[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and the Revival of Knowledge

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > > > If Guru Dev had lived and saw what a mockery Marshy > > > made of what Guru Dev taught

[FairfieldLife] Endgame for local realism!

2013-05-26 Thread card
Although most scientists do not expect any surprises and believe that quantum physics will prevail over local realism, it is still conceivable that different loopholes are exploited in different experiments. It is this last piece in the history of Bell tests which is still missing -- a final an

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Jason
These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. How much interest you should show in other people's private lives is a matter of debate. As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the phenomenon exists in all fields and 'all walks of life'. In business, in sports, in the mo

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Hi Share, Barry said something in his reply to you that is pretty confused, > and I wanted to clear it up. He states that he has, had long flashes or > periods of enlightenment. Wow, what a mess. > > Just so you know, he is t

[FairfieldLife] "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
One of my favorite quotes about the curious nature of religion and the pursuit of the "spiritual" is: "You know you've created God in your own image when he hates the same people you do." This quote has been attributed to several people, from Anne Lamott to Gordon Charrick to everybody *except*

[FairfieldLife] Speaking of Amma...

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Jackson
Sounds way too good to be true. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/26/business/ammas-multifaceted-empire-built-on-hugs.html?pagewanted=1&hpw

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > How much interest you should show in other people's private > lives is a matter of debate. > > As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the > phenomenon exists in all

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Jackson
Very well said Barry. From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Jason
> > --- "Jason" wrote: > > > > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > > How much interest you should show in other people's private > > lives is a matter of debate. > > > > As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the > > phenomenon exists in all fields and 'a

[FairfieldLife] Well, hrasva or diirgha: who f-ing cares!?

2013-05-26 Thread card
In substandard transliteration of Sanskrit, the difference between short (hrasva, e.g: a, i, u) and long (diirgha, e.g: aa, ii, uu) is almost always, (actually, by definition?) ignored, so to speak. There are several ways to indicate the long vowels, for instance A, I, U; aa, ii, uu; (favored by

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
Its funny, dude. I am writing about direct experience wrt Barry, and when I do, you quote me chapter and verse out of some metaphysical playbook. Which is a little too conceptual for my taste. If you doubt what I said about Barry never having experienced enlightenment, and why, why not ask Barry

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
What ARE you talking about? Its a one man dialogue of a man chasing his own demons. Thanks for the insight - hope you get some help. Why you persist in bringing up others who never post here, is pretty delusional, Barry. The other thing I should let you know, is that by continuing to narrow you

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
The other element of your expression that I find very strange for a person of your age, is this equating any action that doesn't support yours, as "hateful" towards you. That is both immature and narcissistic of you, Barry. Mature adults often disagree to the core about stuff, but there is no ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
turq, in spite of being pronounced such and in spite of certain experiences, I don't think of myself as enlightened, nor do I worry about it for now or the future, nor do I lack experiences of deep delight in life as it is and welcoming that for others and if possible, helping other have that. 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev and the Revival of Knowledge

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
"The world is a crappy place" - Barry Wright "The world is as you are" - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > How much interest you should show in other people's private > lives is a matter of debate. > > As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the > phenomenon exists i

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > One of my favorite quotes about the curious nature of > religion and the pursuit of the "spiritual" is: "You > know you've created God in your own image when he > hates the same people you do." > > This quote has been attributed to

[FairfieldLife] XXX John Hagelin, Ph.D., was Rick Archer's spiritual discussion

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
Jason: > Well, what you say is true, power differentials play > a role. The problem is determining the intentions of > either party is difficult in these situations... > What I find so strange is that it's the FFL anonymous informants who are posting the slander. Who are they and who is payi

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" jedi_spock@ wrote: > > > > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > > How much interest you should show in other people's private > > lives is a matter of debate. > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > > How much interest you should show in other people's private > > lives is a matter of debate. > > > > As Barry pointed out, 'Groupie with standards', the > > phenomenon exists in all fields and 'all walks of life'. In > > bus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
Thanks, Doc, but I'm can't agree with you.  I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time.  OTOH, it's simply fun to talk about all this.  I'm happy for people who are enlightened and sometimes I like them.  I'm

[FairfieldLife] Parts Unknown

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
I've mentioned the other forum I participate in from time to time, composed of (now) old folks who spent their youth together growing up in Morocco. One of them mentioned the other day a TV show that I managed to track down on the Pirate Net and just finished watching, and I highly recommend it to

