Re: [Framers] Printing Tag Properties

[Mike Wickham]

Just an additional comment on my earlier Format List from squidds.de 
post: I'm using an older version of FM, so haven't bought this utility 
for a while. But I seem to recall that, since I last purchased, they 
changed their license from a one-time purchase to requiring an upgrade 
with every FM upgrade. So you might want to check that out and consider 
it before any purchase.


Mike Wickham

On 12/13/2023 6:17 PM, acr...@shaw.ca wrote:

Is there a way to print Character, Paragraph and Table tag properties
directly from a Frame file?

As a lone writer, I never have time to create a decent style guide, but in
the Spring I'm going to have access to a student from a local tech comm
program and I want them to at least start documenting tags for a style
guide.

If there's a way to export these details, even if the output isn't pretty,
that would be great.

  


Alison

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Re: [Framers] Printing Tag Properties

[Mike Wickham]

There is a utility that I like a lot for this. Squidds.de makes a 
Finalyser plugin that contains a whole bunch of utilities.. One is 
Format List. It prints out what you want and, unlike the Silicon Prairie 
Software plugin, puts all the paragraph properties into a single table.  
This makes it much easier to scan down a column to find a style with an 
errant font, for example.


The problem is that the squidds.de site is a bear to operate for 
ordering. First, it's in German, so you have to turn on the English 
version, which isn't perfect. Then you have to find the Finalyser 
product. Then you have to find the price list for it, which is the only 
place that displays options to buy individual utilities (on the second 
page). $299 Euros for Format List. Not cheap, considering that it used 
to $99.


Mike Wickham

On 12/13/2023 6:17 PM, acr...@shaw.ca wrote:

Is there a way to print Character, Paragraph and Table tag properties
directly from a Frame file?

As a lone writer, I never have time to create a decent style guide, but in
the Spring I'm going to have access to a student from a local tech comm
program and I want them to at least start documenting tags for a style
guide.

If there's a way to export these details, even if the output isn't pretty,
that would be great.

  


Alison

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Re: [Framers] Document reflows when saving to PDF

[Mike Wickham]

I hardly use FrameMaker these days, but as I recall, Times can hide on 
reference pages and master pages, which require a separate search from 
body pages. Times may also hide in imported objects. Another place that 
unexpected fonts hide is in table titles. You insert a new table, but 
don't need a title on it, so you turn the title off. But it's still 
hiding there with an assigned font attached. (FM uses Times New Roman as 
default there.) Finally, I think I remember that, if you print 
registration marks, AdobePDF chooses Times as the font to print them. 
There's nothing you can do about it, but I wouldn't think that would 
cause reflow.


The most common cause of reflow , though, is not having AdobePDF set as 
the default printer. If it's not set, then FM uses the font character 
spacing of the driver for the printer that is set, but changes it when 
you create the PDF. I'm sure that's not news to you.


Regarding Calibri reflowing, is it possible that the document could be 
using a printer resident version of the font, then when you switch to 
AdobePDF to print, it might be picking up a different, installed version 
of the font instead? Again, that would assume that you don't have 
AdobePDF as default printer. Looking in printer properties, there is an 
entry for "TrueType Font" that lets you choose between "Download as 
Softfont" or "Substitute with Device Font." The first is preferable 
because it prevents substitutions with a font that might have an 
identical name, but different metrics.


BTW, I am assuming that by reflow, you mean words move from one line to 
another, changing lines and paragraph layout. But, if your issue is only 
a reflow of line length, there is also a maker.ini setting, 
"DisplayUsingPrinterMetrics=On" that affects the placement of words on 
the screen. It lets you choose between displaying characters optimally 
(using the optimal number of pixels), at the expense of line length. 
There are not enough pixels on screen to perfectly display characters 
and the spacing between them, so FM has to either fudge the spacing 
between them or fudge the line length.


When set to "On", the spacing between characters will not be accurate, 
and the characters themselves might look a little rougher, but the 
length of the line of characters will be accurate and everything will 
print its best and with the layout you expect. When set to "Off," FM 
optimizes the characters for clarity on screen at the expense of line 
length. So lines of typed characters, at times, might even extend beyond 
the margin, even though they won't print that way. If you are not 
justifying text, you might not even notice this because you expect a 
ragged right-hand margin. When you print, the printer has many more dpi 
and gets it all right—but line lengths will not be what you saw on 
screen. So "On" gives a closer preview of how the document will print. 
"Off" makes characters look best on screen, but doesn't care so much 
about how lines look.


I can't believe that I wrote all that.  I miss Framemaker!

Mike Wickham

On 8/24/2023 8:26 AM, r...@rickquatro.com wrote:

I am saving a FrameMaker document to PDF and I get this message at the
Console:

  The "Times" Font is not available.
"Times New Roman" will be used in this session.

  It is causing the document to reflow. The font is not Times or Times New
Roman but Calibri. Querying the properties in FrameMaker and Acrobat show
that they are both Calibri 9 point. I have seen this message in the past,
but the reflow is a big problem for this project. Is there a setting that
will give me an exact FrameMaker to PDF text match?

Rick

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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Mike Wickham]

Are you saying that FrameMaker 10 will not work with Windows 11?

Mike

On 1/12/2023 3:14 PM, Fei Min Lorente wrote:

...but with the move to Windows 11, we have to convert those, too.


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Re: [Framers] Have not seen any emails in this list since ...

[Mike Wickham]

I see your message. Not sure when I saw the last message, though.

Mike

On 1/11/2023 9:17 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote:

... November 1 of 2022.

Am I off the list somehow?

Z

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Re: [Framers] OT: Identifying a font

[Mike Wickham]

Upload an image at whatthefont.com for a quick answer.

Mike

On 3/6/2022 6:24 PM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

I have a PNG that displays a san serif font. Is there a way to identify
which specific san serif font that it is? Is anyone a font guru/guruess that
might be able to take a look at the PNG and provide their thoughts as to the
font?

  


TIA,

  


TVB

  

  


Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com <http://www.spectrumwritingllc.com>




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Re: [Framers] Old problem with scrolling in Frame

[Mike Wickham]

It wasn't exactly clear which scrolling bug you've encountered, but if 
it is the one where scrolling happens, but extremely slowly, this is the 
solution that worked for me, back in the day, from an Adobe tech 
representative:


===
1. For the problematic workspace, check from Window -> Panels (this 
shows the list of open panels, the checked ones are visible panels, 
others are open but might not be visible)

2. Click on the para designer.
3. Now, with these steps:
    i.   File -> Preferences -> Interface
    ii.  Uncheck "Hide panels on Close" (This option kills a panel 
on close,

       else a panel would stay open in the background)
    iii. Close Para Designer

===

Mike Wickham
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Re: [Framers] TOC issue

[Mike Wickham]

Have you tried a MIF wash?

Mike Wickham

On 12/17/2021 8:48 AM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

OK,

  


Me again, but I have done everything that I can think of doing to solve this
issue BEFORE I posted and I am at a loss.  I have a book for which I am
generating a TOC. I have selected the necessary paragraph tags for the TOC
and generated. All the entries in the TOC are functioning as hyperlinks as
they should with the exception of 5 specific entries. They are deader than a
door nail. The first TOC entry above this set of five entries is an active
hyperlink and the first TOC entry below this group of 5 is also an active
hyperlink.

  


I have done the following:

  


1.  Deleted this specific text in the book and re-entered it.
2.  Confirmed that there is no override to any of these tags - the text
is EquationCaption w/out any overrides (No asterisk is showing for them.)
3.  Turned on all conditional text settings and generated the book to
check and see if there was something buried in the hidden text that was
causing the issue, but even w/ all the conditions turned on, I still have
the issue.
4.  Added the same kind of tag (an Equation Caption) directly above and
directly below the section of five that are giving me fits and regenerated
and the tag above and below are indeed hyperlinks but these 5 remain
stubbornly dead.
5.  All the equations are PDFs in this book, so I assumed that maybe
there was a graphic issue, so I deleted the five relevant graphics and
regenerated and again, the links are still dead.

  


I am at a loss at this point. It is just this one small section in an
otherwise large and graphic-laden manual, so there's nothing common about
this issue that I can compare to other sections in this book as no other
sections are giving me this problem.

  


I would welcome any and all suggestions, insight, etc.

  


Regards,

  


TVB

  

  

  


Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

  


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Re: [Framers] Quality of vector graphics created in FrameMaker is bad in CMYK PDF output

[Mike Wickham]

It has been a long time, so I'm not positive that I'm remembering this 
correctly, but I recall that issue having something to do with either 
using EMF or WMF files-- that it was a limitation of the file type. I 
also seem to remember some issues related to CMYK where, if graphics 
were not EPS files, they would be channeled through Windows GDI and come 
out as RGB (and maybe processed into EMF or WMF along the way?) Anyway, 
the solution for me, at the time, was merely to always use EPS graphics 
in my documents, if I ever wanted correct CMYK output. Again, it has 
been a while since I worked with FM (FM 10). So forgive me if I'm not 
remembering this quite right. And I realize that FM support for CMYK may 
have changed since then.


Mike Wickham

On 8/19/2021 2:17 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:

Graphical elements containing curves or circles, created with the corresponding
FrameMaker tools, are not output to PDF as bezier curves. Instead there are very
rough and segmented lines only approximating the original curves or circles.


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Re: [Framers] can someone take the reins?

[Mike Wickham]

I'd like to add my thanks to Carol and Rick for maintaining the list, 
and for their contributions to the list over the years. I'm retired now, 
so don't use FrameMaker much anymore, but I still follow the list and 
hope it keeps operating. It has been a great resource!


Mike Wickham

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Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue

[Mike Wickham]

Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark 
is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I 
first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that 
the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as 
is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off.


Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote:

Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base)

Win 7 Pro

64 bit

  

  


I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away
from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come
back to me.

  


I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set
the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't
retain a specific setting.

  


Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes
for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't
enter an upper case letter in the text).

  


No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of
deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves.

  


Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong?

  


Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've
worked on so far.

  


FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm
hanging indent.

  


Alison

  

  


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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

Man, I am cursed in this thread. The third link the message below, 
should be http://mikewickham.com/misc/3.gif 
<http://mikewickham.com/misc/3.gif>. I left out the misc in the link. D'oh!


Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 1:11 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:
I set all four colors (CMYK) to process and overprint. Using Save as 
PDF (not print to Adobe PDF).


Below, you can see the PDF with all four plates turned on in Output 
Preview. It is easy to see that yellow is overprinting. It turns green 
on top of cyan, and  easy to see that black is, too-- although not so 
much in this GIF. The black is darker over the cyan, wit the "E" 
showing in two colors, as expected with overprinting. The cyan and 
magenta plates, though, are not correctly overprinting and have 
letters of unchanged color where they are supposed to overprint:


CMYK <http://mikewickham.com/misc/1.gif>

Below is the PDF with the black and yellow plates turned off. You can 
see that they were overprinted. The full cyan plate remains:


CM plates only <http://mikewickham.com/misc/2.gif>

Below is the image with the magenta plate turned off. You can see that 
it knocks out the cyan plate, even though all colors are set to 
overprint:


CYK only <http://mikewickham.com/3.gif>

And below is the cyan plate turned off. It knocks out the yellow 
plate, even though all colors are set to overprint:


MYK only <http://mikewickham.com/misc/4.gif>

So there is definitely some error in the process. Overprinting works 
with black and yellow plates, but not cyan and magenta. The Object 
Inspector in Acrobat works similarly to your Quite Revealing. It 
accurately shows what the PDF presents, i.e. overprint=true for black 
and yellow, but false for cyan and magenta. I confirmed this by 
printing to a Xerox Phaser CMYK printer to be sure it wasn't a display 
artifact.


I cannot figure out why overprints are only flowing to the PDF for two 
of the four plates! All four color definitions are set to Process 
Overprint in FrameMaker.


Mike Wickham


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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

I set all four colors (CMYK) to process and overprint. Using Save as PDF 
(not print to Adobe PDF).


Below, you can see the PDF with all four plates turned on in Output 
Preview. It is easy to see that yellow is overprinting. It turns green 
on top of cyan, and  easy to see that black is, too-- although not so 
much in this GIF. The black is darker over the cyan, wit the "E" showing 
in two colors, as expected with overprinting. The cyan and magenta 
plates, though, are not correctly overprinting and have letters of 
unchanged color where they are supposed to overprint:


CMYK <http://mikewickham.com/misc/1.gif>

Below is the PDF with the black and yellow plates turned off. You can 
see that they were overprinted. The full cyan plate remains:


CM plates only <http://mikewickham.com/misc/2.gif>

Below is the image with the magenta plate turned off. You can see that 
it knocks out the cyan plate, even though all colors are set to overprint:


CYK only <http://mikewickham.com/3.gif>

And below is the cyan plate turned off. It knocks out the yellow plate, 
even though all colors are set to overprint:


MYK only <http://mikewickham.com/misc/4.gif>

So there is definitely some error in the process. Overprinting works 
with black and yellow plates, but not cyan and magenta. The Object 
Inspector in Acrobat works similarly to your Quite Revealing. It 
accurately shows what the PDF presents, i.e. overprint=true for black 
and yellow, but false for cyan and magenta. I confirmed this by printing 
to a Xerox Phaser CMYK printer to be sure it wasn't a display artifact.


I cannot figure out why overprints are only flowing to the PDF for two 
of the four plates! All four color definitions are set to Process 
Overprint in FrameMaker.


Mike Wickham
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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

Dang, my graphics didn't come through and I just found that I need to 
link them. I will repost with links.


Mike Wickham

On 4/15/2021 11:58 AM, Mike Wickham wrote:
I set all four colors (CMYK) to process and overprint. Using Save as 
PDF (not print to Adobe PDF).


