Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
I'd also like to put in a plug for Zithromax and Convenia. Zithromax - I buy it dry, divide it into 3rds, and mix a 3rd at a time. Sometimes 1 day 1 dose will do the trick, especially for kittens. We've also had miraculous results with Convenia too, but you get the vet to give an injection of that. Some vets aren't into these antibiotics - they just use the same old stuff - Amoxi, Clavamox, Clindamycin, which are good - but the newer ones can be extremely helpful. You can also use Little Noses 4 hour drops (the nose drops, not the saline) - I'm trying to remember the name of the other drops I've used, can't recall it. But only the 4 hour ones. I've put on a q-tip and squished against the nose, and can be helpful. Anybody else know about nose drops? Maybe some of the messages I haven't read yet. If the cause of the congestion is related to Herpes, of course, you'd want to use Lysine orally, which is otc. Not sure what the homeopathic remedy would be...hmmm. I've been using a humidifier in my house on cold nights, because of the dryness to noses. Best of luck, Gloria On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a heavier duty antibiotic. What antibiotic was already given? I swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia antibiotic injection. --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: From: Melinda Kerr Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion
just wanted to say also, maybe you could call the front desk at your vet, and find out EXACTLY what meds were giving to your kitty... it's good to know that. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:56 AM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: I'd also like to put in a plug for Zithromax and Convenia. Zithromax - I buy it dry, divide it into 3rds, and mix a 3rd at a time. Sometimes 1 day 1 dose will do the trick, especially for kittens. We've also had miraculous results with Convenia too, but you get the vet to give an injection of that. Some vets aren't into these antibiotics - they just use the same old stuff - Amoxi, Clavamox, Clindamycin, which are good - but the newer ones can be extremely helpful. You can also use Little Noses 4 hour drops (the nose drops, not the saline) - I'm trying to remember the name of the other drops I've used, can't recall it. But only the 4 hour ones. I've put on a q- tip and squished against the nose, and can be helpful. Anybody else know about nose drops? Maybe some of the messages I haven't read yet. If the cause of the congestion is related to Herpes, of course, you'd want to use Lysine orally, which is otc. Not sure what the homeopathic remedy would be...hmmm. I've been using a humidifier in my house on cold nights, because of the dryness to noses. Best of luck, Gloria On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote: Little Noses brand salineBut it sounds like you may need a heavier duty antibiotic. What antibiotic was already given? I swear by zithromax but have also seen good results from the Convenia antibiotic injection. --- On Mon, 12/6/10, Melinda Kerr wrote: From: Melinda Kerr Subject: [Felvtalk] Helping kitty with extreme congestion To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:37 PM As I wrote in my previous post on mixing, my little kitty is extremely congested. The vet has given him antibiotics and anti-inflammatory medicine, but since he isn't too interested in eating, I am having trouble getting them into him. I have very limited access to medications or natural remedies unless they are homemade using easily accessible ingredients. I read something about saline drops or using children's Afrin. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you, Melinda and VooDoo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is definitely helpful and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have three other cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. My biggest concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only received her rabies shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against further vaccines many years ago. The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from cat to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally takes prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is currently separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that it does not survive long in normal household conditions. I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday. My husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible. I'm still on the fence. Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. It definitely helps. Thanks, Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
I have read in holistic reviews that since rabies is required by law, and you take a chance on vaccinating or not. However, the FVRCP given to kittens, then again, and then a year later (new protocol says every 3 yrs), however, vets still do it yearly because they make money on them. After the initial series for kittens, FVRCP technically should last a lifetimeis anyone listening? NO! It's a money maker. If I didn't operate a rescue group, with cats not going out except in safe outdoor enclosures, I would not vaccinate every year, especially not any cat with FIV/FeLV! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:01 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems, it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp that thinks it doesn't matter. I've seen articles about this but sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: > Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback. It is > definitely helpful > and encouraging. For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is > Magic and she > is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis. I have > three other > cats. Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they > were > kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter. > My biggest > concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2. She has only > received her rabies > shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to > her vaccines > when she was a kitten. Since she is an indoor cat, the vet > recommended against > further vaccines many years ago. > > The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after > vaccinating > also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as > easily from cat > to cat as we might be led to believe. She told me that it generally > takes > prolonged consistent contact to be passed. My FELV+ kitten is > currently > separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned > about > accidental exposure to my negative cats. She also emphasized that > it does not > survive long in normal household conditions. > > I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or > Friday. My > husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if > possible. I'm still > on the fence. > > Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective. > It definitely > helps. > > Thanks, > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
I would call your vet, but i don't see why it would be a problem, just remember kittens immune systems are not as strong as your older cats, make sure you are keeping the water dishes, litter boxes and such clean... congrats on your new addition! From: Peggy Verdonck To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 11:52:03 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Since all your other cats are negative, I would not hesitate to start a process of integrating into the household. I assume you're asking since you once had an FELV positive at one time, but as I understand that virus is very fragile and doesn't survive long outside the body. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have false results. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
