I can't figure it out--I keep getting dropped by either
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's
driving me crazy! Anyone have a clue?
Thank you!
Tee 'n' the Wildlife
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oh, my Lord! Poor both of you! How awful not to know! And your
baby is away in ER Loving thoughts from me 'n' the kitties to you
and little Caroline.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 27, 2007, at 6:14 AM, Kelley Saveika wrote:
Well, I just got off the phone with them.
I do that too. Those heavy litter bags really keep the ooky smell
from wafting around, yuck!
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 27, 2007, at 9:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wow didn't think this subject would last this long.
Anyway, I recycle my plastic bags. I dump dirty
Poor abandoned ones--and so very tiny, too. What must their mamacat
think? She must be so frightened for her babies. You were in the
right place at the right time, that's for sure! Those little ones
have a new mommy and daddy to love them--and all those brothers and
sisters, too!
This used to happen to me when I used aol...haven't had any problems since I
changed to gmail.
elizabeth
On 5/28/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't figure it out--I keep getting dropped by either
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org or [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's
driving me
I raised three little foundlings--The 3 Orange Boyz--and they tested
FeLV-. Then at nine months one of them, Sammy, tested not only FeLV+
but with mediastinal lymphoma. He is now in the Wisconsin/Madison
chemotherapy protocol and is doing just wonderfully and after four
treatments he is
Hmmm. I use Earthlink. H. Thanks!
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 2:08 AM, elizabeth trent wrote:
This used to happen to me when I used aol...haven't had any
problems since I changed to gmail.
elizabeth
On 5/28/07, Taylor Scobie Humphrey [EMAIL
Adding baking soda to the bags helps with the odor too.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who
Cassandra you and Kisa are in my thoughts and prayers.
Does the anxiety and sadness ever go away? I feel as though
I am still in shock with the diagnosis. I feel I am back to the place
I was when my 19 year old (NoNo) was failing and I would wake up every
few hours to make sure she was ok. The
First you need to verbalize your fears and concerns, not keep them inside
and this group is very good at listening and being non-judgmental.
No, you don't get over itat least I don't. But, hopefully, you get
to the point that you don't let the future ruin the present. None of us
For diarrhea, generally my regular vets approach is to start with
Flagyl and high-fiber food.
Gloria
On Sep 17, 2006, at 7:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oy vey, diagnosis is invasive, generally, and thus Lucy never has
had a proper one. To actually diagnose, they need to do an
Kelly,
When Spud was treated, the vet never said anything
about transmission to us. Actually, She wasn't
certain that is what he had, she just saw some funky
cells on a smear that looked like it. We figured that
we didn't have anything to lose by treating him with
the HCT so low, and the blood
No, her eyes are not reactive at all.
I don't think she can close her eyes. I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point past the first seizure.
I do not know what happens when she is sleeping, though. I will ask
when I go in to see her after work.
I'm wondering if she is
One of my cats has seizures and it took me months to get them under control and
it never caused her to go blind.
Sheryl
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, her eyes are not reactive at all.
I don't think she can close her eyes. I did not see her close her
eyes or blink at any point
She hasn't actually had a seizure in almost 48 hours. I think the
reason she is still there is all this neurological abnormality. Her
temp is normal, she is well hydrated due to IV fluids. She had a
bowel movement, it was normal. She's being syringe fed. She's just
not neurologically
Jane,
I am new to all of this as well...My friend and I rescued a mom and 6 kittens
and the mom ended up being FeLV +. We were told to put them all to sleep but I
could not do it...I am the softee of the 2 of us. I wanted to know more before
making a decision since so many of my pets have
It's early and I may have missed something but WHY does the vet think IBD?
Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For diarrhea, generally my regular vets approach is to start with Flagyl and
high-fiber food.
Gloria
On Sep 17, 2006, at 7:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am wondering too if she is blind. I don't know of seizures can cause
that but whatever neurological thing that caused the seizures might
have. The other problem is that if she cannot blink or close her eyes
then she cannot lubricate the surface of the eye the vets MUST give
her drops!
