[Framers] OT: Need S1000D writers

[Rick Quatro]

Hi,

 

One of my clients is looking for a structured FrameMaker user that can work
with S1000D content. No experience with S1000D is necessary, but you must be
familiar with structured FrameMaker authoring. Contact me offlist and I will
forward you information to my client. Thanks.

 

Rick

 

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585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] Simultaneous installations of FrameMaker 2015 and 2017

[Rick Quatro]

I have FrameMaker 2017, 2015, 12, and 10 installed on the same machine.

In the past, I have had problems with FrameMaker installers if they weren't
on the primary drive when I ran the setup.exe. Once I moved the set up files
to the C drive, the installation went fine.

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I currently have both installed, but had to change the permissions on a
folder. My Sys Admin warned me afterwards that it wasn't something he would
have done.

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> Some years ago I had noticed that only those variables or 
> cross-reference formats or paragraph autonumbering definitions are 
> imported in a translation memory system (Trados) which are actually used
in the document.
> All those which are not used are not imported.
> When you edit a variable which is not translated and then import all 
> variable definitions into another file, you might overwrite already 
> translated variable definitions in the other file.
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> I do not know, if this had changed. And it could be that some 
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> Art:
>
> For next time, make sure the translators are given instructions to 
> translate the relevant variables in the variable file (you may need to 
> specify the specific variables) as well as any auto-numbering para 
> formats that contain words (eg, Chapter, Appendix, etc).
>
> I always provide a specific variable file for the translators to use 
> with instructions on importing the variables into the book.
>
> Alison
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> May be a novice question for you guys who work in translation, but 
> it's new to me.
>
> I'm updating an already translated-into-Spanish document with some new 
> screen shots (I don't speak Spanish, so I'm not messing with the text 
> at all). The problem is that the variables, like the Table 
> Continuation, are coming in as English instead of Spanish.
>
> How can I get it to read "continuado" instead of "continued," 
> hopefully without messing up my installation too much?
>
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker variable language

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Art,

You will have to edit the variable definitions and translate the literal
text to Spanish. You can then import the variable definitions from the one
document into the rest of the book (File > Import > Formats). You have to do
the same thing with the literal text in the autonumbers of paragraph
formats, as well as cross-reference formats. Please let me know if you need
some automation help with this. Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker variable language

May be a novice question for you guys who work in translation, but it's new
to me.

I'm updating an already translated-into-Spanish document with some new
screen shots (I don't speak Spanish, so I'm not messing with the text at
all). The problem is that the variables, like the Table Continuation, are
coming in as English instead of Spanish.

How can I get it to read "continuado" instead of "continued," hopefully
without messing up my installation too much?

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
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a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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Re: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

[Rick Quatro]

After you get an example of your table set up on a body page, click in the
table, open the Table Designer, and click Update All. The next time you
insert one of these tables, it should have the desired paragraph formats.

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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2017 12:12 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Permanent paragraph tag in a selected table cell?

OK,

 

I know somehow I did this a gazillion years ago (well, I >>THINK<< I did),
but for the life of me, I can't remember/figure out how. 

 

I have a two cell table, one row table called NoteTipTable saved in my
Designer. In the first cell, I place one of the following paragraph tags
manually - NoteAnchor or TipAnchor. For these tags, the Below Paragraph
characteristic is set to NoteGraphic or TipGraphic accordingly, and the
correct graphic is pulled in from the Reference page. For the second cell, I
always need a tag called NoteTipAnchor placed, and then after a hard return,
the Next paragraph is NoteTipText, but this text is dynamic based on the
Note or Tip that I am writing at the time.   

 

Is there any way at all in the Table Designer to have this NoteTipAnchor tag
placed automatically in the second cell of the table? I can't pull it in
from the Reference page as the text that it holds is not static. 

 

I know that there will be many questions as to this setup, but there's a
whole lot of other stuff behind this set up that isn't pertinent to this
question. I just need a way to automatically drop this NoteTipAnchor tag in
to the second cell of this table automatically every time I insert the table
from the Designer.

 

Thanks!

 

TVB

 

 

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Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] RE: Anyone know of a way to include a non-breaking hyphen/dash in a variable definition?

[Rick Quatro]

What version of FrameMaker are you using? I got it to work in FM 2015. I will 
send you a document off list.

 

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non-breaking hyphen/dash in a variable definition?

 

Nope, that's not it...




 

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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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   DoD 358

 

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com 
<mailto:r...@rickquatro.com> > wrote:

Hi Art,

Try \+ in the dialog box.

Rick

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On FM '17

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Re: [Framers] Anyone know of a way to include a non-breaking hyphen/dash in a variable definition?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Art,

Try \+ in the dialog box.

Rick

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On FM '17

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Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

[Rick Quatro]

Hi John,

You have to use forward slashes instead of backslashes. If you want to use 
backslashes, you have to double them.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Linking to a LAN Shared Drive

Hi  Guys…something odd.

In the Hypertext dialog box with command Go to URL, I enter

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\MANY\DEPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

When I click the button, it converts to:

message URL File:///\\xxx.xxx.xxx\xx\CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA\\xxx_Reference.pdf

What’s with …CORP\smANY‡EPTDATA… and how do I prevent it from altering what I’m 
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[Framers] OT: Word links to URLs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

I have a Word project where I have references to other documents. The text
in Word has the title, but I want to create a link to the document's URL on
a web page. Here are my questions:

 

1) When I put the links in Word, will they work in a resulting PDF?

 

2) Is there a way to internally (perhaps with VBA) see the Word text and the
corresponding link URL? Some of the URLs are changing and it would be useful
to be able to batch search on a title and replace the link's old URL with
the new one.

 

I have about 160 Word files so I would like to be able to apply some
automation here. Thank you in advance for any information you can provide.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

[Rick Quatro]

Today it would be:

"There is not enough budget to do a useful index, so look carefully through
the entire document."

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Subject: [Framers] OT: Friday Funnies

So, an excerpt from the introduction to the Sears, Roebuck and Company
catalogue, 1897:

 

"If you don't find it in the index, look very carefully through the entire
catalogue."

 

Wonder how that would go over in today's writing world? Think I should
preface all my indices with this disclaimer? 

 

TGIF,

 

TVB

 

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Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

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Re: [Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

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While you can set multiple flows to Autoconnect, in reality only the one
that makes the new page autoconnects to the previous frame.

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Main text (flow A) and sidebar (flow B). Ideally, neither should run over to
a second page, but this will be a multi-page document.

Is that's the intended behavior, it sucks. Why would I want an
auto-connected flow to disconnect itself?

Pat

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Hi Pat,

I am pretty sure that is how it works when you have multiple flows. What are
you using the second flow for? Thanks.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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Subject: [Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

I'm building a template that has 2 flows (A and B). Each flow appears on
every page and I've checked that Autoconnect is enabled in text frames on
master and body pages. The problem is when one flow overflows and creates
new page, the other flow is disconnected from its flow on the new page.

FrameMaker 2017, Windows.

Any help will be appreciated.


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Re: [Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Pat,

I am pretty sure that is how it works when you have multiple flows. What are
you using the second flow for? Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Problems in multiple flows?

I'm building a template that has 2 flows (A and B). Each flow appears on
every page and I've checked that Autoconnect is enabled in text frames on
master and body pages. The problem is when one flow overflows and creates
new page, the other flow is disconnected from its flow on the new page.

FrameMaker 2017, Windows.

Any help will be appreciated.


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Re: [Framers] toolbar button images missing - custom toolbar - FrameMaker 2017

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Hi Gayle,

Welcome to the list. Klaus Daube is one of the FrameMaker interface experts.
Take a look at his web site:

http://daube.ch/docu/fmaker00.html#internals

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Subject: [Framers] toolbar button images missing - custom toolbar -
FrameMaker 2017

Hello!

I am a bit puzzled and wonder if anyone has an answer for me. With the help
of a superuser, I created custom toolbars for FrameMaker 8 and then
FrameMaker 2015. They worked wonderfully.

These toolbars do appear in nnstructured FrameMaker 2017 and the buttons
actually work, but the button images are missing.

The custom toolbars were added to:
C:\Users\gmoore\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\14\WorkSpaces\UnStructured\
WYSIWYGView\toolbars

Also placed there was the updated fmtoolbar.xml (overwriting original
install file).

This is what I see.
[cid:image001.jpg@01D3175E.32D8F3C0]

In the toolbar XML files, I've tried to update the image location pathway
numerous times. I originally had them placed them in: C:\Program Files
(x86)\Adobe\Adobe FrameMaker 2017\Images. This image is just me putting in
any old pathway now in desperation.

[cid:image002.jpg@01D3175F.3353D3A0]


Does anyone know how to get the images to appear in the toolbar?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Gayle

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Re: [Framers] Table default setting change?

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The table format's numbering can be stored as part of the Table Format.
Change the Table Format and Update All and when you insert a new table, you
will have the numbering you want.

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Subject: [Framers] Table default setting change?

FrameMaker 11.0

We routinely use "column-first" numbering when we insert a multi-column
table beneath an exploded view graphic.

The default, however, is "row-first" numbering.

Can this default be changed and, if so, exactly where and how? (An ini file
of some kind?)
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Re: [Framers] Can the opening banner in FM11 be hacked

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You're asking too much :-). You can't configure FrameMaker to only store
.book files as recently visited. Here is a suggestion:

1) Create a small text file with the list of the paths to the books you want
to access. Put in somewhere easy to get to, like your Desktop.

2) Create a shortcut to your maker.ini on the Desktop.

3) Before launching FrameMaker, copy the paths to your books to the
maker.ini file and save it.

Now when you launch FrameMaker, the recently visited list should just show
your books.

This is probably not the best way to do this; you are probably better to
create a batch file that will launch your books. Or, create a Windows
library and add the .book files to it.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Can the opening banner in FM11 be hacked

Rick...this doesn't look like a configurable item...it just lists..at least
the FM docs don't define config options..

I was hoping for an ON/OFF option for Files and Books.

Thanks anyway.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:

> Yes, the recent files should be listed in the maker.ini file that is 
> in the C:\Users\AppData\Roaming... etc. location. The ini section is 
> called [RecentlyVisitedFiles].
>
> Rick
>
>
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> Subject: [Framers] Can the opening banner in FM11 be hacked
>
> When you launch FM11, you have the block that includes Recent Items, 
> Create New, Templates, and Resources.
>
> In Recent Items, it includes the last 8 opens, both books and files.
>
> As I never open a file without opening the book first, I'd like this 
> banner to only show the last 8 books and not bother showing files.
>
> Is there maybe something in an INI file that defines this?
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Re: [Framers] Can the opening banner in FM11 be hacked

[Rick Quatro]

Yes, the recent files should be listed in the maker.ini file that is in the
C:\Users\AppData\Roaming... etc. location. The ini section is called
[RecentlyVisitedFiles].

Rick


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Subject: [Framers] Can the opening banner in FM11 be hacked

When you launch FM11, you have the block that includes Recent Items, Create
New, Templates, and Resources.

In Recent Items, it includes the last 8 opens, both books and files.

As I never open a file without opening the book first, I'd like this banner
to only show the last 8 books and not bother showing files.

Is there maybe something in an INI file that defines this?


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Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Pat,

It could be that the file format has changed a bit between versions. Try
creating a custom workspace in FrameMaker 2017 and then examine it with a
text editor. You may be able to see if something has changed in the content
of the XML file.

