Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Pat Christenson]

I have occasionally found "missing fonts" lurking in a table definition. If you 
delete Format A and Format B, or replace and delete their default paragraph 
formats, the table and paragraph formats are still hanging around (in "deep 
cover"). I've been able to correct it in MIF.

Hope this helps,
Pat Christenson

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On Behalf Of Catherine Forrest
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Subject: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

I'm trying to do something that is seemingly simple...use the Remember Missing 
Font Names preference to get rid of missing font messages.
Here's what I've done:   
   - Launch Framemaker.
   - Select File > Preferences > General.
   - Deselect Remember Missing Font Names.
   - Open, save, and close the affected file.
The next time I open the file, the messages should be gone. However, the same 
missing font message is displayed.
In the MIF file, I don't find any mention of the missing font. The List of 
Fonts in one file doesn't list the font at all. And searching for the font 
doesn't help.
What am I doing wrong? I know this is a perennial issue in FrameMaker.
Catherine
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Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Rob Wallis]

 If it is a strange font or one you know you haven't used, a better idea is
to search for the character format using that particular font, and remove
it, or change it to a font you do have. This can apply to master and
reference pages as well as body pages.

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Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Stefan Gentz]

Which font (exactly) was reported as missing before you tried to get rid of it 
by turning off "Remember missing font names"? And which font (exactly) is 
reported as missing now?
I'm asking, because FM replaces fonts by a standard mappings (see maker.ini). 
And maybe something like "Fontname1 Heavy" was replaced with "Fontname2 Heavy" 
(which might be not present as well) or somethings replacement problems come up 
with Bold, Italic, BoldItalic replacements.

 
Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Adobe Worldwide TechComm Evangelist
  
 

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Thanks to everyone for suggestions on how to get rid of missing fonts. I had 
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Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Catherine Forrest]

Thanks to everyone for suggestions on how to get rid of missing fonts. I had 
already tried those things, unfortunately, and they hadn't worked. 
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Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Craig Ede]

You can use the Fonts pod to replace particular missing fonts with a font you 
select. That way you don't have relics of an earlier era hanging around hidden 
in a table format definition of para formats to use when creating a new table.


I think this is a cleaner way that simply relying on replace missing fonts. I 
don't think replace missing fonts updates para tags  for things like table 
formats that are not currently being used.


Craig



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Check your images and reference pages too - fonts can be lurking in there also



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Subject: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

I'm trying to do something that is seemingly simple...use the Remember Missing 
Font Names preference to get rid of missing font messages.
Here's what I've done:
   - Launch Framemaker.
   - Select File > Preferences > General.
   - Deselect Remember Missing Font Names.
   - Open, save, and close the affected file.
The next time I open the file, the messages should be gone. However, the same 
missing font message is displayed.
In the MIF file, I don't find any mention of the missing font. The List of 
Fonts in one file doesn't list the font at all. And searching for the font 
doesn't help.
What am I doing wrong? I know this is a perennial issue in FrameMaker.
Catherine
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Re: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Jeff Coatsworth]

Check your images and reference pages too - fonts can be lurking in there also



From: Framers 
<framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=jonasclub@lists.frameusers.com> on behalf 
of Catherine Forrest <catherine.forr...@ymail.com>
Sent: January 23, 2018 5:16 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

I'm trying to do something that is seemingly simple...use the Remember Missing 
Font Names preference to get rid of missing font messages.
Here's what I've done:
   - Launch Framemaker.
   - Select File > Preferences > General.
   - Deselect Remember Missing Font Names.
   - Open, save, and close the affected file.
The next time I open the file, the messages should be gone. However, the same 
missing font message is displayed.
In the MIF file, I don't find any mention of the missing font. The List of 
Fonts in one file doesn't list the font at all. And searching for the font 
doesn't help.
What am I doing wrong? I know this is a perennial issue in FrameMaker.
Catherine
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[Framers] Getting rid of missing fonts

[Catherine Forrest]

I'm trying to do something that is seemingly simple...use the Remember Missing 
Font Names preference to get rid of missing font messages.
Here's what I've done:   
   - Launch Framemaker.
   - Select File > Preferences > General.
   - Deselect Remember Missing Font Names.
   - Open, save, and close the affected file.
The next time I open the file, the messages should be gone. However, the same 
missing font message is displayed.
In the MIF file, I don't find any mention of the missing font. The List of 
Fonts in one file doesn't list the font at all. And searching for the font 
doesn't help.
What am I doing wrong? I know this is a perennial issue in FrameMaker.
Catherine
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Missing Fonts message

[Tammy Van Boening]

FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences  General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts for every closed,  non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?

TIA,

TVB
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RE: Missing Fonts message

[Tammy Van Boening]

I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I
was dealing w/ that issue also.)

 

Thanks,

 

TVB

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
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Subject: Missing Fonts message

 

FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences  General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts for every closed,  non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?

TIA,

TVB

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Re: Missing Fonts message

[Writer]

It's from 2007, but this thread might help: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-April/007323.html

Nadine


Missing Fonts message
I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little 
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I was 
dealing w/ that issue also.)
 