I just got off the phone with them. She is now sleeping with her eyes
closed. So she can close them, she just doesn't have the reflex that
lets her know if someone is going to poke her in the eye that she
should close them.
On 5/28/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am wondering too if
Ok, glad she can close them. But she COULD be blind. That would account
for the non-response.
Kelley Saveika wrote:
I just got off the phone with them. She is now sleeping with her eyes
closed. So she can close them, she just doesn't have the reflex that
lets her know if someone is going to
Jane,
I'm not a vet, but my sense is that boosting the immune system will
help with the stomatitis. I'm using Liquid DMG and Transfer Factor on
my cat. My homeopathic vet, like yours, tends to feel good about the
use of DMG. Vetri-Science also makes a Maitake-DMG Liquid, which
contains
This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed what I
thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove as a
stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood ready -- and put the
frying pan upside down in the dish drainer. Someone had peed in the
you mean you don't do that already?
On 5/28/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I removed
what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I use the stove
as a stagingt area to get all the plates of canned catfood
No. They have me so well trained that I usually feed EVERYONE and will often
clean all the boxes first thing, before I pour a cup of coffee for myself. I
even clean the bathroom litterbox before stepping into the shower on a workday
morning.
They have me so well trained that, when I buy
No. They have me so well trained that I usually feed EVERYONE and will often
clean all the boxes first thing, before I pour a cup of coffee for myself. I
even clean the bathroom litterbox before stepping into the shower on a workday
morning.
They have me so well trained that, when I buy
Sigh. I just got through battling with my pee entrenched dryer again.
Nothing seems to be helping, I feel your pain sister.
Nina
Susan Hoffman wrote:
This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I
removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop -- I
use the
I at least try to put the coffee on before starting my morning chores.
You folks probably remember my Spencer... I had been missing him and
made a comment that I even missed his voracious appetite and how he
wouldn't allow me to dish anyone's food in peace. Just another example
of 'be
And there was the time that Trixie got my roommate's toaster
It was late at night. I was lyinjg in bed reading, pinned in place by cats
on either side. I smell what smells like a skunk. So I assume we have a skunk
in the yard. Not the first time. No big deal. I think nothing of
At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just withdrawn
my long time support of Best Friends because of something similar, I
have been member and volunteer with them for almost 10 years.
they have grown which is good.
Well on their prayers and
Well that just wiped the smile from my face. I was not privy to the
exchange and have never been to any of the Best Friends forums, but I'm
assuming that their motive in removing any chastising responses was in
keeping with an overall effort to maintain the site as a safe place to
express
hee hee hee all my cats are off packing their bags to move to
catifurrnia
On 5/28/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No. They have me so well trained that I usually feed EVERYONE and will
often clean all the boxes first thing, before I pour a cup of coffee for
myself. I even
oh, heavens. i REALLY needed this post right now! (and really really glad i
don't eat much toast.)
On 5/28/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And there was the time that Trixie got my roommate's toaster
It was late at night. I was lyinjg in bed reading, pinned in place by
cats on
A friend killed a 17 year old cat (?) he rescued when he was in college
because he had a new wife, new stepdaughter, new house + and the cat was
peeing on the carpet. I went home and tore up all the carpet. The only
saving grace is that Gus would not have had almost 17 years of care had my
Dixie has this and has lost a couple of front teeth. The Brush Away + good
diet+supplements seem to help. She doesn't appear to be in any pain and
this has gone on for about 2 years.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
At 01:51 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
Sorry Nina, I am not that generous right now. I do understand your
point and I am usually calm and quitely willing to educate..But there
was no attempt at educating..This has unfortunately not been the
first issue and as I said i guess I am more in tune
I'd probably saved myself a lot of money during this
move if I'd divided the ones who pee on
things...actually ANYTHING...with the ones who don't.
