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for perhaps a Parts copyright... notice).
It is a convenience to our users that we download such files
transparently from another source on installation.
But if you have something more concrete in mind, please feel free ask
more concrete WebStart questions.
Thanks Arnd.
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for user-defined fonts? Looks as
though I'll have to look at user fonts.
Peter
Peter B. West wrote:
Jeremias et al,
I would like ti use the Unicode Character Database as a source for names
of characters. At the moment, ...fonts.Glyphs contains a static table
of String pairs containing the Unicode
at the moment, with minor changes
made.
Revision ChangesPath
1.17 +19 -37xml-fop/src/java/org/apache/fop/apps/CommandLineOptions.java
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is derived from Adobe's methods for PDF and PS?
If that is the case (a big if) might we not be better to move to a more
generic form, with translation into each particular form of font
specification?
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this?
Peter
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.
From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Noel. Mailbox full of garbage, no doubt. Thank you Bill. I
shall re-subscribe. Do we have a moderator?
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Is it possible that my messages to fop-dev are being black-holed?
They are pending a moderator. You
and
check this.
Peter
Glen Mazza wrote:
I think it's just setLevel() that you're looking for:
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/logging/api/org/apache/commons/logging/impl/SimpleLog.html
Peter B. West wrote:
I see that you have the move to commons-logging. I was encouraged by
this because
be able to call the native setLevel() of the 1.4
logger:
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api/java/util/logging/Logger.html#setLevel(java.util.logging.Level)
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There is a release candidate for commons-logging v1.4, which includes
support for Lumberjack logging, i.e., Java1.4 style logging for 1.3
environments.
Peter
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+1
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, for command-line usage,
this may be another story.)
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:
Also while you've been gone:
-- Joerg and Chris are on vacation. -- Simon is currently running for
committer [2]--bitte wählen!!! (hmmm...or is it the *Austrians* that
speak German? I keeping getting the two mixed up... ;)
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.
Is this what you mean by on-the-fly font discovery and font aliases?
Peter
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John Austin wrote:
On Mon, 2004-04-12 at 04:33, Peter B. West wrote:
Glen,
I put in a vote for Simon. The language thing is confusing, I know.
There have been occasions on which the Austrian flag has been flown, or
the Austrian National Anthem been played, somewhat inappropriately. But
it's
to have a fixed relationship to the Central.
Does the baseline discussion in the Rec have any echo in FOP? Are
baseline tables implemented?
Mind you, I don't yet know whether the baseline constants from Java are
actually used anywhere.
Peter
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Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 13.04.2004 14:47:02 Peter B. West wrote:
My reading of the Javadocs for both 1.4.2 and 1.3.1 has turned up some
interesting questions. Since 1.3.1 (at least), java.awt.Font has
defined constants for CENTER_BASELINE, HANGING_BASELINE and
ROMAN_BASELINE
?
Peter
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rather than some others on its current agenda.
Peter
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contexts here.
You might want to clarify this part of the discussion with Victor.
Peter
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and could be used to show the quality
of the output. I have tested it with text-only blocks, so I don't know
what could happen in more complex situations.
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very closely, so could
be wrong about this. Im sure Glen will interject and correct me on this
if I'm wrong.
I do get burned when the work on properties is mentioned without any
acknowledgment of the influence that alt-design has had on HEAD's
properties development.
Peter
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maintained. It's been a while since I was involved in the discussions
about Forrest and FOP, primarily around using Javascript in pages. I'll
read the docs docs again.
Peter
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Do any of the list denizens have experience with Java font handling and
2D text layout? I'm new to it, and would like to be able to bounce
questions off someone further up the food chain, on or off-line.
Peter
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Clay Leeds wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Shorthands have been fully handled in alt-design's properties for
about 18 months now.
Glad to hear it! One of these days, I'll have to build alt.design from
source so I can see all of your hard work. I notice that it uses a
non-ant system of building, so
handler/registry?
I'll try attaching the Javadoc description from
org.apache.fop.render.awt.Fonts, as the included HTML may cause problems
otherwise.
Peter
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Java font selection is based on family names. It seems that Java
handles font
Glen Mazza wrote:
(Far from being an expert on fonts, but commenting anyway... ;)
Peter B. West wrote:
I have read again the Wiki page on the font subsystem in the light of
my current work with Java fonts. I'm afraid that I am still convinced
that font handling is properly the preserve
Glen Mazza wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
I wrote:
The latter is outside my scope of knowledge (but sounds messy ;)--as
for the former, what font-specific methods (and their signatures) do
you see us needing to add to our render.Render interface (which
declares the minimal methods needed
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
...
