Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Theresa de Valence]

I USED to be unmoderated on this list but for some reason I got 
unlisted. About 10 years ago I wrote a pleading letter asking to be 
reinstated but I heard nothing . . .


and my posts show up days (and days) later.

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RE: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Craig Ede]

Just to clarify,I know how to get the graphics out of the Word doc. I'm 
interested in clever ways to speed up replacing the embedding images in my new 
FM file with referenced graphics. (The import of the Word file embeds the 
graphics in FM. I want to reference them in.)f

Craig

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DITA to Drupal Round Tripping and DITA to Confluence round-tripping

[gill6034]

Has anyone ever used Drupal as a CMS and/or front-end tool and/or Confluence? 
The Support Guys want to use DITA as an authoring tool. The KB site is 
currently authored in Confluence and then ported to Drupal. If anyone has any 
experience with this, I would appreciate your words of wisdom on this scenario. 

Thanks 
Gillian 
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Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Robert Lauriston]

In the .docx files I've extracted, the bitmaps were PNG. Converting
them to TIFF wouldn't add any value, at least as far as inserting them
by reference in FrameMaker docs.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Carol J. Elkins
 wrote:
> Yes, but doesn't that render the extracted graphics as .jpgs? I strongly
> believe that .jpg is not the best graphic format to use for technical
> publications. Everyone's usage may vary and a lot depends on how the
> graphics were inserted in the Word doc in the first place, but .jpgs don't
> work for me; nor can I edit them. I prefer vector when possible and when
> not, I'll save out as .tif. But I don't have to make that decision if I let
> Acrobat extract as .eps. Even if the Word graphics are bitmaps, they don't
> lose any information when converted to .eps.
>
> Carol
>
>
> At 12:59 PM 6/5/2014, Robert Lauriston wrote:
>>
>> You don't need to convert Word to PDF to extract images. Save the Word
>> doc as .docx if it's not already, make a copy, change the extension
>> from .docx to .zip, extract the files, and the images are all in
>> \word\media.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Carol J. Elkins
>>  wrote:
>> > When I need to convert a Word book into Frame, the workflow I use is to
>> > print the Word book to PDF, open the PDF in Acrobat, and export all of
>> > the
>> > graphics as .eps files.
>
>
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Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Robert Lauriston]

You don't need to convert Word to PDF to extract images. Save the Word
doc as .docx if it's not already, make a copy, change the extension
from .docx to .zip, extract the files, and the images are all in
\word\media.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Carol J. Elkins
 wrote:
> When I need to convert a Word book into Frame, the workflow I use is to
> print the Word book to PDF, open the PDF in Acrobat, and export all of the
> graphics as .eps files.
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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Ken Poshedly]

Just to let all know that I had e-mailed the list moderator either the same day 
or one day later (and that was what? a week ago or so?), and I still don't know 
why my posts are held back.

-- Ken in Atlanta



On Thursday, June 5, 2014 10:57 AM, "Harding, Dan"  
wrote:
 

>
>
>I made a similar complaint about the over-moderation and delays as of late on 
>this list, and the message was never posted to the list… as I expect this one 
>to not be posted as well.
> 
>Manual approval for every single message to the list is an outdated method. 
>For those people who need help resolving problems in a timely manner, having 
>to wait until the next 24- or 48-hour moderation point comes up slows down 
>communication and resolution in both directions.
> 
>On an open list, responses can be made and viewed as fast as the parties make 
>them. With manual moderation, party A makes a request, it’s actually made 
>public up to 24 hours later. Even if someone responds with an answer, THAT 
>response won’t be seen by the originator (unless cc’d) until another 24 hours 
>pass, thus slowing down each response cycle to as long as 48 hours.
> 
>This list was not always manually processed like it is now. What brought it 
>on, and was it approved by the list membership or unilaterally decided upon by 
>one or two parties? For that matter, as Craig asked, who is actually in charge 
>of this list?
> 
>For the list to be effective, the communication needs to be in real time (or 
>as close to real time as email allows).
> 
>-Dan
> 
>From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
>Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:52 AM
>To: 'Ken Poshedly'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question
> 
>Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation of 
>this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but serious 
>users ought to be able to post their questions without long waits and to see 
>the answers posted by experienced users who are being moderated. [As a 
>long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of the flame-wars that 
>used to break out here every year and a half or so.]
> 
>Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through 
>without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?
> 
>Craig
> 
>From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
>Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
>To: FrameMaker Users List
>Subject: FrameMaker graphics question
> 
>I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
>my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
>just doesn't work for me,
>
>
> 
>
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Re: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[Robert Lauriston]

Lots of people have reported problems running FM9 on 64-bit Windows 7.
Can you upgrade to FM12?

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:33 AM, M Lee  wrote:
> Hi Robert,
>
> Tech support at FrameScript did not recommend that I run in XP compatibility
> mode and recommended that I contact Adobe. I tried to submit my problem to
> the FrameMaker forum this morning but kept getting errors when I tried to
> submit my question.
>
> Martha
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Robert Lauriston 
> wrote:
>>
>> Contact FrameScript support for help.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:19 AM, M Lee  wrote:
>> > Hi Matt,
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, it's not limited to a particular doc. And I forgot to add
>> > that if I switch FrameMaker 9 to run in XP compatibility mode, the
>> > crashes
>> > go away. But then my FrameScript add-on acts as if it is unlicensed.
>
>
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Technical Writer Opportinuty: Southern Ontario

[Greg Williams]

Hi everyone,


My employer has posted a full-time permanent technical writer position. We're 
located in London, Ontario. 


See this link for more information on the position.

