[Flightgear-devel] surprising command-line feature

2010-02-05 Thread John Denker
ted anywhere in getstart.pdf or in the --help --verbose message. commit 3a4e6c2177b05ac14002e6795abaa6c5582c31c8 Author: John Denker Date: Fri Feb 5 08:50:09 2010 -0700 More informative error message. diff --git a/simgear/structure/exception.cxx b/simgear/structure/exception.cx

Re: [Flightgear-devel] memory hemorrhage

2010-02-04 Thread John Denker
On 02/03/2010 02:00 AM, Tim Moore asked: >> Do you still get it now, after the shader errors have >> (hopefully) been banished? On 02/03/2010 10:18 AM, I replied > > Three answers: > > 1) The shader issue is greatly improved. No more nasty > shader-related error messages on the console. Th

[Flightgear-devel] severe erosion of the terrain

2010-02-04 Thread John Denker
Here’s the setup: Start the program as fgfs --airport=KLXV --metar=" 012345Z 0KT 99SM CLR 15/M01 A2992" Let the aircraft sit on the runway. There is no need to start the engine. Use the "v" key to cycle through the available views. The scenery looks normal until you get to the last v

Re: [Flightgear-devel] memory hemorrhage

2010-02-03 Thread John Denker
On 02/03/2010 02:00 AM, Tim Moore wrote: > Do you still get it now, after the shader errors have > (hopefully) been banished? Three answers: 1) The shader issue is greatly improved. No more nasty shader-related error messages on the console. This is an improvement at all airports, not just

Re: [Flightgear-devel] configuration info

2010-02-03 Thread John Denker
On 02/03/2010 01:37 AM, Tim Moore wrote: >>> What hardware and driver? A possible workaround is to comment out the >> conditional tests related to gl_FrontFacing >> in Shaders/default.frag and Shaders/mat-anim.frag. >> Tim >> >> Whoops, never mind. Try the Shaders/mat-anim.frag that I just checke

Re: [Flightgear-devel] memory hemorrhage

2010-02-03 Thread John Denker
On 02/03/2010 12:22 AM, Tim Moore wrote: > This might be associated with the replay system, and I don't see a good way > to turn it off completely. Try starting with /sim/replay/disable set to true > and see if that changes anything. No change. Also FWIW turning off random vegetation = no change.

[Flightgear-devel] Get rid of annoying "Failed to load object" message

2010-02-02 Thread John Denker
The commit messages for these commits seem self-explanatory. commit f38db3f433e77cd59c2332dbda779774768bcf96 Author: John Denker Date: Tue Feb 2 22:00:17 2010 -0700 Get rid of annoying "Failed to load object" message. diff --git a/materials.xml b/materials.xml index 0ccd58

[Flightgear-devel] memory hemorrhage

2010-02-02 Thread John Denker
I observe that the memory usage of FG increases steadily at the rate of 144 megabytes per minute for at least the first 7 minutes. That seems rather far outside the acceptable range. As you might expect, this is associated with dramatic degradation of the frame rate and other ugliness. This appe

[Flightgear-devel] atomic terrasync, or not

2010-02-02 Thread John Denker
Hi -- When terrasync is running, are the updates atomic? I suspect not, since terrasync depends on svn, and AFAIK svn commits are atomic but checkouts are not. I've seem some pretty weird irreproducible results which might be explained by FG reading half of a new file plus half of an old file bec

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.0.0 release process: Update

2010-02-02 Thread John Denker
On 02/01/2010 10:52 AM, Durk Talsma wrote: > Here's just a quick update regarding the 2.0.0 release. The final release is > really close now. We had planned to have a third release candidate by now, > which we would promote to the final release within a few days from now, > provided that no fur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear 2.0.0 release process: Update

2010-02-02 Thread John Denker
On 02/02/2010 07:41 AM, Francesco Angelo Brisa wrote: > Do you need me to create deb packages for ubuntu (9.10)/debian(5.0) for > this release ? Well, it would be nice if somebody would create such things. > if yes I need to know a couple of things: > 1) where to get the exact fgfs/simgear/osg c

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear movies, streaming video, ...