What I'm exploring is the possibility of going in the
opposite direction. That is, using the Interfaces and
Classes of java text layout as a model for FOP layout, even
if the implementation is FOP specific. That way, when the
Java model
always a good idea to tag the tree immediately
before a branch.
Peter
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Chris Bowditch wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
snip/
Simon, yes! That's what branching is there for. People seem to be
afraid of it, but it is an enormously useful tool for just such
situations. I think it's always a good idea to tag the tree
immediately before a branch.
Hi Peter,
its
in quotes, either double or single, are passed as a
single argument to the shell script. I'm not sure about Win CMD
systems, but I believe that they do the same thing.
Peter
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Andreas L. Delmelle wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Peter,
Arguments enclosed in quotes, either double or single, are passed as a
single argument to the shell script. I'm not sure about Win CMD
systems, but I believe that they do the same thing
Clay Leeds wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Shorthands have been fully handled in alt-design's properties for
about 18 months now.
Not true. How quickly we forget! The nasty ones are, notably font and
border, but I just (re-)discovered that xml:lang wasn't, and I have
implemented it.
Peter
Oleg (or others who might be able to answer yes),
Have you any experience with the use of recent Java versions for
handling Hebrew text? I'd like to get the benefit of your knowledge if so.
Peter
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way of
having such cross-referenced html sources generated as part of the
process of web site creation?
Peter
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Clay Leeds wrote:
On Jun 8, 2004, at 6:48 PM, Peter B. West wrote:
The problem is that there was no clean way to automatically generate
the htmlized source. It's that supplementary facility that I'm
looking for.
OK. I'll see what I can dig up on the subject. If you have any other
keywords
already know), but
according to Reuters[1], the CVS system has some fairly significant
holes. I know Forrest moved to SVN not too long ago. Have we thought of
doing it ourselves?
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modern
infrastructure and standard based protocols do allow for levels of
integration
previously hard to attain.
Thanks,
Dw,
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could be used with the structure
renderers. With the current approach to RTF, it seems to me that a
number of sacrifices have to be made. The FO input cannot be fully
realised with a complete resolution of the properties, which in turn
relies on layout. (Old argument, I know.)
Peter
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Glen Mazza wrote:
--- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obviously, I would love to be able to output
alt-design's layout to PDF
without having to build a new interface mechanism.
I think you have that already in the render.Renderer
interface--which defines those methods that a Renderer
and then seeing which is best.
I don't see that happening, as I mentioned in my post. I was just
excited by the notion of the SVG Generator, and wanted to rattle on a
bit about it.
Peter
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is that I
think it is the best way to go.
Peter
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Fopfellows,
I will be offline for the next week. I'm marrying Jenni tomorrow, and
honeymooning in the frozen south of the South Island of New Zealand for
a week. I'll post some photos to my web site when I get back.
Peter
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Glen,
Jenni thinks she likes you.
Peter
Glen Mazza wrote:
Warmest Congratulations!!! (Can she program?!? ;)
Glen
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Thank you all for your best wishes. Anyone who is still awake can check
the weather in Brisbane at http://www.qtcu.asn.au/webcam/
Talk to you all in a week or so.
Peter
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is probably the following discussion of the
general principles, and their application to validation, with a nice
instance of the effects of this validation in the case of
simple-page-master.
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=103785986329929w=4
Peter
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Chris,
It was wonderful, thank you. Drive-by tourism of the highest order.
When I have some photos of the wedding and the tour I will post them.
Peter
Chris Bowditch wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Hi Peter - did you have a good honeymoon?
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From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jeremias,
Thanks for the work on such thankless tasks as this, and thanks for the
nomination. I have expressed some scepticism about the direction the
Board is taking with TLPs, but it doesn't hurt to have
Peter B. West wrote:
Formally, my votes for membership of the XML Graphics PMC are:
Joerg Pietschmann +1
Glen Mazza+1
Jeremias Maerki +1 (conditional on his acceptance of nomination)
Peter
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
Hi everyone,
4. I propose both Vincent Hardy and Thomas DeWeese from
assume the vote on members will still be
valid when we get to putting a proposal forward, and voting on the
acceptance of the charter. If not, we can ask for it again.
Peter
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Bertrand,
I just noticed that you are heading to Australia, including Brisbane.
Please get in touch when you are here. 0402 991 747 is my mobile number.
If possible, let me know when you are arriving.