Rick

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Hi Rick -

I found some info online and you have it right (for the most part). But my
custom workspaces still don't show up. I've tried restarting FrameMaker. Now
I'll try restarting Windows.

Thanks -

Pat

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi Pat,

The short answer is that I don't know for sure, BUT: workspace files are XML
files, so you should be able to get them from your current installation and
copy them to the new installation. They are located at

C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\\WorkSpa
ces

where  is your Windows login name and  is the
FrameMaker version number. The workspace files have .cfws extension on them,
but they are simply XML files.

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Subject: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi -

We are finally upgrading to Frame 2017.

Is there a way to import our custom workspaces? Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Import workspace?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Pat,

The short answer is that I don't know for sure, BUT: workspace files are XML
files, so you should be able to get them from your current installation and
copy them to the new installation. They are located at

C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\FrameMaker\\WorkSpa
ces

where  is your Windows login name and  is the
FrameMaker version number. The workspace files have .cfws extension on them,
but they are simply XML files.

Klause Daube may have more information about workspace files:

http://daube.ch/docu/fmaker00.html

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Import workspace?

Hi -

We are finally upgrading to Frame 2017.

Is there a way to import our custom workspaces? Thanks.


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Re: [Framers] Embedding attachments in FM that remain attachments when PDF'd

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Hi John,

TimeSavers allows you to do this. For a sample, go here

http://microtype.com/showcase.html

and click the Custom Shortcuts section. The first sample has an example of
embedding files.

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Subject: [Framers] Embedding attachments in FM that remain attachments when
PDF'd

I need to embed some Excel and Word documents as ICONS into my FM docs that
when PDF'd remain as attachments that can be clicked and will open.

All my experiences with FM11 are when PDF's, the attachment icons turn into
inert graphic icons.

Is there a way?

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Re: [Framers] Can I make a setting that will launch 4 books?

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Hi John,

What do you mean by "load"? Do you want to automatically open the .book
files and/or all of the .fm files in all 4 books? Thanks.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of John Posada
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 4:50 PM
To: FrameUsers List
Subject: [Framers] Can I make a setting that will launch 4 books?

Hi, guys...over the next 2 weeks, I need to have 4 books loaded. Is there a
setting I can make that when I launch FM, I can load all four books without
having to go book by book?


--
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Rock portfolio: http://www.actionremembered.com/musicportfolio
Twitter: @rockbandphotos
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[Framers] Smart Paste Tutorial

[Rick Quatro]

Hi,

 

I am trying to use the Smart Paste feature in FrameMaker 2015 to convert an
XML snippet to a slightly different structure. I am looking for a small
tutorial or example of how to set this up. All of the DITA Smart Paste
stylesheets are large and hard to decode. If I had a simple example, I am
sure I can figure out how to make mine work. Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] Old bug: Find does not find - character CR stops search

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Klaus,

Text imported from word contains a line-feed/return combination at the end
of each paragraph. In many of my scripts, I strip out the invisible
line-feed character to "normalize" things in the document. Round-tripping to
MIF does the same thing. The import filter should do this automatically, but
it doesn't, at least since the last time I checked.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 3:49 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Old bug: Find does not find - character CR stops search

Dear all,

A colleague in Germany again run into this old trap. Hence I have filed bug
FRMAKER-3169 : Find does not find - character CR stops search

I have first documented this problem for FM-7. At that time the reason was
an import from Word. But it turns out that is not the only possible cause
(as the colleague said). It was quite difficult to shrink down his file to a
two-page test case:
As soon as I cut out some text, the problem was gone! So it took me several
attempts to shrink down the document to a short test case (2h).

There are other strange things with these \x0d:
«It also happens that opening the file multiple times - with searching for
the word - and then closing without save - suddenly lets you find the
word... If once found, you need to restart FM (without save of cours) to get
the Find problem again. It even may happen that intensive scrolling back and
forth 'cleans' the document.»

MIF wash cures the document!
But first you must have the idea that it can be cured...
Klaus~~
Klaus Daube Phone:  +41-44-381 37 77
Schäracher 11   Mail:   kl...@daube.ch
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Re: [Framers] Save as PDF

[Rick Quatro]

What Job Option file are you using? Make sure you are using High Quality
Print or Press Quality.

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Austin Meredith
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:56 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Save as PDF

   Here's a warning for users of "Save as PDF" -- Adobe has just
   "upgraded" Acrobat Pro DC to 2017.009.20058 and this has rendered the
   images it generates unusably blurry. I am dead in the water, unable to
   render my FM files into PDFs and thus update my online PDFs at
   http://[1]www.kouroo.info. Check this out and, if your new generated
   images have likewise been rendered unusably blurry, please protest. I
   have myself attempted to protest to Adobe, but since my subscription to
   Acrobat is an institutional subscription by way of a university, I do
   not have a personal registration number to offer and therefore there is
   no way for me to get past their "qualifications" people in India, to
   inform the Adobe technical team about this new glitch.

References

   1. http://www.kouroo.info/
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Re: [Framers] Hairline Frame Borders (Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1)

[Rick Quatro]

You can still specify whatever line width you want, including those less
than 1 point; you just can't do so with the goofy slider on the tool bar.
While using an Object Style is the preferred solution for the original
poster, here is an alternative approach:

1) Make sure the Tools palette is displayed (View > Toolbars > Graphics
Toolbar).

2) Set the desired border width and pen properties on an anchored frame by
choose Graphics > Object Properties.

3) With the anchored frame still selected, press the Shift key and choose
Graphics > Pick up Object Properties. This will "load" the selected frame's
properties as the default on the Tool palette.

4) Select another anchored frame and click the "Set Pen Pattern" button and
"Set Line Width" button on the Toolbar. Click the buttons on the left, not
the sliders on the left.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Michael Heine
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 8:48 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Hairline Frame Borders (Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1)

Alan -
I was stuck with the same problem. Copying from earlier versions hadn't
occurred to me, a good idea. I guess there'll have to be hairlines on them
there reference pages from now on. Why would the >1 pt option be removed?
Strange notion, that.
Mike

Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2017 16:48:21 +
From: "Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1)"<as...@ariens.com>
To:"framers@lists.frameusers.com"  <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: [Framers] Hairline Frame Borders
Message-ID:<3fe498aae13948a6a2d2716e58592...@ariens.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello all,

We just updated to FM2017 and are unable to find a feature available in
earlier versions.

Our publication style requires a black hairline (.5 line weight) for
anchored frames surrounding illustrations. Now it appears that "1" is the
lowest width available on the slider bar when adding a new frame.

How do I set my line weights to allow this thinner line as a default? At
this point we've resorted to copying and pasting .5 frames from 2015 files.

Thanks,
Alan

Alan Salo | Manager, Technical Publications


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London Canada
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Re: [Framers] Hairline Frame Borders

[Rick Quatro]

Or, set up an Object Style so you can apply the border from the Object Style
Catalog.

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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Klaus Daube
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 3:17 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Hairline Frame Borders

On 19 Jul 2017 at 16:48, Alan Salo (Ariens Plant 1) wrote:

> Our publication style requires a black hairline (.5 line weight) for 
> anchored frames surrounding illustrations. Now it appears that "1" is 
> the lowest width available on the slider bar when adding a new frame.
> 
> How do I set my line weights to allow this thinner line as a default? 
> At this point we've resorted to copying and pasting .5 frames from 
> 2015 files.

Alan,

After You have created the frame with arbitrary border,
- select it
- Use Graphic > Object Properties
- Select Stroke in the left list
- Enter 0.5 in the Line Width field
- Click Apply

HTH
Klaus
~~
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Re: [Framers] Mapping Styles in FrameMaker

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Gillian,

Here is a link to my tool:

http://frameautomation.com/findchangeformatsbatch/

(Thank you Monique!)

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers
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Of gill6...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:50 PM
To: framers
Subject: [Framers] Mapping Styles in FrameMaker

We have a new company template for FrameMaker docs. 

We have a lot of legacy guides, and we're now required to switch all of the
docs to the new templates. The new templates use different paragraph and
character format names. 

I need some sort of script to rename, or remap the old names to the new
names, so that when I import the new template, it automatically changes the
text to the new formats. 

Does anyone know of some sort of tag mapping tool or script for doing this? 

Thanks,
Gillian
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Re: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of references

[Rick Quatro]

Thank you Yves!

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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:41 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of
references

Hi Rick

I knew you 'd have a clever script like PathChanger. ;-)

I think my customer can use this. His main problem was actually to collect
all the files in a FrameMaker book to send them out for translation. Fm's
Package feature didn't work well, so I have already shown him where he can
purchase ArchiveES:

http://frameautomation.com/category/extendscript/

And now I see that this is also the place where we can find more information
on PathChanger:

http://frameautomation.com/solving-path-problems-with-pathchanger/

Thank you very much, again, Rick! You rock! ;-)

Cheers

Yves



On 18 July 2017 at 16:19, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:

> Hi Yves,
>
> My PathChanger script will write out all of the absolute paths in a 
> book (images, cross-references, book components, etc.) to a csv file 
> which can be opened in Excel. The purpose of the script is to allow 
> you to globally changed referenced paths in case files get moved, 
> images unresolved, etc.
> But you could also use it to view the absolute paths.
>
> Alternatively, a script could be written that could show the absolute 
> path to a selected image, book component, etc. Let me know what you 
> envision as the best solution for your problem. Thanks.
>
> Rick
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Yves Barbion
> Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:44 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of 
> references
>
> Hi Framers
>
> If the path to a referenced file is really long, FrameMaker displays 
> ..\ in the FrameMaker book or ../ in the List of References, for example:
>
> ..\..\..\..\..\..\safety.fm in the Fm book
>
> or
>
> ../../../../../warning_icon.png
>
> Is there a way to see the full path instead?
>
> Thanks
>
> Yves
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Re: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of references

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Yves,

My PathChanger script will write out all of the absolute paths in a book
(images, cross-references, book components, etc.) to a csv file which can be
opened in Excel. The purpose of the script is to allow you to globally
changed referenced paths in case files get moved, images unresolved, etc.
But you could also use it to view the absolute paths.

Alternatively, a script could be written that could show the absolute path
to a selected image, book component, etc. Let me know what you envision as
the best solution for your problem. Thanks.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 2:44 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Display full path in FrameMaker book or list of
references

Hi Framers

If the path to a referenced file is really long, FrameMaker displays ..\ in
the FrameMaker book or ../ in the List of References, for example:

..\..\..\..\..\..\safety.fm in the Fm book

or

../../../../../warning_icon.png

Is there a way to see the full path instead?

Thanks

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

[Rick Quatro]

File > Import > Formats works at the book level.

-Original Message-
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Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

You'd still have to update the variable in every file.

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:
> I would suggest using a User Variable for the address and add that to 
> the Master Pages. That way, you can update the Variable's Definition 
> and the Master Page content will be updated.
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Re: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10

[Rick Quatro]

I would suggest using a User Variable for the address and add that to the
Master Pages. That way, you can update the Variable's Definition and the
Master Page content will be updated.

