Re: Cross-reference to a previous file
It does, actually, but since we make sure that the text is black, it doesn't LOOK like it's clickable. People are so accustomed to links being blue and/or underlined that they never think to hover over text that looks like all the other text. Social engineering at its finest. ;-) -- Lin Sims On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 9:11 AM, David Artman wrote: > |From: Lin Sims > |Date: Tue, December 11, 2012 8:20 pm > | > |Where I work, we have a sort-of-similar issue, and we solved it by > |using cross-references. It means you'll have to remember to check that > |you're pointing to the right files if you add any new ones in, but it > |beats typing everything in (and you'd have to manually update that > |way, too). > > Lin, wouldn't that make it into a link, after PDFing? I'm assuming that > one wants other xrefs to be live links and so one leaves that option > checked in PDF Settings. If xrefs aren't automatically being made into > links, that would work fine. > > Roger, can't you use the Volume value at the book level on the files(s) > and then use that building block in the H/F? Or have you already used > that building block for other purposes? > > As a final, hacky solution, you could make a super-stripped file (I use > MIF editing to kill, like, EVERY catalog I can) and then have one of > those files for each part, in which you define a Variable to carry the > H/F text? That way, you could still use book-wide variables (in another > blank file or in your main template) to apply "major" Variables and the > part-level blank file to apply "minor" variables afterwards. Kind of > manual, but not nearly so much as other methods. > > [I don't have/use FM9+, but it seems like setting the parts up as > books-in-a-book would let you access other Numbering properties > (Section, Sub-Section). So your 'part' text would be the "Chapter" > values--with their para styles handling numbering via autonumbering--and > then "Section" would handle your 'chapter' numbering in the > book-in-book.] > > HTH; > David ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Rucksprung durch Technik: reverse hyperjump key?
FrameMaker doesn't, no, but the JumpBack plugin from Electropubs gives you the capability: http://www.electropubs.com/ez_jumpback.html On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 8:18 AM, Steve Rickaby wrote: > With apologies to Audi, who have just charged me a lot of money. > > Can someone remind me whether there is a shortcut keystroke, or any way, of > traversing a hyperlink in the reverse direction? For example, in Mac > FrameMaker, I can use -click to jump a cross-reference link, > but is there a way of jumping back? > > I did check [my] archives, and found vP, but it doesn't seem to work > across files in the same book. > > -- > Steve > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Typicla auto numbering problem, Frame10 Unstructured
Can you send your numbering properties for all the numbered tags? I'm not sure without looking at them, but I have a feeling that you're using the same counter position/building block for both the figures and some of your section numbers. If you look at this page, Adobe has a nice table about halfway down the page showing how to set the building blocks up. http://help.adobe.com/en_US/framemaker/using/WSF176D8C8-8133-4860-88E3-AF69262623F0.html On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 4:22 PM, wrote: > Framers, > > Back on Frame after several years of being forced to use inferior products. > The hang of it is returning, but I have a strange auto numbering issue. Hope > you can help. > > The figure numbering for the chapter breaks when I add auto numbered figures > and tables. > > Several files in the book. Each file is actually its own manual, and I want > the book to see each as a volume (Vol 1, 2, 3, etc.). That's working OK. I > want each file to start with chapter t after the preliminary pages (Title > page and TOC). The Book is set up as follows: > 1st file : > Volume: #1 > Chapter: #1 (If I make this Read from File it doesn't change anything) > > All other files: > Volume: Continue numbering from previous file in book. > Chapter: Read from File > > Headings are H:Heading1, H:Heading2, etc. > > If figure format is H:Figure\t, I get: > > 2 Heading > 2.1 Heading > Figure 1-5 > Figure 1-6 > 1.6 Heading > Figure 1-7 > really messed up > > If figure format is F:Figure\t, I get: > It does not recognize Heading 1 as but Heading numbers are not > influenced by inserting numbers, but the figures do not adopt the section > number: > > 2.3 heading > Figure 1-3 > Figure 1-4 > 2.3.1 Heading > Figure 1-6 > > If figure format is H:Figure\t<>.\t (as suggested by a post from some > sight), I get: > > 1 Heading > Figure 0-1 > Figure 0-2 > 2 Heading > Figure 0-3 > 2.3 Heading > Figure 0-4 > 2.3.1 Heading > Figure 0-5 > > What should I do to get: > > 1 Heading > Figure 1-1 > 1.1 Heading > Figure 1-2 > 2 Heading > Figure 2-1 > Figure 2-2 > 2.1 Heading > Figure 2-3 > 2.1.1 Heading > Figure 2-4 > and so forth > > Thank you! > A > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Searchable Text in PDF Graphics
Used to be (at least as of FM8), if you distilled a document that had an SVG in it, text in the graphic would be searchable in the PDF. This doesn't seem to be the case in FM10. Is there a distiller setting I'm missing? I really, REALLY need that text to be searchable in the PDF. FM10 (latest patch thanks to licensing issue) Acrobat Pro X 10.1.4 Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Searchable Text in PDF Graphics
Never mind ... it looks as if the issue is not with Frame, but with the SVG export from Visio. We're not sure what's causing the problem, but we have confirmed that some SVG graphics distill with searchable text from FM to PDF, and others don't. On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > Used to be (at least as of FM8), if you distilled a document that had > an SVG in it, text in the graphic would be searchable in the PDF. This > doesn't seem to be the case in FM10. Is there a distiller setting I'm > missing? I really, REALLY need that text to be searchable in the PDF. > > FM10 (latest patch thanks to licensing issue) > Acrobat Pro X 10.1.4 > Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit > > -- > Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM 10 list of pods becomes detached
Grab the pod and start moving it SLOWLY toward the edge of the "frame" for the FrameMaker application. When you see a faint blue line between it and the frame, stop. It's docked. Took me FOREVER to pick up that one, and it's hard because that line is very slender and if you move too fast you'll miss it. On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, all. > > I'm using FM 10 on a Win 7 system. > > On the right side of my workspace, the list of pods has become detached. I > can physically move it outside the FM window altogether, which can be quite > helpful, but I'd like to reattach it now. > > It's persisted through opening and closing Frame and even rebooting the > computer. > > I can't figure out how to reattach it. There's got to be something on the > View menu or Preferences . . . what is it? Thanks! > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fm templates in public domain?
Been a while since I looked at them, but have you checked out the templates Adobe has? They're from version 5.5.x, but they should be more than enough to get you started. http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22&platform=Windows Scroll way down the page until you see "Version 6.0 and before". On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 10:55 AM, John Posada wrote: > Hi guys...i just started using FM11 at my gig after being away since 7.2 and > for the last 3 days have been setting up templates from scratch. I dont have > a problem with doing this, but as the only writer in the department it is > taking forever. My question, and fir those who know that im not trying to > sponge off you guys, but if I can shorten this process by customizing an > existing template, it would be appreciated. Im doing books using the 1.0, > 1.1, 1.1.1 numbering pattern. > > Thanks guys much appreciated. > > John Posada > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables
The caveat here (as I just discovered) is that using those four Modify lines apparently turns cursor key navigation in the regular text OFF. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Heiko Haida wrote: > Hi Rick, > > I checked with my FM 8 and FM 9 installations - table navigation was "OFF". > > Your suggestion is to add: > > > > > > > > > > > In FM 8, I had a modification installed (Shlomo Perets' toolbar). I added > these 4 lines to the existing "custumui.cfg" => table navigation via key > arrows is now ON! > > In FM 9 there was no "customui.cfg", so I created this file with these 4 > lines as the only content => table navigation is now ON! > > So everything's fine and working in these older FM-versions. Thank you! > > Best regards - > > Tino H. Haida, Berlin > > > > Hi Fred, > > > > I specifically tested the four I modified with FrameMaker 10 and they > worked. I don't have 9 anymore so I can't test it with 9. Send me the modify > sequences you tried and I will test them. It could be a problem specific to > 9, but maybe the syntax isn't exactly right. Thanks. > > > > Rick > > > > From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:11 AM > To: r...@rickquatro.com; syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables > > > > Thanks Rick and Syed. > > In my poking around earlier today, I did find these commands in cmds.cfg and > tried to reassign the MoveIPToCellAbove and ...CellBelow commands to more > convenient shortcut keys. But whether I left them alone, changed the > definition, or added a command, those two MoveIP > commands refuse to do anything. ...CellAtLeft and ...CellAtRight both work, > as do MoveIPUpAndSelectText and MoveIPDownAndSelectText, but not the two > commands I specifically want to use. I suppose I'll just have to use the > move and select commands, because at least it's better than having to reach > for the mouse every damn time. > > What's frustrating is that I *know* these commands worked in FM5.5.6, 6.0, > 7.x and 8.0. Chalk up one mlore feature that got broken and never fixed when > Adobe saw fit to impose their stupid and inconvenient (and buggy...) UI on > us with version 9.0. Sigh... > > I suppose I *should* report this bug to Adobe, but every time I have done it > in the past has been an exercise in ultimate frustration. Every time it has > taken me between one and two hours to accomplish something that should have > taken 10-15 minutes. And ever since software development and maintenance was > moved to Bangalore, the only response I have ever gotten to a reported bug > was that "we fixed the software to make it work the way it was supposed to > work". Never mind that the new behavior was illogical and inconsistent with > how other similar features worked, the mere fact that FrameMaker now behaved > differently meant that a whole flock of my carefully designed procedures and > processes no longer worked. I might have chalked it up to job security, but > my employer (by acquisition...) chose to shut down their operation here in > New Jersey. But that's a story for another day... > > Thanks for your efforts, guys. > > Fred Ridder > >> From: r...@rickquatro.com >> To: syed.hos...@aeris.net; alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com; >> docu...@hotmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables >> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 >> >> Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and >> add >> these lines: >> >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > _______ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cursor key navigation in tables - and another thing (graphic frame placement)
I created a customui.cfg file and put it in the fminit\configui folder and it works perfectly. The only caveat, as I noted in a different email, is that cursor navigation apparently no longer works in regular text. Bruce Foster's ImpGraph plugin did what you wanted, but with his death it is, as far as I know, no longer available. Maybe someone has a copy they'd be willing to give you. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Heidi Bailey wrote: > Hi Rick, > I'd love to apply what you describe below. However, in my FM10 Fminit folder, > I have a configui folder (no config folder), and no customui.cfg file. Can > you tell me which of the files in there is the right one: > > Cmds.cfg (which I see someone has already mentioned...) > Mathcmds.cfg > Sample.cfg > Wincmds.cfg > > Or do I need to create a config folder and a file called customui.cfg? > > > Oh, and while I'm emailing the list: > Whenever I put a new graphic frame in (eg when doing Esc fif to place a > screenshot), FM centers the frame. I need my graphic frames left-aligned, so > it is a pain to have to reset this each time. > I hunted through the maker.ini file but found nothing. Is there some way of > setting FM to always left-align new graphic frames? > > Thanks, > Heidi > -- > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:04:34 -0400 > From: "Rick Quatro" > To: "'Syed Zaeem Hosain'" , "'Alison Craig'" > , "'Fred Ridder'" , > > Subject: RE: Cursor key navigation in tables > Message-ID: <001701ce21ea$9f464710$ddd2d530$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Open the FrameMaker/Fminit/Config/customui.cfg file in a text editor and add > these lines: > > > > > > > > > > > Quit and restart FrameMaker. Then you should be able to navigate cells using > the arrow keys. > > > > Technical Author > OCZ Technology Ltd > 25B-25C Western Avenue > Milton Park > Abingdon > Oxfordshire > OX14 4SH > Registered in England no 7806324 > Registered Address: As Above > Tel: +44 (0) 1235 824900 > Fax: +44 (0) 1235 821141 > Email: hbai...@ocztechnology.com > Web: http://www.ocztechnology.com > > > > CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION: This communication including any attached > file(s) is CONFIDENTIAL, intended only for the named recipient (s) above and > contains trade secrets or other information that is exempt from disclosure > under applicable law. Any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of > this communication and any file attachments by anyone other than the named > recipient (s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication > in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail and > permanently delete the original transmission and any attachments from your > computer system and any copies of this message and file attachments. Thank > you. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mass update of system variable
MIF snippet. 1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update. 2. Save as a MIF file. 3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor. 4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update. 5. Save and close the file. 6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF snippet. Let me know if you have questions. :) Lin On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:25 AM, wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to update the definition for the system variable "Running H/F1" > for hundreds of FrameMaker 7.2 files. I don't want to update other user > variables, so I can't use the Import > Formats > Variable definitions > method. > > Does anyone know of a painless way of doing this? > > regards, > > Edwin Tudsbery > -- > The information in this message is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee; access to this > email by anyone else is unauthorised. > If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you are kindly requested > to return a copy of this message to the sender indicating that you > have received it in error, and to destroy the received copy; and (2) > any disclosure or distribution of this message, as well as any action > taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on its content, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. > -- > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mass update of system variable
Really? I've used a MIF snippet in the last month to update all the variables in a book file, and that was in Frame10. (ETudsbury, I forgot to say that you have to reopen the MIF file in FrameMaker, but I figured you'd know that since the file you're importing from has to be open.) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: > Hi, > > > > MIF snippets do not work. > > You can import the MIF snippet only via import by copy > > into a single file. If you would then import the variables > > from this file into other files (via import formats), you would > > import all variables. > > > > I would recommend to check the variable plugins from > > Leximation and Silicon Prairie Software: > > http://leximation.com/tools/ > > http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ > > > > I do not know these plugins. However, I am sure > > they would help you. > > > > Best regards > > > > Winfried > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lin Sims > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 2:36 PM > *To:* etudsb...@cpaglobal.com > *Cc:* Frame Users > *Subject:* Re: mass update of system variable > > > > MIF snippet. > > 1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update. > > 2. Save as a MIF file. > > 3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor. > > 4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update. > > 5. Save and close the file. > > 6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF > snippet. > > Let me know if you have questions. :) > > Lin > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:25 AM, wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to update the definition for the system variable "Running H/F1" > for hundreds of FrameMaker 7.2 files. I don't want to update other user > variables, so I can't use the Import > Formats > Variable definitions > method. > > Does anyone know of a painless way of doing this? > > regards, > > Edwin Tudsbery > -- > > The information in this message is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee; access to this > email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you are kindly requested > to return a copy of this message to the sender indicating that you > have received it in error, and to destroy the received copy; and (2) > any disclosure or distribution of this message, as well as any action > taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on its content, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. > -- > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > -- > > This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for > the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended > recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not > disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information > contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify > the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and > its attachments. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mass update of system variable
If it helps any, I learned to do this from Shlomo. :) Yes, Edwin will have to open each book to do this, but it's still faster than editing one file in each book and importing from there. I don't think there's a plugin available that will do any better than that. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: > Hi Lin, > > > > I was sure. > > > > If you open a MIF snippet to be able to import formats > > from it, all variables which are not defined in the MIF snippet > > are populatead with the default values. That’s why I never used > > it to import formats from it. However, if you do import formats, > > it seems that these default values are _*not*_ imported although > > they are there. Strange. > > > > If you import the MIF snippet as a file, then you can import it only > > into a single file. Of course you can then import variables into > > all other files of the book. However, this is not what the poster > > wanted. > > > > I would make a book with all the files (from all the folders > > and subfolders) and use one of the plugin to import a single > > variable. > > > > Best regards > > > > Winfried > > > > *From:* Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 2:56 PM > *To:* Reng, Dr. Winfried > *Cc:* etudsb...@cpaglobal.com; Frame Users > > *Subject:* Re: mass update of system variable > > > > Really? I've used a MIF snippet in the last month to update all the > variables in a book file, and that was in Frame10. > > (ETudsbury, I forgot to say that you have to reopen the MIF file in > FrameMaker, but I figured you'd know that since the file you're importing > from has to be open.) > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > MIF snippets do not work. > > You can import the MIF snippet only via import by copy > > into a single file. If you would then import the variables > > from this file into other files (via import formats), you would > > import all variables. > > > > I would recommend to check the variable plugins from > > Leximation and Silicon Prairie Software: > > http://leximation.com/tools/ > > http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/ > > > > I do not know these plugins. However, I am sure > > they would help you. > > > > Best regards > > > > Winfried > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lin Sims > *Sent:* Friday, April 19, 2013 2:36 PM > *To:* etudsb...@cpaglobal.com > *Cc:* Frame Users > *Subject:* Re: mass update of system variable > > > > MIF snippet. > > 1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update. > > 2. Save as a MIF file. > > 3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor. > > 4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update. > > 5. Save and close the file. > > 6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF > snippet. > > Let me know if you have questions. :) > > Lin > > > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 8:25 AM, wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to update the definition for the system variable "Running H/F1" > for hundreds of FrameMaker 7.2 files. I don't want to update other user > variables, so I can't use the Import > Formats > Variable definitions > method. > > Does anyone know of a painless way of doing this? > > regards, > > Edwin Tudsbery > -- > > The information in this message is confidential and may be legally > privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee; access to this > email by anyone else is unauthorised. > > If you are not the intended recipient: (1) you are kindly requested > to return a copy of this message to the sender indicating that you > have received it in error, and to destroy the received copy; and (2) > any disclosure or distribution of this message, as well as any action > taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on its content, is prohibited > and may be unlawful. > -- > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Vis
Re: mass update of system variable
I knew you could put books inside of books, but I haven't tried importing variables into a book file that contains other book files. I wasn't sure if Frame would open the document files as well as the book files. My concern with doing that sort of thing was that Edwin said there were hundreds of files to be updated. Opening that many either all at once or one by one, as Frame does when the files aren't already open, could tie up even the most robust system for a long time. On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Matt Sullivan wrote: > And I believe if you create a book which contains each of the needed > books, you can complete the task with one import. > > > -Matt > Matt R. Sullivan > *co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker > 11<http://framemaker11book.com/> > * > *P:* 714.798.7596 | *C:* 714.585.2335 | m...@mattrsullivan.com > > <http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan>@mattrsullivan<http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan> > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrsullivan>LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrsullivan> > > <http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan>facebook<http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan> > <http://mattrsullivan.com/>mattrsullivan.com > > On Apr 19, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > Yes, Edwin will have to open each book to do this, but it's still faster > than editing one file in each book and importing from there. > > > -- Lin Sims <><><><>___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: mass update of system variable
Shmuel, Yes, you understood correctly. That's how Shlomo showed me how to do it. I took his two FrameMaker template courses a few years ago. Lin On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > Hi Craig, > > According to Lin, you use File > Import > Formats and import variables. > > From Lin Sims: > > 1. Open a blank document and edit the variables you want to update. > 2. Save as a MIF file. > 3. Open the MIF file in a TEXT editor. > 4. Delete everything but the code for the variables you want to update. > 5. Save and close the file. > 6. Open the files you want to update and import variables from the MIF > snippet. > > Lin: please correct me if I'm understanding incorrectly. > > Regards, > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > On 22-Apr-13 4:01 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > >> If I remember, you have to File > Import > File with MIF snippets. That >> means you have to import it one file at a time, doesn't it? (Unlike File > >> Import > Formats across a book). This is because you are actually >> importing >> the content into each file (even though it is "invisible" in a sense). >> >> Correct me if I'm wrong. >> >> Craig >> >> -Original Message- >> From: >> framers-bounces@lists.**frameusers.com >> [mailto:framers-bounces@lists.**frameusers.com] >> On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston >> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 6:32 PM >> To: Ed Tudsbery; framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: Re: mass update of system variable >> >> If the MIF snippet or some other approach works, you could do all files at >> once by creating a scratch book, using Windows' search to find all your >> .fm >> files, and dragging and dropping the found files into the book. Then, in >> FrameMaker, select all the files in the book and import the snippet. >> __**_ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe@lists.**frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/**mailman/options/framers/** >> craigede%40hotmail.com<http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com> >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> __**_ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as shmue...@gmail.com. >> >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe@lists.**frameusers.com >> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/**mailman/options/framers/** >> shmuelw1%40gmail.com<http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shmuelw1%40gmail.com> >> >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Resize all table widths to new page size (was letter, now A4)?