Really good regards,

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Technical Writer
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AV-BASE Systems, Inc. develops and supports a series of aviation inventory and 
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RE: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Craig Ede]

This zip method of extracting graphics is cleaner that the Word saveAs HTML 
method in that repeated graphics are saved only once and the dual versions 
(both png and jpg) get reduced to only the png files. The result in the end is 
the same set of graphics, but saveAsHTML is more work to get there. Thanks for 
reminding me of this Word "trick".

But beyond getting access to the graphics, I'm really looking for an efficient 
way to import all these graphics to replace the embedded ones without doing it 
by hand. So if anybody has a solution to that particular problem, please let me 
know. For instance, is it fairly easy to get Extendscript to cycle through the 
contents of an /images directory and place graphics sequentially into a series 
of anchored frames tied to a particular para tag format? 

Or is there an easier way?

Thanks.

Craig
Craig,



I don't know how to help you with the import issue, but I'll repeat
a tip I got from someone else:



To obtain all the original graphics files used in a Word .docx file,

1.  Make a copy of the file.

2. Rename the copy, changing the extension from .docx to .zip.

3. Unzip the file.

4. Locate the Media folder within the unzipped content; it contains
all the graphics.



Best regards,

-- 
Stuart Rogers

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Re: XML/EDD Vertical Text Placement in Structured Frame 12

[Ed Nodland]

Tim

I would use the footer with markers.  Here are a couple of references.


http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WS2937A033-EFF3-4d85-BBB3-98214B54950D.html

and page 111 for read/write rules in
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/StructuredDev/Structure_Dev_Reference.pdf

Ed Nodland




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>  I am relatively new to structured Framemaker and am looking for the way
> to control the vertical placement of the XML content via the EDD, multiple
> text flows, or *?*.
>
> I have a functioning EDD and Frame template into which I have successfully
> imported an XML file, which then takes on the font style as assigned by
> the paragraph and character styles. The problem is that the content is not
> vertically placed where I want it on the page. For example, some text
> that is imported needs to be immediately above the page number at the
> bottom of each page, regardless of how much of the page is filled with
> text, which varies significantly from page to page.
>
> Attached is a PDF of a couple of pages of what the finished product
> should look like. FYI-To get the text to appear vertically where I needed
> it, I inserted carriage returns manually. Without those carriage returns,
> there would only be one line break between the various sections.
>
> I assume (hope?) there is some way to control where the text appears in
> Structured Frame, not just the font style, size, bold, italic, left,
> right, center justification, etc. I have searched the web with every
> possible combination of search terms I could think of, but have had no luck
> in finding an answer.
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Re: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[Robert Lauriston]

Contact FrameScript support for help.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:19 AM, M Lee  wrote:
> Hi Matt,
>
> Unfortunately, it's not limited to a particular doc. And I forgot to add
> that if I switch FrameMaker 9 to run in XP compatibility mode, the crashes
> go away. But then my FrameScript add-on acts as if it is unlicensed.
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Re: top-bound book

[Robert Lauriston]

If it stands on the desk, you want all the pages to have the same orientation.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:17 PM, John Sgammato  wrote:
>
> I recently set up a doc just like that, except it stands on the desk like a 
> flip-chart.
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RE: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Harding, Dan]

I made a similar complaint about the over-moderation and delays as of late on 
this list, and the message was never posted to the list... as I expect this one 
to not be posted as well.

Manual approval for every single message to the list is an outdated method. For 
those people who need help resolving problems in a timely manner, having to 
wait until the next 24- or 48-hour moderation point comes up slows down 
communication and resolution in both directions.

On an open list, responses can be made and viewed as fast as the parties make 
them. With manual moderation, party A makes a request, it's actually made 
public up to 24 hours later. Even if someone responds with an answer, THAT 
response won't be seen by the originator (unless cc'd) until another 24 hours 
pass, thus slowing down each response cycle to as long as 48 hours.

This list was not always manually processed like it is now. What brought it on, 
and was it approved by the list membership or unilaterally decided upon by one 
or two parties? For that matter, as Craig asked, who is actually in charge of 
this list?

For the list to be effective, the communication needs to be in real time (or as 
close to real time as email allows).

-Dan

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Craig Ede
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:52 AM
To: 'Ken Poshedly'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation of 
this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but serious 
users ought to be able to post their questions without long waits and to see 
the answers posted by experienced users who are being moderated. [As a 
long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of the flame-wars that used 
to break out here every year and a half or so.]

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through without 
moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

Craig

From: 
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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
To: FrameMaker Users List
Subject: FrameMaker graphics question

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't see 
my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and that 
just doesn't work for me,


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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Johan Anglemark]

I emailed a question to the moderator about this a year ago or so but 
never even got a reply. I have instead stopped writing to the list.


-j

On 2014-06-03 15:52, Craig Ede wrote:

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation
of this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but
serious users ought to be able to post their questions without long
waits and to see the answers posted by experienced users who are being
moderated. [As a long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of
the flame-wars that used to break out here every year and a half or so.]

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

Craig

*From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
*Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
*To:* FrameMaker Users List
*Subject:* FrameMaker graphics question

I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I
don't see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after
posting and that just doesn't work for me,





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RE: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Fred Ridder]

Craig asked who is the moderator of this list at this point, and I have to say 
that I don't know. I did visit the www.frameusers.com website, and that site 
appears to still be owned by Brad Anderson, who also used to be (and maybe 
still is...) the listowner of this list.  But I also noted that there is no 
content there that is newer than July 2011 (FrameMaker 10 still being referred 
to as "new"), so it appears that FrameMaker and frameusers.com are not very 
high on Brad's priority list these days. 