2010-01-31 Thread John Denker
Hi -- >From time to time people make movies of FGFS. What's the recommended way of doing that? I surmise that --jpg-httpd might be one way of approaching things ... but just saying "jpg-httpd" is not a complete solution to the overall task. The semantics of --jpg-httpd is not documented in gets

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-22 Thread John Denker
On 12/22/2009 02:35 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I think all that is required is that we make clear that auto-coordination is > designed to help people without any rudder control axis, and that a proper > rudder axis (or even a twist axis on a joystick) is preferable. On 12/21/2009 08:59 PM, Cur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-21 Thread John Denker
On 12/21/2009 02:36 PM, Anders Gidenstam wrote: > It seems to work ok here. Interesting > Are you sure you don't have some noisy input > device like a joystick or pedals connected that might affect the > rudder axis? > If two input axes are bound to the same control the last write wins.

[Flightgear-devel] auto-coordination broken

2009-12-21 Thread John Denker
The –enable-auto-coordination feature never worked very well, but now it even more broken than it used to be. I observe different symptoms in different aircraft. In the default c172p, it appears to have no effect at all. In the SenecaII, the most observable effect is that it makes it impossibl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 12:54 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: >> I believe >>--metar=" 012345Z 0KT 99SM CLR 59/M01 A2992" >> is a correct and useful example ... but somebody should double >> check. > > Thanks for the example - I'll include it in the docs. My only comment is that > I thought the temp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 09:15 AM, stefan riemens suggested: > How about making allowing one to set the proposed > preferred-approach-deg property, but not requiring it. It's already not required. It has a reasonable default. Most users will never even know it's there. This is in line with real-world rea

[Flightgear-devel] half-associated navaids

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 06:35 AM, Martin Spott wrote: >> Fix for Martin: tolerate runway-associated navaids with a bogus ICAO/runway >> ident. > > Thanks a lot, works as advertized, To facilitate testing, could somebody please provide a list of (some or all of) the navaids that fall into this category?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-20 Thread John Denker
On 12/20/2009 05:06 AM, James Turner wrote: > Anyway, my objection is that delegating the active runway to a user > property (or menu item) is abdicating a hard problem to the user, It's not just hard, it's ESP-complete. > ... for most users > it's a confusing setting. The more relevant questio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-19 Thread John Denker
On 05/24/2009 02:58 AM, Torsten Dreyer wrote in part: > Step #2 > Add an option --metar= > - this implies --disable-real-weather-fetch and set scenario to METAR > - make the metar string editable in the weather_scenario dialog > This option needs some changes in the logic of real-weather-fetch and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-19 Thread John Denker
Back in the 2nd week of September there was discussion of reversible ILSs. Maybe I missed something, but I thought there was rough consensus around the following ideas: a) FG behavior should be reasonably realistic. We should not make artificial assumptions that make approaches unflyable, whe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navaids update

2009-12-19 Thread John Denker
On 12/19/2009 07:40 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > ... Robin's current set of navaids ... > contains navaids for airfields which are otherwise unknown to > FlightGear, On the opposite side of the same coin, the last time I looked, the scenery database listed huge numbers of airports that were unknow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glide slope (ILS) range

2009-12-18 Thread John Denker
On 12/18/2009 04:22 PM, leee wrote: >>> I live beneath the turn-in point for clockwise approaches on 05 >>> at Stanstead Airport (EGSS) >> I assume that was supposed to say runway 04 at Stansted. >> ^^ > > Just reporting the number that's paint

[Flightgear-devel] --config nav.dat

2009-12-18 Thread John Denker
Extended LOC volumes are fairly common. Extended GS volumes are not so common, but definitely exist. If anybody wants an example of an approach that does require an extended service volume for the GS (and LOC) ... take a look at KIAH ILS RWY 26R http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0912/05461IL26R.PD

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glide slope (ILS) range

2009-12-18 Thread John Denker
On 12/18/2009 12:30 PM, leee wrote: > I live beneath the turn-in point for clockwise approaches on 05 at > Stanstead Airport (EGSS) I assume that was supposed to say runway 04 at Stansted. ^^ > and most airliners, up to 747s and MD-11s, >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glide slope (ILS) range

2009-12-17 Thread John Denker
On 12/17/2009 11:44 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: > I had a squawk here from a (real) King Air pilot because on an ILS approach, > our glideslope indicator doesn't become active/in-range until about 7-8 > miles out. Beyond this range the indicator just stays centered at zero. > With a standard 3 degree

