RE: [Flightgear-devel] A380 3D model FDM reference point

2005-06-13 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Martin Martin Spott writes Hello, just an informal note To my impression the A380 needs an offset vector for the FDM reference point in order to make it rotate around its CG. Could the author confirm ? This is correct I was going to move the whole 3D model in AC3D after everything

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380 3D model FDM reference point

2005-06-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 13, 2005 02:40 pm, Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Martin Martin Spott writes Hello, just an informal note To my impression the A380 needs an offset vector for the FDM reference point in order to make it rotate around its CG. Could the author confirm ? This is correct I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-19 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Innis Cunningham wrote: Durk Talsma writes On Wednesday 19 January 2005 00:58, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 01:51 pm, Christian Mayer wrote: When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-19 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Now that we have pictures of it on our web page, and a way to distribute individual aircraft, we definitely need Ampere to upload/email it to me. :-) Probably he'd prefer to do some fine-tuning until the original has its maiden flight in april :-) Martin. -- Unix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 19, 2005 12:02 pm, Martin Spott wrote: Probably he'd prefer to do some fine-tuning until the original has its maiden flight in april  :-) Martin. You read my mind. =) As far as development goes, all Innis and I have right now is the FDM Model and the exterior 3D Model. What we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Paul Surgeon wrote: How would I model for instance the ECAM switching on an A340 at the moment? The switches are located on the center pedestal but the displays are on the center panel. Would I have to add them to the properties tree? How do I control the logic of those switches? If there is a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 18, 2005 02:21 am, Paul Surgeon wrote: Running Nasal code in the rendering loop to do tons of work would not be a very good idea in my opinion. I've looked through an A320 FCOM manual and it would take many thousands of lines of C++ to accomplish a half functional aircraft. I don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
The roll out is on, LIVE! http://www.tv-radio.com/station/public_senat/public_senat-150k.asx For German user, they can tune to N-TV. Right now, it is 6:00 here. I woke up at 4:30 just to watch this! The aircraft has yet been revealed. Ampere ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 18, 2005 05:53 am, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: The roll out is on, LIVE! http://www.tv-radio.com/station/public_senat/public_senat-150k.asx For German user, they can tune to N-TV. Right now, it is 6:00 here. I woke up at 4:30 just to watch this! The aircraft has yet been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 08:21, Paul Surgeon wrote: On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc. Paul It will be nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 11:53, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: The roll out is on, LIVE! http://www.tv-radio.com/station/public_senat/public_senat-150k.asx For German user, they can tune to N-TV. Right now, it is 6:00 here. I woke up at 4:30 just to watch this! The aircraft has yet been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
JUST UNVALILED! Awsome! Ampere http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/BUSINESS/01/18/airbus.380/top.unveiled.jpg http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/01/18/airbus.380/index.html After the unveiling, the aircraft still can't be seen clearly because of the blue light. This continued for about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Durk Talsma writes On Tuesday 18 January 2005 08:21, Paul Surgeon wrote: On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: Anyway if you guys can come up with a way to do the switching on the fly I can do the screens. If all 3d instruments are contained in one 3d model file and separated with objects names (or object group names) then it could be as easy as using the select animation to turn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Anyway if you guys can come up with a way to do the switching on the fly I can do the screens. If all 3d instruments are contained in one 3d model file and separated with objects names (or object group names) then it could be as easy as using the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Erik Hofman Erik Hofman wrote: Innis Cunningham wrote: Anyway if you guys can come up with a way to do the switching on the fly I can do the screens. If all 3d instruments are contained in one 3d model file and separated with objects names (or object group names) then it could be as easy as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380 - Virtual Screen inside Flightgear driven by SVG commands?

2005-01-18 Thread Oliver C.
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 08:21, Paul Surgeon wrote: On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc. Paul It will be nice

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Innis Cunningham wrote: The thing is that several screens models would be using the same area of panel. How ,for example. could you turn the fuel system screen model off and the main engine indicating screen model on. That would be no problem. You can draw them all in the same location (0,0,0)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Erik Hofman writes Innis Cunningham wrote: The thing is that several screens models would be using the same area of panel. How ,for example. could you turn the fuel system screen model off and the main engine indicating screen model on. That would be no problem. You can draw them all in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380 - Virtual Screen inside Flightgear driven by SVG commands?

2005-01-18 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Oliver C. schrieb: Is it possible to implement a sort of virtual screen (like a texture but vector driven not bitmap driven) inside the Flightgear Window that can be put anywhere in the flightgear 3d world, for example inside of a cockpit as a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Surgeon schrieb: Running Nasal code in the rendering loop to do tons of work would not be a very good idea in my opinion. I've looked through an A320 FCOM manual and it would take many thousands of lines of C++ to accomplish a half

RE: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Erik Hofman wrote Paul Surgeon wrote: How would I model for instance the ECAM switching on an A340 at the moment? The switches are located on the center pedestal but the displays are on the center panel. Would I have to add them to the properties tree? How do I control the logic of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:04, Durk Talsma wrote: So, are you suggesting we should do it ourselves and shift priorities? Work on glass cockpits Instead of creating 3D models, and FDMs? Doesn't sound like its gonna work. There are currently some really talented people working on 3D models,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 15:34, Innis Cunningham wrote: Paul what do you consider an empty cockpit, do you for instance consider the 747 an empty cockpit and if so what instruments do you think constitutes a populated cockpit. Primarily a working FMC/FMS and ND so that one can enter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Durk Talsma
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 19:28, Paul Surgeon wrote: On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 13:04, Durk Talsma wrote: So, are you suggesting we should do it ourselves and shift priorities? Work on glass cockpits Instead of creating 3D models, and FDMs? Doesn't sound like its gonna work. There are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 19:28, Paul Surgeon wrote: I just find it frustrating when I start up a nice aircraft to find out that there no way to navigate the thing across open oceans. I don't think real world pilots use a magnetic compass to navigate where VOR's and NDB's don't live. You can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380 - Virtual Screen inside Flightgear driven by SVG commands?

2005-01-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Tuesday 18 January 2005 14:26, Oliver C. wrote: On Tuesday 18 January 2005 08:21, Paul Surgeon wrote: On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 17, 2005 01:51 pm, Christian Mayer wrote: When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/17/0437202.shtml?tid=126 CU, Christian ;) Of course not. Check out: http://flightgear.org/Gallery/ Ampere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Paul Surgeon writes I don't think real world pilots use a magnetic compass to navigate where VOR's and NDB's don't live. I don't know I guess the pilots that ferry Cessna's from America to Australia don,t have the luxury of an FMS system Paul Cheers Innis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Durk Talsma
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 00:58, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 01:51 pm, Christian Mayer wrote: When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/17/0437202.shtml?tid=126 CU, Christian ;) Of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-18 Thread Innis Cunningham
Durk Talsma writes On Wednesday 19 January 2005 00:58, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 01:51 pm, Christian Mayer wrote: When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/17/0437202.shtml?tid=126 CU,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Monday, 17 January 2005 20:51, Christian Mayer wrote: When do we have a flyable A380? It can't be that Airbus was faster than we are: http://slashdot.org/articles/05/01/17/0437202.shtml?tid=126 When we can get the specs and no I don't just mean the shape of the aircraft. We already have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc. Paul It will be nice if you can implement these systems, perferablely by Nasal so that they can be flexible. Ampere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380

2005-01-17 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Tuesday, 18 January 2005 04:40, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On January 17, 2005 02:25 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: We already have too many empty 3D models in FG without working FMCs, FMSs, ECAMs, NDs, etc. Paul It will be nice if you can implement these systems, perferablely by Nasal so