[Felvtalk] Advice
My 7yr old has up till this point shown no signs of the virus. Tuesday she was acting very odd and not eating. I took her to the vet, who ran bloodwork. Her lympocytes were incredibly high, wbc was high (can't remember the numbers), she had a 104 temp. She got injections of b12, steroid, antibiotic and I was sent home with antibiotic and pain meds if needed and an appetite stimulant. Wed she wouldn't eat again so I was syringe feeding her. I have been giving her the anitbio and app stimulant. Today she started to eat on her own, although I will still syringe to make sure she's getting enough nutrients. She also has IBD but the vet said to give her whatever she'll eat at this point to at least get her wanting to eat again. We sent the bloodwork out to a lab to assure the in house results were correct, they were. My vet wants to start her on cerenia, keep her on the anitbio and the app stimulant. We're basically going to take it day by day at this point. Since she is now shedding the virus she is staying in her bedroom (which has a screen door on it) but is a little stressed that she can't come out and visit when we are home. I've been going in and visiting as much as possible but it's hard when I'm gone for most of the day. We have another kitty who we have to get tested in 2 months to see if she was exposed. If anyone has suggestions or opinions I would appreciate it. Also, has anyone used cerenia and is there anything I should know about it? Has anyone else gone through similiar experiences and can offer any advice? Thanks in advance and sorry this is so long. Dee ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: Advice
I was confused by the cerenia because she is not vomiting but my vet said maybe she is nauseous and that could be adding to her not wanting to eat. She did mention it's 4 or 5 days on/off. Someone else suggested pepcid, which I thought was odd but will bring it up to my vet. Thanks for the food suggestions. I will try whatever I can. This morning she was acting off again, although she did eat some dry food on her own. It'll be a long weekend but I will do whatever I can for her. We attempted to take her temp but that did not go so well. Friday, October 19, 2012 12:08 AM From: "Christiane Biagi" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sounds like ur vet is trying to gether to get rid of any infection. In terms of eating, I think ur vet is right on—give her anything she’ll eat. Some things I’ve used are Gerber stage2 ham, or turkey or beef (has no garlic or onion—just plain); tuna “water” (from can); yogurt is good if she’ll take it—helps with nausea/diarrhea from antibiotics. All my cats seem to devour Fancy Feast (chicken classic)—its like catnip! Lol Basically, I go thru refrig & try everything—cold cuts, cheese, cottage cheese—not necessarily the best diet long term but I figure something is always better than nothing. Sometimes, heating the food in micro just to get it warm (and smelly) helps. There’s also the food trappers use to lure ferals—warm Kentucky Fried Chicken (little warm pieces without bones). Its not easy & very frustrating so hang in there…. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice Dee, I'm sorry your cat is having problems. Cerenia is typically Rx'd as an anti-emetic (vomiting). Some vets also Rx it for nausea even though there are better drugs to use for nausea. Each kitty is unique and Cerenia does seem to help fight nausea in some cats. Most in the FAF yahoo group give it for 4 days then take a day off. Not sure what you vet recommended. The FAF list members have found Cerenia to be a very effective and safe anti-emetic. Here is a link to a good vet article on meds used to control vomiting. The info on Cerenia is about 1/2 way down under the heading 'A new antiemetic drug for dogs'. http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=676860 Hope this helps Sharyl From: Dawn Morrison To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice My 7yr old has up till this point shown no signs of the virus. Tuesday she was acting very odd and not eating. I took her to the vet, who ran bloodwork. Her lympocytes were incredibly high, wbc was high (can't remember the numbers), she had a 104 temp. She got injections of b12, steroid, antibiotic and I was sent home with antibiotic and pain meds if needed and an appetite stimulant. Wed she wouldn't eat again so I was syringe feeding her. I have been giving her the anitbio and app stimulant. Today she started to eat on her own, although I will still syringe to make sure she's getting enough nutrients. She also has IBD but the vet said to give her whatever she'll eat at this point to at least get her wanting to eat again. We sent the bloodwork out to a lab to assure the in house results were correct, they were. My vet wants to start her on cerenia, keep her on the anitbio and the app stimulant. We're basically going to take it day by day at this point. Since she is now shedding the virus she is staying in her bedroom (which has a screen door on it) but is a little stressed that she can't come out and visit when we are home. I've been going in and visiting as much as possible but it's hard when I'm gone for most of the day. We have another kitty who we have to get tested in 2 months to see if she was exposed. If anyone has suggestions or opinions I would appreciate it. Also, has anyone used cerenia and is there anything I should know about it? Has anyone else gone through similiar experiences and can offer any advice? Thanks in advance and sorry this is so long. Dee___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Advice
Today the vet gave me prednisolone to start. She'll be on the antibiotic, the pred and the cyproheptadine. I hate this disease. Here's the rest of my post: Someone else suggested pepcid, which I thought was odd but will bring it up > to my vet. > Thanks for the food suggestions. I will try whatever I can. > This morning she was acting off again, although she did eat some dry food on > her own. It'll be a long weekend but I will do whatever I can for her. We > attempted to take her temp but that did not go so well. --- On Fri, 10/19/12, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Advice To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: "Dawn Morrison" Date: Friday, October 19, 2012, 5:30 PM after the line about Pepcid, I got a bunch of gibberish, combination of numbers and letters and symbols. what happened? Dawn Morrison wrote: > I was confused by the cerenia because she is not vomiting but my vet said > maybe she is nauseous and that could be adding to her not wanting to eat. She > did mention it's 4 or 5 days on/off. Someone else suggested pepcid, which I > thought was odd but will bring it up > to my vet. > Thanks for the food suggestions. I will try whatever I can. > This morning she was acting off again, although she did eat some dry food on > her own. It'll be a long weekend but I will do whatever I can for her. We > attempted to take her temp but that did not go so well. > > > > Friday, October 19, 2012 12:08 AM > > > > > From: > > "Christiane Biagi" > > > > To: > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > Sounds like ur vet is trying to gether to get rid of any infection. In terms > of eating, I think ur vet is right on—give her anything she’ll eat. Some > things I’ve used are Gerber stage2 ham, or turkey or beef (has no garlic or > onion—just plain); tuna “water” (from can); yogurt is good if she’ll take > it—helps with