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-14 Thread John Denker
Status summary: 0) I merged in Jester's nan-fixes. That was easy: git remote add -t nan-fixes jester git://gitorious.org/~jester/fg/jesters-clone.git git pull jester make I have not explicitly disabled real-weather-fetch, but it appears to be non-enabled by default. The ai-traf

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Pro Sim Statement

2009-12-14 Thread John Denker
On 12/14/2009 02:30 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote in part: > Q: Is is legal to sell a copy of FlightGear, whether re-branded or not ? > A: > Yes. Technically, the purchaser is paying for the distribution of the Since we are not lawyers here, I would shy away from answering bluntly "yes" to a legal qu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] simgear version number now a string

2009-12-14 Thread John Denker
Here's another way of getting the job done. This is tidier in the sense that it leaves simgear unchanged. commit cd0af70c868210f46584a1e5e922364b9f2e63ce Author: John Denker Date: Mon Dec 14 11:50:53 2009 -0700 Print SIMGEAR_VERSION as a string, even though it doesn't come

Re: [Flightgear-devel] simgear version number now a string

2009-12-14 Thread John Denker
r" since it >> is not a number. > > It's a NaN! Sorry :) Ew. ===== commit 9ea41430a4e12767c67fdd2e2799b47670c1cba0 Author: John Denker Date: Mon Dec 14 11:26:05 2009 -0700 Add SIMGEAR_VERSION_STRING (emphasis on STRING). diff --git a/simgear/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] simgear version number now a string

2009-12-14 Thread John Denker
On 12/14/2009 10:30 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: > Csaba Halász wrote: >> The recent change which makes a string from the simgear version breaks >> FG configure. >> I don't think introducing an incompatible change to the version macro >> is a good idea. >> Erik, can you explain why you made the change? I

[Flightgear-devel] AI ==> airport, facility, and environment services

2009-12-14 Thread John Denker
On 12/13/2009 11:29 PM, Durk Talsma wrote: > FWIW, as per previous agreement, I've started investigating how much effort > it > is going to cost to remove the ai-code altogether. There are a few places > where the existing code depends on ATCDCL functions. Isolating these > shouldn't > be too

Re: [Flightgear-devel] print() from keyboard and joystick

2009-12-13 Thread John Denker
Did y'all know that nasal printing is implemented via SG_LOG(SG_GENERAL, SG_ALERT, buf) ? That means that if you don't have "general" included in your logging classes, and/or don't have "alert" or lower as your logging level, you won't see any nasal printouts. This affects nasal error message

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-13 Thread John Denker
On 12/13/2009 02:33 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: > Jon, could you specify if this was with 'real' weather enabled or > disabled? I've seen something similar when it was enabled but haven't > seen it without real weather. With an explicit --disable-real-weather-fetch, I still observe an early FPE, wh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-13 Thread John Denker
Update: I now have a workaround configuration that at least allows me to park without anything too terrible happening. The sim will run for an hour, even with the FPE trap enabled. This workaround configuration (call it "X") entails: 1) Passing *no* options on the command line, using options in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
On 12/12/2009 02:03 PM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > I could solve that issue with disabling AI-Traffic (Not the Interactive > Traffic) I hate to ask silly questions, but ... are you suggesting --disable-ai-models Disable the artificial traffic subsystem. The last time I used that option s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
Update: To observe this bug, I don't even need to taxi. I can just sit at the starting point of runway 31L at JFK with the engine off. After sitting about 8 minutes, I observe nan messages on the console. One interesting thing is that *no* floating point exception was raised this time. The F

[Flightgear-devel] --metar

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
I have some basic questions about the "--metar" command-line option. AFAICT the getstart.pdf manual doesn't mention this option. The --verbose --help message mentions the option, and implies that it takes an argument ... but doesn't say anything about the syntax or semantics of the argument. I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cleared to land

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
On 12/12/2009 10:25 AM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > I as I understood we don't have any real artificial/ interacting ATC in FGFS. > That means the messages are more or less just for fun. > If we use a generic rwy no we could argument that it is the wrong rwy for the > given wind. > > The better sol

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
On 12/12/2009 05:16 AM, Csaba Halász wrote: > Hi John, > Could you please use the --enable-fpe option and try to get a backtrace? Sure. In one case I had to taxi a little while before getting an FPE: http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/fpe--27376.log In another case I got an FPE very early, while th