Below, you can see the PDF with all four plates turned on in Output 
Preview. It is easy to see that yellow is overprinting. It turns green 
on top of cyan, and  easy to see that black is, too-- although not so 
much in this GIF. The black is darker over the cyan, wit the "E" 
showing in two colors, as expected with overprinting. The cyan and 
magenta plates, though, are not correctly overprinting and have 
letters of unchanged color where they are supposed to overprint:


CMYK

Below is the PDF with the black and yellow plates turned off. You can 
see that they were overprinted. The full cyan plate remains:


CM plates only

Below is the image with the magenta plate turned off. You can see that 
it knocks out the cyan plate, even though all colors are set to 
overprint:


CYK only

And below is the cyan plate turned off. It knocks out the yellow 
plate, even though all colors are set to overprint:


MYK only

So there is definitely some error in the process. Overprinting works 
with black and yellow plates, but not cyan and magenta. The Object 
Inspector in Acrobat works similarly to your Quite Revealing. It 
accurately shows what the PDF presents, i.e. overprint=true for black 
and yellow, but false for cyan and magenta. I confirmed this by 
printing to a Xerox Phaser CMYK printer to be sure it wasn't a display 
artifact.


I cannot figure out why overprints are only flowing to the PDF for two 
of the four plates! All four color definitions are set to Process 
Overprint in FrameMaker.


Mike Wickham
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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

I set all four colors (CMYK) to process and overprint. Using Save as PDF 
(not print to Adobe PDF).


Below, you can see the PDF with all four plates turned on in Output 
Preview. It is easy to see that yellow is overprinting. It turns green 
on top of cyan, and  easy to see that black is, too-- although not so 
much in this GIF. The black is darker over the cyan, wit the "E" showing 
in two colors, as expected with overprinting. The cyan and magenta 
plates, though, are not correctly overprinting and have letters of 
unchanged color where they are supposed to overprint:


CMYK

Below is the PDF with the black and yellow plates turned off. You can 
see that they were overprinted. The full cyan plate remains:


CM plates only

Below is the image with the magenta plate turned off. You can see that 
it knocks out the cyan plate, even though all colors are set to overprint:


CYK only

And below is the cyan plate turned off. It knocks out the yellow plate, 
even though all colors are set to overprint:


MYK only

So there is definitely some error in the process. Overprinting works 
with black and yellow plates, but not cyan and magenta. The Object 
Inspector in Acrobat works similarly to your Quite Revealing. It 
accurately shows what the PDF presents, i.e. overprint=true for black 
and yellow, but false for cyan and magenta. I confirmed this by printing 
to a Xerox Phaser CMYK printer to be sure it wasn't a display artifact.


I cannot figure out why overprints are only flowing to the PDF for two 
of the four plates! All four color definitions are set to Process 
Overprint in FrameMaker.


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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

Ok, this has gotten way weirder, but I have managed a partial solution 
that lets me create this particular file the way I want. I suspect the 
book will bomb out, though. I've always had trouble getting Save as PDF 
to work with books. Here is what fixed it enough for now:


1. I used Save as PDF. Print to PDF does not seem capable of passing 
overprints to PDF. But, even using Save as PDF, Acrobat may say "Page 
has Overprint: Yes," but still knockout backgrounds.


2. Changing ink from 100% black to 99% black in my Overprint Black color 
definition, makes it overprint. Oddly, creating an Overprint Yellow at 
100% works fine. Magenta and Cyan do not overprint, even at 99% ink. 
Fortunately, I only need black to work in this book.


Anyway, I've been troubleshooting for two days. As long as black works, 
I'm probably okay. I'll be back if I can't get the whole book to Save as 
PDF.


And, a final note to Heiko, I'm curious how you created your PDF and if 
you actually turned off individual ink plates to see if overprints 
actually worked or if Acrobat was just lying to you, like it did to me! :)


Mike Wickham

On 4/14/2021 3:16 PM, Heiko Haida wrote:


Hi Mike,

I checked using a simple rectangle and some text.
I checked the behaviour with FM 8 and FM 2017 (no FM10 installed)

Changing the color definition to "overprint" worked, as the pdf has 
marked the black color as "overprint".


Here the info in the Acrobat "output preview" tool for the modified file:

In case the normal color definition is used, "Page has Overprint" will 
show a "No" in the resulting PDF.


I cannot say more about this.
Of course, for overprint or knock-out to become visible or effective, 
a separation is necessary.


Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin

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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

Well, hmmf. Mine says "Page has Overprint: No," and knocks out 
everything below it. I even tried using a drawn rectangle on the body 
page, as you did, instead of a background graphic. Same result. I also 
tried setting the color definition of regular black to overprint. Same 
result. So there must be a bug in my FM10 or Acrobat 2017. I wonder if I 
have a plugin that conflicts and causes the failure.


Mike

On 4/14/2021 3:16 PM, Heiko Haida wrote:


Hi Mike,

I checked using a simple rectangle and some text.
I checked the behaviour with FM 8 and FM 2017 (no FM10 installed)

Changing the color definition to "overprint" worked, as the pdf has 
marked the black color as "overprint".


Here the info in the Acrobat "output preview" tool for the modified file:

In case the normal color definition is used, "Page has Overprint" will 
show a "No" in the resulting PDF.


I cannot say more about this.
Of course, for overprint or knock-out to become visible or effective, 
a separation is necessary.


Best regards -- Tino H. Haida, Berlin

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Re: [Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

In the meantime, I believe I've found the sad answer to my question. 
Overprint settings only work when printing _separations_ to PDF. This is 
ridiculous! They should work on composite PDFs, too!


So, in the end, creating an Overprint Black color definition,and 
assigning it to appropriate paragraph formats on the body page and to 
the line rules on the master page is all that is necessary. It just does 
not work with composite PDFs. Does anyone send separations to their 
printer, rather than a composite PDF in this day and age?


Mike Wickham

Hi, all,

I'm having issues getting overprint settings to work. I have a document
that has a full-page, solid-color graphic imported and filling the
entire master page background. So the page is not white, but has a
color. I want to overprint black text on it, rather than have the text
knockout the background and risk registration issues at press time. But
I cannot get overprint to work. The text keeps knocking out the
background. Here is what I have done:

1. I created a color definition called Overprint Black, set to Process,
CMYK, 0% CMY and 100% black, and Overprint.

2. I assigned Overprint Black as the text color for all text formats on
the body page. I thought this would be enough, but it wasn't so, I did
the following in progressive steps.

3. On the master page, I set Object Properties of all text frames and
the background EPS graphic to Overprint. I found some Adobe help that
says that EPS files don't overprint, so I tried with a TIF background
graphic instead. Same result.

4. On the reference page, I set the Object Properties of the Single Line
background frame item (there are a couple of these on the page) to
Color: Overprint Black and Overprint: Overprint.

So I have text color, text frames, and even the graphic (though it is
behind everything) set to overprint. I expect text and single line rules
to overprint the colored background graphic. But they all knock out the
background graphic.

Using File>Print with printer set to Adobe PDF (with and without print
to file) I generate a complete PDF, using FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat
2017. The PDF is beautiful, but the Object Inspector in Acrobat shows
"Overprint=False" for everything. And if I look at separations, the
non-black plates are, indeed, knocked out.

I have been away from FrameMaker for a while, so am a little rusty. What
am I missing? Why is Overprint not working?

Mike Wickham
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[Framers] Overprint Not Working in FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat Pro 2017

[Mike Wickham]

Hi, all,

I'm having issues getting overprint settings to work. I have a document 
that has a full-page, solid-color graphic imported and filling the 
entire master page background. So the page is not white, but has a 
color. I want to overprint black text on it, rather than have the text 
knockout the background and risk registration issues at press time. But 
I cannot get overprint to work. The text keeps knocking out the 
background. Here is what I have done:


1. I created a color definition called Overprint Black, set to Process, 
CMYK, 0% CMY and 100% black, and Overprint.


2. I assigned Overprint Black as the text color for all text formats on 
the body page. I thought this would be enough, but it wasn't so, I did 
the following in progressive steps.


3. On the master page, I set Object Properties of all text frames and 
the background EPS graphic to Overprint. I found some Adobe help that 
says that EPS files don't overprint, so I tried with a TIF background 
graphic instead. Same result.


4. On the reference page, I set the Object Properties of the Single Line 
background frame item (there are a couple of these on the page) to 
Color: Overprint Black and Overprint: Overprint.


So I have text color, text frames, and even the graphic (though it is 
behind everything) set to overprint. I expect text and single line rules 
to overprint the colored background graphic. But they all knock out the 
background graphic.


Using File>Print with printer set to Adobe PDF (with and without print 
to file) I generate a complete PDF, using FrameMaker 10 and Acrobat 
2017. The PDF is beautiful, but the Object Inspector in Acrobat shows 
"Overprint=False" for everything. And if I look at separations, the 
non-black plates are, indeed, knocked out.


I have been away from FrameMaker for a while, so am a little rusty. What 
am I missing? Why is Overprint not working?


Mike Wickham
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Re: [Framers] Processing time

[Mike Wickham]

This sounds a little like a bug I encountered in FrameMaker 9. If I used 
the arrow keys to scroll, the cursor moved extremely slowly and would 
travel at only about one character per second. I'm not sure what the 
issue was, but it occurred when the Paragraph Designer was open and got 
worse if the Character Designer was also open. The "Hide panels on 
Close" setting was the key. Perhaps this old bug has worked its way back 
into new code. It wouldn't be the first time with FM.


Anyway, Amit Agarwal of Adobe sent me a fix that worked for my problem. 
Perhaps it will solve your problem, too:




1. For the problematic workspace, check from Window -> Panels (this shows the 
list of open panels, the checked ones are visible panels, others are open but 
might not be visible)
2. Click on the para designer.
3. Now, with these steps:
i.   File -> Preferences -> Interface
ii.  Uncheck "Hide panels on Close" (This option kills a panel on 
close,
   else a panel would stay open in the background)
iii. Close Para Designer



Mike Wickham

On 4/7/2021 11:49 AM, Harding, Dan wrote:

It's definitely pod-based. With 0 pods displayed, I can move quickly through 
text using the keyboard and the CPU 1 load won't rise above 5%. However, as I 
display more pods on the screen, the load ramps higher, with Character Designer 
and especially Paragraph Designer being the worst offenders. Having just 
Paragraph Designer displayed and quickly moving through text will spike to 90%+ 
CPU 1 utilization. With both paragraph and Character designer, it maxes at 100% 
utilization almost immediately. Any more than those 2 open and there starts 
being noticeable lag in cursor movement.

Since Frame apparently wasn't coded to utilize multiple CPU cores, modern CPUs 
with multiple cores/threads are of minimal benefit. What Frame wants is one 
ginormously powerful CPU core rather than distributed CPU power. Other Adobe 
apps like Photoshop were developed to utilize multiple CPU cores as well as the 
GPU horsepower... which is what Frame needs.

Ugh.



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Re: [Framers] version numbering and document control

[Mike Wickham]

It seems like the easy solution would be simply to replace month and 
year with year and an incremented number: 2021-1, 2021-2, 2021-3 ... 
2022-1, etc. If you're worried about confusion with the old system, 
maybe wait to the beginning of the next year to start the change.


Mike Wickham

On 2/12/2021 11:08 AM, Lise Bible wrote:

Hello, Framers,
Historically (I inherited this system) the manuals for my company have
listed the month and year as the revision. And that has worked ok, except
when more than one update needed to happen within a month. And my boss
wants me to switch to a numbered revision system.

But what has me stymied is, what number do I start with? It doesn't really
make sense to me to start at 1 because some of these manuals are now 10
years old and have had multiple revisions/updates.

Any advice?

(My boss also wants me to implement some kind of document control system, a
la what we do with engineering drawings in Autodesk Vault but that's a
secondary step and one I have not figured out yet. He has said he wants to
put manuals in Vault like the drawings are, and I'm still not sure how well
that would work. I could see maybe uploading pdfs, but I'm thinking doing
this with the frame files would get messy.)

Thanks,
Lise


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Re: [Framers] image background problem

[Mike Wickham]

Ken, I think what you probably need to do is to add a "clipping path." I 
haven't used PSDs in FrameMaker-- I've always saved graphics as EPS-- 
but transparency was never honored for me without a clipping path.


Mike Wickham

On 9/16/2020 5:29 PM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

A question about an image technique that I've never been able to master but it 
seems everybody else has -- dropping out a white background. I've been assigned 
with producing a company newsletter formerly done in Word. And though I do use 
Word when I have to, I'm 22 years into FrameMaker and -- other than this -- 
it's usually so damn easy to do these things in Frame.

The original newsletter (in Word) has a colorful banner with lettering across top of the 
first page. I can copy the main graphic element (a stylized color bar with a curved lower 
edge, similar to the Nike "swoosh") from the Word file and paste it onto the 
top of page 1 of the new Frame file, but I need to delete a white area from the lower 
portion of that graphic (easier shown than described; contact me off-list and we can do a 
share-screen Zoom thing so I can show you what I mean).

I used Adobe Photoshop CS4 to "apparently" successfully delete that white 
portion from that jpg file; the formerly white area of the original image is now the 
familiar grey checkerboard. I saved that modified image as a psd file.

But when I imported the new (psd) image to partly overlay another graphic 
element on the first page of the FrameMaker 10 version of the newsletter, the 
imported graphic still has that white area which overlays the other graphic 
element. Which is what I don't want.

What didn't I do or what am I doing wrong? Whatever was done in Word should 
more easily be done in Frame, or so I thought.

