Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Mine shows it exactly as you describe. However, if I don't independently reselect the document style then I don't get A4. I don't have to select the page sizes only reselect the doc style. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 04:21, Florence + Michael launay-c...@gmx.net wrote: The Setup Wizard

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Florence + Michael
It could be that you also need to edit pagesizes.txt to put A4 at the top: my pagesizes.txt is already so edited. Michael On 9 Jan 2011, at 10:33, Steve Parker wrote: Mine shows it exactly as you describe. However, if I don't independently reselect the document style then I don't get A4.

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I've already done this. I removed US Letter completely from this file. I still have to deselect then reselect the document style and only then do I get A4 - without touching the page sizes. Any other ideas - there may be some basic, obvious thing I've never learnt. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011,

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Florence + Michael
For the moment I don't know, but maybe we can work it out. When you open the setup wizard: - what document style is selected? - what page size is selected? Michael On 9 Jan 2011, at 11:52, Steve Parker wrote: I've already done this. I removed US Letter completely from this file. I still

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
open setup wizard - select string quartet (already linked to a homemade doc style which includes score and parts at A4 size) But.. the page sizes say US Letter even though it is not in my pagesizes.txt! If I just click on my doc style it still doesn't change. I have to click on a different

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Florence + Michael
More questions: What page size is selected _before_ you select String Quartet? Once you have got the page sizes menu to read A4, can you still find US Letter in it if you click on it? Michael On 9 Jan 2011, at 13:44, Steve Parker wrote: open setup wizard - select string quartet (already

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
What page size is selected _before_ you select String Quartet? Letter Once you have got the page sizes menu to read A4, can you still find US Letter in it if you click on it? Yes - and all the others deleted from my 'pagesizes.txt' Steve ___

[Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Something else I've been kludging.. I set up right and left page numbers in my score. I don't want these in the parts, but I can't see where to specify this? Thanks! Steve ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
In my previous notation program I used a lot of empty text boxes to stop things from appearing in print. I had the option of moving the graphics layer of any element (including these white boxes) up or down. Is there any equivalent in Finale? Thanks! Steve P.

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Florence + Michael
In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited. The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the library in your user folder, not in the main library.

{Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/9/2011 8:42 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I set up right and left page numbers in my score. I don't want these in the parts, but I can't see where to specify this? The general Finale rule is that things you do in the score also happen in the parts, and things you do in a part only happen in

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/9/2011 8:45 AM, Steve Parker wrote: In my previous notation program I used a lot of empty text boxes to stop things from appearing in print. I had the option of moving the graphics layer of any element (including these white boxes) up or down. Is there any equivalent in Finale? Yes, you

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I've used them to hide bits of staves, bits of notes etc. Things that I want to half hide. For modern scores. How can I get an opaque box? Does anyone have any info on layers? Thanks! Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:24, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 8:45 AM, Steve Parker wrote: In my

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 9, 2011 8:45 am, Steve Parker wrote: In my previous notation program I used a lot of empty text boxes to stop things from appearing in print. I had the option of moving the graphics layer of any element (including these white boxes) up or down. Is there any equivalent in

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited. The page sizes menu in the Setup Wizard is constructed from the pagesizes.txt file. On Mac, if you're using Finale 2011, you have to edit the file in the library in your user folder, not in the main library.

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Great, I unshowed (unshew?) then unlinked then reshowed (reshew...?) ;-) Worked as explained. Thanks! Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:19, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 8:42 AM, Steve Parker wrote: I set up right and left page numbers in my score. I don't want these in the parts, but I

[Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Is it possible to send a score file to someone? I have an issue that seems like a bug and a general question. Finally enough of a break in between work to get my chops up.. Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:09, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: 2. Partial measure selection means staff styles can hide most anything else of your choice. Ah.. this helps. Thanks! Steve P. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Florence + Michael
It should default to the first page size in the list. Make sure that this is exactly the same as the one in your document style. Michael On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:59, Steve Parker wrote: In that case, the pagesizes.txt that Finale is using is not the one you edited. The page sizes menu in the

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 9, 2011 10:07 am, Steve Parker wrote: How can I get an opaque box? Shape designer. Welcome to hell. :) Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
On 9 Jan 2011, at 14:09, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Now I understand why all the questions. I used Finale decades (just about) ago. Then used Igor Engraver pretty much from the beginning and as a beta tester. Almost anything suggested was incorporated! For various reasons Igor died. I

Re: [Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Florence + Michael
Maybe I can help. How big is the file? Michael On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:10, Steve Parker wrote: Is it possible to send a score file to someone? I have an issue that seems like a bug and a general question. Finally enough of a break in between work to get my chops up.. Steve P.