Rick Quatro
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[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Harvey Rosenfeld
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 1:45 PM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: [Framers] Correcting Master Pages in FM10
Importance: High

Hi! I am working in FM10. I have a series of Master Pages that I use for my
company's publications. I need to update an address that appears in the text
of one of the Master Pages. When I work on a publication that uses that
Master Page, I can open the Master Page and make the correction. However,
the corrected address only appears in that publication. The next time I open
the Master Page to include it in another publication, the old address is
still there. I want to correct the "source" for the Master Page so that
every time I open it for future publications, it will already contain the
new address.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Harvey Rosenfeld
Harvey Rosenfeld
Electronic Editorial and
Production Specialist
ANSI


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Re: [Framers] A bit off subject

[Rick Quatro]

Since there is no "standard" XML file, it is difficult to have a ready-made
conversion tool. If you send me a small before/after sample, I will be glad
to see what can be done. Thanks.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Mikey Shine
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:47 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] A bit off subject

I'm often sent XML files that I need to first save as a tab-delimited TXT
file before importing into Frame to convert to a table. 

Does anyone know of a software that may be able to batch convert XML to
tab-delimited TXT files? 


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Re: [Framers] Converting to Word for Review

[Rick Quatro]

The PDF export seems a bit more reliable, plus you can export your entire
book. With FrameMaker, you can only do one file at a time. Neither way is
reliable for round-tripping back to FrameMaker.

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-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Caroline Tabach
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2017 8:37 AM
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: [Framers] Converting to Word for Review

Hi
Converting Frame to Word for review
What do you recommend
Export from PDF or Export from Frame?  Version 2015

Caroline Tabach
Technical/Marcom Writer
T. +972-77-7745-042
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[Framers] Wanted: S1000D Expert

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers,

 

I have a client that wants to develop manuals using S1000D. Any experts out
there? Let  me know and I will connect you with the client. Thank you very
much.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

[Rick Quatro]

Hi David,

The letter-colon combination is called a series label. But in this case you 
don't want to have a different series label for each format. When more than one 
format has numbering that is related, they should have the same series label. 
See my videos for details.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of David Spreadbury
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:28 PM
To: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

Try changing where you have F: to a different letter; F for the first one, G 
for the secong, etc. Each numbering value should have it's own unique 
character. There is a name for that character but it escapes me right now.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:11 PM, 
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:   This 
one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
simple solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works fine, as 
long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, such as 
1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the ordering 
doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c (under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from the 
last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< >.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under the 
level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t



FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged 
with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t





Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

[Rick Quatro]

 should be . The 1 doesn't have any effect on the counter.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:17 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small
letters

You need to add one more level to the F:< >< >.\sn\t.

It should be

F:< >< >*< >*.\sn\t


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM,  wrote:

> This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
> simple solution that I'm overlooking.
>
> I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. 
> Level
> 1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works 
> fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list.
> However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle 
> somewhere, such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to 
> level 1 at 3, the ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, 
> as in 1, 2, a, b, c (under 2), and 6.
>
> What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue 
> from the last level 1 tag?
>
> For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.
>
> FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: 
> F:<
> >< >.\t
>
>
> FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly 
> under the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
> FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item 
> tagged with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Beiswenger
> Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation
>
> Emhart Glass Inc.
> 74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA Telephone 1 607 735 
> 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 
> tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com 
> www.bucherindustries.com
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tom,

Try something like this:

FigureLegend:
F:< >< ><n+>< =0>

FigureLegend_alpha:
F:< >< >< ><a+>

Without seeing the rest of the numbering, I am not sure if you need the
first two place holders (< >) in each one.

For a good understanding of FrameMaker autonumbers, you should watch my 20
minute video:

http://frameautomation.com/framemaker-autonumber-primer/

Then, watch this follow up video, which is about 16 minutes:

http://frameautomation.com/advanced-autonumber-concepts/

In just over a half-an-hour, you will be an autonumber expert!

Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017






-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:11 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty simple
solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works fine,
as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, such
as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the
ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c
(under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from the
last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< ><n+>.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under
the level 1 item: F:< >< ><a+1>.\sn\t



FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged 
with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< ><a+1>.\sn\t





Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
www.bucheremhartglass.com
www.bucherindustries.com
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Re: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

[Rick Quatro]

ImportFormatsSpecialES allows you to just import system variables and/or
user variables. You can't specify individual variables, but you can just
import one category or the other (or both). It also breaks down document
properties into different categories so you can choose which ones you want
to import.

See https://www.swreg.org/com/storefront/30731/


Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 12:14 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Tool for importing selected variables

Happy Wednesday all.

 

In the distant reaches of my mind, I seem to recall a tool that would allow
you to import only selected variables from one doc to another - such as only
system variables or only user-defines variables.  Am I remembering correctly
and if so, what is the name/where  can I get this tool? 

 

If the tool never existed or is no longer available, then maybe this sounds
like a job for our super-scripter Rick Quatro?

 

TIA,

 

TVB

 

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

Tammy dot Vanboening at spectrumwritingllc.com

303-840-1755

 

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

[Rick Quatro]

All good points about InDesign and people not using styles, etc. One other 
issue about indexes: I happen to be working on a 438 page InDesign book today 
and I started generated the index about an hour and fifteen minutes ago and it 
still hasn't finished. I am working on a machine with a Xeon process and 64 
gigs of RAM!

Rick

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On Behalf Of Tori Muir
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 3:15 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

Regrettably, that isn't necessarily true. A lot of the folks who use InD are 
first and foremost *designers*, and have no qualms about hand-formatting 
everything on the page to produce a lovely composition. It can be very 
difficult to get users with that mindset to switch to a 
structure-based/formats-driven viewpoint. Additionally, a huge number of the 
InD users I've worked with/trained in long document work can't even set up an 
auto-bulleted paragraph, let alone autonumbering, and I shudder to think what 
would happen if they tried indexing. 

I would qualify the below statement by saying that if they are already using 
InD the way one needs to use Frame, you'll have no problem training them. If, 
on the other hand, their preferred approach is to use InD the way one might use 
Illustrator, you're in for a rough ride. I'll never forget the time a client 
had me update the InD files for their product catalog: 235 pages containing 
~800 products, a TOC and an  index, without a single paragraph/character format 
defined, no generated TOC or index, no book files, not even auto-connected text 
flows from page to page. The most advanced thing they'd done was add a page 
number to the master page.  But the catalog *looked* lovely!

Tori Muir


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[Framers] ANN: Contract Structured FrameMaker Author

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

One of my clients is looking for a contract author to work on aircraft
manuals in structured FrameMaker. I don't have any details regarding pay,
time frame, etc. If you are interested, send me an email offlist and I will
forward it to my client. Thanks.

 

Rick

 

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585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Mikey,

The first question I always ask is "Why?" Is it because of InDesign's superior 
color handling and typography, and those are required for this publication? Is 
it because content providers or primary authors already have InDesign? Is it 
because IT supports Creative Cloud apps but doesn't want to support FrameMaker? 
Is it because somebody in the company thinks FrameMaker is dead? Without 
answers to questions like this, it is difficult to provide you with pros/cons.

I have done several of these conversions over the years. I have also convinced 
others to stay with FrameMaker because (based on the answers to the questions 
above) it didn't make sense to switch. I would be glad to meet with you off 
list to get more details and give you some suggestions. Thanks.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Mikey Shine
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:23 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] FrameMaker vs InDesign

My company has informed me that they’d like to switch one of our major 
publications over from FrameMaker to InDesign. If conversion is not an option, 
they wouldn’t be opposed to rebuilding the entire publication from scratch as 
an InDesign document.

Has anyone gone through this process before? What were some hurdles that were 
faced?

Outside of that can anyone enlighten me with pros/cons for having this 
publication remain a FrameMaker document vs moving it to InDesign? 

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Re: [Framers] active URLs spanning more than one line

[Rick Quatro]

Carol, I am pretty sure Monique is right. In Acrobat's preferences, General
Category, uncheck Create links from URLs. -Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] active URLs spanning more than one line

A remote possibility: The publish process isn't actually creating the
hyperlink, but it appears so because Acrobat generally (by default, I
believe) creates links from URLs (via the "Preferences > General > Create
links form URLs" setting). If this is the case, then I'd guess it's
Acrobat's rendering that's at issue, and that ensuring that the production
process is actually using the format and creating the links would fix the
problem. 

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[Framers] ANN: "Live" FrameSLT Conversion

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

I recently had one of my "anti-webinars" showing FrameSLT, West Street
Consulting's excellent FrameMaker plugin. But I forgot to record the
webinar! 

 

Yesterday, I got a request from a client to do a conversion of about 125
Word tables to structured FrameMaker. I used FrameSLT to help with the
conversion and I recorded the entire process. Now you can see a real-world
example of how useful and powerful FrameSLT is. This is a raw, unedited
video, except that I paused the recording during long operations. The video
is just under an hour long.

 

http://www.frameexpert.com/videos/FrameSLT_Conversion.html

 

Please let me know if you have any questions about FrameSLT or XPath. Thank
you very much.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

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The main reason for two different MIF versions is that FrameMaker 8 and
above is unicode "compliant" while FrameMaker 7 and below uses the
FrameRoman character set. I am not sure what this means in practice; in
other words, if you open a 2015 MIF file with FrameMaker 7, will there be
problems with certain characters? I haven't tried it so I don't know.

-Original Message-
From: Bertrand Meyer [mailto:bertrand.me...@inf.ethz.ch] 
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 9:25 AM
To: 'Rick Quatro'; 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker
software.'
Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch
Subject: RE: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

Simple. My license is purchased. With Adobe's licensing scheme, I am
concerned that if for example my computer dies I could lose access to
FrameMaker 2015 any time and hence lose access to my documents. My
experience of dealing with Adobe is not good (euphemism) and I fear it could
take weeks to get the license back, if at all. I have licenses for earlier
versions on various platforms and with a MIF 7.0 I can in an emergency get
access to my documents.

By the way, going to an incompatible version of MIF was a betrayal of the
FrameMaker tradition. It had always been the case that in processing MIF
files the tool took a hands-off approach to MIF, in the spirit of XML: new
versions could add all the new features they wanted, but when retrieving a
document FrameMaker would ignore anything it did not understand, so that as
long as you did not use the new features you were safe and could go back to
an old version. That is the idea behind MIF: "I" stands for Interchange. 

For the record I have been using FrameMaker since 1991  and have written
something like 12 books and dozens of articles with it. I cannot afford to
lose them. 

-- Bertrand Meyer

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Subject: RE: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

Hi Bertrand,

What is your reason for saving as MIF 7.0 instead of MIF 2015? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
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585-366-4017




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Of Bertrand Meyer
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:32 AM
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch
Subject: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

FrameMaker 2015, 13.00.333

1. I am saving in MIF 7.0. Any way to get rid of the pesky dialog that warns
me each time that I am losing information (I am not)?  It's driving me
crazy.
2. I unchecked "Auto backup on Save" in Preferences, but I still get my
folders polluted with silly x.auto.fm files. How can I get rid of them?

These issues did not arise with earlier versions. 

Thanks in advance,

-- Bertrand Meyer

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Re: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Bertrand,

What is your reason for saving as MIF 7.0 instead of MIF 2015? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:32 AM
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Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch
Subject: [Framers] Frame 15 UI annoyances

FrameMaker 2015, 13.00.333

1. I am saving in MIF 7.0. Any way to get rid of the pesky dialog that warns
me each time that I am losing information (I am not)?  It's driving me
crazy.
2. I unchecked "Auto backup on Save" in Preferences, but I still get my
folders polluted with silly x.auto.fm files. How can I get rid of them?

These issues did not arise with earlier versions. 