Help please?
-- Ken in Atlanta
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Re: [Framers] Adobe licensing is migrating to subscription based

[Mike Wickham]

If Adobe is going to deactivate CS servers, they need to provide a way 
to turn off the need to activate, so that the software can still run. 
I'm nearing time to replace my computer, but have been holding off, 
dreading the issue of dealing with CS deactivations and reactivations.


Mike Wickham

On 8/25/2020 12:35 PM, Lin Sims wrote:

Carol, I don't know. I don't work for Adobe.

My understanding is that the activation servers for CS1-3 simply wore out
and weren't maintainable anymore, the software required to perform
activations can't run on the new platforms, and it would have taken a great
deal of money and time for Adobe to try to port it. They weren't willing to
spend those resources for a product that hasn't been for sale for almost a
decade and for which even extended support was ended over a year ago.

There *was *a brief time period at the end of 2019 where Adobe provided a
special, you won't need an activation server, number for the CS1-3
products. I emphasize *brief*: that option is no longer available.

My assumption is that if and when they retire the activation servers for
CS4-6 the same will happen, but I have no way to know this for certain.
Since I have none of the CS products, I also don't know if Adobe sent out a
notification of this happening for CS1-3.

I'm sorry I can't be of more help. (Oh, and yes, if it has CS in the name
it is/was part of Creative Suites.)

And standard warning: if anyone tries to get in touch with you claiming to
be able to sell you Creative Suites, do not buy from them. They're
scammers, and at best you will lose your money.



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Re: [Framers] Fraction Symbols

[Mike Wickham]

If these are variables, why are they listed as available for FrameMaker 
15 and 16 only? What would keep them from working in FM10 or FM12?


Mike Wickham

On 8/25/2020 6:28 AM, Dennis Hays wrote:
I have set up a small set of variables for fractions, which can be 
imported into the Variables panel in your working document. These, and 
other 'packs' are free and available at framegoodies.us.


Also, Lin Sims, I would be interested in seeing your MIF file, if you 
can send it to me directly.


To all, be well!

Dennis



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Re: [Framers] Images make scrolling through a Frame document problematic

[Mike Wickham]

I also seem to recall a setting that affected whether a document loaded 
all graphics in a file up front, or as you scroll to them. The first 
method, loads the .fm file more slowly, but, once loaded, the graphics 
appeared quickly when scrolling. The alternate setting makes the .fm 
file load fast because it didn't load graphics unless they actually 
scroll onto the screen. Unfortunately, I can't remember what that 
setting was, nor could I find it. Maybe it will give a hint that allows 
someone else to chime in.


Mike

On 7/17/2020 2:06 PM, Doug wrote:

My Frame documents usually contain a lot of images, usually photos.

I like to work with the zoom set out far enough for me to see both side
margins.  When I scroll through the document, Frame momentarily freezes
when an image scrolls into view.  After a few of these pauses, if I keep
scrolling, the entire screen will black out and freeze for 2-5 seconds or
so.

Then the screen will display again and my image will be there as expected.

I assume all of this is a memory issue, with buffers filling up and having
to be empties, or somesuch.

My workstation has 16GB of memory, so I'd have thought I wouldn't see
memory problems.  I'm running Windows 10 Pro on a Dell OptiPlex 3050,
i5-7500 @ 3.4 GHz, 64 bit.

Is there some setting I can tweak to optimize performance?

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker and transparency

[Mike Wickham]

Ken, FrameMaker 10 is capable of honoring transparency in certain 
circumstances, but presents difficulties. It has been a long time since 
I've used a transparent graphic, so let me see if I can remember how I 
did it. One thing I seem to recall is that having a transparent 
background wasn't enough, or maybe wasn't even necessary. The key thing 
was to put a clipping path around the object you want to keep. Then FM 
would recognize it and  knock out the rest. HOWEVER, FM 10 doesn't 
always display that transparency. So-- again, I might be remembering 
this wrong-- but, if you put one graphic with clipping path over another 
graphic, only the graphic in front actually displays. BUT it would print 
correctly to PDF. I do seem to recall that some graphics would honor the 
clipping path in display, i.e. not show the stuff you want knocked out, 
but that they had to be background graphics maybe? I can't recall. In 
other words, if I put the graphics fully  within the text column, the 
transparency would not show. But if I placed the graphic in the page 
margin, I could move it in toward the text column, overlapping it, and 
text would run around the clipping path.


I probably got some stuff wrong there, but maybe it will point you in 
the right direction. The key point to remember is that clipping paths 
are necessary to get results in some circumstances, and those results 
might be visible on when you print.


Oh, and I think the graphics have to be EPS files. I don't think PSD 
files work. Your text frame on top of a text frame might also add a 
factor of complexity to it. So try it in the main text frame, first.


Mike

On 5/16/2020 11:21 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

Ladies & Gents,

Short question: Does FrameMaker 10 support transparency (i.e., no background) 
in imported graphics or not?

Details: I've created a "Text Frame" (not a Graphic Frame) on a page in a new document 
which has, of course, the usual frame for text flow. So that's a newly created Text Frame ON TOP OF 
a system-created "text flow frame" on a blank page. Then, in FrameMaker 10, I used 40 
percent Royal Blue as the Fill for the new Text Frame.

I then inserted my text into the new tinted Text Frame and inserted (by 
reference) a small graphic saved as a psd file which I've modified in Photoshop 
CS4 to have a transparent background (checkerboard pattern where the white 
background had originally been).

In this case, the text warns the readership of the journal that I edit to be responsible 
and not open certain e-mails (and you know the rest). I've found a small little 
anti-virus symbol to use with that text (a red-framed triangle with an exclamation point 
and the word "Virus" inside the triangle -- like a European road sign). The 
original version of the graphic was a jpg which had a white background around the 
triangle; so, like I said, I used Photoshop CS4 to do the layering-thing and delete the 
white background around the triangle, then saved the new image as a psd file (and also as 
a png file). The newly modified image looks just right.

But when I import (by reference) the psd (or even the png) version of that new 
image, the area around the red triangle still shows as white inside the tinted 
Text Frame. So it displays (and prints on a color laserjet printer) as a white 
box with the red-framed triangle inside the the blue-tinted Text Frame.

I checked various resources, including Adobe and YouTube videos, about doing 
the transparent layering thing and I am apparently doing that part correctly.

So is this a limitation of FrameMaker 10 (to not recognize transparent layers 
or whatever) or am I missing something? I would be most happy to take this off 
-list and send the image (and even the FM file) to whoever wants to take a stab 
at this.

Or must I somehow learn how to set the area surrounding the red triangle to the 
same color as the blue tint in the Text Frame in the FrameMaker 10 doc. And how 
to do THAT?

By the way, I do not have the resources or desire (especially in these tough times) to 
"upgrade" to a new FM version with a perpetual monthly fee.
-- Ken in Atlanta

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Re: [Framers] Questions re upgrading Frame from 7.1

[Mike Wickham]

I don't have FrameMaker 2019, but I'll answer a couple of these.

4. The scroll wheel issue was fixed long ago. Version 8?

8. Frame will open old Frame files, but once you save them, they will be 
in a new version that will no longer be openable by FrameMaker 7, 
without conversion. I believe FM 2019 will let you save as MIF 7-- 
though if you have used features that were not available in FM 7 days, 
you may lose some data. I have no experience with this. Others will be 
able to help more. There are also some fine, inexpensive scripts out 
there that let you save back to various FM versions-- but again, some 
things created with new version can't save backward.


There may also be some character conversion issues moving files in 
either direction. FrameMaker 8 moved to Unicode. So there are issues 
with the way some characters display (if at all) when you move files 
back and forth across that boundary.


10. I HATE the subscription model. FrameMaker 2019 still has the 
perpetual license available. and I implore you to go the perpetual 
license route so that the option doesn't disappear. It has disappeared 
for the other important Adobe products. Subscriptions are nice in that 
they can budget the high cost of software on a monthly basis, but they 
are a poor value in the long run. Subscriptions cost more in the long 
run. Adobe upgrades FrameMaker approximately every 18 months. It is $400 
to upgrade the perpetual license (if you own the most recent version), 
but it is $540 to rent the software on the subscription model for the 
same period. Not only that, but a perpetual license is an asset. If you 
sell your company, it increases the valley of your asking price. You can 
even sell the license standalone and get some or all your $1000 back. 
But with the subscription model, FrameMaker is not an asset. You get an 
expense and a contract liability. instead.


MOST IMPORTANTLY, if you ever stop paying the monthly rental, your 
software quits. You are done working in FrameMaker, unless your files 
can be converted safely back to your old FM7 version-- and you better do 
the conversion before the subscription runs out and FrameMaker turns off!


Mike


On 3/31/2020 7:01 AM, Wendy McGovern wrote:

Hi, Framers,
Apologies for a somewhat long post, but I would really like some input. We are 
contemplating finally upgrading from our Frame 7.1 (yep, had it for 17 years) 
to the newest version (Frame 2019). Our version of Frame has been ridiculously 
stable and its amazing features have served our purposes without having to 
upgrade over the years. We upgraded our computers to Windows 10 last year, but 
the 32-bit Frame has worked in that system so far. We do get messages about 
fonts changing when we change print driver to Adobe for making PDFs, but it 
hasn't had any ill effects for us. Some background:
We do legal books in Frame that use the generated files feature for summary and 
tables of contents, tables of cases, tables of statutes, and subject matter 
indexes. Most of our books have extensive footnotes (lawyers love to include 
footnotes that go on for 7/8ths of a page). We make PDFs of the books as well 
as send MIF files to a conversion company for EPUBs. We use unstructured Frame 
and don't need structure for anything. We don't use conditional text for 
anything. Recently, I had an incidence of Frame files in a book I was working 
on get corrupted where paragraphs had been bizarrely messed up and lost the 
work I had done on the files in the last week or so. Another coworker had saved 
a Frame file to RTF and later couldn't open the Frame file again because it 
said it didn't recognize the file format. This is leading us to believe that 
maybe it is finally time for us to bite the bullet and upgrade to be compatible 
with all the other software out there now. So, some specific quest

io

  ns (keeping in mind the unstructured environment):
1. I was going to ask if Frame 2019 allows the old Escape key sequences of 
Esc-jj and Esc-cc to work, because I saw on the list that they broke those 
functions in the later versions-but I see from the Frame 2019 manual online 
that they have restored those functions in 2019. So this functionality works 
well now?
2. Is Frame ever going to fix the footnotes problem? I've replied to Adobe's 
feature requests over the years, and they still don't have a fix.
3. Is Frame 2019 stable as far as people using it now can tell? (I've seen some 
posts here about problems creating PDFs and other things that shouldn't be 
happening with recent versions of Frame.)
4. There was a small problem with Frame 7.1's ability to use the scroll wheel 
that needed a special mouse driver that we had to use and we had to reinstall 
it when we went to Windows 10, but once the driver was in place, it was fixed. 
I'm assuming Frame 2019 doesn't have any issues like this anymore, right?
5. Another minor problem with our Frame is a glitch where if you hold down the 
mouse a little too long when

Re: [Framers] How would you approach this? Listing New Stuff

[Mike Wickham]

If a List of Effective Pages is workable, Silicon Prairie Software makes 
an LEP plugin that might help:

https://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/Products.html

Mike

On 2/17/2020 11:09 AM, Peter Gold wrote:

Would the List of Effective Pages help? A web search gave some results.

O


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

[Mike Wickham]

Optical margins are margins made to look visually straight. FrameMaker 
makes them actually straight. So, if you have a line that begin with, 
say, a quotation mark or an apostrophe, there is a bit more white space 
at that point on the line, because the character is small. Your eye 
notes that and your brain tells you that the column edge isn't exactly 
straight. With optical margins, characters are shifted slightly to make 
them visually appear straight. Here's a short article with a graphic 
that shows it:

https://indesignsecrets.com/tip-of-the-week-using-optical-margin-alignment.php

Yes, FrameMaker can use old style numerals if the file has them, but not 
automatically. You can't just type the numbers and get oldstyle, you 
have to use the Character Map to find them in the font and then copy or 
type in their Alt-codes. Programs that support OpenType features can be 
set to automatically convert to old style numerals.


Again, yes, there are also fonts that have numerators/denominators and 
super/subscripts, and you can use them if you set up variables or go the 
Character Map route, but that's extra work. If Frame just had separate 
settings for them, instead of just one, you wouldn't even need a font 
that contained these characters. Or, if Frame utilized OpenType 
features, it would pick those automatically.


But, you're right, I should file them as a feature request. Again. :)

Mike


On 1/16/2020 7:48 AM, Lin Sims wrote:

What is an optical margin?

Also, if you're looking for "old style numerals", are you talking about
where numbers like the 3 extending slightly below the baseline? That
appears to be a function of the font set as much as anything else. I'm
pretty sure I've seen fonts that provide that still.

As for super/subscripts or numerators/denominators, again, depending on the
font you use, there are font sets that include super and subscript glyphs
that work well as numerators and denominators, instead of using the
superscript/subscript function on the character designer. I've got a whole
set of variables that are just constructed fractions using built-in font
glyphs. (We use Source Sans Pro because it has a lot of the mathematical
symbols we need and it also lets us construct those fractions.)

