For my purposes, I can take practically any file created in any version
of MSWord, read it, print it with the same formatting as in Word, edit
and share it with others who may be using LibreOffice or MSWord without
any difficulties. I think I have only come across one or two little
items that
On 8/9/2012 9:26 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
For my purposes, I can take practically any file created in any version
of MSWord, read it, print it with the same formatting as in Word, edit
and share it with others who may be using LibreOffice or MSWord without
any difficulties. I think I have
On 2012-08-09 15:26, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
With MusicXML, you lose everything but the notes, basically.
You have to define MusicXML, which to me sounds like 1.0 in your case.
Not like 3.0 that I suggested.
I just tried to convert a fairly complex score to MusicXML 3 and back to
Fin2012
I probably did use 1.0. But the list you outlined is plenty to keep me
from using that to collaborate with others. MusicXML could work in the
very early sketch stages of a collaboration. But, for example, if I
want to send the file to the drummer to see if he has any suggestions
about the
That is a HUGE improvement over earlier versions. Thanks for
detailing that. Would we expect similar results between files from
different Finale versions?
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT
On 2012-08-09 16:51, Raymond Horton wrote:
That is a HUGE improvement over earlier versions. Thanks for
detailing that. Would we expect similar results between files from
different Finale versions?
The best would probably be to test how it work for your own kind of music.
According to what
Like others, I wasn't even aware the product was still alive. About
once a month somebody sends me a WPD , which of course I can't open.
One of those guys is still using Windows 95.
This loosely relates to the Dark Ages concept of file compatibility that
the Finale folks have followed. It
On 2012-08-07 16:22, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
This loosely relates to the Dark Ages concept of file compatibility that
the Finale folks have followed. It is never a good business model, when
you are essentially in the business of collaboration, to make it very
difficult for people to share
On 07.08.2012 16:22, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Like others, I wasn't even aware the product was still alive. About
once a month somebody sends me a WPD , which of course I can't open.
Even though I prefer working with WordPerfect, I do make sure to convert
my files into MSWord format before I
On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Jari Williamsson
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:
If the MSWord file compatibility in LibreOffice is compatible enough
for you, MusicXML 3.0 exchange should be sufficient for music notation
exchange as well.
Best regards,
Jari Williamsson
Good
On Tue, August 7, 2012 3:18 pm, Raymond Horton wrote:
Good to know! However, I generally need more precision in my Finale
docs than in my word processor docs.
Yes, because Finale is a very good publishing program. Although a publisher
once required that I produce a book in MSWord, it's not a
On 8/1/2012 9:13 PM, Howard Weiner wrote:
On 02.08.2012 02:24, David H. Bailey wrote:
Why? WordPerfect is still a great word processor -- just because the
company that owns it can't make it the wordprocessor everybody uses, due
to microsoft's monopoly powers, doesn't change the fact that
On 7/31/2012 10:34 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
David,
My understanding is that Sibelius won't be retaining the core group
of staff who have helped shape the software over the past 15 years.
Instead, Avid will be outsourcing continued development of Sibelius
to programmers in Eastern Europe,
On 8/1/2012 5:22 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
WordPerfect is very far from the people who originated it (several
iterations of ownership, actually) yet it remains a robust word
processing environment
David, I was with you -- right up to that instant.
I'm thinking if Finale follows the path of
YeahrobustI don't know of anyone using WordPerfect and didn't
know the company was still making it...
I mean, we know how successful Corel draw is
Sent from my iSomething
--
On Aug 1, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@acticalc.com wrote:
On 8/1/2012 5:22 AM, David H. Bailey
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Eric Dannewitz ericd...@jazz-sax.com wrote:
YeahrobustI don't know of anyone using WordPerfect and didn't
know the company was still making it...
Well despite who you know (and their software choices): WordPerfect is
a mainstay in the legal profession,
On 8/1/2012 2:46 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
On 8/1/2012 5:22 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
WordPerfect is very far from the people who originated it (several
iterations of ownership, actually) yet it remains a robust word
processing environment
David, I was with you -- right up to that instant.