Thanks,
 
TVB
 
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Subject: Missing Fonts message
 
FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences  General, I have Remember Missing 
Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update w/out 
opening all of files, I get the message Could not open FileName.fm because it 
uses unavailable fonts for every closed, non-generated file in the book; 
however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the message about 
Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font will be used 
instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing from these 
files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I don't open 
every file in the book when updating the book?
TIA,
TVB
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RE: Missing Fonts message

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tammy,

 

Go to File  Preferences  Alert Strings and see if the File contains
Unavailable Fonts. checkbox is checked. If it is not, you won't get missing
font messages when you open a file. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:51 AM
To: 'Tammy Van Boening'; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Missing Fonts message

 

I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I
was dealing w/ that issue also.)

 

Thanks,

 

TVB

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Missing Fonts message

 

FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences  General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts for every closed,  non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?

TIA,

TVB

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RE: Missing Fonts message

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thanks Rick and Nadine. It's a bit more involved, but it's using the new
feature from 9 that I had to remember : View  Pods  Fonts with an
offending file open and then select the missing font and click the Replace
icon to select the replacement font.

TVB


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Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:12 AM
To: Tammy Van Boening; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Missing Fonts message

It's from 2007, but this thread might help:
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-April/007323.html

Nadine


Missing Fonts message
I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I
was dealing w/ that issue also.)
 
Thanks,
 
TVB
 
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Missing Fonts message
 
FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences  General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts for every closed, non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?
TIA,
TVB

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Missing Fonts message

[Tammy Van Boening]

FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences > General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message "Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts" for every closed,  non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?

TIA,

TVB
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Missing Fonts message

[Tammy Van Boening]

I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I
was dealing w/ that issue also.)



Thanks,



TVB



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Missing Fonts message



FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences > General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message "Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts" for every closed,  non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?

TIA,

TVB

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Missing Fonts message

[Writer]

It's from 2007, but this thread might help: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-April/007323.html

Nadine


>Missing Fonts message
>I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little 
>flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I was 
>dealing w/ that issue also.)
>?
>Thanks,
>?
>TVB
>?
>From:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Missing Fonts message
>?
>FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.? For File Preferences > General, I have Remember Missing 
>Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update w/out 
>opening all of files, I get the message "Could not open FileName.fm because it 
>uses unavailable fonts" for every closed,?non-generated file in the book; 
>however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the message about 
>Filename. fm? using unavailable fonts and stating what font will be used 
>instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing from these 
>files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I don't open 
>every file in the book when updating the book?
>TIA,
>TVB

Missing Fonts message

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Tammy,



Go to File > Preferences > Alert Strings and see if the "File contains
Unavailable Fonts." checkbox is checked. If it is not, you won't get missing
font messages when you open a file. Please let me know if you have any
questions or comments. Thank you very much.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

rick at frameexpert.com







From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 10:51 AM
To: 'Tammy Van Boening'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Missing Fonts message



I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I
was dealing w/ that issue also.)



Thanks,



TVB



From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Missing Fonts message



FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.  For File Preferences > General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message "Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts" for every closed,  non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm  using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?

TIA,

TVB

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Missing Fonts message

[Tammy Van Boening]

Thanks Rick and Nadine. It's a bit more involved, but it's using the new
feature from 9 that I had to remember : View > Pods > Fonts with an
offending file open and then select the missing font and click the Replace
icon to select the replacement font.

TVB


-Original Message-
From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 9:12 AM
To: Tammy Van Boening; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Missing Fonts message

It's from 2007, but this thread might help:
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2007-April/007323.html

Nadine


>Missing Fonts message
>I am sorry - fat-fingered the message. It's FM 10, not 7. (I am a little
flustered this morning as one of our email accounts has been hacked and I
was dealing w/ that issue also.)
>?
>Thanks,
>?
>TVB
>?
>From:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening
>Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 8:34 AM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Missing Fonts message
>?
>FM 7, Win 7, 64 bit.? For File Preferences > General, I have Remember
Missing Font Names Selected. I have inherited a book that if I try to update
w/out opening all of files, I get the message "Could not open FileName.fm
because it uses unavailable fonts" for every closed,?non-generated file in
the book; however, whenever I open any of these files, I do NOT get the
message about Filename. fm? using unavailable fonts and stating what font
will be used instead. How do I figure out what fonts are supposedly missing
from these files and get this cleaned up so I can avoid this message if I
don't open every file in the book when updating the book?
>TIA,
>TVB

Re: FM10 bug: missing fonts vs. TOC

[Robert Lauriston]

FM10 apparently deleted the TOC file and created a new one, reverting
some of the settings, such as page numbering, to defaults. I've had
this happen a few times with FM10.

Good idea on printing the PDF, given the potential problems with
changing printers.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Combs, Richard
richard.co...@polycom.com wrote:
 FM recreates the TOC every time you update the book. Can you provide more 
 information about this particular update, like the text of the error message 
 and just what settings were wrong?

 (And let this be a lesson -- print to PDF and send _that_ to the LaserJet.
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FM10 bug: missing fonts vs. TOC

[Robert Lauriston]

FM10 apparently deleted the TOC file and created a new one, reverting
some of the settings, such as page numbering, to defaults. I've had
this happen a few times with FM10.

Good idea on printing the PDF, given the potential problems with
changing printers.

On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 8:02 PM, Combs, Richard
 wrote:
> FM recreates the TOC every time you update the book. Can you provide more 
> information about this particular update, like the text of the error message 
> and just what settings were wrong?
>
> (And let this be a lesson -- print to PDF and send _that_ to the LaserJet.

