I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
then registering it with adobe so as to get the
upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
registered to someone else. How can I
I recall recent posts on this subject. Specifically
about buying an old version of frame from Ebay, and
then registering it with adobe so as to get the
upgrade price for the latest version. Apparently, part
of the problem is to be sure the copy is not already
registered to someone else. How can I
UniMerge is the solution. You create a report template
in FrameMaker describing how each type of database
record is to be processed and formatted, save it as a
MIF file, and execute it on the database output. The
result is fully-formatted, ready-to print output. The
rport templated can include FM
UniMerge is the solution. You create a report template
in FrameMaker describing how each type of database
record is to be processed and formatted, save it as a
MIF file, and execute it on the database output. The
result is fully-formatted, ready-to print output. The
rport templated can include FM
The fundamental issue is Return on Investment (ROI),
whether the staff is one writer or 100. Here are the
major cost factors that must be evaluated:
A Realizable positive values of a structured solution.
1. A breakdown of the identifiable costs of the
current unstructured methodology which can
The fundamental issue is Return on Investment (ROI),
whether the staff is one writer or 100. Here are the
major cost factors that must be evaluated:
A Realizable positive values of a structured solution.
1. A breakdown of the identifiable costs of the
current unstructured methodology which can
--- Mike Wickham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used
to work together. Now,
only one or the other works. Is anyone else
seeing this?
Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8
on Windows XP.
Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature
--- Mike Wickham wrote:
> >> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used
> to work together. Now,
> >> only one or the other works. Is anyone else
> seeing this?
>
> > Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8
> on Windows XP.
>
> Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is
--- Mike Wickham wrote:
> >> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used
> to work together. Now,
> >> only one or the other works. Is anyone else
> seeing this?
>
> > Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8
> on Windows XP.
>
> Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is
> Eli,
> You wrote:
> >I'd like to create a table format for a note, with
> one row and two columns.
> >I want a line above and below the second column.
> I've only managed to do
> >this using custom ruling and shading, which I don't
> want to use because
> >custom ruling can't be stored as part
--- Mark Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
My job involves producing 40 page reports in
Microsoft Word. These
reports are nearly identical. I use the mailmerge
feature in Word to
import variables such as the date of the report, the
name of the product
on which the report is based, the
As I understand what you are stating, each book
component will store the value of the book file title
attribute value which existed the last time the
generate/update action was taken on the book file.
Thus, if the value of the attribute in the book file
is changed but the generate/update action is
--- Mark Lawrence
wrote:
> My job involves producing 40 page reports in
> Microsoft Word. These
> reports are nearly identical. I use the mailmerge
> feature in Word to
> import variables such as the date of the report, the
> name of the product
> on which the report is based, the final score
> At 10:28 -0400 24/5/07, Rick Quatro wrote:
> >I am trying to figure out how attribute-based
> Running H/F variables work. Here is are examples of
> a couple in a document I have:
> >
> ><$attribute[Booktitle:book]>
> ><$attribute[Revision:book]>
=
I may be missing
As I understand what you are stating, each book
component will store the value of the book file title
attribute value which existed the last time the
generate/update action was taken on the book file.
Thus, if the value of the attribute in the book file
is changed but the generate/update action is
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As far as a device that you can comfortably and
safely use in the tub is
concerned, I don't think that paper will be the
delivery method of the
future.
Its estimated that 40% of the US adult population is
non-literate, which means they
--- mcarr at allette.com.au wrote:
> As far as a device that you can comfortably and
> safely use in the tub is
> concerned, I don't think that paper will be the
> delivery method of the
> future.
It?s estimated that 40% of the US adult population is
non-literate, which
--- Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD.
Basically, I am allowing
nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that
will allow a particular
format to be called, depending on the nesting level.
Here is an example of
flat structure. The text
--- Rick Quatro wrote:
> I need help with text formatting rules in an EDD.
> Basically, I am allowing
> nesting of ol and ul elements. I need rules that
> will allow a particular
> format to be called, depending on the nesting level.
> Here is an example of
> "flat" structure. The text in the
--- Bob Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output
doc (from a structured
Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily
make mark ups on the
hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their
stuff into the frame
books. (We like it this way -
--- Bob Williams
wrote:
> Wondering HOW to simply double-space my PDF output
> doc (from a structured
> Frame book) - so that our writers can more easily
> make mark ups on the
> hardcopy. They write - we production wonks put their
> stuff into the frame
> books. (We like it this way - less
--- John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am thinking of something along the lines of output
pages per writer. I appreciate any help.