For now the kitten is seperated from all the others. Only if kitten is negative on the test and vaccinated, we will integrate after 2 weeks (if we decide to keep him). I clean litter boxes every day and they all have their own food bowl. They get fed twice a day. I can't leave food out because of some will keep eating. Thanks on your input! :-) 2010/12/8 Joslin Potter > I would call your vet, but i don't see why it would be a problem, just > remember > kittens immune systems are not as strong as your older cats, make sure you > are > keeping the water dishes, litter boxes and such clean... congrats on your > new > addition! > > > > > > From: Peggy Verdonck > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wed, December 8, 2010 11:52:03 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > Found > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into > the group in about 2 weeks. > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Peggy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have > false results. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > Found > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into > the group in about 2 weeks. > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Peggy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Well, yes we had a felv positive cat, but it was in our current group of cats, who are all negative so far. They need to be tested again (since our vet adviced us to do that in a couple of months, to make a 100% sure). 2010/12/8 Gloria B. Lane > Since all your other cats are negative, I would not hesitate to start a > process of integrating into the household. I assume you're asking since you > once had an FELV positive at one time, but as I understand that virus is > very fragile and doesn't survive long outside the body. > > Gloria > > > > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. >> She >> went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week >> later. >> She was suffering! >> We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the >> same >> day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with >> Oreo for almost a year! >> To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. >> >> The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. >> Found >> him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take >> him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. >> He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. >> My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him >> tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into >> the group in about 2 weeks. >> Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance >> that >> there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! >> >> We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears >> to >> be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. >> >> Thanks for your thoughts! >> >> Peggy >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our state, we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) as they are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what to do. Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening as much as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've also heard treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. Thanks again. Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
Rabies is not necessary on indoor cats, but it's required by law in your state. I would get a second opinion on vaccinating your cats on a regular basis, other then rabies, because even you can bring in a disease that can make your cat sick. Especially cats who are Felv + need their yearly booster to prevent them from getting sick. They might not be able to fight a simple infection, because of their weak immune system. 2010/12/8 Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over > vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our > state, > we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) as > they > are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what to > do. > > > Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening as > much > as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've also > heard > treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. > > Thanks again. > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
According to my vet, cats with compromised immune systems should NOT be vaccinated; he also refuses to vaccinate cats that are sick and/or running a feverSince the FVRCP should last a lifetime, and rabies cannot be brought into the house, I would seriously think about not doing it. If a cat doesn't go outside, even if the state requires rabies vaccines, you don't have to do it (they don't knoow that you have a cat) - unless you operate a rescue facility as I do. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:04 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats Rabies is not necessary on indoor cats, but it's required by law in your state. I would get a second opinion on vaccinating your cats on a regular basis, other then rabies, because even you can bring in a disease that can make your cat sick. Especially cats who are Felv + need their yearly booster to prevent them from getting sick. They might not be able to fight a simple infection, because of their weak immune system. 2010/12/8 Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over > vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our > state, > we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) as > they > are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what to > do. > > > Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening as > much > as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've also > heard > treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. > > Thanks again. > Stephanie > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be correct, or a false positive... If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only 80% effective) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have > false results. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > Found > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into > the group in about 2 weeks. > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > Peggy > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
I agree on the Rabies, but not on the FVRCP. Of course a cat that is sick at the moment, shouldn't be vaccinated (no vet will do that), but my vet told me that healthy cats (even Felv+ with no problems at that moment) should be vaccinated annualy. Rather prevent a infection then a Felv+ cat that cannot fight the infection. 2010/12/8 Natalie > According to my vet, cats with compromised immune systems should NOT be > vaccinated; he also refuses to vaccinate cats that are sick and/or running > a > feverSince the FVRCP should last a lifetime, and rabies cannot be > brought into the house, I would seriously think about not doing it. > If a cat doesn't go outside, even if the state requires rabies vaccines, > you > don't have to do it (they don't knoow that you have a cat) - unless you > operate a rescue facility as I do. > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative > Cats > > Rabies is not necessary on indoor cats, but it's required by law in your > state. > > I would get a second opinion on vaccinating your cats on a regular basis, > other then rabies, because even you can bring in a disease that can make > your cat sick. Especially cats who are Felv + need their yearly booster to > prevent them from getting sick. They might not be able to fight a simple > infection, because of their weak immune system. > > > > > > 2010/12/8 Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > > > Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over > > vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our > > state, > > we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) > as > > they > > are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what > to > > do. > > > > > > Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening > as > > much > > as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've > also > > heard > > treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. > > > > Thanks again. > > Stephanie > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
