[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-22 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just realized that this whole discussion of a false guru is nonsense. Of what purpose are all these criteria? Are these to be used to

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM student blogs

2005-12-22 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctor_gabby_savy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Students launch blogs on campus life What's it like to be a student at Maharishi University? Three students are blogging about it.

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-22 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 22, 2005, at 12:39 PM, braaahmaan wrote: I think the shanks are honored that way. And the Dali Lama who is viewed as an incarnation of Buddha (yes?) No, he is an incarnation of the 13th Dalai Lama but his

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-22 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just realized that this whole discussion of a false guru is nonsense. For you I presume. An analysis of its applicability for your life. Or

[FairfieldLife] True Believers and Fundamentalists

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
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[FairfieldLife] The Levitating Saint

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap7.html Chapter 7 The Levitating Saint AB of a Yogi I saw a yogi remain in the air, several feet above the ground, last night at a group meeting. My friend, Upendra Mohun Chowdhury, spoke impressively. snip I have seen him in remarkable feats. He has

[FairfieldLife] Re: Tsunami was God's revenge for your wicked ways, women told

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: emboldened Islamic hardliners are doing their best to eradicate sin — and women are their prime targets. When adharma prevails, O Krishna, the women of the family become corrupt, and with the corruption of

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Generosity is the giving of your time and talents to help improve the lives of others. I would say MMY passes that test to all but the most cynical observers. It seems that you see no value at all in what he has done. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable and awesomely radical endless pipes, huge papayas gently falling when you are hungry, and ever righteous babes everywhere on the beach. And when there is a tamasic

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Responses interleaved. --- Sal Sunshine wrote: Yes, I am aware of the TMO dogma regarding stress in the atmosphere, as I said. That is why I am asking--do you really believe that stress, as defined in

[FairfieldLife] The Adult category seems to have been removed

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Adult category seems to have been removed

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
On the other hand, FairfieldLife still doesn't show up on a search of groups. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person reporting what someone else has said, with that person *advocating* what they are

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate a person

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
Hey, don't go knocking DC comics now. It might upset the Sea Gods. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When the sea gods pick up a sattvic cosmic vibe, they smile and there is like rad 10-15 ft perfect glassy waves with unbelievable

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 4:41 PM, authfriend wrote: Speaking of silly, I've always thought it's pretty silly to conflate

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---Yeah but the Fundie's have won the battle (not the long term war). Since Carter's Presidency, the Fundies have more or less Shangheid the executive branch of government, with plenty of right-wing big brass Fundies

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated below, you're simply reporting what some else has said even though you state that it seems as good an

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what you stated

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 23, 2005, at 7:04 PM, authfriend wrote

[FairfieldLife] Sadducees -- Pre-Christian Jewish Fundamentalists -- who Opposed Herod

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
http://www.livius.org/he-hg/herodians/herod_the_great02.html The orthodox were not to only ones who came to hate the new king [Herod]. The Sadducees hated him because he had terminated the rule of the old royal house to which many of them were related; their own influence in the Sanhedrin was

[FairfieldLife] Jewish and Christian parallels ot yagyas ?

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
http://www.livius.org/he-hg/herodians/herod_the_great02.html Worse, Augustus [the first Emperor of Rome, who as Octavius when Ceasar was murdered in 44 BCE, ascended to absolute power over the Roman Empire, taking the title of Augustus] ordered and paid the [Jewish]priests of the Temple [on the

[FairfieldLife] Odd Thought -- (Religious) Conflicts of the Future

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
One could make the case that all wars have religion at their basis. yes a crazy man could make that case, you say. Well, that is debate for another day. Let me at least suggest the modest propostion that all wars with religous roots, may someday evolve to the level of spiritual, and not physical

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, Judy, so you don't believe what

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, far better to give at the level of the root, (ie to MMY) For the record, I don't give anything to the TMO or to MMY. than at

[FairfieldLife] Ayur-Vedic Pnacha Karma Vomit-Insult Therapy

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
I know its not pretty to watch folks. But neither are basmis (herbal enemas) -- if your are AV illiterate. But puking out insults is a time honored, classic, vedic way of purifying the nervous system. Also of Comedy Central and SNL. Judy (and to a much lesser degeree Sal) are engaged in AV