Nina, at least you were smart enough to look in the
frying pan. I didn't, and threw the butter and eggs
in there. How stupid can one be. Ane then
The toaster oven is NOT safe UNLESS you remember to ALWAYS close the
door! My Sunset became annoyed when I went out of town overnight she
peed into the toaster oven. I didn't suspect a thing until I tried to
toast an English muffin. The stench was horrible! So do NOT assume that
toaster
At 04:31 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
I purchased a fireplace screen at a yard sale for Cat House on the
Kings...I may be able to protect my space heater in the
fall..then again I may not
Kelly
The toaster oven is NOT safe UNLESS you remember to ALWAYS close the
door! My Sunset became
I visited Kisa three times at the vet today, and she's going to be spending
another night there. They're keeping her on the IV. They also put in a
feeding tube through her nose, so she's got that taped to the top of her head,
and a cone around her neck. She seems a little more alert, but she
At 04:41 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
I am so sorry you are both going through this. this is what we all
face, thank goodness for wach other. I am sure Kisa was glad to have
you visit and she must be feeling better not to be so dehydrated.
Those are good things, I am probably way off base but
Oh, we always close the door. Same with the microwave. We close doors on
toaster ovens and microwaves to protect the food that we've hidden from the
cats.
My mother was punished this morning for not getting up and cleaning
litterboxes quickly enough. She awoke to the smell of poop.
i get such a kick out of the experts who say that cats don't do this on
purpose, or don't hold grudges. have they never LIVED with them?? the
little beasts know EXACTLY what they're doing, i'm convinced of it! and,
yes, are giggling behind their paws as we discover their gifts and
surprises!
The problems in my little family started on March 9 when I took my poor
anemic Tomi to the vet and found out he had FeLV. The next day, I hauled my
4 other cats to the vet and found out Kisa (2.5 years old, the same as Tomi)
also tested positive. I realize now that I was living in a nice
Oh I know they do it on purpose. One of my cats left a nice brown present for
me right on my pillow the day we took Tomi in. She never did that before or
since.
Cassandra
- Original Message -
From: MaryChristine
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007
Dear Jane,
Just remember how thrilled you were at little MeMe the mite as a baby
and you'll begin to forget that sadness and shock of the FeLV+
diagnosis. Because, remember, MeMe is the very same, no different
than before her diagnosis. And she never wanted to come into your
life to
Animal Communicator is a good idea. MartaWilliams.com told me about
Mamie and how she came to be found alone at that golf course in
Michigan.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 8:37 AM, Marylyn wrote:
First you need to verbalize your fears and concerns, not keep
At 06:33 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
It is so blank blank hard.
I do my best to remember that it is the quality not quantity, For
they are truly blessed they do count the days or months...they
love the belly rubs and snuggles and just enjoy each moment.
We need to learn from them.
My little
They definitely know what they are doing. I've used Feliway to calm cats and
an alternative vet recommends Cat Nap and various flower essences including
Rescue Remedy. Feliway is supposed to help with peeing problemsI've
never had to use it for that (Thank God and all the Angels) but
If her eyes are open and she is not blinking at all she needs
eyedrops so her cornea does not dry out. If she is drugged up enough
to stop the seizures that may cause her to be so dopey that she
doesn't blink nearly as often. When I went to visit The 3 Orange
Boyz at the vet's right
If you lightly tap the nose right inner corner of the eye the eye
should blink. An old vet trick.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 11:14 AM, Pam Norman wrote:
Ok, glad she can close them. But she COULD be blind. That would
account for the non-response.
Yes and add a few more %^*()^^$%#$*s. But they are here to help us grow,
to realize that the now is so very important. If we let them they expand
our lives, our ability to love, to care for physically, emotionally,
spiritually---in every way. If they weren't sent to us with a purpose how
Thanks for the information Lance.
I will ask my vet about it tomorrow
as well as the Innova-EVO and Transfer Factor.
She has given me the Maitake DMG. I've been
giving it to her twice a day since Friday.