FM10 bug: missing fonts vs. TOC

[Robert Lauriston]

Usually my selected printer is Adobe PDF since the main thing I do
with FrameMaker is generate PDFs. I printed some redrafted pages
today, so I selected a LaserJet. I forgot to change back to Adobe PDF,
and the next time I updated the book, I got an error that FrameMaker
was recreating the TOC. The new TOC's settings are wrong, so I need to
retrieve the file from source control.

Seems to me that FM should prompt before taking such a destructive action.
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RE: FM10 bug: missing fonts vs. TOC

[Combs, Richard]

Robert Lauriston wrote:
 
 Usually my selected printer is Adobe PDF since the main thing I do
 with FrameMaker is generate PDFs. I printed some redrafted pages
 today, so I selected a LaserJet. I forgot to change back to Adobe PDF,
 and the next time I updated the book, I got an error that FrameMaker
 was recreating the TOC. The new TOC's settings are wrong, so I need to
 retrieve the file from source control.

FM recreates the TOC every time you update the book. Can you provide more 
information about this particular update, like the text of the error message 
and just what settings were wrong? 

(And let this be a lesson -- print to PDF and send _that_ to the LaserJet. :-) )

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
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FM10 bug: missing fonts vs. TOC

[Robert Lauriston]

Usually my selected printer is Adobe PDF since the main thing I do
with FrameMaker is generate PDFs. I printed some redrafted pages
today, so I selected a LaserJet. I forgot to change back to Adobe PDF,
and the next time I updated the book, I got an error that FrameMaker
was recreating the TOC. The new TOC's settings are wrong, so I need to
retrieve the file from source control.

Seems to me that FM should prompt before taking such a destructive action.

FM10 bug: missing fonts vs. TOC

[Combs, Richard]

Robert Lauriston wrote:

> Usually my selected printer is Adobe PDF since the main thing I do
> with FrameMaker is generate PDFs. I printed some redrafted pages
> today, so I selected a LaserJet. I forgot to change back to Adobe PDF,
> and the next time I updated the book, I got an error that FrameMaker
> was recreating the TOC. The new TOC's settings are wrong, so I need to
> retrieve the file from source control.

FM recreates the TOC every time you update the book. Can you provide more 
information about this particular update, like the text of the error message 
and just what settings were wrong? 

(And let this be a lesson -- print to PDF and send _that_ to the LaserJet. :-) )

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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Fm9: replace *ALL* missing fonts in book/open files

[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

Does anyone have a Framescript to replace *ALL* missing fonts in a Fm9 book?

Thanks

-- 
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www.scripto.nu
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Re: Fm9: replace *ALL* missing fonts in book/open files [SOLVED]

[Yves Barbion]

Problem solved with another GREAT and inexpensive framescript from Rick
Quatro.

Thanks again Rick!




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RE: Fm9: replace *ALL* missing fonts in book/open files

[Combs, Richard]

Yves Barbion wrote:
 
 Does anyone have a Framescript to replace *ALL* missing fonts in a Fm9
 book?

You can map each missing font to its desired replacement in the 
[UnknownToKnownFontMap] section of maker.ini. Here are some examples: 

AvantGarde, *, *, *=FuturaStd-Medium, *, *, *
Helvetica, *, *, *=Arial, *, *, *
Times, *, *, *=BookAntiqua, *, *, *
Palatino, *, *, *=BookAntiqua, *, *, *

The comments in the file explain the syntax (and the Customizing Framemaker 
book helps, IIRC). I recall that for some fonts, getting the name right 
required some trial and error. But mostly, it's pretty straight-forward.

Also, in the [Fonts] section, you might want to make your standard body text 
the default used to map any other unknown fonts. That might look like this: 

DefaultFamily=BookAntiqua
DefaultAngle=Regular
DefaultVariation=Regular
DefaultWeight=Regular
DefaultSize=10

Then in FM, go to File  Preferences  General and turn of Remember Missing 
Font Names. When you open a file with missing fonts, FM prompts you (as usual), 
but this time it's to permanently replace the missing fonts. Verify that your 
mapping worked and the correct replacements were made before saving the file. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
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[Yves Barbion]

Hi group

Does anyone have a Framescript to replace *ALL* missing fonts in a Fm9 book?

Thanks

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Fm9: replace *ALL* missing fonts in book/open files [SOLVED]

[Yves Barbion]

Problem solved with another GREAT and inexpensive framescript from Rick
Quatro.

Thanks again Rick!




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Fm9: replace *ALL* missing fonts in book/open files

[Combs, Richard]

Yves Barbion wrote:

> Does anyone have a Framescript to replace *ALL* missing fonts in a Fm9
> book?

You can map each missing font to its desired replacement in the 
[UnknownToKnownFontMap] section of maker.ini. Here are some examples: 

AvantGarde, *, *, *=FuturaStd-Medium, *, *, *
Helvetica, *, *, *=Arial, *, *, *
Times, *, *, *=BookAntiqua, *, *, *
Palatino, *, *, *=BookAntiqua, *, *, *

The comments in the file explain the syntax (and the Customizing Framemaker 
book helps, IIRC). I recall that for some fonts, getting the name right 
required some trial and error. But mostly, it's pretty straight-forward.

