RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-17 Thread Karina Steffens
Hi all and happy Easter or Passover to anyone who celebrates either. I've just finished working on an alternative solution to this issue, which _uses_ JavaScript, but doesn't actually _require_ it... It goes like this. I noticed that some of the solutions out there involve replacing the

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-17 Thread Karina Steffens
Here's a possible fix to the previous code: First of all, it works only on IE - because IE is the only one who needs this script... Second, it removes the jump problem mentioned in the previous code by adding two new style declarations to the page, and then switching between visibilities. Looking

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-17 Thread John Dowdell
Dave Mennenoh wrote: How to utilize the JavaScript fix when you're using FlashVars set by PHP? Is it possible for JS to retrieve data from PHP session variables? I've been doing some research this am but haven't been too lucky yet. I'm not sure I'm seeing this correctly yet... would I be on

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-15 Thread Dave Mennenoh
How to utilize the JavaScript fix when you're using FlashVars set by PHP? Is it possible for JS to retrieve data from PHP session variables? I've been doing some research this am but haven't been too lucky yet. Dave - Adobe Community Expert www.blurredistinction.com

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-15 Thread Dave Mennenoh
Nevermind... one of those days. Looks like FlashObject will fit the bill nicely. Dave - Adobe Community Expert www.blurredistinction.com www.macromedia.com/support/forums/team_macromedia/ ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-13 Thread Mike Mountain
: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ... John Grden wrote: I have to ask, now that I've gone out to see the active content center, what's the active part? It's more like active content than active center... active content is a way to describe browser extensions such as Netscape Plugins

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-13 Thread Steven Sacks
Are you going to update Flash 8 so it publishes flash/html that utilises the new javascript methods? I wouldn't hold your breath on that one. ;) ___ This e-mail is intended only for the named person or entity to which it is addressed and

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-12 Thread andrew . lucking
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Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-12 Thread John Grden
I have to ask, now that I've gone out to see the active content center, what's the active part? I mean, is it the send feedback option? I feel like a tard asking this, but apparently it's not obvioius to me, and so, I'm guessing it's not obvious to some others either. One thing that's missing

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-12 Thread John Dowdell
John Grden wrote: I have to ask, now that I've gone out to see the active content center, what's the active part? It's more like active content than active center... active content is a way to describe browser extensions such as Netscape Plugins, ActiveX Controls, and Java applets. It's not

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-11 Thread Weldon MacDonald
Does anyone know how long it takes for this kind of update to filter through? I, for instance NEVER accept anything from Microsoft on the first pass. Do I have to impliment several alternatives? What happens to a current browser if you make the switch? Weldon On 4/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-11 Thread ryanm
What happens to a current browser if you make the switch? Nothing, it degrades gracefully. ryanm ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-11 Thread John Dowdell
On 4/10/06, John Dowdell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Related question: Do you see reasons why so much of this conversation about ActiveX changes in the Microsoft browser has avoided the source material on the Adobe site? Reporters are frequently getting the facts wrong (ads won't play etc), and on

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-11 Thread John Grden
it sounds like to me that you know alot more about Active Content Center than some of us ;) In fact, I haven't heard that term until you just used it, so I feel a need to get out there and see what's up. So, maybe an answer to your question is we're just not up to speed on some of your features

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread Paul Neave
I wholeheartedly recommend using Flash Object for embedding Flash into HTML. Yes, it means those with JavaScript disabled will get the 'alternative version', but in all honesty, in these days of AJAX and standards-compliance, people who disable JavaScript are in the tiny minority. The benefits

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread John Grden
HA, lol, man never occured to me, but yeah, I guess that'd be a scenario I would think the noscript tag would be the option - doesn't seem that there's any other option really. On 4/10/06, GregoryN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last year I worked with a client's employee, who had both javascript

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread John Grden
I wouldn't disagree with you at all on that Paul. I might disagree about the numbers in minority especially given the porn variable, but I don't think it raises the number into the majority by any means. But that doesn't diminish what you've said here, FlashObject has been very easy to integrate

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread Ettwein, Josh
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Grden Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:52 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ... I wouldn't disagree with you at all on that Paul. I might disagree