===
Using an ROI estimate to justify changing over to a
structured approach is definitely the right way to go.
But coming up
--- John Sgammato wrote:
> I am thinking of something along the lines of output
> pages per writer. I appreciate any help.
===
Using an ROI estimate to justify changing over to a
structured approach is definitely the right way to go.
But coming up with a number is
--- Eli Har-Even [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Our FrameMaker templates have two sets of numbered
lists, one set for steps (step1, step2, step3) and
another for lists (and list1, list2, list3).
Visually, steps and lists look different, but in
practice, authors use them interchangeably. I'm
--- Eli Har-Even wrote:
> Our FrameMaker templates have two sets of numbered
> lists, one set for steps (step1, step2, step3) and
another for lists (and list1, list2, list3).
> Visually, steps and lists look different, but in
> practice, authors use them interchangeably. I'm
considering
--- Nantel, Elise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm working with Structured FM 7.0 on Windows XP.
I use a lot of variables in my manuals, typically
for product lines and product names. Sometimes after
I generate a structured book, the variable content
appears in Times New Roman instead of
--- "Nantel, Elise" wrote:
> I'm working with Structured FM 7.0 on Windows XP.
> I use a lot of variables in my manuals, typically
> for product lines and product names. Sometimes after
> I generate a structured book, the variable content >
> appears in Times New Roman instead of Verdana. It's
>
--- Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
have a document where the EDD uses format change
lists for its formatting.
As a result there is a bare bones paragraph catalog,
with each paragraph
tagged as *Body. When I remove the structure from
the document, the
paragraph catalog now has a
--- Rick Quatro wrote:
> have a document where the EDD uses format change
> lists for its formatting.
> As a result there is a bare bones paragraph catalog,
> with each paragraph
> tagged as *Body. When I remove the structure from
> the document, the
> paragraph catalog now has a bunch of new
--- Radha Padmanabhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I wish to know whether we can use CVS for version
control of FM files/books and how the path
sensitivity of FM /size of books will effect this.
Or what is the best way to ensure version control of
FM docs/books?
--- Radha Padmanabhan wrote:
> I wish to know whether we can use CVS for version
> control of FM files/books and how the path
> sensitivity of FM /size of books will effect this.
> Or what is the best way to ensure version control of
> FM docs/books?
===
It
--- John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the point remains that the best way to prepare
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to
adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
reuse, then spending time learning about DITA
--- John Sgammato wrote:
> But the point remains that the best way to prepare
> depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
> are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to
> adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
> reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would
> be a
--- Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for resources or advice on how to start
working in unstructured Frame in anticipation of a
move to Structured Frame.
1. In your unstructured template, create paragraph,
character, table, marker and
--- Milan Davidovic wrote:
> I'm looking for resources or advice on how to start
> working in unstructured Frame in anticipation of a
> move to Structured Frame.
1. In your unstructured template, create paragraph,
character, table, marker and cross-reference tags
What, exactly, do you mean by Frame's "perversity" in
line wrapping? What, exactly, are you comparing it
with on the XML side?
Frame's line wrapping actions are dependent upon
settings in the paragraph designer, including:
* Under Advanced (automatic hyphenation)
* Under Basic (indents).
---
No one has mentioned the potential for greatly
improving writer productivity, as well as eliminating
format overrides.
Once authors are up to speed on using the structure
view and the element catalog, they're freed from the
entire formatting burden (if the EDD specifies
context-based format
--- Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides-with the caveat that I have not actually
experienced *enforced* structured authoring, per
sé-if you need to format a word or phrase for
emphasis or for special recognition (such as bolding
UI elements), don't you still have to tag that
No one has mentioned the potential for greatly
improving writer productivity, as well as eliminating
format overrides.
Once authors are up to speed on using the structure
view and the element catalog, they're freed from the
entire formatting burden (if the EDD specifies
context-based format
--- Charles Beck wrote:
> Besides-with the caveat that I have not actually
> experienced *enforced* structured authoring, per
> s?-if you need to format a word or phrase for
> emphasis or for special recognition (such as bolding
> UI elements), don't you still have to tag that
> content
--- Scott Prentice [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The only way I can think of to do this without a
plugin (or
FrameScript), would be to source the files as XML or
MIF, and have some
process outside of Frame that manages these values.