Rick Quattro's TableCleaner plugin:
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/index.htm
$60, and worth every penny.
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Fausset, Marilyn
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> Anybody know how to autofit tables that were designed to fit letter size
> paper so they fit within the margins for A4 paper size/within the text
> frame? I'm looking for the most global solution possible.
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> I have hundreds of tables (just a few table formats/styles) that are
> outside of the margins now that I've changed the paper size from letter to
> A4. I want the tables to proportionately resize ("autofit") to be within
> the A4 margins. I use FrameMaker 10. I have already resized the paper to
> A4 and thought the tables would resize, but no luck. I've tried to copy
> special, but that only works for single columns. Redefining the table tags
> hasn't worked either.
>
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> I have wasted too much time already addressing individual tables, but I
> need a global solution. I am doing this at the request of an ISO editor, by
> the way. This is for a standard currently in the ISO submission process. *
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Re: CUDSpan Utilites won't install (FM11, Win 7 Pro)
For FM10, at least, the path is: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker10\fminit\Plugins I have pgfwhopper in that directory, and it works just fine. On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Terri Schultz wrote: > I'm hoping Chris Despopoulos sees this; I'm not sure how to contact him > otherwise. > > I am a long-time user of the CUDSpan utilities, and am trying to install > them. > > FM11, Win 7 Pro. > > My company upgraded to FM11; I did download the new FM11 versions of > Chris' utilities. > > I believe the .dlls must be installed in the "plugins" directory. > However, it looks like FM11 has more than one of these. > > On my system: > Program Files\Adobe\AdobeFrameMaker11\fminit\Plugins > Program Files\AdobeFrameMaker11\plugins > > The error message I see: >Cannot initialize API client c:\program > files\adobe\adobeframemaker11\fminit\plugins\toc_breaker.dll > >Check for errors in the APIClients section of > C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Framemaker11\maker.ini, >verify that the client program exists and make sure you > has enough to swap space to run the desk. > > Thanks in advance for you help. > Terri > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe TCS/FrameMaker Survey?
Yeah. They're running a survey using a third-party. On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Art Campbell wrote: > I think so. > The development team, and much of the marketing team for FrameMaker are > based at Adobe India. > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent > and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. >DoD 358 > > I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA. > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Karen Robbins wrote: > >> Framers, >> >> Is an e-mail message titled "Because Your Opinion Matters to the Adobe >> Tech Comm Team!" from an Adobe "summer intern - marketing," for a survey >> from Adobe India, legitimate? >> >> --Karen >> __**_ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. >> >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe@lists.**frameusers.com >> or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/**mailman/options/framers/art.** >> campbell%40gmail.com<http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com> >> >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: The Problem with Long Titles in Generated Lists
Chris Despoupolis's (sp?) TocBreaker might be of use. You'd have to insert your soft returns once and run TocBreaker to save the information. After that, you run TocBreaker after regenerating. (http://cudspan.net/) It works with all generated lists. You can use Google to search the archives by specifying "site: www.framerusers.org" On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 11:02 AM, Jay Mahler wrote: > I’m sure you’ve all had the problem with TOCs, LOTs, LOFs, and even > indexes. When the title reaches the end of the line (or too many index > entries), the tab character that should position the page number at right > aligned tab doesn’t work, and the page number appears left justified on the > second line with or without continued text. I’ve always gone through and > manually fixed the issue by inserting soft returns after the lists are > generated, but I have a client with a huge document and LOTs and LOFs that > are 20 pages each. Has anyone figured out an automated way to fix this > problem? My experiments haven’t turned up a solution. > > ** ** > > Also, since I’m sure this isn’t the first time someone has asked this > question, I wanted to search old posts and the archives. I can’t figure out > how to do that other than looking at each month manually. Is there a search > tool available somewhere? > > ** ** > > Jay Mahler > > 734-645-6298 > > ** ** > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special character: punctuation space
Number space: Esc++1 Em space: Esc++m En space: Esc++n Thin space: Esc++t You probably want thin space. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Christenson, Pat < pchristen...@ftportfolios.com> wrote: > Thanks for pointing me to bookvars. > > ** ** > > Now a new question: I thought there was a way to insert a space that’s the > width of punctuation, such as a period or comma (similar to Esc spacebar m > for em space, Esc spacebar t for thin space, etc.). I found the Unicode > for it is x2008. I’ve tried (and had other people) try this, holding down > Alt and typing 2008 on the numeric keypad. We get a character that looks > like a long equal sign with a vertical line through it. > > ** ** > > Does anyone know how to create a punctuation space in FrameMaker? > > ** ** > > As always, you guys will almost certainly have the answer! > > ** ** > > Thanks. > > ** ** > > Pat Christenson > > Resource Coordinator > > Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications > > pchristen...@ftportfolios.com > > ** ** > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special character: punctuation space
And if I'd read more closely, I'd have seen you knew how to do thin space. I believe those are the only "special" spaces available, though, so if thin space isn't what you want, you might try numeric. I don't recall ever seeing one that was "the width of punctuation", and I doubt if there is one, since how much space a mark of punctuation takes up depends on the mark in proportional spacing. For example, a "?" will take up more room than a "!". If thin space isn't what you want, try the numeric. Beyond that, I got nothing. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > Number space: Esc++1 > Em space: Esc++m > En space: Esc++n > Thin space: Esc++t > > You probably want thin space. > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Christenson, Pat < > pchristen...@ftportfolios.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for pointing me to bookvars. >> >> ** ** >> >> Now a new question: I thought there was a way to insert a space that’s >> the width of punctuation, such as a period or comma (similar to Esc >> spacebar m for em space, Esc spacebar t for thin space, etc.). I found the >> Unicode for it is x2008. I’ve tried (and had other people) try this, >> holding down Alt and typing 2008 on the numeric keypad. We get a character >> that looks like a long equal sign with a vertical line through it. >> >> ** ** >> >> Does anyone know how to create a punctuation space in FrameMaker? >> >> ** ** >> >> As always, you guys will almost certainly have the answer! >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks. >> >> ** ** >> >> Pat Christenson >> >> Resource Coordinator >> >> Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications >> >> pchristen...@ftportfolios.com >> >> ** ** >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> > > > -- > Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special character: punctuation space
Hi Pat, I don't think there's a keyboard shortcut that will do that, or at least none I've ever found, and I've been creating a quick reference for myself lately on all the keyboard shortcuts I want to use, so I've looked at this a bit. I think the only way to insert a Unicode character like that is to use the Character Palette. I've never been able to type those high Unicode characters in with the number keypad; as far as I can tell, it only lets you input ASCII codes, not Unicode. You'll also need a font that supports full Unicode, such as Arial Unicode MS. Why not just use the variable, if it works? Or write an ExtendScript that'll insert the character without the variable? I've never used ExtendScript, so I'm not sure how that would be done; however, there are lots of people on this list who could probably help with that. Lin On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Christenson, Pat < pchristen...@ftportfolios.com> wrote: > BTW, the character can be created in a variable as \u2008. I just can’t > figure out any way to create it outside of a variable.**** > > ** ** > > Pat > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 1:05 PM > *To:* Christenson, Pat > *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Re: Special character: punctuation space > > ** ** > > And if I'd read more closely, I'd have seen you knew how to do thin space. > > > I believe those are the only "special" spaces available, though, so if > thin space isn't what you want, you might try numeric. I don't recall ever > seeing one that was "the width of punctuation", and I doubt if there is > one, since how much space a mark of punctuation takes up depends on the > mark in proportional spacing. For example, a "?" will take up more room > than a "!". > > If thin space isn't what you want, try the numeric. Beyond that, I got > nothing. :) > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > Number space: Esc++1 > Em space: Esc++m > En space: Esc++n > Thin space: Esc++t > > You probably want thin space. > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 1:25 PM, Christenson, Pat < > pchristen...@ftportfolios.com> wrote: > > Thanks for pointing me to bookvars. > > > > Now a new question: I thought there was a way to insert a space that’s the > width of punctuation, such as a period or comma (similar to Esc spacebar m > for em space, Esc spacebar t for thin space, etc.). I found the Unicode > for it is x2008. I’ve tried (and had other people) try this, holding down > Alt and typing 2008 on the numeric keypad. We get a character that looks > like a long equal sign with a vertical line through it. > > > > Does anyone know how to create a punctuation space in FrameMaker? > > > > As always, you guys will almost certainly have the answer! > > > > Thanks. > > > > Pat Christenson > > Resource Coordinator > > Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications > > pchristen...@ftportfolios.com > > > > ** ** > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special character: punctuation space
Yeah, really. I had no idea there even WAS a Unicode keypad. Very useful knowledge that I intend to pass on to my coworkers. :) On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Christenson, Pat < pchristen...@ftportfolios.com> wrote: > Thanks, Mike. I didn’t see anything about this online. You’ve been very > helpful. > > ** ** > > Pat > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Wickham > *Sent:* Monday, July 01, 2013 3:49 PM > *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > > *Subject:* Re: Special character: punctuation space > > ** ** > > First, if you haven't already, you need to turn on the unicode keypad. > It's turned off in Windows by default. Use regedit to find the key > "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Input Method". Right-click on it, choose > New and then String to create a new string called "EnableHexNumpad" with a > value of "1". (Don't type the quotes.) REBOOT. Don't forget to reboot! > > > Now, you will be able to type unicode characters by holding down the > left-alt key and simultaneously pressing the plus sign on the keypad, and > then (while still holding down the left-alt key) enter the unicode > character. Then release the left-alt key. (Note that the right-alt key > does not work for this.) > > So, for your example you would hold down your Left-Alt key, and then > (simultaneously) on the numeric pad: > press + > press 2 > press 0 > press 0 > press 8 > and then release the Alt key. Some Unicode characters have the hex > letters a to f in them. Simply enter them from the main keyboard (while > still holding down the Left-Alt key). > > PLEASE NOTE that the punctuation space that you want to enter will ONLY > appear if the font you are using contains it as a defined character. (Most > fonts do not.) > > Mike Wickham > > > > > Now a new question: I thought there was a way to insert a space that’s > the width of punctuation, such as a period or comma (similar to Esc > spacebar m for em space, Esc spacebar t for thin space, etc.). I found the > Unicode for it is x2008. I’ve tried (and had other people) try this, > holding down Alt and typing 2008 on the numeric keypad. We get a character > that looks like a long equal sign with a vertical line through it. > > > > Does anyone know how to create a punctuation space in FrameMaker? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cleaning Character Formats
And as of Frame 10, you can also search for Character Format Override and Paragraph Format Override, so you don't even need to search for a specific tag. If you do search for a specific tag, remember that the first time you find it, you can reapply the tag to clear the override, then Copy Special the Character Format and do a search and replace for the rest of the book. HTH, Lin On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > If I'm reading your message right, you should be choosing "Character > Tag:" in the Find dialog, rather than a "Character Format." The former > searches for text with the assigned character style. The latter finds text > with specific attributes, which may or may not have been assigned a > character style. > > Mike Wickham > > > On 7/9/2013 2:15 PM, Karen Robbins wrote: > > I want to remove rogue character formats and replace them with correct > ones. I've used Character Tools to generate a list of formats by file so I > know which ones are in each document of my book. I choose "Character > Format..." in the Find/Change palette, type the character format name in > the entry field, check the "Consider Case" checkbox, check the "Document" > radio button to check only the open document, and click "Find." > > Usually, the "Find Character Format" dialog appears. I can't possibly > remember all the properties I assigned to every format I created, and > certainly wouldn't know the properties of a rogue or legacy style that I > didn't create. I just want to find the format by the name assigned to it. > Shouldn't those names appear in the scrollable entry field of the > Find/Change palette, the same way paragraph styles do? (Not even default > character styles show up.) Must I generate a long CT report on all styles > to get the properties to complete this dialog? > > If I close this dialog and try again, a "Specify the character format to > find" alert appears. > > My documents have only an A flow. I doubt the character format I'm looking > for would be on a master page. Even if a style or two were in an unanchored > box, for example, that doesn't explain all styles not being available or > found. > > I'm sure this is a case of user error. What am I doing wrong? > > Thanks, > Karen > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as i...@mikewickham.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/info%40mikewickham.com > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. > Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Index and Glossary
Hi Don, Do you mean that you want to create a list of terms in a file and have something automatically mark those terms in your documents to be added to an Index? I don't know if FM does this by itself, but I believe that IXgen ( http://www.fsatools.com/ixds.html) will do this. Index Markers by Configuration, from SQUIDDS (part of Finalyzer: http://www.finalyser.de/en/finalyser.html), MIGHT do this, but I've never used the tool so I'm not positive. HTH On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Donald Rinderknecht - NOAA Federal < donald.m.rinderkne...@noaa.gov> wrote: > Hi Framers, > > > > Am I imagining things? I thought there was a way to generate an index > based upon a list of terms, but I can’t find anything in the documentation. > > > > We’re trying to build a glossary and I thought that tool might be useful. > > > > Any tips? > > > > Thanks, > don > > > > -- > > Don Rinderknecht > > Meteorologist Instructor > > Warning Decision Training Branch > > Norman, OK > > 405.325.2805 > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Can't enter alpha character in text
Hi Nancy, If you look closely at the table, you'll see that the alpha symbol appears in the Symbol font column. In other words, Adobe/Frame is advising that you enter ANSI 097 (for "a") and apply the Symbol font. So you understood just fine, you just missed the last step. At the end of the week, that's understandable! On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi. I got the information from > > > http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CD0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhelp.adobe.com%2Fen_US%2FFrameMaker%2F9.0%2FCharacterSets%2Fcharacter_sets.pdf&ei=GY_pUZeXE8n8rQHv94GIAw&usg=AFQjCNEADIHLoVklxZjm2FE3eoYSJiivNA&sig2=eqrSkmCmmAGN9qHV8eEcMg&bvm=bv.49478099,d.aWM > > Sorry the URL is so long. It's the Character Set book for FrameMaker 9. I > hoped it would work for FM 10, too. > > Obviously, I need to update my understanding of FM 10 and character sets. > > Thanks, everyone. I am saving your responses for reference the next time > the special-character struggle comes up. Which it will. > > > On 07/19/13, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Where did you get that 097 code point? > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: CleanImport and ElectroPubs?