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread John Dowdell
Stephen Ford wrote: What happens if a user doesn't have javascript enabled in their browser for the recommended Macromedia solution (see link: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/articles/devletter.html) to this whole Active X debacle ? This is answered at the Adobe Active

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread John Grden
Preamble: This is not gospel, this is not majority, this isn't anything by my opinion :) In the past, I've had mixed experiences with MM/Adobe's site for help. Most of the time, I honestly have to check for the last revision date to make sure I'm not reading something that's 2 years old. There

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread andrew . lucking
mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com | | cc: | | Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Active X

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread Bill Lane
jdowdell wrote: It would be great if there were openwiki documentation of browser differences, however. This doesn't cover the variations in noscript response. But is the most comprehensive browser comparison I've seen to date. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers Bill

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread Bill Lane
I actually think that the problem was that Adobe was too quick to respond. They've had a solution up since the first round of worry hit this forum. But I think it was so long ago that most forgot about it. Then when it hit the press again they didn't remind people firmly enough. They treated

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-10 Thread Mick G
I don't know if this falls in line with the whole law suit or not, but it just seems so obvious to me that MS should implement a checkbox next to the dialog when you're allow ActiveX content that says [x] Always allow this Active X type or [x] Always allow flash content (the same way you get that

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Michael Klishin
Stephen Ford wrote: Can anyone answer this: What happens if a user doesn't have javascript enabled in their browser for the recommended Macromedia solution (see link: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/activecontent/articles/devletter.html) to this whole Active X debacle ? ??? You just have

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Hairy Dog Digital
Personally what I would *like* to do is include a download link to Firefox in the NOSCRIPT tags! -Original Message- From: Stephen Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:13 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: [Flashcoders] Active X and

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread James Deakin
i second that. Shame most clients wont go for it as a solution. On 4/9/06, Hairy Dog Digital [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally what I would *like* to do is include a download link to Firefox in the NOSCRIPT tags! -Original Message- From: Stephen Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread John Grden
You just have to write your object / embed tags code with JavaScript. Use FlashObject and relax. ummm, that's the problem - no JavaScript worky - no write out object at all = screwed. He's got a great point that we've been dealing with as well. We are using the FlashObject code, but if a

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Count Schemula
In the early days, I remember going ape nuts over every k in file size, and sticking to certain web safe colors and making sure the content fit in 640x480 screens. I still try to respect things like file size and app performance, but on some things, I'm like, if you have a 256 color screen

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Steven Sacks
You also have to consider what users are turning off Javascript. First, Javascript is turned on by default. Second, you have to be somewhat savvy to know what Javascript is, much less turn it off, and also know what purpose turning it off serves. Third, you need to have a reason to turn it off.

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Paul BH
I second what Steven says - to give you a bit of perspective, I worked on the relaunch of fhm.com about a year or so ago, and we looked into what implications there would be for requiring end users to have flash to be able to use the site. As part of this, we used a thing called browserhawk to

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Michael Bedar
While this is true, it seems very backward to need JS to view Flash content... On Apr 9, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Paul BH wrote: I second what Steven says - to give you a bit of perspective, I worked on the relaunch of fhm.com about a year or so ago, and we looked into what implications there

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread Bill Lane
I haven't seen anyone mention this yet so maybe it has a downside I can't see. We're planning on using a noscript element inside the flashcontent div (using FlashObject) to add the Flash content. That way if javascript is disabled they will still get the Flash content. Only downside is they

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread greg
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Lane Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 7:05 PM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ... I haven't seen anyone mention this yet so maybe it has a downside I

Re: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread John Grden
I agree, seems like a crazy statement. And while I agree that modifying your implementation for a minority is something I'd rather not do, it's not a luxury we have with some of our main clients - You don't just go and tell a fortune 500 company um, sorry that it failed on your lame computer at

RE: [Flashcoders] Active X and Microsoft IE ...

2006-04-09 Thread GregoryN
Last year I worked with a client's employee, who had both javascript and cookies turned off. At first, I couldn't understand why he's doing so. My thoughts were exactly as Steven's . But some day he's dropped few words and I've got it: he's porn surfer! And he was using office computer for it