In my document entitled A New
--- Scott Prentice wrote:
> The only way I can think of to do this without a
> plugin (or
> FrameScript), would be to source the files as XML or
> MIF, and have some
> process outside of Frame that manages these values.
In my document entitled "A New Approach to
--- Pat Bensky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello Framers,
I am thinking of writing a book about database
publishing. It would cover
publishing with InDesign and Quark (possibly
FrameMaker and Word as well)
using the following methods:
InDesign tags
Quark tags
Xtags, Xdata
XML
RTF
The publication by the STC of this article
demonstrates the declining relevance of that
organization.
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--- Pat Bensky wrote:
> Hello Framers,
> I am thinking of writing a book about database
> publishing. It would cover
> publishing with InDesign and Quark (possibly
> FrameMaker and Word as well)
> using the following methods:
>
> InDesign tags
> Quark tags
> Xtags, Xdata
> XML
> RTF (perhaps)
>
The publication by the STC of this article
demonstrates the declining relevance of that
organization.
--- Andersen, Verner Engell VEA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Have you any idea of how I can have the various
edition numbers in footer of each chapter page and
still have the possibility of importing all formats
from all files without messing things up?
==
This kind of
--- "Andersen, Verner Engell VEA"
wrote:
> Have you any idea of how I can have the various
> edition numbers in footer of each chapter page and
> still have the possibility of importing all formats
> from all files without messing things up?
==
This kind of dilemma can
--- Pedro Pastor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe the troubles I've found come from my
inexperience developing structured applications in
FM, but I cannot fully understand the aim
behind the (so called) XML-roundtrip editing.
==
Assuming that the
--- Pedro Pastor wrote:
> Maybe the troubles I've found come from my
> inexperience developing structured applications in
FM, but I cannot fully understand the aim
> behind the (so called) "XML-roundtrip" editing.
==
Assuming that the documentation you are
--- Peter Ring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dov is of course correct in stating that PDF should
be considered a final form document format. But,
nevertheless, PDF can be used as an
input (to Frame)
===
Another effective way to use PDF as an input to
FrameMaker is to
--- Peter Ring wrote:
> Dov is of course correct in stating that PDF should
> be considered a final form document format. But,
> nevertheless, PDF can be used as an
> input (to Frame)
===
Another effective way to use PDF as an input to
FrameMaker is to use it to
--- Catudal Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would like to display a portion of an element's
REFLOC value, for example,
this element with attribute values
REFEXT REFMAN = WM REFLOC = WM20/REFEXT
to be displayed Wiring Manual Chapter 20
so I would like to display the numerical value of the
--- Catudal & Rousseau wrote:
> I would like to display a portion of an element's
> REFLOC value, for example,
> this element with attribute values
to be displayed Wiring Manual Chapter 20
so I would like to display the numerical value of the
REFLOC attribute with a prefix.
--- Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Supposed to be could be argued, but it certainly
is the way
things *are*. Text insets are treated as black boxes
by the
Find/Change operation.
==
Putting text insets in text frames (each with a
different text
--- Catudal Rousseau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can an element be a container and a system variable
at the same time? I
would like to generate the Chapter-Section-Subject
in the footer of the page from the
attributes of the subject element.
===
Yes, this is
--- Fred Ridder wrote:
> "Supposed to be" could be argued, but it certainly
> is the way
> things *are*. Text insets are treated as black boxes
> by the
> Find/Change operation.
==
Putting text insets in text frames (each with a
different text flow name)
--- Catudal & Rousseau wrote:
> Can an element be a container and a system variable
> at the same time? I
> would like to generate the Chapter-Section-Subject
> in the footer of the page from the
> attributes of the subject element.
===
Yes, this is doable if
--- Pat Christenson wrote:
> I have a large project coming up that involves
> converting unstructured
> FrameMaker docs to structured FrameMaker (7.1 on
> Windows). Does anyone
> know of any helpful websites or documentation to get
> through this as
> quickly and efficiently as possible?
applications ought to
also take advantage of that laboratory.
--- Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Daniel Emory wrote:
--- Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe I'm missing something, and then again,
maybe I'm not.
I too have
always considered it a strange paradox when
--- Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I always felt that This Page Intentionally Left
Blank sounds a bit
weird. Why would you intentionally leave a page
blank? I vote to change
it to This Page Left Blank for Double-sided
Printing.
What about the
.
--- Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Daniel Emory wrote:
The fact is that the US military is the only true
laboratory
where technical documentation is subjected to
extensive
post-publication review to determine its
effectiveness in the
real world. Findings resulting from
nual instructions. Those who
write manuals for non-military applications ought to
also take advantage of that laboratory.