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
turq, you've said that Lenz could levitate and fill a room with gold light.  I'm trying to reconcile that with what you say here about his sexual abuse of women.  How do you understand this seeming contradiction?  I remember once before when I asked a similar question, you said that you think, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Jason" wrote: > > > > --- "Jason" wrote: > > > > > > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > > > How much interest you should show in other people's private > > > lives is a matter of debate. > > > > > > As Barry pointed out, 'Gro

[FairfieldLife] MMY's enablers, was Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
mjackson74: > Very well said Barry. > Are you serious? Barry was MMY's and Rama's biggest enabler. Apparently Barry spent decades putting up posters to lure young students to free lectures and seminars for these shysters. But, you must be really dumb to join a cult led by a giggling Hindu

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > turq, you've said that Lenz could levitate and fill > a room with gold light. I'm trying to reconcile that > with what you say here about his sexual abuse of women. He could -- and did -- do both. Your problem is called cognitive di

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Carol
Excellent post Barry. Yet, I too see your hypocrisy on this board. No, you don't sexually abuse others, but you point out their faults and name call and deem some of us unworthy to communicate with and (at least in may case) have made false accusations. Instead of directly addressing those you

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > turq, you've said that Lenz could levitate and fill > > a room with gold light. I'm trying to reconcile that > > with what you say here about his sexual abuse of > > women... > > turquoiseb: > He could -- and did -- do both... > In fact, Lenz was awesome as a fakir! But, of course MMY and Ram

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Carol
I just wrote something in my journal last night: "I don't understand how [name excluded] could do what [s/he] did." Then... "Well, I don't understand it in my heart. But in my head the explanation is that [name excluded] is a sociopath." These Jekyll and Hyde type people who charm and then harm

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Carol
I partly agree Ann. The point where I disagree is when power differentials are at play and if the person holding the position of power ab-uses their position of trust to their advantage. This of course happens in other areas besides sexual. What makes it worse is when any harms that are exacted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
Carol, I agree that there are sociopaths.  I even think there are truly evil people.  I think these people should be locked up and rehabilitated if possible.  If not possible, then I think they should be kept locked up.  I think their victims should be helped in healing the trauma.  I like to

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread feste37
Many people who get abused are weak, and it is their weakness that attracts the abuse. The abuser instinctively smells out weakness, and it incites his cruelty. You can blame the abuser if you want, but it always takes two: one who asks to be abused, and the other who obliges. If you want to a

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
Share Long: > Was Lenz abusing women even at the beginning > of his teaching career? > Lenz's guru was an Indian guy named Chinmoy Kumar Ghose, who has been accused of the same thing. 'Cartwheels in a Sari: A Memoir of Growing Up Cult' by Jayanti Tamm Lenz got kicked out of Chinmoy's cul

[FairfieldLife] FFL Women Abusers, was John Hagelin, was BatGap Discussion

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
Carol: > Yet, I too see your hypocrisy on this board... > So, it looks like you're thinking that Barry has been abusing some of the women on this list? Where would Barry have learned this behavior? Go figure. > > > These kind of sexual relationships are a bit of a gray area. > > > How much

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Carol
I agree Feste...except for maybe the word "weak." And I'm glad you noted "many" and not "all." Perhaps "ignorant" would be a more agreeable term than "weak" for me. Some folks endure horrible circumstances. I think they'd have to be strong to endure what they do. And then maybe they are ignoran

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
Carol, I like to use the word undeveloped because both weak and ignorant have such negative connotations whereas undeveloped does not.  Immature also has negative connotations.  Anyway, I think we're all undeveloped to some extent and in some areas of life.  And I think we're all able to develop

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Its funny, dude. I am writing about direct experience wrt Barry, and when I > do, you quote me chapter and verse out of some metaphysical playbook. Which > is a little too conceptual for my taste. If you doubt what I said about B

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > Its funny, dude. I am writing about direct experience wrt Barry, and when I > do, you quote me chapter and verse out of some metaphysical playbook. Which > is a little too conceptual for my taste. If you doubt what I said about B

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > Since you feel you have nailed Barry, what about Maharishi? > Was Maharishi enlightened or not? What is your take on that? You didn't ask me, but because this is shaping up as another Get Barry Sunday :-), I might as we

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D

2013-05-26 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > I hate these Jezebels... > > turquoisb: > No one can "avoid" such situations, but they can > certainly handle them more gracefully than many > spiritual leaders have... > Don't you just hate those women Jezebels! Yeah, 'gracefully' like you've treated some of the women on FFL and like you

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > Since you feel you have nailed Barry, what about Maharishi? > > Was Maharishi enlightened or not? What is your take on that? > > You didn't ask me, but

