Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
You should be able to get Eclipse and asdt working pretty easily. osflash.org is the place to look for open source tools for Actionscript programming. Ron Andy Herrman wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
ASDT is dead... :/ I would rather buy FDT or search for alternatives if I were on a mac of linux.. as I'm on windows, there's FlashDevelop, of course! On 10/18/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to get Eclipse and asdt working pretty easily. osflash.org is the place to look for open source tools for Actionscript programming. Ron Andy Herrman wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
That's the one I tried, but I couldn't get it to function. For instance, when I went to try and add my files it couldn't see my filesystem for some very strange reason. There were a couple other problems as well, but I don't remember them off the top of my head. So far FlashDevelop seems to be pretty good, but I've only used it briefly so far (working on AS 1.0 code at the moment). It doesn't have some features I'd like (like in Netbeans where I can Ctrl-click on something and have it go to that function/object's definition or find usages) but it's much better than anything else. Now if only I could figure out how to change the syntax highlighting color scheme to match what I use in everything else... -Andy On 10/18/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You should be able to get Eclipse and asdt working pretty easily. osflash.org is the place to look for open source tools for Actionscript programming. Ron Andy Herrman wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
On Oct 18, 2006, at 10:22 AM, Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: ASDT is dead... :/ I would rather buy FDT or search for alternatives if I were on a mac of linux.. as I'm on windows, there's FlashDevelop, of course! As far as I can tell, there really is only FDT for Mac users. Everything else is either very incomplete, out of date, or broken. I've heard that Sepy works for some Mac users, but it has been very unstable on every system I've tried it with. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
That's odd. Ben Jackson uses it exclusively and has it tied to MTASC and Subversion. He never has to open the Flash IDE. Have you seen some of the macros videos out there? I know firsthand that the learning curve can be a little steep, but if you take the time to learn the program in and out, the benefits are outstanding. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
FDT has been the best thing that I've been able to find for coding AS2 on the Mac. I like Eclipse as I use it for Java development as well. Anyway, auto completion, some minor refactoring features and integration with Ant and version control make it a hell of a tool. It does cost money though and does have a few bugs, but overall it has been totally worth it. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it. -Chris On 10/17/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: If you're a Mac user you should really check out TextMate. It's by and large the best coding tool out there and until FlashDevelop came out, it was better than any windows text editor. I don't know any coders on the mac who are without it whether they code Java, Rails, PHP, C++, HTML, Javascript, Actionscript what have you. It's quite simply an unbelievable application and worth the paltry $35 or whatever it costs. It has customizable code completion and insanely cool macros you can create that make coding a breeze. On the downside for TextMate, the out-of-the-box experience is not very good. The built-in bundle seems compelling, however its features are broken, and as it is a third-party bundle, it does not appear to be maintained. Sometimes I mess with the bundle to see if I can make it work better, but haven't had much luck. I don't program perl, for one thing. I don't think that should be a requirement for improving AS development workflows. This makes TextMate a better-than-average text editor, but not much to rave over regarding an improved actionscript workflow under OSX. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
FDT is great, no doubt. But it's way too, and I mean too expensive :( At least for us poor third-world human-beings, the price in euros turns out to become a fortune on our currency... Just my $ 0,02 cents On 10/18/06, Chris Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FDT has been the best thing that I've been able to find for coding AS2 on the Mac. I like Eclipse as I use it for Java development as well. Anyway, auto completion, some minor refactoring features and integration with Ant and version control make it a hell of a tool. It does cost money though and does have a few bugs, but overall it has been totally worth it. Just my two cents. Take it or leave it. -Chris On 10/17/06, Troy Rollins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: If you're a Mac user you should really check out TextMate. It's by and large the best coding tool out there and until FlashDevelop came out, it was better than any windows text editor. I don't know any coders on the mac who are without it whether they code Java, Rails, PHP, C++, HTML, Javascript, Actionscript what have you. It's quite simply an unbelievable application and worth the paltry $35 or whatever it costs. It has customizable code completion and insanely cool macros you can create that make coding a breeze. On the downside for TextMate, the out-of-the-box experience is not very good. The built-in bundle seems compelling, however its features are broken, and as it is a third-party bundle, it does not appear to be maintained. Sometimes I mess with the bundle to see if I can make it work better, but haven't had much luck. I don't program perl, for one thing. I don't think that should be a requirement for improving AS development workflows. This makes TextMate a better-than-average text editor, but not much to rave over regarding an improved actionscript workflow under OSX. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