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test

2005-12-23 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Maharishi was a target of the CIA This is utter, unproven crap. There is ZERO evidence -- and never

[FairfieldLife] Rick --

2005-12-24 Thread a_non_moose_ff
What's New with Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Photos 2.0 Starting November 21st, we will be upgrading Yahoo! Groups photos. Not all groups will be affected immediately; the changes will take place gradually over a 4-6 week period. Here is what you'll see with the upgrade: Photos Vitality When new

[FairfieldLife] Rick -- Some New Yahoo Features -- May Solve Current Problems

2005-12-24 Thread a_non_moose_ff
What's New with Yahoo! Groups Yahoo! Groups Photos 2.0 Starting November 21st, we will be upgrading Yahoo! Groups photos. Not all groups will be affected immediately; the changes will take place gradually over a 4-6 week period. Here is what you'll see with the upgrade: Photos Vitality When new

[FairfieldLife] Re: Merry Christmas!

2005-12-24 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Rocky, I think. Honest, I just meant simply, Merry Christmas! :-) Yes. All gratitude to your pure heart. Today is a time for celebration, and gratitude. My only point was, so is every day. Your

[FairfieldLife] Re: the false guru test - CIA and TMO

2005-12-27 Thread a_non_moose_ff
Why are you obsessed with Barry? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I still think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Season's Greetings from Interfaith Charities International

2005-12-28 Thread a_non_moose_ff
How can this guy have experiences of realization and not be the least bit aware of his addiction to being a dishonest, pompous, self- important asshole? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-01 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The world's first gay rajas, huh? Why haven't they been crowned? Actually, this is well known in Europe. And further (and BTW, this is known only to a very, very few well-placed people and very hush

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-01 Thread a_non_moose_ff
*cked by the TMO, nature had to respond with a corresponding reality -- of the TMO literally f*cking its devotees. (oh, I just heard that for the poor, a $2000 program is evolving that will involve large dogs, probably german shepards. ) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-01 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, scienceofabundance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And its rumored that the TMO is seeking to make the horse sacrafice yagya as a perpetual event to ensure world peace

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Learn TM from SSRS's Art of Living. Costs $200.00. Puja to Guru Dev, 3-days checking. the same thing. It's how the TM technique was taught in India. Slightly different than other places. But will they accept 30 cents a day

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not the one haranguing people about how they should give up this and that and basically do anything so they can get the $$ to start. I don't believe they should. I don't believe the benefits of TM, whatever

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not the one haranguing people about how

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark Wooow !! Now MMY in Politics

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/3/06 11:24 AM, lupidus108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speculations - right ! You do not even know if Maharishi had a heartatacc Deepak Chopra told the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO has played itself out. With MMY's death it will go poof as everyone grabs for the money. MUM will disappear as nobody will pay

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They are truely pissed and cannot handle the thought that for that price, dozens, possibly hundreds of people, learn TM in India, every time a person learns TM in the US. This REALLY riles the TNB's.

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This REALLY riles the TNB's. OffWorld Ah. Glad to see that you are not riled. And just currious, if long time

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I never give money to the needy. However I do buy food and clothing for them occasionally and give cash to charitable organizations that help the needy such as supplying shelter to the homeless. Because: i) as a conservative

[FairfieldLife] Re: The New Advaitins

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 3, 2006, at 8:19 AM, Peter wrote: Ultimately the only value of one's relationship with a guru is if you become realized through their teaching. Interesting--no mention whatsoever of the importance of having the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, demaris4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In resopnse to the quote below -- are you sure that the TM group myth is the overriding importance of personal enlightenment?? I don't

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 1/3/06 8:30:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I never give money to the needy. However I do buy food and clothing for them occasionally and give cash to charitable

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/3/06 8:50 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People learn TM in India. Many people, I know some of them. I also know people who have learned for free or virtually nothing in 3rd world

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Denmark Wooow !! ( from the black list to heaven)

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are absolutely correct. The overriding belief is and always has been that TMers will transform the world through their practice; personal enlightenment is and always has been secondary.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO has played itself out. With MMY's death it will go poof as everyone grabs for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Was Denmark - Now Strange TB Situation