At any rate, if there are features you'd like added, you can always put in
a feature request: https://tracker.adobe.com/#/home
Talk about them here and I'm sure a bunch of us would vote for them. You
can also make requests on the Adobe FrameMaker forum:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/framemaker/bd-p/framemaker?page=1=latest_replies=all
and
tag it with Feature Request.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 6:17 PM Mike Wickham  wrote:


New versions of FrameMaker always seem to concentrate on adding features
for the structured community. I get it. That's the strenght of the
program. But the new features I'd like to see involve handling of
graphics and type. For example, it would be nice to be able to make a
graphic float in the middle of a two-column page, and have both columns
wrap around it. Or how about taking advantage of the various OpenType
features that InDesign can handle with ease, but Frame is clueless
about-- like easy, true small caps, or oldstyle numerals? Or optical
margins and hanging indents, for a more modern, refined look in printed
docs? Or a separate offset setting for numerators and denominators?
Right now, you can set superscript and subscript offsets to work for
either super/subscripts or numerators/denominators, but not both.

Mike

On 1/15/2020 2:54 PM, TW Smith wrote:

Over the years, I've beta tested a few FrameMaker versions. I always test
on live projects, which I know isn't the best idea, but it gives me
information about how the beta works in the real world. Before the beta
concludes, I save my project files as MIF, so I can continue documenting

in

the non-beta, current FM version. Not sure what I need in a new version

of

FM. Probably stronger Word filters, a better way to round-trip MIF, and a
more robust and straightforward way of finding missing fonts in the

actual

files. Cheers.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:58 PM Robert Lauriston 
wrote:


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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 2020

[Mike Wickham]

New versions of FrameMaker always seem to concentrate on adding features 
for the structured community. I get it. That's the strenght of the 
program. But the new features I'd like to see involve handling of 
graphics and type. For example, it would be nice to be able to make a 
graphic float in the middle of a two-column page, and have both columns 
wrap around it. Or how about taking advantage of the various OpenType 
features that InDesign can handle with ease, but Frame is clueless 
about-- like easy, true small caps, or oldstyle numerals? Or optical 
margins and hanging indents, for a more modern, refined look in printed 
docs? Or a separate offset setting for numerators and denominators? 
Right now, you can set superscript and subscript offsets to work for 
either super/subscripts or numerators/denominators, but not both.


Mike

On 1/15/2020 2:54 PM, TW Smith wrote:

Over the years, I've beta tested a few FrameMaker versions. I always test
on live projects, which I know isn't the best idea, but it gives me
information about how the beta works in the real world. Before the beta
concludes, I save my project files as MIF, so I can continue documenting in
the non-beta, current FM version. Not sure what I need in a new version of
FM. Probably stronger Word filters, a better way to round-trip MIF, and a
more robust and straightforward way of finding missing fonts in the actual
files. Cheers.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:58 PM Robert Lauriston 
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Re: [Framers] Font not available

[Mike Wickham]

I have a very vague recollection that this error would show when 
printing registration marks-- and was told that FrameMaker internally 
chooses Times to create them. I could be remembering that wrong, though. 
It was a long time ago.


Mike

On 5/24/2019 1:06 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Framers,

  


I am getting this message when I save as PDF from FrameMaker 2019.

  


The "Times" Font is not available.

   It will be replaced by "Times New Roman".

  


It is causing my document to reflow when I create a PDF. I am not using
Times in the document.

  


I can see where the reflow is taking place: a paragraph that was two lines
is now one line. But that paragraph uses Arial so I don't get why it reflows
when I switch to the Adobe PDF printer. Any help would be appreciated.

  


Rick

  


Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com <mailto:r...@frameexpert.com>

585-729-6746

www.frameexpert.com/store/ <http://www.frameexpert.com/store/>

  

  

  


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Re: [Framers] Adobe PDF Printer versus my printer

[Mike Wickham]

Rick,

As far as I know, that warning message can't be turned off. It is 
FrameMaker warning you that changing printer drivers may cause your 
document to reformat. Most people think that changing the print driver 
just changes where the document will print, but it does more than that. 
The characteristics of the driver also determine how the document will 
display on screen. Usually, this makes little difference, maybe not even 
a noticeable difference. But, sometimes, as you have seen, it changes 
the word- or line-breaks and can cause an extra line of text to appear 
in a paragraph, bump the last line of a table to the next page, or force 
a graphic to the next column or page. This can throw off the appearance 
of pages, rippling all the way forward. And if you are preparing for a 
press printed book, it can, for example, cause the need to print 17 
pages, when the signature (the folded stack of pages that will be sewn 
into a book) is only 16 pages.


This is why it became best practice to use SetPrint to automatically set 
AdobePDF as the default printer for FM when it loads. What you then see 
on screen will always be exactly what you see in the PDF and, then, the 
PDF will always be exactly what you see on _any_ printer or on _any_ 
other computer screen. Then, of course, you would print the PDF, rather 
than the .fm file, to your printer.


If you don't want to use SetPrint, you might see if your desktop printer 
has an option to download fonts, instead of using internal fonts. This 
is a little slower, because it means that the printer must retrieve the 
fonts from your computer, rather than using whatever version of them it 
has hardwired, but I _think_ it might help with the reformatting.


Mike

On 4/9/2019 2:46 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hi Framers,

When I save as PDF, FrameMaker automatically changes the printer driver to
Adobe PDF. So far so good, but I get this message:

"The font information for your system has changed. This change may affect
the format and output of your document(s)."

Most of the time this doesn't matter, but I do occasionally get different
line breaks even when I am just using Arial in my document. When the PDF is
done, the line breaks in the FrameMaker file change back to the way they
were as the printer driver is changed back to my default. Is there a good
solution that will prevent this from happening?

  


I have tried unchecking the "Rely in system fonts only; do not use document
fonts" checkbox, but that doesn't seem to make a difference. Thanks in
advance.

  


Rick

  


Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

r...@frameexpert.com

585-729-6746

www.frameexpert.com/store/

  

  

  

  

  


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Re: [Framers] Best Method, Word 2013 to Frame 2019.

[Mike Wickham]

Seconding Art's suggestion and fixing his spelling :) for 
FindChangeFormatsBatch. You might also find the TableCleanerES script 
useful.


Mike Wickham

On 3/11/2019 10:56 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

Rick Quattro's RindChangeFormatsBatch is the best tag and style remapping
tool I've found -- highly recommended .



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Re: [Framers] Spell checker stopped working in Frame 2017

[Mike Wickham]

Have you tried selecting the Dictionaries button in the spelling checker 
window, and then selecting the "Mark All Paragraphs for Rechecking" 
check box? From help:


"FrameMaker rechecks only paragraphs that have been edited since the 
previous check. If you change options after spell-checking a document, 
consider running the Spelling Checker again after instructing FrameMaker 
to mark all paragraphs for rechecking."


Mike

On 3/8/2019 12:39 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:

My spell checker has stopped working. It no longer finds any spelling mistakes, 
even when the file contains them. I reinstalled and it didn’t fix the problem. 
Any suggestions? How do I fix this?

Thanks,
-Gillian
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Re: [Framers] OT: Punctuation question

[Mike Wickham]

For comma placement, I'd pick #1, which matches the _Chicago Manual of 
Style_, but I'd also suggest tightening the sentence and removing 
passive voice. Result:


"The information displays across five tabs: Overview, Category, Locus, 
Sequence, and Details."


I would note that the Chicago style is typically used by book 
publishers, while AP style is used for newspapers. The latter omits 
certain commas and words to make them fit better into short stories in 
narrow columns. In any case, sometimes minor rewrites eliminate fights 
over punctuation.


Mike Wickham

On 1/7/2019 12:34 PM, tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

Consider the following three sentences:

  


1.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which, from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

2.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right, are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

3.)The information is displayed across five tabs, which from left to
right are the following: Overview, Category, Locus, Sequence, and Details.

  


Three different editors. Three different copy edits. I have my 'druthers,
but I thought I would reach out to all the writers on this list and get a
majority opinion. And yes, I am saying opinion, because I know that there is
an absolute right and wrong, but I need to be neutral and non-judgmental
when supplying my feedback and making the correction. Three egos are
involved. . . .

  


TVB

  


Tammy Van Boening

Tammy dot vanboening at spectrumwritingllc dot com

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

  


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Re: [Framers] Can't open character palette or hex input

[Mike Wickham]

Here's a link that lists solutions for moving an off-screen window to 
the current monitor:


https://knowledge.autodesk.com/search-result/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/Dialog-window-does-not-display-in-AutoCAD-and-the-program-appears-to-freeze.html

On 1/4/2019 9:31 AM, Lin Sims wrote:

As above. I wanted to use the character palette to insert a checkmark.
Clicked Insert > Character > Character Palette.

Nothing. No error message, no character palette, just a bunch of nothing. I
even restarted Frame.

Obviously, I can use the Windows Charmap instead, but I find it very
puzzling that the character palette is suddenly not working for me. I've
got Frame 2019 to the latest patch available. Has anyone else noticed this,
or am I just special?



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Re: [Framers] File storage best practice

[Mike Wickham]

I prefer to keep graphics in a subfolder of the book folder. I create 
them in appropriate size, in original RGB profile, and at 300 dpi, as 
EPS. Keeping RGB is smaller than CMYK, with broader color gamut, and 300 
dpi is high resolution, suitable for print. But, before creating final 
output, I duplicate that original subfolder as backup, then run a script 
in Bridge or Photoshop on the original to either convert to CMYK for 
printing press (keeping 300 dpi), or run a script to resize to 96 dpi 
for online.


I feel that keeping the graphics in their own subfolder makes it easy to 
keep multiple versions, to swap in and out, depending on output 
destination. I would note that the various archiving scripts that are 
available all seem to want to automatically pull graphics from anywhere 
on the computer and place them in an images subfolder, anyway.


Mike Wickham

On 11/29/2018 12:25 PM, Doug wrote:

I'm facing the challenge of organizing the file structure of dozens of
documents and their respective imported graphics.  What's are the best
practices in this regard?  I'm inclined to maintain an Images folder with
separate sub-folders for each document's graphics, and another sub-folder
for graphics that are common to multiple documents.

Where I worked before we stored images in a sub-folder below the document's
FM folder, but I'm leaning away from that approach since it complicates
things when you are scanning images outside of Frame.  And other reasons,
of course.

Thanks,

Doug
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Re: [Framers] Upgrade to FM-15 aka 219

[Mike Wickham]

I'd be curious to hear what the upgrade price is from FM12, if there is 
one. Anyone know, without me having to make a call?


Mike Wickham

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Re: [Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results

[Mike Bond]

Ok so let me add what I have found out by looking around in the software.

It looks like it has to do with the "Paragraph Designer".

If I highlight a line in question and then unclick the "Autonumber Paragraphs" 
the numbering goes away.

How do I set it up so that the numbers don't come up by default?

Thanks,

Mike



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I have switched to this FrameMaker 2017 and finally ran a compile saving a 
uder.ditamap as .fm and got added numbering.

Almost everything has a number before it. I am guessing that there is a 
different EDD maybe but I will ask someone who knows more about this stuff than 
I do.

Thanks in advance.

Mike



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[Framers] switching from Frame 10 to 2017 with unexpected results

[Mike Bond]

I have switched to this FrameMaker 2017 and finally ran a compile saving a 
uder.ditamap as .fm and got added numbering.
Almost everything has a number before it. I am guessing that there is a 
different EDD maybe but I will ask someone who knows more about this stuff than 
I do.
Thanks in advance.
Mike

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Engineering Technician


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Ambrell Corporation

an inTEST Company
1655 Lyell Avenue | Rochester, NY 14606 | USA
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Re: [Framers] Using Folders and Groups

[Mike Wickham]

I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter 
folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There 
is a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the 
book, I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds 
generated files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used.  I 
recall playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently 
on them, so abandoned that idea.


I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders 
and groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on 
"hierarchical books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at 
the latest edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer 
(though not complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in 
version 9.


Mike

On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote:

Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is
there any information out there on the how and when and why of using them,
or when one is better used than the other?

So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in Adobe's
help files, and I want more in-depth information.

I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be
useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what
information is where and the like, because two of those sections are nearly
identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but
there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure if
it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to
trial-and-erroring today until I get it.



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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

[Mike Wickham]

If you're going to convert to Word from PDF, you might want to used 
tagged PDF for the conversion. Original PDF was not interested in the 
data, only its position. PDFs purpose is page layout. The idea of PDF is 
to create a document that looks exactly the same on every computer 
screen, with no changes due to text flow, installed fonts, window size, 
etc. Consequently, it stores data in very strange ways. Words aren't 
necessarily stored as words, or paragraphs as paragraphs. The phrase 
"text frame" might be stored as "te," "xtf," "r," and "ame" objects, for 
example, and PDF tracks which font and where to draw these bits of text. 
It's weird that the text blocks that are created by PDF, and the visible 
order of them, might even be stored in a different order in the file. So 
trying to put these objects back into proper order for conversion to 
other formats may not work well.


Anyway, as I recall, using tagged PDF causes the PDF to actually store 
paragraphs as paragraph blocks, etc. So, reconstructing the data in a 
proper way for conversion from PDF to Word should be better.


Mike Wickham

On 4/18/2018 5:29 AM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote:

Mike,
Not tagged. Never do that.





On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:09 AM, Mike Wickham <i...@mikewickham.com> wrote:


Bodvar,

It might depend on whether the PDF was saved as tagged PDF or not.

Mike Wickham

On 4/17/2018 12:35 PM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote:



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Re: [Framers] Frame alone or Adobe too?

[Mike Wickham]

Bodvar,

It might depend on whether the PDF was saved as tagged PDF or not.

Mike Wickham

On 4/17/2018 12:35 PM, Böðvar Björgvinsson wrote:

Peter Gold,
pdf-ed by printing book from FM 2013 to file, then distilling. In Acrobat
Save as Word. My only guess is that this font is a bit more exaggerated
serif than the standard Times (etc.) and the font size was only 10 pt.
Also,  it seemed to create a text frame on each page for the contents.