Oh man you're in for a treat. I've been using FlashDevelop for ages as an AS2 editor and wouldn't be without it now, but after following this thread I am trying to setup a project (something I have never done) and compile with MTASC... Got this working fine, retrofitting an old project(about to be redeveloped) following this tutorial... http://www.smithaaronlee.net/archives/111 http://www.smithaaronlee.net/archives/113 But now need to get the following errors in the compiler Warning : package com.Data not found Warning : package com.UserInterface not found Warning : package com.Utils not found Warning : The MovieClip InfoScreen needs the class UserInterface.InfoScreen which was not compiled : Please force compilation of this class by adding it to the commandline. I have setup com.Data etc in the IncludePackages Array, but clearly this is incorrect. What do I put in the IncludePackages Array? How do I force compilation of each class by adding it to the commandline? TIA, Michael ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
Hi, I think this has been pretty much said, but after having recently explored AS editor options I'd like to give my take. First, your needs are going to be based on how you work. I do a lot of scripting but I also mix in some hand animations and other frame based stuff. I'm not developing apps. My primary objective for using an external editor is to keep organized. That means smart Code folding. Second I want code validation. third, I want to compile from the editor. Maybe all of the following are capable, but only one was intuitive and made it easy to accomplish these objectives. I mean, within minutes. Scite: Ok but I was frustrated that I couldn't just click to close an open file. no right click either? You have to go to the top level menu. Code folding was good. Coudn't find code validation. Couldn't compile. Maybe it was all there, but not intuitive. I dumped it. Primal Script. Not great code folding. It wouldn't save folds. I asked in the forums. no solution. Plus of course it costs a few bucks. I dumped it right there. Eclispe/FDT. What a mess to configure. It may be as powerful as everyone says, but it's pretty much worthless for my needs. And frankly, I suspect my needs are more typical of the average flasher. There are a lot of sophisticated programers on this list, god bless you all, but I don't think they represent your average flasher. To much work. To much time wasted setting it up. Dumped it. $$ (which btw, if something is worth it, I be glad to shell out). Dreamweaver. won't save code folding. stopped trying it right there. Sepy. I'm happy with Sepy. Simple. Problem solved. Set up and continued doing my work in minutes. Kurt At 05:53 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: Oh man you're in for a treat. I've been using FlashDevelop for ages as an AS2 editor and wouldn't be without it now, but after following this thread I am trying to setup a project (something I have never done) and compile with MTASC... Got this working fine, retrofitting an old project(about to be redeveloped) following this tutorial... http://www.smithaaronlee.net/archives/111 http://www.smithaaronlee.net/archives/113 But now need to get the following errors in the compiler Warning : package com.Data not found Warning : package com.UserInterface not found Warning : package com.Utils not found Warning : The MovieClip InfoScreen needs the class UserInterface.InfoScreen which was not compiled : Please force compilation of this class by adding it to the commandline. I have setup com.Data etc in the IncludePackages Array, but clearly this is incorrect. What do I put in the IncludePackages Array? How do I force compilation of each class by adding it to the commandline? TIA, Michael ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
hi michael, right-click your file in the project explorer and select always compile greetz joerg Michael Trim schrieb: What do I put in the IncludePackages Array? How do I force compilation of each class by adding it to the commandline? TIA, Michael ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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right-click your file in the project explorer and select always compile Thanks joerg had found that, I'm downloading other examples of FDP's and examining their setup, almost there! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