--- "Combs, Richard"
wrote:
> Daniel Emory wrote:
>
> > --- Charles Beck wrote:
> > > Maybe I'm missing something, and then again,
> maybe
--- Shmuel Wolfson wrote:
> I always felt that "This Page Intentionally Left
> Blank" sounds a bit
> weird. Why would you intentionally leave a page
> blank? I vote to change
> it to "This Page Left Blank for Double-sided
> Printing."
What about the case
--- Charles Beck wrote:
> Maybe I'm missing something, and then again, maybe
> I'm not. I too have
> always considered it a strange paradox when I see
> the words "This page
> intentionally left blank." But there is no need to
> use it.
==
Mis-printed
--- Lisa M. Balbes, Ph.D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My client wants one section of a particular chapter
to be in columns, instead of the full page width
text of the rest of the chapter. This
section will extend over several pages, and will
probably have things added and deleted as we
continue
--- "Lisa M. Balbes, Ph.D." wrote:
> My client wants one section of a particular chapter
> to be in columns, instead of the full page width
text of the rest of the chapter. This
> section will extend over several pages, and will
> probably have things added and deleted as we
continue editing
You've gotten plenty of suggestions. I assume that,
presently, production of your catalog is being done in
a manner that is incompatible with a full database
publishing solution, otherwise the solution would be
obvious.
The FrameScript solution offered by Rick Quatro would
seem to be the
You've gotten plenty of suggestions. I assume that,
presently, production of your catalog is being done in
a manner that is incompatible with a full database
publishing solution, otherwise the solution would be
obvious.
The FrameScript solution offered by Rick Quatro would
seem to be the
--- Jon Harvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We would like to begin developing in structured
framemaker. My understanding is that to do so, we
need to bring in schema that FM can use to help us
structure our docs. Can anyone recommend some solid
tools for creating schema? It's either that or
--- Jon Harvey wrote:
> We would like to begin developing in structured
> framemaker. My understanding is that to do so, we
> need to bring in schema that FM can use to help us
> structure our docs. Can anyone recommend some solid
> tools for creating schema? It's either that or
> write the
--- Shlomo Perets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The extremely useful phrase is indeed used in the
review, but frankly I
wasn't sure how it should be interpreted.
=
You are very kind Shlomo.
___
You are currently
--- Shlomo Perets wrote:
> The "extremely useful" phrase is indeed used in the
> review, but frankly I
> wasn't sure how it should be interpreted.
=
You are very kind Shlomo.
--- Andy Kelsall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can't for the life of me figure out how to
vertically align text
in FM. I have a page where I would
like to align the text vertically, but after poking
around FM and doing a
Google search, I'm still stumped.
Is it possible to do this in
--- Andy Kelsall wrote:
> I can't for the life of me figure out how to
> vertically align text
> in FM. I have a page where I would
> like to align the text vertically, but after poking
> around FM and doing a
> Google search, I'm still stumped.
> Is it possible to do this in FM? Does it
wrote:
> I've got one for you I am making hypertext links
> active in the PDF
> output by using a "message URL" hypertext marker. I
> use a character tag
> to identify the text to include in the link. This
> has worked fine for me
> in the past in unstructured docs.
>
> I have recently
--- Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Surely the answer here is 'horses for courses'?
There are many areas where numbering is either
appropriate or essential (engineering manuals,legal
documents, political documents, medical documents,
repair manuals, ya-de-yah), and others where it is
--- Steve Rickaby
wrote:
> Surely the answer here is 'horses for courses'?
> There are many areas where numbering is either
> appropriate or essential (engineering manuals,legal
> documents, political documents, medical documents,
> repair manuals, ya-de-yah), and others where it is
> not. Legal
--- Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't think it was necessary to single out my
response and call what I
said laughable.
Your unqualified statement that the only people left
who use such numbering schemes are engineers
communicating with other
--- Anne Robotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this a private email from Linda that you posted
to the list? How
completely rude.
=
My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's
list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's
name, not the list's name as the
--- "Linda G. Gallagher"
wrote:
> I don't think it was necessary to single out my
> response and call what I
> said laughable.
Your unqualified statement that the only people left
who use such numbering schemes are engineers
communicating with other engineers is
--- Anne Robotti wrote:
> Is this a private email from Linda that you posted
> to the list? How
> completely rude.