Holy carp ... not only not home, but parked on GoDaddy. I wonder what happened. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 1:45 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > I use CleanImport a lot. > But I just went to http://www.electropubs.com/ and there's nobody home! > > -- > > > > > > > > > > *John Sgammato * > > Documentation Architect > > *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com > > *w* +1-(508) 927-2083 > > *Recover anything instantly for up to 90% less than you're paying now. > * > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Updating TOC Wipes Formatting
Hi Karen, You need to set up how you want your TOC to look on its reference page. If you already have a TOC set up correctly, use File > Import > Formats, deselect All, then select Reference Pages and Paragraph Tags, and import. The next time you update the book, the TOC will be in the correct formatting. If you don't have one set up correctly, you'll have to do it. Click View > Reference Pages Find the reference page labeled TOC. It'll probably have something there already with paragraph tag labels such as Heading1TOC. Use the paragraph designer to format your TOC tags on this page. When you're done, click View > Body Pages and then regenerate the book HTH, Lin On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Karen Robbins wrote: > Hi Framers, > > Why does updating a book strip all formatting from existing TOC entries? > I've already imported paragraph formats to the TOC file. I haven't altered > the text of the entries or their page numbers, just applied formatting from > the paragraph designer. Clicking "default font" doesn't restore applied > formats. > > I would understand if new entries picked up during the update had no > formatting, but I can't see why entries that match what's already there and > don't change would have their formatting stripped out. > > This makes updating the TOC take two, three, four times as long as it > should! > > Thanks, > --Karen > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Inserting inline graphics
If someone has a copy of Bruce Fosters ImpGraph plugin that they're willing to give you, that may do what you need. Unfortunately, Bruce has died and as far as I am aware, this plugin is no longer publicly available. I'm also unsure if it will work with anything past FM8. You can also try Felix Ritter's fmGraphicTools. I'm less sure if it can do what you need, and I have no information on its version compatibility. You can find them at: http://www.mevis-research.de/~ritter/awakeideas/fmtools.html Hope that helps, Lin On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Alastair Dent wrote: > Thanks for your reply, Matt. > > ** ** > > When I do the initial paste, FM defaults to placing the button icon below > the insertion point line. Can I configure it to paste inline? > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Thank other people for their responses. Setting up a document and > pre-configuring the graphics in there is simply not practical. There are > hundreds of icons in this product and I will only know which ones I need to > use as I’m writing. > > ** ** > > *From:* Matt Sullivan [mailto:m...@mattrsullivan.com] > *Sent:* 09 September 2013 22:20 > *To:* Alastair Dent > *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Re: Inserting inline graphics > > ** ** > > I had to do that approximately eleventh-six hundred times in writing the > Fm11 book! > > ** ** > > I set my cursor in the text, between ()'s, and hit paste. Then I used > Alt+(down arrow) to wrangle it into position. I don't know that you'll find > a faster solution than that... > > > -Matt > > *Matt R. Sullivan* > *co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker > 11<http://framemaker11book.com/> > * > *P:* 714.798.7596 | *C:* 714.585.2335 | m...@mattrsullivan.com > > > <http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan>@mattrsullivan<http://twitter.com/mattrsullivan> > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrsullivan>LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/in/mattrsullivan> > > <http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan>facebook<http://www.facebook.com/mattrsullivan> > <http://mattrsullivan.com/>mattrsullivan.com > > ** ** > > On Sep 9, 2013, at 8:28 AM, Alastair Dent > wrote: > > > > > > I need to be able to quickly insert graphics (button icons) into > instructions. > > > > I’ve had a brief go at this and it seems needlessly complex > > Paste graphic > > Select frame, chance to ‘anchor at insertion point’. > > > > I still end up with a button icon floating too high. > > > > What am I missing? > > > > *Alastair Dent* > > Technical Author > > Imagination Technologies Limited > > t: +44 (0)113 242 9814 > > www.imgtec.com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ** ** > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word and Frame comparisons
I recall hearing (about 10 years or so ago, things may have changed), that a lot of Microsoft's documentation was written in FrameMaker, not Word, because Word couldn't handle what they needed to do. That always amused me. I wonder if it's still the case ... On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Steve Rickaby < srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote: > At 13:41 -0700 25/9/13, Alison Craig wrote: > > >"Word isŠ (long pause), Word isŠ (another long pause). Word is for memos." > > Ok, I cannot resist rising to this... > > Quite a few years ago, I had to prepare some assembly instructions for a > mineral ore separator. The client mandated Word, probably because it was > the only document preparation program they had ever heard of. > > The version of Word I was using had the interesting property of consigning > diagrams that overflowed the page into some Byte World in the Sky: that is, > as added text caused them to flow off the end of the current page, they > failed to appear on the following page. > > I had (gasp) paid support for this version of Word, so I rang Microsoft > and explained the issue. After a long pause, the M$ support person said - > and I am not making this up - "It sounds as if you are trying to do > something that is too complex for Word [yeah, like words and pictures?] - > have you thought of using FrameMaker?" > > -- > Steve [Trim e-mails: use less disk, use less power, use less planet] > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Engineers as authors
You can lock it down. We've done something similar where I work--created a Word template with the styles named the same way as in our Frame template, and then locked the Word template to prevent on-the-fly formatting. The engineers vacillate between loving it (everything's already set up! yay!) and hating it (why can't I use Bold anymore? Wah!), but it surely makes life easier for US. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Nice to hear you're not going to make that common mistake. > > Supposedly you can lock down Word templates these days to restrict > styles to a defined list. I'll believe it when I see it. > > > On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Stephen O'Brien > wrote: > > > > Your answers actually helped me nudge an existing project in a different > direction. The engineers were being asked a level of writing that was > beyond their abilities and a negative attitude was developing with regards > to contributing expert content. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame 11 (UNstructured Features)
Hi Winifred, Do you happen to recall if they fixed the bug that affected text searchability in SVG graphics after they and the Frame file are rendered into PDF? Thanks, Lin On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: > Hi Craig, > > > > On the tekom/tcworld conference in Wiesbaden/Germany > > Kapil Verna presented FrameMaker 12. I do not know when it > > will come out, but it might be worth waiting a few months. > > > > Featues for FrameMaker 12 which I remember: > > Native export to epub, HTML 5 > > Much improved export to PDF for proofreading and import of comments > > Grep for search and replace > > Lots of fixed bugs > > Improved assignment of conditional formats > > Editor for show/hide expresssions with brackets > > FM server to publish PDF as web service > > Two FrameMaker variants: FM Full (as we know it)/XML Author (only for XML > authoring) > > MathML support > > > > Best regards > > > > Winfried > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig, Alison > *Sent:* Friday, December 06, 2013 8:16 PM > *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Frame 11 (UNstructured Features) > > > > Sometime last year when Frame 11 came out, there were any number of > e-mails that dealt with (or had links to) what was new in the product. > > > > We are currently looking at whether to move our tech doc team from Frame 9 > to Frame 11 – given that when Frame 12 comes out, we’d have to buy > completely new copies rather than go the update route. > > > > I’ve looked in my archive and can’t find the threads that discussed this. > Can anyone point me in the right direction? > > > > Note that I am interested in details regarding *unstructured* Frame. I > also realize that there are any number of changes from Frame 10 that may be > useful to us as well. > > > > Alison > > > > > > > > *Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead * > > Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | > analogicultrasound.com <http://www.analogicultrasound.com> > > *T 604-279-8550 ext 127 <604-279-8550%20ext%20127> | F 604-279-8559 > <604-279-8559>* > > -- > > This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for > the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended > recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not > disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information > contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify > the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and > its attachments. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FrameMaker 12 released
Thanks for the links, Winfried. Does anyone know if FM12 (and also FM11) come in 32-bit AND 64-bit versions, or are they both strictly 32 bits? I've only been able to find that FM9 was 32-bit only. Thanks, Lin On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:57 AM, Reng, Dr. Winfried wrote: > Hi, > > FrameMaker 12 is released now. > There are many links with information. See below. > > Best regards > > Winfried > > --- > > http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/01/framemaker-12-launch-blog.html > > > http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/01/technical-communication-suite-5-is-here.html > > http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/01/product-o-pedia-2014.html > > What's new in FrameMaker 12: > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/features.html > > Refer to the version comparison chart to see how FM has evolved: > > wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/framemaker/framemaker-12/PDFs/FRAMEMAKER12_VERSION_COMPARISION.PDF > > For answers to many questions on FM12, please see the FM12 FAQ > http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker/faq.html > > What's new inTechCommSuite 5: TCS 5 Features > http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/features.html > > Refer to the version comparison to see how the TCS has evolved: > > http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/techcomsuite-5/pdf/TCS5_VERSION_COMPARISION.PDF > > Reviews: > http://techwhirl.com/adobe-framemaker-12-first-look-review/ > http://techwhirl.com/adobe-framemaker-xml-author-12-first-look-review/ > > > > This e-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended for > the use of the addressees named above. If you are not the intended > recipient of this e-mail, you are hereby notified that you must not > disseminate, copy or take any action in respect of any information > contained in it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify > the sender immediately by e-mail and immediately destroy this e-mail and > its attachments. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12 is here!
Hi, Kapil, Your blog doesn't mention bug fixes. Has the SVG to PDF bug been fixed? My company needs to be able to search for text in the graphics we create, and that bug is really causing us problems. Thanks, Lin On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Kapil Verma wrote: > Hello Framers, > > > > First of all, wish you all a happy new year 2014! For those of you who > don’t know me, I am a Sr. Product Manager at Adobe and am responsible for > Adobe’s Technical Communication product line. > > > > Today, I have some exciting news for you! It is my pleasure to announce > the availability of the new versions of Adobe’s Technical Communication > products <http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite.html>. > On the FrameMaker side, we launched FrameMaker > 12<http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html>, > FrameMaker Publishing Server > 12<http://www.adobe.com/products/framemakerpublishingserver.html>and a brand > new, exciting product in FrameMaker > XML Author 12 <http://www.adobe.com/products/framemakerxmlauthor.html>! > Yes, you read it right! There is going to be a new product focused > exclusively on XML authoring. > > > > Read my blog post *here > <http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/01/framemaker-12-launch-blog.html> *for > more details.. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Kapil Verma > > Sr. Product Manager – Adobe Technical Communications Products > > O: +91-120-2444711 x 34505 > > > > Technical Communication > Suite<http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite.html>I > FrameMaker <http://www.adobe.com/products/framemaker.html> I > RoboHelp<http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelp.html>I *FrameMaker > Publishing Server <http://www.adobe.com/products/framemakerserver.html>*I > *RoboHelp > Server <http://www.adobe.com/products/robohelpserver.html>* > > > > Blog <http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/> | > Twitter<https://twitter.com/KapilVermaAdobe>| > Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/adobetcs> > > > > *Learning Resources* > > *Upcoming LIVE eSeminars > <http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=list&loc=en_us&type=eseminar&product=Technical+Communication+Suite&interest=&audience=&monthyear=>* > > *On-Demand eSeminars > <http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/event/index.cfm?event=list&loc=en_us&type=ondemand_seminar&product=Technical+Communication+Suite&interest=&audience>* > > *Technical Communication CHANNEL on Adobe TV > <http://tv.adobe.com/channel/technical-communication/>* > > *Technical Communication Whitepapers > <http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=tcs%5Faberdeen%5Fwhitepaper> > * > > *FrameMaker Whitepapers > <https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=framemaker%5Fdita%5Fwhitepaper>* > > *RoboHelp Whitepapers > <https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=robohelp%5Fwhitepaper>* > > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12 is here!
Hi Rick, That's disappointing. Do you know if it's on the schedule to be fixed? Lin On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:54 AM, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Lin, > > > > That hasn't been fixed. > > > > Rick Quatro > > Carmen Publishing Inc. > > 585-366-4017 > > r...@frameexpert.com > > > > > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lin Sims > *Sent:* Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:32 AM > *To:* Kapil Verma > *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Re: FM12 is here! > > > > Hi, Kapil, > > Your blog doesn't mention bug fixes. Has the SVG to PDF bug been fixed? My > company needs to be able to search for text in the graphics we create, and > that bug is really causing us problems. > > Thanks, > > Lin > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer
Hey, Max, do the Esc shortcuts still work? Sometime around FM9, some of them (some of the table cursor movement ones) stopped working. I wish that could be fixed, too, and expanded to add the new features and commands. They're VERY useful for fast access to a lot of the submenus. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann wrote: > David, > > > > Those commands should work. You might also try the shortcuts Control-M for > para designer and Control-D for character designer. Check to see which > workspace you are using. > > > > Make sure that you did not use Edit->Preferences and change your user > interface to "FrameMaker XML Editor" ... which does make those menus go away. > > > * -- * > > > > *Maxwell Hoffmann* | Product Evangelist | Adobe | p. 503.336.5952 > | c. 503.805.3719 | mhoff...@adobe.com > > *http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann* <http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann>* > - > **http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann*<http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann>* > blogs.adobe.com/techcomm <http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm>* > > *Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI <http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI> > Recorded webinars: http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J <http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J>* > > > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *David Downing > *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 2:11 PM > *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character > Designer > > > > I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a > major snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and > neither the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get > to it. I searched on my own, and found the menu option Format -> Paragraph > -> Designer, which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and > -- nothing happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as > the Paragraph Designer. The same thing happened with the character > designer. So either I'm making some kind of error or something's wrong with > my copy of FM. I hope it's my error and you can tell me how to correct it. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cannot insert the infinity symbol and other special character
lease > select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys PLC is owned by > the Schneider-Electric Group. > You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail > recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be > subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its > subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and > affiliates). > > > _______ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Having problems with importing an EPS file into FrameMaker ...
As I recall, Frame doesn't display EPS natively. Instead, it uses a TIF image which, as you noticed, is pretty horrible. When you print to PDF, however, it'll look just fine. Unless there's some overriding reason you need it to be lovely in Frame, I wouldn't worry about it. If there is, try converting to SVG, which Frame handles just fine and is also a vector format. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) < syed.hos...@aeris.net> wrote: > Hi, all. > > > > I am trying to import a graphic - with only four colors in it - (it is in > EPS format) and am having some bizarre difficulties. When I view the EPS > file on my Windows system using PS_view, it looks perfectly fine - even > when zoomed in. > > > > However, for some reason, the file comes into FrameMaker in a tiny 103 x > 50 resolution (I didn't see any option to rasterize it at a larger > resolution or dpi?) and the result when zoomed up a bit, is *horrible*. > The rasterized resampling of the few colors in the graphic results in an > unusably bad quality image. > > > > If I externally rasterize the EPS into TIF using Photoshop set to NO > anti-alias and with a resolution of 1800 dpi (I know this is a bit > overkill, but I am trying to minimize jaggies along the curves of the > graphic), it works! But the resulting TIF file is over 25 Megabytes and I > would like to avoid that - should I try LZW compression when saving perhaps? > > > > Also, I am using an older version of Photoshop (CS3) for this work, and > after I rasterize into Photoshop at 1800, I cannot seem to find the option > to save the file in PNG format. So, am using TIF. > > > > Is there something about/in the EPS file to begin with, such that > FrameMaker seems to want to rasterize it into a 103 x 50 image? Is there a > way to change that "option"? > > > > Z > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat X: Possible to transfer comments between PDFs?
Hi all, We use Acrobat's shared reviews as part of our documentation process. Sometimes not all the comments get addressed before a document gets released, which means that I need that information for the next review session. Is there ANY way to transfer comments from a closed Shared Review PDF to the next/newer Shared Review PDF? I do NOT want to have to retype 190 comments! Regards, -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat X: Possible to transfer comments between PDFs?
Thank you all. We're still using FM10 and Acrobat Pro X. Both Art's and Craig's information was useful--I can import the comments from the old PDF into the new one, and it's a lot easier than I expected. As Monica notes, however, they're not necessarily in the right spots on the page, as things have changed between versions. Still, they're at least usually on the same page, so that's a good start. Maybe it'll be good enough. I'm going to experiment with trying to move some, although I suspect if it's not my comment the program won't let me. We'll see. Lin On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:28 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > Look into how FM 12 handles importing PDF comments. I haven't used this > yet, but my understanding is you can import the PDF comments into FM as > conditional text. (The PDF must be a tagged PDF.) You could then change the > condition on the item you want to save and then mass delete the rest via > deleting the original condition and choosing "Delete the text" rather than > "Make the Text Unconditional". > > The devil is in the details, and the FM 11 version was flawed, but if you > have FM 12 this might work for you. > > Craig > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Keyboard shortcut for closing pods
The problem with the suggestion of using two or three Escapes in a row is that it could well break all the OTHER keyboard shortcuts that use the Esc key. Also, if you are mis-entering a keyboard shortcut, pressing Esc a couple of times resets the sequence so you can start over again. I think Esc Pc is unused, though, at least as of FM 11. Lin On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:31 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > I just submitted the feature request below to Adobe. I'm posting this to > the Framers list to get some feedback from others in hopes that Adobe will > actually do something about it. > If you agree with my, please post a comment on the list or on Adobe's > feedback for here: > https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform > > ***BUG*** > *Concise problem statement: No easy keyboard shortcut to minimize or close > pods.* > > *... Expected results: It would be a great time saver if pressing the > Escape key twice without pause would minimize the last used pod, and > pressing the Escape key three times without pause would close the pod. This > is for all the pods, Cross-Reference, Find/Change, etc. The other option > would be just to make pressing the Escape key twice close the pod, which to > me would be second best, but far better than the current situation which > requires clicking on a small icon to minimize or close a pod.* > > > -- > Shmuel Wolfson > Technical Writer > 052-763-7133 > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Jeremy H. Griffith, 1942-2014
Oh, that sucks so much. I liked Jeremy, he was a good guy. On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:15 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > Indeed yes. A stalwart of tlhe industry and supporter of the little guy. > Jeremy saved my bacon on more than occasion. He will be truly missed and I > wish his family and friends all the best at this difficult time. > > Regards > Alan > > On 10 June 2014 3:03:33 PM NZST, rebecca officer < > rebecca.offi...@alliedtelesis.co.nz> wrote: > >> Hi everyone >> >> I was very sorry to see a recent post on the dita-users list saying that >> Jeremy has died. We've used Mif2Go extensively and found Jeremy incredibly >> helpful. The FM community won't be the same without him. >> >> Regards >> Rebecca >> >> >>> "cstall...@omsys.com [dita-users]" >> 8/06/14 10:25 >>> >> >> >> Jeremy Griffith, the creator of DITA2Go and Mif2Go, died on May 15 after >> a long illness. He will be missed very much. >> >> >> --Carolyn Stallard >> >> __._,_.___ >> -- >> Posted by: cstall...@omsys.com >> -- >> Reply via web post >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dita-users/conversations/messages/35135;_ylc=X3oDMTJyazl1dXY1BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNzQ0MjA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjAzMDM5MARtc2dJZAMzNTEzNQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNycGx5BHN0aW1lAzE0MDIxNzk5MzY-?act=reply&messageNum=35135> >> •Reply to sender >> >> •Reply to group >> >> •Start a New Topic >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dita-users/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJmb2Ztamo5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNzQ0MjA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjAzMDM5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNudHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MDIxNzk5MzY-> >> •Messages in this topic >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dita-users/conversations/topics/35135;_ylc=X3oDMTM3cGFzNHRkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNzQ0MjA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjAzMDM5MARtc2dJZAMzNTEzNQRzZWMDZnRyBHNsawN2dHBjBHN0aW1lAzE0MDIxNzk5MzYEdHBjSWQDMzUxMzU-> >> (1) >> Visit Your Group >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dita-users/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZm0zZzMwBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNzQ0MjA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjAzMDM5MARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2Z2hwBHN0aW1lAzE0MDIxNzk5MzY-> >> >>- New Members >> >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dita-users/members/all;_ylc=X3oDMTJnY2dlN3IzBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzEyNzQ0MjA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjAzMDM5MARzZWMDdnRsBHNsawN2bWJycwRzdGltZQMxNDAyMTc5OTM2> >>1 >> >> [image: Yahoo! Groups] >> <https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJldGVoMnFlBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzEyNzQ0MjA5BGdycHNwSWQDMTcwNjAzMDM5MARzZWMDZnRyBHNsawNnZnAEc3RpbWUDMTQwMjE3OTkzNg--> >> • Privacy <https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html> >> • Unsubscribe >> • Terms of >> Use <https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/> >> >> . >> >> __,_._,___ >> >> >> NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential >> information intended only for the use of the addressee >> named above. If you are not the intended recipient of >> this message you are hereby notified that you must not >> disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. >> If you have received this message in error please >> notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. >> Any views expressed in this message are those of the >> individual sender, except where the sender has the >> authority to issue and specifically states them to >> be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> > -- > Dr Alan Litchfield > Alphabyte > PO Box 1941 > Auckland > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Word Tables to Frame 12Tables
And don't forget Rick Quattro's excellent TableCleaner plugin, which can help make cleaning up Word tables ever so much easier. On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Second on that approach. > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Because the Word and FrameMaker table models are fundamentally so > different, > > I find that it is best to only import the content and nothing relating to > > the "tableness". From Word, first use the convert table to text command, > > then copy the tab-separated table contents. Paste the text into Frame and > > then use convert the table to text command to create a table with the > > appropriate table format applied. > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Keyboard shortcut to move into next footnote text flow?