Bodvar



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Re: [Framers] FrameMaker 14 horrific resource hog?

[Mike Wickham]

Years ago, I had an issue with very slow cursor movement. If you Google 
search "S-L-O-W cursor movement in FrameMaker 9", you will find full 
details. Anyway the cure was File> Preferences> Interface, then uncheck 
"Hide panels on close." If checked, closed panels stay loaded and 
hidden. Adobe eventually fixed the bug, but it wouldn't surprise me if 
they reintroduced it accidentally, while fixing something else.


Mike Wickham

On 3/20/2018 3:28 PM, Harding, Dan wrote:

I just upgraded from FM12 to FM 14 as I have 4K monitors and FM12 is simply 
unusable on high res displays.

I like to work with many pods open, but find that I simply cannot with FM14, as 
the lag when moving the cursor with pods open is unbearable. As I close pods, 
the performance improves, but to get to the point where there is no lag means 
having at most 1 pod visible at any time.

None of my other applications scale so poorly with respect to resource usage.

It appears that every time you move the cursor, Frame tries to poll/update 
every visible pod.

Is there any way to make things more usable other than not displaying pods?

My workstation is a Dell Precision 5810 with dual Xeon processors and 64GB of 
RAM running Windows 10 Enterprise 64-bit.

The only weak point in my system is the video card, which is an AMD FirePro 
4100, but it's pushing three 4K monitors and one 3K monitor simultaneously. 
Even set to 30Hz rather than 60Hz refresh rate, that's a lot of pixels to be 
pushing around.

Would upgrading the video card help in this regard, or are there other issues 
at play with how Frame updates the display?

Thanks in advance.

-Dan
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Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 142, Issue 17

[Mike Wickham]

I'm not sure if I'm remembering this correctly, but I think "Bolded" 
(rather than "Bold") is FrameMaker's way of saying that no actual bold 
font was available for use. Rather, someone used the Bold button in the 
toolbar (or selected Bolded in a paragraph or character designer) to 
apply a fake bold characteristic to text that uses the Symbol font. If I 
remember right, the Bold button will work as expected, if an actual bold 
font exists-- but if the font doesn't exist, then bold ("bolded") is 
simulated.


In the old days, of dot matrix printers, bold could be simulated on 
screen and in print by double displaying/printing text, with the second 
printing offset by a pixel to make the text look fat. Likewise, italics 
could be faked by incrementally offsetting each row of pixels in the 
text to make it appear to slant. It was ugly, but worked. When there is 
no actual bold or italic font, the Bold and Italic buttons attempt to do 
this. They mimic the effect on screen.  Note that this doesn't work with 
all fonts. So you may have the Bolded style applied, but not be able to 
see any bold text.


But displaying a fake attribute on screen doesn't mean that it will 
print, and it certainly won't work in a PDF, since the needed font is 
missing. Best practice is never to use the Bold or Italic buttons, since 
you may not know if you have an actual bold or italic font to back it 
up. You don't know what you will get. So always use an actual paragraph 
or character format to apply bold or italic style-- and don't choose 
"Bolded" or "Obliqued" if it pops up as an option, rather than true Bold 
or Italic or Oblique.


Anyway, if this is the case, you might be able to use Find/Change to fix 
it. Select Find: Character Format. Then, in the dialog that pops up, use 
Shift+F8 to set everything to "As is," then select Weight: Bolded. Click 
Set to close the dialog. Then click Find to find text that has the 
bolded attribute. Remove the bolded attribute. If you want bold, you 
will need to get a bold version of the font in question.


Hopefully, someone who understands this better will chime in if I got it 
wrong.


Mike Wickham

On 1/29/2018 4:54 PM, Catherine Forrest wrote:

Stefan, SymbolBolded is reported as missing even though the docs have no bolded 
symbols. The Symbol character tag with no weight is applied.
SymbolBolded is not in the Fonts pod. I've searched for it with no luck. It's 
not on the body, reference, or master pages. I've even looked at one of the MIF 
files and didn't see Symbol Bolded anywhere.



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Re: [Framers] Static image to video feature

[Mike Wickham]

I see the feature listed in the help file for FrameMaker 10. So it goes 
back at least that far.


Mike Wickham

On 11/15/2017 6:56 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

Is that something new in FM?

If yes, do you know what FM version that started in?


On 15-Nov-17 2:48 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:
You can import movies, SWF files, and 3D objects into a FrameMaker 
document
for viewing the resulting PDF. See this topic in the FrameMaker 2017 
help

files: "Import movies, SWF files, and 3D objects".

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Re: [Framers] Embedding attachments in FM that remain attachments when PDF'd

[Mike Wickham]

I have never used it, but Acrobat has a PDF "portfolio" feature that 
lets you package other documents with the PDF. Perhaps it would have 
some use for you.


Mike Wickham

On 8/2/2017 9:29 AM, John Posada wrote:

Hi, Steve...and everyone.

I have no issues with the process of placing the attachment somewhere (in
our case, Share Point) and linking to it with a URL...I do hundreds of
these to files on SP and my issue isn't wanting to click an icon rather
than a link.

In this case, I didn't want to do a link of any type because where these
types of files are kept is in a secure location and people won't get in,
though these particular files are not restricted access due to governance
approval. I wanted them carried along in and with the PDF to not worry
about access permissions.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Steve Rickaby <
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:




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Re: [Framers] Can I make a setting that will launch 4 books?

[Mike Wickham]

The WS Utilities plugin lets you specify files to open on FM launch. I 
have mine set to open two .book files on launch. Set it in 
WS_Utils_Settings.txt at FILES_TO_OPEN_ON_STARTUP.


WS Utilities also lets you create a dropdown Favorites menu. I've put 
links to template files, style guides, other book files, etc. in there.


Here's the link for the utility:
http://www.weststreetconsulting.com/WSC_Utils.htm

Mike Wickham

On 8/1/2017 3:49 PM, John Posada wrote:

Hi, guys...over the next 2 weeks, I need to have 4 books loaded. Is there a
setting I can make that when I launch FM, I can load all four books without
having to go book by book?




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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Mike Wickham]

Yes, it can still be an issue on Windows, if you are unaware of the 
steps necessary to prevent automatic conversion from CMYK to RGB. The 
latest versions of FrameMaker have improved CMYK support built-in, but 
there are still reports of it being tricky. So I have stuck with using 
EPS for graphics. FrameMaker passes EPS around the Windows GDI, 
eliminating the potential of unexpected CMYK to RGB or Pantone to RGB 
conversions by Windows. I don't use Pantone colors, so someone else 
would have to comment on the details of using them.


It's also important to be sure that Acrobat isn't set to convert colors.

Mike Wickham


This begs a question, with my apologies if it has been belabored here in the 
past.

In pre-press work on Mac, I often had extensive struggles with the final PDFs 
for all sorts of reasons (extraneous plates, hairlines and so on), but 
'helpful' conversion *from* CMYK was never one of them.

Is this still an issue with Windows FrameMaker? The thought of Pantones being 
converted to RGB is the stuff of nightmares.




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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

[Mike Wickham]

FrameMaker is an old program and EPS is an old all-purpose kind of 
format. It acts as an envelope for both vector and bitmap graphics, 
without automatically converting vector to bitmap. If you want maximum 
resolution on printing press, vector is preferable for line drawings 
because it is infinitely resizable without pixelation. EPS is also the 
only way to keep Windows GDI from automatically converting CMYK graphics 
to RGB. If your destination is printing press, CMYK is preferred over 
RGB. EPS was also the only way to keep Windows from converting Pantone 
colors to RGB. So, if your destination is printing press, EPS graphics 
are still the safest way to go (although PDF graphics can also do the 
job now).


I hope I got that all right.

Mike Wickham

On 9/9/2016 10:47 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

I'm still wondering why EPS is a requirement. That's not normally a
source format, and as an exported format there's not usually no reason
to prefer it to alternatives.




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Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

[Mike Wickham]

Don't install Adobe Type Manager! This program could wreck your 
computer's ability to properly handle fonts. Adobe had to issue a fix to 
repair computers where ATM was uninstalled. 
https://forums.adobe.com/thread/395626


On 6/30/2016 6:53 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:

Frame 7.2 CD did not have Adobe Type Manager.


Mike Wickham

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Re: [Framers] Zapf Dingbats

[Mike Wickham]

I've heard recommendations to use Adobe Pi as a replacement.

The document may be printing fine because of printer-resident versions 
of Zapf Dingbats on a Postscript printer. If you have a Postscript 
printer, and still have the installation disk, it probably has a copy of 
Zapf Dingbats that you can easily install on your computer to make the 
font available to all programs.


Mike Wickham

On 6/30/2016 10:16 AM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
I've opened a (very) old document which uses Zapf Dingbats which are 
not on my current system. The document prints correctly from Frame 12, 
but the screen display is gobbledygook.


What do people use for these fonts nowadays?

Thanks,
Theresa



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Re: [Framers] OT: Great Event, Great Ride!

[Mike Wickham]

102 miles? Dude, you're a machine!

Mike Wickham

On 6/27/2016 8:45 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Hello Framers,

An update on the 2016 Ride for Roswell: Both Jason and I completed the 102
mile route. The weather was perfect and we both had personal-best times for
that distance. (He is 39 years younger, so yes, his time was much faster
than mine :-).) Thank you to all of the generous framers that donated to
supporting cancer research. This year there were over 8 thousand riders that
collectively raised over 14 million dollars! Thanks again for your support!

Rick

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Re: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

[Mike Wickham]

Ignore the forward slashes in my post. I had italicized "See" and that's 
how it came through to the list.


Mike Wickham

On 5/31/2016 5:48 PM, Mike Wickham wrote:
I prefer the simpler "/See /Fig. X.X." It's also active voice. In 
fact, I also prefer to eliminate compound numbering. See "The Case for 
Simple Numbering:"


http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/nonum.html

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Re: [Framers] "Exemplified" - use in technical documentation?

[Mike Wickham]

I prefer the simpler "/See /Fig. X.X." It's also active voice. In fact, 
I also prefer to eliminate compound numbering. See "The Case for Simple 
Numbering:"


http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/nonum.html

Mike Wickham

On 5/31/2016 11:50 AM, Stephen O'Brien wrote:

Hi,

A new technical writer uses « exemplified in Fig. X.X» in captions to describe 
images in our technical reference documentation for a quality control software.



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Re: [Framers] Rick's Ride and Suggestions for Plugin

[Mike Wickham]

Hi, Rick,

I found some old information on the CleanImport plugin. Apparently, 
there was no documentation with the zip file of the plugin, but I had 
made a PDF of an earlier version of the website page which had minimal 
instructions that might be of use to you. I'll email it to you


Mike Wickham

On 5/17/2016 6:18 PM, Rick Quatro wrote:

Does anyone have documentation for the original CleanImports plugin?





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Re: [Framers] reused content for different products - best practices ?

[Mike Wickham]

You might also want to look at using the popular BookVars plugin. It 
lets you easily define a set of variables (one for each product), then 
pop them into the book with a couple of clicks. It's easy and a real 
timesaver.


http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php
http://docs.leximation.com/bookvars/2.00/

Mike Wickham

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Re: [Framers] Searching for content in FrameMaker files

[Mike Wickham]

I'm not sure if you've tried this, or if it will work, but in the search 
indexing options, there is an Advanced button that opens Advanced 
Options. On the File Types tab in that window is a section, "How should 
this file be indexed?" Options are "Index Properties Only" and "Index 
Properties and File Contents." Perhaps you need to change that setting 
for the .fm file type? I notice that my .fm extension was set to "File 
Properties filter." When I changed it to also index content, the file 
type now shows "Plain Text Filter" next to it. I didn't test whether or 
not it changed the indexing.


Mike Wickham

On 5/7/2016 8:28 AM, Austin Meredith wrote:

I don't seem to be able to persuade the File Explorer of Windows 10 to
find Boolean content inside FrameMaker2015 files. I've tried all the
obvious tricks such as making certain that the file suffixes ".fm" and
".frame" are included in the indexing list, and deleting and rebuilding
that indexing list. File Explorer will find the name "Thoreau" if it is
part of the FrameMaker file's filename such as "ThoreauINDEX.fm" and
will indeed find the name "Thoreau" when it is *inside* a '.txt" or
other file, but refuses to find the name "Thoreau" for me when it is
inside a ".fm" or ".frame" file. What am I doing wrong? -Austin
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Re: [Framers] Cannot get FM to drop the even-numbered blank page

[Mike Wickham]

From the book file, check the settings for the next file in the book. 
If, for example, your file ends on a right-hand page, but the next file 
is set to start on a right-hand page, then FrameMaker is forced to add a 
blank left-hand page in between.


Mike Wickham


On 4/27/2016 7:06 PM, Nancy Allison wrote:

 Hi, all.
There are two clear, concise explanations about how to start each
chapter in your FM book on the next available blank page, whether left
or right. The two descriptions are here:
[1]https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-start-chapter
s-on-the-next-available-page/
[2]https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-automatically
-assigning-custom-master-pages/
I have done what they recommend, checked, and rechecked, and still FM
inserts a blank even-numbered page at the end of chapters that would
otherwise end on a left-handed page.
What am I missing?
Thank you, one and all.

References

1. 
https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-start-chapters-on-the-next-available-page/
2. 
https://www.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-automatically-assigning-custom-master-pages/
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Re: [Framers] Best way to replace one template with another without using plugins?

[Mike Wickham]

If the paragraph/character tag names are all the same in the new 
template, you can select all the files in the book and then import the 
formats. Any formats that are the same name will be overwritten. Any in 
the old document that don't exist in the new template, will be left 
untouched, and any formats that exist in the new template, but not the 
document, will be added. This could leave you with formats that you no 
longer want and would want to manually delete.