I was just checking out the build options for a project in FlashDevelop, and it seems you can set it to compile with MTASC and/or inject code - so if that's true, would there be any reason to use FLASC when you're just writing code with FlashDevelop? Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organization Effectiveness - Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
I'm having the same problem and I don't think it was answered. How do I tell FlashDevelop/MTASC what/where my packages are? If my class path is MyDirectory, and I import components.* from MyDirectory/components, how do I add this to the setup? I've tried several combinations, but haven't hit it yet. P. But now need to get the following errors in the compiler Warning : package com.Data not found Warning : package com.UserInterface not found Warning : package com.Utils not found ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
On 10/17/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just checking out the build options for a project in FlashDevelop, and it seems you can set it to compile with MTASC and/or inject code - so if that's true, would there be any reason to use FLASC when you're just writing code with FlashDevelop? I think some like to make a clean build compiled with the official compiler to publish the project when they're done. Why? I don't know. Maybe a final check if it compiles in case somebody else will have to work on it who doesn't know of MTASC. But it shouldn't be necessary, MTASC usually is stricter than the MMC (or is it now AC -- Adobe Compiler?), especially if you use --strict. Just to throw in my setup: I use Eclipse with EHX [1]. EHX is still in very early development, so some of the luxury of the more mature IDEs is missing, but there isn't much choice for haXe [2] IDEs yet -- especially if you can't run FlashDevelop since it's Windows-only, but here is a haXe plugin for it, too. [1] http://osflash.org/ehx [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HaXe Mark ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
http://osflash.org/flasc You should also check out FLASC, a Flash panel MTASC compiler that is basically an easy to use GUI for MTASC. I often find myself with FlashDevelop and the Flash IDE open when making tests or working on projects with heavy design. I can make a code change in FD, hit the compile button in FLASC and it launches the SWF instantaneously within the IDE with all the benefits of doing so. I also have the flexibility to make physical changes to the Flash file and recompile in Flash because it's already open. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TextMate If you're a Mac user you should really check out TextMate. It's by and large the best coding tool out there and until FlashDevelop came out, it was better than any windows text editor. I don't know any coders on the mac who are without it whether they code Java, Rails, PHP, C++, HTML, Javascript, Actionscript what have you. It's quite simply an unbelievable application and worth the paltry $35 or whatever it costs. It has customizable code completion and insanely cool macros you can create that make coding a breeze. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
On Oct 17, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Steven Sacks | BLITZ wrote: If you're a Mac user you should really check out TextMate. It's by and large the best coding tool out there and until FlashDevelop came out, it was better than any windows text editor. I don't know any coders on the mac who are without it whether they code Java, Rails, PHP, C++, HTML, Javascript, Actionscript what have you. It's quite simply an unbelievable application and worth the paltry $35 or whatever it costs. It has customizable code completion and insanely cool macros you can create that make coding a breeze. On the downside for TextMate, the out-of-the-box experience is not very good. The built-in bundle seems compelling, however its features are broken, and as it is a third-party bundle, it does not appear to be maintained. Sometimes I mess with the bundle to see if I can make it work better, but haven't had much luck. I don't program perl, for one thing. I don't think that should be a requirement for improving AS development workflows. This makes TextMate a better-than-average text editor, but not much to rave over regarding an improved actionscript workflow under OSX. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I don't know if anyone else is using JEdit to do ActionScript, but it has some nice features. I have been using it for about a year to develop application with MTASC. It is very simple to set up. Kjel Anderson Ron Wheeler wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
On Oct 16, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Kjel Anderson wrote: I don't know if anyone else is using JEdit to do ActionScript, but it has some nice features. I have been using it for about a year to develop application with MTASC. It is very simple to set up. The (good) options for OSX are considerably less. While I haven't used FDT, I've tried others, and they are either unstable, or sadly lacking. The Flash IDE is obviously not that great for coding, but using it alone is better than using TWO things that aren't all that great. -- Troy RPSystems, Ltd. http://www.rpsystems.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
FlashDevelop is by far the best open-source free AS2 IDE atm. On 10/16/06, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