Thanks in advance,

-- Bertrand Meyer

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Re: [Framers] ANN: FrameSLT Anti-Webinar

[Rick Quatro]

 

FrameSLT Anti-Webinar

 

Thu, May 18, 2017 2:00 PM - 3:00 PM EDT

 

Please join my meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.

https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/377964037

 

You can also dial in using your phone.

United States: +1 (872) 240-3212

 

Access Code: 377-964-037

 

 

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Re: [Framers] ANN: Impromptu Anti-Webinar: Using FrameSLT to Cleanup Structured Docs

[Rick Quatro]

I will have some open slots for this webinar starting at 2:00 pm EDT, but I
want to make sure that those that responded get a spot. I am using
GoToMeeting, which as a 26 attendee limit. So as soon as the meeting starts
and those that responded join, I will post the meeting link on the list.
Feel free to join in!

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

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[Framers] ANN: Impromptu Anti-Webinar: Using FrameSLT to Cleanup Structured Docs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

If you are using conversion tables to convert unstructured FrameMaker
documents to structured FrameMaker, you know that conversion tables only get
you part of the way to valid XML. Cleaning up the last 10-20% can be slow
and tedious. Enter FrameSLT, Russ Ward's ingenious FrameMaker plugin that
uses XPath and a simple, but powerful scripting language that can help
automate the cleanup of structured documents.

 

I am going to host a short webinar to introduce FrameSLT and how I used it
to solve a simple structured cleanup problem for a client. The webinar will
be at 2:00 pm EDT this afternoon. Please email me if you want to attend and
I will send you an invitation.

 

Remember, an anti-webinar means no sponsors, no boring slides, or
promotional fluff, just simple demonstrations from the trenches. Email me as
soon as possible and I will send you an invite. 

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] Big thumbs up for Rick Quatro's latest script

[Rick Quatro]

Definitely semi-spam, but who am I to complain? :-)

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 1:36 PM
To: Framers List; writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com; 
lone-tech-writ...@googlegroups.com; STC Lone Writer SIG
Subject: [Framers] Big thumbs up for Rick Quatro's latest script

OK, this may be semi-spam, but I just received a great FrameScript from Rick 
Quatro and wanted to share.

It rips through either a book or file and removes any spaces from files names, 
reference graphics, text insets, and other imported items.* Both in the Frame 
file and in the source file.*

W
hich means that documents written with Windows or Mac file naming conventions 
(or just sloppy file naming) HTML and UNIX compliant, a huge deal for those of 
us using Frame to output to multiple formats including HTML.

C
heers,
Art
​
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Re: [Framers] Structured import: Sizing the image as well as the anchored frame

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tino,

Thank you very much for the information. I was hoping for a "fit" option
that will proportionately scale the image to the anchored frame. At this
point, I am using a script and they may be the best option.

Rick

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[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Heiko Haida
Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 3:20 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured import: Sizing the image as well as the
anchored frame

Hi Rick, 

for example, in our standard XML, a graphic is represented like this: 

 

As you can see, there are a lot more entries, "height" and "width"
belong to the frame, the size of the graphic itself is defined in "impsize".
In this case, FM was used as XML editor, so that there is no need to
translate all these attributes. The r/w-rule only says: 

element "Graphic" {
  is fm graphic element;
} 

You would have to add either "impsize" attributes or "dpi" values. 
I do not think this could be done by a r/w-rule.

Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin 

Rick Quatro:

> Hi All,
> 
> I have a structured application that imports EPS images into the 
> document. I have a couple of read/write rules for sizing the anchored
frame:
> 
> attribute "width" is fm property width; attribute "height" is fm 
> property height;
> 
> Here is the xml markup:
> 
> 
> 
> When I import this into FrameMaker, I get the correct sizing on the 
> anchored frame. However, the EPS does not get scaled at all. Is there 
> a Read/Write rule or some other way to proportionately scale the EPS 
> to fit the anchored frame?
> 
> I can do it with a script, but I don't want to miss a better way. Thanks.
> 
> Rick
> 
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
> 
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[Framers] Structured import: Sizing the image as well as the anchored frame

[Rick Quatro]

Hi All,

I have a structured application that imports EPS images into the document. I
have a couple of read/write rules for sizing the anchored frame:

attribute "width" is fm property width;
attribute "height" is fm property height;

Here is the xml markup:



When I import this into FrameMaker, I get the correct sizing on the anchored
frame. However, the EPS does not get scaled at all. Is there a Read/Write
rule or some other way to proportionately scale the EPS to fit the anchored
frame?

I can do it with a script, but I don't want to miss a better way. Thanks.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




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Re: [Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Kunal,

Yes, that solves the problem for me. Thank you very much.

Rick

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From: Kunal Saini [mailto:ksa...@adobe.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 8:01 AM
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Cc: Lynne A. Price (lpr...@txstruct.com); Rick Quatro (r...@rickquatro.com)
Subject: RE: [Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

Hi Lynn and Rick,

We have updated xerces to a later version(3.1) with updater 1. This changed
DLL name from  'xerces-c_2_7.dll' to 'xerces-c_3_1.dll' which could be a
reason for these failures Can you please try copying 'xerces-c_2_7.dll' from
FM2015(as FM2017 Updater 1 deletes 2.7 version) to fm_home.

Please mail me at: ksa...@adobe.com if you need this dll.

Thanks
Kunal


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On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
Sent: 10 May 2017 17:12
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
Subject: Re: [Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

Hi Yves,

Yes, this has happened to me with one of the FrameScript DLLs and others
have complained on the Adobe Forums as well.

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fforums.adob
e.com%2Fthread%2F2311198=02%7C01%7C%7C195774a237fd41cf82dc08d497999dad%
7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636300133430941082=DA5wIi
qFAnNE9eMNkVu8XW5157jTMzSy6WkyNPgd3ow%3D=0

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017

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Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

Hi group

I had plugins for Fm 2017 which worked fine in 14.0.0 but installing 14.0.1
seems to have killed them:

"Cannot initalize API client"

Is anyone else seeing this?

Cheers

Yves
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Re: [Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Yves,

Yes, this has happened to me with one of the FrameScript DLLs and others
have complained on the Adobe Forums as well.

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2311198

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017

-Original Message-
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Of Yves Barbion
Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 7:33 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Plugins no longer work after installing Fm 14.0.1

Hi group

I had plugins for Fm 2017 which worked fine in 14.0.0 but installing 14.0.1
seems to have killed them:

"Cannot initalize API client"

Is anyone else seeing this?

Cheers

Yves
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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

[Rick Quatro]

MIF is more complete than the save as XML of unstructured documents. For 
example, I don't think markers come out in the XML, but they would certainly 
appear in the MIF file.

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Art Campbell
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2017 7:21 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.; Scott Prentice
Subject: Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

XSLT wouldn't be trivial but it's doable by mere mortals.

Scott (or anyone): What would be the reason to go this route instead of a 
straight save to FM XML?

My original reason for posting was to get cleaner RTF/Word than FM is putting 
out, but this feels like overkill...

Cheers,
Art


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   DoD 358


On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Scott Prentice <s...@leximation.com> wrote:

> MIFML .. http://leximation.com/tools/mifml/
>
> This (free) command line utility converts from MIF to MIFML (and back 
> if you want). I haven't touched it in years but from what I've been 
> told by others it still works fine.
>
> You just have to write some XSLT to transform from the MIFML into 
> something useful.
>
> Cheers,
> ...scott
>
>
>
> On 5/1/17 5:38 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>
>> I think Scott Prentice was developing a MIF to XML converter. To me, 
>> that would give the most options for conversions to some of the other 
>> formats.
>> Scott, is your converter still available? Thanks.
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> r...@frameexpert.com
>> 585-366-4017
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=r 
>> ickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 6:10 PM
>> To: Art Campbell; Framers List; writers--techies-on-framemaker 
>> @googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?
>>
>> It did not work with FM 2015, and I was working on going the MIF2Go 
>> source to see if I could update it.
>>
>> Unfortunately, my temporary license for FM 2015 expired before I made 
>> any real progress, so the project stalled.
>>
>> Now that FM 2017 is out, I suspect it does not work. Although I have 
>> the MIF2Go sources, I don’t have access to a licensed version of FM 
>> 2017, so cannot resurrect this effort.
>>
>> Separately, however, I have made much progress on a MIF file 
>> reader/analyzer to do a LaTeX convertor for myself – my current 
>> process is manual.
>>
>> I need a lot more MIF material to test my code with though - all my 
>> test files are from FM 12. So, I may, someday, provide a completely 
>> new MIF2Go equivalent for the community.
>>
>> In the meantime, sorry for the news, Art!
>>
>> Z
>>
>> From: writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Art 
>> Campbell
>> Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 09:07 AM
>> To: Framers List <framers@lists.frameusers.com>; 
>> writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?
>>
>> Works / doesn't work?
>>
>> Assuming it works, is there anything unique in the setup?
>>
>> I'm a little concerned that FM '17 can save to different MIF formats 
>> and wasn't sure how M2G would handle that.
>>
>> TIA,
>> Art
>>
>> Art Campbell
>> art.campb...@gmail.com<mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com>
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>> Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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>> apply.
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Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

[Rick Quatro]

I think Scott Prentice was developing a MIF to XML converter. To me, that would 
give the most options for conversions to some of the other formats. Scott, is 
your converter still available? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 6:10 PM
To: Art Campbell; Framers List; writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

It did not work with FM 2015, and I was working on going the MIF2Go source to 
see if I could update it.

Unfortunately, my temporary license for FM 2015 expired before I made any real 
progress, so the project stalled.

Now that FM 2017 is out, I suspect it does not work. Although I have the MIF2Go 
sources, I don’t have access to a licensed version of FM 2017, so cannot 
resurrect this effort.

Separately, however, I have made much progress on a MIF file reader/analyzer to 
do a LaTeX convertor for myself – my current process is manual.

I need a lot more MIF material to test my code with though - all my test files 
are from FM 12. So, I may, someday, provide a completely new MIF2Go equivalent 
for the community.

In the meantime, sorry for the news, Art!

Z

From: writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com 
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Campbell
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 09:07 AM
To: Framers List <framers@lists.frameusers.com>; 
writers--techies-on-framema...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WTF ramemaker] Anyone using MIF-to-Go with FM '17?

Works / doesn't work?

Assuming it works, is there anything unique in the setup?

I'm a little concerned that FM '17 can save to different MIF formats and wasn't 
sure how M2G would handle that.

TIA,
Art

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Re: [Framers] ebook from FM12

[Rick Quatro]

Bill,

FrameMaker 12 and higher has a Publish command that has EPub output. I am
not sure how good it is, but it would be worth trying. It might have been
added earlier than 12, but I can confirm that it is in 12, 2015, and 2017.

Rick

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From: Framers
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Of William Saylor
Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 5:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] ebook from FM12

Rick,

Unstructured is how it was created. I think fairly standard use of TOC,
Index, linked in graphics, imported MathType equations. Makes a great pdf
output file.
Bill

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Subject: Re: [Framers] ebook from FM12

Hi Bill,

Is the FrameMaker book structured or unstructured? Thanks.

Rick Quatro
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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 4:53 PM
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Subject: [Framers] ebook from FM12

I am using FM10 for a ~400 page technical book with lots of equations and
figures that is intended for BW paperback publishing. MathType for all of
the equations. I have an interest in generating an ebook from the FM book
since the FM book files will always be the reference copy for the document.
Any recommendations for software packages anyone finds particularly useful
for going from FM10 to ebook?

