Re: [Fink-devel] Optional usage of Storable.pm

2002-01-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
'; This is simpler: if (eval { require Storable; 1; }) { ... } and it can even be executed multiple times with very little overhead. There's no point in checking %INC, when the eval will either return its last expression, or return undef if failed. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting

Re: [Fink-devel] info file format

2002-01-17 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
is very data-centric (fine for machine-to-machine communication, but a bit awkward for human to machine or even human to human), however, and indent sensitive (think python). I'd vote against moving from RFC822-header-style info files (at present) to YAML. Ugh. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

Re: [Fink-devel] xemacs package is..

2002-01-30 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
it to go to the next item when one isn't available. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite

Re: [Fink-devel] patch for Engine.pm to permit proceed to next entry on fetch-missing

2002-01-31 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
on to the next item if one can't be fetched, instead of dying entirely. This affects *only* fetch-missing. I think the current behavior is rather rude. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix

Re: [Fink-devel] Proposing an XML Format

2002-02-02 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
}{xwin}{cppflags} is active, then $hash-{variant}{xwin} has to be a hashref, stringifying as HASH(0xN). Common error, want to make sure you're not making same. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn

Re: [Fink-devel] XFree86 4.2/XDarwin installation failure

2002-02-04 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
building VNC, and saw all those X-server includes, I went... oh no!. And sure enough, my disk was fsck-ed badly. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy

Re: [Fink-devel] XFree86 4.2/XDarwin installation failure

2002-02-04 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
, and crapped out your disk. I'm about to reload my O/S and move my user files over *again* because of this. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy

Re: [Fink-devel] patch for Engine.pm to permit proceed to next entry on fetch-missing

2002-02-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
-phase_fetch(1); + eval { + $vo-phase_fetch(1); + }; + warn $@ if $@; # turn fatal exceptions into warnings } } } -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl

Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage

2002-02-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
dynamic ones, I just rebuilt my Kyle mod_perl static and this worked well. Until you use both Apache::Request and Apache::Cookie, then Booom! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security

Re: [Fink-devel] RE: [Fink-beginners] Does gnumeric work ...?

2002-02-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal Or, I might just point you at http://www.cvshome.org/dev/patches/http Randal which tells how to patch your CVS to permit exactly what I was Randal describing. :) Or even point out http://www.cpan.org/authors/id/G/GB/GBROCK/ssh2ssl

Re: [Fink-devel] Perl Packages Diff usage

2002-02-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
it in both ways from both A::C and A::R would still be OK. Perhaps. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See

[Fink-devel] fink install audiofile-shlib has odd results

2002-03-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
: no matching version found for audiofile What did I do wrong? Did someone break the parsing for fink install? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy

Re: [Fink-devel] fink install audiofile-shlib has odd results

2002-03-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Justin == Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Justin found it, turns out it was you :P, it's shlibs not shlib Justin fink install audiofile-shlibs, the pkg name is too long and gets cut off. Then we need a way to show that in fink list. How do we get to the too wide names? -- Randal L

Re: [Fink-devel] the documentation etc.

2002-03-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
jan == jan ruzicka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jan Hi jan Could there be an installation of Wiki site for fink's support? Or you could just use swiki.org's free wiki farm instead. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

Re: [Fink-devel] Dealing w/frequent version changes [rsync]

2002-03-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
/old-versions David Would custommirror handle the brokenness of trying to build Python as well? Is anyone working on getting that working again? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix

[Fink-devel] to whomever owns /sw/bin/fink

2002-04-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
The bleeding edge Perl rightfully notes that line 22 of /sw/bin/fink is unportable, and should be replaced with: require 5.6; That suffices. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl

Re: [Fink-devel] to whomever owns /sw/bin/fink

2002-04-13 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal The bleeding edge Perl rightfully notes that line 22 of /sw/bin/fink Randal is unportable, and should be replaced with: Randal require 5.6; Gah. Too early in the morning. require 5.006; Randal That suffices

Re: [Fink-devel] How to install things that the vendor also supplies

2002-04-15 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
(dangerous part) cp /opt/perl/5.7.3/bin/perl /usr/bin/perl. If any script breaks because of that, you can change *its* shebang line to #!/usr/bin/perl5.6.0 to get to Apple's original version. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

[Fink-devel] implication of apr-2002 devel tools

2002-05-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
In the release notes, the apr-2002 devel tools say that the C++ is incompatible with the dec-2001 devel tools. Libs from one will not link against objects from another. How many things does installing apr-2002 actually break? And how can it be fixed? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

[Fink-devel] any cure yet for the 100's of cannot fix prebinding errors?