FlashDevelop is by far the best AS IDE, period. Full stop. I even use it for XML these days heh. And i always have it up, so it winds up being what i do ALL text editing in. If you're a mac dude, i guess eclipse is your way to go. I had a look at jEdit when i was a mac user i thought jEdit was a knife in the back of usability.. But thats just me :) - A Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: FlashDevelop is by far the best open-source free AS2 IDE atm. On 10/16/06, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive:
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Does anyone know if there has been an effort to get this running under mono on Linux? Kjel Andreas R wrote: FlashDevelop is by far the best AS IDE, period. Full stop. I even use it for XML these days heh. And i always have it up, so it winds up being what i do ALL text editing in. If you're a mac dude, i guess eclipse is your way to go. I had a look at jEdit when i was a mac user i thought jEdit was a knife in the back of usability.. But thats just me :) - A Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: FlashDevelop is by far the best open-source free AS2 IDE atm. On 10/16/06, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy
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I had a look at jEdit when i was a mac user i thought jEdit was a knife in the back of usability.. But thats just me :) That's funny. I feel the same way about the Flash IDE. ;) Kjel Andreas R wrote: FlashDevelop is by far the best AS IDE, period. Full stop. I even use it for XML these days heh. And i always have it up, so it winds up being what i do ALL text editing in. If you're a mac dude, i guess eclipse is your way to go. I had a look at jEdit when i was a mac user i thought jEdit was a knife in the back of usability.. But thats just me :) - A Marcelo de Moraes Serpa wrote: FlashDevelop is by far the best open-source free AS2 IDE atm. On 10/16/06, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, I haven't used Eclipse at all for Java. I've been using Netbeans for the last year or so, and before that stuck with Vim and command line tools. From what I hear, Eclipse/Netbeans is the new Emacs/Vim debate. :) I found a free Eclipse plugin for AS but I couldn't get it to work. I couldn't get it to see any of my code, and I think there were other problems I ran into but I don't remember. I'm looking at FlashDevelop right now, but I probably won't be able to use it much at the moment as the current stuff I need to work on is AS 1.0. Other than the lack of options (like changing the color scheme, I'm one of those crazies who likes a black background with white text) it looks pretty good. -Andy On 10/16/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are a Java programmer, you will probably find the Eclipse IDE the most comfortable place to work.. You might also be able to make some good suggestions about how to add the Java tools that are available under Eclipse to the Flash tools. IMHO while it may be true that Flash is the only IDE for Flash animation, Eclipse is the best IDE for developing Actionscript applications. Ron The Helmsman wrote: I think I've used all alternative editors to write AS files. I don't understand why you call them IDEs, because currently there is only one IDE which is Flash. Now, I found that there are no editors which supports an AS 1.0 as well as AS 2.0 and is free. Here is a list of editors I used according in order as I've used them: Scite - absolutely great one to write AS 1.0, it's free and don't use a lot of CPU resources even if you open a lot of files. FlashDevelop - for most of people it's a favorite choice, but it lacks a lot of futures opposite to other ones which are older. It's a freeware and great to write AS 2.0 only. PrimalScript - a great one for AS 1.0 and AS 2.0, but it lacks some of features that FDT have and it's commercial not free. FDT - must be the choice for all who write a code using AS 2.0, in any other cases - don't use it! It is commercial and quite expensive. As far as I know there is no AS 3.0 support and it is quite difficult to set it up for the very first time for a newbie. The number of features it has for AS 2.0 is amazing! Sepy - can hold AS 2.0 and AS 1.0, and both of them works great! I use the last experimental version and it's really stable on my PC. Due to this time there is lack of updates and it seems that the developers in some kind of an idle :) Once they made a new version each week. Personally I prefer to use this editor because it is located in the middle regarding the features and have a great support of both versions of AS, it's free and because I have a lot of old projects in both versions I prefer to work with it. Igor Vasiliev Atidim 2, Tel-Aviv, Israel phone: +972-36471884 fax: +972-36472722 web: www.mixtv.tv email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Herrman Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:46 PM To: Flashcoders Subject: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