The new protocol from the Veterinary Association (I have it) came around quite a few years ago that it shouldn't be done every year, but every three years. And that's exactly what I mean, vets don't even know that? It's disappointing. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats I agree on the Rabies, but not on the FVRCP. Of course a cat that is sick at the moment, shouldn't be vaccinated (no vet will do that), but my vet told me that healthy cats (even Felv+ with no problems at that moment) should be vaccinated annualy. Rather prevent a infection then a Felv+ cat that cannot fight the infection. 2010/12/8 Natalie > According to my vet, cats with compromised immune systems should NOT be > vaccinated; he also refuses to vaccinate cats that are sick and/or running > a > feverSince the FVRCP should last a lifetime, and rabies cannot be > brought into the house, I would seriously think about not doing it. > If a cat doesn't go outside, even if the state requires rabies vaccines, > you > don't have to do it (they don't knoow that you have a cat) - unless you > operate a rescue facility as I do. > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:04 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative > Cats > > Rabies is not necessary on indoor cats, but it's required by law in your > state. > > I would get a second opinion on vaccinating your cats on a regular basis, > other then rabies, because even you can bring in a disease that can make > your cat sick. Especially cats who are Felv + need their yearly booster to > prevent them from getting sick. They might not be able to fight a simple > infection, because of their weak immune system. > > > > > > 2010/12/8 Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > > > Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over > > vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our > > state, > > we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) > as > > they > > are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what > to > > do. > > > > > > Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening > as > > much > > as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've > also > > heard > > treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. > > > > Thanks again. > > Stephanie > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
Rabies may be not be required by law for indoor cats, depending on your local. Even so, they're not going to come in your house to check on your house cats. For FELV, I've read quite a bit that healthy adult cats have a good immunity to it whether they're vaccinated or not. Gloria On Dec 8, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote: Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended over vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our state, we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and prior) as they are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what to do. Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening as much as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've also heard treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. Thanks again. Stephanie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
My other cats are all negative! But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know about false positives being common, but not false negatives. What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? Thanks for your time! Peggy 2010/12/8 Natalie > You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be > correct, or a false positive... > If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at > our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. > Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? > If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV > vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only > 80% effective) > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body > parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. > > What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? > > I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and > I > will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an > email, > and waiting on her answer! > > Thanks for your input! > > > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > have > > false results. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. > She > > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week > later. > > She was suffering! > > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > > same > > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with > > Oreo for almost a year! > > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > > > > The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > > Found > > him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to > take > > him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > > He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > > My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > > tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate > into > > the group in about 2 weeks. > > Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance > that > > there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > > > > We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears > to > > be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > > > > Thanks for your thoughts! > > > > Peggy > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative Cats
Mmmm, now I'm thinking about it...i went to a different vet a couple of years ago and my Davos received a 3-year vaccine. I thought he did that because Davos has a chronic one sided sinus infection. Didn't know they are availble for all cats. But I guess it depends on what kind/type/brand of vaccine you use? 2010/12/8 Natalie > The new protocol from the Veterinary Association (I have it) came around > quite a few years ago that it shouldn't be done every year, but every three > years. And that's exactly what I mean, vets don't even know that? It's > disappointing. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 3:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative > Cats > > I agree on the Rabies, but not on the FVRCP. Of course a cat that is sick > at > the moment, shouldn't be vaccinated (no vet will do that), but my vet > told me that healthy cats (even Felv+ with no problems at that moment) > should be vaccinated annualy. Rather prevent a infection then a Felv+ cat > that cannot fight the infection. > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > According to my vet, cats with compromised immune systems should NOT be > > vaccinated; he also refuses to vaccinate cats that are sick and/or > running > > a > > feverSince the FVRCP should last a lifetime, and rabies cannot be > > brought into the house, I would seriously think about not doing it. > > If a cat doesn't go outside, even if the state requires rabies vaccines, > > you > > don't have to do it (they don't knoow that you have a cat) - unless you > > operate a rescue facility as I do. > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 2:04 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Integrating Positive and Negative > > Cats > > > > Rabies is not necessary on indoor cats, but it's required by law in your > > state. > > > > I would get a second opinion on vaccinating your cats on a regular basis, > > other then rabies, because even you can bring in a disease that can make > > your cat sick. Especially cats who are Felv + need their yearly booster > to > > prevent them from getting sick. They might not be able to fight a simple > > infection, because of their weak immune system. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2010/12/8 Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry > > > > > Thanks Everyone. I am lucky in that my vets have never recommended > over > > > vaccinating. Other than rabies, which is required yearly by law in our > > > state, > > > we have never done additional vaccinating on my cats (current and > prior) > > as > > > they > > > are indoor cats only. It's part of the struggle with figuring out what > > to > > > do. > > > > > > > > > Separately, Magic had a watery eye this morning that she wasn't opening > > as > > > much > > > as the other one. So we need to keep a watch on that for her as I've > > also > > > heard > > > treating her symptoms early is key to her quality of life. > > > > > > Thanks again. > > > Stephanie > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came home showing signs of a fight. Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend retesting even for negatives. Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck wrote: > My other cats are all negative! > > But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know > about false positives being common, but not false negatives. > > What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? > > Thanks for your time! > > Peggy > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > >> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be >> correct, or a false positive... >> If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at >> our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. >> Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? >> If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV >> vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only >> 80% effective) >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. >> >> He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body >> parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. >> >> What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? >> >> I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and >> I >> will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an >> email, >> and waiting on her answer! >> >> Thanks for your input! >> >> >> >> 2010/12/8 Natalie >> >>> It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can >> have >>> false results. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. >>> >>> About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. >> She >>> went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week >> later. >>> She was suffering! >>> We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the >>> same >>> day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with >>> Oreo for almost a year! >>> To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. >>> >>> The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. >>> Found >>> him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to >> take >>> him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. >>> He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. >>> My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him >>> tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate >> into >>> the group in about 2 weeks. >>> Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance >> that >>> there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! >>> >>> We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears >> to >>> be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. >>> >>> Thanks for your thoughts! >>> >>> Peggy >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Hi Peggy, Here is an example, when I rescued a double positive Mama and her kittens, at first (6 weeks old, and pulled from Mom at that point) 2 tested double positive, the other two positive for Fiv only. A vet and another rescuer told me that with kittens from an felv+ Mom sometimes they will teat negative at first but then 'go positive'-which unfortunatelybdid happen in this case. The ones that initially tested + for fiv only, did go on to test + for felv ( but all cleared the fiv) on multiple tests. All of her kittens succumbed by 6 months to just over a year of age, but 3.5 years later, Mama is still going. There is no "rule" I don't think, this is just an example of how a kitten can test negative then turn out to be felv+ after all. And the opposite can happen as well! Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came home showing signs of a fight. Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend retesting even for negatives. Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck > wrote: My other cats are all negative! But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know about false positives being common, but not false negatives. What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? Thanks for your time! Peggy 2010/12/8 Natalie You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be correct, or a false positive... If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only 80% effective) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can have false results. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. She went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week later. She was suffering! We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the same day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living with Oreo for almost a year! To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. Found him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to take him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate into the group in about 2 weeks. Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance that there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it appears to be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. Thanks for your thoughts! Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
I understand and I'm very aware of that. I guess I just want this kitten to have a good home but it might not be with us. I lost 3 cats in this past year (only one to Felv) and I am just so ready for something positive to happen in this household. A new kitten is such a joy, but maybe not under these circumstances. It is to soon I'm afraid. Still waiting to hear back from my vet, and then I will make my final decision on what to do with this kitten. My other cats were exposed to my Felv+ cat (we just didn't know, until she got sick) for almost a year and every single one of them tested negative in the first test. 2010/12/8 Melinda Kerr > My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 > months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. > She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came > home showing signs of a fight. > > Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when > she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. > > So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also > possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend > retesting even for negatives. > > Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck > wrote: > > > My other cats are all negative! > > > > But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know > > about false positives being common, but not false negatives. > > > > What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? > > > > Thanks for your time! > > > > Peggy > > > > 2010/12/8 Natalie > > > >> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be > >> correct, or a false positive... > >> If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward > at > >> our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. > >> Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? > >> If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV > >> vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are > only > >> 80% effective) > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy > Verdonck > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM > >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > >> > >> He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body > >> parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. > >> > >> What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? > >> > >> I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription > and > >> I > >> will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an > >> email, > >> and waiting on her answer! > >> > >> Thanks for your input! > >> > >> > >> > >> 2010/12/8 Natalie > >> > >>> It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > >> have > >>> false results. > >>> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > >>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy > Verdonck > >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > >>> > >>> About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. > >> She > >>> went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week > >> later. > >>> She was suffering! > >>> We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > >>> same > >>> day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living > with > >>> Oreo for almost a year! > >>> To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. > >>> > >>> The thing is.we rescued this 10 week old kitten yesterday evening. > >>> Found > >>> him in the bushes besides a dumpster at a gas station, and decided to > >> take > >>> him home because we didn't think he would survive the freezing cold. > >>> He is now warm and safe in our bathroom, separated from the rest. > >>> My question is.would it be safe for him and the others, to have him > >>> tested for Felv/Fiv and if negative, vaccinate for Felv and integrate > >> into > >>> the group in about 2 weeks. > >>> Againour other cats are negative but there is still a small chance > >> that > >>> there might be a positive test result in the 2nd round of testing! > >>> > >>> We really would like to keep him and give a good home. But if it > appears > >> to > >>> be a bad idea we will find him a good home with someone else. > >>> > >>> Thanks for your thoughts! > >>> > >>> Peggy > >>> ___ > >>> Felvtalk mailing list > >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >>> > >>> > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not.