[Flightgear-devel] cleared to land

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
Overheard at KSFO in FG: >>> Golf Foxtrot Sierra Cleared to land This is not realistic. It would be quite unusual for SFO Tower to give a landing clearance without specifying which runway. Suggestion: Cessna Golf Foxtrot Sierra, runway one zero right, cleared to land ^^

Re: [Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
On 12/12/2009 04:53 AM, I wrote: > Afte taxiing a little ways down runway 31L at JFK, the > display freezes and the sim starts spewing messages to > the console: > > Warning:: Picked up error in TriangleIntersect > > For additional details see > > http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/nan--25387.lo

[Flightgear-devel] nan-a-palooza

2009-12-12 Thread John Denker
Afte taxiing a little ways down runway 31L at JFK, the display freezes and the sim starts spewing messages to the console: Warning:: Picked up error in TriangleIntersect For additional details see http://www.av8n.com/fly/fgfs/nan--25387.log This is observed when some properties are being

Re: [Flightgear-devel] basic flight dynamics

2009-12-11 Thread John Denker
This reduces by an order of magnitude the amount of adverse yaw _in cruising flight_ in the c172p. This is much more realistic. There is still a ton of adverse yaw during slow flight. commit 74e59d6c9fb1eca08fb446c26c7b5d873c45b0ea Author: John Denker Date: Fri Dec 11 11:12:08 2009 -0700

[Flightgear-devel] print() from keyboard and joystick

2009-12-11 Thread John Denker
Not too long ago, it was possible to print to stdout from nasal scripts called from keyboard event handlers and joystick axis handlers. In the current (development) version, print() statements have no effect chez moi. Similarly, runtime nasal error messages are not appearing. Is this intentional

Re: [Flightgear-devel] basic flight dynamics

2009-12-11 Thread John Denker
On 12/03/2009 10:18 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: >> I took the opportunity to check the PoH against the simulator >> experience. While I didn't go as far as getting the OAT exactly >> right, the errors I came across were fairly signficant (using a HUD >> to get accurate altitude/TAS etc.) The curr

[Flightgear-devel] scenery opportunity : nexrad towers (and VOR shacks)

2009-12-11 Thread John Denker
Hi Folks -- There is is an opportunity to add some interesting, aviation-related features to the FG scenery. Here is a list of NEXRAD (weather radar) sites: http://www.mmm.ucar.edu/pdas/ftp/data/nexrad-craft.net http://www.cimms.ou.edu/~langston/hybridscan/radarinfo.html And here are the spe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] fgfs compile error, today's cvs

2009-12-10 Thread John Denker
Curtis Olson wrote: >> I'm not sure the best way to handle this but if you start at the top and >> run ./autogen.sh followed by ./configure --options I think the error >> will be cleaned up. Switching files from abc.c to abc.cxx confuses the >> dependency tracking of automake. It may be even w

Re: [Flightgear-devel] terrasync follies

2009-12-07 Thread John Denker
I patched terrasync to make it more usable, more like a proper daemon -- writes pid to file -- normally does not exit until signalled -- uses blocking and non-blocking I/O as appropriate. http://gitorious.org/~jsd/fg/sport-model/commits/sport Usage example: pid=$(cat $pidfile 2>/dev/null) if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-07 Thread John Denker
On 12/06/2009 12:26 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: >>> 14 :: c172p rudder pedals > Can you confirm that the pedals are mounted on the floor? Yes. Useful reference for pedal layout and other details: http://www.flyjnm.com/db4/00381/flyjnm.com/_uimages/P1010033.JPG The recent upgrades (pedals

[Flightgear-devel] terrasync follies

2009-12-06 Thread John Denker
Scenario: Terrasync is running. FG is running. FG exits. New copy of FG starts. Terrasync says, quote pos in msg = -,- lat = - lon = - lat_dir = -1 lon_dir = -1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CDI head fixed