[FairfieldLife] The Lazarus Effect, and The Lord Howe Island stick insect

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
The Lord Howe stick insect is huge, up to six inches in length, and weighing nearly an ounce. In 1918, a ship ran aground on Lord Howe Island, the only island where these insects had ever been found. The wreck released rats, that within two years, ate all the insects. They were thought to be ex

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
Please explain "enlightenment", Barry. All I am hearing is that you get some kind of drugged radiation effect from being near someone, and you then consider them enlightened. I am also without thoughts when sleeping. Coincidentally, it is next to my wife. Should I then conclude, due to her pro

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Ri

2013-05-26 Thread feste37
"Weak" is the correct term. "Ignorant" in this context makes no sense, and "undeveloped" is just a euphemism. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Carol, I like to use the word undeveloped because both weak and ignorant have > such negative connotations whereas undevelo

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) > Anyway, I'm just rapping about this in the hope that > the NEXT time someone here claims to "know" what another > person in the public eye (like Lindsay Lohan or George > W. Bush or Obama or whoever) or on this forum (like the > "kn

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > Its funny, dude. I am writing about direct experience wrt Barry, and when I > > do, you quote me chapter and verse out of some metaphysical playbook.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL Women Abusers, was John Hagelin, was BatGap Discussion

2013-05-26 Thread Carol
Well, I think the women on this forum are strong women and it would be rare that they would succumb to abuse. As far as Barry, I don't view him as an abuser. But he comes across as a hypocrite, from my interactions with him on this forum and from the bit I've read, But maybe that is just his 2-

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > Many people who get abused are weak, and it is their weakness > that attracts the abuse. The abuser instinctively smells out > weakness, and it incites his cruelty. You can blame the abuser > if you want, but it always takes two: one who

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > > > > Since you feel you have nailed Barry, what about Maharishi? > > > W

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
"I think there is a stage of enlightenment wherein one realizes that one is indeed the small self and the Big Self at the same time." Hi Share, How is one both, at the same time, AND enlightened? Is it like the Planter's jingle, "Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't!"?? Seriously

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Carol
Well stated Judy. I was thinking of weakness in the sense of a character flaw when Feste initially posted. People do what they need to do to survive. I don't think of that as weakness. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup

Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY's enablers, was Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Jackson
I admire Barry and Curtis and Sal and Edg etc etc because they had the good sense to leave the fold so to speak. I think Richard you are using this as another way to take pot shots at Barry and by extension me and the rest of the people who don't care for TM and TMO-ness. You aren't dealing wi

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Jackson
Tell that to the 10 and  12 year old boys who were being sodomized by Jerry Sandusky. Weak indeed. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 11:58 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, P

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Many people who get abused are weak, and it is their weakness > > that attracts the abuse. The abuser instinctively smells out > > weakness, and it incites his cruelty.

[FairfieldLife] Neuroplasticity and the Unified Field

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
The Unified Field has made the senses turn outwards, Humans therefore look outwards, Not in to themselves, But occasionally a daring soul, Desiring un- boundedness, Has looked back And found Itself. -The Upanishads

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Its funny, dude. I am writing about direct experience wrt Barry, and when > > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D., Igor Kufayev, and Mark McCooey. Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Michael Jackson
can you understand that it is not a normal situation when one person is a faculty member and the other is one of his or her students. Some institutions of higher learning frown upon that situation to the degree that if caught at it, even a tenured faculty member can lose their position - MUM doe

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin's private sex life, was Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > In scandal control, > The New TM Org Standing Committee of TM that is representing and in control > of Transcendental Meditation since the passing of Maharishi has missed every > opportunity to come out saying "no we are not that, we are t

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > > wrote: > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin's private sex life, was Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
> > > > In scandal control, > > The New TM Org Standing Committee of TM that is representing and in control > > of Transcendental Meditation since the passing of Maharishi has missed > > every opportunity to come out saying "no we are not that, we are this..." > > The escapades of Girish Va

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin's private sex life, was Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
> > > > > > > In scandal control, > > > The New TM Org Standing Committee of TM that is representing and in > > > control of Transcendental Meditation since the passing of Maharishi has > > > missed every opportunity to come out saying "no we are not that, we are > > > this..." The escapad

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi John Hagelin, Ph.D

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Richard J. Williams" wrote: (snip) > Yeah, 'gracefully' like you've treated some of the > women on FFL and like you treated Delia on Usenet. Nobody treats Delia. Delia treats *you*.

[FairfieldLife] Re: BatGap Panel Discussi JohnHagelin, Ph.D.