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 09:30:59 +1200
> From: a...@alphabyte.co.nz
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question
> 
> You know, that is kind of why I do not post much anymore. Threads became 
> quite confused as some posts were held back and answered earlier thread 
> posts, which were themselves answered by others who posted later but 
> were passed through sooner.
> 
> I think I would be a long-time framer too, by now.
> 
> True about those flame wars, but there is little evidence of them now. 
> So either people are better behaved or the moderation is working.
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 4/06/14 1:52 AM, Craig Ede wrote:
> > Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation
> > of this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but
> > serious users ought to be able to post their questions without long
> > waits and to see the answers posted by experienced users who are being
> > moderated. [As a long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of
> > the flame-wars that used to break out here every year and a half or so.]
> >
> > Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
> > without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > *From:*framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
> > [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
> > *Sent:* Friday, May 30, 2014 9:32 AM
> > *To:* FrameMaker Users List
> > *Subject:* FrameMaker graphics question
> >
> > I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I
> > don't see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after
> > posting and that just doesn't work for me,
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Alan Litchfield]

You know, that is kind of why I do not post much anymore. Threads became 
quite confused as some posts were held back and answered earlier thread 
posts, which were themselves answered by others who posted later but 
were passed through sooner.


I think I would be a long-time framer too, by now.

True about those flame wars, but there is little evidence of them now. 
So either people are better behaved or the moderation is working.


Alan

On 4/06/14 1:52 AM, Craig Ede wrote:

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation
of this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but
serious users ought to be able to post their questions without long
waits and to see the answers posted by experienced users who are being
moderated. [As a long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of
the flame-wars that used to break out here every year and a half or so.]

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

Craig

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Poshedly
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I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I
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RE: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Fred Ridder]

No, it doesn't render them as JPEGs because there is no rendering involved. The 
zip archive that is the .docx file contains the source graphic files in 
whatever format they were in when inserted into the Word document. Just look in 
the Word/media folder inside the archive.

What this approach does *not* handle, though, is easy access to any embedded 
OLE objects, such as Visio drawings or PowerPoint graphics. These show up in 
the Word/embeddings folder as binary objects that are not usable outside of 
Word.

Also note that it is not necessary to change the extension of the Word filename 
if you have a real zip tool like WinZip rather than using Windows' own zip 
feature. Just choose "All files (*.*)" in the WinZip Open dialog, and you can 
open the .docx archive directly. 

-Fred Ridder

> Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 13:15:08 -0600
> To: rob...@lauriston.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> From: celk...@awrittenword.com
> Subject: Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11
> 
> Yes, but doesn't that render the extracted graphics as .jpgs? I 
> strongly believe that .jpg is not the best graphic format to use for 
> technical publications. Everyone's usage may vary and a lot depends 
> on how the graphics were inserted in the Word doc in the first place, 
> but .jpgs don't work for me; nor can I edit them. I prefer vector 
> when possible and when not, I'll save out as .tif. But I don't have 
> to make that decision if I let Acrobat extract as .eps. Even if the 
> Word graphics are bitmaps, they don't lose any information when 
> converted to .eps.
> 
> Carol
> 
> At 12:59 PM 6/5/2014, Robert Lauriston wrote:
> >You don't need to convert Word to PDF to extract images. Save the Word
> >doc as .docx if it's not already, make a copy, change the extension
> >from .docx to .zip, extract the files, and the images are all in
> >\word\media.
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Carol J. Elkins
> > wrote:
> > > When I need to convert a Word book into Frame, the workflow I use is to
> > > print the Word book to PDF, open the PDF in Acrobat, and export all of the
> > > graphics as .eps files.
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Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Scott Turner]

Another technique to get graphics in vector rather than raster format is to 
extract the page from the PDF, then crop the image. Your final image, while 
better than a simple raster graphic is still limited by the original 
resolution. This does get around the horizontal band problem.

> On Jun 5, 2014, at 13:53, "Carol J. Elkins"  wrote:
> 
> When I need to convert a Word book into Frame, the workflow I use is to print 
> the Word book to PDF, open the PDF in Acrobat, and export all of the graphics 
> as .eps files. Then I import those by reference into the FM book. (I rename 
> them first to some meaningful filename.) However, sometimes for reasons I 
> don't understand, the graphics exported out of the PDF are rendered in 
> multiple horizontal strips and are not usable.
> 
> So my second workflow is to open the PDF page with the problem graphic on it 
> in Illustrator, select the graphic, copy it to a blank file, and save it in 
> Illustrator format. I import the Illustrator graphic by reference into 
> Framemaker.
> 
> I'm using more and more Illustrator graphics as direct imports into my 
> Framemaker documents. It saves time to not have to convert them to .eps or 
> other graphic format. Plus, when I click them in Framemaker, they open 
> directly in Illustrator for editing.
> 
> Carol
> 
> At 11:00 AM 6/5/2014, you wrote:
>> FM, of course, converts the doc with all the Word graphics embedded. I can 
>> get copies of all the graphics by doing a HTML save from Word and then 
>> collecting all the .png and .jgp files that I need from there. But what is 
>> the most efficient way (let's call it the modern way) to get these into the 
>> FM document as imported graphics to replace the embedded graphics. I've done 
>> the replace each one by hand route in the past, but it "rawther bores me".
> 
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Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Carol J. Elkins]

Yes, but doesn't that render the extracted graphics as .jpgs? I 
strongly believe that .jpg is not the best graphic format to use for 
technical publications. Everyone's usage may vary and a lot depends 
on how the graphics were inserted in the Word doc in the first place, 
but .jpgs don't work for me; nor can I edit them. I prefer vector 
when possible and when not, I'll save out as .tif. But I don't have 
to make that decision if I let Acrobat extract as .eps. Even if the 
Word graphics are bitmaps, they don't lose any information when 
converted to .eps.


