At Wed, 18 Dec 2002 01:21:22 +0100, Martin Costabel wrote:
> Robert Bruce Findler wrote:
> []
> > Setting up glib (1.2.10-8) ...
> > install-info: unrecognized option `--infodir=/sw/share/info'
> > Try `install-info --help' for a complete list of options.
> > dpkg: error processing glib (--
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 11:15 US/Pacific, bringar wrote:
or perhaps simpler:
form the emacs manual:
To do so, turn on Mouse Wheel global minor mode with the command
`M-x mouse-wheel-mode' or by customizing the option
`mouse-wheel-mode'. Support for the wheel
depends on the system generat
>
> This kind of anonymity and universality, which you can find Jorge Luis
> Borge's novels, really amuses me all the time.
After all, Chaos is a quite rigorous study and an equally rigirous
phenomenon, or should I say principle. The Fink developers all, are
flowing with the Chaos of an evolving O
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 19:22 US/Pacific, Jon wrote:
I was not prompted for vfs or vfs-ssl when I originally tried "fink
install evolution". At this point I've tried using fink to remove
Evolution and then to reinstall, still not asked about SSL. Rebuilding
Evolution gleaned the same res
I was not prompted for vfs or vfs-ssl when I originally tried "fink
install evolution". At this point I've tried using fink to remove
Evolution and then to reinstall, still not asked about SSL. Rebuilding
Evolution gleaned the same results.
What do I need to do to start clean in hopes of being
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 14:15 US/Pacific, KaOs wrote:
snipped
Chaos is freedom!
Reading your post, a strange idea occurred to me:
everybody involved in open source development
is actually developing an "visible" operating system
called "K OS" (punning with "chaos"), even without
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 01:17 PM, Brendan Lane Larson wrote:
Is there any reason why I couldn't have two open shells, each running
Fink installs independently (as long as the two installations didn't
cross over into each other in terms of dependencies)?
This has been previously di
I simply can't believe the amazing amount of work that went into this
project. I can't tell you all how grateful I am! I will be testing all I
can. Of all the Window Managers to date, WindowMaker seems the fastest the
most free of problems. KWM in KDE seems the most prone to causing "X"
craches. Xf
Hello all,
I am having a problem running "fink selfupdate". Here's the output I
get:
Runs through the regular update and gets to here
cvs server:
10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11-wm/fvwm2-no-gnome-2.4.11-1.info is no
longer in the repository
U 10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/x11-wm/fvwm2-no-gnome-2
Robert Bruce Findler wrote:
[]
Setting up glib (1.2.10-8) ...
install-info: unrecognized option `--infodir=/sw/share/info'
Try `install-info --help' for a complete list of options.
dpkg: error processing glib (--configure):
subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Is there any way the Fink community could woo Christof back into the
community? It sounds like he could contribute as well as the many other
awesome people here who have contributed kindly.
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 12:28 PM, Philip Ershler wrote:
Just so fink users who may not have be
At Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:30:24 -0500, "David R. Morrison" wrote:
> I'm not sure what kind of automated testing you have in mind.
I was thinking of your questions 1 and 2, to start. Question 4 would
seem like it should be something that the developer of the package
could help with (ie, by providing a
> I guess such kind of bogus requests/comments/complaints would
> better be
> managed OUTSIDE the core development team, if possible. But
> to do that,
> each team must have volunteer customer service staff who
> mediate users
> and developers, as long as the can talk to each other. I
> don'
Yes, ideally the way we should build the binary distribution is to uninstall
everything before each run -- that would help to detect dependency problems.
The 0.4.1 and 0.5.0 distributions were each built by a single person (me)
running on a G4 iMac, and I simply didn't have (or take) the time to do
On Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002, at 14:13 US/Pacific, Robert Bruce Findler
wrote:
Well, perhaps this isn't the place, but I was curious if the fink
developers have tried to build automated test suites to help with these
kinds of things and if they've encountered any noteworthy successes or
failures. I,
It is unreasonable to expect Open source developers to test a
particular environment other than the development environment. That
would be our job as testers. We serve each other.