The Paragraph Tools and Character Tools plugins 
fromhttp://siliconprairiesoftware.com 
<http://siliconprairiesoftware.com>let you create a conversion list that 
can rename formats from one name to another in a single stroke, making 
it easy to import from a new template that has different format names.


Mike Wickham

On 4/12/2016 2:48 AM, Studio Smalbro wrote:
What is the best way to replace on template with another using only 
FrameMaker 12?

Can it be done bookwide?

As of now I manually delete all tags and formats and do an Import 
Formats, and it works, but it is cumbersome and prone to errors. Can 
it be done otherwise?


Best regards
Bjørn


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Re: [Framers] slow-scrolling images

[Mike Wickham]

John,

Another thing to check is whether or not you have the Insets pod open in 
the file. If open when you load the file, FrameMaker loads all the 
images before it displays the file (and, of course, populates the info 
in this pod). This makes the file open slowly, but, once open, the 
images appear instantly as you scroll. On the other hand, if the Insets 
pod is closed when the file is opened, the file opens quickly, but the 
images don't load until you scroll to them. So changing your workspace 
could give the appearance that the images are suddenly loading slower 
than they used to.


It may make a difference, too, depending on your preference setting for 
Hide Panels on Close. Check to be sure that it is unchecked. If I recall 
correctly, checking this setting box means that closing the Insets panel 
just hides it, but it is still in the background. So the file still 
wants to take time to update it.


Mike Wickham

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Re: [Framers] About text frames

[Mike Wickham]

The AutoText plugin ($10) makes this even easier:
http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/

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On 4/6/2016 12:49 PM, Heiko Haida wrote:

I would recommend to simply copy/paste the callout frames from an
exiting frame instead of inserting new text frames.




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Re: [Framers] Shrinkwrapping

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I'm not aware of any way to change it, except to manually drag the 
handles of the anchored frame. You can change the offset of the image 
from the top left corner of the anchored frame to zero (in object 
properties), so that it butts against that corner, but you have to 
manually drag the diagonal corner to remove the other extra space.


0.353mm is equivalent to one typographic point. Presumably, FrameMaker leaves a 
1 pt border around the image so that we can see the anchored frame that holds 
it.

Mike Wickham


On 4/1/2016 5:52 PM, Craig, Alison wrote:

I've never used the graphics shrinkwrap option so when I tried it out yesterday 
I was surprised to find that it left a margin of 0.353mm around the edges.

Is there a way to set this margin to zero? I couldn't find anything in the 
Frame 12 user documentation.




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Re: [Framers] Re Screen Capture tools ...

[Mike Wickham]

The SnagIt plugin for FrameMaker was discontinued. I think SnagIt 
version 9 was the last one to include it.


Mike Wickham

On 3/30/2016 11:00 PM, Carol J. Elkins wrote:
Steve, where is the Snagit plug-in available? I'm not seeing it on 
their Web site (but I see other "Outputs" that might come in handy 
later--https://www.techsmith.com/snagit-outputs-windows.html?utm_source=product_medium=snagit_campaign=sw11). 
What version of Snagit does it work in?


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Re: [Framers] 2015 Release, miniTOC

[Mike Wickham]

Yes, the built-in mini TOC generator of FM 2015 creates only one mini 
TOC per file, but you can manually create as many mini TOCs as you want, 
using cross-references. They can be made to automatically fill in 
heading text, page number, etc. of the TOC list items, but a manually 
made TOC won't automatically add a new list items to itself.


So, if you make a manual mini TOC of Heading1 paragraphs, and add a new 
Heading1 paragraph in the document, you will have to manually add a new 
list item and appropriate cross-references to the mini TOC.


Mike Wickham
On 2/17/2016 1:50 PM, Stamm, David wrote:

2016-02-17-03T19:50Z

Based on my limited test, a .fm file may contain only one miniTOC.

If you can confirm or refute that, please do.  If you know how to have more 
than one miniTOC in a .fm file, please help me learn how to do that.

All pertinent info is welcome.

Thanks,
Dave Stamm
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Re: [Framers] Frame to PDF Issues

[Mike Wickham]

Specifically, Microsoft Security Essentials was to blame in that case.

Mike Wickham

On 1/12/2016 2:47 PM, Jeff Coatsworth wrote:

Somebody on the Adobe forums just found that their real-time anti-virus program 
had a super impact on PDF creation; once they turned it off for FM and the 
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Re: FrameMaker documentation

[Mike Wickham]

Klaus, I got manuals with 7.0 and 7.1. They appear to be identical 7.0 
manuals. I  did not buy 7.2, so don't know on that one. 8.0 definitely 
did not come with a manual, nor any of the versions since.


Mike Wickham

On 12/19/2014 3:16 AM, Klaus Daube wrote:

Can somebody please refresh my memory?

In http://www.daube.ch/docu/fmaker69.html I say:
«
Getting Started guides: At least since FM-8 these guides have disappeared. It's 
my
impession that newcomers are not considered a relevant group of users by Adobe.

User Guides: Until FM ??? you got a thick manual. Starting with FM-??? the box 
only
contains a DVD with the program and help files have been dislocated from your 
PC to
the web. The manual from FrameTechnology for FM-5 was 5cm thick (due to the 
chaper-
page numbering the number of pages is difficult to get). Adobes manual for FM-7 
has
660 pages. Obviously some information must have been streamlined - or left out. 
Some
special information in separate online-manuals (e.g. concerning asian languages 
or
customisation of FM) has not been put forwared to newer versions of FM.
»

What number I have to put in place of the ???
Are my statements in error generally?

Thanks
Klaus Daube


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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF

[Mike Wickham]

I'm viewing on a monitor, not a phone. For me, the TOC button moves to 
the bottom of the screen when window size is reduced.


Mike Wickham

On 12/15/2014 12:53 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

That seems like really bad UI to me. Not only does the TOC disappear,
there's nothing you can click on to get it.



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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF

[Mike Wickham]

Okay. I see now that I wasn't even seeing the TOC window at 1920 pixels 
wide because I have IE set to display at 150%. So I didn't know what I 
was missing. When I dropped down to 125% view, it popped in.


Mike Wickham

On 12/15/2014 1:33 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

At around 1280 pixels or wider, there's a TOC nav tree in a left-hand
pane. In the middle of the border between the TOC and the topic pane,
there's a left arrow you can click to minimize the TOC. Minimized,
there's a right arrow to expand it.

At less than 1280, the expanded or minimized TOC disappears, and I see
no way to get it. There is a button in the top left corner you can
click to *replace* the current topic with a hard-to-navigate version
of the TOC with huge amounts of white space.




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Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped; in PDF and HTML5

[Mike Wickham]

Are you sure the items are missing? The blog about the new help files said:

*/Content organization:/* FrameMaker is a powerful product packed with 
rich functionality. However, not all users use all of its functionality 
all the time. While improving the guide, we made a conscious attempt to 
minimize scattering of information and keep content around related 
features together. For example, information about using structured 
authoring features forms two neat chapters in the new user's guide. This 
information was spread across several chapters in the earlier user's guide


Mike Wickham

On 12/12/2014 2:18 PM, David Spreadbury wrote:
From the size of the New version, compared to the Old version, I 
would expect a lot of good stuff.

Old has just shy of 700 pages. New has just shy of 1000 pages.
That's 300 pages of information that wasn't available in the Old.
I have to ask, why are there items missing from the New?



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Re: Text Inset vs. Variable Question (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Mike Wickham]

It sounds like you are on the right track, using a single file to create 
variables and then importing them. Too bad you can't install third party 
software, because I think the only way to make this easier would be to 
use the inexpensive BookVars plugin:


http://leximation.com/tools/info/bookvars.php

Mike Wickham

On 12/10/2014 1:58 PM, Zacchetti, Maeli E CIV USARMY ECBC (US) wrote:

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO

I'm getting back to unstructured FrameMaker 10 (after two years of 
having to use MS Word). So apologies if I don't use some of the 
correct terms or if I'm misunderstanding some of FrameMaker's 
capabilities!


I'm doing the planning work for converting a technical manual from MS 
Word into FrameMaker 10. The system has over 100 parts, currently each 
part has two to five different variations on the name scattered 
throughout the manual, so a huge component of this conversion is 
getting the nomenclature down to a single version of each part name. 
Since most of the names will change at some point in the next year my 
goal is a single point of edit for each part name, to save some 
headaches down the road.


On previous projects I've used ~20 part name variables (created in a 
master file, then applied to each *.fm file through a book update) and 
then inserted that part's variable any time I need to use the part 
name.  For this project with 100+ parts it seems like that could start 
getting painful, just in terms of scrolling through a massive variable 
list.


I was thinking that I could use text insets as another option, if it 
were possible to import from a single cell in a table (e.g. excel 
file). That would let me use the spreadsheet that I'd have to create 
anyway for planning out the variables (and internal tracking of what 
name I'm assigning to a given part number).


In the past I've used text insets to reference repeated short 
paragraphs, using a series of individual text documents to hold each 
paragraph. So I guess I could do the same thing again, but then I'd 
end up with 100+ text files, which seems like a different kind of 
inconvenient compared to the 100+ variables.


One major limitation: with my organization's network policies I cannot 
install 3^rd party software, and the review and approval process to 
purchase extensions or supplements to Adobe's software would be so 
arduous that it may as well be impossible. So I'm limited to what I 
can do without having to install anything else.


Any advice or suggestions would be appreciated! (Or even advice on 
where I could go to read up on the various ways to effectively manage 
nomenclature updates in unstructured FrameMaker.)


Thanks,

Maeli Zacchetti

maeli.e.zacchetti@mail.mil

Technical Writer

U.S. Army

In modern times, if the sole measure

of what's out there flows from your five senses

then a precarious life awaits you.

- Neil DeGrasse Tyson


Classification: UNCLASSIFIED
Caveats: FOUO



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Re: How do you get fractions in FM 12?

[Mike Wickham]

LeftAlt+0189 is the ½ character in most fonts.

Mike Wickham

On 12/9/2014 10:12 AM, tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:
I have text that expresses one-and-one-half as 1-1/2, which could be 
interpreted as 1-to-1/2. I would like to be able to show the fraction 
without the hyphen.




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Re: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11

[Mike Wickham]

The installations screens do not make it obvious and many overlook the 
option. A while back, Arnis Gubins posted screenshots on where to look:

https://forums.adobe.com/message/5927477#5927477

 IT told me that there was no option to not install Distiller. The 
only options they saw were FM12 and ExtendScript ToolKit CC. Any ideas?


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Re: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11

[Mike Wickham]

 First, I'm not sure what you mean by using a virtual machine.


I don't know how to best explain it, but a virtual machine is basically 
a software program, like Virtual PC, that runs on your computer. It 
creates an, artificial computer in memory, where you install the 
operating system of choice. Once the virtual machine is created, when 
you run it, the experience is exactly like working on a computer with 
that operating system. Multiple virtual machines can be installed on the 
same computer. So, a person might have one each for XP, Vista, Windows 
7, etc. installed on a single computer.


Here are a couple of links for the virtual machine software from 
Microsoft, which is probably the most commonly used:


Overview of Virtual PC software and versions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Virtual_PC

Download of Virtual PC for Windows 7 (free for certain Windows 7 
versions, but not Home):

http://www.microsoft.com/en-US/download/details.aspx?id=3702

Mike Wickham


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Re: Problem with playing video clips in FM 12 document viewed in Adobe Reader 11

[Mike Wickham]

Are all of these versions of Adobe Reader on the same computer? If so, 
Adobe recommends against that, as they tend to stomp all over each 
other, breaking things. The same thing can happen if you have Reader 
installed on the same computer as Acrobat. If you have Acrobat, you 
should not install Reader or the PDF Creation Add-on that comes with 
FrameMaker on that same computer.


Mike Wickham

On 11/14/2014 6:17 AM, tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:
I have inserted several short video clips into a small manual created 
with FrameMaker 12 (all clips are mp4 format). Book file is saved as a 
PDF. When I open the PDF in Acrobat 9 or Adobe Reader 11 and click on 
the icon for any of the videos, I see only a black box. When I open 
the same PDF in Reader 10, the clips all play just fine. Any ideas? 
This document needs to be distributed widely and won't work if it 
can't be viewed in the current version of Reader.




Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc
1140 Sullivan St . Elmira, NY 14901 . USA
Telephone +1 607 735 4279 . Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 734 1245
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Re: mouse alternative

[Mike Wickham]

Even better, get a trackball. You rest your hand in place and only move 
your thumb (plus occasionally click with a finger). Plus, you never run 
into that PITA issue where your mouse goes off the edge of the mouse 
pad, but you need to scroll further, so you have to lift the mouse, pull 
it back toward you, and set it down to continue scrolling-- sometimes 
multiple times. With a trackball, you only lift your thumb. (Or set the 
scroll rate to encompass the whole screen in one thumb swipe.) I've been 
using a trackball for years and would never go back to a mouse. Here are 
a couple from Logitech. I use an older model similar to the M570:

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/mice-pointers/trackballs

Mike Wickham

On 11/11/2014 9:42 AM, Stuart Rogers wrote:

Hi all,

From time to time, people have mentioned problems with RSI due to 
mouse use. I just came across this device and thought I'd pass it 
along. I have no other info on it, so can't offer a review.


https://deals.inetinteractive.com/sales/feather-mouse-the-swift-browsing-experience 



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Re: mouse alternative

[Mike Wickham]

I use my Wacom tablet for drawing, but it also came with a mouse that 
let's you use the tablet as a trackpad. Perhaps they still have models 
like that. It was much better than a mouse, but not as nice as a 
trackball, in my opinion.