2002-10-29 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
I see a message here from a week ago. Has anyone looked into this? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See

Re: [Fink-devel] any cure yet for the 100's of cannot fix prebinding errors?

2002-10-29 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
slid? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training

Re: [Fink-devel] Deep dependencies in tcl

2002-11-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
list of packages to be installed There really needs to be a postgresql variant that doesn't build the optional Perl and python and tcl embedding options. Not everyone will need them. How are variations best handled in fink? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777

[Fink-devel] treasure hunt - looking for tidy_src_021006.tgz

2002-11-21 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
that it doesn't need an old version of tidy? Thanks. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open

Re: [Fink-devel] Prompting for user input.

2002-11-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
the *admin* user to ssh or rsh anywhere. If so, this sounds like a tool that I don't want installed in /sw anyway. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing

Re: [Fink-devel] fink check on a non existant package spews error messages

2002-11-28 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
-{$field} and not (lc $value) =~ /^\s*(true|yes|on|1|false|no|off|0)\s*$/) { Validation.pm:265:if (%name_version_fields-{$field} and $value) { Validation.pm:276:unless (%known_fields-{$field} I suspect these were all written by the same confused author. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz

[Fink-devel] refactoring and documenting the Perl Fink:: classes and fink tool

2002-11-30 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
::More-based object-oriented modules so that regression tests can be run to assist with future maintainence and debugging. 1) is anyone already planning this? 2) does anyone else share my pain? 3) if I take this on, who of you might want to help me? Respond to the list or to me. Thanks. -- Randal L

Re: [Fink-devel] refactoring and documenting the Perl Fink:: classes and fink tool

2002-12-01 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Ben == Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben On Saturday, November 30, 2002, at 03:36 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Last week, I tried to write a quick utility that would preen the cruft from my /sw/src directory. You know, those distros that are no longer needed. I thought no problem

Re: [Fink-devel] refactoring and documenting the Perl Fink:: classes and fink tool

2002-12-01 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
to work on it. But I also resent being told that I could have known about something that wasn't documented. Please pay attention to the drift of my message. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl

Re: [Fink-devel] -j[2..] in package builds

2002-12-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training

Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?

2003-01-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
: X X Window System X Version 11 X Window System, Version 11 X11 -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

Re: [Fink-devel] Who should Provide X11 ?

2003-01-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
No, that'd be the *wrong* thing. I need x11 to compile ImageMagick, and it would be nice to have the server installed for a couple of the tools, but I can use convert just fine without the server running. Although it is monday morning, so I may not be following this very well. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz

[Fink-devel] my first post to the x11 mailing list, and update for Fink FAQ

2003-01-08 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
to be updated with the answer, whatever it is. If I get an answer from the x11 list first, I'll forward it here. But if some smart person here has the answer, please speak. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn

Re: [Fink-devel] my first post to the x11 mailing list, and update for Fink FAQ

2003-01-08 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
would you do that programmatically? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open

Re: [Fink-devel] my first post to the x11 mailing list, and update for Fink FAQ

2003-01-08 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Jeremy == Jeremy Erwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jeremy On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:04 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Here's my first post: OK, as the first order of the day, how do I get my delete key to really be a delete key? It worked fine under Xdarwin and the version

Re: [Fink-devel] my first post to the x11 mailing list, and update for Fink FAQ

2003-01-08 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
-wm, and also launches an xclock and two xterms. Where's the one that launches only quartz-wm and a single xterm? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing

[Fink-devel] redux on getting delete key to work in Apple X11

2003-01-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
deletes one character to the left. So, that's what needs to go into the Fink X11 FAQ: How to have the delete key in Apple X11 work like Xdarwin. Can someone who has FAQ authority please copy this there? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED

[Fink-devel] x11, another tale

2003-01-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
And now to through Yet Another Monkey Wrench In, we have... http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ so we need a dummy package that says I have Apple's X11 Server installed. Unless that's already completely and accurately described by something else on the list. -- Randal L. Schwartz

Re: [Fink-devel] Artificial dependencies in the binary distribution

2003-01-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Max == Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max The bug is on your side, Michel. Two possible fixes, either add Max dlcompat to the dependency list, or patch scsh such that it never uses Max dlopen (i.e. patch the configure script). Or have two packages, like emacs vs emacs-nox. -- Randal L