2009-12-05 Thread John Denker
On 12/01/2009 01:06 PM, dave perry wrote: >>> [disappearing GS needle] > This was fixed as well as adding realistic GS and Nav flags and > smooth transitions to 0 position when out of range or switching to > new freq w/o LOC. The c172p, pa24, and pa28 all now use the vor in > Aircraft/Instrumen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-05 Thread John Denker
On 12/04/2009 03:29 PM, Martin Spott wrote in part: > Actually, I think, when the release happens we're simply going to > make a snapshot of what is available via TerraSync and offer this for a > packaged download. As a side effect, this would be the best way to have > a large user base testing th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Airports runways.cxx, 1.43,

2009-12-05 Thread John Denker
On 12/05/2009 01:35 PM, Martin Spott wrote: > The displaced threshold is relevant for landing, in the sense of "don't > touch ground before this line", maybe due to noise abatement measures, > safety or some other reasons. Exactly so. > The take-off run, in contrast, defaults to start at the run

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-03 Thread John Denker
On 12/01/2009 12:47 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: >> 4 :: wrong runway, not in airport database > I suspect that might be an artifact of the apt.dat file being out of > kilter with the scenery you've got. Have you tried TerraSync to see > what the latest scenery looks like. Yes, things look much di

[Flightgear-devel] basic flight dynamics

2009-12-03 Thread John Denker
On 12/03/2009 10:18 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I took the opportunity to check the PoH against the simulator > experience. While I didn't go as far as getting the OAT exactly > right, the errors I came across were fairly signficant (using a HUD > to get accurate altitude/TAS etc.) > > As I thin

[Flightgear-devel] ground effect +- h_b-mac-ft +- documentation

2009-12-03 Thread John Denker
On 12/01/2009 12:47 PM, Stuart Buchanan asked: > You suggest two possible explanations. Not having access to a C-172, > nor enough flight time to be able to guess which is correct, I'm not > sure there's much I can sensibly do without making it worse. If you > can suggest which is wrong, I'll see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-01 Thread John Denker
On 12/01/2009 12:47 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > Thanks for the list. :-) >> 22 :: c172p trim indicator > Do you have any pictures of this? I've had difficulty finding > anything. Also, what's the take-off trim position? As mentioned by HHS, here is a Cessna POH in .pdf format: http://www.re

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-01 Thread John Denker
On 12/01/2009 02:04 PM, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Thanks for testing and reporting. :-) I updated my bug list. > From my point of view, there is no showstopper for a release with > the Seneca. Agreed. It's definitely an impressive piece of work. > Transponder ... not a bug. I moved it to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-01 Thread John Denker
On 12/01/2009 11:19 AM, Heiko Schulz wrote: > thank your for the bug report. :-) > But it would be great if you could update your datas and FGFS > generally, there was some smaller changes done on the c172p and other > things lately. Every one of those bug reports has a date. There are so man

[Flightgear-devel] releases +- bugs

2009-12-01 Thread John Denker
On 11/26/2009 11:28 PM, Tim Moore wrote: > When those are merged in, and I expect that to happen before December 1st, I > suggest > we roll those up as a real beta and start working towards a New Year's Eve > release. > I won't plan on merging anything else to the master branches before the > r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up -- effects for models

2009-11-15 Thread John Denker
On 11/15/2009 06:05 AM, Anders Gidenstam wrote: > Hi John, > > Can you check if > > aptitude install libboost-all-dev > > doesn't upgrade your system to boost 1.40? Wow. Thanks for the clue. Simgear and FGFS compile OK here now. > It did here. I had at some previous time explicitly installe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] International Runway Issue (leading zeros)

2009-11-15 Thread John Denker
On 11/15/2009 06:08 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: > On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 12:28 AM, John Denker wrote: > >> On 11/14/2009 11:36 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: >> >>> I suppose we could use some heuristic such as: >>> >>> 4 character airport code that do not star

Re: [Flightgear-devel] heads up -- effects for models

2009-11-15 Thread John Denker
On 11/15/2009 03:46 AM, Tim Moore wrote: > The critical feature from 1.37 is unordered_map; does > Debian stable have std::tr1::unordered_map (i.e., > /usr/include/c++//unordered_map)? 1) Talking about Debian "stable" is problematic, especially in a discussion that will be archived. The cu

Re: [Flightgear-devel] International Runway Issue (leading zeros)

2009-11-15 Thread John Denker
On 11/15/2009 04:11 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > John Denker wrote: > >> If anybody is interested, I can provide a file "apt-state.dat" >> that non-heuristically specifies which airports are in the >> US -- and even specifies which state. This would lower the

