Re: Oh my Goodness!/Susan-Percy
Susan, I absolutely LOVE Percy [As a "name"] And you are so right w/ your comment about Percy having many other names!!! I know, with my own purr-sonal experiences, both at home & at shelter, all babies have their own purr-sonal list of names we go by..And what's absolutely amazing, and awesome, they all seem to respond to "their name at that specific moment". They are so ever smart & perspective... When people stop by house & inquire about their names, I, of course, reel out the whole list for each one!!! Of course, never fails, I get "that look" & tons of questions, mostly like "why" Fluffy or Tom wouldn't suffice Guess you must be a genuine critter person to understand, huh? [ Or, A CRAZY CAT LADY, which I've also been called.. NEVER to my face though. Go figure! ] Looks like you will have to put more dishes out.. I'm with you on that thought, 'as long as they're eating!' Even my ferals got Evo.No complaints there. But, w/ my dear, ancient Puma, those Elegant Medleys from Fancy Feast, I really believe they certainly saved, at least, really helped my boy along. Along w. meat baby food, & "people tuna And, I was able to add supplements, so we all were happy. I too, absolutely love those big-headed FIV boys And, I swear, w/ all my years in rescue, B-I-G FIV+ boys hold a special place in my heart They're such LOVE MUFFINS!!! And, sadly. due to lack of adequate information available, too often overlooked!! Til the day I die, I will always believe "EDUCATION IS THE KEY" Need [many] more people out there at least "attempting" to educate!!! Prior to my MVA, I made a point to get out no less than 1X week to do what I could handing out brochures, pamphlets, etc. at a local [major] pet shoppe, one who would not sell companion animals, but rather encouraged adoptions from shelters (In fact, several times a year, they engaged in "employee incentive" programs. and, our shelter benefited, VERY nicely I must add, from their employee incentive programs...) Oh, I've rambled again. Much love to your [very fortunate] Percy and the rest of your babies...And, blessings for all the work you've done...I pray that you can continue for a VERY LONG time. [I'm just fortunate I had been able to do so much prior to my MVA] One must always remember that sometimes life isn't a bed of roses. It can, and sadly does, throw some pretty mean curves along the path Never take any day for grantedOne NEVER knows what the future holds Words from a woman who knows only TOO well... Hugs, Patti & her gang ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: Suzie crossed the bridge/ Lucky Lady - Kelley
In a message dated 6/28/07 3:53:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, he euthanized Lucky Lady at noon Kelley, I am so very, very sorry. (And, sincerely too. I know I don't always say/write things people want to hear/read...) But, please know, you are in my thoughts & prayers. With all the fur-angels.. Hugs, (Big Mouth) Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Suzie crossed the bridge
In a message dated 6/28/07 2:49:04 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When a vet says a cat is positive for FIP he is wrong, he may be positive and with high titers for the corona viruses that are suspected to cause FIP but that doesn't in most cases mean he has FIP. THANK YOU, BELINDA MY FEELINGS EXACTLY! (And, I strongly believe w/ all my heart, that my Puma does not have FIP. ) Also, I believe he does have high titers for corona. He!!, I rescued him from a nasty [putting it mildly ] high kill shelter And, the poor 'ole boy didn't even stand a chance!!! He was immediately put on "Death Row" - only because of his seniority! G. I'm just so happy I had "connections" with the rescue community! [Just wish I still could be able to "save" more like my boy. I have nightmares about all the poor babies that face that horrific dilemma..] The toxo diagnosis I do believe. And, he recovered 101%. But when I "questioned" my vet on the FIP, well, let's just say, deep down, he knew I was right about the only accurate diagnosis is thru necropsy Oh, and MC, I am with you... So [too] much misinformation floating around And, I too am at that point - Seems like people want to believe all that garbage. (At a point, even me Having had an FIP epidemic w/ my fosters! ) Much thanks & hugs, Patti & her gang [INCLUDING PUMA A "MIRACULOUS RECOVERY" Wasn't aware that FIP could last this long - on a very, very senior boy!!! Now I can stop kicking myself in a$$} ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Suzie crossed the bridge
Dear Kelley, I'm sitting here in tears, my heart is breaking for you - And, I "tried" to respond to your other post (THREE TIMES!!!) but we had a severe "heat-induced" storm, and every time I was just about ready to send it, THE POWER WENT OFF!! I was so very concerned about your losses and the whole FIP [and toxo] thing.. My dear, sweet, ancient Puma was diagnosed with BOTH And, thru BW only And, I am "old school" & must agree w/ the other replys about FIP only can be confirmed w/ a necropsy. (And, trust me, I know only too well. I won't get into ALL details now [inappropriate], but I did lose two of my own [while fostering MANY - and my guys were NEVER w/ the fosters] And, my Oden, only 3, did pass due to FIP - confirmed thru necropsy.(After Magpie's [foster kitten] passing..) And, yes, it was a [foster] kitten [just 3 months old] who died first. [FIP - confirmed also thru necropsy. Actually, the first necropsy. Shelter director insisted.] Glad, sort of, that she did. But, that's when I had an FIP epidemic in my house.. So, I had all fosters tested, BW only, but NOT my own babies. I figured, "What's the sense? They were never exposed, in the same area, separate dishes, etc. to Magpie or any of my other fosters." Now, w/ Puma, I'm kicking myself in a$$! Suggestion - Is there any shelters close that would do a necropsy? Reason I ask is because our shelter always did any kind of veterinary services, no questions asked. And, w/ your history, I really can't see a problem. Again, I would attempt to reply to your other post, but, I'm crying my yes out, and being "visually impaired", that's a real problem. Please know, you are in my prayers Much love & hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Now i've got something of a dilemma
Cassandra, Whew! That is a dilemma! But, as you already stated, that "if" you do take Mom & kits, they definitely will have a much better chance at life - having a home, being loved.. They definitely won't have any of that at farm. (UGH!! FARMS & the "mentality" of some .. Living in the heart of Pa., I know, sadly, only too well about the plight of those poor babies) Speaking from my own, first-hand [latest] experience, although Charity was "dumped" outside here w/ Timmy & Thomas, just wee babies - only a little more than a week old @ time She was really not trusting w/ people, not that I could or ever will blame her. She "escaped" from box, leaving babies behind... I bottle fed the boys, and when I finally did re-trap her, well, she wouldn't have a thing to do with her babies.. I did have her spayed, tested [negative both!], and vaccinated prior to her "escape"... And, as everyone who followed her story on list here, she remained "feral" [w/ Black Bart] until this past Feb. Sadly, I did lose both of them... But, Charity made such remarkable changes - She finally knew love & gave me her absolute trust - A PURE JOY I was able to adopt Thomas out to a wonderful family, but Timmy has made it purr-fectly clear "THIS IS HIS FUR-EVER HOME!!! Oh, chrimminy, I don't know exactly what I'm trying to say... I "think", what I'm saying is, sometimes, when you least expect it, miracles happen. And, yes, being there for those poor souls, when they desperately need help, well, yes, that IS a miracle I know how you've only too recently lost your babies, and, I know, sadly too well, that you really need time to grieve. That said, the "timing" of Mama & babies is off, BUT. BELIEVE IN MIRACLES! Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Tomi has joined Kisa and Koda
Dear Cassandra, Please know that I am sending my deepest sympathy to you & your husband. What a heart breaking time you have had... Words can't even convey my feelings for your losses... Much love, Patti ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Thank you for your kind words
Wendy, I believe it was me who wrote you off-list.. No worry, I am not offended in the least,, And, I have not been on-line for awhile, so I did not see your original post seeking reply. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Tomi is worse off than I thought
Cassandra, I am so very saddened with all you have "dealt" with your precious babies. And, I apologize [sincerely] for not sending you my condolences for your loss of Kisa. But, please know.she was in my prayers, along with all the other babies, both w/ illness or passing... It's just very difficult for me to see to read all posts, and sit at PC.Never-the-less, I try to either get on PC, or have my room mate read me posts And, please, don't blame yourself for spending most of your time/energy w/ Kisa & perhaps neglecting your Tomi I did the same exact thing when I [suddenly] lost my Charity.. Blamed myself for "missing" something because, in all truthfulness, my Puma has been my main concern since his diagnosis, along w/ his age, 17+. And, I still look back "wondering" if Charity was showing some [any] signs that I over-looked... I think, maybe, I'm finally coming to the point that she wasn't showing symptoms, and she passed, just like Black Bart, due to FIP. Bart was her constant companion while she was still an outdoor feral And, when he got very ill, she came to me to her [our] boy.But Bart was so ill.many symptoms, & when I did confine him, prior to getting him to vet,well, he was eating, drinking - even loving! But, just like Charity, suddenly, he gave up on food, became listlessbut still showed loving to me I'm just so relieved I was able to get him to vet in 2 days, and, when the exam was done, a likely diagnosis given, the way he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes, I KNEW HE WAS THANKING ME, AND ASO LETTING ME KNOW. "TT'S OK MOM TO ASSIST W/ MY PARTING..." So, sadly I did have him PTS I'll never forget his eyes, they "say" so much... And Charity became such a love-muffin, but only w/ me. She was doing so well, so when she went downhill so very fast, I just couldn't believe it!!! And, of course, I blamed myself because I needed some/any explanation I guess because that feral girl stole my heat & I gained her trust... And you're so right about the list members here - caring, compassionate & so very knowlegable They are always there for one another.. And as far as other humans, all I am going to say is I prefer my babies, and ALL critters way more than people,,, A lot has to do w/ al I've seen them do in all my years of rescue... Anyway, your husband sounds magnificent!! So, again know, your Tomi is [still] in my prayers. And I'm so very sorry about Kisa's passing. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: condolences
In a message dated 6/13/07 8:30:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For Charity, Kisa, Jet and Nookie and to those who loved them 'rest in peace' All members, please know that I have had all these babies [and guardians] in my thoughts & prayers. And, my sincere apologies for not acknowledging their passing & sending my sympathy to all. (It's on my L-O-N-G list of things I want/need to do...) Everyone was so compassionate about my Charity, and I haven't even been able to give my heartfelt thanks individually. I just wanted to take this time to also offer my sincere condolences to everyone that had their baby pass.(Too many, too soon..) And, most importantly, give everyone my deepest, most sincere "thanks" for responding about me losing my Charity. I was (still am) in such a heartbroken state of mind, and all the responses helped me more than I can say. Once again, I must tell all on this list, you are absolutely the most understanding, loving & compassionate people I've ever "known" - Not to forget, knowledgeable.. So, again, you are all in my thoughts, and thank you all for always being there. (Just wish I could be more active in participation, etc.) Hugs, Patti & her gang . ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Charity (Crossed The Bridge)- Heartfelt Thanks & Update
In a message dated 6/11/07 4:02:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Take
care of yourself and treat yourself to that slice of
cheesecake or a hot bath or whatever brings a smile to
your face. Charity would like that.
Dear Wendy & ALL the wonderful, compassionate, supportive, et al list
members,
It's Tuesday now and I have not been online [too much "other" stuff-
devastated mainly]
Just wanted to let you all know [again], this group is so, so
wonderful.. I know I'll never leave...
I want to give thanks for all the "suggestions" on what to do w/ Charity's
remains When all of a sudden you're faced w/ such a tragedy, your mind goes
blank.. And, since MVA my mind doesn't "function"
My room mate was absolutely a god-send And, he didn't even "like" my
girl, thought I was crazy for taking her in...(Poor girl only liked me, she
was
nasty w/ everyone else.) Can't blame her though, not one bit. (Being
"taped" in a cardboard box w/ her babies ) After that, was it any wonder
she
despised humans??? I know, with all I've seen, I definitely prefer critters
over humans.
I couldn't get a cooler, but thank heavens we live in a real old home.My
room mate wrapped her {gently] very well and he put her remains down in the
basement..And, being such an old house, the basement has stone walls,
also, a crawlspace - which is where he placed her. And, it was HOT, but the
basement [always] remains cool
So, yesterday, Monday, I [we] took her to vet for cremation. And, when I
get her remains back, she will be [back] w/ her [our] Bart again.
She was such a loving girl - when I "earned" her trust when she came to me
to help Bart When she realized I DID help her [our] Bart, the change in her
behavior was unbelievable And, gaining "trust" is so wonderful I
can't even express just how I felt (Bart & Charity both put their trust
in me And, that meant more than I can ever express).