nausea/diarrhea from antibiotics. All my cats seem to devour > Fancy Feast (chicken classic)—its like catnip! Lol Basically, I go thru > refrig & try everything—cold cuts, cheese, cottage cheese—not necessarily the > best diet long term but I figure something is always better than nothing. > Sometimes, heating the food in micro just to get it warm (and smelly) helps. > There’s also the food trappers use to lure ferals—warm Kentucky Fried Chicken > (little warm pieces without bones). Its not easy & very frustrating so hang > in there…. > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Sharyl > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:33 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Advice > > > > Dee, I'm sorry your cat is having problems. Cerenia is typically Rx'd as an > anti-emetic (vomiting). Some vets also Rx it for nausea even though there > are better drugs to use for nausea. Each kitty is unique and Cerenia does > seem to help fight nausea in some cats. Most in the FAF yahoo group give it > for 4 days then take a day off. Not sure what you vet recommended. The FAF > list members have found Cerenia to be a very effective and safe anti-emetic. > > > > Here is a link to a good vet article on meds used to control vomiting. The > info on Cerenia is about 1/2 way down under the heading 'A new antiemetic > drug for dogs'. > > http://veterinarycalendar.dvm360.com/avhc/content/printContentPopup.jsp?id=676860 > > > > Hope this helps > > Sharyl > > > > > > From: Dawn Morrison > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 4:50 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Advice > > > > > > > My 7yr old has up till this point shown no signs of the virus. > > Tuesday she was acting very odd and not eating. I took her to the vet, who > ran bloodwork. > > Her lympocytes were incredibly high, wbc was high (can't remember the > numbers), she had a 104 temp. She got injections of b12, steroid, antibiotic > and I was sent home with antibiotic and pain meds if needed and an appetite > stimulant. Wed she wouldn't eat again so I was syringe feeding her. I have > been giving her the anitbio and app stimulant. Today she started to eat on > her own, although I will still syringe to make sure she's getting enough > nutrients. She also has IBD but the vet said to give her whatever she'll eat > at this point to at least get her wanting to eat again. We sent the bloodwork > out to a lab to assure the in house results were correct, they were. > > My vet wants to start he
AZT
Hello all- I once again had to take Bea to the vet for her gingivitis. She does not have stomatitis, just gingivitis. This time I was given an antibiotic of Metronidazole(new to this as well) and she also put her on Zidovudine/Azidothymidine (AZT). The AZT she said was an anti-viral. I have done some reading/research on it but I'd like to get some personal opinions. Does anyone use AZT and what are your thoughts/opinions on it. Thanks Dawn Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: AZT
Gloria, Besides the gingivitis, Bea is healthy! When I got home and started researching it I thought it sounded harsh too. The vet said it would help along with the abx to keep her gingivitis under control. The AZT is a 24 day supply. In what I've found (which is very little information) on AZT for feline use it does say it's very toxic if not used properly. The vet said she has another client who uses it and has had great success but did not elaborate and not thinking I didn't ask since I always get so overwhelmed when I'm there. I always think of questions after the fact. At this point I don't think I'm comfortable giving it to her until I can talk to the dr and get more information. Thanks Dawn Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2008 21:41:37 -0500 From: Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: AZT To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" I'm wondering, Dawn, what medically besides Gingivitis, is troubling your sweet kitty? I'm wondering if that's a rather harsh remedy for the situation...? Gloria From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:40 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: AZT > > > Hello all- > > I once again had to take Bea to the vet for her gingivitis. She does > not have stomatitis, just gingivitis. > > This time I was given an antibiotic of Metronidazole(new to this as > well) and she also put her on Zidovudine/Azidothymidine (AZT). The > AZT she said was an anti-viral. I have done some reading/research on > it but I'd like to get some personal opinions. > > Does anyone use AZT and what are your thoughts/opinions on it. > > > Thanks > > Dawn > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
Re: [Felvtalk] rescue ($) friendly vet near "Erie"
I am very familiar with the area as I'm from Erie, PA! I don't know of a vet in Erie itself but can get him the name of a vet who is VERY cheap just outside Clymer, NY if he is interested. Depending on where he lives in Erie that might be too much of a drive. You are more than welcome to pass my email address along to him. An aunt of mine uses him and has been very happy with his services. Dawn Someone on another list is looking for an inexpensive vet so that he can take in a stray he has found living outside his house in Erie. He just lost a cat to crf and took in 2 new cats from the shelter and can't afford a lot to help this new Tom who just showed up. Anyone familiar with the area? I'm in GA and have no clue where Erie even is except I suspect it's near Lake Erie. lol. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Format
Is there a way to format how we receive the posts? I find it very difficult to see where one post begins/ends. There used to be numbers in the body that corresponded with the top of the email but they aren't there anymore. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed
Thank you all for your words of advice and for informing me about the stomatitis group, I have learned a lot just from reading their posts. After hearing what everyone has said and after all the research I've done - I believe having Bea's teeth extracted will be best for her. As with any decision I just need to get past my own fears and think of what is best for her in the long run. Karen M - For as much as I trust my vet, I would not have them do the full extraction. My vet referred me to the specialist because like she said - Would you go to your family dr to have all your teeth pulled? However, it is very, very expensive - a lot more than I even thought but it's what needs to be done. Right now Bea's surgery is tentatively scheduled for Dec 4th so I will keep everyone posted. Thanks again. Dawn - Original Message - From: "Dawn Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:04 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Dental extraction - advice needed I am posting this on a few groups - so I apologize for those who see this more than once. I just want to make sure I get as much advice as possible. My FeLv+, Bea, has had recurring gingivitis since she adopted me a year ago. Her gums get red and swollen. We've tried numerous treatments (brushing,antibiotics,anti-virals,cleaning) but to no avail nothing is helping her. The anti-biotics worked but have since stopped (which has me worried on a whole other level). Other than her gum issue she is a healthy 3 year old. I took her to a dental specialist yesterday who said the best course of action at this point would be partial, possibly full extraction. He said it was stomatitis, but nothing like the pictures I've seen on it - beginning stages. I was wondering if anyone else has had either full or partial extraction done and could offer any suggestions/advice. I know it's probably the right thing to do but I'm just wondering how others have adjusted to life with no or few teeth. And if anyone has experienced any complications I should be made aware of. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed
Bea had her dental surgery on Thursday and everything went well. She did have some blood in her urine after she came to and I'll be keeping an eye on that. Because of time and 4 teeth that gave the dr a hard time only the back teeth were extracted. I wish they could have all been done but safety first. Yesterday she seemed to eat okay. She was picky on what she wanted but she was eating. Today she doesn't really want to eat. I've tried just about everything I can think of - wet adult, wet kitten even baby food (no onion/tomato) but she's just not interested. She'll take a couple of licks and that's it. I know she must be in some discomfort even with the pain meds. but I'm not sure what else to try. I have been mixing everything with some water to make sure she's at least staying somewhat hydrated. As far as I know she hasn't taken a drink from the water bowl yet. Does anyone have any suggestions on what else I might get her to eat? I know she's hungry because she'll follow me into the kitchen and sit in front of where I prepare her food normally. Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone
Sue, I am so very sorry for your loss. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sue & Frank Koren Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzz is gone Today I had to have my sweet little kitty Buzz PTS. I feel like a very large piece of me is missing. The first time I saw Buzz I fell in love with him. He was terrified, cowering between two up-ended mattresses in an unused bedroom at my brothers' house. He had been abused by neighborhood boys in an urban area where my brother used to live. When my sister in law, Lee, rescued him he was very sick, full of parasites, starving and near death. She and my brother nursed him back to physical health but he was still terrified of people. They named him Buzz Saw because of the way his claws flew whenever anyone got near him. That day Lee caught him in a blanket and handed him to me. I sat with him and gently pet him and talked to him. Within about 20 minutes he was purring. Before we left that day he reached up to me and touched noses. After about a week I talked my husband into keeping him. When I brought him home I put him into our study so he had a smaller space to get used to, and to keep him separate from the other cats. When I took him to the vet a few days later his feline leukemia test came back positive. Buzz was going to live in the study for quite a while so I filled it with cat toys and a cat tree and pretty much spoiled him as much as much as I could. Every evening I would spend hours with him. I was working on a computer project and he kept me company with that. That is how it was from January of '07 to April. At that point it was clear that keeping him separate was not working. We vaccinated the other cats for feline leukemia and released Buzzy into the rest of the house. He loved his new freedom and became every ones quiet little shadow. He loved to watch what was going on. His favorite place was a window bench that looks out on the bird feeder. At night he either slept on a ledge right behind my head or cuddled up next to me, purring. When July came I noticed that he seemed to have no energy and was not eating. When we took him to the vet the diagnosis was anemia. With heavy doses of prednesolone his health and red blood count began to come back. I was so happy watching my sweet boy gaining back his energy and appetite. While he was recuperating I would take him out to sit on the deck on my lap. He loved sniffing the outdoor smells and feeling the warm sunshine on his fur. He would sit and purr out there for as long as I could sit and hold him. In the evenings Buzzy loved to chase DaBird and the laser pointer. His blood was being tested every couple of weeks and soon it was in the normal range. We began to back off on the prednesolone. For several weeks everything was going well until the week that his blood count started going the wrong direction. I prayed that it was just the one time but unfortunately not. That horrible disease was in his bone marrow and the medication was no longer helping. For the last several weeks I watched as he became more and more lethargic. We offered him every special treat we could think of to keep him eating and he would nibble on those tidbits almost to the end. He would sit all day on his window seat and for the last week we carried him to the litter box. He always watched every move I made as I moved around the kitchen. Today when he just put his head down in exhaustion instead of watching, I knew it was time to say goodbye to my darling boy. When I took him to the vet I told him how much I have loved him and asked him to meet me at the bridge. Then he went to sleep in my arms. I will miss him so very much, but now he is in a place where there is no feline leukemia. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] After Dental extraction - what to feed
The vet dentist had never seen blood in the urine after coming to - and he's been doing this for 20+ years. He really specializes in just dental work so he asked another vet on call and they thought perhaps she might have a UTI or perhaps she has or had a stone which passed thus why there was a little blood. He said it wasn't a lot but it concerned him because he'd never seen it before. A lot or a little is concern for me. She was already going to be on Amoxy so he said to just keep an eye on her for the next couple days. She's also on buprenex for pain and she was on Medicam for inflammation (which after reading up on the Medicam I wish I hadn't give her the 2 doses I did) I wonder if the buprenex and/or amoxy are causing her to lose her appetite as well. She must be in some discomfort, I know I would be. I tried a/d yesterday and she only licked twice and was done. This morning, after trying 4 different flavors, someone suggested syringe feeding her. So I mixed some of the a/d with water and gave her some that way - she didn't even fight with me about doing it. I didn't give her a lot since I didn't really know how much would be too much/too little. A few hours later I pureed some Sheba mixed with water - she was watching me do it so I put a bowl with some of that down and she ate 1-2 tablespoons of that. I'm just happy she ate something. Now if I can just get her to drink some water but I figured if I keep mixing whatever food I give her with water, hopefully, that will be enough to keep her hydrated. Thank you for asking what KMR was, I didn't know either but think I might give that a try as well. A few people now have suggested the juice from tuna so I'll probably pick some of that up tomorrow and give that try too. It's just horrible when they don't want to eat. I go back to work tomorrow so she'll be on her own all day. I plan on leaving at least a few bowls of wet food for her and hopefully she'll have eaten something when I get home. Thanks for all your suggestions, I really appreciate it. Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Homemade Kitty Treats
