Hi,
Second thought - would it be possible to setup a 'moderation' team to
monitor the chat on the server in (semi) regular intervals? i could
imagine if there were a bridge between the servers and irc that you
would get a few people volunteering to join.
say this bridge merely bridges chat,
Would it be possible to start logging and saving (and publishing) MP
messages somewhere so a person with a grievance would have some hard
evidence to show what happened. Right now when push comes to shove,
we are
in a he said/she said situation. But if we logged every message
+ call
just a small idea:
why can't we use the flightgear phpbb forum accounts ?
we already have a table containing users/emails/md5 passwords. the server
could check for an user/password against this table (ok, not with a direct
connection to the mysql db, but calling an ad-hoc php page that verifies
As a guy who gets insulted about every second day while trying to
enforce proper ATC onto everybody approaching EDDF I surely would
support a system which could solve that problem - if I just had the
slightest idea how to overcome the following questions:
# How can we avoid that somebody (who
Curtis Olson wrote:
Another thought. I know it would be a huge effort to setup a system with
user id's and passwords, self registration, [...]
^
To be honest, I'd expect those who deliberately are being rude will
just create a new account after
It would not be dissimilar from the forum, or the wiki or any other CMS.
All those systems need to deal with user management and authentication, and
as soon as the flightgear MP starts ruling the world, we'll probably see
spambots too. Once we start attracting spammers then do we still consider
That stuff is unnecessary and in
real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using
foul language on the radio.
Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a
pretty good deterrent :).
When I had my first engine failure in RL, I remember not
of)/.
Mally
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From: Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers
It would not be dissimilar
On 10/20/2010 7:39 AM, Curtis Olson wrote:
It would not be dissimilar from the forum, or the wiki or any other
CMS. All those systems need to deal with user management and
authentication, and as soon as the flightgear MP starts ruling the
world, we'll probably see spambots too. Once we
Hi all,
L Francesco wrote:
why can't we use the flightgear phpbb forum accounts ?
we already have a table containing users/emails/md5 passwords. the server
could check for an user/password against this
table (ok, not with a direct connection to the mysql db, but calling an
ad-hoc php
Gene Buckle wrote:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote:
Oh dear ...
http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary
I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up
with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete
novice ...
A filter
On Wednesday 20 October 2010 18:57:05 Nathanael Rebsch wrote:
Implementing such a filter on the client side will open your eyes to the
pitfalls of that quite quickly - i'll just compile fg myself, and apply
a patch which disables such a filter - now what you want to do?
security by (client
Stefan Seifert wrote:
On Wednesday 20 October 2010 18:57:05 Nathanael Rebsch wrote:
Implementing such a filter on the client side will open your eyes to the
pitfalls of that quite quickly - i'll just compile fg myself, and apply
a patch which disables such a filter - now what you want to
-Stuart
On 20 Oct 2010, at 18:10, Nathanael Rebsch nathan...@dihedral.de wrote:
Stefan Seifert wrote:
On Wednesday 20 October 2010 18:57:05 Nathanael Rebsch wrote:
Implementing such a filter on the client side will open your eyes to the
pitfalls of that quite quickly - i'll just
On 20 Oct 2010, at 18:10, Nathanael Rebsch wrote:
In that case you bandwidth payload for no good reason.
No worse than at present. As I said earlier, I would also put a filter on the
sender to filter the casual profanity and make our expected standard of
behaviour clear.
IMO a filter is a
Stuart Buchanan wrote:
On 20 Oct 2010, at 18:10, Nathanael Rebsch wrote:
In that case you bandwidth payload for no good reason.
No worse than at present. As I said earlier, I would also put a filter on the
sender to filter the casual profanity and make our expected standard of
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
On 20 Oct 2010, at 18:10, Nathanael Rebsch wrote:
In that case you bandwidth payload for no good reason.
No worse than at present. As I said earlier, I would also put a filter on the
sender to filter the casual profanity and make our expected
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 21:02 +, Martin Spott wrote:
Curtis Olson wrote:
Would it be bad if a user had a choice between the open free for all we
currently have and a more constrained and managed system (that someone has
taken the time to build and continues to manage.)