I absolutely loved my Charity, and knowing that she loved me is..
WONDERFUL!!! AMAZING
I'm just so heartbroken she passed at such a young age. But, I can take
comfort knowing at the end, she finally knew she was much loved
I really believe it was FIP. Being together w/ Bart, well.
And, I have the comfort remembering cuddling her & holding her right before
she passed I'll NEVER forget that!
And Wendy, as far as "taking care of myself", well, being a vegan,
cheesecake is out. {I DO make tofu cheesecake, but I'm just not into baking, or
any
cooking right now]. And yes, I did take a bath... but you know what I
did,
that seemed to get almost all my "feelings" outWashed ALL my windows,
curtains, put diff. curtains up in all my windows But, you know what???
It really, really helped me "deal"
Go ahead, call me crazy.
Much love & thanks to EVERYONE
Hugs,
Patti & her gang
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Re: Charity (Crossed The Bridge)
Dear Sheila, Once again - thank you for your kind words. I can't even begin to express just how much comfort this group has [always] given me. The whole reason I continue to belong..Every member has always been so compassionate... VERY supportive also... I really pray that Charity will meet up w/ your Charlie Brown & Oscar And all the others [way too many] that also crossed. I'm still mortified about the ordeal - Charity was young, healthy, [or so I thought] and had come around to be one of the sweetest [feral] fur babies I'd ever encountered... And, doing rescue, there were [too] many, sadly. I was always told I had a special "gift" working w/ feralsTurned around so well, many got adopted. In fact, even though I loved my girl, our last conversation [Yes, I DO talk to all my babies...] was just about that I told her that not all humans are evil and "if" she could trust someone, again, she'd be a marvelous addition to a family (NOT that I'd adopt her out, but the reality w/ rescue is you can't keep them all...Just wish I could..) Her baby, Timmy, IS still here & definitely won't be going anywhere else!! He was adopted when I was [still] in hospital, but made it purr-fectly clear he wasn't happy!!! Thank heavens for adoption contracts And, out of ALL my babies, Timmy gave me the biggest, most loving "Welcome Home Mom!!!". (One of my dogs, Lucy[fer] wouldn't even come near me! Or "allow" me to get near her Snarled, growled, kept her distance & probably would have bit me, that is "if" she knew how! She's a "problem child" & I adopted her after MANY adoptions did not go well, and that's putting it "mildly". We bonded immediately, when she was "returned' to shelter when her first/original guardian died.[And, she had been adopted out while she was a puppy, about 8 years old when "returned". D--b kids.Didn't want to do anything for her!! Her age, grief - Is it any wonder why she became a "problem child"?] At first she was "snippy, etc.", but I made a point to gain her trust & let her know she was loved [again]. And, it worked I was completely devastated every time she was adopted[Should have been happy, but we had bonded...] It's the "bonding" that makes it so wonderful...I really believe I'm the only human that can live w/ her) Oh, boy have I gotten OT. But, it is therapeutic..[And do I ever need therapy now] I just wanted to thank you & let you know that you are also in my daily prayers, along w/ the rest of the members of this fantastic list! [Being housebound, disabled, etc., my PC is my saving grace] Hugs, thanks & much love [TO ALL!!!] Patti & her gang [my life, my reason for still existing...] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Charity (Crossed The Bridge)
I don't know just "how" I can even write this, but my Charity DID
cross.. I can only pray it was peaceful.. But, w/ her pitiful crying, I
know
she was in pain.
And, someone [sorry, memory is shot] mentioned getting a cab But,
since I moved, my [wonderful] vet is in Md., & I'm in a small town in Pa. With
NO cab service...
It all happened so [too] fast, I am in shock, besides myself.. Don't
know "what" to do...
And, trust me, I DID try contacting many people...As far as "house
calls", well, no one was available. They all said "Wait 'til
Monday"..Yeah,
sure. I deep down inside, knew Monday would be too late BUT, I DID
pray for a miracle.. Didn't want to give up...
I can only be glad that she finally had a home & knew she was very much
loved..{Lot of solace that brings me now]
And, it's Saturday, HOT & I want to have her cremated & vet's not in til
Moday.And, I also don't have a trunk freezer for her remains.. Can't
get
any worse...
And, being up w/ her the whole time, I'm just too devastated to even "try"
to get some rest..
Thank you ALL for your prayers & suggestions.[This list has the BEST people.
so caring. understanding.The MAIN reason I never "left" after losing my
Ethan]
I did write Belinda for the CLS separately
Have to go. With my "vision problems" & with all these tears, I can't see
at all now..
Much love, with tears,
Patti & her [remaining] gang
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PLEASE Pray for my Charity....
As most of you remember, Charity ["feral" mom dumped w/ babies] & I have a
long & controversial history.. [She got out of taped-up box, so I had
Timmy & Thomas as bottle babies. ]
I was able to trap her, but she "escaped" while I was cleaning her crate
[post spaying thank heavens]. I decided not to re-trap her since I had a
special
area for ALL the strays/ferals here. And, also, she had me in ER so many
times... Clearly, she disliked humans, and after being tossed out like
trash
I couldn't blame her. I believed she had been somebody's cat once upon a
time & when she had babies, well, they DUMPED them (Education IS the
key. Spay/Neuter all your babies)
So, I believed as long as she always had food & shelter [here], it would be
less stressful than trying to re-trap her. And, she had her constant
companion, Black Bart
However, life can change so fast...
I had my MVA, my room mate was NOT tending my stray/feral area & when I
finally got home from hosp., o my way to Dr. I saw Charity running across the
very heavily traveled, busy road I live on So, despite all my "handicaps"
I made a promise right then that I would tend to my stray/feral area... Even
opened up the barn so they could get indoors when weather turned bad..
So, I was very concerned about the cats I'd been tending to, but, I managed
to "hobble" out to barn area to feed & water, put "fresh" bedding out, etc.
(And barn is W-A-Y back in yard, never a problem before MVA, but after, well,
it's very difficult for me to get there) But, da_n it, I made a promise
to these "lost souls"..
I was thrilled when I saw Charity & Bart back in the area.. Made me even
more determined to get out there so they wouldn't wander & get killed on the
road..
Which I did. But, the snow and ice this winter really made it even more
difficult.. But, despite my problems, I kept barn open, re-insulated
spots,
etc. NOT EASY, but I somehow managed to get it done.
After all, I made a promise
So, one snowy night early Feb.. while I was out walking my Rottie,
[Lady]Bug, who's bigger than me no less, lo & behold, guess who stalks me
out?
Miss Charity Now mind you, Bug is deaf, I'm almost blind [great
combination, huh?]... I heard this pitiful plea, couldn't see "who" it
was,
but Bug, who lives & loves all my furbabies, saw her {Charity}, went totally
ballistic - strange cat in her territory... When I finally realized it was
Charity, I was mortified to say the leastJust imagine the thoughts
running thru my head - me falling, Bug getting off leash & Charity's
demise...ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIC, & that's putting it mildly..
Somehow I managed to get Bug back into house. But sweet Charity was on a
mission... She NEVER gave up, and actually came & "waited" for me on
back porch - something she never did! So, when I went back out, w/ a
carrier no less, I decided the time was right.. But, not having any
strength on
my right arm, it was a disaster, to say the least.Neither of us would
give up..And, she "insisted" I hobble on the snow/ice out to barn! She
was patient w/ me, but a tad irritated.. She knew what she had to do
So, we finally get out to barn, where I thanked the lord I had my recliner
[Boy, did I ever need that!!!]
Lo & behold My Bart was there! And obviously in VERY poor shape!
And, this mean 'ole intact feral came right up to me, rubbing my legs! I
was shocked! He had never approached me prior, always "ran off" when he
caught a mere glance, and now he was almost a love muffin. Something was
off. Big time
He looked very ill - skinny, bloated in abdomen, you name it, I
actually though e was another stray/feral - until I saw his " shrunken"
equipment...Then I just knew it was our Bart. So, I set him up, made
an
emergency appt. & deep down inside, my heart was broken..
While waiting the 2 days for appt., , he ate very well, turned into a
love-muffin, I kind of got my hopes up...BIG MISTAKE!!
At my vet, Dr. V. started to drain fluid, I finally asked him to stop.
Also, Bart was pale white, all over almost NOT a good sign.
He was also "mostly" blind.. Among numerous "other" things
NO WAY TO "EXIST".
So, I made the dreaded decision.Very, very hard. but thought Bart
would NOT have the [or any] quality of life. [And, he was an "old"
man.]
Ok, now to Charity.We DID have a vet. appt.soon after, but I had to
cancel because three was NO way to get her in carrierWane a compete exam,
including BW, but never got there. And, she was doing so well. My primary
concern was Puma, I must admit...
Now get this. Thurs. PM she wouldn't [hardly] touch her wet food... So
I pulled a "Puma, Fancy Feast Elegant Medleys - NO GO.!!!