I just switched to using FlashDevelop on Friday, and just discovered that among many other cool things, it provides code hints for custom classes you write/import. Supercool! I hated having to go back and open the other class and remember what methods are available and what the arguments were. I've been nothing but impressed with this tool so far. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organization Effectiveness - Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I just started using it recently too and I don't know how I got along without it. I do wish it had an autoformat option though. I liked that about the Flash IDE. V - Original Message - From: Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Flashcoders mailing list flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:10 PM Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel I just switched to using FlashDevelop on Friday, and just discovered that among many other cool things, it provides code hints for custom classes you write/import. Supercool! I hated having to go back and open the other class and remember what methods are available and what the arguments were. I've been nothing but impressed with this tool so far. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organization Effectiveness - Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Oh man you're in for a treat. You've probably seen all this already but: * try typing something like new mx.transitions.Tween. It's a god damn miracle. * Note that the code hinting and autocompletion extends to static methods of classes, interfaces, almost ANY .as doc in the project dir. I'm sure i type like 40% less now * For total flash IDE integration, remove the swf export name from your fdp project, change the class path of the compiler to the project dir (so you have to type new classes.myClass for instance), and load up flash 8 and your fla. Ctrl enter in FlashDevelop = Flash 8 test movie. * If compiling with mtasc, you can have trace() mask as another method, so if you have your own output/debug console, it's a cinch to have all your traces output there instead. Such an awesome thing if your app needs to be zincwrapped or somesuch to function properly. FlashDevelop is, in my opinion, the single most important piece of open source software out there for flash development. I know a number of Norwegian studios are based *entirely* on FD and MTASC now, and my own is probably going to wind up there as soon as we move from an is-a to a has-a paradigm. Nothing but love for the FD boys. Made my life miles easier - A Merrill, Jason wrote: I just switched to using FlashDevelop on Friday, and just discovered that among many other cool things, it provides code hints for custom classes you write/import. Supercool! I hated having to go back and open the other class and remember what methods are available and what the arguments were. I've been nothing but impressed with this tool so far. Jason Merrill Bank of America Learning Organization Effectiveness - Technology Solutions ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Hi, i thought the information on this page http://labs.blitzagency.com/?p=8 was pretty clear without needing to learn MTASC. Haven't tried the help button, I'm a google addict:) greetz JC On 10/13/06, Pete Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanx. I got it working...I entered the .fla instead of the .swf into the place that wanted it. No thanks to the limited information available for this tool. The Help button points to a URL that has no information on FLASC. But, since it is little more than a wrapper around MTASC, I guess the real thing to do is learn how that works. P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Wichman Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:17 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Hi Pete, check out the project page for flasc, there are video's available that demo it. In addition as mentioned before, FlashDevelop wraps around mtasc too. greetz JC On 10/13/06, Pete Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks great, but I can't figure out how to create a project in FLASC. Specifically, it asks me to create a batch file first. What batch file? What it is looking for? P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:57 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Why can't you use MTASC? If you're serious about Flash development, you should be using it. I have a Flash application that literally takes 30 seconds to compile in the IDE and less than a second with MTASC. If you don't want to have to write out that long command line compile script (and who does) you should check out FLASC, which is a great GUI for MTASC which runs as a panel in the Flash IDE. http://www.osflash.org/flasc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Hi Pete, check out the project page for flasc, there are video's available that demo it. In addition as mentioned before, FlashDevelop wraps around mtasc too. greetz JC On 10/13/06, Pete Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks great, but I can't figure out how to create a project in FLASC. Specifically, it asks me to create a batch file first. What batch file? What it is looking for? P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:57 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Why can't you use MTASC? If you're serious about Flash development, you should be using it. I have a Flash application that literally takes 30 seconds to compile in the IDE and less than a second with MTASC. If you don't want to have to write out that long command line