Also, in the [Fonts] section, you might want to make your standard body text 
the default used to map any other unknown fonts. That might look like this: 

DefaultFamily=BookAntiqua
DefaultAngle=Regular
DefaultVariation=Regular
DefaultWeight=Regular
DefaultSize=10

Then in FM, go to File > Preferences > General and turn of Remember Missing 
Font Names. When you open a file with missing fonts, FM prompts you (as usual), 
but this time it's to permanently replace the missing fonts. Verify that your 
mapping worked and the correct replacements were made before saving the file. 

HTH!

Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-903-6372
--

Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Pinkham, Jim]

Problem: Every time I open a file with old font issues in FM 9, Frame
dutifully offers to reformat with available fonts. I'd like, as a
general rule, for Frame to just do it and stop  asking me a few dozen
times a day.
 
With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
under Preferences and get the desired result.
 
With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.
 
Thanks,
Jim
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RE: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Jeff Coatsworth]

File  Preferences  General - Remember Missing Font Names 

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:48 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

Problem: Every time I open a file with old font issues in FM 9, Frame
dutifully offers to reformat with available fonts. I'd like, as a
general rule, for Frame to just do it and stop  asking me a few dozen
times a day.
 
With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
under Preferences and get the desired result.
 
With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.
 
Thanks,
Jim
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RE: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Pinkham, Jim]

Thanks, Stuart and all, for the speedy reply! :) 

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:56 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com; Pinkham, Jim
Subject: Re: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

On 18/01/2011 2:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
...

 With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names 
 under Preferences and get the desired result.

 With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a 
 way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.



It's at the bottom of File  Preferences, General.

Best,

--
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Huntley Eshenroder]

Remember Missing Font Names is still there. File  Preferences 
General. I've used it a few times myself :-)

-Huntley



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim jim.pink...@voith.com wrote:
 Problem: Every time I open a file with old font issues in FM 9, Frame
 dutifully offers to reformat with available fonts. I'd like, as a
 general rule, for Frame to just do it and stop  asking me a few dozen
 times a day.

 With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
 under Preferences and get the desired result.

 With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
 way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.

 Thanks,
 Jim
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Re: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Stuart Rogers]

On 18/01/2011 2:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
...


With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
under Preferences and get the desired result.

With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.




It's at the bottom of File  Preferences, General.

Best,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Pinkham, Jim]

Problem: Every time I open a file with "old" font issues in FM 9, Frame
dutifully offers to reformat with available fonts. I'd like, as a
general rule, for Frame to "just do it" and stop  asking me a few dozen
times a day.

With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
under Preferences and get the desired result.

With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.

Thanks,
Jim

Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Jeff Coatsworth]

File > Preferences > General - Remember Missing Font Names 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Pinkham, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 2:48 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

Problem: Every time I open a file with "old" font issues in FM 9, Frame
dutifully offers to reformat with available fonts. I'd like, as a
general rule, for Frame to "just do it" and stop  asking me a few dozen
times a day.

With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
under Preferences and get the desired result.

With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.

Thanks,
Jim
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Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Pinkham, Jim]

Thanks, Stuart and all, for the speedy reply! :) 

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Rogers [mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 1:56 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com; Pinkham, Jim
Subject: Re: Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

On 18/01/2011 2:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
...
>
> With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names 
> under Preferences and get the desired result.
>
> With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a 
> way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.
>


It's at the bottom of File > Preferences, General.

Best,

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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Huntley Eshenroder]

Remember Missing Font Names is still there. File > Preferences >
General. I've used it a few times myself :-)

-Huntley



On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim  wrote:
> Problem: Every time I open a file with "old" font issues in FM 9, Frame
> dutifully offers to reformat with available fonts. I'd like, as a
> general rule, for Frame to "just do it" and stop ?asking me a few dozen
> times a day.
>
> With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
> under Preferences and get the desired result.
>
> With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
> way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.
>
> Thanks,
> Jim
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Missing Fonts and FM 9 Remembrance

[Stuart Rogers]

On 18/01/2011 2:47 PM, Pinkham, Jim wrote:
...
>
> With FM 7, IIRC, you could turn off the Remember Missing Font Names
> under Preferences and get the desired result.
>
> With FM 9, I don't see that option under File-Preferences. Is there a
> way to solve my problem with FM 9? If so, please advise.
>


It's at the bottom of File > Preferences, General.

Best,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

Win XP SP3
FM 7.0 p579
TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in 
either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no 
changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far, the 
missing fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts, e.g., can't 
find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi Bold.  Same 
thing for the italic variants, etc.


I searched my hard drive for Lucida and find dozens of copies of these 
font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and 
\Hewlett-Packard.  (But XP's Search and Void Software's Everything 
search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that exist in 
C:\Windows\Fonts.)


I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing 
fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and 
why.  Anyone know?


Thanks,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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Re: TCS install; missing fonts

[David Spreadbury]

Stuart,
I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was modified to 
recognize these missing fonts. If you still have the old installation on your 
system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of the maker.ini file. 
Copy the section and paste it into your current version. Oh ya, always make a 
copy of your existing maker.ini before changing it.

HTH

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From: Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
Subject: TCS install; missing fonts
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:28 AM


Win XP SP3
FM 7.0 p579
TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in either FM 9 
or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no changes to my system's 
fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far, the missing fonts are simply 
variant names of existing fonts, e.g., can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, 
using Lucida Bright Demi Bold.  Same thing for the italic variants, etc.