Re: AGP test, per susan little, DVM (winn feline foundation)
Ummm... Really makes me wonder (more!!) Right now, all I can say is that I am "ever so thankful" my Puma is holding his own.. FIP is such a nasty disease Went thru an epidemic at home, years ago while fostering.. And, I did end up losing some of my purr-sonal babies Saw so much at shelter Now, since MVA, I am NOT fostering or adding to my clan...(Other than Charity, who still is separate. And, Timmy, Adira, Autumn & Moonshade are separate, living "the life" in my master bedroom & master bath...) The rest of the gang are all free roaming in rest of house They all know love, have a fur-ever home, so at least that counts for something.. No sense getting myself all worked up over what may or may not be... One day at a time Love, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT:NEW TEST - AGP - Reference Lab Available for FIP samples
Dear Terrie- THANK YOU!!! PROFUSELY!!! I intend to give that info. to my vet, who had diagnosed my ancient, sweet, 'ole Puma with both toxo AND (dry) FIP... I wasn't thrilled w/ results... Highly doubtful about the whole FIP dx. But, my Puma HAS recovered from the toxo, and showing NO signs of any other illness - other than "senility", but, hey, that comes w/ age & he is certainly entitled to that!!! Poor boy had a rough time before I rescued him... :( But, now he's happy, loved to smithereens, ALWAYS has plenty to eat, & has a fur-ever home!!! But, he does have to put up w/ me!!! Thanks again, Love, Patti & her gang (Puma -numero uno) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: stomatitis
In a message dated 5/28/07 12:38:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My cats w/stomatitis have done well after having their teeth pulled. Dtto,here,,, Especially w/ ot Fev/FIV ats.. I kmow it seems like a "drastic' measure,but I can only attest to the[ improvements in their lives..,,, No MURE pain,.abity eatt after sex[ENLUDING DRT!!] Just wish [pray] MORE vets would research then ssve even "handful; of their Just my 2 cents,,, Gotta go... I;m off on [another] diatribe... Hugs, Patti ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Charlie Brown and little Sister Oscar to CLS
In a message dated 5/19/07 2:02:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please add Charlie to CLS list he passed Sunday > night and today we had to pts > his little sister Oscar (she chose that name). She > has been small and > delicate all her life. She stopped eating Sunday and > was in a lot of pain from kidney > failure. I think she really wanted to go with > Charlie. They were both felv+. > Charlie was 15 and Oscar was 12 years old. My heart > is breaking, I miss them > so much. It seems that in my house they leave in > two's. I know they are > together and know longer sick so I will try to > remember only the good days. Give your > babies extra love tonight. Sheila Dear Sheila, My deepest condolences go out to you... I am so very sorry for your loss of both Charlie & Oscar (It does seem that little Oscar did want to be w/ her brother...) Please take comfort knowing you gave them so much love, and much more... Hugs, Patti ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Charlie Brown - Long
Dear Sheila, Please know that both you & Charlie will be in my prayers. I know you must be so heartbroken. What a wonderful life you have given him Reading your story reminded me of my Mr. Chow - the first fur baby I had w/ Felv. This was YEARS ago, no testing, blah, blah, blah.. I "saved" him when we had the Three Mile Island incident here. His owner decided to leave town & was going to put him in a shelter.. That I couldn't take... Long family history w/ Mr. Chow, her ex-husband had mom, Casey, & I had Pee Wee, a sibling from another litter.. I couldn't bear the thought of "what" would happen to him in a shelter. (And I did have Casey spayed after the last litter w/ Pee Wee) Mr. Chow was gorgeous, LH, red, & ever so sweet.. I had him for many wonderful years, he brought so much love & happiness to me. Then one day he just "collapsed".No warning, no other problems... I was devastated & took him immediately to vet... They did many tests. He showed no signs of what his "problem" was.. So, I decided to have that "thing" [can't remember the word,sorry], and he had lymphoma [BIG TIME].due to Felv. which was "discovered" doing primary/initial BW. (After MANY years, things changed...) Apparently he had lived w/ Felv for a long time...When they had put him "under" for the procedure, things looked REAL bad. And he was in so much pain I reluctantly made the decision NOT to bring him back from anesthesiaHis prognosis was so very bad. Broke my heart, but I loved him so much, I didn't want him to have to endure such a lousy life. And, he DID live to be 14 Who knows how long he had Felv? My Mr. Chow was my first encounter w/ Felv. And, bless him, that made a major difference. I NEEDED to know all/anything about this dreaded disease. All this just proves "Felv is NOT a death sentence". Only wish more vets, rescues, etc. would feel the same way :( Having been involved w/ shelter I know only too well that many Felv cats can live a long life. Just wanted to let you know you're both in my prayers And, share my "story".. (Maybe already did, but this "memory/brain" thing, well, that says it all.) Much love & hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
In a message dated 5/12/07 3:01:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All pesticides are toxic poisons, something people tend to forget! That's why I do my best to avoid using them, and I use a flea shampoo first, as it rinses off. Like I said, if it has numerous warnings So true... And, I always tended to avoid using them, bathing dogs, etc., but now, since MVA it's not possible for me to get my dogs in tub (Especially, my Rottie. But I can't even lift my "small" [approx. 45 lbs.] dog into tub!!) And, when I [finally] got home from hosp., I had a SEVERE flea epidemic!!! (Rainy spring...) Needless to say, dogs had to go out, all my cats are indoor only, but, well, fleas are monsters!!! And, bathing some of my cats [now] is next to impossible. Any suggestions??? And, guess what? Another rainy spring, fleas are starting... I guess I could hose down & bathe the K-9's prior to bringing them in. But, they only go out for walks, not chained outside or anything, but those dern fleas are quick What to do, what to do.. Hugs, A Confused Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- - fleas/ Leslie
In a message dated 5/10/07 6:18:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We did not lose our big ole-sweetheart-polydactyl Alex... THANK GOODNESS!! We must have been typing at the same time Hugs, Patti & her gang (Puma, Numero Uno -just don't tell all the others! They all think they're #1) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- - fleas/ Leslie-PS: MAJOR ERROR
Leslie, Sorrybrain's not working [yet/again]. I thought you had lost Alex. Is he ok now? I also know only too well about liver failure/damage in cats My dear, old, ancient Puma went into liver failure when I was having new flooring put in my house. The d_mn idiots didn't do something or other & poor Puma walked in poison I swear, Puma is my miracle boy With all he's been throughand to think, I rescued him due his "seniority" - he was faced w/ PTS by shelter ONLY because of his age ( I'm just so glad I was there for him, just like he's always been here for me.And I pray he'll be with me much longer. He's my "rock".) Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- - fleas/ Leslie
In a message dated 5/10/07 4:29:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm very careful with Frontline... never had trouble with Advantage though. Leslie =^..^= I guess we will never know just what cr*p they're using in their "supposedly" safe guards for flea prevention... Leslie, I am so sorry for your loss of Alex... Words can't even express my thoughts. I was very fortunate w/ Meisha. I know, only too well, that I did face losing her. And, that "thought" alone broke my heart.. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Vet of the Year (uplifting story)/Marissa
Dear Marissa, I just wanted to tell you/let you know from my "own" (horrific) experience[s], NEVER give up or lose hope... My dear, old, ancient Puma had fallen out a window [ground level, rotten" window locks" ] and was gone for what seemed like forever. I did all the same things [w/out a compassionate vet that is ] and was heartbroken. About to give up sadly BUT - one VERY rainy night, I heard this pitiful cry... And guess what? It was my Puma Now mind you, it was a rainy spring, many other rainy days/nights.. I can't "remember" just what drew me out to porch that night, but, was I ever glad, whatever the reason.. Poor old man [and he was old , I rescued him as senior - he's ancient now], was soaked, hungry, you name it. I (we) were in heaven And, where I lived at time, well, he was faced w/ many difficulties - predators included Thank heavens [after a thorough vet check], he was fine!!! And, I got rid of that window! And, after my MVA, NO ONE was tending to my ferals... (Bart & Charity among "others"). When I [finally] got home,after a very LONG hospitalization, there was NO sight of them I was devastated But cats are so smart. Smarter than most people I must add. They came back! I was ecstatic, to say the least.. Charity had been fully vetted prior, not so Bart. But I refused to give up on him, probably the meanest, trap savvy feral I've ever encountered (Had me in ER!!! But that was ok) Sadly, poor 'ole Bart had to be PTS, after Charity "led" me to him.. He was so very sick.. But, he actually turned into a love-muffin. I think he knew I was there to help him.. And Charity, well, she's now here (in house) with me. Another love-muffin [w/ me only}. And she had me in ER many times prior.. It's no wonder I really believe cats are so smart... So, please, don't give up. MIRACLES DO HAPPEN And, I also love my vet.. With Puma's diagnosis [(dry) FIP & toxo], he's just doing so well. Other than having Kitty-Alzheimers Guess it comes with age Probably most other vets would have suggested PTS - not mine!!! ( He also tends my ferals). So, please, don't give up And know you & Georgia will be remain in my prayers.. Hugs, Patti & her gang (Includes Puma & Charity) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Vet of the Year (uplifting story)
Just wanted to add - I only wish ALL (even just some) were like that! I just told Nina, off list, I fired all my (many) doctors! Since it's highly unlikely I can get a Dr. like House, maybe I should ask my vet to treat me. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
I almost lost one of my cats using Advantage,, She was 3 years old & went into a "semi-coma" Was hospitalized for over 3 weeks. Still never found out "why". Thought I would lose her. I was frantic, didn't know just what the problem was Thank heavens she finally came around -after a really long time. I will NEVER use it again! Now use Frontline - NO problems at all... Still can't figure what the problem was. Either could vet. Just my personal experience Hugs, Patti & her flea free gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Vet of the Year (uplifting story)
Marissa, What a WONDERFUL & UPLIFTING story Dr. G. sounds awesome I know that there are (a few) great vets out there, mine being one of them. ( I have to "drive"[not anymore] over 1 1/2 hours to see him). And, I've had (too) much contact w/ the "other" ones sadly I was not aware of your Georgia going "astray". [These eyes, BLAH!!! NOT working, almost impossible to (attempt) to read. Just so glad I had your post read to me...] Any good news? I will keep her (&you) in my prayers.. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Rabies wavier
Even here in Pa. ALL rabies vx.'s MUST be given by vet And, I know that only too well - working for vets, volunteering @ shelter. NO EXCEPTIONS! And, being (prior MVA), I was (am) a licensed vet tech. And, I also worked for vet in Maryland - same thing Sure, I can give rabies vaccine, but it doesn't count. NOT LEGAL And, even here, you can no longer buy the rabies vaccine. Just my two cents. Hugs, Patti & her gang PS - Anyone else wonder why the rabies vx. charge @ vets is SO high? Thank heavens for shelter/sanctuary clinics.. They only charge no more than $5.00. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Rabies wavier
In a message dated 5/8/07 6:26:39 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Titers are also accepted. Glad to see "other" states DO accept titers.. Hugs, Patti & her [rabies titer] gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Rabies wavier
Where I am [Pa} I have rabies titers drawn, documented, etc. Since [most] of my kids are old, they do have sufficient rabies titers, and according to "whatever", they have [more than] enough to NOT have to repeatedly be re-vaccinated. And, their "documentation" works - solves the problem. Is accepted.. And, me, working forever in rescue [Rabies "whatever" is a necessity], always has to 'GO BACK' for check ups. And, guess what My titer is SO high I'll probably never have to be re-booted w/ vaccine...(The high titer will probably kill me..). Just SO glad that the documentation of their rabies titer IS accepted. Any other states do this??? Just wondering Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Eye ointments (was OT- Cheap source of Zithromax?)
In a message dated 5/8/07 1:34:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yeah, drops are good for the nose addition, for sure!
MC, again, you are a wealth of wisdom
And, I "remember" [SURPRISE, SURPRISE!!!] using the drops "nasally" when I
was active w/ shelter.
I was simply amazed at how good the results were... When I was first
"confronted" w/ the nasal drop idea, I thought. "Yeah, right"
Just so very glad to find out they actually work!
And, as far as the debate over BNP & terramycin, that's another story
Some babies reacted well to one or the other.why?
I've had many come around
Best results were using Terramycin
The liquid BNP worked miracles - Using it {only] for nasal drops
I [still].swear by Terramycin. Always works wonders... JMO
though...
Just had to "chirp" in w/ my thoughts
Hugs,
Patti & her gang
PS - JUST REMEMBERD (yeah) - My little Magpie 2 DID end up losing her
left eye..And, guess what??? She was being treated w/ Terramycin :(
Maybe she had a non-responsive "other" conditionShe had SO many
problemsthat I don't want to get into now. Sorry.) Rescued from a
hoarder.[ Ughpeople!!!]
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Re: Rainbow bridge for Joey
Kelley, Oh, my heart is breaking [again, sadly], for you and your loss of Joey I included Joey in my daily prayers And, I know only too well what AIHA can do..(Absolutely horrible, to say the least) And, I went "through" this disease w/ a 130+ lb. Rottie. Can't even imagine (don't want to either...) just "how" poor Joey was afflicted. Just always remember - YOU DID YOUR BEST GAVE JOEY ALL POSSIBILITIES. Joey was so very lucky to "own" you... And, try to imagine that Joey, having crossed The Bridge, is happy & healthy. And, surrounded by [too] many fur babies we have all lost. I KNOW your heart is broken, but [try at least]to know that Joey is now at peace.And, healthy once again. I am so, so sorry. And, I never seem to know just what to say. Just know, I will include Joey & you in my prayers -still Have to go, I'm crying my eyes out(And, with almost NO vision, well, need I say more?) You have my deepest condolences. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Lost a kitten/ Nina
Nina, You always say the right thing!! I take inspiration whenever I read your posts. Your story about the little bird brought back a "bitter sweet" moment I had, years ago, when I lost my Bear to AIHA... I remember "watching" this little bird make her nest, & waited, w/ anticipation for the eggs to hatch... The afternoon I returned from vet, after having lost my baby, I sat, tearfully on my porch. Crying my eyes out, just "not understanding" why/how I lost my Bear. It made no sense & I was totally devastated!! When, lo & behold. Just when I was at the utmost moment of despair - the eggs hatched!!! Words can't explain the joy I felt at that exact moment... I just remember thinking," One life ends, another one begins". I was SO comforted at that moment. And, thankfully, it's a memory that hasn't been lost. Whenever I lose a furbaby, I "try" to remember that moment, for comfort. It's never easy... But at least I have "that" memory to take comfort in Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: kitty not eating
In a message dated 4/24/07 10:17:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
(I can't remember what they are either).
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one w/ a memory problem :)
And, Evo is GREAT!!! Even my ferals loved it!!!
And, yes, I'm one of "the ones" that have resorted to feeding wet Fancy
Feast & Friskies to my ancient Puma... And, he also was having [major] health
issues {toxo, dry FIP] & was really going downhill fast
But, thankfully, after months, I can now happily say he is doing quite
well. And, I figured with his age & all he's gone thru {put in a KILL
shelter
when his guardian died & was slated for euthanasia due to his age, around 11
at that time, so I "rescued" him], my dear 'ole man can have "whatever" he
wants.( within reason..lol)
And tuna is also a great choice!! (Puma LOVES that too!)
And the disease you were referring to is "feline hepatic lipadosis", AKA,
fatty liver disease. Far too common & sadly, I've seen WAY too many
cases
It's so very important to get the kitty to eat. And, probably, see a
vet.(Better safe than sorry)
Hugs.
Patti & her gang
(Special hugs from my Puma!!!)