[Flightgear-devel] International Runway Issue (leading zeros)

2009-11-14 Thread John Denker
On 11/14/2009 11:36 AM, Curtis Olson wrote: > I suppose we could use some heuristic such as: > > 4 character airport code that do not start with "K" or "P" use a leading > zero, and all other airports omit the leading zero? We could setup the code > logic to be extensible if we find other countr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] festival ... or not

2009-11-13 Thread John Denker
On 11/11/2009 03:49 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > Could you put together some text I could add to The Manual please? Here is a start, based on my still-very-limited understanding of the situation: 0) The following two files should be distributed with FG: cat atis.scm (SayText "temperature o

[Flightgear-devel] dubious code in options.cxx

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
Hi Folks -- The following snippet of code caught my eye: // If the string is too large to fit on the screen, // then split it up in several pieces. while ( t_str.size() > 47 ) { unsigned int m

[Flightgear-devel] view quats one per line

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
> On 11/11/2009 07:10 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: >> John Denker wrote: >>> Having used the feature both ways, I remain of the opinion >>> that the string representation is easier for the user to >>> interpret. Doing this safely via a few static char*s is >>

Re: [Flightgear-devel] festival ... or not

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
On 11/11/2009 03:49 PM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I may be missing something, but I haven't had any problems getting > festival to work on Ubuntu, other than extracting the files in the correct > place. > I don't have a /etc/festival.scm file. > > Is this specific to some sound driver? I'm prett

Re: [Flightgear-devel] error: no matching function for call to ‘FGFX::set_velocity(SGVec3d&) ’

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
On 11/11/2009 03:00 PM, Tim Moore wrote: > Try it again. My pushes to the flightgear and simgear repos got a bit out of > sync. All better now. Thanks. -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports

[Flightgear-devel] error: no matching function for call to ‘FGFX::set_velocity(SGVec3d&) ’

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
The current "next" branch won't compile chez moi. make[2]: Entering directory `.../fgs/src/Model' g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I../../src/Include -I../.. -I../../src -I/games/orig/usr/include -I/usr/local/include -Wl,-rpath=/games/orig/usr/lib64 -I/games/orig/usr -D_REENTRANT -MT acmodel.o -MD -M

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main viewmgr.cxx, 1.42, 1.43 viewmgr.hxx, 1.19, 1.20

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
On 11/11/2009 07:10 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: > John Denker wrote: >> Having used the feature both ways, I remain of the opinion >> that the string representation is easier for the user to >> interpret. Doing this safely via a few static char*s is >> easy to do. Let me wo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Main viewmgr.cxx, 1.42, 1.43 viewmgr.hxx, 1.19, 1.20

2009-11-11 Thread John Denker
On 11/10/2009 06:36 PM, Csaba Halász wrote: > On 5 Nov 2009, at 09:18, Erik Hofman wrote: > >> John Denker: >> Add a view debugging functions and represent the viewer quats in the >> property tree for debugging. > > Unfortunately the debug code is broken and ca

Re: [Flightgear-devel] festival ... or not

2009-11-10 Thread John Denker
On 11/09/2009 02:37 PM, Anders Gidenstam wrote in part: > and...@sleipner:~$ cat ~/.alsoftrc > format = AL_FORMAT_STEREO16 > cf_level = 2 > drivers = alsa > [alsa] # ALSA backend stuff > device = plug:dmix > capture = plug:dsnoop That helps! Thanks. > 2. I don't remeber if I had to touch the

[Flightgear-devel] festsival ... or not

2009-11-09 Thread John Denker
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009, Iwrote: >> 2) There is a documented interface to the Festival >> TTS system. Alas, the preponderance of the evidence >> indicates this has not worked in several years. On 09/19/2009 01:23 PM, Anders Gidenstam replied: > > Using Festival from FlightGear works very well fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Call for Help (SoundSystem listener orientation)

2009-11-07 Thread John Denker
I wrote: >> I'm gradually figuring out a little bit of what the viewer >> code is doing. >> >> In particular: As for the basic "cockpit lookfrom" view, >> the viewer.cxx "reference frame" for attitudes is as follows: >> >> Suppose you are over the Gulf of Guinea, at (lat,lon) = (0,0). >> The