Thanks,

Bill

 




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Re: [Framers] ebook from FM12

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Hi Bill,

Is the FrameMaker book structured or unstructured? Thanks.

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Of William Saylor
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Subject: [Framers] ebook from FM12

I am using FM10 for a ~400 page technical book with lots of equations and
figures that is intended for BW paperback publishing. MathType for all of
the equations. I have an interest in generating an ebook from the FM book
since the FM book files will always be the reference copy for the document.
Any recommendations for software packages anyone finds particularly useful
for going from FM10 to ebook?

Thanks,

Bill

 




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Re: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Stefan,

The concept behind Freeze Pagination could be very useful for certain
categories of documentation. The way it is implemented in FrameMaker
severely limits its usefulness. Here are the major problems that occur when
you freeze pagination:

1. Paragraphs that break across a page are split into two paragraphs.
2. Tables that break across a page cause point pages to be added as soon as
the pagination is frozen.
3. Content after last page of a multi-page table is pushed to the following
page.
4. This may be the hardest to live with: autonumbers are reset on each page
because of the disconnected text frames.
5. You can't freeze pagination in a structured document.

I have a good client that uses point pages for documentation used in a
particular transportation sector. I wrote a "PointPages" plugin back in 2005
or so that overcame some of the limitations listed above. I sold a few
copies but you had to follow a specific process to get good results and I
got a disproportionate number of support requests, so I discontinued it. I
converted some of the key functionality to a set of FrameScript scripts so
that my client could still use point pages in her documentation. She still
uses it for her client today.

If you are curious about how I overcame the limitations of Freeze
Pagination, you can see the PointPages documentation at

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/PointPages.pdf

Be careful that you don't ask the wrong question about Freeze Pagination.
The question should not be "Do you use it?" You should ask, "Do you have a
need for a reliable point-page feature?" The answer to the first question
could be a reflection on the limitations of the feature in FrameMaker, not
the need for point pages in general. That said, I don't think there is a big
demand for point pages in general. I have had a few requests over the years,
but not a large amount.

As far as the existing command, my suggestion would be to leave it there.
Since it is not documented, it is not likely to become a support problem for
Adobe, but I know at least one client that still uses it. I can't see any
reason to take it out unless it is somehow "in the way" in the code.

But what about a Point Pages feature that actually works! I am not sure what
the demand is, but the simplest solution could be a way to apply custom
numbering to individual pages, just like custom numbering can be applied to
entire FrameMaker files (and book components). The premise behind Freeze
Pagination is that the point pages would be automatically created after
pagination was frozen. But I think people would give up this automated
aspect and be willing to apply the point page numbering "manually" if this
was available to them in FrameMaker. The users of my plugin were certainly
willing to do some manual work to get point pages in their docs.

Rick

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Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 5:20 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] "Secret" Freeze Pagination Feature

Hi Framers,

Klaus Daube reminded me a few days ago, that there are some "secret"
features in FrameMaker, that are still present in the product today, but are
no longer in the UI nor documented, especially "Freeze pagination" and "Open
Heroic". I'm currently going through them and discuss them with the product
managers and documentation team.

So, one of these "secret features" is "Freeze pagination": It's still
present in FM 2017 and can be accessed with Esc-p-z.

For those who do not know the feature: Let's say you have a 100-page
document with one text flow. On the master page you have a footer with a
page count variable (<$curpagenum>). Now you can "freeze pagination" which
will disconnect all text frames (that is, you get 100 disconnected pages
with a Text Flow "A"). Now you can add new disconnected pages between other
pages (called "point pages"). Or if you are at the end of a page and add new
content, a new page is added right next to the current page with a connect
text frame to the previous page. The page number will show a "point page
number" (e.g. when you add pages after page 7, they will be numbered as 7.1,
7.2 etc.).
The idea of this feature back in the days was to create "revision pages"
("point pages").

That said, I understand how the feature works, but in more than 20 years I
have never used it myself (never had a use case for it) nor met anyone ever
using it and all people I have asked in the last days who know this feature
told me the same (never had a use case).

My question to you:
- Has anyone ever used this feature when it was still present in the UI many
versions back?
- Is anyone still using 

Re: [Framers] Frame Help files

[Rick Quatro]

I don't know for sure, but I am assume that there are more customization
options with RoboHelp (and possibly more outputs).

Rick

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Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 12:27 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Frame Help files

Now that we can publish help from within FrameMaker, what do we need
Robohelp for?

-Gillian
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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Gillian,

Depending on your FrameMaker version: File > Publish and then choose Microsoft 
HTML Help.

Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 1:12 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 133, Issue 3

Matt,

How do you make a help file from FrameMaker? I link into Robohelp and then 
create help. As far as I know, Frame has no way to make help file. (Realize 
that we’re using unstructured Frame, not structured.)

-Gillian

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[Framers] FrameMaker 2017 Basic HTML

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Hi,

 

I am using the Basic HTML output from the new FrameMaker 2017. I have some
custom markers in my document that I want to output to the HTML stream,
preferably as an element or maybe a processing instruction. I don't see any
settings for marker output. Does anyone know if this is possible?

 

A suggestion for the Adobe team. How about a Basic XML option where markers
could be output as elements? Thanks.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] Changing default save as

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Brian,

There is no registry or preference setting for this, but it is fairly easy
to do it with ExtendScript, which is built into FrameMaker 10 and higher.
This blog posts outlines the process for saving as MIF, but it could be
easily modified to automatically save a 2017 file down to 2015.

http://frameautomation.com/automatically-saving-to-mif/

This is also a companion video at

http://www.screencast.com/t/5x7po0hTNb

Please let me know if you need help with this. Thanks.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Changing default save as

Hi,
The team I work with are all using FrameMaker 2015, but during the course of
this year, we'll all move to Fm 2017. The timing will be governed by the
expiry of the 2015 licences, they vary quite a bit across the team, so we
need a way to keep our files in the 2015 format until we've all converted.
Yes, we can save as 2015, but that would be labourious considering how many
times these files will be saved.
Is there a way to have Fm 2017 save by default as 2015. I've looked in the
2015 maker.ini file for a setting, but there doesn't seem to be anything
there. Is there somewhere else, maybe a registry setting? I'm sure that this
issue has been faced before, so how do teams get around this obstacle?
Thanks,

Brian Shaw
Technical Writer | Delivery Systems

Diebold Nixdorf
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[Framers] Imported .emf files are distorted

[Rick Quatro]

I have some .emf files that I am importing into FrameMaker 2015 and they
come in distorted. They are "squeezed" along the x-axis. When I view the
image doing Object Properties, FrameMaker reports it as being 100%. I have a
client with the exact same version of FrameMaker (same patches, etc.) and
when they import them they are not distorted. Has anyone else seen behavior
like this? Thanks.

 

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Re: [Framers] PDF Page Numbers

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Danny,

Yes, the new PageLabelerES does the same thing as the original plugin.

Rick

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Of Danny Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:44 AM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] PDF Page Numbers

Rick,

Thanks.  I didn't make my email really clear enough.  I meant to say the
pages numbers that appear in the thumbnail pages.  Will PageLabelerES still
do that?

Thanks

Danny

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> Hi Danny,
>
> The original PageLabeler plugin has been replaced by an ExtendScript 
> version, PageLabelerES, which works with FrameMaker 10 or higher. You 
> can find a link to the documentation here:
>
> http://frameautomation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/PageLabeler
> .pdf
>
> To purchase it, go to my store:
>
> https://www.swreg.org/com/storefront/30731/
>
> Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
>
>
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> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] PDF Page Numbers
>
> I have created technical manuals with Structured FrameMaker for quite 
> some time and used a plug in called PageLabeler on older FM versions 
> to keep the true pages numbers in PDF when distilled and published.  I 
> do not have access to the pug in any more.  Does it still exist, or is 
> there another method to preserve the true FM page numbers in the 
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Re: [Framers] PDF Page Numbers

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Danny,

The original PageLabeler plugin has been replaced by an ExtendScript
version, PageLabelerES, which works with FrameMaker 10 or higher. You can
find a link to the documentation here:

http://frameautomation.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/PageLabeler.pdf

To purchase it, go to my store:

https://www.swreg.org/com/storefront/30731/

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Rick Quatro
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Of Danny Green
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:16 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] PDF Page Numbers

I have created technical manuals with Structured FrameMaker for quite some
time and used a plug in called PageLabeler on older FM versions to keep the
true pages numbers in PDF when distilled and published.  I do not have
access to the pug in any more.  Does it still exist, or is there another
method to preserve the true FM page numbers in the produced PDF?  Thanks
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Re: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file

[Rick Quatro]

Forms Assistant with TimeSavers is a fantastic way to make forms in
FrameMaker. Here is a link to a form that I created with a FrameMaker table
and TimeSavers/Forms Assistant. I used a script to help populate the table
cells with the TimeSavers markers. The form is for a weight-loss contest
that I friend of mine had.

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/LosersAreWinners_Men.pdf


Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:00 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] PDFs in a FM book file

If by a dynamic form you're talking about a PDF form that can be filled in
and saved, then yes, it can. There's a plugin for forms call Forms
Assistant. Fillable fields, drop-down selection, radio buttons, check marks,
the works. I took one of his courses years ago, and the order form was a PDF
he made using Frame and TimeSavers. It was very slick.


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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

OK, this makes more sense. If you have a 4K screen, then you will definitely
see a difference between 2015 and 2017. But the way I read Dave's original
post, this isn't the issue he is referring to. He considers the text in the
2015 Marker pod to be too small and it's not because he is using a 4K
monitor. On other non-high resolution monitors, he will see no size
difference between 2015 and 2017.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Houser
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 11:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Here's a comparison of Marker dialogs in FM2015 and FM2017 at default size
on a 4k monitor. My results are similar to Stefan's. Pixel real-estate of
this and similar dialogs is increased by 4x in FM2017.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17580102/IndexMarker_FM2015-FM2017.png

-Alan


On 3/20/17 11:29 AM, Scott Prentice wrote:
> I think that the big changes are only apparent for those with high-res 
> screens. Would be interesting to see a side-by-side from someone with 
> a 4k. Perhaps that's what Stefan's screenshots came from.
>
>
> On 3/20/17 8:02 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a 
>> little more "editing-friendly."
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers
>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>>
>> Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..
>>
>>   http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png
>>
>> Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as 
>> small as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.
>>
>> Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?
>>
>> ...scott
>>
>>
>> On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>>> Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left 
>>> and the
>>> 2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.
>>>
>>> http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png
>>>
>>> Rick Quatro
>>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>>> r...@frameexpert.com
>>> 585-366-4017
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Framers
>>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
>>> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
>>> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>>> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>>>
>>> Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.
>>>
>>> You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog 
>>> in FM
>>> 2015 and 2017 here:
>>>
>>> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>> Stefan Gentz
>>> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

That is interesting. The font used on the 2015 side actually looks a little
more "editing-friendly."

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 10:46 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Interesting. On my 15" screen, here's what I see ..

 http://leximation.com/outbox/fm13-14-marker-dialog.png

Since both pods/panels/dialogs are resizable, I've made them both as small
as possible. The FM2017 text is slightly taller but narrower.

Perhaps the text size or font changes with screen size or resolution?