Peter
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format and pass the result back to FOP.
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, it works.
How do I fix this?
Peter
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.
It might be of interest to someone at a later stage to look at extending
the standard doclet to utilise Javasrc to perform that generation.
Peter
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://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=108680587917268w=2
[2]
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=fop-devm=108844739724995w=2
Peter
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Jeremias Maerki wrote:
So let's vote on the PMC chair for the XML Graphics project. We have two
nominated candidates:
[ ] I vote for Peter B. West as PMC chair.
[ ] I vote for Jeremias Maerki as PMC chair.
Simple majority will decide. If we get a draw we'll figure something out.
I'm abstaining
gather is not functioning anyway.)
While we're at it, what about moving Fop to org.apache.fop?
Peter
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of one
important point is correct. Why does FOP process in minimum units of a
page-sequence?
Peter
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interest in the factoring out of the graphics components.
Peter
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Glen,
I'm pleased that you think so, bit I believe it was the best course for
me at the moment.
Peter
Glen Mazza wrote:
An unfortunate decision.
Glen
--- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fopsters,
I have been discussing with Jeremias offline the
appropriateness or
otherwise of my being
it *might* help me and others understand why you've made this
decision (then again, it might not--we might still think it's an
unfortunate decision... ;-)).
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Is anyone else getting double cvs commit messages? I assume I am
subscribed under more than one address, but my guess at what the
redundant address might be has proved fruitless.
Peter
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address is 'extra'.
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Glen Mazza wrote:
--- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeremias' ideas about factoring out useful
stand-alone elements from the
combination of FOP and Batik are essential to the
direction I am taking
with layout and rendering, aside from being a Good
Thing in their own
right.
Yes, I've
will need to have an
emacs or xemacs binary available to the build process. Forrestdoc looks
the far better option.
Peter
Clay Leeds wrote:
Peter,
On Jun 29, 2004, at 7:04 PM, Peter B. West wrote:
Clay,
FYI, Java 1.4 javadoc tool supports a -linksource argument, which
generates html of source
provide such
functionality? Is this still the case?
Peter
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is
available from my web site,
http://www.leverkruid.nl/FOP/hyphenation.html. It is also contained in
the package file.
Regards, Simon
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Don't mind the delay. Too many email addresses in a futile attempt to
keep one spam-clean. Apologies to Christian.
Original Message
Subject: Re: Performance improvement in property consumption.
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:29:24 +1000
From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED
Original Message
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Performance improvement in property consumption.]
Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2004 18:30:39 +1000
From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finn Bock wrote:
[Peter]
Alt-design just
Peter B. West wrote:
Finn Bock wrote:
[Peter]
Alt-design just uses a sparse array, constructed at END_ELEMENT. Space
savings are progressively realized as the depth of the FO Tree reduces.
Maximum consumption occurs at the points of greatest depth of the
tree, minima at the end of each page
the ability to parse the encrypted portion of
the font, whether in binary or ASCII hexadecimal.
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?
http://defoe.sourceforge.net/
regards,
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Fopsters,
While I haven't wanted to make a fuss about it at this stage, given
Finn's question, I guess it's time to let you guys (and Karen ?)
formally know that I am in the process of setting up project Defoe on
SourceForge. http://defoe.sourceforge.net/
It's alt-design under another name,
Fops,
I originally thought I was replying to an offline message here. Hence
the unusual tone.
Peter
Peter B. West wrote:
Finn,
No, it hasn't been made yet.
...
Finn Bock wrote:
Hi Peter,
Did I miss the announcement?
http://defoe.sourceforge.net/
regards,
finn
I'll second that.
Peter
Berin Lautenbach wrote:
Woo-Hoo!!
Congratulations to all, but particularly Brian and Jeremias - a huge
effort!
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Clay,
Thanks for the comments. I would be interested to see the alt-design
doco running under the new Forrest regime before it is removed, because
I would like to take advantage of your hard work in coming to terms with
Forrest. It was difficult to get the documentation working in the
Clay Leeds wrote:
Unfortunately, I still have a few problems (see [1]), including a
rather gaping hole in the FOP Compliance page (it doesn't show *any*
content--d'oh!). I'm also working on some problems with various
problems in the alt.design portion of the web site. The problems are
most
Thanks Clay. Please disregard deeply unworthy comment on a previous
message.
Peter
Clay Leeds wrote:
I'd be happy to help out! Of course, since it appears to be moving
anyway, it might be easier for me to move your documentation to a new
forrest install and go from there. Either way, I'm happy
Victor,
Thank you for the compliments. It's interesting to see the development
of a multiple approaches, and the strength with which differing views
are held.
