--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Dec 5, 2007, at 2:29 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
So could
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, pranamoocher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I've never understood the hostilities expressed on this board by
some of
its members in response to simple topics of personal experiences.
I
really enjoy reading Jim and Rory's ( and others') enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
When I quoted G. Spencer Brown (British mathematician)
in response to the Davies piece, Judy assumed I had
not read the thing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Of the three folks who regularly say that they
are enlightened (or at the very least experiencing
enlightened states of mind, even if they don't call
themselves enlightened) on FFL, during the last
month:
* Jim
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Of the three folks who regularly say that they
are enlightened (or at the very least experiencing
enlightened states of mind, even
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why does a beautifully vivid imagination have to be crushed with
ontological importance? All the talented painters I know have
detailed visions, they just don't try to label it as going to
heaven.
Likewise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
I don't sense any openness to feedback here so
I'll
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, excellent point. I've never seen MMY actually communicate with
anyone. Jim and Rory may well be enlightened, but they don't seem to
have enough self-awareness to notice how they come across. Maybe they
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people
who have stepped up to the plate here on FFL and
made statements about their supposed state of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
Its a comparison of *behaviors* in several people
who have stepped up
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Until the stories are good enough TO deserve
applause, you really can't expect it. But you do.
And you get pissed off and defensive when it
doesn't appear.
That's not enlightenment, dude. That's being a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Nablusos: A couple of fellows are shaking their anti-TM boat
where
it used
to
be so comfy. No wonder they are upset. :-)
jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote:
Unfortunately not upset enough to capsize
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
wrote:
Acid Trip and Jim and Rory [since they both seem to have
missed
the post]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
R: Apparently we are *all* still failing miserably :-)
Yeah. Like I said, arrogant asshole. Perhaps you really think
that
your being an arrogant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip Ergo Maharishi and Guru Dev, Brahmanada Saraswati, have
also failed
to liberate you John, and so they must also be arrogant
assholes??
Certainly not, but what they're doing doesn't include acting like
snip Ok then-- I'll be an arrogant asshole IF, and only IF, you take
responsibility for your failure to achieve liberation. Do we have
a
deal?
You already ARE acting like an arrogant asshole - and my achieving
or not achieving liberation is none of your business.
Uh uh, sorry, the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, there is nothing I can see that isn't part of me. I know
condescension because I have been guilty of it. I know what it
feels like. That we are what we behold is a given. Within that
given, however, there
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You know, if I were enlightened, I would expect that part of my
freedom, part of my meat robot's new world, would be the duty or
privilege of setting folks straight about enlightenment, and if the
folks want to tussle,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every scripture has saints who kill, lie, rape, swindle, etc. in
the cause of upholding the integrity of spirituality itself. Those
who
will not even consider that God exists are the proper targets for
such
low
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not feel offended. Your condescension was never directed at
me, I just happened to notice it and also noticed honest efforts on
the part of others to make you aware of it. So I thought I'd put in
my two
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Jim doesn't want to kill or swindle -- that's a good sign that
he's
not going to spontaneously manifest those dynamics, but, don't kid
yourself, like all of us, he'd kill anyone holding a knife to his
child's throat
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
If
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
Oh, goodie. Story time. Tell us the one again about the
infinitely
radiant Pride. Ot the ones where particlees collide in this big
chamber and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
It would be an interesting thing in my opinion to have
a Meditation Smack-down Match, in which advanced
practitioners of several
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would be an interesting thing in my opinion to have
a Meditation Smack-down Match, in which advanced
practitioners of several techniques sit in a room
together and go for samadhi, each of them hooked up
to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jim: from the perspective of dense waking state, it does sound
ludicrous
doesn't it? I'd stick to material science if I were you.
On a serious note Jim:
If you can understand this you will understand
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL! good one! Yes, enlightenment is one big fantasy, designed
to
make those who have worked so hard to achieve this state feel
good
and disassociate from Reality! Whoo HA! See if you can sell
that
from birth who
gains sight have to learn to see?
Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 26, 2007, at 2:47 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
I doubt that very much Curtis. There are people on this forum that
would and do renounce the reality of enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
Excuse me, Dr. Pete; I mean to say, maybe you have forgotten
what
the
world looks like to those who don't know they are No-one yet?
Questioning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
When you say, actually tickled and stirred Me, don't you mean
with
a particular sensation of bliss? The reason I ask is that I find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Turq's condescension apparently escaped your sensitivity to being
offended-- which leads to an obvious conclusion-- that you are not
offended by comments which no matter how condescending, are in line
with your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, aztjbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
http://www.tinyurl.com/yxewot
WOW! Great find!!! Thank you for sharing this!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The thing about being enlightened that I personally don't like all
that much is that I am surrounded by unenlightened idiots. How
could this have happened? I'm incarnate in a sea of idiots
reflecting all that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Interesting observations-- I don't really get what you mean
when you
say incarnate and experience from the inside out, if need be
(which
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
BTW do you believe that the rapture of Christianity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Nov 26, 2007, at 9:03 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
Dr. Joel Wysong
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel with some of these.
Sal
Encroaching on your territory, are they Sal?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Yes, I am completely lacking in perfect intellignence. You
though
have apparently perfected it! I am also as you say incapable
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
you, or me, if you want to see it that way- just calling you on
your
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
Don't try to lay your moodmaking crap on me buddy. I am not
condemning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
Ahh, but you see, Jim, he *is* condemning *you* -- trying
desperately
to find and prove flaws in you so he won't have to look
up to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nice story.
lol! my stomach hurts!!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
Nice story.
lol! my stomach hurts!!!
RUN!!! FFL has been hijacked by the Goal itself!!!
RUN!!! LOL!!!Enlightenment is here
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my
Master's at
Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after
constant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
I wrote a paper on this very subject while working on my
Master's at
Harvard Divinity School... That was in 1980 or so, right after
constant
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
Yes, nicely put (if I do say so mySelf *lol*); the omnipresent
gold-
light/angels/deities/etc. would be the subjective (and by that I
mean real)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
Oh, goodie. Story time. Tell us the one again about the
infinitely
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
It occurred to me while writing my previous reply that it must
sound
like quite a foreign language to some. Nonetheless to be able to
clarify
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for those who ridicule such dialogues, it occurs to me that if
they find themselves fortunate enough to experience the death of
all
illusion, their previous ridicule might be a somewhat humbling and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
if
they find themselves fortunate enough to experience the death of
all
illusion, their previous ridicule might be a somewhat humbling
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
I remain open to the claim from some folks that they
no longer perceive a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
Here's the honest truth -- some people are offended by
certain words. I use those words from time to time
so that I can identify those people and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques,
condescention, boundaries and elitism. A lesson well learned in the
TMO. Damned if they are not effective!
Its all in your mind, kiddo!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
Same dynamic of separation, exclusivity, specialness, cliques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
I think you forgot the part where they just aren't
evolved enough to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
I think you forgot the part where they just aren't
evolved enough to understand you. But they will be
someday, by which time you'll have evolved to ZC
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
10 - You consider Bevan Morris, John Hagelin and Tony Nader sex
symbols.
9 - You actually believe TM is the fastest boat.
8 - You believe that theoretical quantum physics actually can
explain consciousness and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
10 - You consider Bevan Morris, John Hagelin and Tony Nader
sex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip Certainly a large percentage
of the experiences claimed as enlightenment
by Jim and Rory fall into the category of just
some overwhelming emotion. snip
Wow-- you nailed it Turq! lol
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:
snip Certainly a large percentage
of the experiences claimed as enlightenment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
Yes, exactly. Valuing Hours long samadhi is still just
clinging to another experience...
I don't care what you two clowns argue about
to defend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
I have reached a conclusion on the Hitler conspiracies, I
think it's all caused by fear. Fear that if Hitler wasn't
possessed/in league
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
Yes, exactly. Valuing Hours long samadhi is still just
clinging to another
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103
:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@
wrote:
snip Certainly a large percentage
of the experiences claimed as enlightenment
by Jim and Rory fall into the category
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
j_alexander_stanley@ wrote:
If all you're looking for is stupid human shakti tricks,
then Rory is probably not the one to seek out for a fix.