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Re: help wanted! (no, not the paying kind)
MC, Oh, you don't have to thank me. I would be ecstatic to be able to do anything at all [that I can now] to help poor babies And, since my MVA, my (physical) "rescue" work has been put to an end. I worry so much about the feral colonies I was feeding/trapping/vetting, etc. And, my "own" little colony I was feeding out at barn has "disappeared". Makes me wonder just "why". And, with Bart's death [most likely associated w/ the cr*p I was feeding - wet only, Special Kitty. They ALWAYS got Innova dry], I am heartbroken. Just so very glad dear Charity is safe now in house w/ me. So, don't worry about "time". I'm here ALL the time..:( Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Lost a kitten
Oh, I am so very sorry Lately, just TOO may losses... Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: help wanted! (no, not the paying kind)
MC, I would be more than willing to help in any way I can As most of you know, I have way [too] much time available... And, I do belong to many Yahoo groups So, if you could "walk me through" it, I would be more than willing to help these poor babies. (Just pray my PC stays working) Hoping to hear back, Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: kitty not eating
We always used Nutri-Cal, a hi-calorie gel & FelaVite, also a gel... Also, baby food [meat] can also help. There also is a med. that can induce the eating, but, forgive me, memory's semi-gone when it comes to certain [impt.] things Best wishes, Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Survey on IFA's turning negative
I don't know how or if this will address your question but at the sanctuary I was involved w/ we always used Elisa first. Then, If" we got positive results on Elisa, we always retested w/ IFA. And, any cat "in question" was always kept in isolation no matter what the IFA results were. And, then, we always re-tested, again, w/ IFA. We always believed IFA to be the most accurate, and, yes, costly.. If the 2nd IFA came back +, then we did home those babies in our Felv area[s]. If negative, baby was put up for adoption [w/ ALL vet history given]. And no matter what the results were, I'm just happy those babies had a "home for life". Be it adoption or life at the farm... Don't know if this helps any, but just wanted to share my "history" w/ IFA testing Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/sherrydj88/my_photos
Sherry, She IS beautful, Also, so happy to hear you posting something SO wonderful!! Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Continuation.......Explanation
Sorry about my "rant"... Just had lots to write about And, it's late(early), been a LONG day, so I'll "re-post" what NEVER did go through, [Can't believe [the beginning of] this did.. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Continuation.......
First off - AOL S*CKS, BIG TIME! I've been trying to write since yesterday - it freezes, won't let me even type, got disconnected MUCHO times from Live Help. and finally, the "cure" to fix doesn't work - at all!!! And I've been trying for hours!!! Not even going to call them AGAIN.I don't even think they know just how to "fix" any problem.. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [feline-hyperT] OT:Natural Balance-Melamine
No replys??? I'm going crazy and w ALL OTHER major "PROBLEMS, I certainly don't need any more. I'm on the"brink" and that's putting it "mildly". My babies are my life, the entire reason I'm still here NO DOUBT, whatsoever. And, when I "thought" I was giving them the best... Now I am just not too sure. And I "researched", lot of good that did, huh? You just never know.. Just had to vent and ask [please, please, please], for someone - anyone, to respond. This whole recall is driving all of us nuts, I DO understand, But w/ being a [multi] cat/dog "Mom", I am going over the edge. And that's NOT a good thing. (Have enough other problems, don't need anymore - for sure.) My babies keep me going..And I need that desperately. (It's just about a year & NO improvement. Probably getting worseAnd, it seems all my MANY Dr.s have given up.0h, I do try to "think positive - NOT EASY!!! Once again, I apologize for venting... Hugs Patti & her gang (My life, my love muffins) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: [feline-hyperT] OT:Natural Balance-Melamine
Well, WHEN will it ever end? Just got an FDA recall on Natural Balance, and now they are adding the "Vegetarian"[Dog] canned food Makes me worried as I have a vegetarian dog who I feed the dry formula to (When will that be added? Sigh, Grrr...) Thank heavens I hand cook, so none of my dogs get wet.. I always believed Natural Balance was premium Not anymore.. Just venting. Still have MANY unanswered questions. (No one has replied to them... Wonder why?) Hugs, Patti & her gang (Dogs included - ALL my babies are my life...) ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT: To shelter owners/volunteers-your opinion needed on site visit for Ma...
Wendy, Were the people you visited interested in adopting another... Just wondering. I'm glad to see more rescues do house visits. We always do. More should.. Another question - Did they provide veterinary references? And, were they checked? And, were all their babies S/N'd, vaccinated, licensed? That would be a MAJOR factor to consider And, does this rescue have an adoption contract? Specifically, mandating that if anything comes up, the animal is returned to that shelter only. Being in rescue & volunteering for a shelter so long, there are so many things to consider. However, "if" the home was clean, ALL animals vetted & properly being taken care of, it "might" be ok. IF you mandate the animal's return to you upon ANY instanceand check vet references. And, I would have to consider the neighborhood. There's just too many people out there that will complain about anything!! (Know that only too well...) Best of luck.. Please fill us in w/ results. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Ages please- OT- Ferals
I know all too well "what" those poor babies are feeling - being in "captivity".And I didn't mean to put them down using the term "nasty". Sorry, my mistake. It's not their fault at all But, bless them, being trapped & rescued & being at the shelter is a lot better than what they were facing - CERTAIN DEATH!!! We got so many calls from people "begging" for help because they were facing "other" (kill) shelters coming out to trap them due to complaints from neighbors. And, our shelter/sanctuary is not a bad place All cats are placed in large rooms/areas after initial isolation while doing all tests/bloodwork. And, each area has an outside deck for them. Plus, lots of beds, little huts (to act as "hiding" places), etc. And, they always have plenty to eat.dry & wet. So, they will never face hunger again. Or any illness - we have vets on property 3X a week (Now, medicating them is "tricky", but it does get done.) And, I always had (still do, I think[?]) a way in working w/ ferals. Fostered MANY & was able to bring them around. Can't even count how many "former" ferals were adopted. And, now I have my Charity..."a former feral". Ended up in ER many times from her!!! And, I was just trying to help.. Even Bart (RIP), meanest feral I ever encountered, trusted me, sadly, too late, when Charity led me to him. I really believe the whole reason Charity is a love-muffin (with me only), is because she knew I had helped Bart, her constant companion. People are the problem, NOT the poor cats. And, education IS the key, but, sadly, too many people won't listen. After all, "They're only animals!". Boy, does that p*ss me off! Heard that WAY too many times! Just wanted to clarify & expand on my previous post Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Ages please
My Ethan was diagnosed (SNAP) + when he was rescued as a baby. Needless to say, he would have been PTS immediately by rescuing. shelter, so I took him. My original intention was to place him in shelter I was involved with, since we are No-Kill, and house both Felv & FIV babiesHowever, I fell in love w/ him (it was mutual) & I gave him a home. Also had him tested Elisa & IFA. Both positive Vet said he was most likely born w/ it... He was NEVER symptomatic, but at around 18 mos. he developed lymphoma & it was crushing his heart, (Mine too..) And sadly, since he was having so much trouble just to breathe, I did have him PTS. One of the saddest days of my life.. Now, at the shelter, we have MANY Felv+'s. All ages too.Most come to us because of their diagnosis, and at all diff. ages. And we do everything possible to help them. We have had many successes, like George, who is now approx. 15 & still going strong. And Snappy lived to about 10. However, we have lost (too) many at a young age At least they knew they were loved But dear , sweet Snappy was both Felv+ & FIV+, so he did have a good life. (In fact, I believe ALL our Felv's & FIV's, and all other residents have a good life) The shelter does everything for these babies... That's why I became so involved w/ Felv... They are the sweetest creatures... Well, we do have some"nasty" ferals...(Like our Mr.Big- a Maine Coon who is approx. 12) But I think even they appreciate the care they are given I don't know if this information addressed your question, but I just had to share... One thing I learned is "Feline Leukemia is NOT a death sentence". Just wish everyone would agree to that Including vets & shelters Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: more added to the list--including cat & dog treats
In a message dated 4/11/07 8:36:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We do the best we can do with what we know at the time. And Bart really loves youhe may come back as a housecat now that he knows some people can love instead of hurt. ALL you guys are SO wonderful, compassionate & understanding It just seems I always tend to kick myself when-ever something comes up w/ my babies(Like my Puma, being diagnosed w/ dry FIP - knowing when I had an FIP outbreak while fostering, and NOT getting my personal clan tested just the fosters...I "blame" myself. ) As for Bart coming back as a housecat, I really believe that's possible, even probably very likely I "swear" my Timmy came back after I lost my Felv+ Ethan, in a healthy body.Timmy is so much like Ethan, looks, loving, etc, He's my special boy... And, my room mate always comments about how much more I spend on my fur babies when he does my shopping. The $$'s I spend are way more than I spend on myself, But, my babies ALWAYS come first And, now since the MVA, well, money's tight but I refuse to cut back on their needs. They are, and always have been my life.. That will never change And Ginger goes to vet Friday, not tomorrow, (This "memory" thing). I can only pray for the best.But I am VERY worried, and will blame myself if it's "something" I'm responsible for I think we all do that. Well, this insomniac is going to try to get some rest. Again, much love & thanks to ALL of you... Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: more added to the list--including cat & dog treats
Well now I am in a "position" or whatever you call it w/ Sunshine Mills They make "Ol Roy" dog biscuits..And are ONLY recalling the 10 lb. bags.!!! And, I know, "Ol Roy is cr*p, but I buy the 5 lb. bags 'cause my veggie dog can only eat the "green" ones, and they always have an excess of them in bags And, trust me, I've tried almost all the "supposedly" good veg. brands. NONE of my dogs would eat them!!! So, w/ the non-green cookies, I do give them to my other 3.. And, to me, (2) 5 lbs. = (1) 10 lb. Right? So whose to say they all don't come from the same batch? Makes sense to me And, the CS person at Sunshine gave me a lame explanation. Made NO sense at all. And, now my Ginger has not been "right". She goes to vet tomorrow. (Fingers crossed, prayers needed) I can't believe how "stupid" I've been Me, ever so careful, cooking for critters to "avoid" problems, and I bought "Ol Roy"!!! Just needed to vent... (Also "wondering" if poor Bart got so deathly ill so fast because of his wet food - Special Kitty. I know, lousy stuff too, but me being on such a limited income, tons of bills, gave it to him 'cause he loved wet food!!! And, I was feeding Innova Dry DUMB,DUMB,DUMB! ) It's at the point where I'm going to ALL home cooked foods, for cats & dogs. Don't trust ANYTHING!!!) Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Some thoughts on Patti's post
Dede,
Sorry.I'm in Pa. now. But I am a former New Yorker. LOVE that
state, will always consider it "home".
And, before my MVA, I made monthly visits there. Now, well, that seems
to be out of the question, sadly.
{With all "this" going on, I seem to use "sadly" quite often).
And, NO, you're not crazy for giving a home to those fur-babies! Only wish
there were more people like you.
Sounds like you have a few that are like some of mine Charity, the
[once] "feral" only likes, trusts me.
She "acts" feral again whenever there is anyone else around. But with
me, she's a regular "love-muffin" I really believe it's because when she
led
me to poor 'ole Bart, she knew I'd take care of him And, I did Poor
boy, if he had trusted me sooner maybe we could have saved him.At least
now he's at peace & no longer in such pain
And as far as the "personality disorders", I can relate to that all too
well. Most of my babies are here just because of that. I took them home
because
I couldn't stand to think of what would happen to them, even @ the "No-Kill"
shelter They needed a Mom..and that's me.
Where are you moving to? I have many family in NY..
Best of luck in your endeavors.
Think positive, All will be well. I just "know" it.
Hugs,
Patti & her gang
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Re: Many to add to prayers
Dear Sherry, Boy, you certainly have been WAY too much. My heart is breaking for you [also in tears, AGAIN! A regular thing lately...]. And I know I've told you before, but I will pray for all your fur-babies. And, poor Laurel too There's just too much sadness in this crazy world. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: CLS - Jacksonville FL shelter cats
In a message dated 4/9/07 3:37:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Those without previous caretakers are very important animals too. Ferals
and semi-ferals are the most wonderful friends if you can open your heart to
them
Amen to that
Charity is living proof to that comment, along w/ my other rescued
fur-babies!
And Charity "trusted" me enough to lead me to Bart when he was so ill.
Even Bart "accepted" me..(Even allowed me to kiss him!)