Exactly, and if you're aware of this, you can hardly describe a release
"premature". Maybe, the whole problem is ju
Just so fink users who may not have been around forever may be aware,
this is not an unimportant issue. As those of us who have been around
from the beginning certainly remember, one of the earliest driving
forces in the fink project was a fellow named Christof. As far as I
know it was his visi
I'm not sure what kind of automated testing you have in mind.
Of course, a Fink developer who commits a package to CVS has checked that
it compiles on his/her own machine. There are several levels of further
testing that can be imagined:
Question 1: Are there hidden dependencies... things whic
Well, perhaps this isn't the place, but I was curious if the fink
developers have tried to build automated test suites to help with these
kinds of things and if they've encountered any noteworthy successes or
failures. I, for one, would like to learn from these experiences, or
possibly investigate
I think you misunderstood my message. I'm not concerned at all about the
operation of fink and/or its testing. I'm deeply concerned about how
rude fink consumers can be to the fink developers and maintainers. It
just seems like every so often fink users (maybe new arrived fink users)
have to be
Hi,
Everybody knows frequent backup is very nice, or even necessary. But
y'know people -- including myself, of course --- are just lazy and want
to postpone until the "final" day (and nobody knows when it is,
though). What's worse, people are not as cautious as they should be,
and don't check
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 10:27 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Eric Salathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The fact of the matter is that OS X Macs are quite arguably the best
desktop unix sustems available. However, Apple has contributed only
part way to that status, and Fink the rest. If
Is there any reason why I couldn't have two open shells, each running
Fink installs independently (as long as the two installations didn't
cross over into each other in terms of dependencies)?
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Eric Salathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> An update was posted prematurely -- it turned out to be unusable to
> your existing user base. The web page and README persist in referencing
> misleading material and in suggesting there is a usable update. Really
> now, does the comment "shortc
or perhaps simpler:
form the emacs manual:
To do so, turn on Mouse Wheel global minor mode with the command
`M-x mouse-wheel-mode' or by customizing the option
`mouse-wheel-mode'. Support for the wheel
depends on the system generating appropriate events for Emacs
On 17 Dec 2002, Alexan
Robert Bruce Findler wrote:
At Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:09:22 -0700, Phil Ershler wrote:
It seems like about every six months I have to send this same
message. [ ... ]
I wonder, as you re-write this message every six months, if you can
think of anything that might help avoid having to send it?
This worked just fine with my wheel mouse.
I was so thrilled, I put it in my .emacs!
On Tue, 2002-12-17 at 13:54, bringar wrote:
> i haven't yet tested this in darwin but if X is getting wheel events it
> should work, i had to do this for the latest incarnation of Mandrake
>
> put into an .elc f
i haven't yet tested this in darwin but if X is getting wheel events it
should work, i had to do this for the latest incarnation of Mandrake
put into an .elc file and have emacs load it:
(setq unix-mouse-wheel-scroll-amount 4)
(defun unix-mouse-wheel-scroll-line-up (event)
"Scroll the current
I'm sorry that my remarks have been taken as pointless bitching, as I
decidedly did not intend them to be taken that way. Hopefully, a
careful, unemotional reading will reveal such. The very logic of my
remarks depends upon a high regard for the project. I believe the
content is there even if t
All,
This missive could be entitled "This is Unix--Know what You Don't Know
and Accept the Risks or Stay out of the Ocean and swim when Apple
builds you a safe swimming pool". If they ever do that is. The freedom
of Open Source software means you can install many things that didn't
come with y
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 04:09 pm, Phil Ershler wrote:
With my apologies to fink contributors for other's rudeness,
There has so far been no rudeness, so far as I can see. Everyone has
conducted herself entirely properly.