[Finale] groups in document styles

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Last question.. I have a nicely set up doc style, but I can't seem to get instrument groupings to stick? If I select string quartet then my homemade doc style that I've deleted (repeatedly) instrument groupings in, I still get the Violins I and II grouped and bracketed. Is this because it

Re: [Finale] groups in document styles

2011-01-09 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Very likely so, but then you should be able to hide bracket and text from the attributes’ window for that unwanted group. Klaus From: Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 4:57:15 PM Subject: [Finale] groups in

Re: [Finale] groups in document styles

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I can hide, but wonder why I can't get it that way by default? Steve On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:32, Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre wrote: Very likely so, but then you should be able to hide bracket and text from the attributes’ window for that unwanted group. Klaus

{Spam} RE: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Richard Yates
I used Finale decades (just about) ago. Then used Igor Engraver pretty much from the beginning and as a beta tester. Hi Steve. Welcome to Finale. Any chance that you have a secret Noteheads code or address that can persuade them to stop sending me monthly emails? I sometimes imagine a time

{Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/9/2011 10:03 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Great, I unshowed (unshew?) then unlinked then reshowed (reshew...?) You actually don't need to manually unlink; unlinking happens automatically when you do something which applies in one place but not the other. When you do the show in score with

Re: {Spam} RE: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
hehe.. I think it's sent from a galaxy light years away where it is still functioning software.. Unfortunately a story of a genius who sold his software to a group of people who had no idea what they'd bought. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 16:53, Richard Yates wrote: I used Finale decades

Re: {Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I can't find what the override key might be? Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 18:14, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 10:03 AM, Steve Parker wrote: Great, I unshowed (unshew?) then unlinked then reshowed (reshew...?) You actually don't need to manually unlink; unlinking happens automatically

{Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/9/2011 1:30 PM, Steve Parker wrote: I can't find what the override key might be? On Windows, it's Ctrl. On Mac -- Opt? Open up the help file, click on Index, then go to the Linked Parts entry and click on the Override key entry. Aaron. ___

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Have discovered the delights of the shape designer. I quite like it - it's not full of stuff I don't understand! I can't find how to have an opaque box. Is it possible? Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 15:16, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Sun, January 9, 2011 10:07 am, Steve Parker wrote: How

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 9, 2011 2:28 pm, Steve Parker wrote: Have discovered the delights of the shape designer. I quite like it - it's not full of stuff I don't understand! I can't find how to have an opaque box. Is it possible? There are line and fill options. Dennis

{Spam} Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Am 08.01.11 18:33, schrieb Dennis Bathory-Kitsz: Johannes at one point mentioned that it was possible. If he's listening, maybe he can remember. I probably haven't been following this enough, but if the question is whether I know how to get playback for microtones, no, I don't. To be

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Didn't think to look at the menu bar.. Perfect - this is better than I'd hoped! Thanks! Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 19:29, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Sun, January 9, 2011 2:28 pm, Steve Parker wrote: Have discovered the delights of the shape designer. I quite like it - it's not full of

Re: {Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sun Jan 9, at SundayJan 9 2:08 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 1:30 PM, Steve Parker wrote: I can't find what the override key might be? On Windows, it's Ctrl. On Mac -- Opt? Open up the help file, click on Index, then go to the Linked Parts entry and click on the Override key

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
What you won't understand is why it never reacts the way you think it should once you get it into the score. I can't even get a shape expression to appear in the same place twice when I look at it. I can't stand the damned thing, and never use it as a result. christopher On Sun Jan 9, at

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Hi Johannes, thanks for reply. On the one hand I had Finale's powerful Key Sig tool which allows me to have any number of accidentals between any diatonic steps. On the other the Aria player which allowed me to import a 49 note an octave Scala file. It seems that it is Garritan itself that

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Yes.. I'd just about got there.. Turning off 'allow horizontal stretching' helps. It would be good to attach it to the page rather than to a measure. Actually that would be good for all expressions too. For me I think it is workable as the very last step before publishing. Steve P. On 9 Jan

[Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
The command key works for me, but it doesn't seem to override the showing and hiding of page numbers between score and parts. 'Unlink' works fine though. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 19:43, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sun Jan 9, at SundayJan 9 2:08 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 1/9/2011 1:30