Hugs,
Patti & her gang {many "rescued" ferals ]
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Re: Chip in for Joey - Kelley
Nina, I just made a contribution for Joey & it worked well. Even got a confirmation. Don't understand why you had a problem.[] Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT - Easter Kittens
Kelley, What a nice Easter present Hope Faith & babies are doing well. (Glad she moved them out of litter box!!!) And, what an appropriate name for your girl! People - Don't you just love them? NOT And, I named my sweet Charity, just that, Charity, because she was dumped in a box w/ her newborns. They all needed all the help they could get. And, people around here think I'm a crazy cat lady. Probably because since I moved here I'm the only one that takes care of the ferals/strays..(Guess "whoever" knew just where to dump her!!! Thank heavens) Hugs, Patti (AKA - "The Crazy Cat Lady") & her gang [which includes Charity & Timmy, her baby who definitely loves me..Was adopted, but made it VERY clear to new person he wanted to be home - HERE] ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Please say a prayer for the cats
Dede-
I'm still mourning.. I can't think of anything [much] worse..
I have always worried about the shelter/sanctuary I've been involved in.
It also is old, close to around 100 years old. Was an old farm at one time,
and most of our cats are in the barn area.
And, yes, we have done restoring, updating, etc. - BUT It still is a
very old structure. And, we have built "other" housing, but the majority of
our felines are in the old area(s). {We also use the old cottage..] And
we provide fur-ever homes for over 300 cats (Yes, against regulations,
but when we have a "check", the person doing it is NOT showed all areas.
Yes, we "fib", tell him that the upstairs is "personal". And, they never
debate,argue or insist on seeing it..)
My main concern has always been the people that are doing "community
service". Sure, some may be ok, but we can not ask what their crime was
So, we
really never know just who we're dealing with.
And,most of our dogs are kept in an area [very newly renovated], far from
cats. But we do house our seniors & special need K-9's in another area of
barn..
And, we have 22 acres, so most run freely. But due to the neighborhood, we
have to house the dogs inside at night!!!
And, again, what chutzpah!!! The shelter was there WAY before they put in
the development, people were made "aware" of our presence, but bought/built
the homes anyway!!! And now they complain! (They've had us in court more
times than I care to remember!) No wonder I prefer critters over humans!!!
I'm very relieved that they were able to save some. I am still praying that
more cats will show up.
I only wish all involved the best of luck in their future endeavors...
As sad as it was, thank you for posting about it.
Have to "hobble" off now - My dear, sweet [ancient] Puma is calling me.
Probably to eat, again But, he is so special & at his age, with all his
problems, I feel he justly deserves anything he wants. I do cater to him.
(And, I think he knows it too!!!)
Please keep us updated if you get any more news..
Hugs,
Patti & her gang
PS - HAPPY EASTER TO EVERYONE FUR-BABIES INCLUDED (Unless it's a
poor rabbit that was sold & given as a "gift". Won't be a "happy" day for
those
poor babies... )
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Re: Please say a prayer for the cats
Dede, I'm in tears [again] & it also breaks my heart. Please know my prayers are right there too. (Also praying for a miracle...) Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Joey - Bloodwork still not good
Kelley, Your Joey is in my prayers daily. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Class action suit - pet food recall
Terrie, Thank you ever so much.. I did enroll. Worried about my Ginger, K-9. I do feed my dogs [and cats] Nutro. Thought it was "supposed" to be top line. Also, now I am very concerned about Bart, the feral who [suddenly] got very ill & I had him PTS & had him cremated. He did show signs of wet FIP, very anemic, but I never had bloodwork done. I know, BAD mistake[s]. And, since I feed so many ferals, I did feed him Special Kitty wet..Top of the line dry though.. This whole thing is driving me nuts! Forever adding more & then changing the story Ugh... Now I am cooking for most of them...(My cats do LOVE their wet thoughWhat's a Mom to do?) I spend more money on them than myself And, after MVA, bills, bills, bills But, I put my babies needs first. The hell w/ all those bills!!! Just wanted to thank you for posting that info. I guess we'll see what happens. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: A Candle for Sherry
That was just so, so precious... I pray it will give Sherry some comfort w/ all she's been going thru. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: feline glacoma
Well, in addition to all his other problems, we just found out my ancient [17+] Puma now has glaucoma.I swear, he can barely see. But, he gets around very well [as long as I don't rearrange settings]. He even has problems "seeing" his food.. I swear he has also lost his sense of smell. But he's a trooper. I can't believe just how well he's doing despite all his problems. So, if this baby has touched your heart, by all means, take her home. Cats are so fantastic, they always seem to handle whatever problems arise. And, me, having so many special needs fur babies will attest to that fact. In a heartbeat. Wishing you ALL the best... Hugs, Patti .& her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Vegetarian cat food - Attn: Melissa
Melissa,
Please don't feel "dumb" at all about it.
I also pondered the idea for my cats, but never went thru w/ it the whole
way.
Me, being a vegan, well, let's just say I came to a point where I couldn't
fathom feeding my babies any meat
And, I do have a vegetarian dog - due to severe allergies. {Eating ANY meat
in food almost killed her & she had very bad results. MANY surgeries, severe
ear problems - she's deaf now, skin problems, etc]. I took her home from
shelter 'cause there was NO way she'd survive there.. Let's just say
vegetarian meals were NOT an option unless she was put in a crate. And, she
was
used to roaming freely on the 22 acre farm.
And, she was adopted out as a puppy [she's now 14], and the people knew she
had problems but never took her to a vet! (No wonder I prefer animals over
people!) They "returned" her when she was 8 because they "Didn't want her to
die!" Can you believe that
And now I do cook food, including meat [none for Middy] for all my
guys.
Just very glad I do w/ all this stuff gong on now...
I really believe that our babies do need at least some meat in their diets.
(Unless they have allergies like my Middy).
It's crazy, me, the vegan, cooking meat. Oh well, my babies are my
life..
So, please don't feel bad about all this...
Just wanted to fill you in on my story. No veg. cats, but a totally veg.
dog.
Hugs,
Patti & her gang, including my vegetarian dog
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Re: Lucinda Please add her to the CLS
Sherry, My heart is breaking for you - AGAIN! I still remember your Maizee. I am devastated about Lucinda's passing- [Much too soon] And, I did have her on my daily prayer list. Just way TOO much going on here - illness, passing, etc. I am in a real funk And I only wish there were other options to stop all this... I too, am going thru a MAJOR meltdown. The only "good" thing is we ARE doing our best to help, save all fur babies No wonder I prefer critters over people. (So many people do create these "problems".) Gotta go, I'm crying my eyes out. (A very common thing sadly ) Please know you are constantly in my thoughts and prayers. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: cat food recall-royal cannin
I have a hard time using the word "safe" right now too... Cause yesterday, "somewhere", I did see a list that did include canine dry And, one of the items was/is a food I use for my veggie/allergic dog.. I did send a memo to them about it, but I'm sure they're inundated w/ inquiries.. And, of course, I can't remember just "who" the mfg. was. But, thank heavens for the "save" thing, I did save it (somewhere) on my PC.. Only good thing is lately I've been feeding her Natural Balance... But I am REALLY concerned about one of my other dogs - the Golden Retriever X, young & the only canine I have that isn't a "special need". She's been "off" & I can't figure out why. Her dry food is (presumably) ok.. And, they don't eat canned. I supplement w/ cooked food. Wondering "if" it could be the dry or her cookies All my other beasts are fine... This whole thing really has me worried. I really think they know more than they are telling..(Surprise,surprise- NOT!!) So, I've taken her off the dry - home cooked only now. And, cookies are out also. Guess if she's still acting poorly, it's off to the vet. This has me totally baffled.. Thank heavens my cats & other dogs are fine.(Knock on wood) What's a Mom to do? Wish us luck and say a prayer... Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: any other catfood suggestions
MJ- I can only "recall" from being @ shelter (where we ALWAYS fed top-notch food,)that from doing research, we discovered that the main preservative DID have carcinogenic qualities.. And, believe me, we did LOTS of research.. Just can't remember just where we got info. that made owner discontinue using it. And, you're right - thee are carcinogenics in just too many food items. I guess I could research now where we got the info. & exactly "what" the preservative was, but, well, I have trouble now remembering simple things I DO remember that when all this transpired, I was fostering kittens, using Eukanuba Kitten & the owner freaked after reading & showing me the info. Also, since I was in charge of ordering, I did do a lot more research.Totally "freaked" at the preservatives being used in high quality, well known, commercial foods.It was at that point, we switched to mostly only natural foods.. Now you got me "wanting" to go back in my files & dig out the info. Only problem, heck, I can't remember where all my files are. And, again your right... There are more deaths connected to so many "other" things. It's not black & white Just wish I could recall where we got info. from.(Maybe one day I'll get my memory back- Wishful thinking) But, you did make a good point. I do understand exactly what you're saying, so no offense taken. That's probably one of the best things about this group... We can all say/write our own opinions w/out being "afraid" of repercussions This group has always been my support, and heaven knows, I need it now more than ever. Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: any other catfood suggestions
In a message dated 3/24/07 3:04:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Science Diet CRAP? It has been proven that Science Diet (&Eukanuba) use a preservative known to be a carsinogenative.. Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
In a message dated 3/24/07 1:04:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That is a very good--and scary--point Yes, I was also thinking [See? Sometimes my brain DOES work!!!] the same thingabout Friskies & Fancy Feast. Wonder if we'll ever know the truth... Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: pet-food contaminant found? -Rat Poison -just announced
In a message dated 3/23/07 1:05:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No excuse for this, no matter what. Hope they get the pants sued off them DITTO Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Another Update: Today's Vet Visit
Marissa, I am absolutely thrilled you were able to get Slink to a caring, concerning wonderful vet today! Also thrilled she's going to do "research" on certain things - that just means SO much I'm just sorry I didn't get you the info. on my wonderful vet. (Today was NOT a good day for me! Early ok, later it just went downhillNow look, almost 3:00 AM & I'm STILL up! Insomnia, gotta love it - NOT) And, the rates seem very good too( Almost like my "Rescue Rates"..) This vet must be closer than Finksburg too, huh? That's another wonderful thing. Just know that both of you will be in my thoughts and prayers Please do keep us updated... And, just in case you want/need another opinion, here's my vets info: Dr. David Vaughn Finksburg Veterinary Center 2025 Suffolk Rd. Finksburg, Md. 21048 Phone - (410) 833-3300 ) OR [might be fax, my eye isn't cooperating] (410) 861-8370 And, if you do want/need to see him, tell him you were referred by me & my rescue buddy, Diane Blosser. (And we will call so you get "Rescue Rates" ) Again, I am very sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. But I am so pleased you were able to get Slink to a good (great) vet today. And, it sounds like he is doing well. "Happy Dance" here too Best wishes, lots of love... Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:41:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did your vet say whether Epogen would help Joey? My Bear (RIP) was on epogen (among WAY other Rx's). At first it did boost his PCV but AHIA is a NASTY disease, and that's putting it mildly.. Despite all his meds, nothing helped... :( Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:28:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but worth it if you need your kitty to eat. Yes, indeed Looks like the Fancy Feast Elegant entrees is really getting our furbabies to eat.. Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
OhPlease don't blame yourself for anything!!! And, an elderly Owner Surrender, boy, I've had MORE than my share of them (One of which is my Puma, now ancient, but was approx. 12 when turned into a kill shelter! And, due to his "age", they were going to euthanize, I should say gas him right away The joys of rescue) Know that my prayers are w/ you & your boy.. I pray for only the best Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Auto Immune Hemolytic Anemia
I've never had or dealt w/ [that I can remember now anyway.] a cat w/ this disease... But I DO remember when my first Rottie was diagnosed with it.. What had me concerned was his lethargy, not common for him. Just laying around, sleeping alot. So, I took him to my vet. Was devastated when I got results!!! Mind you, I WAS thinking positive, after all, he was my baby. It's a nasty disease.. (Very prevalent for his breed as I learned doing my research) We tried everything as it progressed... PCV's every three days, transfusions, epoeitin [sp?], an oncologist, chemo (THREE diff. prescriptions!), etc., etc. Needless to say, and I'm sorry, but after TOO long, I finally had my boy PTS.. He could no longer walk, even get up. And, the chemo drugs made him so sick. He couldn't even eat on his own, something he LOVED to do!!! I ended up "hand-feeding" him. He developed ulcerations in his mouth because of all he had to take. It got to the point where I was hand-feeding him a diet of cottage cheese (NOT a great diet for a big boy..) In the end, my "former" big boy weighed only around 60 lbs. (And I do remember my vet always getting on me about his weight) It broke my heart, but I'm even more heartbroken about all I put him through. I did it for me - I didn't want to lose him. But, after all I put him thru, I did lose him. We humans can be so selfish. After losing Bear [in a HORRIBLE way- treatment was probably worse than the disease!], I made a promise to ALL my babies, I would never let them suffer. Found out, the hard way, that in loving the most important thing is knowing when to let go.. Sorry this wasn't about Feline AIHA, but I just had to share what I know [sadly, only TOO well] about the disease. Best wishes for your baby. Hugs, Patti & her gang (Which DOES include another Rottie!) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
In a message dated 3/21/07 11:08:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whiskas Terrie, See? You also helped me. I also forgot about Whiskas Hugs, Patti & her [soon to get their previous wet food!!] gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
In a message dated 3/21/07 10:57:52 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: sheba snack cans, they aren't the full meal cans but little snacking wet food, expensive, but worth it when the cats love it so much. Good luck Jeni- THANK YOU Your post "stirred" a memory.. Yes, Sheba was another food I forgot. (It's amazing how much this list has helped me! Thank you ALL!) Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food - OOPS!!!