I am so grateful to have found this list. I was
thinking how isolated and scary it would
Why did your vet say she could not go out? Can she go out when she
gets over all the stuff she has? Little Mamie always went out
sometimes with us and sometimes on her own. Fortunately we were in a
very safe neighborhood and she would go out at five AM and stay out
until ten at night.
Oh--I forgot. Little Sammy also takes interferon.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Lance wrote:
Jane,
I'm not a vet, but my sense is that boosting the immune system will
help with the stomatitis. I'm using Liquid DMG and Transfer Factor
on my cat.
Ask your vet about feeding raw too...at least as a supplement. And consider
giving your little one Just Born either as a treat to drink or as a powder
mixed in wet food.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
Oh, Lord, cats are SO FUNNY!
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:
This morning when I headed into the kitchen to feed everyone, I
removed what I thought was a clean frying pan from the stivetop --
I use the stove as a stagingt area to
At 07:13 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
Leukemia kitties should be kept in so they do not infect other cats
and also so they do not pick up other stuff.
In general Ido not adopt any cats out who are allowed to roam free.
there are cars and dogs and engines they get into, they get trapped
in
Boy, do I agree with you!
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Kelly L wrote:
At 12:59 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
I find this conversation quite timely...You see I have just
withdrawn my long time support of Best Friends because of something
similar, I
Those moderators didn't want to lose any potential funding, in my
opinion.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Nina wrote:
Well that just wiped the smile from my face. I was not privy to
the exchange and have never been to any of the Best Friends forums,
If you find it hard to give up on Kisa, well, DON'T! Will you please
ask your vet if a fine-needle biopsy of Kisa's liver is feasible?
Then she won't need general anesthesia because it's a poke instead of
an operation. We all have some variation of other kitties and jobs
and kids and
Ebony and Mitu had a large chain link enclosure they entered thru
ductworkpet door in a window into the ductwork on to a platform down
a ramp they loved it.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
You are such a wonderful mommy to see little Kisa so often. That is
doing a great deal to help in her recovery. Everyone likes to see
somebody they love when they are ill.
Taylor Scobie Humphrey
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On May 28, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Kelly L wrote:
At 04:41 PM 5/28/2007, you
I almost lost a precious one, my boyfriend kitty, to hemobart a few
years ago. It was really scary. He had a high fever, his liver values
were up, his HCT went down like a rock. But doxycycline saved his life.
It is THE drug for hemobart. I would think that the combination of the
doxy, the
Had to laugh at this! It never ceases to amaze me how creative kitties
can be!
Pam
Susan Hoffman wrote:
Oh, we always close the door. Same with the microwave. We close
doors on toaster ovens and microwaves to protect the food that we've
hidden from the cats.
My mother was punished this
We had one pee on the coffee maker recently which made
for a very interesting morning for my husband and I.
He was completely pissed, and just looked at me in
wonder when I told him if he couldn't taste the pee,
then it probably wasn't in there and just to drink it,
as I walked off as if it were
They can't do the needle biospy here, they don't have the equipment. I'm
thinking they need the ultrasound in order to do it.
Basically my options are: to have her fully hydrated, put some food into her
and hope she feels well enough to do the general anesthesia and biopsy, or to
send her
Hi Jane,
It sounds like you are still mourning NoNo very
deeply. I am sorry you lost her. She sounds like she
was a very special cat and she was with you for so
long. It's natural to feel like you do about this new
diagnosis, but don't give up hope yet. With a good
diet, a stress free
Hey Kelley,
Just wondering how your baby is doing?
:)
Wendy
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
Cassanndra.
She MUST stay on the doxy! Be sure you have enough for a minimum of 4
weeks after she is home. Hemobart is a really nasty bug if you stop
the doxy, it will come right back.
Pam
C J wrote:
They can't do the needle biospy here, they don't have the equipment.