{Spam} Re: [Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Steve Parker wrote: Is it possible to send a score file to someone? Sometimes. The person to whom you intend to send the score file has to have the same, or a later version of Finale to open the file; if they have a later version than you do, and they edit the file, if they send the edited

Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
I just tried it, and it worked perfectly for me. In the score, I control-clicked the page number and selected Hide. Then I did it again but with the Command key pressed as well, and selected Show. Now it shows in the score, hidden in the parts. Since the page number text block is the same for

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 9, 2011 2:50 pm, Steve Parker wrote: It seems that it is Garritan itself that can't accept more than the normal black notes. I *think* it's because Finale may allow many steps, but if you export the Midi, you'll see it's still sending the standard chromatic steps, not using the

[Finale] Program Hang

2011-01-09 Thread timothy key price
Asking for advice, please. Bought Finale 2011 in November and have been using it, learning its new features, Garritan, etc. without problems. Then at the end of a session using my MacBrook Pro, Finale froze up. I quit Finale and relaunched it and it now hangs, even when I try to open a

Re: {Spam} Re: [Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Of course. I have a string quartet score with 'Lento' at the start. It is in the Score and Violin 1 parts only. I can delete it but not assign it to all parts. It is simply missing. I also have another instance similar. A 'crotchet =' tempo indication is showing up at the top of the score

Re: [Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 9, 2011 4:02 pm, Steve Parker wrote: I have a string quartet score with 'Lento' at the start. It is in the Score and Violin 1 parts only. I can delete it but not assign it to all parts. It is simply missing. I also have another instance similar. A 'crotchet =' tempo

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:04, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Have you had any luck with microtonal scores in other notation software? No. I'm happy that Finale makes it so easy to attach the accidentals. I don't really require the playback. Just had a moment of excitement when I connected the dots

Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
Have tried to do exactly what you say a hundred times now. Control click in score - hides. All OK. Control click again, then select 'Show' with Command held down. Not doing anything for me. Stays hidden everywhere. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 20:46, Christopher Smith wrote: I just tried it, and

Re: [Finale] Score help

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
This was the solution. Who new that there was another score list in the 'Category Designer'?? All but me probably. Thanks! Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:11, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: On Sun, January 9, 2011 4:02 pm, Steve Parker wrote: I have a string quartet score with 'Lento' at the

[Finale] {Spam} More bugs

2011-01-09 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
I skipped Fin09 and Fin10, just to find there are some more bugs or undesired behaviours in Fin11 than in Fin08, apparently. I found that the the changes in the additional space applied to multimeasure rests do not stay. They actually change at first, just to change back after the next action.

[Finale] {Spam} Measure numbers

2011-01-09 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
I think this is a sort of a bug (as I don't think it is the intended behaviour). When in Program Options/View, Display defined measure numbers is selected, and at the same time, some measures in the score are forced not to be included in the numbering, some processes linked to measures (like

Re: [Finale] Program Hang

2011-01-09 Thread Chuck Israels
First thing to try is to trash the Finale preferences and rebuild them. Thing is, I've forgotten where the preference file is stored! I'm looking for it, and will report, if I find it. Chuck On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:03 PM, timothy key price wrote: Asking for advice, please. Bought Finale

Re: [Finale] {Spam} Measure numbers

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, that one is a very annoying bug! Please open a case with Tech Support so they get more complaints about it, which will move it up the list of things to be fixed. Christopher On Sun Jan 9, at SundayJan 9 4:29 PM, Rafael L. Junchaya wrote: I think this is a sort of a bug (as I don't

Re: [Finale] {Spam} More bugs

2011-01-09 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I don't know about the multimeasure rests not staying at a desired width. Rehearsal marks have worked perfectly for me. Not sure exactly what you are describing, but I've never seen it do that. Rafael L.

Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
Are you sure you're not confusing the light orange of unlinked items with the only slightly ghosted colour of hidden items? Print a test page (to PDF if you don't want to waste paper) and see for yourself. I have set my orange unlinked colour to be darker and more saturated and my ghost

Re: [Finale] Program Hang

2011-01-09 Thread Eric Dannewitz
That is usually caused by a bad audio unit/vst plugin. Go to your Library/Audio/Plug-ins and disable some of the plugins. If Finale crashes, you can usually gleam what caused it by the crash log. timothy key

Re: [Finale] {Spam} More bugs

2011-01-09 Thread Christopher Smith
To make measures rest keep their size, turn OFF Automatic Music Spacing. Spacing the music always resets measure widths. Are you using auto-sequencing rehearsal letters? If you want ONE odd one, you have to make it NON sequencing. I copy the appearance of the sequencing ones, except to make it