...scott


On 3/20/17 6:57 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left 
> and the
> 2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.
>
> http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png
>
> Rick Quatro
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 585-366-4017
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
> Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.
>
> You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog 
> in FM
> 2015 and 2017 here:
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017
>
>   
> Regards,
> Stefan Gentz
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
> Connect with us:
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> User Forum
>   
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
> Just to give a side by side example:
>
>
>
> [cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan Gentz
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
> Connect with us:
>
>   Facebook |  Twitter |  LinkedIn |  YouTube |  Our Blog |  Adobe TCS 
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>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stefan Gentz
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
> Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 
> 2017. It is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.
>
> The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have 
> editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan Gentz
>
> Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
> On Behalf Of Rick Quatro
>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02
>
> To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
> <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the 
> marker window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you 
> will be very disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and 
> expect a larger font in the marker window.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stamm, David
>
> Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM
>
> To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)
>
>
>
> 2017-03-20-01T12:35Z
>
>
>
> Stefan -
>
>
>
> Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if 
> so,
>
> when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you 
> reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Stamm
>
> Information Engineer
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: Framers
>
> [mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Stefan Gent

Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

Here is how it looks on my 22" monitor. The 2015 pod is on the left and the
2017 pod is on the right. The 2017 pod is bigger but the text is not.

http://www.rickquatro.com/resources/2015_2017.png

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017




-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 9:42 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Seems, the formatting and screenshot got lost.

You can see the side by side comparison of the (index) marker dialog in FM
2015 and 2017 here:

http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/marker-dialog-fm2015-vs-2017

 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
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-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:37
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Just to give a side by side example:



[cid:image001.png@01D2A187.7C2EE270]





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist



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From: Stefan Gentz
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:33
To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



No, what I said is, that we have changed the index marker pod in FM 2017. It
is NOT the same as the one in FM 2015.

The font size is the same now as in all other dialogs where you have
editable text. It's not the same small size as in FM 2015 anymore.





Regards,

Stefan Gentz

Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist





-Original Message-

From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+gentz=adobe@lists.frameusers.com]
On Behalf Of Rick Quatro

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 14:02

To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'
<framers@lists.frameusers.com>

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in
the marker window.



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stamm, David

Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM

To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.

Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



2017-03-20-01T12:35Z



Stefan -



Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,

when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you
reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.



Regards,

Dave Stamm

Information Engineer



-Original Message-

From: Framers

[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz

Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)



Hi



In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.



David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ado
be.com%2F%23%2Fview%2FFRMAKER-2451=02%7C01%7C%7C0acefd5e491145419edf08d
46f916218%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C636256117585634345
ata=TOtaFEaHwlADwUVwiS4NBDH2n%2BTQhzTnQLb5z9kLP9s%3D=0



The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:



[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]





In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.



@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.





Regards,

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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

Wait, don't misunderstand what Stefan is saying. The font size of the marker
window is the same in 2017 as it is in earlier versions. So you will be very
disappointed (and upset) if you upgrade to 2017 and expect a larger font in
the marker window.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stamm, David
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 8:36 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

2017-03-20-01T12:35Z

Stefan -

Thanks for this update.  Unfortunately, I have no idea whether (and if so,
when) I will get FrameMaker 2017 Release.  I guess that the change you
reported is something I'll just have to look forward to.

Regards,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+david.stamm=gd-ms@lists.frameusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: 2017-03-19-Sunday 09:39
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.

David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2451

The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:

[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]


In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.

@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.


Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

IXgen is a very useful plugin for marker-intensive documents. I used it
years ago and recommended it to several of my clients. My only complaint is
that it takes the liberty of balancing square brackets when it puts the text
back into the markers. This was a fatal problem for one of my clients that
was trying to use IXgen with TimeSavers markers which sometimes use
unbalanced open square brackets in its marker syntax (essentially,
Postscript code). In my view, IXgen shouldn't make any changes to the marker
text that you don't explicitly specify. But this is certainly an edge case,
so if you are not using TimeSavers markers, this won't be a concern for you.

Rick Quatro
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Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 12:14 AM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

On Sun, 19 Mar 2017, Rick Quatro wrote:

> The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is 
> too small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and 
> possibly the font in windows like these where the user has to 
> type/edit text. On marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose 
> a larger, mono-spaced font for the marker window.

snips

> Hi
>
> In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker 
> text window.

Another idea would be to use IXgen and bypass the limits (and sometimes
miseries) of the marker window entirely.

Most marker display and edit entities generated by IXgen rely on FrameMaker
documents that we provide as templates. And, because the IXgen templates are
plain old FM documents, you can modify those templates to use whatever font
size and styles you'd like.

For more information about IXgen please visit our site (in the sig block
below).

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Re: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

[Rick Quatro]

The problem here is simply that the text size in the marker window is too
small. It would be nice to be able to configure the size and possibly the
font in windows like these where the user has to type/edit text. On
marker-intensive documents, I would probably choose a larger, mono-spaced
font for the marker window.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stefan Gentz
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 9:39 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Font Size in Index Marker Pod (FRMAKER-2451)

Hi

In the last days there was some discussion about them index marker text
window.

David Stamm had file this in as an enhancement request:
https://tracker.adobe.com/#/view/FRMAKER-2451

The marker window has changed in FM 2017 and is no in the same look and feel
like other pods. Also the font size is the same as in the text field of all
other dialogs:

[cid:image025.jpg@01D2A0BE.831E09E0]


In FrameMaker 2015 there was a different marker pod based on a different
technology.

@all: Please give me feedback, on what is different in the index marker
window for you that does make it more difficult to work with text in index
markers compared with other markers or text in other dialogs / pods.


Regards,
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Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
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Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

[Rick Quatro]

No need to convert the table to text. Just make sure that each glossary term
is tagged with a unique paragraph format. Yes, it is like any other
generated list; you can have it put the page numbers in it.

Rick

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

Right now it's a table, but I can easy convert table to text.
And it will give all the page numbers for where that term is found?

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Subject: Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

Are each keyword in a separate FrameMaker paragraph? If so, you can do an
alphabetical paragraph list.

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FM11.
Hi, guys...I have a keyword list (Glossary). Can I use that as the source
for a book index?


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Re: [Framers] Keyword list as the Index source

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Are each keyword in a separate FrameMaker paragraph? If so, you can do an
alphabetical paragraph list.

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Re: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?

[Rick Quatro]

OK, got it. Thanks.

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Hi Rick...

Not FDK .. but the MS function SQLExecDirect() (and friends). It works quite
well.

...scott



On 2/27/17 5:12 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> Are there built-in FDK functions for accessing ODBC? Thanks.
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:30 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?
>
> Hmm. You can connect to ODBC through the FDK .. could probably expose 
> that to an ExtendScript call. Of course, if you're going to do part of 
> it in FDK, you might as well do all of it there.
>
> I wonder if it's possible to make Ajax calls from ExtendScript ..
> probably not. But if that was possible, you could use that to pull 
> your data from the "cloud" (if your data was there).
>
> Probably not terribly useful thoughts ..
>
> ...scott
>
>
> On 2/27/17 1:19 PM, Alan Houser wrote:
>> Thanks, Rick. Appreciated. Most of my automated publishing projects 
>> are XML-based. But on occasion (like this one) the client wants to go 
>> directly from an ODBC connection.
>>
>> Alas, there are still good reasons to use FrameScript!
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>>
>> On 2/27/17 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>>> Hi Alan,
>>>
>>> The short answer is no, ExtendScript doesn't have any built-in ODBC 
>>> capabilities. The closest you can get is to see if your database 
>>> content can be exported to XML and then use ExtendScript to parse 
>>> and import the XML to FrameMaker. ExtendScript has a built-in XML 
>>> object that is pretty good. It has an xpath method that lets you 
>>> perform XPath 1.0 queries on the XML object.
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> Rick Quatro
>>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>>> r...@frameexpert.com
>>> 585-366-4017
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Framers
>>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Alan Houser
>>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:18 PM
>>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>>> Subject: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?
>>>
>>> Colleagues,
>>>
>>> I'm a bit spoiled by the FrameScript database utilities, and am 
>>> trying to do similar database publishing with Extendscript. For 
>>> those on the list who have worked with both, does Extendscript 
>>> provide any database I/O capabilities? (I believe the answer is 
>>> "no"). If it does not, is there a Javascript library that you've found
to be workable?
>>>
>>> -Alan
>>>
>>> --
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Re: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Scott,

Are there built-in FDK functions for accessing ODBC? Thanks.

Rick

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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 4:30 PM
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Subject: Re: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?

Hmm. You can connect to ODBC through the FDK .. could probably expose that
to an ExtendScript call. Of course, if you're going to do part of it in FDK,
you might as well do all of it there.

I wonder if it's possible to make Ajax calls from ExtendScript .. 
probably not. But if that was possible, you could use that to pull your data
from the "cloud" (if your data was there).

Probably not terribly useful thoughts ..

...scott


On 2/27/17 1:19 PM, Alan Houser wrote:
> Thanks, Rick. Appreciated. Most of my automated publishing projects 
> are XML-based. But on occasion (like this one) the client wants to go 
> directly from an ODBC connection.
>
> Alas, there are still good reasons to use FrameScript!
>
> -Alan
>
>
> On 2/27/17 3:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> Hi Alan,
>>
>> The short answer is no, ExtendScript doesn't have any built-in ODBC 
>> capabilities. The closest you can get is to see if your database 
>> content can be exported to XML and then use ExtendScript to parse and 
>> import the XML to FrameMaker. ExtendScript has a built-in XML object 
>> that is pretty good. It has an xpath method that lets you perform 
>> XPath 1.0 queries on the XML object.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>> r...@frameexpert.com
>> 585-366-4017
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Framers
>> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alan Houser
>> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:18 PM
>> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
>> Subject: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?
>>
>> Colleagues,
>>
>> I'm a bit spoiled by the FrameScript database utilities, and am 
>> trying to do similar database publishing with Extendscript. For those 
>> on the list who have worked with both, does Extendscript provide any 
>> database I/O capabilities? (I believe the answer is "no"). If it does 
>> not, is there a Javascript library that you've found to be workable?
>>
>> -Alan
>>
>> --
>> Alan Houser
>> Group Wellesley, Inc.
>> Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing arh on Twitter
>> 412-450-0532
>>
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Re: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Alan,

The short answer is no, ExtendScript doesn't have any built-in ODBC
capabilities. The closest you can get is to see if your database content can
be exported to XML and then use ExtendScript to parse and import the XML to
FrameMaker. ExtendScript has a built-in XML object that is pretty good. It
has an xpath method that lets you perform XPath 1.0 queries on the XML
object.

Rick

Rick Quatro
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585-366-4017



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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 3:18 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] database access from Extendscript?

Colleagues,

I'm a bit spoiled by the FrameScript database utilities, and am trying to do
similar database publishing with Extendscript. For those on the list who
have worked with both, does Extendscript provide any database I/O
capabilities? (I believe the answer is "no"). If it does not, is there a
Javascript library that you've found to be workable?

-Alan

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Re: [Framers] Adding alternative text to images

[Rick Quatro]

Select the anchored frame (Control+Click), choose Special > Anchored Frame,
and click the Object Attributes button.

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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:38 PM
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Subject: [Framers] Adding alternative text to images

How do you add alternative text to images in FrameMaker 2015?

I see in the Frame Help that it is supported, but I did not see how, nor is
there a field for entering the text on the Object Properties panel.

I'm trying to include a brief description of the image, typically a screen
shot, to files that will be published as PDF files.

Thanks.

Principal Technical Writer, Robotic Automation and Workforce Intelligence |
Pegasystems Inc.

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Re: [Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

Yes, I can confirm that Lynne is still alive and well.