Mac users are a demanding lot. They demand to have everything
Hi
Using google i found it at:
http://folk.uio.no/runekl/dictionary.html
Perhaps you would like to make a fink package for it? Take a look at
Thanks for guidance but i think my porting skills are not very good :-(
Thats one of many reasons for why i love fink!
/sw/fink/10.2/unstable/main/fin
Hello
My question is how can i configure a dhcpd server on the xserve that
the mac-adress has only one ip from dhcpd server.
like this
$mac adress1 from the g4 - 1 = 192.168.1.1
$mac adress2 from the g4 -2 = 192.168.1.2
...
..
.
thanks for your help greetings Ferdinand Klinzer
At Tue, 17 Dec 2002 09:09:22 -0700, Phil Ershler wrote:
> It seems like about every six months I have to send this same
> message. [ ... ]
I wonder, as you re-write this message every six months, if you can
think of anything that might help avoid having to send it?
Would better testing help? Is
It seems like about every six months I have to send this same message.
The people that put their own time and effort in to the fink project do
it completely out of the goodness of their hearts. It has been a
spectacular success. If there have been problems it's unfortunate but
crap happens. Th
I just installed fink with Blackbox (stable) on a brand new TiBook last
night.
Works great.
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Brendan Lane Larson wrote:
> Has anyone run Blackbox unstable in the current fink release? If not,
> I'll install the Blackbox window manager on my TiBook and do my best to
> provide f
Has anyone run Blackbox unstable in the current fink release? If not,
I'll install the Blackbox window manager on my TiBook and do my best to
provide feedback.
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 10:05 PM, Ben Hines wrote:
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 11:18 PM, Kow K wrote:
WindowMaker i
This is somewhat in response to the recent thread on release time and
quality of fink. I am of the view exactly opposite of the first post.
I was waiting on fink for months, I wish it was release long ago. Then
I decided to just bite the bullet and do the unstable cvs thing, and I
am happier
On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 01:15 AM, David Getzin wrote:
one more question, has anyone been able to get arts working? I have
to admit at not trying very hard so far, but here are my results:
>
[12:01am dgetzin~]%artswrapper
using device Built-in audio contr
The scrolling of some X11 windows works with a wheel mouse works well
with some apps (like xterm) but not in other (emacs...)
How can I fix that ?
Sebastien
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On Tuesday, December 17, 2002, at 02:24 AM, Roger Wong wrote:
I wrote a message here a couple of days ago about how poorly
documented most
UNIX apps are. I said that most of the man pages were written by
developers
for developers. In my opinion, that attitude is outdated and elitist.
Writing
Hello all- just posting to say that I got set with the unstables, and
all the "missing" packages are there- arts is compiling
thanks for the help
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I just did this and was asked about SSL support three times, in fact
the first two times SSL support was the first choice, but the third
time it was the second choice, so I'm off to complain to the maintainer
about consistency (after it finishes building and I see what else there
might be to re
> His post was not particularly helpful either, IMO. We know the upgrade
> situation is bad and don't really need people bitching at us about it,
> really. There was nothing that helped me as a fink developer in his
> post. Other than to make me understand why ChrisP quit working on fink
> last yea
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 02:33 PM, Gunnar Andersson wrote:
Where do i get this .hash file? On my computer there are only english
++ .hash files. I read some on the documentation of ispell but hope
its not nescessary to try to follow the steps to install ispell from
scratch. It sound
Hello all,
I recently installed Ximian's Evolution (V.1.0.7-2) via Fink
(V.0.5.0a.cvs) on my TiBook running OS X (V.10.2.2). During the install
process I was not asked about SSL support. After install I was excited
to find it actually works. However, the mail servers that I want to
connect to
On Monday, December 16, 2002, at 11:18 PM, Kow K wrote:
WindowMaker is just missing in the "stable" source true, I think. It
should be available in "unstable" tree. Actually, WindowMaker is
running flawlessly on my PowerBook. I installed it on 0.4.0 and has
been updated on 0.5.0a based on CV
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