Does anyone have a recipe for homemade cat treats...one that their cats actually like and will eat? Thanks Dawn ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Need Home or Foster Home, Chicago IL
Hello all, I was wondering if you knew of anyone who would be willing to take in a 2 year old FeLV+ cat I adopted. I have two other cats that I do not want to risk exposing, although I may already have. I am in the Chicago area but willing to travel to find her a good home. Any information or other groups, websites you think may help me I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469
Transferring the Virus
Hello again everyone, Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4 & 10 years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet & dry), water and liter box. It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa & IFA) We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too early to tell) and vaccinated. In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from all 3 bowls. Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened I'm passing it around more. Thanks Dawn Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
Re: Transferring the Virus
Melissa and everyone, Thanks for your input. I am still highly concerned that my 4 year old will test positive since she would immediately eat the wet food that was leftover in the food bowl the FeLV+ ate out of and she was not vaccinated at the time. Only time will tell I guess, it's going to be a long couple of months waiting for the retest. After the vaccination, I understood that they will test positive but not for very long afterwards. Our vet suggested having them retested in 6 months, she said by then we'll have a better idea if the virus has settled in their system. Yes, I am the one living near Chicago who is looking for a home for Bea. Still looking for a home for the little one if anyone knows of someone!! I am just so uncertain of keeping my positive and negatives together, I know no one knows the answer and it truly is a hard decision to make. I have heard pro and cons from both sides. I think my biggest concern is our 4 year old, she likes to play bite and Bea still have her claws. Thanks Dawn Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: Transferring the Virus
Tonya, My 4 year old was tested (-) and vaccinated when she was 6 months old. My 10 year old we inherited from family and as far as we can tell he had never been vaccinated. Immediately after we learned Bea was positive (2 weeks ago today) we took them both in and had them tested (-) and vaccinated but the vet said it would be too early to tell if they'd contracted the virus, she said it would be at least 6 months before we knew for sureand a long six months it's going to be. Dawn -- Message: 15 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:35:14 -0700 (PDT) From: catatonya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Transferring the Virus To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Have the two other cats ever been tested or vaccinated before? tonya Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello again everyone, Before I had Bea tested, she was with my two other catkids (ages 4 & 10 years) for 4 days - sharing food (wet & dry), water and liter box. It was only after that 4 days did we realize Bea tested positive (Elisa & IFA) We immediately took our other two in and had them tested (negative but too early to tell) and vaccinated. In anyone's opinion, how great of a chance do you think they will test positive in 6 months when I re-test them? Do you think there was enough exposure in those 4 days? I am particularly worried about my 4 year old because I fed them all wet food and she immediately eats anything that is leftover from all 3 bowls. Also, Bea is now quarantined in a bedroom by herself and I visit with her as much as possible when I am home - even sleeping with her at night time to give her some human contact (much to my husbands dismay). I wash my hands thoroughly when I leave the room and bea has her own bowls/water dishes that I keep seperate from my others. She has her own litter box as well. Is it possible to spread any of the virus from just walking around the room, transferring it on my clothes then walking through the rest of my house? I'm just so concerened I'm passing it around more. Thanks Dawn Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
Engystol & Quality Foods
I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said "Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is". I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/index.html
RE: Quality Foods
I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Engystol & Quality Foods To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the "raw food" diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol & Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said "Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is". I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Re: Quality Foods
I forgot to type the last line asking if anyone has suggestions on how to transfer from one dry food to the next. Thanks D - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, October 1, 2007 10:16:44 AM Subject: RE: Quality Foods I went out this weekend and purchased the Wellness Core dry and some cans of wet. Bea LOVES the wet food but wasn't all that interested in the dry. I mixed the dry kitten food she'd been eating with some of the Wellness and she still wouldn't eat it. Finally I put down a bowl of just her kitten food and she ate half the bowl, poor thing probably thought I was starving her. My husband said to just keep the mixed old kitten and new Wellness down and eventually she'll eatI'm not to sure about that. -- Message: 10 Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 14:12:34 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Engystol & Quality Foods To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My cat and kittens really love the Wellness brand wet food (reccomended by my Holistic vet). And I mean they LOVE it! They eat it as if it's one of the brands like Sheba or Fancy Feast-- they just freak out over it. You can also tell it's such a high-quality food just by the look of it and the smell...some varieties, like the adult wet formula, the one that has Lobster in it-- really smells like human food...it's crazy. It's pretty expensive though. I have my one year adult cat on Wellness adult wet and Wellness Core dry- which is Wellness's new high-protein food that is trying to take account for the "raw food" diet and translate that, as best it can, into a dry cat food. I have had this one year old cat since the end of July and she came to me (as a two-time owner surrender) as skinny, frail, tiny necked, underweight more than a kitten-than-a-cat. Already, she's packed on tons of muscle, but no extra weight. She's matured into an adult cat overnight almost and she's not longer skinny and wimpy-- she's tough and beefy and all filled-out, but she doesn't have an once of fat on her body. It's been really great to watch the transition and I do think it's all due to her diet, supplements and her happy home life. -Caroline Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:06:03 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Engystol & Quality FoodsTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I took my little 2 year old, Bea, to a holistic/hemopathetic vet last night. He said she is doing very well and doesn't show any signs of the illness - thank God! He put her on Transfer Factor Plus (which many of you had mentioned, thank you) and also Engystol. I was wondering if anyone has heard of Engystol before or are currently using it? He also gave me a very LARGE list of better quality foods wet/dry to put her on. Does anyone have a particular brand they like over another? Pros/Cons to any brands? I also wanted to share something he said to me. We were getting ready to leave and I asked if there was anything special I should do for her? He said "Yes, she doesn't know she is sick - so don't treat her like she is". I immediately burst into tears, this vet is a keeper. Thanks D Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows.Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! _ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20070928/2c14d00d/attachment.html Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/