Re: [Fink-devel] perl 5.8 thoughts and testing

2003-01-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
: perl56 or BuildDepends: perl58.) Again, the convention for this is that /sw/bin/perl should link to the active perl. If anything is specific on a version number, then they can link directly to /sw/bin/perl5.8.0 or /sw/bin/perl5.6.0 -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc

[Fink-devel] wishlist for fink remove foo

2003-01-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
-and-anything-that-depends-on-it? I can do it from dselect, but sometimes I don't like that interface. No, s/sometimes/nearly always/, s/don't like/hate/. It'd be nice to have fink recursive-remove foo. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Fink-devel] wishlist for fink remove foo

2003-01-19 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
I've also used). Is this some knowledge you bring from practical use or some secret document? Unfortunately, I don't have anything I want to recursively remove right now, or I would have just tried it. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL

[Fink-devel] for the wishlist: system-$perlmodule, or the moral equivalent

2003-01-20 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
there's a more sane global solution to that. Maybe there could be one large system-perl that provides all the perl requirements for every package. Or maybe just an entry in the config file. Any thoughts on how to do this without breaking everything open? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

Re: [Fink-devel] for the wishlist: system-$perlmodule, or the moral equivalent

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
step? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training

Re: [Fink-devel] for the wishlist: system-$perlmodule, or the moral equivalent

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
nicely with a self-installed Perl installation? Something system-MUMBLE-ish should work, but will require the support of the fink developers. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security

Re: [Fink-devel] for the wishlist: system-$perlmodule, or the moral equivalent

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
the core fink tool to understand this relationship. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite

Re: [Fink-devel] for the wishlist: system-$perlmodule, or the moral equivalent

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
the ground up would certainly tackle this. Unfortunately, I'm recovering from a Q3 and Q4 loss, so every odd ounce of time I've got is spent doing marketing and sales right now so that Q1 doesn't end up in the same toilet. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095

Re: [Fink-devel] for the wishlist: system-$perlmodule, or the moral equivalent

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
follow the right pattern. It'd have to go into the fink bible about what pattern your packages could be. It might be simpler just to have a list of registered keywords though. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

[Fink-devel] redux on system-perlmodules

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
...\n; open INFO_FILE, $INFO_FILE.tmp or die Cannot create $INFO_FILE.tmp: $!; print INFO_FILE END; Package: system-perlmodules Version: 1.0 Revision: @{[time]} Description: Placeholder for self-installed Perl Modules Maintainer: Randal L. Schwartz merlyn

Re: [Fink-devel] redux on system-perlmodules

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal Actually, on second thought, I should conflicts: (everything) but Randal provides: (only the modules I actually have installed). Randal Maybe for version 2. :) Sorry, I hit send too quick... And the *reason* for that is that I don't

Re: [Fink-devel] redux on system-perlmodules

2003-01-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal Actually, on second thought, I should conflicts: (everything) but Randal provides: (only the modules I actually have installed). Randal Maybe for version 2. :) Randal Sorry, I

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Max == Max Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Max One of the last changes to speed up re-index causes a regression. Now Max if I enter e.g. fink list -o when my index is dirty, I get this: Max fink list -o What's fink list -o? It's not documented. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Justin == Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Justin try fink list --help Ahh, another *undocumented* feature. Try finding *that* in either man fink or fink --help. It's not there. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

Re: [Fink-devel] Regression caused by indexing changes

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
that on the mailing list Ben helps noone, it won't get fixed. It's a response to you *in* the mailing list telling me about things that only a psychic could know. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn

Re: [Fink-devel] install_name perl script

2003-01-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
that. No simple addition of parens will help you. What you're saying now is the same as leaving the second and third my off, and use strict would have caught that. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn

Re: [Fink-devel] new teTeX

2003-02-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
installed. So, please update or outdate bundle-tetex and system-tetex and tetex-macosx soon. For all of us. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing

Re: [Fink-devel] new teTeX

2003-02-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal You didn't mention that bundle-tetex is now severely broken. It is. Randal It wants to install things that aren't provided by tetex-base, except Randal that they are, and so it tries to install the old version of Randal dvi-something

[Fink-devel] libpng, libpng3 - bounce bounce bounce

2003-02-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training

[Fink-devel] dunno how this got broken, but...

2003-02-06 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
openssl097-shlibs for package sitecopy-ssl-0.11.4-6 (no matching packages/versions found) Just recently, that is. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing

Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: XFree86 4.2.99.901 (4.3.0 RC 1)

2003-02-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
to quartz-wm. Ugh. How do you uninstall X11.app? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite

Re: [Fink-devel] Fink distfiles mirror now up

2003-03-10 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
, which says yup, that's a file already. Why did you use ls? :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com

Re: [Fink-devel] Master mirror message... Usability?