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quats from (lat,lon) to (0,0)

2009-11-05 Thread John Denker
On 11/05/2009 04:11 PM, Erik Hofman wrote: > But I do have a question I have updated the code in fgUpdateSunPos() > using quats and have it properly working at (0,0) lat and lon but not at > other places. I guess I need to multiply by yet another quat.. but which > one? Has anyone any clue? Th

[Flightgear-devel] tone and decorum

2009-11-05 Thread John Denker
On 11/05/2009 11:19 AM, Curtis Olson wrote in part: > Going way overboard with an > over-the-top authoritative style may actually take away from any good points > you are trying to make ... Point taken. By way of pathetic non-excuse, let me remark that a few years ago I was rather authoritati

Re: [Flightgear-devel] aircraft attitude and view orientation

2009-11-05 Thread John Denker
On 11/05/2009 09:13 AM, Tim Moore wrote: > I'm not sure > that this attitude is always that of the user's own aircraft. Point taken. The thing I first called the 12:00 view -- which is sometimes equivalent to the aircraft attitude -- is not always equal to the attitude, certainly not in look-a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Towards release 1.9.2

2009-11-02 Thread John Denker
I am consistently getting the following error message at the end of every FGFS run: > Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-close.c: 719: _dl_close: Assertion > `map->l_init_called' failed! This is with a version freshly pulled from git://gitorious.org/fg/flightgear This has been going on for a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Call for Help (SoundSystem listener orientation)

2009-11-01 Thread John Denker
On 10/18/2009 02:04 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: > I suspect there still is a positioning or orientation problem hiding > somewhere that's causing it. My speed lessons in quaternations don't pay > out just yet I guess. A possibly helpful discussion of rotations can be found at http://www.av8n.com/

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Call for Help (SoundSystem listener orientation)

2009-11-01 Thread John Denker
On 11/01/2009 10:28 AM, Erik Hofman wrote: > At this time I've tried about everything to get the listener orientation > aligned properly. What's needed it converting the ViewOrientation matrix > (quaternation) and/or ViewOrientationOffset matrix (quaternation) to > align with OpenGL and get the

[Flightgear-devel] FYI: kernel patch for X52 joystick/throttle

2009-10-29 Thread John Denker
The Saitek X52 Flight Control System (joystick, throttle, etc.) is rather nice and widely used, except that it has been unusable with all kernels from 2.6.28-15 to the present. This is strictly a kernel bug, not a hardware problem or a plib bug or a FGFS bug ... but it affects people in the FGFS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Realistic GPS position

2009-10-23 Thread John Denker
On 10/23/09 02:40, James Turner wrote: > I want to add > a realistic mode, where the GPS indicated position had some error / > lack of precision. > What do people suggest? Please take a look at this data: http://www.av8n.com/fly/img48/gps-random-walk.png The data looks reasonably rea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Sound System redux

2009-09-22 Thread John Denker
On 09/22/09 08:03, Ron Jensen wrote: > I would like to hear all the cockpit sounds in exterior views because I > am still sitting "in" the cockpit. My rudder pedals are under my feet, > my throttle quadrant is at my knee, and the stick is in my hand. I am > still flying the aircraft so it is imp

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Sound System redux

2009-09-22 Thread John Denker
James Turner wrote: >> I suspect this should be a pref - either the local cockpit sounds are >> associated with the aircraft model (realistic operation) or they are >> associated with the view position (unrealistic but useful if you like >> switching to an outside view but don't want to miss

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Environment atmosphere.cxx, 1.3, 1.4 atmosphere.hxx, 1.3, 1.4 environment.cxx, 1.27, 1.28 environment.hxx, 1.11, 1.12

2009-09-20 Thread John Denker
On 09/20/09 08:52, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > Hi John, > > I just fixed what appeared to me as a bug: > mixing altitude_ft and altitude_m and wrong sign when computing temperature > at > sea level from temperature at altitude. > Can you check and confirm that this is correct and reflects your orig

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Sound System redux

2009-09-19 Thread John Denker
On 09/19/09 06:13, Erik Hofman wrote: > This is a heads up that I'm working on improving the sound system quite > a bit with a few new concepts in mind. That's a good thing to work on. Thanks for the heads-up. Here's one more thing to think about in this context: text to speech. AFAICT the s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] policy versus entrails