I'm thinking
Hey Cassandra,
I was reading up on hemobartanellosis right now, and
it says that it can cause jaundice, which is related
to the liver, I believe. Maybe that's what's causing
the liver issues?! I sure hope so. Thank goodness
they found the hemobart, because it is VERY hard to
diagnose. Half
Hey Jane,
Did the vet say what causes the giardia?
Thanks,
Wendy
--- Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thank you all for your encouragement and sound
advise.
Has anyone been able to cure stomatitis ?
We are working on diarrhea, giardia (which is
probably
causing the diarrhea)
Don't bother. Trixie peed on the Feliway plug in. I saved a lot of money on
refills right there.
Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They definitely know what they are
doing. I've used Feliway to calm cats and an alternative vet recommends Cat
Nap and various flower essences including
Rett,
I cannot answer your question completely, but in case
you don't get anymore replies, I used to give Smookie,
my new kitten last year who had a corneal ulcer, 500
mg 2x per day. Some will probaby say that's a lot,
but it worked wonders. Smookie was probably at least
six months old at that
When I have a little more time, remind me to type up the Poop Fairy story.
(Subtitle: How Spot trained my roommate to give her strawberry ice cream and
bacon and to never, never again spray her with water to get her off his desk.)
They hold grnges, can plot against you, and are capable of
thanks, again, susan! scary, the things that make us laugh out loud, huh?
On 5/28/07, Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't bother. Trixie peed on the Feliway plug in. I saved a lot of money
on refills right there.
*Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
They definitely know what they
Mary,
I was saddened and shocked to read about your cat that
passed due to FeLV. Getting the initial diagnosis is
always hard, but even harder when they are actually
very sick. It's possible he tested negative when he
was actually positive. It happens. Or it's possible
that Chica may have
You can find more about hemobart on the feline anemia list. A number of
people over there have dealt with it. I just know that doxycycline saved
Gus's life after he spent a week in the ICU at the U of WI vet hospital
in Madison. It was pretty awful because his brother had died there only
a
Please do tell!!
Susan Hoffman wrote:
When I have a little more time, remind me to type up the Poop Fairy
story. (Subtitle: How Spot trained my roommate to give her
strawberry ice cream and bacon and to never, never again spray her
with water to get her off his desk.) They hold
Please add our cat Scamper of 18 years to the CLS list. He lost his
fight with cancer and CRF, he died in my arms. He will go to the rainbow
bridge to reunite with his sibling Eli who passed last year of
complications form FIV. His memory will be kept alive, so in part he
will be be still
Sam,
I'm so sorry to hear about little Scamper. Prayers
going out for comfort for you and your wife.
:)
Wendy
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Please add our cat Scamper of 18 years to the CLS
list. He lost his
fight with cancer and CRF, he died in my arms. He
will go to
Jane,
You are so right about the overwhelming amount of FeLV
info. on the Internet-some of it odd. Take a deep
breath. You will successfully wade through it all.
Just give yourself time to ingest it all and cyphon
back out what you don't need.
:)
Wendy
--- Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sam, may his road be lit by the radiance of the love that you obviously
have for him. He the others will be there when you cross that
bridge. Sylvia Browne says that when we cross, that friends relatives
must stand back wait while the animals greet us. They are first. As
they should be.
At 08:47 PM 5/28/2007, you wrote:
I am so sorry for your loss of Scamper. No matter how old they are it
still hurts so much. When I pass I am going to have so many ashes
mixed mine and then the potting soil and then plant trees with all of
us for the bird to hang out inand keep all the
Dear Scamper will still be sleeping with you. My dad could always
feel his cat Sam on his bed at night after Sam passed away.
Conscience is Causal
and Physicality is its
Manifest.
On May 28, 2007, at 10:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Please add our cat Scamper of 18 years to the CLS
Cassandra,
I'm glad Kisa is at the vets and I'm praying as hard as I can that she
will have the strength needed to recover. Have you got copies of her
blood work? I'd be interested in seeing them. Anemia can cause many of
the symptoms she has had, lethargy, not wanting to eating and an
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