2006-01-03 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shirleybrahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The TMO has played itself out. With MMY's death it

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM cafe

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on recent discussions, I'm going to start a cafe for TM True Believers in which they pay me $2500 for a membership, and then they get their daily lattes for free for the next two years. Given that many of these

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
This is clearly an idea dreamed up by small minds. Must be by people off the program. You need to think way bigger! Rapid enlightnement and global prosperity will be ensured if all people took advantage of all the Maharishi Technologies for Enlightenment. Full cost is $300,000. Which is only $3 a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM cafe

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on recent discussions, I'm going to start a cafe for TM True Believers in which they pay me $2500 for a membership, and then they get their daily lattes for free for the next two years. Given that many of these

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You would NOT want to visit Uttar Kashi these days. The town is sprawling, polluted, and all that ... Plus it has a curfew, and the 'vibes' are really low. Not the pretty place I visited in 1976 and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharishi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 7:06 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He was also hounded by the local sheriff last time he came, who tried to

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them have been doing it for decades. How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed as fully enlightened?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The TM cafe

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would gladly pay $ 2,500 - but only for coffee with coffeine! God investment. After all I sold my house and used the money in the TMO. Bad Investment! Ingegerd Yes, a little caffeine might make those stooped over

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are any Purusha enlightened? was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 12:19 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharishi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ramana Maharishi's 4 Technologies of Evolution (was: The New Advaitins)

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why didn't he just use the invisibility sidhi? How do you know he didn't? I thought lawyers were fending off the sheriff at the door. Why would that be necessary if he was invisible? Maybe he

[FairfieldLife] Re: What does Purusha practice? was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 4, 2006, at 1:32 PM, Rick Archer wrote: I don't know and I'm sure they wouldn't say. Well, then we need to find a defector. :-) They don't defecate? I know they are supposed to be celibate, but they also take a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are any Purusha enlightened? was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
12:19 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They're living a monastic life, and are really doing it. They meditate for a living. Sponsors support them. Most of them

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick -- Are any Purusha enlightened?

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/4/06 1:11 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of them has Maharishi proclaimed as fully enlightened? The only person I've ever heard him say that about is Tony Nader. Interesting

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rick -- Are any Purusha enlightened?

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
/4/06 3:24 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Though you seem more cautious in your statements today Rick, as I remember, you have spoken in the past of many in FF becoming awakened and many sitting around FF satsangs popping into enlightenment weekly. Yet if Maharishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Are any Purusha enlightened? was: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-04 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi has characterized enlightenment as 24 hours bliss, And that is an interesting definition. Peter says bliss is dumb, which I assume is his experience, so I wonder if that means that, per Maharishi, that

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a center, publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle for me the teacher -

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost of maintaining a center, publicity and other expenses, and a maintainance lifestyle for me the teacher -

[FairfieldLife] Re: Income in Fairfield

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
On Jan 5, 2006, at 11:12 AM, johnlasher20002000 wrote: I thought this might be of interest for anyone considering moving to Fairfield or who would like a relatively hands free type of income while they go on courses or other activities. Retire or relocate to Fairfield Ideal

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
deal of the century. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I taught full time I never saw myself as selling mantras or some such thing, but charging for the cost

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] One could argue (not me particularly) that the value of the product has increased due to the availability of adjunct products that are now available to enhance the core product: AV, SV, GV, jyotish, yagyas, gems, sidhis

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] One could argue (not me particularly) that the value of the product has increased due to the availability of adjunct products that are now available to enhance the core product: AV, SV, GV, jyotish, yagyas, gems, sidhis

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
Looking at the $2500 fee, and the costs involved, it appears resonable for a full time teacher, teaching about 30 students a month or so. Break down the cost allocations: Franchise Fee 50% SV Facilities 10% Office Exp. Support 5% Advertising and PR

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looking at the $2500 fee, and the costs involved, it appears resonable for a full time teacher, teaching about 30 students a month or so. If you want it taught only by volunteers in their (non sv) homes

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 8:27 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Excellent Analyis ! Someone should keep this so that when all the gripers start griping they can be referred to it, then maybe the horse can stop being whipped.