Carol

At 12:59 PM 6/5/2014, Robert Lauriston wrote:

You don't need to convert Word to PDF to extract images. Save the Word
doc as .docx if it's not already, make a copy, change the extension
from .docx to .zip, extract the files, and the images are all in
\word\media.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Carol J. Elkins
 wrote:
> When I need to convert a Word book into Frame, the workflow I use is to
> print the Word book to PDF, open the PDF in Acrobat, and export all of the
> graphics as .eps files.


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Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Carol J. Elkins]

When I need to convert a Word book into Frame, the workflow I use is 
to print the Word book to PDF, open the PDF in Acrobat, and export 
all of the graphics as .eps files. Then I import those by reference 
into the FM book. (I rename them first to some meaningful filename.) 
However, sometimes for reasons I don't understand, the graphics 
exported out of the PDF are rendered in multiple horizontal strips 
and are not usable.


So my second workflow is to open the PDF page with the problem 
graphic on it in Illustrator, select the graphic, copy it to a blank 
file, and save it in Illustrator format. I import the Illustrator 
graphic by reference into Framemaker.


I'm using more and more Illustrator graphics as direct imports into 
my Framemaker documents. It saves time to not have to convert them to 
.eps or other graphic format. Plus, when I click them in Framemaker, 
they open directly in Illustrator for editing.


Carol

At 11:00 AM 6/5/2014, you wrote:
FM, of course, converts the doc with all the Word graphics embedded. 
I can get copies of all the graphics by doing a HTML save from Word 
and then collecting all the .png and .jgp files that I need from 
there. But what is the most efficient way (let's call it the modern 
way) to get these into the FM document as imported graphics to 
replace the embedded graphics. I've done the replace each one by 
hand route in the past, but it "rawther bores me".


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RE: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

That is unfortunate. A few other things that might be of note.


1.  I assume that your installation of FM 9 is fully patched?

I was on FM 9 for only a short while – I did find it to be less than useful and 
did experience some crashes, but not to the degree that you seem to be 
experiencing! The change-over to the new UI was particularly irritating, and I 
went on to FM 10 and then FM 11 fairly soon.


2.  Have you considered doing a trial install of FM 12 to see if the system 
runs properly with that version?

If no issues, that may indicate that the hardware is fine in general.

Z


From: M Lee [mailto:marthale...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 11:11 AM
To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

Hi Syed,
All the files I'm trying to open are local. What's annoying is that the machine 
I had before was a Windows 7 machine, 64-bit Home Edition, with no problems. 
When I got this "upgrade", I started to have problems with FrameMaker.
Thanks.

Martha

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain 
(syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>> wrote:
I ran FrameMaker – forget which version though, but was probably FM 8 – on a 
Alienware 17” M7700 system some years ago with Windows 7 Ultimate without any 
problems. Fast machine at that time for sure!

So, I would be surprised if the hardware is in any way an issue.

Are the files you are trying to open located on a network server perhaps?

Z


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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:31 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

Hi All,

I have been having trouble with FrameMaker 9 ever since my company got me a new 
machine. FrameMaker 9 consistently crashes when I open a file from within 
FrameMaker. It happens when I have to navigate from within this Open dialog.
I have Technical Communications Suite 2, and I'm running the Windows 7 Ultimate 
OS on an Alienware 17 machine with dual 2.4Ghz processors and 16 GB of RAM. 
This machine is actually a gaming laptop, which my company bought for me 
because it was the only machine they could find with the 17 inch screen and the 
kind of specs I need to run our CAD software. I'm wondering if there is 
something incompatible with this machine and FrameMaker or maybe with Windows 7 
Ultimate.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Martha Lee

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Re: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[M Lee]

Hi Syed,

All the files I'm trying to open are local. What's annoying is that the
machine I had before was a Windows 7 machine, 64-bit Home Edition, with no
problems. When I got this "upgrade", I started to have problems with
FrameMaker.

Thanks.

Martha


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) <
syed.hos...@aeris.net> wrote:

> I ran FrameMaker – forget which version though, but was probably FM 8 – on
> a Alienware 17” M7700 system some years ago with Windows 7 Ultimate without
> any problems. Fast machine at that time for sure!
>
>
>
> So, I would be surprised if the hardware is in any way an issue.
>
>
>
> Are the files you are trying to open located on a network server perhaps?
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
> framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *M Lee
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:31 AM
> *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
> *Subject:* FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have been having trouble with FrameMaker 9 ever since my company got me
> a new machine. FrameMaker 9 consistently crashes when I open a file from
> within FrameMaker. It happens when I have to navigate from within this Open
> dialog.
>
> I have Technical Communications Suite 2, and I'm running the Windows 7
> Ultimate OS on an Alienware 17 machine with dual 2.4Ghz processors and 16
> GB of RAM. This machine is actually a gaming laptop, which my company
> bought for me because it was the only machine they could find with the 17
> inch screen and the kind of specs I need to run our CAD software. I'm
> wondering if there is something incompatible with this machine and
> FrameMaker or maybe with Windows 7 Ultimate.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Martha Lee
>
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RE: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)]

I ran FrameMaker – forget which version though, but was probably FM 8 – on a 
Alienware 17” M7700 system some years ago with Windows 7 Ultimate without any 
problems. Fast machine at that time for sure!

So, I would be surprised if the hardware is in any way an issue.

Are the files you are trying to open located on a network server perhaps?