But, he's
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Angela Mailander wrote:
How can you possibly know what others experience or do not
experience? I understand your point and I agree that
expectation
muddies the waters of meditation,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
R: In THIS context, any tradition, even a practical one is
baloney. We
don't die by acquiring more and more, we die by ourselves,
naked and
Alone.
Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
I don't know about you, but I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
wrote:
snip
Says the selfproclaimed expert Vaj who never even practised
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
As we see from this world's great religions, lifetimes can be
spent deciding what to wear, what color, drape of fabric, what
shoes
to put
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Nov 19, 2007, at 12:14 PM, Angela Mailander wrote:
So, it is possible, and I find I often know what someone else
is
thinking. But there
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams
willytex@ wrote:
Bill wrote:
Vaj mashes together Vedantic, Tantric and Dzogchen concepts
to critique TM but without giving due reference to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
richardhughes103@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
But there are literally millions of TMers.
Would anyone like to guess how many people practice TM in
the world? I think we
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
---I don't get it. In reply to the statement that if people waste
their lives watching the NFL and drinking beer, Rory said This
could
be just what the doctor ordered. Sounds like somebody wants to
have
it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Nov 19, 2007, at 11:01 AM, do.rflex wrote:
I go by *experience*, not TMO propaganda.
TM instruction is TMO propaganda. You cannot be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
Then you failed in your job. You should have been taking a
bunch of
us to Valhalla.
Only when we're truly dead.
Many of us
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
Laya-yoga. Laya-yoga is a path that had died centuries ago
according
to several Hindu yogins I've known, but has been re-written about
since the British colonial era. Now that it has been written
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
snip... the distinction between sattva and
purusha, or judging it's a really, really *good* movie vs.
actually
freeing oneself from belief in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip Same thing in a *legitimate* teacher or being who is
having *legitimate* subjective experiences of higher
states of consciousness, in my opinion. In the moment,
the subjective experience they are having of Unity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote:
(P.S. It looks as though you've apparently chosen yet again
to ignore the main point of the post: the distinction between
sattva and purusha, or
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff rorygoff@
wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Flanegin 40 posts for the week. Cool it bro'.
Done.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Snip And it's all because of the bottom-line marketing
approach used by Maharishi since Day One, that TM
is the best.
That is *so* much the *foundation* of everything TM
that anything that challenges this idea just
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Jim is really an example of 'enlightenment' it shows me that
'enlightened' people can still be sycophantic, biased, amoral
colossal
assholes.
And it shows me John that you are full of condemnation and judgment.
He
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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snip Isn't the whole premise of Maharishi's vision
that TM is supposed to lead to enlightened
behavior?
Never heard that one.
That it's supposed to enable its
long-time followers to act in accord with the
laws of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@
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snip Isn't the whole premise of Maharishi's vision
that TM is supposed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 13, 2007, at 5:28 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
Barry is talking about the larger situation, not
Chopra in particular, and Judy knows it.
In fact, that's why she's trying to *distract*
from the larger situation, and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@
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If Jim is really an example of 'enlightenment' it shows me that
'enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin
jflanegi@
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@
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I detest that expression enlightened behavior because it
attempts
to signify a state which is all about eternal, universal
immortal
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
It's more than a premise IMO. Hang around enough saints and you
begin
to recognize a spontaneous quality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:17 PM, jim_flanegin wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Nov 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote:
On Nov 13, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Rory Goff wrote:
Speaking of editing, perhaps you missed the editor's gentle
hint the
first time around: the
Not as a general statement of favorable conditions, but as an
absolute, yes.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
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Well, put like that, doesn't the notion of best possible
incarnation on this planet lose its meaning?
jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then my original question about your obligations as a favored
white dude still stands. But, maybe, in America the ancient European
tradition of noblesse oblige has lost its relevance. Too
bad. I'm in a good
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@
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[snip]
Rubbish. This Chopra fellow was kicked out because of
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