2003-06-03 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
for it. Nor would I expect the docs to be there given the previous experience with other undocumented parts of fink. :( -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical

[Fink-devel] master:master:master:master..., huh?

2003-06-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
/konversation-0.12.tar.gz What's doing that? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open

Re: [Fink-devel] master:master:master:master..., huh?

2003-06-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal I'm using the CVS tip of fink... lately, I've been getting failures to Randal download that end up trying to download something with master: in Randal the front. And each failure makes it even longer! Randal curl -f -L -O

Re: [Fink-devel] master:master:master:master..., huh?

2003-06-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
like it is. Try removing the source from /sw/src, and then fink fetch-missing. All hades breaks loose. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy

[Fink-devel] unable to fink selfupdate-cvs in the past week

2003-06-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
that. I've tried at all times of day or night. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open

Re: [Fink-devel] unable to fink selfupdate-cvs in the past week

2003-06-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
for everyone, and there's no end to the breakage in sight? How is anyone getting anything done? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc

Re: [Fink-devel] unable to fink selfupdate-cvs in the past week

2003-06-26 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
; open INFO_FILE, $INFO_FILE.tmp or die Cannot create $INFO_FILE.tmp: $!; print INFO_FILE END; Package: system-perlmodules Version: 1.0 Revision: @{[time]} Description: Placeholder for self-installed Perl Modules Maintainer: Randal L. Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Provides

Re: [Fink-devel] Proposal new Fink engine (Finch?)

2003-07-20 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
based on cost of development, not raw speed. Even having said that, you can always optimize Perl, usually even staying within Perl, but sometimes by popping into C, which is easy with Inline::C. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Fink-devel] Proposal new Fink engine (Finch?)

2003-07-20 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
should look into DBD::SQLite then... a complete SQL engine with transactions, subselects, views, etc... but without the server running! The entire engine is included in the DBD::SQLite distro. It's really rather remarkable. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777

Re: [Fink-devel] Proposal new Fink engine (Finch?)

2003-07-20 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Hisashi == Hisashi T Fujinaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hisashi On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: If there's any part of the Perl programming that is too slow, please demonstrate it with benchmarks. Hisashi Reading the code. I can reread most of my code with some work; perl

Re: [Fink-devel] perl scripts

2003-08-14 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] failed fink update system-xfree86

2003-08-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
nearly anything else without using --force-depends though. Only X11 did I have to go below the hood. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc

Re: [Fink-devel] How to rebuild all fink packages installed in 10.2-gcc3.3 rsync?

2003-10-23 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
, you get the previous $1. NEVER NEVER NEVER use $1 except when qualified as the condition of a match. Michael grep /^\s+i /, `fink list -i`; -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl

[Fink-devel] 5000 packages down to 800?

2003-11-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Hmm. On the rsync update this morning, fink was updated, said something about switching to 10.3, and now my 5000 packages are down to 800. Did the latest update get rid of unstable? I can't remember where I enabled that. Or is the Right Thing Happening? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

Re: [Fink-devel] About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
not just version number here. It's versionnumber plus threads, and no upward compatibility at the binary level. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing

Re: [Fink-devel] About perl modules (was: Re: fink/perlmod/Fink ChangeLog,1.405,1.406 PkgVersion.pm,1.169,1.170)

2003-11-14 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
series between Michael similarly configured Perls. Otherwise something's really broken. Threads are not compatible with non-threads. And the word should is of course the ideal there, but I think P5P admits dropping the ball on 5.8.0 vs 5.8.1. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services

[Fink-devel] WARNING: Unable to parse ... after upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
in /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/games/grhino-0.7.0-11.info. Updating package index... done. Are these wanted, expected, known, fixable, hurting anything? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn

Re: [Fink-devel] WARNING: Unable to parse ... after upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin None of the above: Already fixed, about a week ago. Define already fixed. I just self-updated, and I'm still getting it. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

Re: [Fink-devel] WARNING: Unable to parse ... after upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin None of the above: Already fixed, about a week ago. Define already fixed. I just self-updated, and I'm still getting it. Martin Weird. The only

Re: [Fink-devel] WARNING: Unable to parse ... after upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
/x11/xplanet-0.95-12.patch -rw-r--r--1 merlyn unknown 1813 Nov 8 02:36 /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xplanet.info -rw-r--r--1 merlyn unknown 410 Nov 8 02:36 /sw/fink/10.3/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11/xplanet.patch Next question? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

Re: [Fink-devel] WARNING: Unable to parse ... after upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Information about 1977 packages read in 2 seconds. i rsync2.5.5-1 Synchronize filesystems between hosts -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting

Re: [Fink-devel] WARNING: Unable to parse ... after upgrade

2003-11-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Don == Don McKenzie Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don [82-69-15-218:~] donpaul% which rsync Don /sw/bin/rsync Yes, this does seem to be the culprit now. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl

Re: [Fink-devel] no system-xfree86-* in the 10.3 tree??