Debbie, Sorry, I just "read" about the episode w/ the Salmon & Ocean Whitefish...Guess I wasn't too much help. But, since you want Cassie eating something other than "dry only", have you tried baby food [meat]? Always works for me. Especially when Puma was so sick & just diagnosed, he was a mess. I really believe that's what got him back on track.. (That, and me FINALLY being home!) Again, Good Luck! Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Looking for a good canned food
Debbie- Well I "guess" it really depends on our fur babies. And believe me, I have a ungiue crew, and that's putting it mildly... Some will eat just about anything, but I'll focus on my persnickety babies... My Puma (ancient, ill & w/ kitty alzheimers [EXCEPT when it comes to food] ) thrives on Fancy Feast, especially the "new" kind. ($$$'s, but he's worth it..). He also LOVES Friskies Tuna & Egg. Only thing is, I really have to smush it for the old boy He likes his food really, really wet. He also loves Friskies "Mixed Grill". And, Ocean Whitefish, Turkey & Giblets, Salmon... And, except for a "few", my babies detest any sliced varieties...(Except for the Friskies Turkey & Giblets - probably know it's "good" for them...) Have to "confess", they all hated the good stuff (canned, they ALL eat "good" dry.).. Another thing, almost all of them dislike any beef flavor. Even the "non-persnickety" ones. Hope you get some suggestions that Cassie will actually love... Sorry if I wasn't more helpful. With this "memory thing", it's impossible to recall all. Just remember Friskies 'cause it's what we exclusively fed at shelter.. Hugs & Best Wishes, Patti & her (Friskies/Fancy Feast) gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ
MJ- I am going to get all that info. for you... Please bare w/ me, I'm S-L-O-W. Wonder why J/K - not I "think" I can even get you another rescue referral. Working on that. I will do my best.. Promise. And, the sooner, the better, right? He is VERY busy, but he DOES take emergencies almost right away. One more GREAT thing - He NEVER opts for euthanasia He does all he's able. LOVE that vet, really. I'll get that info. to you ASAP...(Probably "off-list") Please stay in touch! Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?/Attn: MJ
I forgot [silly me!} to say that my vet also gives "Rescue Rates" If you want, I'll "vouch" for you Hugs & Best Wishes, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: FeLV Supportive Vets in DC Area?
MJ- I'm in south(western) central Pa. The wonderful, compassionate, caring vet I use is in Finksburg, Md. A long drive (not anymore, can't drive, have to rely on my rescue buddies...Sigh, another story) from here, but is Finksburg, Md. an option? [ It is closer than WV] If you're interested, please let me know & I will get you his address & phone #. Looking forward to your reply Patti & her gang PS- Sorry, but PRIOR to my MVA, I did have some very wonderful vets in Catonsville, Md. And, with this dern "memory problem", I don't even know where all my vet records are anymore:( ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: any other catfood suggestions
In a message dated 3/15/07 9:01:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (and there are quite a few people who are very poor and yet share a tremendous amount with their pets) That would definitely be me, especially since my MVA. ( I was on SSDI PRIOR to MVA, NO insurance, & now faced w/ over $200,000 + [ever growing] medical expenses... Having said that, my furbabies still come first And, since coming home I've been faced with - 1) Cornelius's passing - very suddenly & unexpected 2) Puma's illness[es] - diagnosed with both toxo &[dry] FIP 3) Black Bart, a feral who NEVER trusted me. [And it was Charity, another feral, who led me to him ] And, finally he put his trust in meJust sadly too late. And dear Charity, is no longer an outside feral. In fact, w/ me she's a love muffin! Downside, I am the only human she "trusts" In my home, in a large crate 'til I get her to vetThank heavens I had her spayed when I trapped her, but her constant, close contact w/ Bart does have me concerned. Just another vet bill - which ALWAYS gets paid!] Needless to say, it was too late for poor old Bart.[severely anemic, old, thin but VERY bloated, lots of fluid, probably the most "classic" case of [wet] FIP I've ever seen], and doing rescue almost my entire life, I have seen too much. And still "intact". And 4) - my precious fish, won't even get into that - but I did lose my Fred... However, I always made a point to get these babies to vet [$$$]. Even w/ "Rescue Rates" it has been awfully expensive, be it exams, [including BW & ongoing meds/treatments - Puma] or euthanasia (Bart) & cremation -[Cornelius and Bart] - no room in freezer, poor Fred's STILL there! And, yes, I do feed them expensive dry food..(Always did, always will..) That being said, I will confess, I DO feed Friskies wet. And my dear, ancient Puma does get his Fancy Feast whenever he desires. Which is at least 4+ X a day He's ancient & I feel he deserves whatever he wants.. And, not to get completely OT, but I cook for my (4) dogs! Yes, they DO get dry, but living w/ a dog w/ food allergies is certainly a challenge, to put it "mildly". Only upside is it's ok. [I'm a vegan & have a veg dog!!! Probably not too many people can attest to that!] Natural Balance & Only Natural Pet have some GREAT food. Dog & Cat. Sorry I went OT & rambled, but being "housebound", I don't get out much.. Hugs to all, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: any other catfood suggestions
Don't ask me My furbabies ALWAYS come first. (Spend more on their "groceries" than for myself..) I feed them ALL Innova Evo. Even the stray/feral colony What can I say My furbabies definitely deserve the best, even if it's "pricey". And they absolutely love it! Gives me great joy (And I really need that now) At the shelter, we used Precise [I think]. A very good food, and not too expensive either.(With over 300 cats to feed, money was an option). And, YES, Science Diet s*cks And, I "think" I remember reading about not so good things about the "Chicken Soup" thing. Just can't remember where & the details.. Don't even get me going on Diamond! And, I have MANY [all] cats on Evo.. We "survive"... If I could "remember". I'm sure I'd have more options.SIGH.. Best of luck finding a great food. Hugs, Patti & her "gang" ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Opinions appreciated
In a message dated 3/9/07 10:10:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They need some education severely. Couldn't agree more... EDUCATION IS THE KEY Patti & her gang (Most rescued due to "special needs" or other problems that owners couldn't/wouldn't even try to deal with. And, guess what??? They are all doing GREAT!!! Their loss, my gain They are my world. The whole reason I am still here after MVA, I honestly believe that...) ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Opinions appreciated
In a message dated 3/9/07 4:41:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have found with my limited exposure to rescue groups and I would assume the same with humane societies, the tend to be a bit strongly opinionated if not even being accusing. I am sure it comes from what they see. YES Anyone not exposed w/ working in rescue has NO idea what we see & try to "deal with". Education is the key... And, our rescue group tries to educate. But, so many people don't even want to "listen"... No wonder I prefer creatures over people. No offense, but I've just seen and dealt with WAY TOO MUCH Animals are NOT disposable.. Sorry,I hope I haven't offended anyone. JMO. Patti & her (non-disposable, special needs & rescued) gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: ovaban and other stuff....Nina
Dear Nina, I've been thinking much about you also. (And now w/ my vision going so bad, unless I put you on speed-dial...well. And, my "mobility" is also going to he!!, so it's almost impossible for me to answer phone. And, that portable phone my room mate got me, well, it has TOO many "things" and I have a great record of disconnecting incoming calls.. I give up! Think positive - great idea, but hard to do when you're steadily going [further] down- hill. After reading your post, I remembered how the vet visit went w/ Bart... (I also have a great vet, compassionate but MILES awayHe does give me Rescue Rates - thank heaven).. When I sadly had Bart PTS he asked me "what did I want to do w/ his remains.I jokingly said I'd put him in freezer w/ Fred, my [very LARGE] goldfishWe have been in such a deep-freeze, snow, sleet...I don't think ground will thaw 'til June So, I did have him cremated That fee was larger than I expected..But, as always, the critters come first. I didn't now how Bart would react - strange place, strange people.. And he was in so much pain.. But I did explain to him "why" I was doing this, promised him he would be taken care of [NOT what I wanted, but I've promised all my critters I'd never let them suffer]. He was so amazing though. He did growl, hiss - but only once. I just stroked him, "explained" to him what was going on, and he even let me kiss him I really believe he knew I was doing the best [only] option. When the vet gave him the sedative prior to the euthanol, well, he looked at me w/ those big, beautiful eyes - I think "telling" me, "It's ok Mom & thank you". And, for Charity's appt., I do have a carrier that has the metal thing on top that you can just open, and that will probably be much less "stressful" - for both her & me. I'm just concerned about "how" we can draw blood.. She was negative when I had her spayed, but she's been out the last 2 years, And, Bart, [NEVER tested], was old, "intact" & had all the textbook symptoms of wet FIP(He was so full of fluids...) Poor 'ole boy. A lousy life. Is it any wonder I prefer critters over people? And believe me, doing Rescue for so long, the things I saw, the idiots I encounteredG.. I could go on & on. Especially since I just watched Animal Cops (Heroes). Ughh.. I'll let you all know how it goes w/ Charity. I do talk to her every day, try to "explain" what we're [trying] to accomplish. And, yes, she does trust me so hopefully it will be smooth sailing w/ excellent results And, I do use Feliway & RR. And w/ the Feliway, it's so wonderful - stroking this former feral girl. I actually thinks she actually enjoys the touching...I still can't believe the turn-a-round..Makes me cry, tears of joy. SIMPLY AMAZING! This girl had me in ER so many times! Oh, I am rambling again, sorry, but I have gotten so much love & support from this group, And, it really helps me, emotionally. I really need that, especially now. So, thank you Nina and everyone for all your support. You'll never know how much it means to me, Oh, look at the time (Takes me forever to write). The insomniac is going to attempt to get some rest. Hopefully anyway. Much love, hugs & thanks, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Questions and concerns - nervous hair pulling cats
Nina, We must have been responding at same time. But, I am SO glad you "reminded" me about the Chlor-Tabs. Since Buster is very healthy, I just will have to start him on that! And, he's another love-muffin - VERY pillable! (Unlike CharityDon't have the nerve to even try pilling her!!!) Gonna go, give Buster some Chor. Wish me luck!!! Hugs, Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: ovaban and other stuff....