There is no keyboard shortcut to jump from one footnote flow to the next. Maybe an Extendscript could save you some keystrokes? On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Harding, Dan wrote: > My apologies if I’m using incorrect terminology. > > > > When I start a chapter via importing from Word, there’s a fair amount of > cleanup work I have to do re: footnotes. If my cursor is in a footnote and > I want to jump to the next footnote (not to the footnote’s position in the > main text, but into the footnote text flow), is there a keyboard shortcut > for doing so? > > > > I have been able to search for the next footnote paragraph tag, and while > that works, (1) it’s multiple keystrokes, and more importantly (2) if the > source document was tagged inconsistently, the search will fail, jumping to > a subsequent footnote, meaning I still have to manually go through and fix > the outliers. > > > > I can fix #1 via AutoHotKey. #2 is a sticky problem. > > > > If there is a shortcut, I’m unaware of it, and if there is a better object > to search for than the paragraph tag, I’m also ignorant of that. > > > > I know that many people say to avoid importing from Word, but when you > have chapters that have 200-400 footnotes and as many index markers, trust > me, you do NOT want to have to manually redo all of those… > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > -Dan > > > > P.S. FM12 (TCS5) on Windows Enterprise 64-bit, if it makes a difference. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Automating table column width changes
Use Rick Quattro's TableCleaner plugin. If the tables are consistently tagged and all of them have to be the same sizes, you can use its Resize All Table Columns function. It's a life saver. On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > I’m converting the style of my documentation set (about 100 manuals), > and that means the column width of some single-cell tables ought to change. > They have unique and consistent table styles (there’s 3 types of them), and > they all have to be set to the same width. I’ve changed the table width in > the template, but the widths don’t change when I import formats. Copying > and pasting the column width is kind of tedious. Is my best bet an > ExtendScript script? > > > > I’m using FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7. > > > > Fei Min Lorente > > Senior Technical Communicator > > Medical and Wireless Division > > feimin.lore...@onsemi.com > > +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2297 | Waterloo office > > +1 519-831-4931 | mobile > > +1 905-631-5724 | fax > > www.onsemi.com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
If it were me, I'd copy one of the Australian ones into the "Find" box, then copy the one you want it to be into the Replace box, then click Change All, making sure Book is selected. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Theresa de Valence wrote: > I'm used to replacing smart quotes with straight quotes in documents I > receive but I've just received a document from an Australian writer, so > dialogue is indicated with single curved apostrophes: > U+02BB Modifier letter turned comma > U+02BC Modifier letter apostrophe > > How do I replace these with U+0027 in Frame? > > (I'm used to the ALT key sequences) > > Thanks, > Theresa > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Quoted speech
I'm surprised. Frame's usually so good about finding those weird things. OK, this part I'm not sure will work, but according to the help.adobe.com website, you can search for Unicode characters using their UTF-8 hex code and \x. So for your first character, in the Find box, type '\xCABB' (without the quote characters. For your second character, type '\xCABC' (without the quote characters. (I got the UTF-8 hex codes from http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode). I don't have any files using those codes, so I can't test it. :( Let me know if it works so I can put it into my bag of tricks, too. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote: > On 7/30/2014 11:58 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> If it were me, I'd copy one of the Australian ones into the "Find" box, >> then copy the one you want it to be into the Replace box, then click >> Change All, making sure Book is selected. >> > > For me that doesn't quite work. There's something in Frame which decides a > curved apostrophe is the same as an uncurved apostrophe. > > > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Copy Special for a Table Tag
Are you trying to change all the tables in a document from one table tag to another table tag, or are you trying to update all the properties of a particular table tag? If the first, you can do it using the Global Update option. 1. Put your cursor inside the one of the tables 2. Open Table Designer 3. Select the new table tag from the drop-down list 4. From the Commands drop-down, select Global Update options 5. Select "All Properties" and "All Tagged". Set All Tagged to the OLD table tag (the one you want to change FROM) 6. Click Update. Click OK to confirm that you want to change all the tables tagged with the OLD tag to the NEW tag. If the second, open the Table Designer, update the properties, and click Update All. All tables with the same tag will get the new properties. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Craig Ede wrote: > Sounds like a job for an ExtendScript. > > Craig > > -- > Subject: Copy Special for a Table Tag > From: dixit.ponnuk...@tcs.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:49:39 +0530 > > > Hi, > Just wanted to know if there is a way to apply the table properties > through the "Copy Special" option for a table tag in FrameMaker. > > Right now, I am handling a migration work where the existing content has > to be transformed to a different template. For which, this option would be > handy. > > Because if this is feasible, then I can use the Find/Replace - "By > Pasting" option and I will be able to convert all the tables in one go as > opposed to applying the table tag by individually selecting each table from > the document. > > Please advise. > > Thanks & Regards > Dixit Ponnukasu > > > =-=-= > Notice: The information contained in this e-mail > message and/or attachments to it may contain > confidential or privileged information. If you are > not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, > review, distribution, printing or copying of the > information contained in this e-mail message > and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If > you have received this communication in error, > please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and > immediately and permanently delete the message > and any attachments. Thank you > > > ___ You are currently > subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to > framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Copy Special for a Table Tag
Oh, yes, and it's possible that Rick Quattro's TableCleaner plugin would be useful. It has a few commands to do with applying one cell's (or table's) properties across all the tables in a single document. Highly recommended! On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > Are you trying to change all the tables in a document from one table tag > to another table tag, or are you trying to update all the properties of a > particular table tag? > > If the first, you can do it using the Global Update option. > > > 1. Put your cursor inside the one of the tables > 2. Open Table Designer > 3. Select the new table tag from the drop-down list > 4. From the Commands drop-down, select Global Update options > 5. Select "All Properties" and "All Tagged". Set All Tagged to the OLD > table tag (the one you want to change FROM) > 6. Click Update. Click OK to confirm that you want to change all the > tables tagged with the OLD tag to the NEW tag. > > If the second, open the Table Designer, update the properties, and click > Update All. All tables with the same tag will get the new properties. > > > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Craig Ede wrote: > >> Sounds like a job for an ExtendScript. >> >> Craig >> >> -- >> Subject: Copy Special for a Table Tag >> From: dixit.ponnuk...@tcs.com >> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:49:39 +0530 >> >> >> Hi, >> Just wanted to know if there is a way to apply the table properties >> through the "Copy Special" option for a table tag in FrameMaker. >> >> Right now, I am handling a migration work where the existing content has >> to be transformed to a different template. For which, this option would be >> handy. >> >> Because if this is feasible, then I can use the Find/Replace - "By >> Pasting" option and I will be able to convert all the tables in one go as >> opposed to applying the table tag by individually selecting each table from >> the document. >> >> Please advise. >> >> Thanks & Regards >> Dixit Ponnukasu >> >> >> =-=-= >> Notice: The information contained in this e-mail >> message and/or attachments to it may contain >> confidential or privileged information. If you are >> not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, >> review, distribution, printing or copying of the >> information contained in this e-mail message >> and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If >> you have received this communication in error, >> please notify us by reply e-mail or telephone and >> immediately and permanently delete the message >> and any attachments. Thank you >> >> >> ___ You are currently >> subscribed to framers as craig...@hotmail.com. Send list messages to >> framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/craigede%40hotmail.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. >> >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com >> >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Copy Special for a Table Tag
Yep. Fred's right. Which is (one of the many reasons) why Rick's plugin is so damned handy. It'll update all the cell formats and you can alter all the table widths. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > But note that not all properties of a table format are applied to an > existing table when you change it to a new format. Column widths, in > particular, are not changed after the fact; the column widths that are part > of a table format are only the defaults that are applied to a *new* table. > Same thing for the paragraph tags that are remembered for the heading row, > and the first row and column of the body; these are only the defaults that > will be applied to a new table. > > -Fred Ridder > > -- > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:46:29 -0400 > Subject: Re: Copy Special for a Table Tag > From: ljsims...@gmail.com > To: craig...@hotmail.com > CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com; dixit.ponnuk...@tcs.com > > > Are you trying to change all the tables in a document from one table tag > to another table tag, or are you trying to update all the properties of a > particular table tag? > > If the first, you can do it using the Global Update option. > > > 1. Put your cursor inside the one of the tables > 2. Open Table Designer > 3. Select the new table tag from the drop-down list > 4. From the Commands drop-down, select Global Update options > 5. Select "All Properties" and "All Tagged". Set All Tagged to the OLD > table tag (the one you want to change FROM) > 6. Click Update. Click OK to confirm that you want to change all the > tables tagged with the OLD tag to the NEW tag. > > If the second, open the Table Designer, update the properties, and click > Update All. All tables with the same tag will get the new properties. > > > > > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Craig Ede wrote: > > Sounds like a job for an ExtendScript. > > Craig > > -- > Subject: Copy Special for a Table Tag > From: dixit.ponnuk...@tcs.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 22:49:39 +0530 > > > > Hi, > Just wanted to know if there is a way to apply the table properties > through the "Copy Special" option for a table tag in FrameMaker. > > Right now, I am handling a migration work where the existing content has > to be transformed to a different template. For which, this option would be > handy. > > Because if this is feasible, then I can use the Find/Replace - "By > Pasting" option and I will be able to convert all the tables in one go as > opposed to applying the table tag by individually selecting each table from > the document. > > Please advise. > > Thanks & Regards > Dixit Ponnukasu > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Mif2Go suddenly failing on all machines
And if you do find a fix, let us know, just in case someone else runs into the same issue. On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Scott Prentice wrote: > If you don't get anything here, you might try the new mif2go list .. > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mif2go/info > > ...scott > > On 8/13/14 12:53 PM, John Sgammato wrote: > > Yesterday I was generating a bunch of XHTML output with Mif2Go, when > suddenly I started to fail with this error: > Mif2Go failed for file: C:\Project\Users_Roles.html > type 1, code 2, at: Wed Aug 13 15:46:36 2014 > Could not run DCL filter or other program. > File not found. > > It had worked fine just an hour before. Nothing had changed. > Nonetheless I rechecked all my environment variables and other common > issues; they were all good. > Restarting the machine did not fix it. A complete uninstall/reinstall of > Mif2Go did not fix it. > Today is does not work on two different computers with different files. > > Is anyone else experiencing this? > It's as if my license has been revoked or some similar global denial of > service. > > -- > > <http://www.actifio.com/>*John Sgammato, Documentation > Architect* > *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 > *t* @actifiodocs <http://twitter.com/actifiodocs> > > 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 ><http://twitter.com/actifio> > <http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246> > <https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts> > <http://www.youtube.com/user/actifio><http://www.actifio.com/> > > *Radically simple copy data management * > > *.* > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as s...@leximation.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp10%40leximation.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. > Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers < srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote: > On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs > instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? > > I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it > seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the > templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogers > wrote: > > If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... > > > > It gives you greater control over spacing and positioning, without having > to override the preceding paragraph's tag settings. > > -- > Stuart Rogers > Technical Communicator > Phoenix Geophysics Limited > 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 > Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 > http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > I would never have one table follow another without a heading or > explanatory text in between. > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting > each > > table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the > > same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning > or > > end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot > of > > documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so > > having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. > > > > Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to > > select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about > putting a > > space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And > (again) > > if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make > > the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your > > spacing all over again but for a different reason. > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers > > wrote: > >> > >> On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >> > >> What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs > >> instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? > >> > >> I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it > >> seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the > >> templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. > >> > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, "The following table describes X" when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > How do users find the one they're looking for? > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having > > text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP > has > > about 500 or so of them. > > > > As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston > > wrote: > >> > >> I would never have one table follow another without a heading or > >> explanatory text in between. > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> > I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and > putting > >> > each > >> > table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on > the > >> > same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the > beginning > >> > or > >> > end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a > lot > >> > of > >> > documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, > so > >> > having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. > >> > > >> > Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult > to > >> > select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about > >> > putting a > >> > space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And > >> > (again) > >> > if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can > >> > make > >> > the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up > >> > your > >> > spacing all over again but for a different reason. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >> >> > >> >> What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs > >> >> instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? > >> >> > >> >> I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it > >> >> seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the > >> >> templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other story.) Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple of pages, depending on the content.. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a > single-source environment, headings are more flexible. > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table > > upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it > easier to > > use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, > > vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of > > tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm > not > > about to say, "The following table describes X" when I've already said > it up > > above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. > > > > If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different > > audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. > In > > this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither > > necessary nor wanted. > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston > > wrote: > >> > >> How do users find the one they're looking for? > >> > >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> > I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in > having > >> > text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP > >> > has > >> > about 500 or so of them. > >> > > >> > As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. > >> > > >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston < > rob...@lauriston.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I would never have one table follow another without a heading or > >> >> explanatory text in between. > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims > wrote: > >> >> > I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and > >> >> > putting > >> >> > each > >> >> > table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all > on > >> >> > the > >> >> > same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the > >> >> > beginning > >> >> > or > >> >> > end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a > >> >> > lot > >> >> > of > >> >> > documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the > other, > >> >> > so > >> >> > having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. > >> >> > > >> >> > Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much > difficult > >> >> > to > >> >> > select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about > >> >> > putting a > >> >> > space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And > >> >> > (again) > >> >> > if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between > can > >> >> > make > >> >> > the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes > up > >> >> > your > >> >> > spacing all over again but for a different reason. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own > paragraphs > >> >> >> instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding > paragraph? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it > >> >> >> seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up > the > >> >> >> templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. > >> >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Lin Sims > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF query
Frame to PDF used to be the gold standard for PDF production. :( On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) < syed.hos...@aeris.net> wrote: > I reported a similar issue a short while back (wasn’t just images though – > it has problems with font colors, italic text messing up kerning and > spacing, etc.). > > > > The response from an Adobe person here was that the Save as PDF using CMYK > has a bug (that they have been able to reproduce). No fix indication yet. > > > > Anyway, I have also experienced problems with printing to the Adobe PDF > printer driver, so I am using “Save as PDF” to RGB for the moment for all > my review work. I plan to check the final PDF thoroughly before I send it > out … because I am not just comfortable with the quality of PDF generation > from FrameMaker at this point. > > > > Z > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Denis Daly > *Sent:* Friday, October 17, 2014 5:31 AM > *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* PDF query > > > > Hi, > > > > My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker. > > > > I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and > about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the > ‘Graphics’ folder. > > > > I resaved and the same thing happened. > > > > I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images > were present. > > > > I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed. > > > > Can anyone explain this behaviour, please? > > > > Kind regards, > > *Denis Daly* > > Technical Writer > > > > [image: ICPNT Simple Logo White - Small] > > *Kilbrittain, Bandon, Co. Cork, IRELAND > <http://www.myloc8ion.com/index.php/maps/find_code8/?code=WLF-17-68G>* > > > > Mobile: +353 86 3539962 > > Phone: +353 21 2439119/140 > > Fax: +353 21 2380559 > > Info: www.icpnewtech.com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: . PDF query