Glands
I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I was told to keep an eye out for swollen glands in the neck of my cat. Does the FeLV effect them or is it more of an immune issue? I noticed one day they seemed a little swollen and then the next day they were fine. Thanks D __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Glands
Sally, Thank you for replying. Hope you are recovering well from your surgery. I've noticed her glands swell up just every once in a while but it concerns me when even the slightest change in her happens. I think I'll just keep an eye on them and if they're swollen for more than a couple days I'll run her to the vets. For right now it hasn't lasted for more than a day. Thanks again and take care. Dawn Message: 4 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:09:32 -0400 From: "Sally Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Glands To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" My Cat Junior always has a certain degree of swollen lymph nodes. In his case means he is fighting an infection. My first concern when I discovered them was lymphoma, so I had the vet do a needle aspiration to rule out cancer. In his case it showed inflammation and other "stuff" indication infection. He was put on antibiotics to aid him in fighting the infection. I have to go back to the tests to see what stuff is neutrophils was one thing that was found. I just got out of the hospital Friday from surgery, so I did not see where this was answered. I hope this helps. I always worry about my Junior. He has swollen glands right now and a URI, that won't go away. Sally On 10/26/07, Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I was told to keep an eye > out for swollen glands in the neck of my cat. > Does the FeLV effect them or is it more of an immune issue? > I noticed one day they seemed a little swollen and then the next day they > were fine. > > Thanks > D > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior, Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Silver, and Spike Visit my BB for some pictures post your as well. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20071029/815085f4/attachment.html End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 36 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Vet Recommendation
I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vet Reco
Diane & Lance, Thanks for the recommendations. Lance, I really liked the Cat Care Clinic website and have actually been to their website before, unfortunately, they are a bit too far for me. Dawn Message: 4 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:11:16 -0500 From: "Rosenfeldt, Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Vet Recommendation To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Dawn -- I live in Racine, WI, about 25 miles from the border. When Patches was diagnosed, our vet immediately said, "You have some options" and was willing to work with us to treat him. Unfortunately, he went downhill so fast that we really didn't have a chance to see what treatment options they were open to. If you want to check them out, email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll send you their info. Hope this helps. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dawn Morrison Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Vet Recommendation I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20071031/4372283a/attachment.html -- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:34:05 -0500 From: "Lance" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" I used to live in Madison, and always heard excellent things about the Cat Care Clinic. Definitely check out their web site to see what you think: <http://www.catcareclinic.net/> If I were to move back there, I'd definitely use them this time around. The vet Ember went to was really nice, but I think probably too traditional of a traditional vet to be aggressive about treating FeLV. Lance On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT), "Dawn Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or > Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a > vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. > I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional > vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. > I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with > them. > Referrals are always best I feel. > > Thanks > Dawn > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com -- Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] End of Felvtalk Digest, Vol 33, Issue 37 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Glands
Thanks for the info. Bea is underweight (although I am fattening her up as much as possible) so finding the slightest lump on her would be easy to find. She is also a luv-bug. I'm always worried about the littlest thing with her and I guess rightly so. Dawn Message: 2 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:43:17 -0400 From: Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Glands To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My guess would be that they want you too keep a close look out for early signs of Lymphoma. But like Sally says below, a swollen lymph node can be a sign of a treatable infection too. Lymph nodes can swell easily when they are doing their "job" and working to fight off an infection- anything from a URI, to a bladder infection. They can be especially palpable in an slightly underweight cat. I myself get noticeably swollen lymph nodes when I have certain infections and I've had it checked out by doctors and it's just kind of how my body works. So it just sounds like your vet just wants you to be vigilant (which I think is a good thing for a vet to tell you)- but he/she should have explained the "why." Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but my vet told me that Lymphoma is the most common form of cancer in cats and dogs period...regardless of whether your cat is Felv+. However, lymphoma is also the most common form of cancer for an Felv+ cat (and I think this is kind of why it's like Felv+ cats have so many strikes against them...that's two right there). Unfortunately, lymphoma is what my Felv+ Monkee got. I found a lump on the back of his leg around Easter this past year. I found it really quickly because I was always touching him (he was my love-bug!), but it was pretty large. It was a swollen lymph node, they did a needle biopsy and found Lymphoma. We did chemo (which, given the chance again, I probably would not go that route- I can discuss that another time if need be, but I won't go into it now). We eventually had the lump surgically removed because even after a few rounds of chemo, it actually grew in size. Monkee then came down with anemia and he died in July. So, I'm not saying this is the route your cat(s) will take at all, I just think your vet wants you to be vigilant in looking for signs of an infection or possible lymphoma. If you find a swollen lymph node, or any kind of lump on an Felv+ cat, I recommend calling your vet asap. I hope this helps. Caroline K. Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:09:32 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: Glands My Cat Junior always has a certain degree of swollen lymph nodes. In his case means he is fighting an infection. My first concern when I discovered them was lymphoma, so I had the vet do a needle aspiration to rule out cancer. In his case it showed inflammation and other "stuff" indication infection. He was put on antibiotics to aid him in fighting the infection. I have to go back to the tests to see what stuff is neutrophils was one thing that was found. I just got out of the hospital Friday from surgery, so I did not see where this was answered. I hope this helps. I always worry about my Junior. He has swollen glands right now and a URI, that won't go away. Sally On 10/26/07, Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was wondering if anyone could tell me why I was told to keep an eye out for swollen glands in the neck of my cat. Does the FeLV effect them or is it more of an immune issue? I noticed one day they seemed a little swollen and then the next day they were fine. Thanks D__ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Vet Recommendation
Wendy, Thanks for all the information you've found for me, I really do appreciate it. I did get a reco from Diane R for a vet close to me and a few others from friends of friends of friends as I've passed the word around. Thanks to everyone! Dawn Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Dawn, You might consider reposting this question with Chicago/S.Wisconsin in the subject line along with vet recommendation. It might catch someone's attention who might otherwise not read the post since a lot of people scan posts. I'm in Texas so don't know of any, but I hope you are able to find a good vet! :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!"~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM Subject: Vet Recommendation I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20071101/c2e570fd/attachment.html -- Message: 3 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:19:52 -0700 (PDT) From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: To Dawn Re: Vet Recommendation To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey Dawn, I searched the archives for 'Chicago' and found the info below. It's from Kerry, who I consider a trusted member of this group, and has been here on and off for at least two years: Belinda--I'm sorry to hear about yr friend's bad experience. Awful, but it doesn't surprise me any more. I've used Drs Dodin and Dr Rovner for years and trust and like them both. They were at Higgins till recently and have both left (owner is a jerk-- tell your friend to avoid Dr Humphrey Roberts, the owner of Higgins). Also tell her to avoid McKillips Animal Hospital, and the Mayfair clinic.) But tell me where your friend lives and when I get back (22nd) I'll see if I can help further with nearer clinics. Kerry Dr Dodin can be contacted at Abell Animal Hospital, 773 631 6727. Scott Rovner, owner of Roscoe Village Animal Hospital, 3131 N Clybourn (almost next door to Emergency Clinic) tel 773 549 3131. Problem: his clinic is very new, and still a work-in-progress, and he may not be available every day. Another housecall vet I've not used but that comes very highly recommended by a close friend who had to have her dog PTS. Dr Alisse Mawrence, 773 575 7387. She does evenings and weekends too. But she can take some time to respond -- she also works at Chicago Emergency Services. Doctor Teuber at Higgins, 1705 W. Belmont (Paulina & Belmont), tel: 773 525 0472. I've only seen her once (yesterday) but i liked her. She was easy to talk to and responsive to ideas. - Original Message - From: "Belinda Sauro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:33 AM Subject: Re: July 5 update on Flavia >Kerry when you get back from your trip, I would really like to know > what > vets you have seen, I just had a friend move to Chicago and she has > had > some horro experiences finding a vet she can trust. > > -- > Belinda > Happiness is being owned by cats ... Hi all You may remember I sent out an email last week about a bad vet clinic in Chicago, McKillips. I sent the same email to a PAWS counsellor in Chicago, and she left me a message saying she'd never had a"good feeling" about that clinic, and went on to say that people who had adopted a PAWS cat in the past recently took the cat to McKillips. The problem was "blockage"--and McKillips recommended, and then carried out, removal of the cat's penis. Has anyone heard of
Re: Vet Recommendation
Barb - Thanks for all your research. The Cat Clinic was suggested from someone else as well, unfortunately they are a bit too far for me. Dawn Message: 1 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 14:25:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM. They are fabulous. One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information about potential treatments etc. here's their website and #/email http://catcareclinic.net/ 608-238-2287 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM Subject: Vet Recommendation I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20071102/ed3350ea/attachment.html -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 16:24:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" here's another thought - look here for vets closer to you - this is the link to the American Association of Feline Practitioners http://www.aafponline.org/ Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Barb Moermond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 2, 2007 4:25:24 PM Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation I use the Cat Care Clinic here in Madison and LOVE THEM. They are fabulous. One of the vets has had FeLV+ kits of her own (I don't know if she does right now) and they are all very open to patient parents' bringing in information about potential treatments etc. here's their website and #/email http://catcareclinic.net/ 608-238-2287 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous - Original Message From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:56:26 AM Subject: Vet Recommendation I was wondering if anyone lived in the Far Northern Chicago area or Southern Wisconsin area (I live on the border of IL & WI) that knows of a vet that is familiar and treats FeLV. I found a holisitc vet who I am happy with but would like a traditional vet. My current one doesn't deal much with FeLV. I've spoken to a few others and have not been overly comfortable with them. Referrals are always best I feel. Thanks Dawn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments/20071102/bd29af6f/attachment.html -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 05:32:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Dawn Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Vet Recommendation To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wendy, Thanks for all the information you've found for me, I really do appreciate it. I did get a reco from Diane R for a vet close to me and a few others from friends of friends of friends as I've passed the word around. Thanks to everyone! Dawn Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 06:02:21 -0700 (