Z


From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of M Lee
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2014 4:31 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

Hi All,

I have been having trouble with FrameMaker 9 ever since my company got me a new 
machine. FrameMaker 9 consistently crashes when I open a file from within 
FrameMaker. It happens when I have to navigate from within this Open dialog.
I have Technical Communications Suite 2, and I'm running the Windows 7 Ultimate 
OS on an Alienware 17 machine with dual 2.4Ghz processors and 16 GB of RAM. 
This machine is actually a gaming laptop, which my company bought for me 
because it was the only machine they could find with the 17 inch screen and the 
kind of specs I need to run our CAD software. I'm wondering if there is 
something incompatible with this machine and FrameMaker or maybe with Windows 7 
Ultimate.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
Martha Lee
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Re: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[M Lee]

Hi Robert,

Tech support at FrameScript did not recommend that I run in XP
compatibility mode and recommended that I contact Adobe. I tried to submit
my problem to the FrameMaker forum this morning but kept getting errors
when I tried to submit my question.

Martha


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Robert Lauriston 
wrote:

> Contact FrameScript support for help.
>
> On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 7:19 AM, M Lee  wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Unfortunately, it's not limited to a particular doc. And I forgot to add
> > that if I switch FrameMaker 9 to run in XP compatibility mode, the
> crashes
> > go away. But then my FrameScript add-on acts as if it is unlicensed.
>
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Re: XML/EDD Vertical Text Placement in Structured Frame 12

[Scott Prentice]

Hi Tim...

There are "top of page" properties for paragraph styles but not "bottom 
of page". The only way to specify vertical placement of content (within 
the same flow) is to specify the "space above" or "space below" for that 
paragraph tag.


For the main body of each page, you'll likely need to use different 
elements to define the various types of content so you can assign 
differing para tags which apply the right formatting. For the content at 
the bottom, the only thing I can think of is that you'd set up that 
content as attribute values of an element rather than content, then 
you'd include that in the footer region of the page and reference the 
attribute values as header/footer variables.


Here's a rough example. First the XML ..



Test of invariance at the South Pole
A-985-S
NSF/PLR Award 9876543
...

...


Then on the master page expand the footer area to accommodate the new 
info and use the header/footer variables ..


Running H/F 3 = "<$attribute[pm]>
Running H/F 4 = "<$attribute[poc]>

.. with a little tweaking, it *should* work.  :o

That's all that comes to mind .. not terribly complex, but a little 
tricky. Maybe someone else will have another idea.


Of course, there's also the scripting route. You could create an 
ExtendScript or plugin that performs whatever post-processing is needed. 
I think the header/footer variables approach would be easier for this 
situation, but if your formatting gets more complex you may need to get 
out the hammer.


Cheers,

...scott

Scott Prentice
Leximation, Inc.
www.leximation.com
+1.415.485.1892

On 6/3/14 9:01 AM, Bjokne, Tim (Contractor) wrote:

XML/EDD Vertical Text Placement in Structured Frame 12

I am relatively new to structured Framemakerand am looking for the way 
to control theverticalplacement of theXML contentviatheEDD,multiple 
textflows, or _?_.


I have a functioning EDD and Frame template into which I have 
successfully imported anXMLfile, which then takes on the font style as 
assigned by the paragraph and character styles. The problem is that 
the content is notverticallyplaced where I want it on the page. For 
example, some text that is imported needs to be immediately above the 
page number at the bottom ofeachpage,regardlessof how much of the page 
is filled with text, which varies significantly from page to page.


Attached is a PDF ofa couple of pages ofwhat the finished product 
should look like.FYI-To get the text to appear vertically where I 
needed it, I inserted carriage returns manually.Without those carriage 
returns, there would only be one line break between the various sections.


I assume (hope?) there issome way to control where the text appearsin 
StructuredFrame, not just the font style, size, bold, italic,left, 
right, centerjustification, etc.I have searched the web with every 
possible combination of search terms I could think of, but have had no 
luck in finding an answer.


Any help with this would be much appreciated.Thanks!

Tim

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Re: Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2014-Jun-03 2:08 PM, Craig Ede wrote:

Framers,

I'm converting a Word doc with some 300+ graphics to a FM book.

FM, of course, converts the doc with all the Word graphics embedded. I 
can get copies of all the graphics by doing a HTML save from Word and 
then collecting all the .png and .jgp files that I need from there. 
But what is the most efficient way (let's call it the modern way) to 
get these into the FM document as imported graphics to replace the 
embedded graphics. I've done the replace each one by hand route in the 
past, but it "rawther bores me".




Craig,

I don't know how to help you with the import issue, but I'll repeat a 
tip I got from someone else:


To obtain all the original graphics files used in a Word .docx file,
1.  Make a copy of the file.
2. Rename the copy, changing the extension from .docx to .zip.
3. Unzip the file.
4. Locate the Media folder within the unzipped content; it contains all 
the graphics.


Best regards,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Re: top-bound book

[Stuart Rogers]

On 2014-Jun-04 4:54 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:

Framers,

I'm ready to print a wire-bound pocket-sized booklet that will be 
top-bound (coil binding along the top of the book) so as to fit nicely 
in one's pocket. In all my 18 years of doing this, this is the first 
time I've run across having to publish a top-bound book, so I have no 
experience to guide me. Thus I'm emailing you.


I've printed the Framemaker file to PDF and had the printer make a 
demo copy for me. When the booklet is held open to a two-page spread, 
the top page is upside down. In order to view it, one has to turn the 
booklet over or upside-down. I have some questions:


1. Is this the customary way to print a top-bound book? Or should both 
pages be visibly oriented the same direction? (That would put the page 
number of the top (even-numbered) pages on the bound edge.)