In a message dated 3/8/07 7:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So no one here has heard much about the use of ovaban for itching and calming them down? Debbie I had to give a male cat ovaban for his urinating (outside of box, ANYWHERE!!!). But, the poor boy was traumatized, owner was fleeing town after we had the "Three Mile Island" incident here [Sorry, my memory stinks, but I KNOW it was early '80's, at least I "think"]. She was just going to "dump" him in a KILL-SHELTER! And, at the time, I did have one of his sisters, so, regardless of that fact, he came home - to me He DID calm down, used box ALL the time, BUT. That was my Mr. Chow - [my very first encounter w/ Felv.].. And, to make matters worse, when he got older and sickly, he was diagnosed w/ cancer... Upon necropsy [something I detest], his lymphosarcoma was due to being Felv+. (Keep in mind, this was prior to Snap or Elisa testing..) I was devastated... I still "wonder" about just how they were able to diagnose Felv. () And, he lived w/ me & my furbabies MANY years, and all his friends lived to a ripe [healthy] age. On the subject of amytryptilline, we used that at the shelter on many stressed-out cats. And, Blossom [See? I CAN remember some things!], used to chew her fur terribly PRIOR!!! Her nickname was "Bald Blossom". After giving her the meds, she was "Beautiful Blossom"! And, as far as I know, which lately isn't too much, she is a healthy senior w/ lots of fur What dosage were you RX'ed? Improper dosage can lead to many "problems". And, don't ask me what we had our Blossom on. that memory is gone I know I am rambling & am even going to switch topic, but. For vitamins, yes, PetTinic is very good, but we also used Fela-Vite[sp?]. It's a flavored gel, I even "think" it's made by the same mfg. as Laxatone. () Just don't quote me on that.. And, since I'm changing topic, I also want to say that I am seriously contemplating having my Buster put on amytryptilline.. He was Cornelius's best friend (the rest of my gang are "snooty", AND THAT'S PUTTING IT MILDLY). I rescued Buster shortly after Cornelius, and when Corny passed, well, I was really concerned about Buster. And, he is also a Maine Coon, but now he is a DSH!!! And, he is perfectly healthy, according to my vet. He's on a good [great] diet, no fleas, no allergies... What's a Mom to do And, I DO have to go back to vet, as soon as I figure out a way to get dear Charity into a carrier.. For those of you not familiar w/ my Charity, she's the feral I've been looking after [spayed, tested, vaccinated, plus food & shelter], who led me to Black Bart, another REALLY, REALLY mean feral tom [in a BLIZZARD!!!] when he was so ill... They both put their trust in me that night.. Sadly, for Bart it was too late. :( But, Charity "allowed" me to carry her back to house, and she's been inside ever since In a large crate, but until I ever get her to vet, I don't want to "expose" her to my other babies I even have Timmy, her baby.Who I had to bottle feed 'cause the j*rk that dumped them, put them in a cardboard box Of course, Mom got out, but I had her 2 teeny babies The other baby, Thomas, was adopted, but Timmy won't have any of that [He did get adopted while I was in hosp., thank heavens for adoption contracts!!! He made it purr-fectly clear that this was his home] I'm rambling [again], back to CharityWe DID have a vet appt., BUT..., upon "seeing" another human, she went ballistic (I can't drive among other handicaps after MVA), so when my rescue buddy came to get us, there was NO way to get her in carrier! I knowmy fault, should have already had her in carrier. But, she has to be at least "semi" manageable for vet appt. And, she does not like any person but me!!! And, at least prior to MVA I could draw blood. Now...FORGET IT!!! My room mate even asked why I brought the EVIL CAT in (Her "house" is in my laundry room and she freaks whenever he goes in there!!!) So just how can I expect a vet & staff to handle her??? With me, she's a mush She "allows" me to stroke her, even PURRS!!! And, sometimes when she pretends to scratch me, she doesn't even have her claws out!!! I just don't know what to do.. Living in a crate is MUCH better than life outside in this weather here. Suggestions, anyone Debbie & everyone, sorry I rambled so much. Can you tell I don't get out much? Patti & her gang ** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
Re: Bart
In a message dated 2/17/07 1:42:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patti, I'm so sorry you had to make the decision to let Bart go. It sounds like he did come to you for help though. It's amazing, the tie we share with cats, isn't it? I'm glad he came to you and didn't die cold and alone. I hope Charity is doing well. Deep inside I knew it was the right decision. I have promised all my fur babies that I would never let them suffer And, clearly Bart was.. My biggest regret is that he didn't "trust" me sooner..I really believe that although he was so feral, he did count on me & maybe even trusted me. But, apparently he was old, lived on the streets & never trusted humans...Who can blame him? Not me.. His prognosis was, let's say, BAD I couldn't bare the thought of what he would have to go through. And, me, now being "disabled", would have to rely on my rescue buddies for transport. And, w/ all he would have needed, I was frantic at the thought of NOT being able to get him to vetjust more suffering. Thank heavens Charity finally came around, and I believe with all my heart that night of blizzard, she came to me to help Bart. And, she was determined, no matter what (blizzard, Rottie, etc.) that she wouldn't give up... She knew Bart needed help - soon, and I know she knew that I was the only person she could trust... As I said before, it was at least a 3 hour ordeal..She didn't give up, neither did I. I still find it absolutely amazing that this mean old VERY feral boy let me help him... I think he also "knew" he was ill. And probably didn't want to pass - alone, cold on the streets. After all his years, he finally found someone to trust - just a shame it took so long. At the vets, well, what can I say? His beautiful eyes seemed to be saying "Thank you & it's ok". I still cry when I remember that day.. He "allowed" me to stroke him & kiss him, which I seemed to do the entire time we were there. Unbelievable - this big, old feral tom who I had trapped once [memory coming back?], lunged out of trap & went right to my stomach area. Ended up in ER (a regular thing when trying to help my ferals/strays) Still have "his marks".. Now I only pray the scars never fade.. Charity is doing very well.. Safe & warm in house. Lots of bedding, plenty to eat & guess what? She DOES use litter box! [Still say she WAS someone's "pet" & they dumped her when she had her babies} I (sadly) do have her in a large crate.. With her close association w/ Bart, and all that's been going on with my bunch, well, I feel it's the best option right now. She is NOT showing any symptoms of anything, and while at vet, discussing my Puma, (originally diagnosed w/ [dry] FIP & toxo), even my vet said that the FIP diagnosis could have been an error... Corona virus shows up in many cats.. And, there is just too many similarities w/ BW diagnosing toxo & FIP... Puma has finished all meds, and is back to his same old ancient self... YEAH! Charity goes to vet next week. Should be a "trip" as I am the only human she trusts!!! I do intend to have her tested, as I no longer have any Felv kitties. She was tested when spayed, was negative, but life on the streets? But even "if" she does come up +, so what??? It's not a death sentence, and I'm sure I can make accommodations right hereHave a large, spare room we are not using. It's not the Ritz, but a heck of a lot better than life on the streets. And, yes, it is absolutely amazing the tie we share w/ cats. ( Just a shame that there are TOO many people that can't relate) We are an elite group. And the people on this list are so special..I joined when I rescued my Ethan [Felv+], who, sadly passed But, being at the shelter,no-kill, and having many experiences w/ Felv kitties, I've never left... Now, I can no longer be at shelter, but, I just couldn't even think of leaving. Gosh, I really rambled, huh? That's what happens when you're "housebound" And, now, my [semi] good eye is giving out Just wanted to say thank you for your kind words about my Bart Hugs, Patti
Re: OT anethesia - Propofol - risks?
hideyo- We used that pretty regularly at the one vet practice I worked at.. As far as I can "remember" [not much lately, sigh], it was probably the safest..(Compared to telazol, xylozine (sp?), etc.) I don't recall any problems, risks... Hey, any anesthesia does have "possible" risks, especially the injectables.. I always "preferred" the gassing kind. Maybe that's just me. Refresh my (lost) memory You're talking about the white, liquid injectable stuff, right? What "procedure" is it going to be used for And, if it is the injectable stuff, insist that fluids are given at time of procedure, and, also, regular sub-q fluids after - to flush it out of system Keep us updated, please. (And, sorry if I am not talking same stuff - the "memory" thing really stinks) Patti
Re: Hi and Question: Mouse Traps
In a message dated 2/7/07 5:31:40 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Humane mouse traps are nicer to the mice, too. I've used them with great success. I have to agree on the "humane" traps... Have used them w/ much success. Only dilemma I had was just "where" to relocate my new found furry friends!!! Me, I can't stand the idea/concept of hurting any living creature. Hugs, Patti & her clan - (Which DOES include the mice in this house!! My felines wouldn't know what to do w/ a mouse! Thank heavens)
Re: OT - a lovely story
Thank you for posting that story. It certainly did bring (more) tears to my eyes. And, what Kerry wrote is so true. It is very heartening to "know" that there ARE people in this world who do have hearts.. Thanks again, Hugs, Patti & her clan
Re: more praying for Lucy and Michelle, please
Hideyo, Lucy has been in my prayers EVERY night... I have been so worried about Michelle now too.. I will also add Michelle to my prayers. ALL she has been going thru w/ her Lucy, well, I can relate (sadly) all too well... Thank you for posting. Have you been in contact w/ Michelle? If so, please tell her that I am very concerned, and, both she & Lucy WILL be in my prayers. Hugs, Patti & her clan
Re: Bart
Thank you all so very much for your thoughts, concerns and prayers for Bart and me. After I sent that post about my feral friend, (around 3:00 AM, EST ), I DID go out to barn & struggled (very hard ) to get him in a large crate and into secluded area of house I hated having to lift him, he was so painful, but I couldn't stand the thought of him being so sick & inside the barn, no matter how well I "thought" I had insulated it.. The sad news is, I did have Bart PTS. I was with him when he crossed the bridge, able to snuggle & kiss him. How strange is that??? He was certainly,well probably, the most feral cat I ever came across in all my years And, very, very savvy. Never could trap him over the past two years. (I even got info. from Nina on an alternative method.) I honestly "believe" that because I had earned their trust, Charity "led" me to him in the blizzard She knew he needed help, so she turned to me. Even when I had my Rottie (who does like cats, just freaked over a "strange" one in her territory), out on leash.. The way Ladybug re-acted scared the bejesus out of me, but Charity would not give up..When I look back, I am so very thankful that none of us got hurt - (me - falling, Bug [born deaf], getting off leash & Charity not being challenged by my very large, very territorial, Rottie). I am also very thankful I was "allowed" to get both Charity & Bart into my care. At the vets this AM, Bart was so good.. Scared, of course, but he kept looking at me and I just "knew" He had an abdomen so very full of fluid. Unbelievable. The vet did pull out alot, but I finally asked him to stop. Besides the fluid in his belly, Bart's gums were almost white.NOT a good sign. And, he had quite a few abscessed teeth, and was already "missing" quite a few.. His "vision" was also questionable.. My poor boy was also in so much pain. He "wanted" to lay down, but just couldn't on that cold, stainless steel table. Broke my heart.. Had a conversation w/ vet about the "possibilities" of Bart recovering... He explained that although it was almost a textbook case of "wet FIP" (which would mean regular draining), he also was most assuredly very anemic. Epogen, transfusions. Also, he "explained" it "could be", lymphosarcoma, cardio-vascular, liver, kidneys - I'm sure you all get the picture. His prognosis was very poor, with NO guarantees. I just remembered the promise I have made to ALL my babies, so I made the dreaded decision.. My dear vet gave him a tranquilizer prior to the euthanasia solution, and Bart just seemed to pass peacefully, as I stroked him & kissed his (big "ole) head.. Not a good day.. I HATE having to "play God".. And, you know, it hurts me just as much when it's a feral/stray.. Just absolutely heartbreaking. No other words can explain it... Well, it's feeding time at Patti's Zoo, and the rest of my charges are counting on me. Can't let them down. I'm all they have,,, And, they are my world. As soon as I am done, I will e-mail Belinda to add Bart to next CLS. I will also "try" to e-mail those of you who I have corresponded with off list. Just, please forgive me if I don't get to it tonight You are the most wonderful, supportive, loving group of folks out there.. I am very thankful to be a part of this group. Really. Hugs, (A Very Sad) Patti & her clan
Bart
Just wanted to update (and ask for prayers) about Bart.. Have a vet appt. @ 9:00 AM, can't sleep. I'm too worried Besides his bloating & being very skinny --- tonight when I picked him up to put a "warmer" under his bed, he criedas if in pain. (Poor boy, probably IS ) Another thing. he is hardly eating at all.. I believe the night of the blizzard, Charity wanted me to help her companion Why she wouldn't allow me to scruff her in yard, and ended up making me follow her out to barn, where, miraculously, Bart was there It's like she knew he was sick & needed help, so she led me to him. I spent many hours in barn w/ him tonight, mainly to observe. He was curled up in his bed, and, every now & then, looking up to make sure "Mom" was still there. After his crying when I lifted him, I was afraid to hold him. Didn't want to put him in any more pain. And now I'm sure, he is in pain, probably too much.. Poor boy. My heart is breaking because I hate having to make "that decision". However, I have promised ALL my babies that I will never let them suffer. I really believe that the meanest, feral cat I have ever encountered, does know & trust me, that's why he's done such a turn-around. He knows I will take care of him, regardless of what he's suffering from I can only take comfort that "if" I have to euthanize him, at least he won't just suffer & die (alone) out on the streets. I am NOT looking forward to tomorrow, but, I know Bart does need veterinary help..Only wish he would have "trusted" me sooner. Better go, and try to get some rest. I'm going to be a real nut-case tomorrow for sure. Please, say a prayer (or whatever your venue is) for my dear Bart,,, Ditto that for me.. I am so scared & heartbroken. Will update after Bart's appt. WISH FOR THE BEST! PLEASE? Hugs, Patti & Bart & the rest of the clan
Re: OT: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
Thank you ALL for your replies You are all SO caring& wonderful! As of today, my Charity is eating very well, using litter box, allowing me to stroke her, purring... She really seems very content, Now Bart, well, besides being so bloated, he is NOT eating (much). When I went out to barn to feed, water & clean his crate, I noticed that he's a pretty good "deciever" - He has been "hiding" his food... Under all his blankets, under his bed... And, he's NOT eating much of his dry food (EVO)... No wonder he's so skinny, but WHY? He did have some very small firm feces in his litter box, so he must be eating a very small amount of "something" I am really, really worried about him... The sooner I can get him to vet & get "answers", well, I'll go from there. Apparently, he is VERY old. Just "how" old we'll never know for sure. But, he let me stroke him, seemed to enjoy it. Kept coming back for more.. Hard to believe that when I first "encountered" him, he was probably one of the meanest ferals I'd ever come across. (And, I have a "history" of working w/ ferals, many success stories. Maybe he's one more. I just hope it's NOT because he's so sick) And, since we're in this deep-freeze, I did my best to insulate the barn more... It can't be too bad in barn, cause his water didn't freeze solid So, I put some "thermal thingys" under his bowls to try to prevent any freezing.. Another thing I noticed today, was that the dry food in their outside feeding station was all gone.. So I guess I have more strays/ferals relying on me. Naturally, I did fill the bowl...With this weather, 5 (FIVE) degrees, the poor babies need the food I'm just really worried about Bart.. Bloating, skinny, not eating... At least I know he's in a nice warm bed, and there is plenty of food (in case he decides to eat). Need to get to vet ASAP Even if I have to cancel one of my MANY Dr. appts. I am at some health care place every day, except Wed. & Fri. And, since I'm not making any progress, it's only natural (for me), that a furbaby's needs take precedence... I only wish I could save them all.. Again, thanks to ALL of you! This has always been such a supportive group I LOVE YOU ALL Hugs, Patti & her ever-growing clan
OT: Bart & Charty are now safe!!!! W/ me!!!