Dental Issues and Maintenance Antibiotics
I took Bea to the vet last week when I noticed her breath was just horrible - more than just canned fish food smell and that her gums were very red. I hadn't noticed it much before and she'd been eating just find. The vet said that her immune system is not breaking down the bacteria from the plaque/food on her teeth but he did note her teeth did not have much on them - he managed to scrape some off actually, all the while noting how well she was tolerating it! Her gums were just as red as could be and swollen just along the tooth/gum line. He put her on a course of Clavamox for a week and I take her back this Saturday for a check-up. She's so irritated with me giving her the meds I haven't been able to get in there and look at her gums but haven't noticed the bad breath smell anymore. My question is this...has anyone else had similar experiences good or bad, something that has worked/not worked with this type of dental problem? I know she's prone to dental problems being FeLV+ My next question is regarding maintenance antibiotics. The vet mentioned if it cleared up on the Clavamox that perhaps keeping her on an antibiotic might be what she needs. I have reservations about keeping her on something long term, especially antibiotics. Any thoughts on this? Thanks Dawn Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/
EVO Coupon
Hi everyone, I received two coupons from Natura Pet Products (Evo) when I asked for a sample of their dry food for Bea. Which by the way they won't send out samples, got one from a local pet store. But it turns out Bea is not at all interested in their dry food anyway. So I have two coupons that I'd hate to go to waste - $5 off and $3 off any bag or case of cans. If anyone is interested please let me know. Thanks Dawn Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
Re: EVO Coupon
Hi Laurie, You were the first to respond, so I will send them in the mail to you tomorrow. Dawn Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 36, Issue 35
Susan, Can I ask flavor/brand toothpaste you are using? Bea constantly has a case of inflammed gums. I've had her on 3 different courses of Clavamox and Prednisone, that seems to help for a while and then it starts up again. I've attempted to brush her teeth. She loves to play with the toothbrush I got her but the minute I pick it up and walk towards her she starts to stress out...and she clamps her mouth shut so tight I can barely pry it open - thus causing more stress. I've tried a couple toothpastes but she's just not interested in anything to do with me touching her teeth...I'm willing to take any suggestions. Thanks Dawn Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:53:36 -0600 From: "Susan Ang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Brushing Teeth To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In December, Autumn developed bad breath. I checked her mouth and her gums looked inflamed and a few of her teeth were yellowy. After Christmas, we went to PetSmart and got her a little red tooth brush and malt flavored paste. I expected a bit of a fight, but she loves the flavor and runs to get her teeth brushed every night. She doesn't like the brushing so much as licking the paste off the brush, but I am able to get some good, light scrubbing in. So far: no more bad breath and her gums look healthy. I don't know if anyone else had success with this? We also use tartar control treats. I don't usually post because I'm a FeLV noob! However, I've learned a lot from this list and thought I'd post this since it worked well for Autumn. ~Susan A. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
RE: Brushing Teeth
Susan, Can I ask flavor/brand toothpaste you are using? Bea constantly has a case of inflammed gums. I've had her on 3 different courses of Clavamox and Prednisone, that seems to help for a while and then it starts up again. I've attempted to brush her teeth. She loves to play with the toothbrush I got her but the minute I pick it up and walk towards her she starts to stress out...and she clamps her mouth shut so tight I can barely pry it open - thus causing more stress. I've tried a couple toothpastes but she's just not interested in anything to do with me touching her teeth...I'm willing to take any suggestions. Thanks Dawn Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:53:36 -0600 From: "Susan Ang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Brushing Teeth To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In December, Autumn developed bad breath. I checked her mouth and her gums looked inflamed and a few of her teeth were yellowy. After Christmas, we went to PetSmart and got her a little red tooth brush and malt flavored paste. I expected a bit of a fight, but she loves the flavor and runs to get her teeth brushed every night. She doesn't like the brushing so much as licking the paste off the brush, but I am able to get some good, light scrubbing in. So far: no more bad breath and her gums look healthy. I don't know if anyone else had success with this? We also use tartar control treats. I don't usually post because I'm a FeLV noob! However, I've learned a lot from this list and thought I'd post this since it worked well for Autumn. ~Susan A. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: Brushing Teeth
Susan & Laurie, Thanks. I will have to try the Petrodex Malt Flavor. I have the CET seafood flavor and I think a poultry flavored one. Bea doesn't like either - she always gives me a look like I'm trying to poison her. I tried what the Cornell website suggested on teeth brushing, didn't work. It's gingivitis. I don't think it's stomatitis, at least the dr never mentioned stomatitis. I didn't know about it until I read some posts so I did some research and her gums/mouth look nothing like the pictures I've seen on it. The Clavamox/Prednisone treatment clears it up but usually in a months time it'll flare up again. I'm actually going to call in another round of treatment but a little nervous about keeping her on antibiotics. The vet did mention full extraction but only as a last resort and it's not something I want to put her though if I can avoid it. Thanks again. Dawn -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 16:09:54 -0600 From: "Susan Ang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Toothpaste Brand To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dawn, I use Petrodex Enzymatic Toothpaste in Malt flavor on Autumn. Autumn loves it so much that she chased me down when I went to check the brand. I started her out by letting her lick the paste off the brush and then flipped her upside down in my lap and used the brush on her. From what I've read, you only have to worry about the outside of the teeth and the gums so if you can get the lips apart you can lightly scrub the teeth with the paste. Also the little brush that comes with the paste is wedge shaped so you can gently force their teeth apart for quick scrubs in the back. Another sneaky mommy trick that I used was to get her to bat at and attack the brush and when she bit it or opened her mouth I could pop in for a quick cleaning. That doesn't work as well as it used too - she knows. =^._.