2. If not, what is the easiest way to get the even-numbered pages 
turned upside down? 1) By changing the Framemaker template; 2) By 
doing something in Acrobat; or 3) by telling the printer to do 
something on his end.


3. Is there a word that describes this kind of layout? I work with 
imposition in booklet printing a lot but it doesn't seem to apply to 
top-bound books.


I've asked my client to do a bit of usability testing to determine if 
it will make a difference to his users. Will they want to view two 
pages at once? Will they be inconvenienced by having to flip the book 
over every time they advance to the next page? This is a field test 
manual and they will definitely progress through the book one page at 
a time. While he's checking that out, I thought I'd check with you for 
input.


Carol

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I think the word "imposition" still applies, and if a change is 
required, I would definitely expect the commercial printer to be able to 
handle it.


I print my books in-house and bind them with top-binding. My readers 
need to see more than one page at a time, so both pages are oriented to 
be readable simultaneously.  It sounds like that's not the case with 
your readers. On the other hand, if they would be flipping through the 
book to find a specific task in a series (not necessarily in sequence), 
they'd probably find it annoying to have to turn & flip, turn & flip, 
over and over. Being able to turn pages and quickly see the content, and 
only having to fold the binder once (binding at top or bottom) when the 
required page is located, would seem to be more efficient.


But I would definitely rely on your usability testing results to decide 
what's best.


HTH,

--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
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Re: FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[M Lee]

Hi Matt,

Unfortunately, it's not limited to a particular doc. And I forgot to add
that if I switch FrameMaker 9 to run in XP compatibility mode, the crashes
go away. But then my FrameScript add-on acts as if it is unlicensed.

Martha


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 10:17 AM, Matt Sullivan 
wrote:

> Sounds like document prob more than hardware or installation.
>
> Can you work with new docs without crashing?
>
> If so, I suggest importing your offending file into your template, or even
> a new Fm doc to see if that helps.
>
> If the issue persists, I’d check the graphics next…try splitting the doc
> in 2 sections, and see if you can isolate the corrupted graphic.
>
>
> -Matt
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> Hi All,
>
> I have been having trouble with FrameMaker 9 ever since my company got me
> a new machine. FrameMaker 9 consistently crashes when I open a file from
> within FrameMaker. It happens when I have to navigate from within this Open
> dialog.
>
> I have Technical Communications Suite 2, and I'm running the Windows 7
> Ultimate OS on an Alienware 17 machine with dual 2.4Ghz processors and 16
> GB of RAM. This machine is actually a gaming laptop, which my company
> bought for me because it was the only machine they could find with the 17
> inch screen and the kind of specs I need to run our CAD software. I'm
> wondering if there is something incompatible with this machine and
> FrameMaker or maybe with Windows 7 Ultimate.
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> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
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RE: Can't Generate PDF

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Subject: Re: Can't Generate PDF
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Is the Adobe Acrobat printer set as your system default printer?


Can you do File > Print Book and print to the Acrobat printer? (Check Generate 
Acrobat Data and UNcheck Print To File on the print dialog box.)


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On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Karen Robbins  wrote:


Hello Framers,



I recently updated a much-used 200+ Kb file and attempted to save as PDF, which 
failed; I could see the temporary .tps file appear then disappear. Tried 
printing to a .ps file, which also failed; file generates but it contains zero 
kb. Tried different printers in the print setup, all fail. Log file reads "%%[ 
Warning: Empty job. No PDF file produced. ] %%". Tried restarting, save-as on 
the file, and a new document; same results. There is nothing different about my 
setup AFAIK. FM 11.0.2.384 in Windows 7, in Parallels 8.





I can print paper output, which, as I'm on deadline, will have to be scanned to 
PDF (on the Mac side!) and insert into my master FM-generated PDF.



Any suggestions appreciated.



Thanks,

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FrameMaker 9 on Windows 7 Ultimate

[M Lee]

Hi All,

I have been having trouble with FrameMaker 9 ever since my company got me a
new machine. FrameMaker 9 consistently crashes when I open a file from
within FrameMaker. It happens when I have to navigate from within this Open
dialog.

I have Technical Communications Suite 2, and I'm running the Windows 7
Ultimate OS on an Alienware 17 machine with dual 2.4Ghz processors and 16
GB of RAM. This machine is actually a gaming laptop, which my company
bought for me because it was the only machine they could find with the 17
inch screen and the kind of specs I need to run our CAD software. I'm
wondering if there is something incompatible with this machine and
FrameMaker or maybe with Windows 7 Ultimate.

Any ideas?

Thanks.

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Re: Solved: top-bound book

[Bruce Wolf]

Carol:

We do this all the time.  On our printer, we use the duplex top-bottom feature. 
 It has different names on different printers, but you should get the idea.  We 
do our own in-house printing.


BW



On Wednesday, June 4, 2014 7:48 PM, Carol J. Elkins  
wrote:
 


Thanks, everyone. I agree that this should be done by the printer and 
I will contact him. It is easy enough for me to rotate the 
even-numbered pages in the PDF (thanks, Robert!) , which will nicely 
solve that problem if he doesn't want to do it himself. Rotating in 
the PDF will prevent me from having to stand on my head when editing 
the document in Framemaker if I were to rotate the master page.

Carol

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RE: Can't Generate PDF SOLVED

[Craig Ede]

Now that would be a nice situation for Adobe to find a way to put something in 
the error message saying "PDF failure caused by RGB setting", wouldn't it?

Craig
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Subject: Re: Can't Generate PDF SOLVED
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com


Re: Can't Generate PDF SOLVED
Matt,


RGB-CMYK was the culprit! I just tested with CMYK checked in the
PDF settings, and the file rendered correctly. I switched that back to
RGB and it failed.


Thank you!


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Re: top-bound book

[Robert Lauriston]

Use Acrobat's Rotate Pages command to rotate all even-numbered pages
180 degrees.

On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Carol J. Elkins
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> I'm ready to print a wire-bound pocket-sized booklet that will be top-bound
> ... what is the easiest way to get the even-numbered pages turned
> upside down?
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Re: top-bound book

[John Sgammato]

I recently set up a doc just like that, except it stands on the desk like a
flip-chart. Each page show one common procedure. I can send you a PDF if
you like.
If each page has a single topic, then the way you have it is great.
If your procedures commonly extend beyond one page, then maybe this layout
is not a good candidate for your content.
john


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Carol J. Elkins 
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> Framers,
>
> I'm ready to print a wire-bound pocket-sized booklet that will be
> top-bound (coil binding along the top of the book) so as to fit nicely in
> one's pocket. In all my 18 years of doing this, this is the first time I've
> run across having to publish a top-bound book, so I have no experience to
> guide me. Thus I'm emailing you.
>
> I've printed the Framemaker file to PDF and had the printer make a demo
> copy for me. When the booklet is held open to a two-page spread, the top
> page is upside down. In order to view it, one has to turn the booklet over
> or upside-down. I have some questions:
>
> 1. Is this the customary way to print a top-bound book? Or should both
> pages be visibly oriented the same direction? (That would put the page
> number of the top (even-numbered) pages on the bound edge.)
>
> 2. If not, what is the easiest way to get the even-numbered pages turned
> upside down? 1) By changing the Framemaker template; 2) By doing something
> in Acrobat; or 3) by telling the printer to do something on his end.
>
> 3. Is there a word that describes this kind of layout? I work with
> imposition in booklet printing a lot but it doesn't seem to apply to
> top-bound books.
>
> I've asked my client to do a bit of usability testing to determine if it
> will make a difference to his users. Will they want to view two pages at
> once? Will they be inconvenienced by having to flip the book over every
> time they advance to the next page? This is a field test manual and they
> will definitely progress through the book one page at a time. While he's
> checking that out, I thought I'd check with you for input.
>
> Carol
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Word 2010 to non-structured Frame 9

[Harold Winberg]

Hello Framers

Our writing group is being tasked to convert Word 2010 technical documents to 
non-structured Framemaker 9 in order to have all our pubs outsourced (here in 
the USA) as Frame.

Please, what is the best way to do this? We would consider getting a newer 
version of Frame or add-on software.

Thanks

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Boston FM Ninja

[John Sgammato]

The STC New England job bank just posted a 10-week contract for a
FrameMaker super-expert to help with reformatting many docs onsite in
Cambridge, MA. It pays $50/hour. Details are in the members-only job bank
at http://www.STCNewEngland.org
It does not say anything about structure, so I guess it's unstructured.
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RE: Can't Generate PDF

[Craig Ede]

We've had this problem if the path is too long. Try to distill it with a 
shorter filename and path and see what happens.
Tori, if you have Karen's direct email, please forward this on to her since my 
posts take quite a while to show up on framers. (I haven't seen Karen original 
post yet, either).

Craig

> Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 11:26:46 -0700
> From: tm...@spot-on-creative.com
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Can't Generate PDF
> 
> I'd suspect a corrupt graphic. Try making a copy of the file, deleting 
> out all the graphics, see if it will PDF. If so, add back in the first 
> half the graphics, see if the file will now PDF.  If so, add half the 
> remaining graphics, text again. If not, remove half of what you'd added 
> and test again.   Or if there are relatively few graphics, you can just 
> add them back in 1-2 at a time.
> 
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> 
> On 6/4/14, 11:15 AM, Karen Robbins wrote:
> > Hello Framers,
> >
> > I recently updated a much-used 200+ Kb file and attempted to save as 
> > PDF, which failed; I could see the temporary .tps file appear then 
> > disappear. Tried printing to a .ps file, which also failed; file 
> > generates but it contains zero kb. Tried different printers in the 
> > print setup, all fail. Log file reads "%%[ Warning: Empty job. No PDF 
> > file produced. ] %%". Tried restarting, save-as on the file, and a new 
> > document; same results. There is nothing different about my setup 
> > AFAIK. FM 11.0.2.384 in Windows 7, in Parallels 8.
> >
> > I can print paper output, which, as I'm on deadline, will have to be 
> > scanned to PDF (on the Mac side!) and insert into my master 
> > FM-generated PDF.
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karen
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Re: Can't Generate PDF

[Robert Lauriston]

The printer selected needs to be Adobe PDF. If that's not working, you
may need to reinstall.

You might try a MIF wash on the .fm file(s) in case some corruption is
causing the problem.

On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Karen Robbins  wrote:
> Hello Framers,
>
> I recently updated a much-used 200+ Kb file and attempted to save as PDF,
> which failed; I could see the temporary .tps file appear then disappear.
> Tried printing to a .ps file, which also failed; file generates but it
> contains zero kb. Tried different printers in the print setup, all fail. Log
> file reads "%%[ Warning: Empty job. No PDF file produced. ] %%". Tried
> restarting, save-as on the file, and a new document; same results. There is
> nothing different about my setup AFAIK. FM 11.0.2.384 in Windows 7, in
> Parallels 8.
>
> I can print paper output, which, as I'm on deadline, will have to be scanned
> to PDF (on the Mac side!) and insert into my master FM-generated PDF.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
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Import by reference question: Word conversion to FM11

[Craig Ede]

Framers,

I'm converting a Word doc with some 300+ graphics to a FM book.

FM, of course, converts the doc with all the Word graphics embedded. I can get 
copies of all the graphics by doing a HTML save from Word and then collecting 
all the .png and .jgp files that I need from there. But what is the most 
efficient way (let's call it the modern way) to get these into the FM document 
as imported graphics to replace the embedded graphics. I've done the replace 
each one by hand route in the past, but it "rawther bores me".

Any tips about methods to do this (extendscript, etc.) would be appreciated.

Thank you framers.

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Moderating framers WAS: FrameMaker graphics question

[Craig Ede]

Statements like Ken's (below) argue for some loosening of the moderation of
this list. It's one thing to block spammers (and troublemakers) but serious
users ought to be able to post their questions without long waits and to see
the answers posted by experienced users who are being moderated. [As a
long-time framer I suggest this with a clear memory of the flame-wars that
used to break out here every year and a half or so.]

 

Ken, you could also send a plea to the moderator(s) to pass you through
without moderation. Who is/are the moderators at this point anyway?

 

Craig

 

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I did cross-post this elsewhere because -- for whatever reason -- I don't
see my infrequent posts on this list until one or two days after posting and
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Re: Can't Generate PDF

[John Sgammato]

Check your log and see it it got all the way to the last page. If not, go
to the last page it completed and to the following page and look for
something screwy.
Does the book update cleanly?


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Karen Robbins  wrote:

> Hello Framers,
>
> I recently updated a much-used 200+ Kb file and attempted to save as PDF,
> which failed; I could see the temporary .tps file appear then disappear.
> Tried printing to a .ps file, which also failed; file generates but it
> contains zero kb. Tried different printers in the print setup, all fail.
> Log file reads "%%[ Warning: Empty job. No PDF file produced. ] %%". Tried
> restarting, save-as on the file, and a new document; same results. There is
> nothing different about my setup AFAIK. FM 11.0.2.384 in Windows 7, in
> Parallels 8.
>
> I can print paper output, which, as I'm on deadline, will have to be
> scanned to PDF (on the Mac side!) and insert into my master FM-generated
> PDF.
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Karen
>
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XML/EDD Vertical Text Placement in Structured Frame 12

[Bjokne, Tim (Contractor)]

I am relatively new to structured Framemaker and am looking for the way
to control the vertical placement of the XML content via the EDD,
multiple text flows, or ?. 

I have a functioning EDD and Frame template into which I have
successfully imported an XML file, which then takes on the font style as
assigned by the paragraph and character styles. The problem is that the
content is not vertically placed where I want it on the page. For
example, some text that is imported needs to be immediately above the
page number at the bottom of each page, regardless of how much of the
page is filled with text, which varies significantly from page to page. 

Attached is a PDF of a couple of pages of what the finished product
should look like. FYI-To get the text to appear vertically where I
needed it, I inserted carriage returns manually. Without those carriage
returns, there would only be one line break between the various
sections.

I assume (hope?) there is some way to control where the text appears in
Structured Frame, not just the font style, size, bold, italic, left,
right, center justification, etc. I have searched the web with every
possible combination of search terms I could think of, but have had no
luck in finding an answer.

Any help with this would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Tim

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RE: Reproducible FM12 file corruption?

[Kunal Saini]

Hi Dan,

Thanks for reporting this issue. We have logged a bug and will investigate more 
on this.
You can also log bugs on our external facing bug base.

https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm?event=newBug

Thanks
Kunal Saini


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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Harding, Dan
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:31 PM
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Subject: Reproducible FM12 file corruption?

I've been seeing occasional wonkiness (yes, I know... it's a technical term) 
since upgrading from FM10 to TCS5 (FM12), but I think I have narrowed at least 
one of them down to the point where the behavior is reproducible on demand, but 
I'll be darned if I know what is triggering it.

Let's find out if it's just my installation/environment or if it affects others.

I'm running TCS5 under Windows 7, 64-bit Enterprise.

To try to eliminate character & paragraph format catalog issues and template 
anomalies, once I was able to reproduce the behavior, I tried doing the same in 
a generic FM file, and am also seeing the behavior there, so that's what I'm 
going to walk through. I've included screenshots of what I see along the way.

1. Create a new file using the default "Portrait" blank paper.

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-1.png

2. Copy in a few paragraphs of generic text (I use www.lipsum.com).

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-2.png

3. Save the file.

4. Place your cursor in one of the paragraphs.

5. In the Paragraph Designer, change the Spread to 1% and hit Enter to "Apply".

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-3.png

6. Save the file.

7. Press Ctrl+z to undo.

8. WHAMMO! 

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-4.png

On my system, the margins change completely, as if room for side heads was 
added. In my main working file it also put footnotes in the middle of pages.

Also, it's not just any kind of change prior to a save and then undo that 
triggers the corruption. Simple text edits do not trigger it, however changes 
in the paragraph and character designers do. It's not just font attributes, but 
changing paragraph attributes and applying them, followed by a save and undo 
will also trigger the corruption. Changing the color of selected text via the 
tool palette, save, undo, will also trigger it.

It appears to be the sequence of (1) anything involving changing
*ATTRIBUTES* of text, (2) a save, and (3) an immediate undo, that triggers it. 
If I do the above steps without a save, the undo does not cause the corruption. 
It's as if reverting to a pre-save state makes FM go haywire.

Now that I know what triggers the page going nuts, I now know what to avoid 
doing. I would experience this periodically since I'm a save-monkey, and 
wouldn't know what the heck was going on.

Bizarre.

Dan Harding
Technical Editorial Specialist
University of Illinois Tax School
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