I know this is OT, but I have written about Bart & Charity, my ferals to the list.. And off list to Nina & Kerry.. The other night, we had a (short) blizzard here And, my room mate was off on an appt. & I had to walk my dogs after feeding. (NOT easy, I am so afraid of slipping & falling & losing my K-9 babies). Anyway, after feeding, when I was out with my Rottie, I heard these "sweet" cat sounds - turns out it was my dear Charity, she has come around so much, and her "talking" sounded like she wanted my help. Well, my Rottie is deaf, and I am almost blind I couldn't see her, and (Lady)Bug couldn't hear her, but when Bug SAW her, BAM -- thought for sure I was going down. And Charity has "no fear" of dogs, so she proceeded to approach me And, Bug is STRONG, and even pulling her leash back, well, w/ all my "problems", it was tough.. I finally got Bug back into house and went back out, into the blizzard, to see if I could get Charity.. I was out for over THREE hours! I was able to scruff her when in yard, but she freaked (NO claws!!! She has come a long way...). But, having hardly any use of my right arm, I had to let her go.. So, "we" decided to go out to barn.. And, while there, guess who comes out? BART I was shocked!! He had been in the blankets, etc. I have over crate, I guess "trying" to keep warm.. But, I was there w/ food, and he came out... By this time, over 3 hours, I had to sit down in my recliner to rest.. And, then, Charity, and Bart, come up, rub against my legs, so I figured the time was right!!! I reached down, scruffed Charity, then found out, she "allowed" me to just hold her... So, I had to make the long journey back to house, with her (peacefully) in my arms.. (I had closed the barn door, and left the food in the well-insulated crate for Bart) My main fear was Charity freaking once we got in house 'cause my dogs, 4 BIG, are very loud..They love cats, but, can act weird when a new one comes in. Thank heavens, after I gave them a talking-to when entering, none of them barked, got up, or did anything So, I got my Charity into a large crate and there she remains... (She was tested - negative, but that was over a year agoAnd w/ my Puma, recently being diagnosed w/ FIP & toxo, well, I didn't want to expose any of my babies Charity will be re-tested, and we'll go from there...) Back to Bart. When I got back to barn, he was in crate, so I closed the door When I looked him over, well, now I am really concerned.. He is so bloated Thought maybe I got a diff. pregnant female, but, he still has his equipment... And, Bart, was always SO feral, I could never get close to him. Now, he allowed me to pet him, seemed to like it. But, while stroking him, I could feel his backbone.And other bones. Made me wonder just what his problem is. Also, his eyes are "clouded", like cataracts or glaucoma (?). He also looks OLD. Probably is, he's been around here since I've been here...2 1/2 years now... So, I wormed him, and did not find anything in his feces...And, as bloated as he was, I figured if it was worms they'd be as big as a snake. But, NOTHINGI even used my magnifying glass. I worry now that maybe it's FIP. (A very recent topic on list lately.) I called my rescue partner & she is going to get us a vet appt. But, before I neuter him, I am going to have him hospitalized 'til we get all the blood test results back.. Depending on "what" the results are, I will be faced w/ having to decide what to do. I do have another rescue buddy that has converted her barn into a shelter, w/ indiviual homes, I just don't know.. So, Bart is still in crate in barn.. It's very well insulated, and, when I was "able", I had insulated parts of barn, filling cracks, etc. I just worry 'cause we're in a deep-freeze. He has a good bed, lots of thermals, and the crate is also insulated, w/ thermal on the outside... But, it's so cold and he's so old. He is eating, and I do venture out (slowly & carefully) to feed and water him daily. One thing I noticed, his water only had a partial skim on top, not frozen thru. So, I guess the barn is pretty well insulated. Just pray we can get to vet early this week... I would have written sooner, but besides being over-whatever, my room mate was NOT too happy. But, I told him, da-m it, I survived the MVA 'cause I have work to do - and it IS my rescue work!!! And, prior to getting Charity & Bart, I was ready to call it a daySo depressed, I "questioned" my reason for still being alive. Now, knowing Bart & Charity are safe, that gave me a reason to go on He at first told me, Charity could NOT be in house, blah-blah-blah, but it seems he has chang
Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE--Animal Planet
Thank you SO much Leah!!! Now, if I can get these eyes to work, I'll send that e-mail. (Was going to do it earlier but the eyes gave out.. It's he!!! only having "one" eye... So I should have wrote "the eye gave out Anyone notice I couldn't even spell euthanize And, that's not even a word on AOL's spell-check.. One more reason I detest AOL.) And, the shelter I've been associated with for umpteen years, has TWO large areas for Felv's. (And two for FIV's. One for the poor babies that have both.) I LOVED MC's response Hugs, Patti & her clan
Re: Bandit is NEGATIVE
Yeah! Patti & her clan PS - OT, but did anyone see Animal Planet (Animal Cops - Houston) last night? I was FURIOUS They found a stray and repeatedly said that Felv was ALWAYS fatal and they euphemize any cat that tests positive!!! G, they're going to get an informative e-mail from me! That's if I remember Just imagine how many people saw that & will euthanize those babies Not to mention how many other shelters will do it because the Houston SPCA has that policy..
Re: Bandit: toxoplasmosis
In a message dated 2/1/07 2:01:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Patti, If he is doing so much better, I think it is likely that he has toxo and not fip. It can be very hard to tell fip from toxo-- toxo can cause pretty much all the symptoms and lab work of fip. but it can be cured with clindamycin, and they are supposed to start feeling better within 3 days. How much pred is he on? Michelle Michelle- My Puma is on 5 mg. pred. 2X daily (I sent you an individual e-mail on my Puma...did you get it? I am NOT happy w/ AOL!!! Another L-O-N-G story.I 've been on AOL foreverl...and it's getting so much worse -.Maybe it's just me...) Anyway, for an old boy. his "recovery" has been totally amazing.. When I got the diagnosis, the FIP really made me think, having dealt with it before, sadlySo, I NEVER questioned it having lost 2 of my boys before (confirmed thru necropsies). I just felt guilty 'cause I did not get my "personal clan" tested at the time.. And, Dusty & Oden NEVER showed symptoms, they just died, as if it was a heart attack. Dusty was old, a rescued street cat from Baltimore, so we had NO history But Oden was just 2, and I had him since a bottle baby...Never sick, he just dropped dead, suddenly. Freaked me out, BIG TIME! So I "figured" the FIP was gotten from my fosters.. But, since Puma has been on clindo & pred. his "recovery" is amazing!! I pray it was only toxo.. But, at his age (ancient), I thought "if" it was FIP too.well... You have given me inspiration, which I really need now. ( I just lost Fred, my "cannibalistic" gold fish, so today has been a B-A-D day. I loved that fish, despite his "faults" - Wouldn't even put him in outside pond, he really gave me such pleasure..) Now I "wonder" that "if" I had put him in pond, well, maybe he'd still be alive.. He ate all his aquarium buddies, maybe he was lonely being solo in tank... (I have been "wondering" if Belinda can add him to next CLS - I've seen dogs, but a fish? He was special..) Anyway, thanks so much for your inspiration, I really needed that. How is your sweet Lucy doing? And, yes, she is in my prayers every night. I also believe in the "power of prayer", just wish I didn't have SO many people praying for me after MVA.. I am going to also send this to your personal e-mail, please, please, please, let me know you've recv'd. it... , Patti (and her clan)
Re: Bandit: toxoplasmosis
Right now, I am (trying to) deal with my Puma's diagnosis - FIP (dry) AND toxo.. The vet I use I really like, and have much faith in him. He went over the "specific" test results, and, I kind of DO believe him... When I got home from hosp., my Puma was just not right... He was eating & drinking MUCH... Also, sleeping a lot. (But, heck, he IS 17+ so the excessive sleeping I thought, went along with his advanced age) He also had loose stools, very vocal, but not in a painful tone, chronic ear infections that NOTHING would help... I thought, due to his age, it was probably kidney or thyroid. But, his kidney and thyroid tests came back FINE... When I got the results of tests done (a gazillion), and vet said it was toxo and FIP, I was floored! Years ago, I did have an FIP epidemic in my home while fostering, lost TWO of my babies (confirmed thru necropsies...), and I wonder just how long FIP can go undetected...(???)) I didn't know much about toxo, and all my furbabies are indoor only... So, I DO wonder just how my Puma got it. (???) I no longer foster for shelter, and all my new "rescues" are upstairs in the master bedroom and bath... So, he was NOT exposed to any new cats.. Anyway, Puma was given clindo and prednisone,also daily sub-q fluids, and I swear, he is doing so much better..Still has the "ear problems" though... I just know that since he started on both meds, he's so much better (I only pray that when his time comes, he goes peacefully in his sleep. I have promised ALL my furbabies I will never let them suffer.. That's the least I can do for them, as they have done SOOO much for me. I swear, they are the reason I survived my MVA, because I "needed them". What can I say? I prefer non-humans over humans) All I know is it was the clindo & pred that did improve his "symptoms".. In fact, I no longer have to give him daily sub-q fluids. Wish I could help you out with more "specifics", but I can only relate to my Puma's experience Best wishes, good luck and for both you and Bandit Patti
Re: Prayers needed for Lucy-- very serious
Michelle, My prayers are w/ you and Lucy... Hugs, Patti
Re: FIP diagnosis?
Yes, very weird indeed. TOO weird. I can not believe that they could not get a sample. I'd be looking for a new (and competent) vet for sure. When I was at the shelter, even us "dumb" vet techs were able to get fluid samples from those cats suspected of having FIP... The procedure is NOT rocket science.. JMO, Hugs, Patti