^= They say to brush for about 30 seconds and to always stop while it's still fun and not too stressful. I also reward her for good behavior with a couple of hard, tartar control treats after the brushing for positive re-enforcement. the package says to do it 3 times a week, but I do it every day so I can have a cumulative effect and I can cut things short, if she's particularly uncooperative. Also this was the best way to get her used to the routine. When I started she had red gums, bad breath, and seemed to be having a hard time with hard food, but now her mouth looks very healthy. Good luck! ~Susan A. Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:50:34 -0600 From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Brushing Teeth To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dawn, have been out of town so may have missed some discussion. Does she have gingivits or stomatitis? We had to give one kitty an antibiotic the first 5 days of each month and that controlled her stomatitis, after she had some teeth pulled. We use the poultry flavored C.E.T. here. They lick it off the tiny brushes I use. There are instructions for how to brush..and starting slowly... If I can find them, I'll send the link. (thanks for the EVO coupons, btw). Laurie - Original Message - From: Dawn Morrison To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:38 AM Subject: RE: Brushing Teeth Susan, Can I ask flavor/brand toothpaste you are using? Bea constantly has a case of inflammed gums. I've had her on 3 different courses of Clavamox and Prednisone, that seems to help for a while and then it starts up again. I've attempted to brush her teeth. She loves to play with the toothbrush I got her but the minute I pick it up and walk towards her she starts to stress out...and she clamps her mouth shut so tight I can barely pry it open - thus causing more stress. I've tried a couple toothpastes but she's just not interested in anything to do with me touching her teeth...I'm willing to take any suggestions. Thanks Dawn Message: 8 Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:53:36 -0600 From: "Susan Ang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Brushing Teeth To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In December, Autumn developed bad breath. I checked her mouth and her gums looked inflamed and a few of her teeth were yellowy. After Christmas, we went to PetSmart and got her a little red tooth brush and malt flavored paste. I expected a bit of a fight, but she loves the flavor and runs to get her teeth brushed every night. She doesn't like the brushing so much as licking the paste off the brush, but I am able to
Re: Sweet Buzz / Tucker
Sue, May I ask you about your cat Tucker and having to have all his teeth removed. My Bea is FeLV + I've been battling the same thing as Tucker - because of her FeLV status, she can't fight the bacteria on her teeth. I've been doing almost monthly courses of Clavamox/Prednisone. I've been brushing her teeth but that doesn't seem to be helping much. My vet suggested as a last resort full extraction. Did you do any meds prior to the extraction? or have any advice/suggestions? On a side note about Buzz and keeping him in a room by himself. I adopted Bea 4 months ago and after spending 4 days with my other 2 cats we found out she was +. I struggled with keeping her in a room by herself or finding her a home where she could be free to roam. I did look some but in the end I knew she was best right where she was. She already knew me, had a routine and I already loved her. So now she lives in our spare bedroom (with all the amenities) which we put a cheap wooden screen door on so she can see and hear everything that is going on in our house. I do let her out of the room everyday for an hour or so with surpervised visits, although I am not suggesting mixing + & -'s it's just a personal decision I made. Dawn , : "Sue & Frank Koren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Sweet Buzz To: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you for your advise about Buzz, and I am so very sorry about your Brumley. What an aching empty place they leave in your heart when they are gone! It sounds like he couldn't have been in a better place for his last months, though. I just joined this group and I think the first thing I have learned is not to read these e-mails at work. I sat at my desk this afternoon with tears rolling down my face when I read about Brumley. Buzz is here with me in my computer room right now. He enjoys laying on my arm while I am trying to type. I have set the room up like a cat playground with loads of toys, a chair by the window, a place to scratch and of coarse his food tray and litter box. Even so he cries when he is left in here and it breaks my heart. I bring him out and hold him often in the rest of the house and I can see that he wants to get down and play with the other cats. I am afraid to let him mingle with the others even if they are older cats. Charlie is my big dumb dark grey boy. He loves everyone that comes near him, human and cat. He loves to lick the other cats. If a cat could bounce along going doit de doy de doy with a huge smile on his face, that would be Charlie. He has asthma and for several months last year he had a lot of trouble with the feline herpes virus in his eyes. Tucker is about the same age as Charlie (7). He recently had to have all his teeth removed because his immune system was attacking the bacteria on his teeth. He also gets spells where he acts drunk (the vet calls it a vestibular episode). They only last for about a half hour and the vet has said to give him vitamin B1. Because of these problems I am afraid that they might have problems fighting off the FeLV virus. Thank you for the advise about food, I will look into feeding Buzz something that is better. Right now he gets IAMS dry food for indoor cats, and I heard that spring water is good for FeLV + cats, so he gets that also. I still think he would be happiest in a home where he could roam the whole house and maybe be with other cats, but in the meantime I intend to do everything for him that I can. I am not the best at computers, so if I am doing this incorrectly, I apologize and please feel free to correct me. Thank you, Sue - Original Message - From: Caroline Kaufmann To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: RE: Sweet Buzz I agree with everything Lance said. I foster kittens and also have regular house cats and the fosters have a room- my bedroom which is actually 2 rooms put together-- that they live in. As long as they have their clean environment (which I have to keep clean because it's my room!) and play and affection, they are fine with it. Eventually, the ones I end up keeping may be integrated into being house cats, but I've been doing it this way for months and it's fine. A lot of people on this list- or more so formerly on this list- have FELV+ rooms. Many people even mix them because the transmission rate is very low- much lower than you would think- and vets have differing opinions on this (so do owners of FELV cats). I had an FELV cat and he was my only cat for the 4 years I had him but I made that choice because he hated other cats (and that is probably why he had FELV to begin with- he was a "fighter"!) and I was so obsessed with him that I didn't want to expose him to any run-of-the-mill diseases that another cat could have that he maybe wouldn't be able to fight off as well b/c of his FELV. But I have