2003-11-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
: XFree86 4.3.x and Apple X11 1.0 i system-xfree86-upgrade 1.0-1 (place-holder package for upgrading broken installs) How do I get the -dev ? I upgraded 10.2 to 10.3, installing in-place. Do I need to install an optional SDK again? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services

Re: [Fink-devel] no system-xfree86-* in the 10.3 tree??

2003-11-18 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
, but fink install gtk+2 seems happy. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment

[Fink-devel] sources for xc-20031117.tar.bz2

2003-11-20 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
to ensure the sources are available for at least part of the time? Or is this a rogue package wanting this source? Also, is there any easy way to see which package wants a particular source? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http

Re: [Fink-devel] sources for xc-20031117.tar.bz2

2003-11-20 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
-20031117.tar.bz2 which as far as I can tell never existed anywhere. :( -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com

Re: [Fink-devel] another test failure

2003-11-27 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
be that $(PWD) will insert the PWD variable or PWD envar known to Make, while $$PWD will defer that to the shell as $PWD. You'd see the difference in: cd /etc; echo $(PWD) vs cd /etc; echo $$PWD Which one is right? Depends on what you needed it for. -- Randal L. Schwartz

Re: [Fink-devel] new symlink in fink?

2003-12-05 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
in there somewhere. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training

Re: [Fink-devel] new symlink in fink?

2003-12-05 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
the newer Perl that also looks at older directories, than to collapse the old and new directories. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc

[Fink-devel] Trees not searched in order?

2003-12-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
, it would shadow the ones defined later. Apparently that's not the case. Do I really have to blow away the unstable versions just so that it sees the stable versions? My next rsync update will then re-upgrade me. Ugh. Why isn't the order of Trees important? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

Re: [Fink-devel] New GTK breaks Ethereal

2003-12-11 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
it's definitely something only in the display code. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite

Re: [Fink-devel] New GTK breaks Ethereal

2003-12-12 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
(compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0) time stamp 1064385339 Tue Sep 23 23:35:39 2003 And it still crashes. :( -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical

[Fink-devel] ensuring downloadability of Perl modules

2003-12-16 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
that should be one of the choices in fink configure. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite

Re: [Fink-devel] fink-mirrors breaks selfupdate

2003-12-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
get no mirror site list found for mirror 'master'. Help! -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com

Re: [Fink-devel] fink-mirrors breaks selfupdate

2003-12-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin I am now trying to find a way out of this by Randal Arggh. I just got bit by this too! Martin 1. reinstalling the old version of fink-0.17.1-1 Randal I did that with ./inject.pl

Re: [Fink-devel] fink-mirrors breaks selfupdate

2003-12-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Martin == Martin Costabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Martin I am now trying to find a way out of this by Arggh. I just got bit by this too! Martin 1. reinstalling the old version of fink-0.17.1-1 I did

[Fink-devel] can't self-update right now?

2004-01-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /sw/lib/perl5/Fink/SelfUpdate.pm line 633. Updating using rsync failed. Check the error messages above. And it's a different number after .VERSION every time. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777

[Fink-devel] Re: can't self-update right now?

2004-01-25 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Randal == Randal L Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Randal And it's a different number after .VERSION every time. Ahh, the problem seemed to be that /sw/fink was owned by root, not merlyn. Not sure how it got that way, but what an odd way to tell me. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge

[Fink-devel] problem with rsync - every file gets sucked every time

2004-02-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
change? Am I doing it wrong again? This started about a week ago, if I recall. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See

Re: [Fink-devel] problem with rsync - every file gets sucked every time

2004-02-24 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Darian == Darian Lanx [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Darian Even though I am a bit scared to say so (The name Randal L. Schwartz Darian does call for respect ya' know?!). Darian Unless you intend to have all of the tree around Darian (10.2/10.2-gcc3.3/10.3), you are behind a very restrictive firewall

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