=
My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's
list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's
name, not the list's name as the sender. My default
--- "Linda G. Gallagher"
wrote:
> I only use that type of numbering when a client
> insists on it. Typically,
> those clients are engineers with content targeting
> other engineers.
==
The complaint that prompted Ms. Gallagher's response
was that multi-level
--- Anne Robotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greater value? To whom? The consumer, perhaps,
I don't think the companies that are saving money by
outsourcing are
necessarily passing on the savings to the consumer.
I'd have to see some
pretty firm research on that before I'd believe it.
Yeserday, Siberlogic sent to the lists an announcement
of a new CMS product that integrates FrameMaker. I was
acutely interested. The details of the product seemed
a bit light, but I proceeded anyway to look at the
pricing, which, often, gives you a handle on the scope
and breadth of a product.
Yeserday, Siberlogic sent to the lists an announcement
of a new CMS product that integrates FrameMaker. I was
acutely interested. The details of the product seemed
a bit light, but I proceeded anyway to look at the
pricing, which, often, gives you a handle on the scope
and breadth of a product.
If your premise is correct, namely that the formatting
in element Table will be inherited by the table title
and the cells within the table, it's going to be a
mighty strange table, because all text will be 2.0 pt
with a space below of -2.0 pt. clearly, the intent of
this formatting is to create
Are you sure the element named Table is specified as
being of type table? If element Table is a container
type element, element Tgroup should be specified as
the element of type table, and container element Table
then produces the anchor paragraph for the table, and
the text format rules you
If your premise is correct, namely that the formatting
in element Table will be inherited by the table title
and the cells within the table, it's going to be a
mighty strange table, because all text will be 2.0 pt
with a space below of -2.0 pt. clearly, the intent of
this formatting is to create
--- Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
> Thanks for the input, Dan.
> I mostly agree with you about the rest, but it is
> good for reassurance. :-)
>
> What seems to me unprofessional about the legacy EDD
> is that every
> element that has anything to do with text is
> specifically assigned the
>
Im talking about graphs where both the horizontal
and/or vertical axes have a linear array of marked
values, and the axis lines extend across the graphic.
In other words, the background of the graphic looks
like a FrameMaker table in which , consisting of rows
and columns in which all columns are
Im talking about graphs where both the horizontal
and/or vertical axes have a linear array of marked
values, and the axis lines extend across the graphic.
In other words, the background of the graphic looks
like a FrameMaker table in which , consisting of rows
and columns in which all columns are
--- Carol J. Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Good post, Dan. However, I'm trying to visualize
your
statement, ...clicking on this button produced a
menu of links to major subject areas... The
button part I understand, the menu of links I'm
struggling with. A popup menu? If so, could you
--- "Carol J. Elkins"
wrote:
> Good post, Dan. However, I'm trying to visualize
your
> statement, "...clicking on this button produced a
> menu of links to major subject areas..." The
> button part I understand, the menu of links I'm
> struggling with. A popup menu? If so, could you tell
> me
The "Content Wrangler's" "vision" of FrameMaker?s
future is fatally flawed. It would do little to
improve the quality of on-line help, or increase the
penetration of FrameMaker into the on-line help
market.
Some years back, I wrote an article entitled "Thoughts
About On-Line Help", which is still
--- RJ Jacquez wrote:
> Hi All,
> Just wanted to introduce myself to the group and
> share with you that as of Monday, I'm now the >
FrameMaker Evangelist for Adobe Systems and
> so I'm looking forward to contributing to this group
> and being as involved and supportive as I can to
> everyone
--- Lynne A. Price [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thank you Lynne for confirming that this bug has been
propagated through all releases of structured
FrameMaker.
==
1) You comment that it doesn't matter whether the
text range is defined as
an inclusion or
At 09:50 AM 3/31/2006, Terry Badger wrote:
Is there a way to push the auto numbers ing
information generated in FM into the xml file?
I don't see any variables to grab and put into an
xml attribute.
=
What you describe is a serious incompatibility between
the
--- "Lynne A. Price" wrote:
Thank you Lynne for confirming that this bug has been
propagated through all releases of structured
FrameMaker.
==
> 1) You comment that it doesn't matter whether the
> text range is defined as
> an inclusion or contextual element.
At 09:50 AM 3/31/2006, Terry Badger wrote:
>Is there a way to push the auto numbers ing
>information generated in FM into the xml file?
>I don't see any variables to grab and put into an
> xml attribute.
=
What you describe is a serious incompatibility between
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