No, offering
Scott Hamilton wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 21:02 +, Martin Spott wrote:
Whenever/whatever people are going to do about adding authentication
support to MP servers, if they'd consider adding an interface which is
capable of talking to an LDAP directory service (inetOrgPerson LDAP
Object
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 22:21 +, Martin Spott wrote:
Scott Hamilton wrote:
On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 21:02 +, Martin Spott wrote:
Whenever/whatever people are going to do about adding authentication
support to MP servers, if they'd consider adding an interface which is
capable of
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own
business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: Where can I
find the Nimitz?. In only good intent, I replied: Look around the Golden
Gate Bridge,
Oh dear ...
http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary
I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up
with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete
novice ...
Could we also filter at the MP server level? It might be nice to filter at
the sending
That stuff is unnecessary and in
real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using
foul language on the radio.
Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a
pretty good deterrent :).
On 10/19/2010 7:56 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own
business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: Where can I
find the Nimitz?. In only good
with an
automated system of blocking and control?
Mally
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From: syd adams adams@gmail.com
To: FlightGear developers discussions
flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Ridding Multiplayer of Abusers
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Reagan Thomas thomas...@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/19/2010 7:56 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote:
On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 5:01 AM, Jack Mermod wrote:
Hi Everybody,
I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own
business, when another pilot asked
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote:
Oh dear ...
http://www.noswearing.com/dictionary
I was going to say that we could probably do a pretty good job at coming up
with a list ourselves, then I saw this site and realized I'm a complete
novice ...
A filter like this belongs in the client
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:25 AM, syd adams adams@gmail.com wrote:
That stuff is unnecessary and in
real life you'd probably get your license yanked if you were caught using
foul language on the radio.
Here, in Canada , its a $5000 fine and/or a year in jail.That,s a
pretty good
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
A filter like this belongs in the client machine, not the server.
It's not the job of a multi-player server to provide nanny services. If
the end user doesn't want to see adult language, they're welcome to enable
whatever filtering that
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 16:41:35 Mally wrote:
?Forgive my ignorance, but what happens at the moment? Does nobody say
anything to the abusers? Doesn't peer pressure, good example and setting
guidelines present a more realistic solution (realistic by comparison with
what happens in real world
On Tue, 19 Oct 2010, Curtis Olson wrote:
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Gene Buckle wrote:
A filter like this belongs in the client machine, not the server.
It's not the job of a multi-player server to provide nanny services. If
the end user doesn't want to see adult language, they're
Promoting the concept of free market place of ideas here:
The multiplayer server source is open and anyone can setup their own server.
Sure the MP system is only fun when there are lots of people participating
...
But if someone wants to have their own private free for all and express any
A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as
jackmermod in the FG forums:
I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up
on the attackers 6 o'clock in my F-14 and firing upon him with over 20
Aim-9's in hopes of causing him to lag. Luckily I caused
Stefan Seifert wrote:
Very sensible words. Technical solutions usually don't work for social
problems.
Exactly this is the point, and I'd like to add that the social problem
we're currently looking at might be manifold
Cheers,
Martin.
--
Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just
Instead of trying to put together a list, you should watch a video of George
Carlin's Seven dirty words.
Censorship is not the solution to this kind of problem.
It is just too easy to come up with a way to be offensive, or to threaten
someone. If you decide to censor, then YOU take the
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 18:51:37 Martin Spott wrote:
Stefan Seifert wrote:
Very sensible words. Technical solutions usually don't work for social
problems.
Exactly this is the point, and I'd like to add that the social problem
we're currently looking at might be manifold
But I'd
Gary Neely wrote
A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as
jackmermod in the FG forums:
I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up
on the attackers 6 o'clock in my F-14 and firing upon him with over 20
Aim-9's in hopes of causing him
Hal V. Engel wrote
On Tuesday, October 19, 2010 02:15:08 pm Vivian Meazza wrote:
Gary Neely wrote
A few additional details can be found by reading the relevant post as
jackmermod in the FG forums:
I experienced a horrible attack over mp today. I ended up flying up
on the
One account per IP address is not a good idea, because it is very well
possible for several independent people to use the same public IP
address. In IPv4 at least with NAT routers. I can think of examples in
student homes with a shared broadband connection. Or the clubhouse of
the flying club.
Hi Everybody,
I recently was on Multiplayer, flying with a friend, minding my own
business, when another pilot asked a general newbie question: Where
can I find the Nimitz?. In only good intent, I replied: Look around
the Golden Gate Bridge, you'll find it eventually. The pilot then
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