compile script (and who does) you should check out FLASC, which is a great GUI for MTASC which runs as a panel in the Flash IDE. http://www.osflash.org/flasc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Thanx. I got it working...I entered the .fla instead of the .swf into the place that wanted it. No thanks to the limited information available for this tool. The Help button points to a URL that has no information on FLASC. But, since it is little more than a wrapper around MTASC, I guess the real thing to do is learn how that works. P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans Wichman Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:17 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Hi Pete, check out the project page for flasc, there are video's available that demo it. In addition as mentioned before, FlashDevelop wraps around mtasc too. greetz JC On 10/13/06, Pete Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This looks great, but I can't figure out how to create a project in FLASC. Specifically, it asks me to create a batch file first. What batch file? What it is looking for? P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:57 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Why can't you use MTASC? If you're serious about Flash development, you should be using it. I have a Flash application that literally takes 30 seconds to compile in the IDE and less than a second with MTASC. If you don't want to have to write out that long command line compile script (and who does) you should check out FLASC, which is a great GUI for MTASC which runs as a panel in the Flash IDE. http://www.osflash.org/flasc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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Hi Andy, Have a look at flashdevelop, http://www.flashdevelop.org. It's a beautiful IDE that handles AS1, AS2 and AS3, is lightweight and flexible, ... it can do the things you ask for + more! Alternatively there's also SE|PY, http://www.sephiroth.it/python/sepy.php. It's very good too, but I really prefer FlashDevelop. Regards, Sven On 10/12/06, Andy Herrman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
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I'd try FlashDevelop (at least for actionscript 2); you can still do the actual compile w/ the Flash IDE. There are a few, older tools, with actionscript 1 support, but I'm not familiar w/ any of them anymore. There is also a partially working, but discontinued plugin for Eclipse, which can then be used in conjunction w/ the CVS or SVN team provider for Eclipse - also there is a commercial plugin to, its kind of expensive and I've never used it. Hope that helps. Andy Herrman wrote: Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
Andy, the only solution is to use Eclipse with some flash open source tools such as Flashout, ASDT and MTASC. I was using this combination - as known as AMES (see http://osflash.org/ames) - since my company bought me a FDT license. For my part, Eclipse+FDT is my favorite plateform for flash project development management and, yes, I still do my builds with the Flash IDE for historical reasons ;-) Hope it helps, Julien Andy Herrman a écrit : Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
Yes, this commercial plugin is FDT by PowerFlasher, http://fdt.powerflasher.com/flashsite/flash.htm It's really nice too, and not at all that expensive (199 Euro's). But if you don't really need Eclipse and just want a solid lightweight (!= Eclipse) editor I'd go for FlashDevelop. Sven On 10/12/06, Robert r. Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd try FlashDevelop (at least for actionscript 2); you can still do the actual compile w/ the Flash IDE. There are a few, older tools, with actionscript 1 support, but I'm not familiar w/ any of them anymore. There is also a partially working, but discontinued plugin for Eclipse, which can then be used in conjunction w/ the CVS or SVN team provider for Eclipse - also there is a commercial plugin to, its kind of expensive and I've never used it. Hope that helps. Andy Herrman wrote: Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
In addition to Eclipse plug in, SEPY and FlashDevelop, there is also Sci|Te Flash. Flashdevelop seems like the best one to me - Sepy kept crashing on me, even after updates and SciTE Flash had some features missing I would have liked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert r. Sanders Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:04 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel I'd try FlashDevelop (at least for actionscript 2); you can still do the actual compile w/ the Flash IDE. There are a few, older tools, with actionscript 1 support, but I'm not familiar w/ any of them anymore. There is also a partially working, but discontinued plugin for Eclipse, which can then be used in conjunction w/ the CVS or SVN team provider for Eclipse - also there is a commercial plugin to, its kind of expensive and I've never used it. Hope that helps. Andy Herrman wrote: Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