My recollection may be faulty, but I seem to recall Dov Isaacs saying the issues with Save As PDF had been fixed a while ago. Now if they can just fix the broken Esc keyboard shortcuts. Lin On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote: > Since I started seriously learning FrameMaker (7.0) I have always been > advised against using SaveAs PDF but instead print to file using whatever > the name has been each version of the Adobe PostScript printer engine. > Takes af few more clicks but saves a lot of trouble. > > Still do it several versions higher. > > Regards, > > Bodvar Bjorgvinsson > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Davis, David < > david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com> wrote: > >> Dennis, >> You're not the first person to report this problem. >> I doubt you're doing anything wrong, it's just FrameMaker being buggy. >> I'd encourage you to report it at Adobe's bug report page >> https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform >> >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 12:31:14 + >> From: Denis Daly >> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" >> Subject: PDF query >> Message-ID: >> < >> e2684a3ed8374ac79e0450223f494...@am3pr01mb0646.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com >> > >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi, >> >> My name is Denis Daly. I have recently started using FrameMaker. >> >> I have had an odd issue today. I saved an individual chapter as a PDF and >> about 40% of the images were not present. They are available in the >> 'Graphics' folder. >> >> I resaved and the same thing happened. >> >> I then saved a third time but selected RGB instead of CYMK; all images >> were present. >> >> I am using FM 12 with the recent update installed. >> >> Can anyone explain this behaviour, please? >> >> >> *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or >> attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it >> is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally >> privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its >> status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then >> delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for >> any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email >> comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, >> which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered >> office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered >> number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys >> Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys >> Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. >> >> You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail >> recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be >> subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its >> subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and >> affiliates). >> ___ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain PDFs (WAS: Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs)
Out of curiousity, Allison, why are you printing the Visio graphics to PDF and then importing them into a Frame file that is printed to PDF? Embedding a PDF file into a file that is going to be printed to PDF tends to drastically increase the size of the file being distilled. Given that your testing has pretty much narrowed down the issue to pages with embedded PDF images/graphics, I'd strongly suggest seeing if a different image format would do what you need. Is it necessary that they be PDF, or could another searchable format such as SVG (now that Adobe has fixed the SVG to PDF but) be used instead? On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > I thought I recalled Dov Isaacs explaining this as a Windows problem, > rather than a FrameMaker problem. I found the following quote from him > online, which appears to reference what was later called the fntcache.dat > bug (and fixed with a hotfix and, later, Windows update), and a Windows bug > relating to large page sizes and large fonts. I don't know if that one was > ever fixed and may still require setting a lower dpi as a workaround. (I > would note that I have no text or image dropout at 1200 dpi on Windows 7.) > > NOTE: The following is a 10-year old quote: > "(2) There is a known problem with FrameMaker under Windows only in which > text may disappear from the output page (i.e., selective text dropout) when > printing to PostScript devices, including Acrobat Distiller. Unfortunately, > the problem is NOT reproducible from system to system or document to > document either user sites or within Adobe itself. What we do know is that > the larger the logical page size in combination with higher resolution > settings aggravates the problems (i.e., makes it more likely that you will > actually see the symptom). It is for this reason that we most strongly > recommend that you NEVER use a Windows PostScript printer driver setting > higher than 600 dpi with FrameMaker. If necessary to print to a higher > resolution device, create PDF first (with the Adobe Distiller / Adobe PDF > PostScript printer driver instance set to no more than 600 dpi) and then do > the final print from Acrobat / Adobe Reader to the actual print device. In > the rare instances where there is still selective text dropout, set the > driver resolution to 300 dpi. We know of no situations in which the > selective text dropout persists at the 300 dpi setting. What are the > ramifications of the lower resolution settings? The resolution of image > data is not downsampled or degraded by this resolution setting. Nor is any > damage done to vector graphics or the quality of text. What it does control > for FrameMaker is the granularity of spacing, especially of text. Setting > 600 dpi permits "only" 600 starting positions per inch and interword > spacing in 1/600 inch increments. Images and vector graphics positioning is > likewise limited to such increments. At 300 dpi, the value falls to 300 > starting positions and 1/300 inch increments. Anything under 300 dpi is > absolutely not recommended and could yield some rather gnarly text spacing. > Again, we recommend you start at 600 dpi and stay with that if you have no > problems. (Note also that 600 dpi gets around another Windows GDI bug in > which text formatted in larger point sizes is converted to unhinted > outlines. 600 dpi allow for text in pointsizes up to approximately 100 > points to remain as text for printing purposes.)" > On 10/25/2014 10:40 AM, Heiko Haida wrote: > >> >> Hi Alison, >> >> I also had problems to print some single pages to PDF in a larger DIN A3 >> format: The content was displayed partially, the page was not completely >> shown (without error message). >> First I thought the graphic files were corrupt, as taking out the >> graphics would at least produce a PDF. >> >> Then I found that the distiller profile was set to 2400 dpi, and after >> reducing this to 1200 dpi everything was fine. >> I don't like it, but it seems FM has some internal memory problems here. >> >> Maybe this also applies to your problem. >> >> Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin >> >> >> > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___
Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain PDFs (WAS: Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs)
The SVG bug (which only prevented being able to search text in SVG graphics imported into Frame and then distilled to PDF) was fixed in the latest patch update to FM12. I admit I am not going by direct experience regarding the use of PDF as a graphic format. One of my coworkers has been forced to embed single-page PDFs into Frame files for a particular document set she works on. She was the one who said that the file size bloated from that. The files were output from a database, and she was adding 50 or so to a book. I think she had to break the chapter she was adding them to into multiple files in order to get it to distill properly. I don't think I've ever heard that the preferred workflow was to create a graphic, save it as PDF, and then import it into a Frame file that was going to be PDFed. That seems ... odd to me for some reason, but that may just be me. :-) Good luck, On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Craig, Alison wrote: > In what version of Frame is the SVG problem fixed? I’m using FM9. > > > > As for why I use the PDFs (from Visio), I was under the impression that > this was a recommended workflow. And I’ve never seen anyone mention that > including PDF images in the book bloats the final Frame PDF or I might have > looked for an alternative before. > > > > The interesting things is, I have been using this method for years with > the same book files and have never had a problem before. In fact, when I > built PDF files for review in mid-September, there wasn’t a single > hesitation. The PDFs the *Print to Book…* option first encounter were not > edited between mid-September and when I encountered the problem last week. > > > > I spent a lot of time thinking over the weekend and remember an issue I > had with Pantone warning re: mismatched “definitions”. I cannot recall how > I made this go away – or if I actually did anything at all – so I’m going > to run a few tests. > > > > Cross your fingers for me. > > > > Alison > > > > *Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead * > > Ultrasonix | 130-4311 Viking Way | Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | > analogicultrasound.com <http://www.analogicultrasound.com> > > *T 604-279-8550 ext 127 <604-279-8550%20ext%20127> | F 604-279-8559 > <604-279-8559>* > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lin Sims > *Sent:* Monday, October 27, 2014 6:09 AM > *To:* Mike Wickham > *Cc:* Frame Users > *Subject:* Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain > PDFs (WAS: Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs) > > > > Out of curiousity, Allison, why are you printing the Visio graphics to PDF > and then importing them into a Frame file that is printed to PDF? Embedding > a PDF file into a file that is going to be printed to PDF tends to > drastically increase the size of the file being distilled. > > Given that your testing has pretty much narrowed down the issue to pages > with embedded PDF images/graphics, I'd strongly suggest seeing if a > different image format would do what you need. Is it necessary that they be > PDF, or could another searchable format such as SVG (now that Adobe has > fixed the SVG to PDF but) be used instead? > > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Mike Wickham > wrote: > > I thought I recalled Dov Isaacs explaining this as a Windows problem, > rather than a FrameMaker problem. I found the following quote from him > online, which appears to reference what was later called the fntcache.dat > bug (and fixed with a hotfix and, later, Windows update), and a Windows bug > relating to large page sizes and large fonts. I don't know if that one was > ever fixed and may still require setting a lower dpi as a workaround. (I > would note that I have no text or image dropout at 1200 dpi on Windows 7.) > > NOTE: The following is a 10-year old quote: > "(2) There is a known problem with FrameMaker under Windows only in which > text may disappear from the output page (i.e., selective text dropout) when > printing to PostScript devices, including Acrobat Distiller. Unfortunately, > the problem is NOT reproducible from system to system or document to > document either user sites or within Adobe itself. What we do know is that > the larger the logical page size in combination with higher resolution > settings aggravates the problems (i.e., makes it more likely that you will > actually see the symptom). It is for this reason that we most strongly > recommend that you NEVER use a Windows PostScript printer driver setting > higher than 600 dpi with FrameMaker. If necessary to print to a higher > resolution device, create PDF first (with the Adobe Distiller / Adobe PDF &g
Re: A giggle from the Adobe website
Why do things go pear-shaped? Why not rhombus-shaped, or even watermelon-shaped? Or artichoke--then you get an odd shaped that's all prickly, too. On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Helen Borrie wrote: > Pat Christenson wrote: > > I was visiting Adobe's website earlier and noticed that when you sign up, > you have to make a choice from the list of Job Titles. One of the choices > is End User. > > Really? That's a job title? ;-) > > At 07:19 a.m. 28/10/2014, Writer wrote: > > >It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. > > > >I hear the pay sucks, too. > > And don't we *always* get the blame when something goes pear-shaped? > > Helen > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: pear shaped RE: A giggle from the Adobe website
Too late! On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Craig Ede wrote: > I thought it was the fear of all technical writers that over the years > working at a desk we all will go pear shaped. (Heads up! This is not an > irrational fear!) > > C- > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain
Then I guess it's just me ... On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Davis, David < david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com> wrote: > A PDF file of a Visio diagram is more or less just a bunch of PostScript > instructions telling the computer to draw some lines and shapes. > That's a good efficient easily-portable non-lossy way to represent a > vector diagram. > Nothing odd about it! > David > > > On Monday, October 27, 2014 3:29 PM, Lin Sims > wrote: > > > I don't think I've ever heard that the preferred workflow was to create a > graphic, save it as PDF, and then import it into a Frame file that was > going to be PDFed. That seems ... odd to me for some reason, but that may > just be me. :-) > > ___ > > *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or > attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it > is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally > privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its > status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then > delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for > any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email > comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, > which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered > office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered > number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys > Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys > Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. > > You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail > recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be > subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its > subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and > affiliates). > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Mixed Structured / Unstructured and xrefs
Bare bones background: We have Excel spreadsheets that we convert to XML files using a script. The script also creates a ditamap for all the files and creates an XML file that contains a table that links to all the individual XML files. We use DITAFMx to convert the ditamap and XML files to a single FM file (still in structured). At this point, the xrefs work just fine. Here's the tricky part. I then import (by copy) the newly created FM files into an UNSTRUCTURED FM file (because that's what the rest of the book is in, and no, this is not currently an option to change, don't even ask, it's a MESS), which is opened in FM with the structured interface so that the structured information can be retained. As soon as I copy those files into the container (unstructured) file, the xrefs break. I need those xrefs to NOT break, and I don't have time to relink 500 or so xrefs every time I create this book. I've tried this on the FM install on my desktop, which uses the structured interface but is NOT in a DITA/structured environment, and the FM install on a server, which uses the structured interface and IS in a DITA/Structured environment. If I open the files on their own, they're fine. If I import them into the unstructured document, the links go bye-bye and I can't regenerate them. I'm beyond frustrated. Any clues would be appreciated. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Mixed Structured / Unstructured and xrefs
Yep, the file I'm importing to has no structure. I'm going to try adding it and then importing again. As to why, the highly condensed Readers Digest version is that the company was moving to DITA using Frame, DITA-FMx, and a CCMS called Vasont. Then we got bought. My engineers wanted to be able to edit the files while I was on vacation, amongst other things, so someone higher up in the chain of command demanded we pull the files out of structured and into unstructured, which is where they are. The last time I had to do this, I jerked the XML file with the cross-references out. The spreadsheets, however, are still being converted into XML files because it's a perl script which can write XML just fine but knows nothing of FM binary or even MIF. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Scott Prentice wrote: > Lin... > > It's likely breaking because the cross-refs are linking to "elements" in > the original files, then when you paste into an unstructured file, there > are no elements to link to. You'd need to run some process before pasting > into the unstructured file which iterates over all cross-refs and relinks > them to paras or markers instead of elements. > > I know you said not to ask .. but I'm not sure why you're converting the > structured files into unstructured files. It's OK to have a book that > contains both types of files (may not be a "best practice" but should > work). As long as you're dealing with FM binary files, not XML files, you > can mix and match as needed. Have you tried just adding the structured > files to the book? You will need to enable the structured interface in FM > in order to do this, but that should not have any adverse effect on your > files. It's perfectly fine to edit unstructured files in the structured > interface. > > Hope that helps. > > ...scott > > On 10/30/14 1:53 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > >Bare bones background: > > We have Excel spreadsheets that we convert to XML files using a script. > The script also creates a ditamap for all the files and creates an XML file > that contains a table that links to all the individual XML files. > > We use DITAFMx to convert the ditamap and XML files to a single FM file > (still in structured). At this point, the xrefs work just fine. > > Here's the tricky part. I then import (by copy) the newly created FM > files into an UNSTRUCTURED FM file (because that's what the rest of the > book is in, and no, this is not currently an option to change, don't even > ask, it's a MESS), which is opened in FM with the structured interface so > that the structured information can be retained. > > As soon as I copy those files into the container (unstructured) file, the > xrefs break. I need those xrefs to NOT break, and I don't have time to > relink 500 or so xrefs every time I create this book. > > I've tried this on the FM install on my desktop, which uses the > structured interface but is NOT in a DITA/structured environment, and the > FM install on a server, which uses the structured interface and IS in a > DITA/Structured environment. > > If I open the files on their own, they're fine. If I import them into the > unstructured document, the links go bye-bye and I can't regenerate them. > > I'm beyond frustrated. Any clues would be appreciated. > > -- > Lin Sims > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Fameusers: Mixed Structured / Unstructured and xrefs
Orly, Chip registers are EXACTLY what those structured files are. This is my first go around with using a mixed environment. What I've wound up doing is keeping the structured generated files separate instead of trying to copy them into the unstructured chapter file, and setting numbering to Use Same Number as Previous Chapter. It messes the white spaces up somewhat, but the xrefs work properly. Just as well, too, since the designers use the same addresses for the different blocks and trying to keep it in structured means that some of the xrefs won't work if they're combined into the same file. On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 1:25 AM, Orly Zimmerman wrote: > HI Lin, > > We have a similar process, where we generate FM files from XML sources for > our chip register files. They are structured FM files. The functional specs > for the same book are unstructured files. We run FM in structured mode. > > Auto cross ref’s work as they should – assuming they have the right > elements to refer to. > > The files exist together fine in the structured environment. I had to > tweak the headers on the Master pages to get the TOC right, but that works > ok too. > > If you already have the files in structured FM with all the links working, > I don’t see why you can’t have them co-exist with the unstructured files in > FM. The engineers can get used to structured FM. Maybe create a small > training session for them. > > HTH, > > Orly > -- > > Orly Zimmerman, Marvell Israel - Technical Communicator > Park Azorim, Kyriat Arie > Petah Tikva, 49527, Israel > Email: or...@marvell.com > Office: +972.3.9703440 - OnNet: 705.3440 > Fax: +972.3.9704908 > Web site: http://www.marvell.com > > > This message may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged > information. The information is intended only for the use of the individual > or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received > this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or > by e-mail and delete the message from your computer. > -- > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Break link in graphics imported by reference in FM 12?