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Is Lynne Price still around? That website doesn't appear to have been
updated in a while.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:02 PM, Craig Ede <craig...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> This tgroup thing has driven me batty in the past. Nice to hear the 
> cause spelled out. And, yes, Adobe definitely needs to document this.
>
>
> Craig
>
> 
> From: Framers 
> <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com>
> on behalf of Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com>
> Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 5:37 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as 
> xml
>
> I agree that FrameMaker should not make these assumptions. At the very 
> least, the "special" nature of the tgroup element name should be 
> documented.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Alan Houser
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:35 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as 
> xml
>
> For the record, I've been bitten by this several times over the years.
> It's annoying that FrameMaker makes assumptions about the XML document 
> content model based on element names. Although it's only true in a 
> small number of cases; still, an element name should be just a string. 
> Element typing and behaviors should be left to the EDD and read/write
rules.
>
> In any event, Rick, I'm glad you arrived at a solution!
>
> -Alan
>
>
> On 2/15/17 10:10 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> > Thanks to Alan Houser for pointing out these posts by Lynne Price:
> >
> >
> http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.
> com/2006-December/005568.
> > html
> >
> > https://forums.adobe.com/thread/632726
> >
> > I tried renaming tgroup to t-group and it solved the problem; I now 
> > get my table title in the XML.
> >
> > Thanks to Alan and Lynne!
> >
> > Rick
> 
>
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Re: [Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

I agree that FrameMaker should not make these assumptions. At the very
least, the "special" nature of the tgroup element name should be documented.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Houser
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 10:35 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

For the record, I've been bitten by this several times over the years. 
It's annoying that FrameMaker makes assumptions about the XML document
content model based on element names. Although it's only true in a small
number of cases; still, an element name should be just a string. Element
typing and behaviors should be left to the EDD and read/write rules.

In any event, Rick, I'm glad you arrived at a solution!

-Alan


On 2/15/17 10:10 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Thanks to Alan Houser for pointing out these posts by Lynne Price:
>
>
http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/2006-December/005568.
> html
>
> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/632726
>
> I tried renaming tgroup to t-group and it solved the problem; I now 
> get my table title in the XML.
>
> Thanks to Alan and Lynne!
>
> Rick


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[Framers] SOLVED: RE: Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

Thanks to Alan Houser for pointing out these posts by Lynne Price:

http://lists.ceph.com/pipermail/framers-frameusers.com/2006-December/005568.
html

https://forums.adobe.com/thread/632726

I tried renaming tgroup to t-group and it solved the problem; I now get my
table title in the XML.

Thanks to Alan and Lynne!

Rick

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From: Framers
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Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:51 PM
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software.'
Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

Hi Tino,

It doesn't seem to matter what I name the element or whether or not I use RW
rules. I don't get the Table Title element or content in the XML.

Rick

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Of Tino H. Haida
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

Hi Rick, 

maybe FM sees "caption" as a reserved element name.
What happens if you try with a slightly different name? 

Why don't you use simply "Title" for the table title (which FM interprets as
table title directly without r/w rule).

Rick Quatro:

> I mocked up a simple structured application to try to isolate the 
> problem. I am not using any transform with this one. Whether I use my 
> application or not, whatever element I specify as the Table Title 
> element gets dropped on export to XML.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:47 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml
> 
> Hmm .. strange. Just a stretch, but is the default for the table's 
> format set to "No Title"?
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 2/15/17 1:32 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Also, when I save to XML with 
> no application, the table title (
> element) still gets dropped from the xml.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml
> 
> Rick...
> 
> Is your  in a location that makes it a valid "table title" 
> from the FM perspective? That is .. it's actually in the FM table 
> object structure, not like a DITA table where the  is outside 
> the table object's structure?
> 
> I've seen this cause strangeness when you call it a "table title" but 
> it's not in the right location.
> 
> Cheers,
> ...scott
> 
> On 2/15/17 12:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi All,
> 
> I have a structured application where my table titles are  
> elements. I have  set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template 
> and I have this RW rule:
> 
> element "caption" is fm table title element;
> 
> When I save as XML using my structured application, the  
> element gets dropped and doesn't appear in the XML. I am using 
> FrameMaker 2015. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
> 
> Rick
> 
> Rick Quatro
> 
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 
> 585-366-4017
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Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tino,

It doesn't seem to matter what I name the element or whether or not I use RW
rules. I don't get the Table Title element or content in the XML.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers
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Of Tino H. Haida
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:42 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

Hi Rick, 

maybe FM sees "caption" as a reserved element name.
What happens if you try with a slightly different name? 

Why don't you use simply "Title" for the table title (which FM interprets as
table title directly without r/w rule).

Rick Quatro:

> I mocked up a simple structured application to try to isolate the 
> problem. I am not using any transform with this one. Whether I use my 
> application or not, whatever element I specify as the Table Title 
> element gets dropped on export to XML.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:47 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml
> 
> Hmm .. strange. Just a stretch, but is the default for the table's 
> format set to "No Title"?
> 
> ...scott
> 
> On 2/15/17 1:32 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Also, when I save to XML with 
> no application, the table title (
> element) still gets dropped from the xml.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml
> 
> Rick...
> 
> Is your  in a location that makes it a valid "table title" 
> from the FM perspective? That is .. it's actually in the FM table 
> object structure, not like a DITA table where the  is outside 
> the table object's structure?
> 
> I've seen this cause strangeness when you call it a "table title" but 
> it's not in the right location.
> 
> Cheers,
> ...scott
> 
> On 2/15/17 12:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote: Hi All,
> 
> I have a structured application where my table titles are  
> elements. I have  set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template 
> and I have this RW rule:
> 
> element "caption" is fm table title element;
> 
> When I save as XML using my structured application, the  
> element gets dropped and doesn't appear in the XML. I am using 
> FrameMaker 2015. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
> 
> Rick
> 
> Rick Quatro
> 
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
> 
> r...@frameexpert.com
> 
> 585-366-4017
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Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

I mocked up a simple structured application to try to isolate the problem. I
am not using any transform with this one. Whether I use my application or
not, whatever element I specify as the Table Title element gets dropped on
export to XML.

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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:47 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

Hmm .. strange. Just a stretch, but is the default for the table's format
set to "No Title"?

...scott


On 2/15/17 1:32 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Also, when I save to XML with no application, the table title 
> (
> element) still gets dropped from the xml.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Scott Prentice
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:02 PM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml
>
> Rick...
>
> Is your  in a location that makes it a valid "table title" 
> from the FM perspective? That is .. it's actually in the FM table 
> object structure, not like a DITA table where the  is outside 
> the table object's structure?
>
> I've seen this cause strangeness when you call it a "table title" but 
> it's not in the right location.
>
> Cheers,
> ...scott
>
>
> On 2/15/17 12:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a structured application where my table titles are  
>> elements. I have  set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template 
>> and I have this RW rule:
>>
>>
>>
>> element "caption" is fm table title element;
>>
>>
>>
>> When I save as XML using my structured application, the  
>> element gets dropped and doesn't appear in the XML. I am using 
>> FrameMaker 2015. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>>
>> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>>
>> r...@frameexpert.com
>>
>> 585-366-4017
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

Also, when I save to XML with no application, the table title (
element) still gets dropped from the xml.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Prentice
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

Rick...

Is your  in a location that makes it a valid "table title" from the
FM perspective? That is .. it's actually in the FM table object structure,
not like a DITA table where the  is outside the table object's
structure?

I've seen this cause strangeness when you call it a "table title" but it's
not in the right location.

Cheers,
...scott


On 2/15/17 12:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>   
>
> I have a structured application where my table titles are  
> elements. I have  set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template 
> and I have this RW rule:
>
>   
>
> element "caption" is fm table title element;
>
>   
>
> When I save as XML using my structured application, the  
> element gets dropped and doesn't appear in the XML. I am using 
> FrameMaker 2015. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
>
>   
>
> Rick
>
>   
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> 585-366-4017
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
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Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Scott,

Yes, it is in the right place; it is a "real" table title. For some reason,
it is getting dropped on the way to XML. I am using a post transform, but if
I run the transform by hand in Oxygen, the  survives. Thanks.

Rick

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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:02 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

Rick...

Is your  in a location that makes it a valid "table title" from the
FM perspective? That is .. it's actually in the FM table object structure,
not like a DITA table where the  is outside the table object's
structure?

I've seen this cause strangeness when you call it a "table title" but it's
not in the right location.

Cheers,
...scott


On 2/15/17 12:45 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>   
>
> I have a structured application where my table titles are  
> elements. I have  set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template 
> and I have this RW rule:
>
>   
>
> element "caption" is fm table title element;
>
>   
>
> When I save as XML using my structured application, the  
> element gets dropped and doesn't appear in the XML. I am using 
> FrameMaker 2015. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.
>
>   
>
> Rick
>
>   
>
> Rick Quatro
>
> Carmen Publishing Inc.
>
> r...@frameexpert.com
>
> 585-366-4017
>
>   
>
>   
>
>   
>
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[Framers] Table Title gets dropped on save as xml

[Rick Quatro]

Hi All,

 

I have a structured application where my table titles are 
elements. I have  set up as a Table Title in my EDD/template and I
have this RW rule:

 

element "caption" is fm table title element;

 

When I save as XML using my structured application, the  element
gets dropped and doesn't appear in the XML. I am using FrameMaker 2015. Any
help would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

 

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[Framers] FrameMaker CMYK workaround

[Rick Quatro]

The crashing problem I am having seems to be caused by trying to create CMYK
PDFs. One question: if I create a PDF with RGB, is there a way to convert it
to CMYK in the resulting PDF? Thanks in advance.

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

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[Framers] What do you say when FrameMaker disappoints?

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

I received this from a client earlier this week:

 

Rick,

 

We've been adding a lot of material to the ... Service Manual and today when
... attempted to run a PDF it crashed the same way the ... Service Manual is
crashing.

 

This is a huge problem for us. Our whole workflow is predicated upon
FrameMaker working correctly with these large files. Have you had any luck
finding out why the ... Service Manual is crashing?

 

Regards,

...

 

As you can image, this is very frustrating for me as a FrameMaker
consultant, especially since I recommended that they use structured
FrameMaker for their manuals. It is frustrating for my client because they
have been asked to quote on another large set of manuals, but now they are
afraid to move ahead with FrameMaker. I have tried to run the books with
FrameMaker 2017, but this crashes also. I have reached out to some of my
contacts at Adobe, but have heard nothing.

 

We need structured FrameMaker because custom HTML5 output is a requirement.
But to not be able to create PDFs from FrameMaker? This is very
disappointing.

 

My suggestion for the next version of FrameMaker: go 64-bit and rewrite the
print engine to make PDF generation faster and stable.

 

In the meantime, I will start looking at alternative solutions.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

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r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

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Re: [Framers] links in insets work in FM 12

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Linda,

No to variables in index markers. You can conditionalize markers, but not
the text within markers.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017



Does anyone know if FM 2017 lets you use variables in index markers? What
about easily setting conditions on markers?

Thanks much

~
Linda G. Gallagher



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Re: [Framers] Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11 - HTML tag conversion Using xsl

[Rick Quatro]

I apologize for sending this to the list. It was supposed to be a private
reply.