On 02.08.2012 02:24, David H. Bailey wrote:
Why? WordPerfect is still a great word processor -- just because the
company that owns it can't make it the wordprocessor everybody uses, due
to microsoft's monopoly powers, doesn't change the fact that it's still
a great product.
That it is.
+3
+2
On 31/07/2012, at 12:24 AM, Dick Hauser wrote:
+1
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
I cannot see myself ever producing a finished audio product within
Finale, so I'd rather see them put that effort into fixing the many bugs
and annoyances in the basic
Why must it be either/or?
Fix the bugs, keep adding notation capability, keep improving
playback, let it tie my shoes if it wants to.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
On Tue, Jul 31,
On a purely philosophical plane it doesn't have to be either/or. But on
a practical level, it seems that it has to be either/or because as they
have added and improved higher quality playback, they longstanding bugs
haven't been resolved.
But I have a sneaking suspicion that they haven't been
My big worry about any takeover of MakeMusic is that the same thing will happen
to Finale that happened to Concertware back when Jump music bought it from
Great Wave software. It turned out that Jump was only interested in
Concertware to use as the engine for a piano tutorial program and they
On 7/31/2012 2:24 PM, Clif Ashcraft wrote:
My big worry about any takeover of MakeMusic is that the same thing
will happen to Finale that happened to Concertware back when Jump
music bought it from Great Wave software. It turned out that Jump
was only interested in Concertware to use as the
David,
My understanding is that Sibelius won't be retaining the core group of staff
who have helped shape the software over the past 15 years. Instead, Avid will
be outsourcing continued development of Sibelius to programmers in Eastern
Europe, in a pure cost-cutting move. That doesn't exactly
I was not suggesting that playback be eliminated. That is an essential
feature. However, for all of the talk over the years about realistic
playback, my experience is that the most basic things (like getting
swing to work consistently) requires all sorts of fiddling, making the
notion of
+1
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
I cannot see myself ever producing a finished audio product within
Finale, so I'd rather see them put that effort into fixing the many bugs
and annoyances in the basic product.
___
Finale
+2
On 31/07/2012, at 12:24 AM, Dick Hauser wrote:
+1
On Jul 29, 2012, at 10:45 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
I cannot see myself ever producing a finished audio product within
Finale, so I'd rather see them put that effort into fixing the many bugs
and annoyances in the basic product.
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Craig Parmerlee cr...@acticalc.com wrote:
I'd rather see them get all in or get
out with regard to realistic playback.
I really do not think eliminating playback, or scaling back progress
in this area, would be a sensible move.
Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist,
I wonder if anybody has any information or informed opinion abut the
impact of MuseScore on the commercial products (Finale and Sibelius
particularly). I cannot see MuseScore being a significant factor for
professional composers, arrangers and copyists., but that is surely a
small percentage
On 7/20/2012 1:54 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
I wonder if anybody has any information or informed opinion abut the
impact of MuseScore on the commercial products (Finale and Sibelius
particularly). I cannot see MuseScore being a significant factor for
professional composers, arrangers and
On 7/20/2012 3:07 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:
I know that when I taught a music theory class at a middle school a few
years ago I had the students download and use MuseScore. That was 10
sales Finale didn't get.
But because of the ease of use right out of the box, actually, many such
At 10:22 PM -0400 7/20/12, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
Thank you for those comments. I'm not sure that MakeMusic and their
investors are at a point that they would seek input from the user
community, as they have weighty issues on their plate,
Wait, you mean that producing a product that
On 2012-07-19 01:48, Robert Patterson wrote:
Now we begin to see why I think MuseScore is such an important project.
What do you mean by begin? You've kept your standpoint regarding
Finale's future end during the last 10 years or so. Hope Coda can at
least make the Finale open source, PDF is
Believe me, I don't wish any harm on Finale. Quite the contrary. It's just
that I've been around this block too often not to be pessimistic.