Finalizer, from SQUIDDS, has a module that does this called Imported Graphics <http://www.finalyser.com/help/#page/Imported%2520graphic/imported_graphic.xml.1.1.html>. Not sure how much it costs, though. I haven't used FM12 yet, but there might be ExtendScripts that will do what you want. Prior discussion on this list has suggested that Frame has issues with graphics that are located "far away" from it. It times out while trying to fetch the graphics. There may be a good solution to it, but after a rough couple of days, I don't remember what it might be. :( On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Studio Smalbro wrote: > I am running FrameMaker 12 and I have a lot of trouble with generating pdf > files. I believe the problem arises from having pages with graphics > imported by reference - but graphics which are stored on different servers. > It seems that FrameMaker has trouble with handling the links to the servers > in the printing process. > > I would like to break the links and have the graphics embedded - but is > there a way to change from "referenced" to "embedded" without having to > re-import the graphics? > > Regards > Bjørn > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Persist a variable to the next file
Can you copy & paste the code you have in your variable and send it to the list? On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM, wrote: > Good afternoon, guys.. > > I have a book that uses the variable "Running H/F 1" in my footer that > picks up Chapter Title. > > The hierarchy is Chapter Title, Heading 1, Heading 2, etc,. > > The problem is, for the sections that follow Chapter Title that start with > Heading 1, the variable displays blank. > > The question is, how to I get Chapter Title to persist until changed by the > next Chapter Title? > > John X Posada > AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics > | HSBC North America Holdings Inc > 330 Madison Ave., NY NY > > ___ > > > > > > Phone > Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal cellphone - 732-259-2874 > Mobile > Company Blackberry - 224-600-0570 > Email > john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com > > ___ > Protect our environment - please only print this if you have > to! > > > > > > > - > ** > This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. If > you are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose or > use any part of it. If you have received this message in error, > please delete it and all copies from your system and notify the > sender immediately by return E-mail. > > Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure, > error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for any > errors or omissions. > ** > SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Persist a variable to the next file
OK, that was about what I thought. The short answer is, you can't do it with a RunningH/F, as it only picks up the information in the CURRENT file. If you want to bring the Chapter title over from a previous file, you'll have to edit the master page to use a cross-reference back to the file with the title in it (and set the link color to black so it doesn't look like a link). Then you have to remember that this will need to be redone every time you import page layouts to those files. On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 5:14 PM, wrote: > Nothing complicated about it: > > <$paratext[ChapterTitle]> > > I don't think the issue is the composition of the variable...it works fine > when the page has a paragraph tag Chapter Title. The issue is when the > para text doesn't appear in the FM file, but does in a previous file that I > want to carry forward. > > John X Posada > AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & Analytics > | HSBC North America Holdings Inc > 330 Madison Ave., NY NY > > ___ > > > > > > Phone > Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal cellphone - 732-259-2874 > Mobile > Company Blackberry - 224-600-0570 > Email > john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com > > ___ > Protect our environment - please only print this if you have > to! > > > > > > |> > | From: | > |> > > >--| > |Lin Sims > > | > > >--| > |> > | To:| > |> > > >--| > |John X Posada/HBUS/HSBC@HSBC02 > > | > > >--| > |> > | Cc:| > |> > > >--| > |Frame Users > > | > > >--| > |> > | Date: | > |> > > >--| > |12/08/2014 05:01 PM >| > > >--| > |> > | Subject: | > |> > > >--| > |Re: Persist a variable to the next file >| > > >--| > > > > > > Can you copy & paste the code you have in your variable and send it to the > list? > > On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM, wrote: > Good afternoon, guys.. > > I have a book that uses the variable "Running H/F 1" in my footer that > picks up Chapter Title. > > The hierarchy is Chapter Title, Heading 1, Heading 2, etc,. > > The problem is, for the sections that follow Chapter Title that start > with > Heading 1, the variable displays blank. > > The question is, how to I get Chapter Title to persist until changed by > the > next Chapter Title? > > John X Posada > AML Syst & Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC & RC Systems Control & > Analytics > | HSBC North America Holdings Inc > 330 Madison Ave., NY NY > >___ > > > > > >Phone > Int: 212-525-5483 Ext: Personal cellphone - 732-259-2874 >Mobile > Company Blackberry - 224-600-0570 >Email > joh
Re: Question for the Group: Create a Conditionalized or Hierarchical Book
Hi Tony, Pretty much what Laura said. I maintain multiple guides that can have different chapters depending on whether the information is for one customer or another. I have what I call a "master book file" that contains all the files (this has to do with our CMS and locating stuff, you may not need it), including the separate book files for each version of the book. Chapters in common between books may have conditional text or variables to further customize. Each book has a separate document information file that records the chapters contained in the book, the variables used and their values, and the condition set up for producing a final. When I want to create a specific book, I open the master book file, open the specific book file, open all the files in the book, open the document information file, import conditional text settings and variables from the document information file into all the book files, and generate. Good luck. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:18 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) wrote: > > I currently need to create a new non-structured book in Frame 12 that will > have one of three possible outputs (to .pdf). I’m looking for advice on > the best way to create and maintain the project. > > > > To simplify the problem: previously we had the Product A user manual and > the Product B user manual – maintained and distributed separately. These > manuals are each at about 15 chapters and 800+ pages each, with little or > no overlapping content. > > > > Now, my company has merged the two products into an optional third > product, so that we have three possible product permutations (and manuals): > Product A, Product B and now the new Product C (which consists of all of > the components/chapters from both A+B). > > > > So my question is: what is the best way to merge the two document sets so > that I can publish Manual A, Manual B or Manual C (A+B), depending on the > customer. > > > > Should I conditionalize all the chapters under one book – so that I would > only display and publish the appropriate chapters based on the customer — > e.g. publish chapters set to Condition A, Condition B, or both conditions > for Product C? Or should I use the hierarchical book structure and then > add/delete the subordinate book depending on the customer release? > > > > I have no experience with hierarchical books so I’m not sure what the > benefits or drawbacks are. > > > > I could also simply add/delete the appropriate A/B chapters from the > master book manually – but with 30+ chapters, this seems like it could be > prone to mistakes in publishing the correct content. > > > > Any suggestions will be much appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > ~Tony > > > > ~ ~ ~ > > > > *This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If it > has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the > error and then immediately permanently delete it and all attachments to it > from your systems. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, > copy, disclose or otherwise use this message or any attachments to it. The > sender disclaims any liability for such unauthorized use. PLEASE NOTE that > all incoming e-mails sent to PDF e-mail accounts will be archived and may > be scanned by us and/or by external service providers to detect and prevent > threats to our systems, investigate illegal or inappropriate behavior, > and/or eliminate unsolicited promotional e-mails (“spam”). If you have any > concerns about this process, please contact us at * > *legal.departm...@pdf.com* *.* > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting Variables at the Book Level
Has Electropubs come back online? The last time I tried the site, it was gone. If it is, then Clean Import is no longer available. Which is sad, as it was a very useful utility. On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:53 PM, David Spreadbury wrote: > > Tony, > You need the Clean Import plugin. You manually clean up on chapter in the > book, then run Clean Import against the rest of the book and you are done. > Works with para tags, char tags, cond text, etc. > > > > On Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:36 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) < > tony.ma...@pdf.com> wrote: > > > Hello all – Second question in one week: > Is there any easy way to delete obsolete variables from the variables > library at the book level (Frame 12)? > > I’m trying to create a consistent list of variables across all chapters in > a book and I can’t find a way to do the deletions except > chapter-by-chapter. Importing variables from one up-to-date chapter to > others does not perform any deletions of variables not on the source/master > file. > > Thanks, > ~Tony > > > ~ ~ ~ > > > *This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If it > has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the > error and then immediately permanently delete it and all attachments to it > from your systems. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, > copy, disclose or otherwise use this message or any attachments to it. The > sender disclaims any liability for such unauthorized use. PLEASE NOTE that > all incoming e-mails sent to PDF e-mail accounts will be archived and may > be scanned by us and/or by external service providers to detect and prevent > threats to our systems, investigate illegal or inappropriate behavior, > and/or eliminate unsolicited promotional e-mails (“spam”). If you have any > concerns about this process, please contact us at * > *legal.departm...@pdf.com* *.* > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deleting Variables at the Book Level
I'm not allowed to install it at work. :-( Got it at home, though, with FM8. On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 4:15 PM, David Spreadbury wrote: > > Ah, but those of us that hung onto the file still get to utilize it. I > recently upgraded to FM12 and installed it. Wouldn't be the same without it. > > > On Thursday, December 18, 2014 3:06 PM, Lin Sims > wrote: > > > Has Electropubs come back online? The last time I tried the site, it was > gone. If it is, then Clean Import is no longer available. > > Which is sad, as it was a very useful utility. > > On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 3:53 PM, David Spreadbury > wrote: > > Tony, > You need the Clean Import plugin. You manually clean up on chapter in the > book, then run Clean Import against the rest of the book and you are done. > Works with para tags, char tags, cond text, etc. > > > > On Thursday, December 18, 2014 2:36 PM, Tony Marek (PDF) < > tony.ma...@pdf.com> wrote: > > > Hello all – Second question in one week: > Is there any easy way to delete obsolete variables from the variables > library at the book level (Frame 12)? > > I’m trying to create a consistent list of variables across all chapters in > a book and I can’t find a way to do the deletions except > chapter-by-chapter. Importing variables from one up-to-date chapter to > others does not perform any deletions of variables not on the source/master > file. > > Thanks, > ~Tony > > > ~ ~ ~ > > > *This message may contain confidential and privileged information. If it > has been sent to you in error, please reply to advise the sender of the > error and then immediately permanently delete it and all attachments to it > from your systems. If you are not the intended recipient, do not read, > copy, disclose or otherwise use this message or any attachments to it. The > sender disclaims any liability for such unauthorized use. PLEASE NOTE that > all incoming e-mails sent to PDF e-mail accounts will be archived and may > be scanned by us and/or by external service providers to detect and prevent > threats to our systems, investigate illegal or inappropriate behavior, > and/or eliminate unsolicited promotional e-mails (“spam”). If you have any > concerns about this process, please contact us at * > *legal.departm...@pdf.com* *.* > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Wildcard search
Hi Roger, Frame10 comes with a sample Extend script that will MIF wash all the files in a book. I suspect it's included in 11, also. You could try that and see if the MIF files are kept. If the script deletes them, you can probably modify it so that it doesn't, and then you'll at least be able to modify the MIF files. If you're handy with scripts, you can probably adapt the sample script so that it'll convert MIF files back to FM for you. (That's just a suspicion on my part; I don't script, so I don't know if it's possible or easy to do. But it's a thought!) On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Roger Shuttleworth wrote: > Hi David > > Thanks for your reply. Either option would work to some extent, but there > will be some work involved. Hyphens are intended in certain phrases, e.g. > state-of-the-art. And I have a lot of files, so saving as MIF would be a > pain. Pity; I was hoping to do something at the book level, but it seems to > be not an option. > > I could save as Word docs, make the changes, then reopen in FM. (No, I'm > kidding!) > > Roger > > On 29/12/2014 4:10 PM, David Artman wrote: > >> Roger, do you have many instances where a hyphen *is* intended? If not, >> you could brute-force replace all then go back and tune those you >> didn't want replaced (e.g., if they're, say, part numbers in a handful >> of tables). >> Alternately, export to MIF and use any programmer's text editor (e.g., >> Notepad++) to do a regular expression search and replace, similar to >> your Word example. Then open MIF and re-save as FM. >> HTH; >> David >> >> Original Message >> From: Roger Shuttleworth > <mailto:shutti...@gmail.com>> >> Date: Mon, December 29, 2014 9:23 am >> >> Hello All >> >> I'm using FrameMaker 11. >> >> I have a document containing a lot of number ranges that use a hyphen >> instead of an en-dash; for example, 1-3. I'd like to replace the >> hyphen >> while preserving the preceding and following numbers. >> >> In Word I'd use a wildcard search for ([0-9])-([0-9]) and replace with >> \1-\2, where \1 and \2 represent the values in the parentheses (and >> sorry, I can't type an en-dash in this message). When I try this >> with FM >> it doesn't find anything. >> >> How do you preserve the values in FM? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Roger Shuttleworth >> >> ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ > ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Please Unsubscribe
Enjoy your retirement. Unsubscribe instructions are at the bottom of your email. You send a blank email to: framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Flora, Lynn wrote: > I will be retiring in 2 weeks. Please remove my name from the Frame > users list. I’ve enjoyed all the information I’ve received over the years. > > > > flor...@westinghouse.com > > > > Thanks you! > > > > Lynn Flora > > Web Content Specialist > > Technical and Online Publishing Services (TOPS) > > > > Westinghouse Electric Company > > 1000 Westinghouse Drive > > Cranberry Township, PA 16066 > > > > Phone: +1 (412) 702-1432 > > Fax: +1 (412) 940-8512 > > Email: flor...@westinghouse.com > > Home Page: www.westinghousenuclear.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > This e-mail may contain proprietary information of the sending > organization. Any unauthorized or improper disclosure, copying, > distribution, or use of the contents of this e-mail and attached > document(s) is prohibited. The information contained in this e-mail and > attached document(s) is intended only for the personal and private use of > the recipient(s) named above. If you have received this communication in > error, please notify the sender immediately by email and delete the > original e-mail and attached document(s). > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review
Acrobat X doesn't support using a web-based email for sending Shared Review invitations. It does let you manually send invitations, but I've not been able to find actual instructions for how to do that. The situation is complicated by the fact that I am using WebDAV and a cloud storage service for collecting the review comments. I'm assuming that what you do is attach the review file to an email and send it on with whatever information is required, but you know what they say about assumptions. I'm also wondering what, if anything, will happen if a reviewer tried to open the folder Acrobat creates for storing comments on the cloud server. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review
Hi all, I worked with Box a lot yesterday (that's the "cloud-based storage" I mentioned), and with some experimentation and testing aid from two of the designers I support, I figured out how to do Shared Reviews with Box as a WebDAV server. I have to say, I was almost unreasonably excited when we got it to work. I'm trying to generalize what we worked out so I can update this thread with the solution if anyone is interested, but that may take a few days. Thanks to all who supplied suggestions and information. This list rocks. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Zimmerman, Gary < gary.zimmer...@teradata.com> wrote: > > > *When you do a server-based shared review, each reviewer's comments are > actually stored separate from the review PDF, in separate XML files that > are somehow linked to the PDF document. That’s why you can have multiple > reviewers reviewing and marking up the document at the same time.* > > > > *If you use the option to save an "archive" copy of the file, the comments > existing at the moment are all "flattened" into the PDF file that is saved, > as regular PDF-based comments and markup.* > > > > *Not sure how that's handled with email-distributed review copies going to > reviewers who don't have access to the server where all the XML files are > stored.* > > > > *-- garyZ* > > > > > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Heiko Haida > *Sent:* Monday, January 26, 2015 2:25 PM > *To:* Fred Ridder > *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* RE: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review > > > > Hi Fred, > > I was also thinking of the fact that Acrobat will use a PDF file with some > modifications, like the comment function readied for Adobe Reader, not the > original file. > (This is a useful service and you would have to keep this in mind if your > doing it without Acrobat.) > > But you are right, of course it is possible to share the file and start a > review-cycle the old-fashioned way, only -- probably -- this will not be so > "effortless". > To me, the server-based workflow seems to be better suited for a quick and > efficient review than the email-based workflow. > > Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin > > > > Fred Ridder: > > I don't think that's entirely true, Tino. > You can still do a email-based PDF review with an unsupported mail system, > but it's not automatic and it probably won't be integrated back to the > FrameMaker source (I don't know about this last because I've never tried > it). > The process involves exporting the comments from the PDF that each > reviewer sends and then importing those comments into the master review > PDF. Look in the Options menu for the Comments List section of the Comments > tool palette (or whatevertheheck Adobe calls it...) for the "Export All as > Data File" and "Import Data File" commands. > Not ideal, but it works, particularly if you keep the master file up to > date and in a shared location, and all the reviewers are good about > grabbing the latest copy of the master file before starting to add their > own comments. > > -Fred Ridder > -- > > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 21:50:17 +0100 > From: i...@heiko-haida.de > To: ljsims...@gmail.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Acrobat X: Manually sending a Shared Review > > Hi Lin, > if Acrobat does not recognize the email client (like when a web-based > email is used), you cannot send the file specially prepared for the review, > which means that you cannot use the email review process at all (as far as > I understand it). > You would not be able to store your PDF file in the specific format that > is necessary for the workflow; e.g. to collect all comments in one final > version at the end of one review cycle, Acrobat has to recognize the files > as "original" or "commented" versions of one review process. (...I guess.) > There are two other options for a workflow which is not email-based but > server-based: > 1) A server-path is available for all reviewers (could be WebDAV) > 2) acrobat.com could be used as a "server" (Adobe ID required for setup) > In both cases the reviewers would either work with the server copy, or > work with local copies, where each comment is automatically transfered to > the server copy. This way, all comments are visible immediately for all > reviewers and can also be answered, which can be very useful (connection to > server-path/internet must be available to "publish" the comments). This &
Frameusers Website and Fuzzy Buttons in Frame 12
Anyone know if Brad is still maintaining this? I was just there hoping to do a search through the email archives, and they don't appear to exist anymore. I was trying to find a thread I could have sworn I'd read on this list about Frame 12 having a "fuzzy" interface, along with an eventual fix. Anyone remember either the thread or the fix? Thanks, -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
NOT a "How Do I". Query re conditionaling table columns
Playing with Frame12's (yes, we FINALLY got to upgrade) new conditional tag interface, and something occurred to me that has before but I never got around to asking. WHY can't Frame apply conditional tags to table columns? It's not a feature I particularly need (although there's been a time or two it would have come in right handy), but I've been curious about this for a while. I'm guessing it has something to do with the original internal structure, so I'm hoping those who have been long time users might have some insight. I don't need an answer fast. :) Technically, I don't need an answer at all, but I'm still curious. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: NOT a "How Do I". Query re conditionaling table columns
The problem is that if you have a LOT of rows, it won't work. On Fri, Feb 6, 2015 at 10:15 AM, David Artman wrote: > While we're talking underlying theory/structure: I suspect many tables in > which one wants to conditionalize a column could be refactored so that the > columns were instead rows, which are conditionable. > > Thoughts? > > Yes, theoretically, if you didn't have spanned cells, you could > hide/show the cells that make up a column, but since there is no "column" > object, there's no place to assign that data. You can conditionalize rows, > but cells are a bit of a different beast. > > It would be possible to make a plugin or script that would assign a > condition to the content of all cells in a column, but you'd have to > actually delete the cells that make up that column to "hide" it. > > The closest thing to a column object that you could assign a property to > for this purpose would be the "colspec" element in DITA. But in looking, > that doesn't allow the outputclass attribute (or other likely attributes) > where you'd assign a value that you could check for during some publishing > process to hide/delete that column. > > If I were to want to do this, I'd probably set a marker in the column > header to indicate a hide/show property, then set up some sort of process > during publishing. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
FM12: PDF file size exploding
Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version of FM to FM12)? I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and that's AFTER running the Save as Reduced Size. Is this a bug, have I not set something up in either FM12 or Acrobat 10 correctly, or is there a solution? Thanks, -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage site. There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is using corporate GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for now I have to attach a shared review enabled PDF to an email to allow reviewers to join the review*. Admittedly, this one file isn't going to break either of those limits, but it's not something I can keep doing for a long period of time. Plus the sudden increase in size worries me. If there's a problem with the files, I need to find it before things get hosed (and yes, I did run all the files through a MIF wash). *I will be testing setting up a shared review by storing the shared review PDF on the cloud drive and sending a link instead, but until I do, I know this works. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Not to minimize your question, but... > > With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for > hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile > worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of > storage space. Unless you know your documents are going to be posted on a > website where a significant number of users do not have anything resembling > broadband access, spending more than a few seconds worrying about 10 MB in > file size does not yield a good return on investment. > > -Fred Ridder > > -- > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500 > Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding > From: ljsims...@gmail.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > > Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing > dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version > of FM to FM12)? > > I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and that's AFTER > running the Save as Reduced Size. > > Is this a bug, have I not set something up in either FM12 or Acrobat 10 > correctly, or is there a solution? > > Thanks, > > -- > Lin Sims > > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