Yes, and that there is no rule makes it so hard for me. Basicly if you know that it can go both ways, you can't really add another cat to your household because every negative can turn positive at one point. This disease is just very complicated. We got a good scare over this one cat turning out being + after living with our other indoor cats for almost a year. All our other cats turned out to be negative. We can't keep this poor kitten isolated for a couple of months untill everybody has been tested twice, that's why I thought to have the kitten tested and if negative, vaccinate against Felv. But to be honest to myself, the kitten needs to be tested twice also to make sure our other cats will be safe and not just him. 2010/12/8 Heather Wienker > Hi Peggy, > > Here is an example, when I rescued a double positive Mama and her kittens, > at first (6 weeks old, and pulled from Mom at that point) 2 tested double > positive, the other two positive for Fiv only. A vet and another rescuer > told me that with kittens from an felv+ Mom sometimes they will teat > negative at first but then 'go positive'-which unfortunatelybdid happen in > this case. The ones that initially tested + for fiv only, did go on to test > + for felv ( but all cleared the fiv) on multiple tests. All of her kittens > succumbed by 6 months to just over a year of age, but 3.5 years later, Mama > is still going. > > There is no "rule" I don't think, this is just an example of how a kitten > can test negative then turn out to be felv+ after all. And the opposite can > happen as well! > > Scent from my wireless handheld litterbox =^..^= > > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 7:46 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: > > My cat tested negative at 6 weeks old. She did not go out until she was 8 >> months old. Even then she rarely if ever came in contact with another cat. >> She was only out for very short periods close by the house. She never came >> home showing signs of a fight. >> >> Looking back at her medical history, including a fairly severe virus when >> she came to us, the vet believes she got it from her mother. >> >> So yes, it is possible for a young kitten to test negative. It is also >> possible to test negative shortly after exposure. That is why they recommend >> retesting even for negatives. >> >> Melinda, Fuji, and Voodoo >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 9, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Peggy Verdonck >> wrote: >> >> My other cats are all negative! >>> >>> But if kittens test is negative now, then he is negative right? I know >>> about false positives being common, but not false negatives. >>> >>> What kind of risks do you mean by using the Felv vaccine? >>> >>> Thanks for your time! >>> >>> Peggy >>> >>> 2010/12/8 Natalie >>> >>> You can test at any age, the question is whether the test result will be correct, or a false positive... If you can keep him isolated in your bathroom (the best isolation ward at our house) until he is over 3 months old, test result efficacy improves. Are your other cats negative or positive for FIV/FeLV? If they are negative, and kitten proves to be negative - don't use FeLV vaccine unnecessarily (they, too, pose risks and, as all vaccines, are only 80% effective) -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy Verdonck Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. He is about 10 weeks old, if not older. When I look at some of his body parts (and testicals ;-) he even seems older then that. What do you think? Too young for testing, or okay? I have to go to the vet later this afternoon to pick up a prescription and I will talk to her about it. I've also send my friend, who is a vet, an email, and waiting on her answer! Thanks for your input! 2010/12/8 Natalie It all depends on the kitten's age - when tested too young, tests can > have > false results. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Peggy > Verdonck > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:52 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on taking in kitten or not. > > About 6 weeks ago, our cat Oreo got sick and tested positive on Felv. > She > went downhill since that point and we had to put her to sleep a week > later. > She was suffering! > We panicked about our 6 other (indoor) cats and had them all tested the > same > day Oreo tested positive. They were all negative, even after living > with > Oreo for almost a year! > To be a 100% sure we will test them again in a while. >