I've started a blog as a diary of Defoe development and, at the moment,
my learning experiences with Java 5.0, especially Typesafe
to users, so I
expect to see more of it.
Peter
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Andreas L. Delmelle wrote:
All right, all right, maybe I'll just 'agree to disagree' in this case ;-)
--mind you, *not* WRT to Exceptions, though... I declined to further the
debate, but I'd much rather see GM read Sun's APIDoc for
java.lang.Throwable --makes sense, no? Enough, maybe, to convince
Victor Mote wrote:
Finn Bock wrote:
Do you mean that the 3 different processors should ideally
report the same validation errors in the same manner? That
can only happen after someone standardize a SAFO API (Simple
API for FO parsing). Until then all implementation will throw
different
The Web Maestro wrote:
BTW -- thanks *very* much for taking care of the alt-design tab, I
greatly appreciate the effort in simplifying our site.
Glad to be of service. If there are other things which anyone thinks can
improve the site (e.g. consolidating pages, removing
Congratulations Jeremias. Well deserved.
Peter
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Hi FOP people,
I have the great pleasure to announce that Jeremias Maerki has been
elected as an ASF member at the last member's meeting during ApacheCon.
I'm sure you will agree that this is well deserved, given all the
Victor Mote wrote:
Simon Pepping wrote:
Both markers are printed in blue. Perhaps it would be a
solution to clone the subtree below the marker to
retrieve-marker, and rebind that copy. That would be another
example of layout dependent data in the FO tree. If every
There is a certain wry
Glen Mazza wrote:
Oh, I'm sorry, it involves
re-thinking the building of the FO tree, using stream parsing.
Peter, are you saying that a pull parser is more computationally powerful
than a SAX Parser--or is it just much more convenient? I don't think pull
parsers can do more than SAX Parsers
Finn Bock wrote:
The loop can be stopped when we temporary run out of FO tree nodes
and restarted again when new nodes has been added. I suppose that the
FO tree can then be viewed as a stream of FO nodes.
[Peter]
I suppose so. And I suppose that making layout event-driven would
better fit in
Finn Bock wrote:
The loop can be stopped when we temporary run out of FO tree nodes
and restarted again when new nodes has been added. I suppose that the
FO tree can then be viewed as a stream of FO nodes.
[Victor]
This model probably works fine if you never need to look ahead, but there
are
Victor Mote wrote:
Finn Bock wrote:
The loop can be stopped when we temporary run out of FO tree
nodes and restarted again when new nodes has been added. I
suppose that the FO tree can then be viewed as a stream of FO nodes.
This model probably works fine if you never need to look ahead, but
Finn Bock wrote:
...
The problem with Keirons layout code (with respect to large input files)
is that it works top-down on the LM tree and thus require the creating
of the complete LM tree for the page sequence. To better fit within SAX
event model the layout process should also be event
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Le 23 dc. 04, 20:56, Glen Mazza a crit :
...(OK, think I got everybody... ;-)
Thanks Glen...actually to go the full i18n route, here's a special one
for Jeremias:
Jni wnachte!
and Peter:
Merry Christmas Mate! I reckon!
Merry Christmas all. Happy Summer
Jeremias or Thomas in particular, help!
I'm having trouble working out the relationships between the various
parts of Java2D, especially as regards the bits named above. At the end
of the day, the Graphics2D-GraphicsDevice combination is central to the
2D rendering process.
One instantiates a
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
(not a real specialist in this area but...)
On 26.12.2004 02:13:46 Peter B. West wrote:
snip/
...
What puzzles me is the circularity of requiring a BufferedImage, with
its implicit dependency upon getLocalGraphicsEnvironment(), which seems
to be the only way to directly
Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 28.12.2004 02:26:51 Peter B. West wrote:
snip/
Did you find the reference to java.awt.graphicsenv in PJA?
Just downloaded PJA. There's no reference in PJA other than in the
javadocs for PJABufferedImage and PJAGraphicsEnvironment. Seems like the
developer has to make
Greetings from the future. Happy New Year. Welcome to 2005.
Peter
Glen Mazza wrote:
2005? Oooh--what's it like?--is everyone going around
in space ships? ;)
Glen (7 1/2 hours more to go)
--- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings from the future. Happy New Year. Welcome
to 2005.
Peter
Fine, warm, scattered cloud. No visible spaceships. Pretty
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