After a bit of testing, the increase seems to be linked to 3 files that were created using DITAFMx from a batch of xml files that were generated by script from an Excel workbook. Interestingly, these files have always been part of the document (and inserted in the same way), so I'm not sure why there's a sudden file size increase. I'll be regenerating these files again soon, so I'll see if the increase continues. It's still odd. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:39 PM, David Spreadbury wrote: > Lin, > I just tested your issue opening a 12 page text only structured FM7.2 file > and saving it as FM12. > Did nothing more than open the FM7.2 in FM12 and then save it as a FM12 > document. > Printed FM12 version using Acro XI Adobe PDF driver. > Distilled postscript to PDF. > FM7.2 file size=358KB Acro 8 PDF=207KB > FM12 file size=8630KB Acro XI PDF=278KB > This was one chapter of a 30+ chapter book. > The Acro8 PDF of the book is 3025KB. > I can open and update all the chapters, but with only 70KB increase in one > chapter, I would expect a slight increase in the book, but nothing like you > are experiencing. > > Dave > > > On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:18 AM, Lin Sims > wrote: > > > > The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage site. > There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is using corporate > GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for now I have to attach a > shared review enabled PDF to an email to allow reviewers to join the > review*. Admittedly, this one file isn't going to break either of those > limits, but it's not something I can keep doing for a long period of time. > Plus the sudden increase in size worries me. If there's a problem with the > files, I need to find it before things get hosed (and yes, I did run all > the files through a MIF wash). > > *I will be testing setting up a shared review by storing the shared review > PDF on the cloud drive and sending a link instead, but until I do, I know > this works. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Not to minimize your question, but... > > With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for > hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile > worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of > storage space. Unless you know your documents are going to be posted on a > website where a significant number of users do not have anything resembling > broadband access, spending more than a few seconds worrying about 10 MB in > file size does not yield a good return on investment. > > -Fred Ridder > > -- > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500 > Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding > From: ljsims...@gmail.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > > Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing > dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version > of FM to FM12)? > > I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and that's AFTER > running the Save as Reduced Size. > > Is this a bug, have I not set something up in either FM12 or Acrobat 10 > correctly, or is there a solution? > > Thanks, > > -- > Lin Sims > > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as dspre...@yahoo.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/dspreadb%40yahoo.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Yes, of course. I wasn't jumping on you--it's a legitimate point. I was supplying information that I (stupidly) left out before. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Fair enough. > > But I think it was worthwhile to point out that there are legitimate > reasons for many of us to have never noticed whatever change may have > occurred, or to have never spent time investigating if we *did* notice a > difference. In other words, you might not see a lot of responses to your > query because many of us have had no need to pay attention to this issue. > > -FR > > -- > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 12:18:11 -0500 > Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding > From: ljsims...@gmail.com > To: docu...@hotmail.com > CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > > The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage site. > There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is using corporate > GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for now I have to attach a > shared review enabled PDF to an email to allow reviewers to join the > review*. Admittedly, this one file isn't going to break either of those > limits, but it's not something I can keep doing for a long period of time. > Plus the sudden increase in size worries me. If there's a problem with the > files, I need to find it before things get hosed (and yes, I did run all > the files through a MIF wash). > > *I will be testing setting up a shared review by storing the shared review > PDF on the cloud drive and sending a link instead, but until I do, I know > this works. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > > Not to minimize your question, but... > > With the cost of computer storage running about $0.10 per gigabyte for > hard disk or $0.50 per gigabyte for SSD, I'm not sure it's worthwhile > worrying about 10 MB more or less. That's less than 1/2 cent's worth of > storage space. Unless you know your documents are going to be posted on a > website where a significant number of users do not have anything resembling > broadband access, spending more than a few seconds worrying about 10 MB in > file size does not yield a good return on investment. > > -Fred Ridder > > -- > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:26:35 -0500 > Subject: FM12: PDF file size exploding > From: ljsims...@gmail.com > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > > > Has anyone had an issue with the size of a generated PDF increasing > dramatically after moving a book from FM10 to FM12 (or any earlier version > of FM to FM12)? > > I've got a book that's gone from under 3M to over 12M, and that's AFTER > running the Save as Reduced Size. > > Is this a bug, have I not set something up in either FM12 or Acrobat 10 > correctly, or is there a solution? > > Thanks, > > -- > Lin Sims > > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Ah! More information I left out! The book is an unstructured book, but it includes 3 files that were created from structured data. Those 3 files are still structured, because that's the only way to keep the xref links working. The process is this: 1. An Excel 2010 spreadsheet is converted to multiple .xml files by using a script, which inserts the correct DITA tags and also creates a .ditamap for them. 2. The ditamap is converted into a Frame book using DITAFMx, which gives me a book file with a TOC and a single .xml.fm file. 3. The .xml.fm file is added to an unstructured Frame book but is left as a structured file. 4. The book is updated/generated and then a PDF is generated using Save As PDF. As I said, when I was working in FM10, the PDF had a size of about 3, 3.5M. The files were recently converted from FM10 to FM12. When I use the above process and generate the PDF from FM12, the file size has gone to about 12-13M. The files that had been converted from .xml to .fm have not changed since the last time I created the PDF in FM10. The rest of the files have changed but not in a major way. In a few days I expect to regenerate those .xml files from the source Excel, so maybe something will change. It just seemed weird that the move from FM10 to FM12 seemed to result in such a large increase in the PDF size. I'll keep y'all posted. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Scott Prentice wrote: > If these files started off as XML or structured files, and the others > didn't, there could definitely be some extra cruft in there. You probably > checked this already, but are these files still structured? > > I haven't noticed any significant size difference in PDFs from XML from > FM11 to FM12. I just did a quick test of a single page .. when saved to PDF > from FM11 it's 63KB and from FM12 it's 69 KB .. over 100 pages that might > be a difference of 60KB. Not a big difference from my perspective. > > Doing a similar test with an unstructured file, the FM11 PDF is 34 KB and > the FM12 PDF is 40KB. > > The structured/XML sourced file actually has less content than the > unstructured file, and the resulting PDF is larger .. so it's possible that > your PDFs that come from XML may be larger. And there does seem to be an > increase in size (from both structured and unstructured) in PDFs from FM11 > to FM12. > > You might check to see if your files are still structured .. removing the > structure (if that's the intent) might reduce the file size. Also, since > these files came through a different path, they may have additional > content/graphics/?? on reference pages which could increase the file size. > > Cheers, > ...scott > > On 2/17/15 9:50 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > After a bit of testing, the increase seems to be linked to 3 files that > were created using DITAFMx from a batch of xml files that were generated by > script from an Excel workbook. Interestingly, these files have always been > part of the document (and inserted in the same way), so I'm not sure why > there's a sudden file size increase. > > I'll be regenerating these files again soon, so I'll see if the increase > continues. It's still odd. > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:39 PM, David Spreadbury > wrote: > >> Lin, >> I just tested your issue opening a 12 page text only structured >> FM7.2 file and saving it as FM12. >> Did nothing more than open the FM7.2 in FM12 and then save it as a FM12 >> document. >> Printed FM12 version using Acro XI Adobe PDF driver. >> Distilled postscript to PDF. >> FM7.2 file size=358KB Acro 8 PDF=207KB >> FM12 file size=8630KB Acro XI PDF=278KB >> This was one chapter of a 30+ chapter book. >> The Acro8 PDF of the book is 3025KB. >> I can open and update all the chapters, but with only 70KB increase in >> one chapter, I would expect a slight increase in the book, but nothing like >> you are experiencing. >> >> Dave >> >> >>On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:18 AM, Lin Sims >> wrote: >> >> >> >>The PDF has to be posted as a shared review on a cloud web storage >> site. There's a size limit to what you can upload. My company is using >> corporate GMAIL and I have a 30Gb limit on storage, and for now I have to >> attach a shared review enabled PDF to an email to allow reviewers to join >> the review*. Admittedly, this one file isn't going to break either of those >> limits, but it's not something I can keep doing for a long period of time. >> Plus the sudden increase in size worries me. If there's a problem with the >> files, I need to find it before things get hosed (and yes, I did run all >&
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which was only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the bookmarks with it. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Boss wrote: > Try Tools > Protection > Remove Hidden Information. Even if you only select > something like Hidden text, it removes a lot of other things like reader > extensions, review and forms workflows, and information added by > third-party > applications. It can reduce the file size significantly. > > David > > Boss Communications / Boss Photographic > www.bosscommunications.com / www.bossphotographic.com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Yeah, I tried that, too. As you said, the difference was fairly minimal. I am hoping that the next time I create the generated files that things clear up, since they'll essentially be "from scratch". Possibly when I was doing work elsewhere in the document, they got caught in an edit they shouldn't have. On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 2:31 PM, David Boss wrote: > Don't remove "Links, actions and javascripts" and the bookmarks will be > retained. > > Unfortunately, although it can reduce file size by up to 70% in my > experience, sometimes the reduction is minimal. > > > > David > > > > *Boss Communications / Boss Photographic* > > www.bosscommunications.com / www.bossphotographic.com > > > > *From:* Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* February-18-15 2:16 PM > *To:* David Boss > *Cc:* Frame Users > *Subject:* Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding > > > > Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which > was only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the > bookmarks with it. > > > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 1:36 PM, David Boss wrote: > > Try Tools > Protection > Remove Hidden Information. Even if you only select > something like Hidden text, it removes a lot of other things like reader > extensions, review and forms workflows, and information added by > third-party > applications. It can reduce the file size significantly. > > David > > Boss Communications / Boss Photographic > www.bosscommunications.com / www.bossphotographic.com > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Deactivate not available for for Framemaker 10
I know you are set up as the administrator on the laptop, but is it possible you're not running FrameMaker in the administration mode? On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:15 PM, Tammy Van Boening < tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > Hi Heiko, > > > > It's my business laptop and I am therefore set up as the administrator and > the PC is connected to the internet - hard-wired in fact, not even > wireless. J > > > > I am doing what you suggested about going ahead and trying to install as > another suggested offlist. Just frustrating and a big time waster to try > deal with something that should be so simple. > > > > thanks! > > > > TVB > > > > Tammy Van Boening > > Owner/Principal > > Spectrum Writing, LLC > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > 303-840-1755 > > > > *From:* Heiko Haida [mailto:i...@heiko-haida.de] > *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 11:03 AM > *To:* Tammy Van Boening; Framers > *Subject:* Re: Deactivate not available for for Framemaker 10 > > > > Hi Tammy, > > it may be necessary to work with admin rights to have the "Deactivate" > button available, or maybe it will only work if the computer is connected > with the internet. > > If this did not help: Maybe you could just try to install FM 10 on the > second laptop and see if the program would run with your license... > > Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin > > > > Tammy Van Boening: > > HI All, > > I have two Win 7, 64 bit machines (one desktop and one laptop) both with > Framemaker 10 installed, all patched and current. I need to deactivate the > instance of FM 10 on the laptop so that I can install and activate it on > a second laptop. When I open the instance of FM 10 on the desktop, the > Deactivate option is available from the Help menu. Great, but I do not want > to deactivate this instance. When I open the instance of FM 10 on the > laptop, the Deactivate option is grayed-out and no matter what I do, I > cannot get to become enabled. I have closed and reopened FM multiple times, > I have opened and closed existing FM documents, I have created and saved > new FM documents, but no joy. > > > > I can't deactivate the FM instance on my desktop . . .it has to be the one > on the laptop. > > Any thoughts or suggestions? > > TIA, > > TVB > > Tammy Van Boening > > Owner/Principal > > Spectrum Writing, LLC > > tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com > > www.spectrumwritingllc.com > > 303-840-1755 > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Well, on the minus side, regenerating those files and trying all the tips y'all have so kindly provided has not reduced the file size appreciably. On the plus side, I've discovered that it is, in fact, possible to put the shared-review-enabled PDF onto the cloud storage site, where we have unlimited storage. The reviewers still have to download it locally, but they always had to do that. I no longer need to send it as an attachment to an email, so the situation has become the one Fred thought it was to begin with. :-) On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 3:53 AM, Davis, David < david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com> wrote: > Lin, > As far as I recall, modern versions of Adobe Reader autogenerate the PDF > bookmark pane and thumbnails on the fly if you ask them to, > so if megabytes are really that tight for you, you could probably ditch > them anyway? > > David > > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 14:16:20 -0500 > From: Lin Sims > To: David Boss > Cc: Frame Users > Subject: Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding > Message-ID: > < > ca+momch5u+scw8jkcxtcbgggyuayctdwazw9ucausnvcwwg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks for the tip. I tried removing everything but the metadata (which > was only the doc title), but it only trimmed about 2Mb off and took the > bookmarks with it. > > *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or > attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it > is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally > privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its > status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then > delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for > any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email > comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, > which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered > office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered > number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys > Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys > Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. > > You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail > recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be > subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its > subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and > affiliates). > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I know, but we're kinda stuck with that as part of the process). On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Are of the image compression options different? > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF > > generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from PDF to > > Frame, but it turns out that really isn't as useful as I'd hoped, so the > > next time I created the PDF, I made sure it was off. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Robert Lauriston > > wrote: > >> > >> If that happened to me, I'd still want to know where the bloat was > >> coming from. PDFs larger than 10MB still present problems for me on > >> occasion, and files becoming 4X larger without any additional data > >> strongly suggests that a property setting was inappropriately changed > >> in the upgrade or some new property setting is at an inappropriate > >> default. > >> > >> The Generate Tagged PDF option didn't get switched on, did it? > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> > Well, on the minus side, regenerating those files and trying all the > >> > tips > >> > y'all have so kindly provided has not reduced the file size > appreciably. > >> > > >> > On the plus side, I've discovered that it is, in fact, possible to put > >> > the > >> > shared-review-enabled PDF onto the cloud storage site, where we have > >> > unlimited storage. The reviewers still have to download it locally, > but > >> > they > >> > always had to do that. I no longer need to send it as an attachment to > >> > an > >> > email, so the situation has become the one Fred thought it was to > begin > >> > with. :-) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Shoot, you're right. Adobe finally fixed the SVG generation into PDF so that the SVG graphics are searchable again. Or so they say, I haven't actually tried to search for anything. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Maybe there's a change in how FrameMaker 12 handles SVGs when > generating PDFs? Could the rasterization quality default have changed? > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I know, > > but we're kinda stuck with that as part of the process). > > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Lauriston > > wrote: > >> > >> Are of the image compression options different? > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> > Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF > >> > generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from PDF > to > >> > Frame, but it turns out that really isn't as useful as I'd hoped, so > the > >> > next time I created the PDF, I made sure it was off. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Robert Lauriston < > rob...@lauriston.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> If that happened to me, I'd still want to know where the bloat was > >> >> coming from. PDFs larger than 10MB still present problems for me on > >> >> occasion, and files becoming 4X larger without any additional data > >> >> strongly suggests that a property setting was inappropriately changed > >> >> in the upgrade or some new property setting is at an inappropriate > >> >> default. > >> >> > >> >> The Generate Tagged PDF option didn't get switched on, did it? > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Lin Sims > wrote: > >> >> > Well, on the minus side, regenerating those files and trying all > the > >> >> > tips > >> >> > y'all have so kindly provided has not reduced the file size > >> >> > appreciably. > >> >> > > >> >> > On the plus side, I've discovered that it is, in fact, possible to > >> >> > put > >> >> > the > >> >> > shared-review-enabled PDF onto the cloud storage site, where we > have > >> >> > unlimited storage. The reviewers still have to download it locally, > >> >> > but > >> >> > they > >> >> > always had to do that. I no longer need to send it as an attachment > >> >> > to > >> >> > an > >> >> > email, so the situation has become the one Fred thought it was to > >> >> > begin > >> >> > with. :-) > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Lin Sims > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
And, just testing it, but Adobe Acrobat was not able to find text inside a graphic, which was a big reason why we upgraded. I'll have to look into that, but I bet you're right, Robert. I bet that's the cause. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > Shoot, you're right. Adobe finally fixed the SVG generation into PDF so > that the SVG graphics are searchable again. Or so they say, I haven't > actually tried to search for anything. > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert Lauriston > wrote: > >> Maybe there's a change in how FrameMaker 12 handles SVGs when >> generating PDFs? Could the rasterization quality default have changed? >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Lin Sims wrote: >> > Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I >> know, >> > but we're kinda stuck with that as part of the process). >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Lauriston > > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Are of the image compression options different? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims >> wrote: >> >> > Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF >> >> > generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from >> PDF to >> >> > Frame, but it turns out that really isn't as useful as I'd hoped, so >> the >> >> > next time I created the PDF, I made sure it was off. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Robert Lauriston < >> rob...@lauriston.com> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> If that happened to me, I'd still want to know where the bloat was >> >> >> coming from. PDFs larger than 10MB still present problems for me on >> >> >> occasion, and files becoming 4X larger without any additional data >> >> >> strongly suggests that a property setting was inappropriately >> changed >> >> >> in the upgrade or some new property setting is at an inappropriate >> >> >> default. >> >> >> >> >> >> The Generate Tagged PDF option didn't get switched on, did it? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Lin Sims >> wrote: >> >> >> > Well, on the minus side, regenerating those files and trying all >> the >> >> >> > tips >> >> >> > y'all have so kindly provided has not reduced the file size >> >> >> > appreciably. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On the plus side, I've discovered that it is, in fact, possible to >> >> >> > put >> >> >> > the >> >> >> > shared-review-enabled PDF onto the cloud storage site, where we >> have >> >> >> > unlimited storage. The reviewers still have to download it >> locally, >> >> >> > but >> >> >> > they >> >> >> > always had to do that. I no longer need to send it as an >> attachment >> >> >> > to >> >> >> > an >> >> >> > email, so the situation has become the one Fred thought it was to >> >> >> > begin >> >> >> > with. :-) >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > -- >> >> > Lin Sims >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Lin Sims >> > > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Automatic column widths on import of XML file