2009-09-16 Thread John Denker
On 09/16/09 01:22, James Turner wrote: > My point is, what I'm going to do first, is improve the > *architecture*, so the policy is explicit (and centralised!). Sounds good to me! > Likely > this will include a Nasal interface (to be driven from a GUI dialog / > ATC-controller / whatever)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-09-15 Thread John Denker
On 09/15/09 20:53, Thomas Betka wrote: > Of course the LOC beam width can be adjusted > to accommodate this, to some degree. Not to a sufficient degree if/when the localizer is at the wrong end of the runway. The localizer course width necessarily goes to zero at the antenna. There is no wa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-09-15 Thread John Denker
On 09/15/09 20:17, I wrote: > Of the 3050 ILSs in section four of my copy of nav.dat, > 404 of them, i.e. more than 13% of them, are reversible. FWIW if we restrict attention to US airports, i.e. having ICAO identifiers of the form K..., then 276 of the ILSs are reversible i.e. more than 23% of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS (was: nontrivial external situations)

2009-09-15 Thread John Denker
Hi Folks -- Of the 3050 ILSs in section four of my copy of nav.dat, 404 of them, i.e. more than 13% of them, are reversible. That's 202 pairs, if you want to count by pairs. -- In all such pairs, both ends use the same frequency. -- In all such pairs, the two ends have different IDENT codes.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS (was: Glideslope bugs/improvements)

2009-09-15 Thread John Denker
On 09/15/09 06:31, Curtis Olson wrote: > I believe the original intent was to make the system function in away that > made it appear that whatever approach you were trying to fly was the one > that was turned on. We agree that was the original intent. However it was doomed from the start, becau

[Flightgear-devel] nontrivial external situations (was: Glideslope bugs/improvements)

2009-09-15 Thread John Denker
On 09/15/09 03:25, James Turner wrote: >> I suspect penaltyForNav is broken, probably by me - so that's where I >> shall look next. > This is 'fixed' now Thanks. > - except it's not. > penaltyForNav is basically broken - we all know it's broken > conceptually, but it's also broken in prac

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Glideslope bugs/improvements

2009-09-14 Thread John Denker
On 09/14/09 02:38, James Turner wrote: > Two (unrelated) glideslope things: > > 1) I tested making the has-gs property be based upon the GS range > check (leaving aside any discussion of how GS reception range should > be calculated). This is good, because existing panels generally use > has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Environment atmosphere.cxx, 1.3, 1.4 atmosphere.hxx, 1.3, 1.4 environment.cxx, 1.27, 1.28 environment.hxx, 1.11, 1.12

2009-09-13 Thread John Denker
On 09/13/09 19:22, Ron Jensen wrote: > 639 : timoore 1.28 if (elevation_ft >= ISA_def[1].height) { > 640 : SG_LOG(SG_GENERAL, SG_ALERT, "recalc_sl_temperature: " > 641 : << "valid only in troposphere, not " << elevation_ft); > 642 : return; > > > Quick question. The old code would

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Instrumentation navradio.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 navradio.hxx, 1.23, 1.24

2009-09-12 Thread John Denker
On 09/12/09 10:08, James Turner wrote: > I was wondering if we should increase the GS range cutoff to 1.2 * > range-fom-nav.dat (or 1.4, or 1.8, or 2.0 ... essentially give a > margin of reception beyond the published limit) > > I guess it depends what the nav.dat value should be taken as :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Fwd: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: source/src/Instrumentation navradio.cxx, 1.43, 1.44 navradio.hxx, 1.23, 1.24

2009-09-12 Thread John Denker
On 09/12/09 08:17, Torsten Dreyer wrote: > The glideslope updates are abruptly terminated at the configured range. This > does not match my experience. The configured range for the ILS at my home > base is 10NM as in nav.dat. This is within the standard instrument approach > procedure, so I don

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sport-model nav-radio (was Re: GS sensitivity)

2009-09-11 Thread John Denker
On 09/11/09 06:48, dave perry wrote: > I have not flown the patch yet. In this patch, does the region of > reliable signal satisfy Figure 1-1-6 on page 503 of the 2008 AIM? That > figure shows valid signals for two over lapped archs. Arch 1: +\-35 deg > out to 10 nm. Arch 2: +\- 10 deg out

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