I searched my hard drive for Lucida and find dozens of copies of these font 
files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and \Hewlett-Packard.  
(But XP's Search and Void Software's Everything search engine *don't* find 
the dozen or so entries that exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)

I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing fonts' 
messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and why.  Anyone know?

Thanks,

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
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Re: TCS install; missing fonts

[Art Campbell]

If you're not using the Adobe PDF printer as your system default and you are
using another physical printer, it's possible for the OS to latch on to
those fonts, although they're not installed ont he system... which would
explain why you can't find the files.

Best solution is to specify the Adobe PDF printer as your default. You can
do it at the system level or with a SetPrint script from
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

If you're already doing that, though, I'd bet on David's supposition

***
Another thing you want to be aware of, although I don't think it's an issue
in this is that you're going to have to check and see if your existing fonts
offer Unicode support; FM 7 didn't support Unicode, but FM 9 does. Trying to
roll old non-unicode font files forward may be problematic



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On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Rogers 
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote:

 Win XP SP3
 FM 7.0 p579
 TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

 I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in either
 FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no changes to my
 system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far, the missing fonts
 are simply variant names of existing fonts, e.g., can't find Lucida Bright
 Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi Bold.  Same thing for the italic
 variants, etc.

 I searched my hard drive for Lucida and find dozens of copies of these
 font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and
 \Hewlett-Packard.  (But XP's Search and Void Software's Everything search
 engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)

 I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing
 fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and why.
  Anyone know?

 Thanks,

 --
 Stuart Rogers
 Technical Communicator
 Phoenix Geophysics Limited
 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
 Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

On 22/04/2010 12:53 PM, David Spreadbury wrote:


Stuart,
I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was
modified to recognize these missing fonts. If you still have the old
installation on your system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases]
section of the maker.ini file. Copy the section and paste it into your
current version. Oh ya, always make a copy of your existing maker.ini
before changing it.
HTH


Nope.  My FM 7 maker.ini was last modified back in October 2009.  After 
distilling and printing one of my books, I find that it's not just a 
name change from semi to demi bold -- the font itself is different from 
what's in the previous printout of that book (and it's ugly).


Looks like I'll have to choose a new font, because it appears that the 
TCS installation has overwritten my font files.  Thanks, Adobe.


sr



--- On *Thu, 4/22/10, Stuart Rogers /srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com/*
wrote:


From: Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
Subject: TCS install; missing fonts
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:28 AM

Win XP SP3
FM 7.0 p579
TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in
either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages. I have made no
changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so. So far,
the missing fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts,
e.g., can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi
Bold. Same thing for the italic variants, etc.

I searched my hard drive for Lucida and find dozens of copies of
these font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java,
and \Hewlett-Packard. (But XP's Search and Void Software's
Everything search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that
exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)

I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the
'missing fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened
here and why. Anyone know?

Thanks,

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325




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Re: TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

On 22/04/2010 1:13 PM, Art Campbell wrote:

If you're not using the Adobe PDF printer as your system default and you
are using another physical printer, it's possible for the OS to latch on
to those fonts, although they're not installed ont he system... which
would explain why you can't find the files.

Best solution is to specify the Adobe PDF printer as your default. You
can do it at the system level or with a SetPrint script from
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

If you're already doing that, though, I'd bet on David's supposition

***
Another thing you want to be aware of, although I don't think it's an
issue in this is that you're going to have to check and see if your
existing fonts offer Unicode support; FM 7 didn't support Unicode, but
FM 9 does. Trying to roll old non-unicode font files forward may be
problematic



Hi Art,
I installed Setprint immediately after installing TCS 2, and always have 
Adobe PDF as my default in FM.  Your point about Unicode is valid; I 
don't think my old Lucida was a Unicode font.  Now that TCS has 
obliterated it, I will have to choose a different font anyway, since the 
'new' Lucida is badly kerned and ugly.  Very rude of Adobe to trample my 
system like that, though.


Thanks to you and David for your input.

Stuart




On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Rogers
srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com mailto:srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com
wrote:

Win XP SP3
FM 7.0 p579
TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in
either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no
changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far,
the missing fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts,
e.g., can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi
Bold.  Same thing for the italic variants, etc.

I searched my hard drive for Lucida and find dozens of copies of
these font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java,
and \Hewlett-Packard.  (But XP's Search and Void Software's
Everything search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that
exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)

I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the
'missing fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened
here and why.  Anyone know?

Thanks,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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Re: TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

On 22/04/2010 12:53 PM, David Spreadbury wrote:


Stuart,
I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was
modified to recognize these missing fonts. If you still have the old
installation on your system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases]
section of the maker.ini file. Copy the section and paste it into your
current version. Oh ya, always make a copy of your existing maker.ini
before changing it.
HTH



Hi David,

On second reading, I realize I misunderstood; you were not suggesting 
that TCS somehow modified my 7.0 maker.ini but that I (or some other 
software) in the past had modified it.  But it's still nope -- the 
font name does not appear anywhere in the maker.ini file.  I believe the 
TCS installation process overwrote the existing Lucida font files 
everywhere it could find them.


Thanks again,

--
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

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TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

Win XP SP3
FM 7.0 p579
TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in 
either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no 
changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far, the 
"missing" fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts, e.g., "can't 
find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi Bold".  Same 
thing for the italic variants, etc.