Re: [Finale] Program Hang

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
User: Finale: Preferences: Finale 20** Preferences Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Chuck Israels wrote: First thing to try is to trash the Finale preferences and rebuild them. Thing is, I've forgotten where the preference file is stored! I'm looking for it, and will report, if I find

[Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Good day: In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have 'fort' Is it considered legitimate to use italic bold if I am trying to duplicate what the source has or just use simple italics? It's definitely easier bolded, and plus the standard dynamic fonts are bold. Thanks Kim

Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
On 1/9/2011 4:21 PM, Steve Parker wrote: Have tried to do exactly what you say a hundred times now. Control click in score - hides. All OK. Control click again, then select 'Show' with Command held down. Not doing anything for me. Stays hidden everywhere. I think this is because the parts are

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Jan 2011 at 17:50, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have 'fort' Is it considered legitimate to use italic bold if I am trying to duplicate what the source has or just use simple italics? It's definitely easier bolded, and plus the

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions. I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in an italic script. I guess that's bad on my part. Here's a screen shot of what I have now:

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Jan 2011 at 18:25, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions. I initially use them because in the sources, dynamics are written in an italic script. I guess that's bad on

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Ryan Beard
Curious, why do you have the repeat sign on the other side of the time signature? On Jan 9, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Kim Patrick Clow telem...@gmail.com wrote: I removed the italics, because after your comment, I realize that typically in my own editions, I use italics for editorial additions. I

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
Because it's within a sub-section of a multi-section movement, that's not the start of a new movement, even though it looks like one. Tempo di Minuetto - Allegro with a Da capo marking at the end to repeat the first section up to the fermata. On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Ryan Beard

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I would consider it legitimate, especially if duplicating a source. Consistency is king. It should have a full-stop after it as it is an abbreviation. Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 22:50, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Good day: In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have

Re: [Finale] page number question

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
That is exactly what I'm doing.. I will follow your advice! Thanks, Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:51, Christopher Smith wrote: Are you sure you're not confusing the light orange of unlinked items with the only slightly ghosted colour of hidden items? Print a test page (to PDF if you don't

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
Don't forget to assign your blank box expression to a metatool. Otherwise, if you enter it 'manually' into the score a number of times from the same shape (Expression), and change one of them, it will change all of them. The same if you copy one from one system to the other. Also write to

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Matthew Hindson (gmail)
If you don't care about playback, I created my Accidentals font to enable microtonal notation. What I do is replace the characters for unused accidentals in a piece e.g. x, bb, (b) or (x) with microtonal accidentals, using the relevant Document Options. Obviously this is limiting in terms

Re: [Finale] fort. markings

2011-01-09 Thread John Howell
At 5:50 PM -0500 1/9/11, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: Good day: In several sources I am working on, instead of the usual 'f I have 'fort' Is it considered legitimate to use italic bold if I am trying to duplicate what the source has or just use simple italics? It's definitely easier bolded, and

{Spam} Re: [Finale] {Spam} default file (another question)

2011-01-09 Thread Rafael L. Junchaya
Oh, this is simply amazing... I have followed every suggestion here. I have changed the page sizes in every doc style and default file, I have edited the pagesizes.txt file, but I don't get but Letter size by default and it does not change whatever doc style I select. I went even further:

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, January 9, 2011 7:19 pm, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: If you don't care about playback, I created my Accidentals font to enable microtonal notation. The original question was playback, but if that's not important, your font or Texier's font Microtona are great for this. Dennis

Re: [Finale] Program Hang

2011-01-09 Thread timothy key price
Wow, that was easy. Worked like a charm. Thank you very much. tim On Jan 9, 2011, at 5:04 PM, Steve Parker wrote: User: Finale: Preferences: Finale 20** Preferences Steve P. On 9 Jan 2011, at 21:28, Chuck Israels wrote: First thing to try is to trash the Finale preferences and rebuild

Re: [Finale] Microtonal Playback

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
I do it exactly as you describe. I use the font by Andrián Pertout for Ben Johnston's notation. Steve P. On 10 Jan 2011, at 00:19, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: If you don't care about playback, I created my Accidentals font to enable microtonal notation. What I do is replace the

Re: [Finale] blank boxes

2011-01-09 Thread Steve Parker
On 10 Jan 2011, at 00:25, Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: Don't forget to assign your blank box expression to a metatool. Otherwise, if you enter it 'manually' into the score a number of times from the same shape (Expression), and change one of them, it will change all of them. The same if