We've an internal perl script that sets up tables at a predefined table width with the columns at predefined widths, but I'm pretty sure those measurements are hard-coded into the script that creates the XML file from the Excel spreadsheet. It's doable if you know what sizes you're working with before you get started, including how many columns you need included. XML might let you set column widths as a percentage of page/screen width, but I don't think that's directly transferable to FM. Can perl handle calculations? On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:26 PM, Scott Prentice wrote: > Fei Min... > > FM won't auto-adjust table columns in any useful way. The only way I know > of is to write a script or plugin to analyze the contents of the cells and > do the width adjustment based on some predefined logic (widest graphic, or > amount of text, etc.). > > Would love to hear I'm wrong .. but hot holding my breath. > > ...scott > > On 2/23/15 9:16 AM, Fei Min Lorente wrote: > > Hi folks: > > > > I found this discussion from 2008: > https://forums.adobe.com/message/1279946#1279946, and this helpful answer > from Russ Ward in 2010: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/577820?tstart=0, > but I don’t see the solution that I’m looking for. My manager (a software > development guy) would like to create an XML file that I can import into > FrameMaker that doesn’t specify the width of each column. He’s taking > output from Jira, and people can create tables in the Description field > there, but he has no way of knowing how wide the columns are. He figures > that if HTML can automatically size the columns to suit the contents, > surely FrameMaker can do this too (I’m not so sure). > > > > I’ve tried it myself, and the column widths in the table template apply > when you don’t specify widths in XML. If you have more columns than are in > your template, it seems to use the width of the last templated column. And > the tables might contain graphics as well as text. > > > > Anyone have any better ideas? > > > > I’m using FrameMaker 10 on Windows 7. I think my manager is using Perl or > some other scripting language. Jira outputs HTML as well as some other text > format. > > > > Fei Min Lorente > > Senior Technical Communicator > > Medical and Wireless Division > > feimin.lore...@onsemi.com > > +1 519-884-9696 ext. 2297 | Waterloo office > > +1 519-831-4931 | mobile > > +1 905-631-5724 | fax > > www.onsemi.com > > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as s...@leximation.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sp14%40leximation.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. > Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, since we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents. The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected. Now if I can just get the text within the SVG graphics to be searchable (a major reason for the upgrade), I'll be happy. I'm already in touch with Kapil about that. On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > And, just testing it, but Adobe Acrobat was not able to find text inside a > graphic, which was a big reason why we upgraded. I'll have to look into > that, but I bet you're right, Robert. I bet that's the cause. > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> >> >> Shoot, you're right. Adobe finally fixed the SVG generation into PDF so >> that the SVG graphics are searchable again. Or so they say, I haven't >> actually tried to search for anything. >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Robert Lauriston >> wrote: >> >>> Maybe there's a change in how FrameMaker 12 handles SVGs when >>> generating PDFs? Could the rasterization quality default have changed? >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Lin Sims wrote: >>> > Nope. All the images are SVGs that are copied into the file (yes, I >>> know, >>> > but we're kinda stuck with that as part of the process). >>> > >>> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 2:24 PM, Robert Lauriston < >>> rob...@lauriston.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Are of the image compression options different? >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Lin Sims >>> wrote: >>> >> > Nope. It's off by default. I had switched it on for one of the PDF >>> >> > generations, because I was hoping to use the import comments from >>> PDF to >>> >> > Frame, but it turns out that really isn't as useful as I'd hoped, >>> so the >>> >> > next time I created the PDF, I made sure it was off. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Robert Lauriston < >>> rob...@lauriston.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> If that happened to me, I'd still want to know where the bloat was >>> >> >> coming from. PDFs larger than 10MB still present problems for me on >>> >> >> occasion, and files becoming 4X larger without any additional data >>> >> >> strongly suggests that a property setting was inappropriately >>> changed >>> >> >> in the upgrade or some new property setting is at an inappropriate >>> >> >> default. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> The Generate Tagged PDF option didn't get switched on, did it? >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:18 AM, Lin Sims >>> wrote: >>> >> >> > Well, on the minus side, regenerating those files and trying all >>> the >>> >> >> > tips >>> >> >> > y'all have so kindly provided has not reduced the file size >>> >> >> > appreciably. >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > On the plus side, I've discovered that it is, in fact, possible >>> to >>> >> >> > put >>> >> >> > the >>> >> >> > shared-review-enabled PDF onto the cloud storage site, where we >>> have >>> >> >> > unlimited storage. The reviewers still have to download it >>> locally, >>> >> >> > but >>> >> >> > they >>> >> >> > always had to do that. I no longer need to send it as an >>> attachment >>> >> >> > to >>> >> >> > an >>> >> >> > email, so the situation has become the one Fred thought it was to >>> >> >> > begin >>> >> >> > with. :-) >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > -- >>> >> > Lin Sims >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Lin Sims >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lin Sims >> > > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller, so I'm going to spend some time with the PDF Creation Settings manual and see if it sheds any light on the issue. This is the first job I've ever had that actually created a customized joboptions file. Always before, I picked Standard. However, the people controlling that sort of thing are no longer in control, so I'm free to explore a bit and see if there's something that works better. Especially since I suspect it hasn't been looked at in a long time. Would you believe, it was still set to be compatible with Acrobat 4.0? On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > That seems bizarre. > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, > since > > we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents. > > > > The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
Would a corrupt .joboptions file result in the sort of file size increase I saw? I just tried creating a PDF using the Standard option, and everything was fine. On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller, so I'm > going to spend some time with the PDF Creation Settings manual and see if > it sheds any light on the issue. > > This is the first job I've ever had that actually created a customized > joboptions file. Always before, I picked Standard. However, the people > controlling that sort of thing are no longer in control, so I'm free to > explore a bit and see if there's something that works better. Especially > since I suspect it hasn't been looked at in a long time. Would you believe, > it was still set to be compatible with Acrobat 4.0? > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Robert Lauriston > wrote: > >> That seems bizarre. >> >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Lin Sims wrote: >> > FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, >> since >> > we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents. >> > >> > The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I expected. >> > > > > -- > Lin Sims > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: FM12: PDF file size exploding
And that's what it was. When I replaced the copy I had with a clean version, generated a PDF, then used the Save As Reduced size, it came out perfectly. Seriously, you'd think I'd be happier about solving the problem, but what a bloody piddly thing it turned out to be to take all that time to fix. Oh, well. Next problem ... On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Seems plausible. Inappropriate .joboptions settings can cause massive > bloat. > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > > Would a corrupt .joboptions file result in the sort of file size > increase I > > saw? I just tried creating a PDF using the Standard option, and > everything > > was fine. > > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > >> > >> It does a bit, doesn't it? I've never really dug into Distiller, so I'm > >> going to spend some time with the PDF Creation Settings manual and see > if it > >> sheds any light on the issue. > >> > >> This is the first job I've ever had that actually created a customized > >> joboptions file. Always before, I picked Standard. However, the people > >> controlling that sort of thing are no longer in control, so I'm free to > >> explore a bit and see if there's something that works better. Especially > >> since I suspect it hasn't been looked at in a long time. Would you > believe, > >> it was still set to be compatible with Acrobat 4.0? > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 2:07 PM, Robert Lauriston > > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> That seems bizarre. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > >>> > FYI to all, I changed the image compression options from JPEG to off, > >>> > since > >>> > we only use either SVGs or PNGs in our documents. > >>> > > >>> > The file size dropped dramatically. As in, it's back to what I > >>> > expected. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Acrobat: Need to delete Shared Review profile
You know how, when you set up a shared review and specify that you want to use your own server to collect comments, it let's you save all your choices to a named profile? I've got a few obsolete ones, but I can't find anyway to delete them. I really need to, as having them is a trifle confusing. IS there a way? I've searched Acrobat help and used Google, but I can't find anything that addresses this. Which means I'm either using the wrong terms, or it isn't possible without a reinstall, which would be just UGLY. Thanks, -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Frame vs. Flare for My Needs
As I recall, Mif2Go should output pretty darn spiffy Word documents, although you may have to fiddle with it a bit to get what you want. Acrobat 10 (I think) and later will save PDFs to Word format, although everything will be in modified Normal (no style-name information is carried through, but the document WILL look the same as it does in PDF). Depending on what they want to do, that might be sufficient. Are the customers going to sign something legally binding that says, "we edited it, so any mistakes are our responsibility"? On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Kevin Ryan < kevin.r...@systemsandsoftware.net> wrote: > Hi, > > > > I could use the advice of some Frame veterans on whether a switch from > Frame to Flare might be a delusion-inspired wrong turn for me, or possibly > the right way to go. > > > > My company's primary documentation output is PDF user/training/reference > guides authored on FrameMaker 7. Not the current Frame version, I know, but > sufficient with our good templates to produce solid, professional-looking > documents we're proud of. Other current deliverables include > context-sensitive HTML topics produced via Mif2go and a limited number of > "Process Assistance" MS Word topics. These latter are a sort of MS-Word > help equivalent that our customers can download from our application, edit > if necessary, and even upload back into our application for others if they > want to. I create Process Assistance MS-Word topics by cutting from Frame > and pasting into Word, followed by manual reformatting (ouch). > > > > Our customers (utilities) have been requesting another MS Word output: > Editable MS Word versions of our 20-300 page PDF manuals so that they can > edit them for their own purposes (such as internal training). > Unfortunately, we've been unable to find a workable Frame-to-Word > conversion process to this end. I can do manual reformatting to Word in > our short Process Assistance topics, but to do it on entire manuals would > give me a nervous breakdown. > > > > So, with better MS-Word output generation as my primary goal, I've been > considering a switch to Flare. Its capability to output in PDF, Word, and > HTML seems as though it might ultimately streamline our processes. As I > test Flare by my 30-day trial, though, I'm reminded of the many things > FrameMaker does really well — things I might be losing if I made the > switch: For example, precise page layouts, complex graphics, robust > tables. To its credit, Flare seems to offer output versatility, excellent > documentation and support, and a lot of Marketing momentum. > > > > Am I misguiding myself? Barking up the wrong tree? > > > > Thanks for any opinions or comments. > > > > *Kevin Ryan* > > *Technical Writer* > > [image: cid:image001.jpg@01C97FA7.A9E51B40] > > Systems & Software, Inc. > > 426 Industrial Avenue > > Suite 140 > > Williston, VT 05495 > > 802.865.1170 phone > > 802.865.1171 fax > > > > >-- > > *Save the Date! 2015 Harris Customer Training Conference:* > <http://www1.harriscomputer.com/en/conference/> > October 21–23, 2015, Atlanta, Georgia - Atlanta Marriott Marquis. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Acrobat: Need to delete Shared Review profile
Thanks Monique. That worked PERFECTLY. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Monique Semp wrote: > Yes, I'd found this recently by googling, "acrobat delete shared review > profile": http://blogs.adobe.com/thesamepage/2009/01/modifying_ > shared_review_locati.html. > > These instructions are for Acrobat 9, but they carried through for my > Acrobat Pro XI, and I imagine they'd be similar for any version. > > -Monique > > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?
Syed, Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you converted from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at least for me) the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed for FM12, is only fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the documents I have that were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs with text-searchable SVG graphics. All of the documents that are created in FM12 produce PDFs with searchable SVG graphics. So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't simply import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that you can't copy & paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy & pasting as Unicode text does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your formatting tags and recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. Oddly, you can copy and paste the tables in without causing an issue. Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or referenced graphics. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David < david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com> wrote: > If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend > logging it in the Adobe bug tracker. > When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in > there for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months, > which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker! > The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their > dev team. > > David > > From: Denis Daly [d.d...@icpnewtech.com] > Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56 > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Davis, David; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement? > > Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed. > > I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved > the problem. > > Denis > > *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or > attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it > is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally > privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its > status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then > delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for > any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email > comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, > which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered > office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered > number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys > Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. Invensys > Limited is owned by the Schneider-Electric Group. > > You may contact Invensys Limited on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail > recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be > subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its > subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and > affiliates). > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?
I tried that, too, actually. First thing I did, and I should have listed it. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Combs, Richard (CW) < richard.co...@polycom.com> wrote: > If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently > didn’t import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added): > > > > When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box > allows the user to select the *rasterization* quality of the image. By > increasing the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; > however, increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the > image, and it takes longer to import it. > > FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript > printers by *rendering* the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated > PostScript (EPS). For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the > FrameImage format. > > If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster > (bitmapped) images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics > when outputting to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point > the text is not text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots. > > > > So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo > it. You have to reimport the original SVGs. > > > > My sympathies. > > > > > > *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: > framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lin Sims > *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM > *To:* Davis, David > *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement? > > > > Syed, > > Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you > converted from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at > least for me) the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed > for FM12, is only fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the > documents I have that were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs > with text-searchable SVG graphics. All of the documents that are created in > FM12 produce PDFs with searchable SVG graphics. > > So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't > simply import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that > you can't copy & paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy & pasting > as Unicode text does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your > formatting tags and recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. > Oddly, you can copy and paste the tables in without causing an issue. > > Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded > graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or > referenced graphics. > > > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David < > david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com> wrote: > > If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend > logging it in the Adobe bug tracker. > When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in > there for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months, > which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker! > The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their > dev team. > > David > > From: Denis Daly [d.d...@icpnewtech.com] > Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56 > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Davis, David; > framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement? > > Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed. > > I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have solved > the problem. > > Denis > > *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or > attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it > is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally > privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its > status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then > delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for > any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email > comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys Limited, > which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered > office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered > number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys > Group, please select the Legal Entities link a
Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement?
And it's making a liar out of me. I just tried it again, and this time it worked. Honestly, sometimes it isn't even worth banging your head against a table. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Lin Sims wrote: > I tried that, too, actually. First thing I did, and I should have listed > it. > > On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Combs, Richard (CW) < > richard.co...@polycom.com> wrote: > >> If what the FM10 help says is correct, this is because FM10 apparently >> didn’t import the graphics in native SVG format (emphasis added): >> >> >> >> When importing a Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG), the SVG Import dialog box >> allows the user to select the *rasterization* quality of the image. By >> increasing the rasterization quality, printed and PDF versions are crisper; >> however, increasing the rasterization also increases the file size of the >> image, and it takes longer to import it. >> >> FrameMaker prints Scalable Vector Graphic (SVG) images to PostScript >> printers by *rendering* the images as vector graphics using Encapsulated >> PostScript (EPS). For non-PostScript printers, FrameMaker uses the >> FrameImage format. >> >> If I’m interpreting this correctly, FM10 converted SVGs to raster >> (bitmapped) images on import. It rendered those bitmaps as vector graphics >> when outputting to a PostScript device (printer or PDF), but at that point >> the text is not text, just lines – vectors describing a sequence of dots. >> >> >> >> So the damage is done upon import, and nothing done subsequently can undo >> it. You have to reimport the original SVGs. >> >> >> >> My sympathies. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: >> framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Lin Sims >> *Sent:* Friday, February 27, 2015 6:22 AM >> *To:* Davis, David >> *Cc:* framers@lists.frameusers.com >> *Subject:* Re: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement? >> >> >> >> Syed, >> >> Are these brand new files created by FM12, or are these files you >> converted from an earlier version? I ask because I've discovered that (at >> least for me) the text-searchable SVG graphic bug, which is listed as fixed >> for FM12, is only fixed if you're talking about new documents. None of the >> documents I have that were converted from FM10 to FM12 will produce PDFs >> with text-searchable SVG graphics. All of the documents that are created in >> FM12 produce PDFs with searchable SVG graphics. >> >> So far I've determined that MIF-washing doesn't fix this, that you can't >> simply import the contents of the FM10 file into the FM12 file, and that >> you can't copy & paste using the Frame Interchange Format. Copy & pasting >> as Unicode text does work, but of course you then have to reapply all your >> formatting tags and recreate all your xrefs and conditionaled content. >> Oddly, you can copy and paste the tables in without causing an issue. >> >> Note that my company's workflow is to use unstructured FM with embedded >> graphics; I do not know if this applies to structured FM or XML files or >> referenced graphics. >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Davis, David < >> david.da...@non.schneider-electric.com> wrote: >> >> If people have a problem with a specific bug, I really would recommend >> logging it in the Adobe bug tracker. >> When I logged my CMYK issue, there was already one other bug report in >> there for the same thing, and I did get a fix within about 3 months, >> which is a pretty good turnaround for a behemoth like FrameMaker! >> The more people log a bug. the higher a priority it will get with their >> dev team. >> >> David >> >> From: Denis Daly [d.d...@icpnewtech.com] >> Sent: 27 February 2015 08:56 >> To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net); Davis, David; >> framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Subject: RE: Did I miss the FM12.0.4 Update Announcement? >> >> Please keep us informed of your experiences with the CMYK issue Syed. >> >> I (along with many others) was hoping this latest update would have >> solved the problem. >> >> Denis >> >> *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or >> attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it >> is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally >> privileged. If you have receive