I searched my hard drive for "Lucida" and find dozens of copies of these 
font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and 
\Hewlett-Packard.  (But XP's Search and Void Software's "Everything" 
search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that exist in 
C:\Windows\Fonts.)

I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing 
fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and 
why.  Anyone know?

Thanks,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

TCS install; missing fonts

[David Spreadbury]

Stuart,
I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was modified to 
recognize these "missing fonts". If you still have the old installation on your 
system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases] section of the maker.ini file. 
Copy the section and paste it into your current version. Oh ya, always make a 
copy of your existing maker.ini before changing it.

HTH

--- On Thu, 4/22/10, Stuart Rogers  wrote:


From: Stuart Rogers <srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com>
Subject: TCS install; missing fonts
To: "'framers at lists.frameusers.com'" 
Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:28 AM


Win XP SP3
FM 7.0 p579
TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)

I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in either FM 9 
or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.? I have made no changes to my system's 
fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.? So far, the "missing" fonts are simply 
variant names of existing fonts, e.g., "can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, 
using Lucida Bright Demi Bold".? Same thing for the italic variants, etc.

I searched my hard drive for "Lucida" and find dozens of copies of these font 
files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and \Hewlett-Packard.? 
(But XP's Search and Void Software's "Everything" search engine *don't* find 
the dozen or so entries that exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)

I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing fonts' 
messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and why.? Anyone know?

Thanks,

-- Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada? M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

TCS install; missing fonts

[Art Campbell]

If you're not using the Adobe PDF printer as your system default and you are
using another physical printer, it's possible for the OS to latch on to
those fonts, although they're not installed ont he system... which would
explain why you can't find the files.

Best solution is to specify the Adobe PDF printer as your default. You can
do it at the system level or with a SetPrint script from
http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm

If you're already doing that, though, I'd bet on David's supposition

***
Another thing you want to be aware of, although I don't think it's an issue
in this is that you're going to have to check and see if your existing fonts
offer Unicode support; FM 7 didn't support Unicode, but FM 9 does. Trying to
roll old non-unicode font files forward may be problematic



Art Campbell
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redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
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  DoD 358


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Rogers <
srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com> wrote:

> Win XP SP3
> FM 7.0 p579
> TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)
>
> I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in either
> FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no changes to my
> system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far, the "missing" fonts
> are simply variant names of existing fonts, e.g., "can't find Lucida Bright
> Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi Bold".  Same thing for the italic
> variants, etc.
>
> I searched my hard drive for "Lucida" and find dozens of copies of these
> font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java, and
> \Hewlett-Packard.  (But XP's Search and Void Software's "Everything" search
> engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)
>
> I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the 'missing
> fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened here and why.
>  Anyone know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
> http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com
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TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

On 22/04/2010 12:53 PM, David Spreadbury wrote:
>
> Stuart,
> I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was
> modified to recognize these "missing fonts". If you still have the old
> installation on your system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases]
> section of the maker.ini file. Copy the section and paste it into your
> current version. Oh ya, always make a copy of your existing maker.ini
> before changing it.
> HTH

Nope.  My FM 7 maker.ini was last modified back in October 2009.  After 
distilling and printing one of my books, I find that it's not just a 
name change from semi to demi bold -- the font itself is different from 
what's in the previous printout of that book (and it's ugly).

Looks like I'll have to choose a new font, because it appears that the 
TCS installation has overwritten my font files.  Thanks, Adobe.

sr

>
> --- On *Thu, 4/22/10, Stuart Rogers //*
> wrote:
>
>
> From: Stuart Rogers 
> Subject: TCS install; missing fonts
> To: "'framers at lists.frameusers.com'" 
> Date: Thursday, April 22, 2010, 11:28 AM
>
> Win XP SP3
> FM 7.0 p579
> TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)
>
> I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in
> either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages. I have made no
> changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so. So far,
> the "missing" fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts,
> e.g., "can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi
> Bold". Same thing for the italic variants, etc.
>
> I searched my hard drive for "Lucida" and find dozens of copies of
> these font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java,
> and \Hewlett-Packard. (But XP's Search and Void Software's
> "Everything" search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that
> exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)
>
> I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the
> 'missing fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened
> here and why. Anyone know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>


-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
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TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

On 22/04/2010 1:13 PM, Art Campbell wrote:
> If you're not using the Adobe PDF printer as your system default and you
> are using another physical printer, it's possible for the OS to latch on
> to those fonts, although they're not installed ont he system... which
> would explain why you can't find the files.
>
> Best solution is to specify the Adobe PDF printer as your default. You
> can do it at the system level or with a SetPrint script from
> http://www.sundorne.com/FrameMaker/Freeware/setPrint.htm
>
> If you're already doing that, though, I'd bet on David's supposition
>
> ***
> Another thing you want to be aware of, although I don't think it's an
> issue in this is that you're going to have to check and see if your
> existing fonts offer Unicode support; FM 7 didn't support Unicode, but
> FM 9 does. Trying to roll old non-unicode font files forward may be
> problematic
>

Hi Art,
I installed Setprint immediately after installing TCS 2, and always have 
Adobe PDF as my default in FM.  Your point about Unicode is valid; I 
don't think my old Lucida was a Unicode font.  Now that TCS has 
obliterated it, I will have to choose a different font anyway, since the 
'new' Lucida is badly kerned and ugly.  Very rude of Adobe to trample my 
system like that, though.