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 8:27 PM, off_world_beings wrote: Excellent Analyis ! Someone should keep this so that when all the gripers start griping they can be referred to it, then maybe the horse can stop being whipped.

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 9:52 PM, Patrick Gillam wrote: Irrelevant to a pre-indictment individual who's considering learning a meditation technique. May be of interest to government officials, though. The real need here

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- off_world_beings posted: REHABILITATION 2004: The Journal of Offender Rehabilitation, http://tinyurl.com/cqrn5

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 5, 2006, at 10:17 PM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: All good. But why dis other paths? Many paths. Certainly. One peak or many peaks, who cares? It's surreal and (non-dumb) blissfull on every peak. All appreciation

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
to TM, Kriya Yoga, and the 13-year old guru. Nowadays, there are many techniques available that give much faster growth than TM and much faster growth than the TM sidhis program. TM is no longer a monopoly. TM is no longer a monopoly. --- a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-05 Thread a_non_moose_ff
I posted the link of my source. I also posted 5 or so examples that supported the 12 x factor. Read the post Luke. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-06 Thread a_non_moose_ff
, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted the link of my source. Okay...I went to the link found at the posting where you made the original claims that you did at... http://www.watsonwyatt.com/europe/pubs/longtermstats/render2.asp? ID=14440 ...and there is NOTHING

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-06 Thread a_non_moose_ff
be appropriate. medical care services from 1968 12.6 College tuition and fees from 1977 8.4 http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/outside.jsp?survey=cu --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of clarifications. The index I originally used

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-06 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes: Big snip The show went on to say that the only sane thing to do with skunks is avoid them,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-06 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TorquiseB writes: Big snip The show went on to say that the only

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-06 Thread a_non_moose_ff
for the US. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A couple of clarifications. The index I originally used was for Europe. Quite relevant for the discussion at hand

[FairfieldLife] French kids catching up to US in terms of obesity

2006-01-06 Thread a_non_moose_ff
uh, oh. Barry may need to move to maintain his ex pat superiority. http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/06/060106181326.a9j53yue.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing

[FairfieldLife] Ego in Enlightenment and Enlightened Ironies

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom T: An old politician who had been a chicken

[FairfieldLife] Re: How can we understand uneven development in teachers?

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6 - Things are not as they seem, nor are they otherwise --a Buddhist Sutra Unless you are Elsewhere.

[FairfieldLife] Ego in Enlightenment and Enlightened Ironies

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom T: An old politician who had been a chicken

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is obvious that Gurudev lived in greater physical comfort as Shankaracharya than he did as a lone Sanyasin wandering around. It is also obvious that *somehow* money flowed into the math at Jyotirmath. Gurudev may have

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20 POINTS - EXPERIENTIAL CRITERIA OF C.C.

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's because, IMO, TM as a method does not work on the level of transformation to uproot vasanas. Vasana-kshaya, the obliteration of

[FairfieldLife] $925 now = $75 then (was Re: TM costs $3.30 a day for 2 years.)

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] There are a number of relevant inflation indexes. Many economiss don't favor the CPI. Other indexes may give different answers

[FairfieldLife] a miraculous, powerful, unfathomable reality

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
Cool article. Nearly 100, LSD's Father Ponders His 'Problem Child' By CRAIG SMITH BURG, Switzerland ALBERT Hofmann, the father of LSD, walked slowly across the small corner office of his modernist home on a grassy Alpine hilltop here, hoping to show a visitor the vista that sweeps before him

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego in Enlightenment and Enlightened Ironies

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis wrote: a_non_moose_ff wrote: My original comments, abve, on Tom's post are part of my periodic laughter at the ironies, paradoxes and/or inconsistencies sxpressed by so-called self-proclaimed enlightened. Tom proclaims

[FairfieldLife] Re: How can we understand uneven development in teachers?

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.tinyurl.com/cmay6

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20 POINTS - EXPERIENTIAL CRITERIA OF C.C.

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This list seems to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ego in Enlightenment and Enlightened Ironies

2006-01-07 Thread a_non_moose_ff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it your belief that an enlightened person

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