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:37 AM
To: 'George, Brenda'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11 - HTML tag conversion
Using xsl

Hi Brenda,

Attached is the configuration file for my CleanFiles.exe utility. You can
see how to set up multiple find/change sets in the cfg file, which is a
well-formed xml file. The cost for the utility is $80 and it allows you to
drag-and-drop multiple files and/or folders of files to process. It can also
be called from a command line. Please let me know if you have any questions
or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick

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Subject: [Framers] Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11 - HTML tag conversion
Using xsl

I posted the following issue to the W3 Schools Forum last week, but have not
received a response to date:

I work with xml files that are imported into Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11
using an importing application that was created internally.

I am working with an xml documents that have html tags embedded in them. The
character entities that are embedded in the html need to be converted to
tags:

For example, the following character entities are part of the html:







I need to perform these conversions
Convert '' to ''

Convert '' to ''

Convert '' to ''

I have successfully converted these 3 character entities in the DTD by
adding entity declarations. For example:


I will be receiving these xml documents frequently, and the html text
changes, so there will probably be additional character entities (beyond the
3 above) that require conversion.

Is there another way to perform these character entity conversions without
having to add an entity declaration in the DTD for each one?

Thank-you for any assistance that you can provide.

Brenda George
Desk: (724) 720-8491
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Re: [Framers] Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11 - HTML tag conversion Using xsl

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Brenda,

Attached is the configuration file for my CleanFiles.exe utility. You can
see how to set up multiple find/change sets in the cfg file, which is a
well-formed xml file. The cost for the utility is $80 and it allows you to
drag-and-drop multiple files and/or folders of files to process. It can also
be called from a command line. Please let me know if you have any questions
or comments. Thank you very much.

Rick

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-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of George, Brenda
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2017 9:11 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11 - HTML tag conversion
Using xsl

I posted the following issue to the W3 Schools Forum last week, but have not
received a response to date:

I work with xml files that are imported into Structured Adobbe FrameMaker 11
using an importing application that was created internally.

I am working with an xml documents that have html tags embedded in them. The
character entities that are embedded in the html need to be converted to
tags:

For example, the following character entities are part of the html:







I need to perform these conversions
Convert '' to ''

Convert '' to ''

Convert '' to ''

I have successfully converted these 3 character entities in the DTD by
adding entity declarations. For example:


I will be receiving these xml documents frequently, and the html text
changes, so there will probably be additional character entities (beyond the
3 above) that require conversion.

Is there another way to perform these character entity conversions without
having to add an entity declaration in the DTD for each one?

Thank-you for any assistance that you can provide.

Brenda George
Desk: (724) 720-8491
bgeo...@federatedinv.com<mailto:bgeo...@federatedinv.com>



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Re: [Framers] Shortcuts to view previous and to check hypertext markers

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Dave,

I am pretty sure that these shortcuts still work, but only for links within
the same document.

Rick

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From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Stamm, David
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2017 11:29 AM
To: FrameMaker user's list posting
Subject: [Framers] Shortcuts to view previous and to check hypertext markers

2017-01-20-05T16:30Z

Windows 7 Enterprise operating system with Service Pack 1, 64-bit
32 GB RAM
FrameMaker 2015 13.0.5.547 installed on workstation Files are "children" in
a .book on a server in our local area network

¿Do these shortcuts work for you, or am I missing something?

I recently found an old note about built-in shortcuts in FrameMaker.  I
believe I extracted the content of the note from an old posting by Shlomo
Perets.  In the archives, I can't find that posting.  I want to use these,
but they haven't worked for some time.

The built-in command to go back is Esc v P (for "view previous"; three,
separate, case-sensitive, keystrokes (Esc v Shift+P)

When checking hypertext markers, the built-in command ins Esc v h (Esc v h).

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
Information Engineer


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Re: [Framers] How to get xml to use structured application

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Wim,

 

That worked. Thank you very much for the help. Thanks to all others who 
answered as well.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

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r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

 

From: Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp [mailto:w...@idtp.eu] 
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 11:46 AM
To: Rick Quatro
Cc: Framers
Subject: Re: [Framers] How to get xml to use structured application

 

Hi Rick,

 

in your structured application, add the Entities element and declare the Public 
ID and the (local) path to the DTD.

 

(if you’re using the structured application designer, go to advanced settings 
and then it’s on the bottom of the screen)

 

 

RE: However, the xml file has to be in the same folder as ixxus.dtd. Is there a

way to avoid this requirement? Thank you very much.

 



Vriendelijke groet / Kind regards,
 
Wim Hooghwinkel

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Re: [Framers] How to get xml to use structured application

[Rick Quatro]

I pretty much have this figured out I think, but I am still stuck on one
item. I am using this in my xml file:



And my structured app specifies one of the DOCTYPEs as toc-stn. When I open
the xml file, it is now using the correct structured application.

However, the xml file has to be in the same folder as ixxus.dtd. Is there a
way to avoid this requirement? Thank you very much.

Rick

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Of Rick Quatro
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 8:38 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] How to get xml to use structured application

Hi Framers,

 

I am creating an XML file for FrameMaker via XSLT. What do I need to put in
the XML file in order to get FrameMaker to use a particular structured
application when it opens the file? Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

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r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] PDF-Mark problems in Framemaker 2015

[Rick Quatro]

Hi André,

The solution to the problem is to turn off hyphenation in the Postscript text 
frames. Apparently, hyphenation is not ignored in FrameMaker versions higher 
than 12. You can see that the error log reports "pdf-mark" as the offending 
command (notice the automatic hyphen). I am reporting this as a bug to Adobe. 
Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Rick

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> -Original Message-
> From: Framers 
> [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of André Bönat
> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 3:31 AM
> To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: [Framers] PDF-Mark problems in Framemaker 2015
>
> Hi, there,
> some years ago I created some PDF-Mark buttons with the postscript frames in 
> Framemaker, which enabled the navigation in a pdf document ("previous page", 
> "next page" or "jump to TOC"). Up to Framemaker 12 it was without any 
> problems possible to create a online pdf.
> But now in Framemaker 2015 this no longer works: the pdf distilling stops 
> with the following message:
>
> "%%[ ProductName: Acrobat Distiller 10.1.16 ]%%
> %%[Page: 1]%%
> %%[ Error: undefined; OffendingCommand: pdfmark ]%%
>
> Stack:
> /ANN
> (/HeBo 10 Tf 1 g)
> /DA
> -dict-
> /MK
> -dict-
> /BS
> /Link
> /Subtype
> -dict-
> /Action
> 65540
> /Ff
> /Btn
> /FT
> /Widget
> /Subtype
> (zum Ausgangsort zur¸ck springen)
> /TU
> (zur¸ck springen)
> /T
> [71 14 0 0]
> /Rect
> -mark-
>
>
> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%% %%[ Warning: 
> PostScript error. No PDF file produced. ] %%"
>
> It seems that the Acrobat DC PlugIn no longer understands the PDF mark 
> commands. Has anybody a solution to this anoying surprise?
> I work with Framemaker 12 and 2015 in a Virtual Machine with Windows 7 
> Professional on a Mac, my client is on Windows 10 on a PC.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> André
>
> --
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>
> André Bönat
>
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[Framers] How to get xml to use structured application

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Framers,

 

I am creating an XML file for FrameMaker via XSLT. What do I need to put in
the XML file in order to get FrameMaker to use a particular structured
application when it opens the file? Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-366-4017

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Framers] White space in tables

[Rick Quatro]

Before I forget, I am using FrameMaker 2015. I checked and 
RemoveExtraWhiteSpaceOnXMLImport is On. Thanks for the suggestion.

Apparently, it is the way the original xml is "formatted". If I change this:


January 1, 2017
$10.50
$10.00(current rate)


To this (the whole ... one one line):

January 1, 2017$10.50$10.00(current rate)

I no longer get the extra white space. Note that with the former, I was only 
getting the extra white space inside the first  but not the other two.

I can get the desired result by using



in my stylesheet, but in my opinion, FrameMaker is being stupid with this 
behavior. There is no reason it should put the extra white space in the first 
column. Thanks.

Rick

From: Urszula Witherell [mailto:urszulawither...@jetsetcom.net] 
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2017 10:30 AM
To: Rick Quatro; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] White space in tables

You may want to check two places:
EDD Suffix rules that could add a space to  element
or
maker.ini line: RemoveExtraWhiteSpacesOnXMLImport=On
it may be Off

Best regards,
Urszula

On January 6, 2017 at 10:00 AM Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:
Hello and Happy New Year Framers,
I have xml with this basic structure for a table row:

January 1, 2017
$10.50
$10.00(current rate)

When I open this with FrameMaker, I get extra white space after the first
column's  text. The second and third columns display fine. As you can
see, there is no extra white space in my  or  elements. Any ideas on
where the extra white space comes from and how to prevent it? Thank you very
much.
Rick
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r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017
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[Framers] White space in tables

[Rick Quatro]

Hello and Happy New Year Framers,

I have xml with this basic structure for a table row:


January 1, 2017
$10.50
$10.00(current rate)


When I open this with FrameMaker, I get extra white space after the first
column's  text. The second and third columns display fine. As you can
see, there is no extra white space in my  or  elements. Any ideas on
where the extra white space comes from and how to prevent it? Thank you very
much.

Rick

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r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017
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[Framers] ExtendScript and WebDAV

[Rick Quatro]

Hello Framers and Adobe Lurkers,

 

I need to access a WebDAV server with ExtendScript. Does anyone have any
sample code that they can share? Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

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Re: [Framers] Using FM to edit MIF code

[Rick Quatro]

1. Open FrameMaker document. 

2. Save the document as MIF (File > Save As).

3. Close the FrameMaker document.

4. Choose File > Open and navigate to the .MIF file you saved in step 2.

5. Press and hold the shift key when you click the Open button. You should
see the Reading Text File dialog box.

6. Click Read to open the file as text.

After you do any edits in FrameMaker, make sure when you save the file you
save it as plain text. Then you can reopen the document and allow FrameMaker
to open it as a normal binary file.

Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.

Rick

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Of john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 2:04 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Using FM to edit MIF code

I saw someone post that FM can be used to edit the code of a MIF file.

Can someone point me?



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Re: [Framers] Replace URLs

[Rick Quatro]

Hi John,

You can use FrameMaker's built-in Find/Change feature to change the URLs in
the text. For URLs in markers, you will need to use scripting. Keep in mind
that FrameMaker versions 10 and higher include ExtendScript built in. If you
are interested in pursuing a scripting solution, please let me know. Thank
you very much.

Rick

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Of john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:54 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Replace URLs

Hi, guys. My company is reorganizing its SharePoint infrastructure with the
new year by moving  a whole bunch of SP project folders. My documentation
has thousands of URL to files and folders on multiple SP sites that are
going to be consolidated to one SP site, hence, breaking every one of my
links.

This means I need to change the root part of thousands of URLs from one
address to another. This has to be applicable against a whole book and not
file by file...I have over 1,000 FM 11 files

What are my options?

Thanks

John Posada


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Re: [Framers] OT: Webinar: I am looking for a solution

[Rick Quatro]

I need to hide the XML from my client, but I need it for further processing.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Lauriston
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2016 3:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Webinar: I am looking for a solution

I don't know what you mean by "structure" in this context. Applying
consistent styles?

On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Rick Quatro <r...@rickquatro.com> wrote:
> ...Currently, each contributor submits their content in a Word 
> document, which is then cleaned up, "structured" and imported into 
> InDesign for publication. I am looking for a system where the authors 
> can enter their content in a browser so that I can receive and process 
> structured content, bypassing Word and the need to manually structure 
> the content. ...
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