FDT? (http://fdt.powerflasher.com/flashsite/flash.htm) I love it. People complain that it's too expensive, but it paid for itself in a few hours... Jim Kremens On 10/12/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to Eclipse plug in, SEPY and FlashDevelop, there is also Sci|Te Flash. Flashdevelop seems like the best one to me - Sepy kept crashing on me, even after updates and SciTE Flash had some features missing I would have liked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert r. Sanders Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:04 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel I'd try FlashDevelop (at least for actionscript 2); you can still do the actual compile w/ the Flash IDE. There are a few, older tools, with actionscript 1 support, but I'm not familiar w/ any of them anymore. There is also a partially working, but discontinued plugin for Eclipse, which can then be used in conjunction w/ the CVS or SVN team provider for Eclipse - also there is a commercial plugin to, its kind of expensive and I've never used it. Hope that helps. Andy Herrman wrote: Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jim Kremens ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
I think FDT is the one I saw, but I don't think I could get the company to spring for buying it for me (and personally I'm pretty cheap). :) I tried SEPY for a while about a month or two ago, but it was extremely unstable. It would crash on my multiple times a day, regardless of which version I tried. It wasn't quite what I was looking for, but was pretty good, so I was sad that it wasn't stable. I'll take a look at FlashDevelop. Sounds like a lot of people here have found it useful. Thanks! -Andy On 10/12/06, Jim Kremens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FDT? (http://fdt.powerflasher.com/flashsite/flash.htm) I love it. People complain that it's too expensive, but it paid for itself in a few hours... Jim Kremens On 10/12/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to Eclipse plug in, SEPY and FlashDevelop, there is also Sci|Te Flash. Flashdevelop seems like the best one to me - Sepy kept crashing on me, even after updates and SciTE Flash had some features missing I would have liked. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert r. Sanders Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:04 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel I'd try FlashDevelop (at least for actionscript 2); you can still do the actual compile w/ the Flash IDE. There are a few, older tools, with actionscript 1 support, but I'm not familiar w/ any of them anymore. There is also a partially working, but discontinued plugin for Eclipse, which can then be used in conjunction w/ the CVS or SVN team provider for Eclipse - also there is a commercial plugin to, its kind of expensive and I've never used it. Hope that helps. Andy Herrman wrote: Forgive me if this has already been asked, but I didn't see anything in the archives. I'm new to Flash development and am working on both server and client side code (FMS 2.0 and Flash 7+). As someone who's used to doing Java development using Netbeans I find the Flash IDE very lacking for client side development, and there doesn't seem to be any IDE for FMS. Does anyone on this list know of a good alternative IDE for Flash? I've found a lot of references to using Eclipse but I haven't been able to get the plugin to work correctly. I'm specifically looking for something that can handle both Actionscript 1 and 2 and can still use the Flash 8 devel environment for the actual builds (I can't use MTASC). Unfortunately it will also have to be free, as I don't think I'll be able to get the company to buy an IDE for me to use. :( Is there anything out there I can use, or am I out of luck? Right now I'm just using Vim for editing the files themselves and switching to Flash 8 for building, but the lack of any kind of project management is getting annoying. Thanks! -Andy ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Robert r. Sanders Chief Technologist iPOV (334) 821-5412 www.ipov.net ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jim Kremens ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
Why can't you use MTASC? If you're serious about Flash development, you should be using it. I have a Flash application that literally takes 30 seconds to compile in the IDE and less than a second with MTASC. If you don't want to have to write out that long command line compile script (and who does) you should check out FLASC, which is a great GUI for MTASC which runs as a panel in the Flash IDE. http://www.osflash.org/flasc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel
This looks great, but I can't figure out how to create a project in FLASC. Specifically, it asks me to create a batch file first. What batch file? What it is looking for? P. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Sacks | BLITZ Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:57 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Alternative IDE for Flash Devel Why can't you use MTASC? If you're serious about Flash development, you should be using it. I have a Flash application that literally takes 30 seconds to compile in the IDE and less than a second with MTASC. If you don't want to have to write out that long command line compile script (and who does) you should check out FLASC, which is a great GUI for MTASC which runs as a panel in the Flash IDE. http://www.osflash.org/flasc ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