Thanks to you and David for your input.

Stuart

>
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Stuart Rogers
> mailto:srogers at phoenix-geophysics.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Win XP SP3
> FM 7.0 p579
> TCS 2.0 (FM 9.0 p250)
>
> I recently installed TCS and now when I open existing .fm files in
> either FM 9 or FM 7, I get missing fonts messages.  I have made no
> changes to my system's fonts, so I assume TCS has done so.  So far,
> the "missing" fonts are simply variant names of existing fonts,
> e.g., "can't find Lucida Bright Semi Bold, using Lucida Bright Demi
> Bold".  Same thing for the italic variants, etc.
>
> I searched my hard drive for "Lucida" and find dozens of copies of
> these font files in Program Files subfolders called \Adobe, \Java,
> and \Hewlett-Packard.  (But XP's Search and Void Software's
> "Everything" search engine *don't* find the dozen or so entries that
> exist in C:\Windows\Fonts.)
>
> I've assumed I'm safe to use the usual method to get rid of the
> 'missing fonts' messages, but I'd like to know what exactly happened
> here and why.  Anyone know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Stuart Rogers
> Technical Communicator
> Phoenix Geophysics Limited
> 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
> Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
> +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325
>
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TCS install; missing fonts

[Stuart Rogers]

On 22/04/2010 12:53 PM, David Spreadbury wrote:
>
> Stuart,
> I would wager that your maker.ini, of your previous install, was
> modified to recognize these "missing fonts". If you still have the old
> installation on your system check the [WindowsToFrameFontAliases]
> section of the maker.ini file. Copy the section and paste it into your
> current version. Oh ya, always make a copy of your existing maker.ini
> before changing it.
> HTH


Hi David,

On second reading, I realize I misunderstood; you were not suggesting 
that TCS somehow modified my 7.0 maker.ini but that I (or some other 
software) in the past had modified it.  But it's still "nope" -- the 
font name does not appear anywhere in the maker.ini file.  I believe the 
TCS installation process overwrote the existing Lucida font files 
everywhere it could find them.

Thanks again,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3
Toronto, ON, Canada  M1W 3K5
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com

Missing Fonts

[Howard Rauch]

Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
am using another person's computer, but working on my own  computer through 
remote access. I need to distill a book to PDF, but the computer I am using 
does not have all the fonts. Remember Missing Font Names is turned on. If I 
distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset printer, will 
the correct fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off waiting 
until I can distil the book on my own computer?

Howard Rauch
 
Technology Transfer, Inc.
Linking Creators and Users of Technology
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
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Re: Missing Fonts

[Art Campbell]

You should distill on your home computer.

You're confusing, or merging the actions of two different programs.
Frame will remember the missing fonts on any computer just fine, but
it substitutes for those fonts if they're missing.

But when you generate a PDF, you use Acrobat and embed the fonts that
are actually used in the document. As far as Acrobat is concerned, the
fonts it sees are the ones it users. So if you're on a system without
the correct fonts... it will use the fonts that Frame substituted. And
embed those.

Art

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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Howard Rauch
techtrans...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
 am using another person's computer, but working on my own  computer through 
 remote access. I need to distill a book to PDF, but the computer I am using 
 does not have all the fonts. Remember Missing Font Names is turned on. If I 
 distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset printer, 
 will the correct fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off 
 waiting until I can distil the book on my own computer?

 Howard Rauch

 Technology Transfer, Inc.
 Linking Creators and Users of Technology
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RE: Missing Fonts

[Fred Ridder]

Howard Rauch asked:

 Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
 am using another person's computer, but working on my own  computer through 
 remote access. I need to distill a book to PDF, but the computer I am using 
 does not have all the fonts. Remember Missing Font Names is turned on. If I 
 distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset printer, 
 will the correct fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off 
 waiting until I can distil the book on my own computer?


FrameMaker's remember missing font names feature allows you to work on the 
*content* of a document, but you can only properly finish and publish the 
document on a system that has all the specified fonts installed on it. When you 
are working in missing fonts mode, FrameMaker does not have access to the 
font metrics (the glyph dimensions) for the proper font, so it can only use the 
metrics for the substitution font, which will allways be slightly different. 
And when you remember that a small difference in the font metrics can make any 
given line break one word earlier or later, and that a line break change can 
affect the length of the paragraph, and a change in the length of a paragraph 
can affect where the page breaks, and changes in page breaks can add up to push 
large objects like figures to different pages and even throw off what page the 
following chapter starts on. The final pagination and generated file update and 
the generation of the PS/PDF *must* be performed on a
  system that has the proper fonts installed. If you make a PostScript file on 
the missing fonts system, the PostScript and any PDF that is distilled from 
it will only contain the substitution font and will not match a PDF of the book 
that is created on the properly configured system.

-Fred Ridder

 

 
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[Howard Rauch]

Thanks for your comments. They werevery helpful

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RE: Missing Fonts

[Dov Isaacs]

In terms of safety and reliability, create the PDF only on the system that has 
all
the fonts. Otherwise you cannot count on the fonts mysteriously appearing when 
you
are making plates for the offset press (or printing on any printer for that 
matter!).