Mike

On 11/11/2014 12:43 PM, Fred Wersan wrote:
I've been using a Wacom tablet for years. I switch back and forth 
between the tablet and my mouse to vary the stresses on my fingers and 
hand. This feather mouse looks like an effort to have a pen without 
the tablet.


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Re: mouse alternative

[Mike Wickham]

Speaking of keyboards, I won't part with my Unicomp buckling spring 
keyboard. They are the famous, original IBM keyboards that are heavy 
duty, have a great tactile feel with a nice audible click, and the 
keycaps are double-injected. So the letters can never wear off them. 
They should last a lifetime. Find them here in several configurations:

http://pckeyboard.com/page/category/UKBD

Mike Wickham

On 11/11/2014 12:40 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote:

I use them with Kinesis Freestyle 2 keyboards with the VIP3 lifter
attachment. I place the two parts of the keyboard about 6.5 apart.

http://www.ergonomicssimplified.com/products/images/keyboards/kinesis_freestyle_vip1.jpg




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Re: FM9 Crashes when Creating PDFs with files that Contain PDFs (WAS: Frame 9 Crashing – Can’t Create PDFs)

[Mike Wickham]

I thought I recalled Dov Isaacs explaining this as a Windows problem, 
rather than a FrameMaker problem. I found the following quote from him 
online, which appears to reference what was later called the 
fntcache.dat bug (and fixed with a hotfix and, later, Windows update), 
and a Windows bug relating to large page sizes and large fonts. I don't 
know if that one was ever fixed and may still require setting a lower 
dpi as a workaround. (I would note that I have no text or image dropout 
at 1200 dpi on Windows 7.)


NOTE: The following is a 10-year old quote:
(2) There is a known problem with FrameMaker under Windows only in 
which text may disappear from the output page (i.e., selective text 
dropout) when printing to PostScript devices, including Acrobat 
Distiller. Unfortunately, the problem is NOT reproducible from system to 
system or document to document either user sites or within Adobe itself. 
What we do know is that the larger the logical page size in combination 
with higher resolution settings aggravates the problems (i.e., makes it 
more likely that you will actually see the symptom). It is for this 
reason that we most strongly recommend that you NEVER use a Windows 
PostScript printer driver setting higher than 600 dpi with FrameMaker. 
If necessary to print to a higher resolution device, create PDF first 
(with the Adobe Distiller / Adobe PDF PostScript printer driver instance 
set to no more than 600 dpi) and then do the final print from Acrobat / 
Adobe Reader to the actual print device. In the rare instances where 
there is still selective text dropout, set the driver resolution to 300 
dpi. We know of no situations in which the selective text dropout 
persists at the 300 dpi setting. What are the ramifications of the lower 
resolution settings? The resolution of image data is not downsampled or 
degraded by this resolution setting. Nor is any damage done to vector 
graphics or the quality of text. What it does control for FrameMaker is 
the granularity of spacing, especially of text. Setting 600 dpi permits 
only 600 starting positions per inch and interword spacing in 1/600 
inch increments. Images and vector graphics positioning is likewise 
limited to such increments. At 300 dpi, the value falls to 300 starting 
positions and 1/300 inch increments. Anything under 300 dpi is 
absolutely not recommended and could yield some rather gnarly text 
spacing. Again, we recommend you start at 600 dpi and stay with that if 
you have no problems. (Note also that 600 dpi gets around another 
Windows GDI bug in which text formatted in larger point sizes is 
converted to unhinted outlines. 600 dpi allow for text in pointsizes up 
to approximately 100 points to remain as text for printing purposes.)

On 10/25/2014 10:40 AM, Heiko Haida wrote:


Hi Alison,

I also had problems to print some single pages to PDF in a larger DIN 
A3 format: The content was displayed partially, the page was not 
completely shown (without error message).
First I thought the graphic files were corrupt, as taking out the 
graphics would at least produce a PDF.


Then I found that the distiller profile was set to 2400 dpi, and after 
reducing this to 1200 dpi everything was fine.

I don't like it, but it seems FM has some internal memory problems here.

Maybe this also applies to your problem.

Best regards - Tino H. Haida, Berlin





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Re: FrameMaker: mysterious font substitution in PDF

[Mike Wickham]

Adding to Stuart's answer, if this is a situation where Windows is 
reading a printer-resident version of Helvetica from a Postscript 
printer-- rather than using a font that is actually installed on the 
computer--, the situation is usually easily fixable. The printer 
installation disk should contain a folder that holds all the 
printer-resident fonts. You canmanually install any that you want on the 
computer and they will then be embeddable in a PDF.


There is a warning related to Helvetica, though. There is a Windows or 
Internet Explorer bug (I forget which), which causes Web pages to 
display blank if they contain Helvetica as the first listed font in CSS 
and the Postscript version of Helvetica is installed on the computer. So 
if you start seeing blank Web pages in your browser, try uninstalling 
Helvetica from your computer-- or replace it with the OpenType version.


Mike Wickham
Are you sure the client actually has Helvetica on their system, and 
that Adobe PDF is their default printer (at least when using FM -- see 
Sundorne Setprint plugin)? It's possible their hardware printer is 
reporting the presence of Helvetica to the operating system, so that 
it appears to be present, but a printer-resident font can't be 
embedded in PDF.


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Re: . PDF query

[Mike Wickham]

On 10/20/2014 3:33 AM, Denis Daly wrote:

We will eventually wish to send to a print company though. I hope Adobe are 
able to fix this bug.



Here are a few tips if you plan to send to a print company:

1. Use EPS or PDF graphics. FrameMaker normally passes everything 
through the Windows GDI, which converts CMYK graphics back to RGB. EPS 
and PDF graphics are passed around the GDI, unchanged.


2. In maker.ini, set GetLibraryColorRGBFromCMYK=None. This gives the 
best match of screen and PDF colors.


3. In Distiller, check the color management settings of your PDF Preset 
(.joboptions file). For Settings Edit Adobe PDF Settings Color Tab 
Color Management Policies, do not set Tag Everything for Color 
Management. This can cause text to print as four colors instead of 
black only.


Hope that helps.

Mike Wickham

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Re: FM as PDF gold standard RE: PDF query

[Mike Wickham]

Craig,

It sounds like you got hit with the Windows XP bug that caused 
intermittent, unexplained dropping of text in PDFs. As I recall, the 
problem was with the MS Postscript processor. There was a Microsoft 
hotfix issued to deal with it. At the time, the problem and fix were 
pretty well known on this forum.


Mike Wickham

On 10/18/2014 11:51 AM, Craig Ede wrote:

Not to burst anybody's bubble, but even back in the fondly remembered
Golden Age of FrameMaker (circa 5.5-7.0) PDF could be faulty. I had
dropped captions there was no explanation for in tabloid printouts heavy in
graphics. Pretty simple stuff, a set of 16 graphics each inhabiting an eight
of a single sheet (double-sided), each having a short title caption in a
text box below it (below being relative to the image orientation). Somehow
one caption would just fail to print. All you folks still living in the
Golden Age; give that a try. My guess was that it some kind of buffering
issue that dropped things after a certain size was reached. It never
affected the graphics, just the text. (If memory serves, the issue may also
have be related to whether the text box was rotated, but the Golden Age is
so long ago now I'm not sure about that.)

Craig





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Re: PDF query

[Mike Wickham]

Actually, Frame print to PDF was the gold standard. Save as PDF was so 
buggy that all experts recommended against using it.


Mike Wickham

On 10/17/2014 4:46 PM, Lin Sims wrote:

Frame to PDF used to be the gold standard for PDF production. :(





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Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing

[Mike Wickham]

Stuart,

I haven't had need to work with text insets, but I'm wondering if you 
can shorten your procedure by inserting the non-breaking space into the 
autonumber format for the InsetAnchor paragraph format, and setting its 
position to End of paragraph. It seems like that would automatically 
add it where you want. Have you tried it?


Mike Wickham

On 10/1/2014 4:38 PM, Stuart Rogers wrote:
For insets (harder to maintain, depending on inset content), create a 
pgf tag in the container document, e.g., InsetAnchor:

Font Size: 12 pt
Color: (something other than black)
Spacing Above Pgf: --12.0 pt

In the inset source document, create a variant tag based on the last 
paragraph of the inset (e.g., BodyInsetLast as a variant of Body):

Spacing Below Pgf: --12.0 pt (negative 12 points)
Apply that tag to the last paragraph of the inset.

In the container document, create a new empty paragraph where you want 
the inset to go.

Tag the paragraph InsetAnchor.
In that paragraph, type a non-breaking space (to overcome the bug that 
reformats the paragraph on updating the inset).

Place your cursor just before the non-breaking space and import the inset.


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Re: PDF comments and FM 12, anyone?

[Mike Wickham]

I haven't yet used this feature myself, but here is an Adobe video 
showing it in action:

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/framemaker-12-features/fm12-enhance-pdf-review/

Mike Wickham

On 8/28/2014 2:56 PM, LGLists wrote:
I seem to recall that one of the new features in FM 12 is that you can 
continue editing the FM 12 files during the comment cycle and still 
bring in comments from the reviewed PDF.
Has anyone been using this? Does it work well? Does the version of 
Acrobat used (to create the original PDF and to do the edits) matter?




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Re: Structured: about containers, other matter and chapter numbering

[Mike Wickham]

I can't give advice on structured FrameMaker, but an easy way to make 
the correct title appear on the running header of an unstructured book 
is to use numbering properties. I assume the same applies to structured 
books.


1. In the files' appropriate master pages, insert the $volnum variable 
in the running header in a background text frame.
2. In the book file, select all files from one novella, then right-click 
and choose Numbering Properties.
3. On the Volume tab, click the Volume # radio button. Enter your 
novella title in the dialog box, and choose Text as the format. That's 
right. Numbering does not have to be numbering. It can be static text.

4. Click set.
5. Repeat steps 2-4 for the files in the second novella.

A novella is the simplest kind of document. It is basically straight 
text and not likely to have graphics, lots of variables, 
cross-references, hyperlinks, etc. It's not likely to even have many 
types of paragraph or character formats. I think setting it up as a 
structured document is probably overkill and a lot of unnecessary work. 
I would set it up using simple, unstructured documents, with properly 
assigned paragraph and character formats.


Mike Wickham

On 8/17/2014 4:56 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
In order to get the two novellas to display the correct title of the 
story (novella) on the master page, I understand I’ll need separate 
books (nested). 



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Re: web-safe fonts characters 2014

[Mike Wickham]

I can tell you one font that is NOT Web-safe: Helvetica. I recommend 
that you keep it out of your Web documents. There is a Windows bug that 
causes IE to display Web pages as blank when Helvetica is installed on 
the computer and listed as the first font in a page's CSS. When I was 
unfortunate enough to have problems displaying Web pages, it took me 
quite a while to find the solution online. If you search Google for 
Helvetica blank pages IE, you'll see all kinds of information on it.


Mike Wickham


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Re: Removing custom row heights

[Mike Wickham]

I don't know if this is what the original poster meant, but Table 
Format Row Format lets you set minimum and maximum row heights for tables.


Mike Wickham

On 7/6/2014 9:55 AM, Shmuel Wolfson wrote:

What do you mean by custom row heights?


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Re: OT: InDesign CC 2014

[Mike Wickham]

Yeah, but with the CC subscription model, even if Adobe never again 
comes out with a new feature that you want or need, you must continue 
paying your monthly fee indefinitely just to continue using the features 
you already bought. No thank you on the subscription model.


Mike Wickham

On 6/20/2014 7:30 AM, Rick Quatro wrote:

I went to a CC 2014 launch event at Rochester Institute of Technology last
night. One interested InDesign feature: drag and drop tables. Move rows and
columns around in tables by simply selecting, dragging and dropping. Very
nice.

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com





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Re: Reproducible FM12 file corruption?

[Mike Wickham]

The bug is reproducible on my computer, too.

Mike Wickham

On 5/30/2014 12:30 PM, Harding, Dan wrote:

I've been seeing occasional wonkiness (yes, I know... it's a technical term) 
since upgrading from FM10 to TCS5 (FM12), but I think I have narrowed at least 
one of them down to the point where the behavior is reproducible on demand, but 
I'll be darned if I know what is triggering it.

Let's find out if it's just my installation/environment or if it affects others.

I'm running TCS5 under Windows 7, 64-bit Enterprise.

To try to eliminate character  paragraph format catalog issues and template 
anomalies, once I was able to reproduce the behavior, I tried doing the same in a 
generic FM file, and am also seeing the behavior there, so that's what I'm going to 
walk through. I've included screenshots of what I see along the way.

1. Create a new file using the default Portrait blank paper.

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-1.png

2. Copy in a few paragraphs of generic text (I use www.lipsum.com).

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-2.png

3. Save the file.

4. Place your cursor in one of the paragraphs.

5. In the Paragraph Designer, change the Spread to 1% and hit Enter to Apply.

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-3.png

6. Save the file.

7. Press Ctrl+z to undo.

8. WHAMMO!

http://www.taxschool.illinois.edu/images/fm/fm12-4.png

On my system, the margins change completely, as if room for side heads was 
added. In my main working file it also put footnotes in the middle of pages.

Also, it's not just any kind of change prior to a save and then undo that 
triggers the corruption. Simple text edits do not trigger it, however changes 
in the paragraph and character designers do. It's not just font attributes, but 
changing paragraph attributes and applying them, followed by a save and undo 
will also trigger the corruption. Changing the color of selected text via the 
tool palette, save, undo, will also trigger it.

