Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-22 Thread mika
Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of mika Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:12 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 I'll be buying this book for starters

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-18 Thread Merrill, Jason
] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 I'll be buying this book for starters : The Essential Guide to 3D in Flash http://www.amazon.fr/Essential-Guide-3D-Flash/dp/1430225416/ref=sr_1_1?i e=UTF8s=english-booksqid=1281969345sr=8-1 Know of another I shouldn't miss

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (thereceptacle.co.uk)
unity 3d is a separate plugin but if you're serious about doing 3d, it's probably the way to go a On 17 August 2010 00:42, Peter B pete...@googlemail.com wrote: On 17 August 2010 07:31, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: I believe it will let you, in swift, create an interactive

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (thereceptacle.co.uk)
also, swift 3d is a modeller - it may have some interesting export settings but unless it uses a 3d engine in flash (i believe jason said that it exports to papervision), you get no interactivity for your money a On 17 August 2010 10:10, Allandt Bik-Elliott (thereceptacle.co.uk)

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Yes, its a modeler and it has the ability to build your papervision file for you. In case you dont know how to use papervision. http://www.erain.com/products/swift3d/upgrade/ On Aug 17, 2010, at 4:12 AM, Allandt Bik-Elliott (thereceptacle.co.uk) wrote: also, swift 3d is a modeller - it

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Allandt Bik-Elliott (thereceptacle.co.uk)
I don't know the costs involved in using Unity, but since their is a cost there will be continued development - though the price may rise (too high?) with success. i think they use a freemium model - free for web deployment but ever increasing costs for extra functionality / deployment

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread John McCormack
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:37 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 Hi, I guess I'll chime in one more time and say Swift 3D is a very powerful tool for flash 3d. Swift was built to integrate to flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Kerry Thompson
Allandt Bik-Elliott wrote: unity 3d is a separate plugin but if you're serious about doing 3d, it's probably the way to go I agree--I mentioned it a couple of days ago. It's a much more capable 3D program than Flash+PaperVision. I also recommended Director/Shockwave as a viable alternative.

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Paul Andrews
I guess the OP is new to this stuff and doesn't yet realise that the road to photorealistic 3D with Flash has a few steep hills. Rather than try and find the best I suggest the OP goes for the road most travelled by which is PaperVision 3D which has plenty of online resources and books to

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 I plan to target FP10, but I have a 3d designer doing the modelling work, so i will need to import models. The app is part of a large project, and I want it to be able to grow overtime. A solid engine is hence required. The models will range

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Merrill, Jason
One assumption I made is its easy (at least possible) to dynamically load a bitmap and apply it on the model? Yes - pretty easy with Papervision3D or Away3D. Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect Bank of America Global Learning Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Brian Mays
Hello, all! I noticed all the 3D posts this morning. I had a call from someone needing some work done in 3D and Flash. Honestly don't have more details than that, but do have a contact who does. If you're interested I can put you together with him. Apologies for interrupting the conversation!

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
Thanks for your thoughts (to all, what a great community response!) Theres one feature I havent mentionned : the product will be customizable. Meaning, taking a shirt for example, the user should be able to change the length and colors of the sleeves. A bit like :

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Merrill, Jason
available for Bank of America associates) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of mika Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:36 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
Unfortunately, its not an option. The project has to be 100% flash. Plus beeing a flash addict, It would feel like betrayal! (joking, but there's some truth in it ;) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:10, Allandt Bik-Elliott (thereceptacle.co.uk) alla...@receptacledesign.com wrote: unity 3d is a

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
Sure Bryan ! with pleasure ! heres my contact : cont...@mikarama.fr On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 15:17, Brian Mays bm...@newsok.com wrote: Hello, all! I noticed all the 3D posts this morning. I had a call from someone needing some work done in 3D and Flash. Honestly don't have more details than

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread Merrill, Jason
: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:45 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 Swapping out the textures on a 3D model will be easy

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of mika Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:36 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 Thanks for your thoughts (to all, what a great community response!) Theres one feature I

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
The OP takes it as a wise advice. The Op hired a professionnal 3D modeler to put all his efforts on the flash side :) On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:23, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: I guess the OP is new to this stuff and doesn't yet realise that the road to photorealistic 3D with Flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 Thanks for your thoughts (to all, what a great community response!) Theres one feature I havent mentionned : the product will be customizable. Meaning, taking a shirt for example, the user should be able to change the length and colors of the sleeves. A bit

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-17 Thread mika
I'll be buying this book for starters : The Essential Guide to 3D in Flash http://www.amazon.fr/Essential-Guide-3D-Flash/dp/1430225416/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=english-booksqid=1281969345sr=8-1 Know of another I shouldn't miss ? ___ Flashcoders mailing list

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Kerry Thompson
Mika wrote: For an upcoming project, I will need to dwelwe in the 3d world of flash. I am in the stage of choosing the engine. If you were to keep as sole paramater the best photo realistic render, to display products (very little animation, mostly rotate around), what engine would you

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread mika
I plan to target FP10, but I have a 3d designer doing the modelling work, so i will need to import models. The app is part of a large project, and I want it to be able to grow overtime. A solid engine is hence required. The models will range from soccer balls, rugby ball, hand ball ... to shirts,

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Merrill, Jason
-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of mika Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:47 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 I plan to target FP10, but I have a 3d designer doing the modelling work, so i will need to import models. The app is part of a large

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Taka Kojima
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of mika Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:47 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 I plan to target FP10, but I have a 3d designer doing the modelling work, so i will need to import models. The app

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread mika
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of mika Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:47 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 I plan to target FP10, but I have a 3d designer doing the modelling work, so i will need to import models. The app is part of a large project, and I

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Kerry Thompson
Mika wrote: I plan to target FP10, but I have a 3d designer doing the modelling work, so i will need to import models. The app is part of a large project, and I want it to be able to grow overtime. A solid engine is hence required. The models will range from soccer balls, rugby ball, hand

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Merrill, Jason
As for papervision, this http://www.unitzeroone.com/blog/2009/09/28/goodbye-papervision/ sounds like away3d is the one to keep. Possibly, given the Papervision3D team has changed and lately doesn't seem to be doing much development, but that post, from almost a full year ago, was just about one

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
Hi, I guess I'll chime in one more time and say Swift 3D is a very powerful tool for flash 3d. Swift was built to integrate to flash and it also will let you import your 3DSMAX files (and many other formats including Papervision3D support) into it. But I believe, but don't quote me, that

RE: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Merrill, Jason
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Karl DeSaulniers Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:37 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 Hi, I guess I'll chime in one more time and say Swift 3D is a very powerful tool for flash 3d. Swift was built to integrate to flash and it also

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Karl DeSaulniers
: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:37 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3 Hi, I guess I'll chime in one more time and say Swift 3D is a very powerful tool for flash 3d. Swift was built to integrate to flash and it also will let you import your 3DSMAX files

Re: [Flashcoders] Photo-realistic 3d in as3

2010-08-16 Thread Peter B
On 17 August 2010 07:31, Karl DeSaulniers k...@designdrumm.com wrote: I believe it will let you, in swift, create an interactive animation utilizing the vectors of your polys and integrate AS code to control it, Swift is just generating the polygon ,odel and textures. In order to add