Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Maureen Olvey
From: molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 01:56:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Yikes! I don't like those statistics at all but I believe it. I've been feeding ferals at my office for the last 8 years. Several months

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Maureen Olvey
Regarding Amber - Been doing more reading. By keeping Amber in the basement you're not putting your cats at risk at all so don't feel guilty about that. One thing said 60% of cats exposed to FeLV don't get it. 5-10% put it into a latent stage. Only about 30% get it and die (still too many

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Is there any way you could use a full-spectrum light in the basement for Amber? I have installed fluorescent full-spectrum light for the cats in our garage cat condos; none have been sick for years! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
I deal with ferals too and all of my house cats have been ferals. One cost me two surgeries thanks to biting through a finger...my fault not hers. A lot of older people are on blood thinners, have extremely thin skin etc. I've been scratched more times than I can count. Obviously, you

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Personally, if I had to make such a choice - having my cat that I have loved for years go though such pain and torture, I would rather get a home for the cat and adopt one that is already declawed - there are quite a few that are in desperate need for homes because they've been abandoned for so

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Edna, I agree. Four of our five cats were outside at some time in their lives, 3 of those were feral, and 2 of *those* were kittens I trapped myself, and they have not been outside since the day we met. Just because they stare out the window sometimes doesn't mean they're longing for the feel of

[Felvtalk] Fw: Re: FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread TANYA NOE
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: TANYA NOE sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 9:09 AM Personally I would never rather see a cat dead than see it

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
I didn't say that I would, I wrote: ... but sometimes I wonder whether I might almost rather see them dead than declawedbut I'd beg someone to take the cat first. This is obviously a very touchy subject with strong opinions, which will not be changed. -Original Message- From:

[Felvtalk] Who would like to get the Declawing info?

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
I cannot send it to the group because it's larger than 20 KB, sorry! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Who would like to get the Declawing info?

2011-03-24 Thread Debbie Bates
I would please.. Debbie ~ When the world says, Give up, hope whispers, Try it one more time ~ Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 11:29:30 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Who would like to get the Declawing info? I cannot send it to the

Re: [Felvtalk] Who would like to get the Declawing info?

2011-03-24 Thread Katy Doyle
I would. Thanks, Katy On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: I cannot send it to the group because it's larger than 20 KB, sorry! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

[Felvtalk] Information - Declawing - Please read

2011-03-24 Thread Jacquelyn Gonzales
Please click on the link below to read more about declawing, see an actual video of what declawing did to a lion and print materials out for potential adopters.   http://www.pawproject.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
Thank you so much Maureen. I really appreciate you taking the time to reassure me. I really do love little Amber and will do the best I can for her. I can't help hoping and praying that the test was wrong and I can eventually let her join the other kids.  Jannes

[Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she has ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not... If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray she is not pregnant. If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her stomach...I've had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable that they were in heat. Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin supplements before she is spayed. BTW, when she's

Re: [Felvtalk] Information - Declawing - Please read

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
It is true about the change in the way they walk - one can tell when a cat is declawed. My sister-in-law declawed her first cat (actually inherited her from her son) - they are obsessed with their homesWhen my mother-in-law was visiting here, she told me that the second cat she got was in a

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I took Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my

Re: [Felvtalk] Information - Declawing - Please read

2011-03-24 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Where I come from (the Netherlands) declawing is illegal, and that's what it should be here...illegal!! Peggy 2011/3/24 Natalie at...@optonline.net It is true about the change in the way they walk - one can tell when a cat is declawed. My sister-in-law declawed her first cat (actually

Re: [Felvtalk] Please help: Having trouble ordering LTCI

2011-03-24 Thread Beth
Can anyone help Sean? I didn't see any responses for him, but I may have missed it. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Sean T. Collins nonservia...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sean T. Collins nonservia...@gmail.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Please help: Having

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?  Jannes From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive

[Felvtalk] Urgent !! Please help: Having trouble ordering LTCI

2011-03-24 Thread Sharyl
I've not used LTCI.  I know some here do use it.  Please folks lets get off indoor cats and declawing and help Sean. Sharyl --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Wed, 3/23/11, Sean T. Collins nonservia...@gmail.com wrote: From: Sean T. Collins nonservia...@gmail.com

[Felvtalk] LTCI answer

2011-03-24 Thread Andy Domek
Hi Sean, Our vet just ordered LTCI directly from the company, and it was about $100 cheaper for the ten pack then the previous outside distributor. So glad it is working for you! We've used it with our almost 7 year old Aggie (FELV+ since birth) since June of last year, and had some good

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the cocktailworks wonders! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
 I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!  Jannes From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
I would say leave well enough alone unless you are afraid that she may get pregnant...let her recuperate and then have the vet check her. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Thursday, March

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
Colostrum...works wonders for critters and people. If you have access to a holistic vet, ask her/him for advise. On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote: I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are there any supplements you recommend that I can

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and build up so Amber doesn't get diarrhea. Does she like yogurt? If not, also get some acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are also some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) - they

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Natalie What kind of yeast tablets do you get? My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put brewer's yeast on our popcorn. Thanks. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
Please: More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn. This is a new one...type and amount? Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and Thomas Cougar and Bob the Dog. Just figuring out how to present it is the issue. I

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
My housemate and I were faced with such a decision 10 or 11 years ago, when we moved from our separate apartments to our formerly-two-flat house, and melded our cat families. She had two, an elderly lady named Kitty and a pugnacious orange boy named Tribble. I had 3 -- my laid-back Luc, my

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread dlgegg
Lord, from the number of declawed and indoor cat replies, I have a lot of emails to go thru. Lots of opinions there. As for me, I will put up with the furniture problems, etc. rather than put any of my babies thru any pain and discomfort. Of course, when it comes to fighting and keep or put

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
You did the best thing younew to do and it worked. Blessings to you both and your family. Sometimes you just take your best shot and pray. On Mar 24, 2011, at 5:46 PM, Diane Rosenfeldt wrote: My housemate and I were faced with such a decision 10 or 11 years ago, when we moved from our

[Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!

2011-03-24 Thread Sean T. Collins
Beth, Sharyl, Andy, thank you so much for your concern and help! And Andy, thank you for the link to tcyte.com—I was unaware of that site. Fortunately, I got good news from the staff at the vet today: Felix's doctor was able to order the medicine using one of the numbers I sniffed up from the

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue
MMPG I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years ago. I think it helped with fleas. But lately (new cats) it isn't accepted as well. When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter combo on it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's

[Felvtalk] Garrett Please add to the CLS :(

2011-03-24 Thread Sherry DeHaan
So you would think there was no more need for MORE kitties in heaven!! Today our sweet Sids kid Garrett left us. He was a quiet laid back cat that NEVER caused any problems.Always had a purr for you and such a sweet face. Dont know how much more we volunteers AND Dr Jen can take with losing so

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices Brewer's Yeast tablets: http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch =truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12 Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and flavoring! -Original Message-

Re: [Felvtalk] Garrett Please add to the CLS :(

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Heaven will be a better place with Garrett - but such a sad one for you! I am so sorry - Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherry DeHaan Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 10:14 PM To: Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Garrett Please add to the CLS :(

2011-03-24 Thread Sharyl
Sherry, you all have such big hearts.  These special kitties are loved and cared for for however long they have.  So many kitties don't get that kind of lovin'.   Thank you for being there for them Sharyl --- On Thu, 3/24/11, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan

Re: [Felvtalk] LTCI thank you!

2011-03-24 Thread designercats
Hi Sean,Tcyte (Dr. Beardsley) was the original company who developed the LTCI. The LTCI was very reasonably priced. Tcyte was in the midst of trials. The marketing rights? were sold to Imulan in the midst of the initial trials, who then inflated the price terribly. Imulan then sold (probably