One of the good things about MuseScore is that because it is open source,
any perceived limitation can be addressed. Of course that's a huge time
One of the good things about MuseScore is that because it is open
source, any perceived limitation can be addressed. Of course that's
a huge time commitment, so I don't make that comment lightly.
while i support open source wholeheartedly (*), the reality is that
it depends on there being
Holy cow (not my first choice of words)! In light of what's going on
with Sibelius (Avid is closing the British office and moving the
development to offices they currently have in Kiev and somewhere else
that I can't remember, effectively gutting the development team that
made Sibelius into
On 7/17/2012 10:41 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote:
This doesn't sound good.
http://performingarts.uncg.edu/patech/?p=255
I’m emerging from my web development cave to share this, as it could be a
potentially monumental event in the world of music notation software – the
short version is that
On 2012-07-18 12:12, David H. Bailey wrote:
I'm very confused by the LaunchEquity statement that it will have to
invest $10million the next two years to recruit and retain a new CEO --
Hell, I'll move to Eden Prairie and do the job for $4million over 2
years. No, wait, I'll do it for
On 7/18/2012 9:45 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote:
On 2012-07-18 12:12, David H. Bailey wrote:
I'm very confused by the LaunchEquity statement that it will have to
invest $10million the next two years to recruit and retain a new CEO --
Hell, I'll move to Eden Prairie and do the job for $4million
$10 million seems like a drop in the bucket compared to what it would take to
rewrite the entire code base from scratch and do a decent job of it.
Cheers,
- DJA
-
WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
On 18 Jul 2012, at 10:59 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
On 7/18/2012 9:45 AM, Jari
On Wed, July 18, 2012 10:59 am, David H. Bailey wrote:
I wonder who the investors in LaunchEquity Partners, LLC are. I can't
find any information about them online.
http://www.secinfo.com/dsVs6.v2Uc.htm
http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Name.asp?S=jeffrey+a.+koch
On 18 Jul 2012, at 15:59, David H. Bailey wrote:
I wonder who the investors in LaunchEquity Partners, LLC are. I can't
find any information about them online.
--
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
What's the betting on AVID now that they've trashed Sibelius?
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
Let's wait and see. No need to get into a fear frenzy of the unknown.
Dave
--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote:
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer
On 7/18/2012 11:21 AM, Richard Ihnatowicz wrote:
On 18 Jul 2012, at 15:59, David H. Bailey wrote:
I wonder who the investors in LaunchEquity Partners, LLC are. I can't
find any information about them online.
--
David H. Bailey
dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com
What's the betting on
of the unknown.
Dave
--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote:
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
On Wed, July 18
Let's wait and see. No need to get into a fear frenzy of the unknown.
Dave
--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote:
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date
to get into a fear frenzy of the unknown.
Dave
--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
wrote:
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012
bath...@maltedmedia.com
wrote:
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?
To: finale@shsu.edu
Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2012, 11:14 AM
On Wed, July 18, 2012 10:59 am, David H. Bailey wrote:
I wonder who
So true. When Bank of America and Nations bank merged in the late 90s,
everyone was saying how it was going to be great for the San Francisco
office (old hq) and great for the company and employees.
And then shortly afterwards nations bank stopped pretty much all the
employee training and
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family
Let's wait and see. No need to get into a fear frenzy of the unknown.
Dave
--- On Wed, 7/18/12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com wrote:
From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Finale] MakeMusic received a buyout offer?
To: finale
This doesn't sound good.
http://performingarts.uncg.edu/patech/?p=255
I’m emerging from my web development cave to share this, as it could be a
potentially monumental event in the world of music notation software – the
short version is that MakeMusic has received a buyout offer
Hi all,
Here's what I posted on our user forum regarding this development:
I can't speculate or offer any additional information beyond what is
contained in the proposal we received from LaunchEquity Partners, LLC and
the press release we issued this morning regarding the matter. I've linked
to
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