Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Little Houdini's :) -Original Message- From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 12:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) YOU WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULD

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] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 11:26 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Yep, that's what I do. She is still a huge challenge. I got a Dr. Hanson's bullseye pill gun, and that is helping, but sometimes I still have to try

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: Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> Sent: Oct 27, 2015 7:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) I would be careful about using erythropoeitin or darbepoeitin, both have been shown to eventually (but not in every case) cause the cat's own immune

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lvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Amani, was one of the other medications darbepoetin alfa (Aranesp)?  I just heard about that today when I called my local vet to see if he has ever used Winstrol.  He hasn't used it fo

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Many in which group have used it? -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Oct 27, 2015 10:07 PM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > >To me, if my babies get better, I don't care what did it as long as it

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Just found this paper about a study involving dogs and nitrogen retention, and how Winstrol builds muscle tissue. It also talks about injectable vs. tablets: http://www.resynch.com/pahimages/pdfdocs/Explorations_WinstrolV.pdf Marsha ___ Felvtalk

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I got some venison and duck of some brand that was new to me. The venison was a big hit for a few days because it was such a novelty. Now none of the cats will eat it. So, I'm saving it for later, when it might be "new" again. LOL. Pilling is extremely difficult with Peaches. She will

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felvtalk Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Many in which group have used it? > > -Original Message- > >From: dlg...@windstream.net > >Sent: Oct 27, 2015 10:07 PM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: [Felvt

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Margo, Thanks for the warning about the iron injections. Peaches is very fussy about her food, so I am not sure if she will put up with Pet-Tinic, but I might give it a try. She was low on potassium, and even the lightest sprinkle of potassium gluconate powder in her food would cause her to

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Note on the origin of this article. It appears to be a newsletter from the manufacturer. Marsha On 10/28/2015 10:09 AM, Marsha wrote: Just found this paper about a study involving dogs and nitrogen retention, and how Winstrol builds muscle tissue. It also talks about injectable vs.

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Cats are so picky about their food. I had gotten Blue Buffalo's weight control which is chicken . They look at it like I was trying to poison them so had to get Rabbit and Duck which are their favorites. Mixed them in with the chicken and they picked out the rabbit and duck and left the

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Good point!! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of swacht1...@comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) another reason for warming the food is that in the “wild

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vtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > Marsha > > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:18 AM > > To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > I got some venison

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tson > Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > One thing I do for my Tigger is “ever so slightly” warm the food in the > microwave….like 10 seconds, not to make it very warm at all, but

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ukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:18 AM To: dlg...@windstream.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) I got some venison and duck of some brand that was new to me. The venison was a big hit for a few da

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e he seems to be afraid of food that is too warm. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 9:45 AM To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstr

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] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) I got some venison and duck of some brand that was new to me. The venison was a big hit for a few days because it was such a novelty. Now none of the cats will eat it. So, I'm saving it for later, when it might be "new" again. LOL. Pilling is extremely

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another reason for warming the food is that in the “wild” they ate what they killed – and it was warm blooded. From: Ardy Robertson Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) One thing I do for my Tigger is “ever

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Amani, was one of the other medications darbepoetin alfa (Aranesp)? I just heard about that today when I called my local vet to see if he has ever used Winstrol. He hasn't used it for ages, but suggested that if anemia was the only issue, darbepoetin might be a possibility. This would be

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I would be careful about using erythropoeitin or darbepoeitin, both have been shown to eventually (but not in every case) cause the cat's own immune system to recognize the drug and destroy it, which would be less of a problem if that was it, but unfortunately it also starts to recognize the cats

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My vet said that darbepoetin is a newer drug that he felt is safer. But I'm not sure how much he has used it. I haven't even started researching it. The cyclophosphamide suppresses Peaches' immune system, so it may have a protective effect from the immune system. Still looking for a source

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ubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) My vet said that darbepoetin is a newer drug that he felt is safer. But I'm not sure how much he has used it. I haven't even started researching it. The cyclophosphamide suppresses Peaches' immune system, so it may have a protective effect from

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in that aspect as well. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Sent: October-27-15 7:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Amani, was one of the other medications darbepoetin alfa (Aranesp)? I just