2013-05-26 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Tell that to the 10 and  12 year old boys who were being sodomized by Jerry > Sandusky. Weak indeed. > M.J., no one will argue that boys who didn't resist Sandusky were weak. Clearly, Sandusky was a criminal pedophile. I think

[FairfieldLife] I was wrong

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
The French obviously like lesbians better than they like incomprehensibly hallucinogenic movies about violence ("Only God Forgives"). It probably is a good film, but I'd also suspect that the timing, coinciding with France *finally* legalizing same-sex marriage, may have had something to do with

[FairfieldLife] Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Bhairitu
I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it looked like you were still "seeking" an answer and had not "found" it in TM. IOW, bad PR. It's not unusual in India if a certain path or teacher doesn't work out that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it > looked like you were still "seeking" an answer and had not > "found" it in TM. IOW, bad PR. It's not unusu

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > Its funny, dude. I am writing about direct experience wrt Barry, an

[FairfieldLife] Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment [was Re: Free Man In Paris, v3.01]

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
A shovel is useful enough for me, to avoid wondering who invented it. I am sure you get my drift. The only way Maharishi's enlightenment would matter to me, is if my experiences were not according to what he said about it. No questions, no problem. I like what you said about picking MMY's outl

[FairfieldLife] Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.

2013-05-26 Thread Bhairitu
Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html But don't worry, super heroes will save the day: http://gf2045.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
Judy there's no opie at all as regards my talking about karmic burn.  As Maharishi explains in SofB and AofL something can be happening to us as the result of karma from actions we did in a previous life.  For example, it was from the perspective of a previous life that I could understan

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Judy there's no opie at all as regards my talking about > karmic burn. Barry's ooopsie, not yours, Share. > As Maharishi explains in SofB and AofL something can be happening > to us as the result of karma from actions we did

[FairfieldLife] Apple is winning handily??

2013-05-26 Thread card
Apple may or may not do well in the future but right now, and contrary to popular belief, they are winning the smartphone wars and winning them handily. RATIO OF PROFITS TO MARKET SHARE 3.12% Apple 1.30% Samsung 0.41% All Android Not only is market share not the best way to evaluate the rela

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it > > looked like you were still "seeking" a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: (snip) > Though (spiritual) seeking can go away, there is no end to > finding, even if you run out of places to look. For me Turq > was the most helpful, even if he did not intend to be. > Others might be aghast at that, for e

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread John
Hey Barry, Is this your Sunday sermon? I wonder how many people here are saying, "Amen". Oh, you forgot to mention the karma that Angelina Jolie is going through. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > One of my favorite quotes about the curious nature of > religion an

[FairfieldLife] Kiran Ahluwalia & Tinariwen "Mustt Mustt"

2013-05-26 Thread nablusoss1008
For the lovers of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U4hxfr5MZI

[FairfieldLife] Yoga Sutra, Part 3, verse 37

2013-05-26 Thread John
"Through that spiritual perception, the yogi acquires the divine faculties of hearing, touch, vision, taste and smell. He can even generate these divine emanations by his own will". BKS Iyengar commented that "When the limitations of the mind are removed, the yogi contacts the very core of hi

[FairfieldLife] Re: "Knowing" the Laws Of Nature

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Hey Barry, > > Is this your Sunday sermon? I wonder how many people here > are saying, "Amen". Oh, you forgot to mention the karma > that Angelina Jolie is going through. Looking over the quote of Barry's post in your post, John, I noti

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread sparaig
I never heard anything about him saying that simple meditators were to avoid seeking other paths, only that it was bad form for the TM teachers to be seen that way. Telling rank-and-file meditators what to do certainly crosses into the territory of religion, and he was usually pretty careful ab

[FairfieldLife] Bullshit Enlightenment [Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment]

2013-05-26 Thread emptybill
Aufklärung –Clearing Up. There is no thing as "enlightenment" - as that term is used here o FFL. There has never been an "enlightenment" - whether discovered, realized or attained. That includes immediate insights or gradual understandings. There was only Aufklärung – Clearing Up. Enlightenment?