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: Howard Rauch
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:07 AM
 
 Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
 am using another
 person's computer, but working on my own  computer through remote access. I 
 need to distill a book to
 PDF, but the computer I am using does not have all the fonts. Remember 
 Missing Font Names is turned
 on. If I distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset 
 printer, will the correct
 fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off waiting until I 
 can distil the book on my
 own computer?
 
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Missing Fonts

[Howard Rauch]

Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
am using another person's computer, but?working on?my own? computer through 
remote access. I need to distill a book to PDF, but the computer I am using 
does not have all the fonts. "Remember Missing Font Names" is turned on. If I 
distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset printer, will 
the correct fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off waiting 
until I can distil the book on my own?computer?

Howard Rauch
?
Technology Transfer, Inc.
"Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-0080

Missing Fonts

[Art Campbell]

You should distill on your home computer.

You're confusing, or merging the actions of two different programs.
Frame will remember the missing fonts on any computer just fine, but
it substitutes for those fonts if they're missing.

But when you generate a PDF, you use Acrobat and embed the fonts that
are actually used in the document. As far as Acrobat is concerned, the
fonts it sees are the ones it users. So if you're on a system without
the correct fonts... it will use the fonts that Frame substituted. And
embed those.

Art

Art Campbell
   art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Howard Rauch
 wrote:
> Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
> am using another person's computer, but?working on?my own? computer through 
> remote access. I need to distill a book to PDF, but the computer I am using 
> does not have all the fonts. "Remember Missing Font Names" is turned on. If I 
> distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset printer, 
> will the correct fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off 
> waiting until I can distil the book on my own?computer?
>
> Howard Rauch
>
> Technology Transfer, Inc.
> "Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
> 933 North 18th Street
> Manitowoc WI 54220
> Office: 920-682-1528
> Cell: 920-629-0080
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Missing Fonts

[Fred Ridder]

Howard Rauch asked:

> Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
> am using another person's computer, but working on my own  computer through 
> remote access. I need to distill a book to PDF, but the computer I am using 
> does not have all the fonts. "Remember Missing Font Names" is turned on. If I 
> distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset printer, 
> will the correct fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off 
> waiting until I can distil the book on my own computer?


FrameMaker's "remember missing font names" feature allows you to work on the 
*content* of a document, but you can only properly finish and publish the 
document on a system that has all the specified fonts installed on it. When you 
are working in "missing fonts" mode, FrameMaker does not have access to the 
font metrics (the glyph dimensions) for the proper font, so it can only use the 
metrics for the substitution font, which will allways be slightly different. 
And when you remember that a small difference in the font metrics can make any 
given line break one word earlier or later, and that a line break change can 
affect the length of the paragraph, and a change in the length of a paragraph 
can affect where the page breaks, and changes in page breaks can add up to push 
large objects like figures to different pages and even throw off what page the 
following chapter starts on. The final pagination and generated file update and 
the generation of the PS/PDF *must* be performed on a system that has the 
proper fonts installed. If you make a PostScript file on the "missing fonts" 
system, the PostScript and any PDF that is distilled from it will only contain 
the substitution font and will not match a PDF of the book that is created on 
the properly configured system.

-Fred Ridder

Missing Fonts

[Howard Rauch]

Thanks for your comments. They werevery helpful

HR
?
Technology Transfer, Inc.
"Linking Creators and Users of Technology"
933 North 18th Street
Manitowoc WI 54220
Office: 920-682-1528
Cell: 920-629-0080

Missing Fonts

[Dov Isaacs]

In terms of safety and reliability, create the PDF only on the system that has 
all
the fonts. Otherwise you cannot count on the fonts mysteriously appearing when 
you
are making plates for the offset press (or printing on any printer for that 
matter!).

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Howard Rauch
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 6:07 AM
> 
> Ths is perhaps an elementary question. I have to finish a project off-site. I 
> am using another
> person's computer, but?working on?my own? computer through remote access. I 
> need to distill a book to
> PDF, but the computer I am using does not have all the fonts. "Remember 
> Missing Font Names" is turned
> on. If I distill the book on this computer and send the file to the offset 
> printer, will the correct
> fonts be included int printed document? Or am I better off waiting until I 
> can distil the book on my
> own?computer?
> 
> Howard Rauch

Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Kanti . Mann]

I never thanked all for their help.  Just recently, I read the article 
from Kevin Siegel's Weekly Skills and Drills about NOT remembering fonts. 
When I opened the docs with that setting, and saved them, and reset the DO 
remember fonts, Frame conveniently forgot all about the missing items. 

Kanti M. Mann | Manager, Technical Publications
SeaChange International, Inc. 
50 Nagog Park, Acton, MA 01720
www.schange.com | kanti.m...@schange.com
978.889.3304
This e-mail and any attachments may contain information which is SeaChange 
International confidential. The information enclosed is intended only for 
the addressees herein and may not be copied or forwarded without 
permission from SeaChange International.




Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com 
08/14/2008 10:46 AM

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Subject
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?






kanti.m...@schange.com wrote:
 Hello: 
 
 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an 
entire 
 group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
 not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
 
 Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is 
there 
 anyway!
 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

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[kanti.m...@schange.com]

I never thanked all for their help.  Just recently, I read the article 
from Kevin Siegel's Weekly Skills and Drills about NOT remembering fonts. 
When I opened the docs with that setting, and saved them, and reset the DO 
remember fonts, Frame conveniently forgot all about the missing items. 

Kanti M. