Hi listers,
I would like some feedback on this issue which I am sure most of us face.
Please write to me directly as most of the time the mails form forums bounces
and I do not receive them. Not sure about the reason.
I put in a lot of effort to create an exhaustive training material. It incl
I'd suggest using CleanImport to clean up the variables as well as the
tags by imposing the standard template that you settle upon...
Art
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard
I think if you select Print Quality from the Acrobat job options in 8,
that crop / bleed marks are the default, but I don't have 8 on this
system and can't check.
Remember to turn crop marks on in the FM print dialog box too, and to
print on to a paper size larger than the trim size, so there's ro
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Eva Whitley wrote:
> Probably doesn't exist but it would make my life easier if I could ask
> in Help and question using Word terms like:
>
> How do I get the header row to repeat on each page?
>
> Which Word translates to mean: "Repeat a table heading on subsequen
In Frame, you don't have to worry too much about this. You just set up
the table to have so many header rows, and they show up on subsequent pages.
It sounds like you are in the paradigm-shift phase, where you have a
certain conception of how to do things, Frame isn't living up to them,
and you
Everyone,
I need to send my book file to our print vendor as a PDF file with bleed
marks. How do I print to Acrobat 8 and have the bleed marks present.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePark D
Probably doesn't exist but it would make my life easier if I could ask
in Help and question using Word terms like:
How do I get the header row to repeat on each page?
Which Word translates to mean: "Repeat a table heading on subsequent pages"
But the same phrase "Repeat a table heading on subse
Hi, Eva. In answer to your question, I don't know of any such tool offhand, but
a quick Google of "compare Word and Framemaker functions" turned up a page
containing links to various comparison documents. The versions were old (Frame
5.5) but most of the significant functions were established in
Eva Whitley wrote:
> Probably doesn't exist but it would make my life easier if I could ask
> in Help and question using Word terms like:
>
> How do I get the header row to repeat on each page?
>
> Which Word translates to mean: "Repeat a table heading on subsequent
pages"
>
> But the same phra
I totally agree with you Art - I'm just concerned that the client is
focussing more on the platform than the right tool, and to avoid having him
pick Indesign just because it runs native on the Mac and it *can* do
conditional text etc. So all the points everyone is raising is adding to my
arsenal
Laurie,
I think you're overlooking the primary difference between the two
programs -- what they're designed to do.
* FM excels at long-document management, projects where most layout is
driven by a finite set of templates, and situations where
documentation is single-sourced to multiple output for
Hi, Dan:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Dan Harding wrote:
> I have used both FM and ID, but despite their feature set similarities,
> there is one monumental difference:
>
> With FM, every single command and every single action has a keyboard
> equivalent. Not so with InDesign.
With all resp
Joseph,
I've used BookVars to do this for a client. I can't recall the details, but
it worked quite well to clean up variables across a few books.
I think your strategy depends on your needs. Things I'd think about are:
- How many variables are shared (the same) across books.
- If there are lot
Eva Whitley wrote:
> Probably doesn't exist but it would make my life easier if I could ask
> in Help and question using Word terms like:
>
> How do I get the header row to repeat on each page?
>
> Which Word translates to mean: "Repeat a table heading on subsequent
pages"
>
> But the same phr
Thanks so much Peter, this kind of comparison is invaluable.
So why would one choose one over the other when they can both handle user
documentation (apart from any need to convert to help)? Is it a case of:
- "If you only have Indesign, it can do what you need, but if you have a choice
use Fra
Eva,
We've all been where you are. This one took me a while to remember, even
after I learned about it.
Here's how to do it:
You have to add a row to the heading.
1. Click in the row below the current "heading" row.
2. Select Tables > Add Rows or Columns.
3. Select To Heading.
4. Click Add.
Hi guys
Any help on this would be appreciated. I can't seem to save a book as html using
Framemaker 8. Individual files work just fine, but when I Save book as and
select the html option, it appears to process each file etc.. but no html file
is created. No errors, nothing.
any suggestions?
tha
Hi all,
I recently started at a new position. The documentation set is almost all in
FrameMaker (which is good) but the templates are a mess (which is very,
very, very bad). There are tons of unused paragraph and character tags in
each book and there are tags in some books that do not exist in oth
Whaaa . . . .
It WORKS! Thank you, eter.
In case anyone else is interested, here is what works:
Scenario: I have two conditional text tags: PDF and Online.
For my PDF, which people will print and use in the field, I want this to show
as my table title:
Table 5.1 Connections and Switches
Hi, Eva. In answer to your question, I don't know of any such tool offhand, but
a quick Google of "compare Word and Framemaker functions" turned up a page
containing links to various comparison documents. The versions were old (Frame
5.5) but most of the significant functions were established in
Hi:
Is there any way to create a list of the graphics used in a FM file,
including the path name of the file?
Bear
I'd suggest using CleanImport to clean up the variables as well as the
tags by imposing the standard template that you settle upon...
Art
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Th
Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto!
I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between
FM (via Bootcamp/Parallels/whatever) and Indesign for Mac (major functional
requirements are conditions/variables/text insets).
We're pushing for Frame, since we're the ones who will be
I think if you select Print Quality from the Acrobat job options in 8,
that crop / bleed marks are the default, but I don't have 8 on this
system and can't check.
Remember to turn crop marks on in the FM print dialog box too, and to
print on to a paper size larger than the trim size, so there's ro
Joseph,
I've used BookVars to do this for a client. I can't recall the details, but
it worked quite well to clean up variables across a few books.
I think your strategy depends on your needs. Things I'd think about are:
- How many variables are shared (the same) across books.
- If there are lot
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Eva Whitley wrote:
> Probably doesn't exist but it would make my life easier if I could ask
> in Help and question using Word terms like:
>
> How do I get the header row to repeat on each page?
>
> Which Word translates to mean: "Repeat a table heading on subsequen
In Frame, you don't have to worry too much about this. You just set up
the table to have so many header rows, and they show up on subsequent pages.
It sounds like you are in the paradigm-shift phase, where you have a
certain conception of how to do things, Frame isn't living up to them,
and you
Eva,
We've all been where you are. This one took me a while to remember, even
after I learned about it.
Here's how to do it:
You have to add a row to the heading.
1. Click in the row below the current "heading" row.
2. Select Tables > Add Rows or Columns.
3. Select To Heading.
4. Click Add.
Everyone,
I need to send my book file to our print vendor as a PDF file with bleed
marks. How do I print to Acrobat 8 and have the bleed marks present.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Jon Harvey
Manager, Desktop & Enterprise Documentation
CambridgeSoft Corporation
100 CambridgePa
Probably doesn't exist but it would make my life easier if I could ask
in Help and question using Word terms like:
How do I get the header row to repeat on each page?
Which Word translates to mean: "Repeat a table heading on subsequent pages"
But the same phrase "Repeat a table heading on subse
Hi Joseph...
We don't currently have an "official" FM9 version of BookVars available
yet, but the FM8 version can be manually installed on FM9 and it seems
to work fine. We do plan to develop an FM9 version, and the update will
be free to existing users.
If you're interested in getting a manua
Hi Joseph...
We don't currently have an "official" FM9 version of BookVars available
yet, but the FM8 version can be manually installed on FM9 and it seems
to work fine. We do plan to develop an FM9 version, and the update will
be free to existing users.
If you're interested in getting a manua
Hi, Laurie:
I'm an Adobe ACE for FrameMaker and InDesign, and I'm writing a book
for FrameMaker users who want to learn to use InDesign for the same
kind of long and complex technical publications. So, I've been looking
closely at the similarities, differences, workarounds, and tradeoffs
between t
Hi, Dan:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Dan Harding wrote:
> I have used both FM and ID, but despite their feature set similarities,
> there is one monumental difference:
>
> With FM, every single command and every single action has a keyboard
> equivalent. Not so with InDesign.
With all resp
Hi Laurie,
Not a heavy duty FM user; however, run FM 7 under Parallels w/XP on a
MACBook Pro.
Typed and edited a 300+ page book for a friend recently. No complaints.
Gregory Eckrich,
708-862-7180
GWEckrich at wowway.com
On 5-May - 2009, at 11:16 AM, Laurie Little wrote:
> Hello from beauti
Hi, Nancy:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> This is a lengthy, nitty-gritty explanation of one oddity I'm encountering as
> I rework a manual in Framemaker for conversion to a .chm file. So, if you
> like nitty-gritty stuff, read on. If you find such discussions unbearabl
Hi all,
I recently started at a new position. The documentation set is almost all in
FrameMaker (which is good) but the templates are a mess (which is very,
very, very bad). There are tons of unused paragraph and character tags in
each book and there are tags in some books that do not exist in oth
I totally agree with you Art - I'm just concerned that the client is
focussing more on the platform than the right tool, and to avoid having him
pick Indesign just because it runs native on the Mac and it *can* do
conditional text etc. So all the points everyone is raising is adding to my
arsenal
Whaaa . . . .
It WORKS! Thank you, eter.
In case anyone else is interested, here is what works:
Scenario: I have two conditional text tags: PDF and Online.
For my PDF, which people will print and use in the field, I want this to show
as my table title:
Table 5.1 Connections and Switches
Laurie,
I think you're overlooking the primary difference between the two
programs -- what they're designed to do.
* FM excels at long-document management, projects where most layout is
driven by a finite set of templates, and situations where
documentation is single-sourced to multiple output for
Silicon Praire Software (no affiliation with this vendor) has several
plugins for listing and documenting character, paragraph, and table tags.
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html
I find using a multiple-worksheet Excel file helps me document all the
various tags, master page usage
Thanks so much Peter, this kind of comparison is invaluable.
So why would one choose one over the other when they can both handle user
documentation (apart from any need to convert to help)? Is it a case of:
- "If you only have Indesign, it can do what you need, but if you have a choice
use Fra
Hi, Linda. This is an interesting approach -- and I can easily see how we tech
writers may develop standards that are pickier than our clients would ever
require . . . just because we can, darn it!
My manual has chapter page numbers (3-1 to 3-25, then 4-1 to 4-13, etc.). The
table and figure nu
Jim Pinkham wrote:
> I think what we do is a bit ancillary to what you're asking, Nancy, but
> I'll mention it, FWIW. On the title page of our manuals, we include a
> variable that we populate, but not insert or print, called "Version."
> There we'll say something such as this: "5/12/2009 -- This
I use Paragraph Tools and Character Tools to generate lists of template
features, if that is of any help.
Alan
Nancy Allison wrote:
> Yep, I know it's possible to write something up. Have done so for years.
>
> I'm asking if anyone has developed any tools to assist in describing a
> template. Spr
Hi, Laurie:
I'm an Adobe ACE for FrameMaker and InDesign, and I'm writing a book
for FrameMaker users who want to learn to use InDesign for the same
kind of long and complex technical publications. So, I've been looking
closely at the similarities, differences, workarounds, and tradeoffs
between t
I've not used chapter-x numbering in a long time. Unless a document is
maintained in a binder and you update and send just some chapters, I see no
benefit to it. These days, we generally just send out the whole PDF, not
individual chapters. Others may have a different process, but this has been
wor
Hello from beautiful sunny Toronto!
I need to recommend a tool for a client who works on Mac, and it's between
FM (via Bootcamp/Parallels/whatever) and Indesign for Mac (major functional
requirements are conditions/variables/text insets).
We're pushing for Frame, since we're the ones who will be
Hi, Nancy:
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> This is a lengthy, nitty-gritty explanation of one oddity I'm encountering as
> I rework a manual in Framemaker for conversion to a .chm file. So, if you
> like nitty-gritty stuff, read on. If you find such discussions unbearabl
This is a lengthy, nitty-gritty explanation of one oddity I'm encountering as I
rework a manual in Framemaker for conversion to a .chm file. So, if you like
nitty-gritty stuff, read on. If you find such discussions unbearably tedious .
. . you might want to read something else!
Because I starte
Nancy,
I know some folks may disagree with my approach, but I'll share it in case
it might work for you.
For the online help version of content, I do remove chapter numbering. I
number tables and figures 1 through x throughout the whole "book" in both
the print and help.
I retain the table and
Thanks, Jim -- this is a really great tip. Several people have?mentioned
?putting info on a reference page, or elsewhere in the document itself. That
way, you don't have (1) a document over which you have gushed blood, sweat, and
tears, and (2) a Readme spelling out all the fantastic things you
I think what we do is a bit ancillary to what you're asking, Nancy, but
I'll mention it, FWIW. On the title page of our manuals, we include a
variable that we populate, but not insert or print, called "Version."
There we'll say something such as this: "5/12/2009 -- This manual was
created using our
I've not used chapter-x numbering in a long time. Unless a document is
maintained in a binder and you update and send just some chapters, I see no
benefit to it. These days, we generally just send out the whole PDF, not
individual chapters. Others may have a different process, but this has been
wor
Hi, Linda. This is an interesting approach -- and I can easily see how we tech
writers may develop standards that are pickier than our clients would ever
require . . . just because we can, darn it!
My manual has chapter page numbers (3-1 to 3-25, then 4-1 to 4-13, etc.). The
table and figure nu
Nancy,
I know some folks may disagree with my approach, but I'll share it in case
it might work for you.
For the online help version of content, I do remove chapter numbering. I
number tables and figures 1 through x throughout the whole "book" in both
the print and help.
I retain the table and
Jim Pinkham wrote:
> I think what we do is a bit ancillary to what you're asking, Nancy, but
> I'll mention it, FWIW. On the title page of our manuals, we include a
> variable that we populate, but not insert or print, called "Version."
> There we'll say something such as this: "5/12/2009 -- This
This is a lengthy, nitty-gritty explanation of one oddity I'm encountering as I
rework a manual in Framemaker for conversion to a .chm file. So, if you like
nitty-gritty stuff, read on. If you find such discussions unbearably tedious .
. . you might want to read something else!
Because I starte
Thanks, Jim -- this is a really great tip. Several people have mentioned
putting info on a reference page, or elsewhere in the document itself. That
way, you don't have (1) a document over which you have gushed blood, sweat, and
tears, and (2) a Readme spelling out all the fantastic things you
I think what we do is a bit ancillary to what you're asking, Nancy, but
I'll mention it, FWIW. On the title page of our manuals, we include a
variable that we populate, but not insert or print, called "Version."
There we'll say something such as this: "5/12/2009 -- This manual was
created using our
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