It appears to be the sequence of (1) anything involving changing *ATTRIBUTES* 
of text, (2) a save, and (3) an immediate undo, that triggers it. If I do the 
above steps without a save, the undo does not cause the corruption. It's as if 
reverting to a pre-save state makes FM go haywire.

Now that I know what triggers the page going nuts, I now know what to avoid 
doing. I would experience this periodically since I'm a save-monkey, and 
wouldn't know what the heck was going on.

Bizarre.

Dan Harding
Technical Editorial Specialist
University of Illinois Tax School
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Re: FrameMaker 8 to a Newer Version

[Mike Wickham]

Your FM8 templates should work fine in FM12 and you've already 
discovered that some plugins will need updates to work.


You said you lost your FM8 disk. It probably wouldn't work anyway, since 
there was a Windows change that broke it. You can download a fixed 
version of the installation file (labeled as XP SP3 fix) here:

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/product.jsp?product=22platform=Windows
You would, of course, need your license key to install it. If you've 
lost that, you should be able to get it from your My Adobe account. 
Otherwise, the free Belarc Advisor can retrieve it for you.


Mike Wickham

On 5/14/2014 11:53 AM, MacDonald, Helen wrote:


Hi Framers,

I am presently using structured FrameMaker version 8 on Windows XP. 
(And we seem to have lost the original software disks.)  Writing 
commercial airlines manuals using a template created for FrameMaker 6. 
And using SDI software to create the cgm graphics from eps files.


I have not had any problems using the template but plugins do not 
work.  I have not tried to output as XML so I don't know how that will 
go.  I have only been using FrameMaker for a little over a year and am 
the only TW in my company.


My company wants to move me off of XP to Windows 7.  And is looking to 
upgrade the FrameMaker to either version 10, 11, or 12. (These are the 
versions they can find to buy legal licenses with.)


Does anyone know if there will be any issues with a template created 
for FrameMaker 6 running on these newer versions?  Since I am fairly 
new to FM I don't cause myself extra grief.


I have opened a file (that I created in FM 8) in a trial version of FM 
12 and it looks okay but I don't know if there are things going on 
behind the scenes. Are there things I should be looking for?


What issues might I have?

Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you for your time,

Helen MacDonald

PTI Technologies Inc.




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Re: Having problems with importing an EPS file into FrameMaker ...

[Mike Wickham]

If your EPS graphic is a vector drawing, I would not follow Alison's 
suggestion to save as a PNG bitmap. That will greatly degrade the 
drawing by rasterizing it. EPS handles vectors perfectly, resizing them 
without degradation. Of course, they still look awful inside 
FrameMaker-- because FM only shows you a low-res preview to save 
computer memory. But the vector will look perfect in PDF. Even if the 
viewer of the PDF zooms in, the vector will resize without degradation.


Mike Wickham

On 3/6/2014 4:57 PM, Craig, Alison wrote:


As you have CS3, open the EPS in Illustrator and use the */File  
Export/* option to save it as a PNG.


Our web guy also says that in Photoshop you can use */File  Save for 
Web.../* then use the PNG-24 option.


Alison




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Re: search with RegExp RE: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies

[Mike]

My question was ignored many times during the webinar. Do the search
enhancements include finding matches in included files? Currently, the only
way I can search for strings in my books that single-source included files
is to generate a PDF and search in it.


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I'm especially excited about the search with regular expressions. If that
 helps me easily modify the markers I'm inserting using Shlomo Peret's Form
 Assist, that will be a huge TimeSaver for me (pun intended).

 Max, maybe you can schedule a webinar by Shlomo highlighting this use of
 that feature.

 Craig

  From: mhoff...@adobe.com
  To: i...@mikewickham.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
  Subject: RE: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies
  Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 20:18:57 +
 
  Mike,
 
  You are correct. That was my post. The point I was making was that if
 you subscribe for 2 years (no SW maintenance fees required) you are bound
 to get another release.
 
  Regardless of how much someone may just not like FrameMaker 12, it
 would be difficult to accept this as a minor release. Product development
 has speeded up addition of time-saving features over what we experienced
 7-9 years ago.
 

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Help with book folders and groups in structured docs

[Mike]

I am interested in the folder and group functionality for books, but cannot
seem to get it to work. If I try to put topics in individual files in
folders or groups, it seems to  break the structure. I put the Chapter
element in the first file of a folder or group, then put the Topic elements
in files below that file. It looks like Frame cannot handle this situation.

If that is the case, I guess I don't see the benefit or purpose of folders
and groups in books.

Thanks,

Mike Heavin
Sr. Technical Writer
Trading Technologies

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Re: Now OT, I suppose. RE: Adobe pricing policies

[Mike Wickham]

I don't have the original message handy, but I think the original poster 
was saying that at least the last three FrameMaker releases have been on 
an 18-month cycle. We get a new version of FM every year and a half. 
This was previously the case with Creative Suite software, too.


Mike Wickham

On 1/24/2014 10:54 AM, Roger Shuttleworth wrote:
Three releases of FrameMaker in 18 months - really? I must have 
missed two of them. 



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Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

[Mike Wickham]

Guys, you keep emphasizing that I used a quote of Dov's from 10 years 
ago-- and I did (9 years ago, actually). But I also included one other 
quote and a link to third message in the same post. These were from 
times more recent. One was from 2010, which was only one version back in 
Acrobat. I'd call that a recent quote. I'm also sure I've seen Dov say 
similar later, I just couldn't quickly find a quote to include.


Anyway, do what you want regarding mixing Acrobat and Reader, but it's 
not really fair to grab the oldest quote of three and claim it makes all 
the advice old.


Mike

On 1/23/2014 6:05 AM, Davis, David wrote:

I'd echo Syed's point here -
We Tech Pubs folk have a habit of repeating something Dov Isaac's said over a 
decade ago like it's some kind of holy writ,
but 10 computer years is about a century in real years ;) Things may well (and 
certainly ought to) have changed since then.




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Re: Subject: RE: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

[Mike Wickham]

On 1/23/2014 1:17 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:

Do people here feel that it is necessary to check a PDF in a Reader 
only environment if that PDF looks fine in Acrobat?




I don't normally feel it is necessary. My understanding has always been 
that Reader is basically the viewing portion of Acrobat. So if it 
doesn't look right in one, it won't look right in the other. I see 
Acrobat as Reader, plus a bunch of other features that we have to pay 
for. I don't know if that's accurate, but it's my impression.


Having said that, there are a few times that I've found it necessary to 
check a file in Reader (on a separate computer). I've never seen any 
differences in _appearance_ (assuming that I remembered to embed all 
fonts, which I always do because I have my joboptions set to do so by 
default), but I have seen problems in functionality. Examples include 
forms that didn't work in Reader, but did work in Acrobat, because I had 
some setting wrong. Or the review feature not working-- again, because 
it wasn't set up right beforehand. So I may check a form in Reader, or a 
PDF being sent out for review.


Mike Wickham



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Re: OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

[Mike Wickham]

Here are some quotes from Dov Isaacs of Adobe, one of our patron saints 
around here:


 /Although you CAN have both Reader and Acrobat installed 
simultaneously//(assuming the same version), it is very strongly NOT 
RECOMMENDED for a//number of very good reasons. It certainly does not 
add any functionality//to one's system..//.

/
//
/- Dov ///

Here's a link explaining some reasons why:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pdf@lists.pdfzone.com/msg03152.html

  I am sure we will get the inevitable responses from members of this 
list that boast about how they have multiple versions and/or mixtures of 
Acrobat and Reader concurrently installed and somehow get some or most 
of the functionality to work for them. On the other hand, there are a 
tremendous number of problems reported to Adobe that are suddenly 
cleared up when the user's systems are scraped of all concurrent 
versions of Acrobat and Reader, replaced by a single version of one or 
another. (Note that by Acrobat I mean any and all pieces of it 
including the Distiller, the AdobePDF PostScript printer driver 
instance, and the viewing program!)


  But, some list members will complain, how do I know what the 
recipients of my PDF file will see on their systems if I also don't have 
a copy of Reader installed, or perhaps multiple versions of Reader and 
Acrobat installed? The response to that is to have test systems (or 
separate test partitions of your one system) that have minimal software 
installations (especially fonts) and a copy of the target version of 
Adobe Reader. That is the only way to truly simulate the user 
experience. For that matter, old, slower systems are even more appropriate!


  - Dov   

I got the above results using Dov Isaacs Reader Acrobat on same 
computer as a search term on Google. There are more results.


I think the bottom line is that putting Reader and Acrobat on the same 
computer is not wise, but if you risk it, make sure both are the same 
version. You would be better off to set up a Windows Virtual PC with 
only default operating system and fonts if you feel the need to test a 
Reader view. Even then, which version of Reader will you test? Users use 
different ones. And don't forget to embed all fonts.


On 1/21/2014 12:39 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:

OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

All,

I have heard on many occasionsthatyou should not have Adobe Acrobat 
Pro and Adobe Reader installed on the same client, but I need to test 
something in Reader before I  pass a PDF off and all three of my 
available systems already have Adobe Acrobat Pro loaded. Is it 
possible to load Reader at all just for some brief testing andthen 
uninstall it after the testing is complete, or will I encounter any 
issues by doing this?


Thank you,

TVB




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OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client

[Mike Wickham]

Here are some quotes from Dov Isaacs of Adobe, one of our patron saints 
around here:

  >/Although you CAN have both Reader and Acrobat installed 
simultaneously//(assuming the same version), it is very strongly NOT 
RECOMMENDED for a//number of very good reasons. It certainly does not 
add any functionality//to one's system..//.
/>
//>
/- Dov />//

Here's a link explaining some reasons why:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pdf at lists.pdfzone.com/msg03152.html

  > I am sure we will get the inevitable responses from members of this 
list that boast about how they have multiple versions and/or mixtures of 
Acrobat and Reader concurrently installed and somehow get some or most 
of the functionality to work for them. On the other hand, there are a 
tremendous number of problems reported to Adobe that are suddenly 
cleared up when the user's systems are scraped of all concurrent 
versions of Acrobat and Reader, replaced by a single version of one or 
another. (Note that by "Acrobat" I mean any and all pieces of it 
including the Distiller, the AdobePDF PostScript printer driver 
instance, and the viewing program!)

  > But, some list members will complain, how do I know what the 
recipients of my PDF file will see on their systems if I also don't have 
a copy of Reader installed, or perhaps multiple versions of Reader and 
Acrobat installed? The response to that is to have test systems (or 
separate test partitions of your one system) that have minimal software 
installations (especially fonts) and a copy of the target version of 
Adobe Reader. That is the only way to truly simulate the user 
experience. For that matter, old, slower systems are even more appropriate!

   - Dov   >

I got the above results using "Dov Isaacs Reader Acrobat on same 
computer" as a search term on Google. There are more results.

I think the bottom line is that putting Reader and Acrobat on the same 
computer is not wise, but if you risk it, make sure both are the same 
version. You would be better off to set up a Windows Virtual PC with 
only default operating system and fonts if you feel the need to test a 
Reader view. Even then, which version of Reader will you test? Users use 
different ones. And don't forget to embed all fonts.

On 1/21/2014 12:39 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote:
> OT: Adobe Acrobat Pro and Adobe Reader on same client
>
> All,
>
> I have heard on many occasionsthatyou should not have Adobe Acrobat 
> Pro and Adobe Reader installed on the same client, but I need to test 
> something in Reader before I  pass a PDF off and all three of my 
> available systems already have Adobe Acrobat Pro loaded. Is it 
> possible to load Reader at all just for some brief testing andthen 
> uninstall it after the testing is complete, or will I encounter any 
> issues by doing this?
>
> Thank you,
>
> TVB
>
>

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Re: FrameMaker 12 released

[Mike Wickham]

Syed, I think your math is right on. I can't understand why anyone would 
pay more for a subscription that will render their software useless the 
moment they stop paying. If they fall on hard times, the perpetual 
license lets them at least keep working with their software as long as 
they can keep a compatible operating system on an old computer.


If the issue is someone not being able to come up with the upgrade fee 
all at once, and a monthly payment sounds more attractive, then they 
should consider getting a short term bank loan (or put it on a credit 
card) and pay the bank an even smaller monthly payment to buy the 
perpetual license.


And here's another thing, if a company thinks a monthly subscription is 
a better to budget, they might also want to think about the resale value 
of their company, should they ever want to sell it. A perpetual license 
is an asset that can be resold and adds value to a company. A 
subscription is future liability that reduces its value. If, as an 
individual, they ever want to stop using FrameMaker, they can resell 
their personal perpetual license and get some of their money back. Not 
so with a subscription.


I used to buy every upgrade of Creative Suite until it switched to the 
Creative Cloud model. Now, CS6 is my last purchase in that line. I won't 
pay big money for software that turns off completely if I stop paying. 
I've also bought every FM upgrade since version 6, except for v10, which 
offered no features that I needed. I will be buying the FM 12 upgrade 
for sure. But I will be done buying if FM ever goes to the 
subscription-only model.


Those of you buying subscriptions are making it more and more likely 
that the rest of us will lose the perpetual upgrade option in the near 
future. If you look at how hard Adobe is trying to get people to buy 
subscriptions, you will see that it is their desire to move FrameMaker 
to that model. Let's not let them take away our choices.


Mike

On 1/17/2014 9:22 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) wrote:

Using an 18 month model, the software subscription for FrameMaker is: 18 * 
29.99, which is $539.82.

An upgrade is $399 for that same upgrade in that 18 month period, right? And 
then the license is perpetual (at least until Adobe abandons this model in the 
future entirely), so that version keep working once somebody stops upgrading 
(not so in the subscription case when cancelled).



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