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Just because it is new, does not make it effective or safe. Look at all the Human drugs that now have lawyers saying "did you take this? I can get you lots of money." One of the doctors my other worked for would not use a drug until it was on the market for 10 years because it usually takes

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

Glad to hear that Merlot is eating some on his own. That’s great! Regarding AZT, you might check the Feline Retrovirus Guidelines paper for more information: http://www.catvets.com/guidelines/practice-guidelines/retrovirus-management-guidelines

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Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 9:34 AM To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) I got the vibe from the vet last night that we were going down hill, and I had lost a lot of hope. I w

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GOOD NEWS! MY PRAYERS FOR HIS CONTINUED RECOVERY. Lance wrote: > Glad to hear that Merlot is eating some on his own. That’s great! > > Regarding AZT, you might check the Feline Retrovirus Guidelines paper for > more information: > >

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be able to treat the FeLV itself, but we > CAN manage/treat the symptoms. > > Best to Merlot, and you, > > Margo > > -Original Message- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 8:12 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozo

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sio <mde...@gmail.com> > To: Margo <toomanykitti...@earthlink.net>; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 10:34 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > I got the vibe from the vet last night that we were going down hill, and

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where his blood counts are, or if it > is in his bone marrow. I think I now know some additional questions I can be > asking. > > > > Thank you so much! > > Ardy Robertson > > Osseo, Wisconsin > > > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailt

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e, and have been > wonderful enough to admit when I am successful when they had predicted > nothing but failure. > > > > Amani > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > <mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org> ] On Behalf Of

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n giving up and > euthanizing – give them a chance! > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya > D'Alessio > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:19 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol

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part of this group and learn. > > Ardy Robertson > > > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya > D'Alessio > Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [F

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; Robertson > Sent: October-20-15 10:13 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > Hello – can I chime in here a bit? My cat Tigger is on Interferon (7 days on > then 7 days off and repeat) for FeLV. I think it might be helping but his &

Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))

the symptoms.Best to Merlot, and you,Margo-Original Message- From: Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> Sent: Oct 20, 2015 8:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Good news; his temperature is down to a "high normal", bad news; he has

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advice, and have been wonderful enough to admit when I am successful when > they had predicted nothing but failure. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* October-20-15 1:56

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hen I am successful when they had predicted > nothing but failure. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya > D'Alessio > Sent: October-20-15 1:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol

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] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: October-20-15 2:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree with you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets. With my last cat, I

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PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I will pass it along to my vet immediately. He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and won't eat, I am

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Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I will pass it along to my vet immediately. He is mentioning AZT and interferon, but Merlot has a persistent fever and won't eat, I am assuming his body is not up to those drugs yet. He's currently on doxy, prednisolone and

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no formula for mosr people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. Sorry I can't be more help with that.Margo-Original Message- From: Maya D'Alessio <mde...@gmail.com> Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanoz

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no formula for > mosr people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. > Sorry I can't be more help with that. > > Margo > > > -Original Message- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

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ve. There really is no formula for mosr > people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. Sorry I > can't be more help with that. > > Margo > > > -Original Message- > From: Maya D'Alessio > Sent: Oct 20, 2015 1:56 PM >

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where your cat’s situation is critical and there is no time for dicking around. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: October-20-15 8:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Good news

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ll things considered :) It was two weeks until Gribs was eating >> normally, and seemed as if he might live. There really is no formula for >> mosr people. I always read "you'll know", but I'm not sure that's true. >> Sorry I can't be more help with that. >> >

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...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agree with you that I do see the negative aspect of outlook from vets

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Ardy Robertson Sent: October-20-15 10:13 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Hello – can I chime in here a bit? My cat Tigger is on Interferon (7 days on then 7 days off and repeat) for FeLV. I

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questions I can be asking. Thank you so much! Ardy Robertson Osseo, Wisconsin From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani Oakley Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R

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-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 12:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Oh wow, yes I am in Waterloo. Can you send me your vet's information and I will pass it along to my vet immediately

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elvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 20, 2015 1:08 PM > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Thank you Amani, I really, really appreciate the support. I will agr

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 9:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Thanks Ardy. He just was grooming for about a minute, so that was exciting! I've been cleaning him