[FairfieldLife] Liberace's Jyotish Chart

2013-05-26 Thread John
He was born under the sign of Sagittarius and the Moon was in the nakshatra of Jyestha. Rahu and the Moon were in debilitation in Scorpio and placed in the 12th house which made him gay. But he never revealed publicly that he was one.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Share Long
Answering questions of the no longer defunct Hostess Twinkie is like maybe being on a roller coaster, sugar high followed inevitably by sugar low. From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:30 PM Subject: [Fai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > He was born under the sign of Sagittarius and the Moon was in > the nakshatra of Jyestha. > > Rahu and the Moon were in debilitation in Scorpio and placed > in the 12th house which made him gay. But he never revealed > publicly that he was

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said that TM'ers (both practitioners > > and teachers) shouldn't be looking at other paths because it > > looked like you were still "seeking"

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullshit Enlightenment [Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment]

2013-05-26 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > Aufklärung –Clearing Up. > > There is no thing as "enlightenment" - as that term is used here > o FFL. There has never been an "enlightenment" - whether > discovered, realized or attained. That includes immediate insights or > grad

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Mon 27-May-13 00:15:04 UTC

2013-05-26 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/25/13 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 06/01/13 00:00:00 201 messages as of (UTC) 05/26/13 23:55:50 27 Michael Jackson 18 doctordumbass 18 Richard J. Williams 16 authfriend 15 turquoiseb 14 Share Long 11 Xenophaneros Anartax

[FairfieldLife] Re: Arctic melting? Don't worry Avatars will save the world.

2013-05-26 Thread Susan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Arctic temperatures are rising fast than expected: > http://arctic-news.blogspot.nl/2013/03/huge-patches-of-warm-air-over-the-arctic.html These climate changes and what will happen to earth and people is my major non-people related worr

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart

2013-05-26 Thread Mike Dixon
He had to keep it hidden? Oh please, LOL. From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:55 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart   --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > He was born under the sign of Sagittarius a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullshit Enlightenment [Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment]

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
Thanks RD. Yeah, it is not a concept, or a transition. It is a viable, and permanent way of functioning. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote: > > > > > > Aufklärung –Clearing Up. > > > > There is no thing

[FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > He had to keep it hidden? Oh please, LOL. Excuse me?? It's not funny at all. What's your problem? > From: authfriend > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:55 PM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Seekers and Finders

2013-05-26 Thread doctordumbass
"Seeking is worthless. The world is full of people faking enlightenment." - Barry Wright "The world is as you are" - Maharishi Mahesh Yogi --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > I recall that Maharishi once said

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart

2013-05-26 Thread Mike Dixon
Oh Geez Judy, not Liberace, the idea  that he was hiding anything? From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart   --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > He had to k

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bullshit Enlightenment [Barry HAS NEVER experienced enlightenment]

2013-05-26 Thread emptybill
Mental silence is the opposite of relentless internal dialogue. However, without the use of internalizing conceptuality, we would be left to grunt our emotions in a quasi-verbal language. Mentation and language co-inhere in human experience, as does the silence with underlies it. Awareness witnes

[FairfieldLife] Re: Liberace's Jyotish Chart

2013-05-26 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > Oh Geez Judy, not Liberace, the idea that he was hiding anything? Remember who his primary audience was, middle-aged and elderly ladies. To them, he was a sex symbol. They'd have been scandalized and horrified if they'd known he was gay.

[FairfieldLife] Re: John Hagelin's private sex life, was Moderated by Rick Archer

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
Bevan did give a really excellent "charge" to the graduating students from MUM at their commencement here in Fairfield this weekend. Everyone should read it. It is one of the best current statements of what we are about as a revolutionary movement community. It was short, comprehensive and a

[FairfieldLife] FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. -Buck in the Dome Someone sent me this... FW: [paste] As you all know by now, Amma is coming to Cedar Rapids Iowa for 2 days of programs on June 25th and 26th. For those of us who have met Amma before this is a very spec

[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: A Living Saint Coming to Iowa

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
> > This is not going to be good for Fairfield Dome Badges or the Dome numbers. > -Buck in the Dome > Like, I am torn between Guru Dev who unequivocally told people to seek the company of saints and then Maharishi who variously told people to sit with saints and wise people, and then Bevan and

[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Dome Meditation Meeting with Fairfield, Iowa Mayor Ed Malloy

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
FFL Lurkers do note: This is an incredibly important week for Fairfield,Iowa, the Fairfield mediating community, and the Dome meditation numbers with the failure of the Dome numbers to reach critical mass.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fairfield Dome Meditation Meeting with Fairfield, Iowa Mayor Ed Malloy

2013-05-26 Thread Buck
> > FFL Lurkers do note: This is an incredibly important week for Fairfield,Iowa, > the Fairfield mediating community, and the Dome meditation numbers with the > failure of the Dome numbers to reach critical mass. > The meditator Fairfield,Iowa TSR community meeting is at Dalby Hall in the Mah

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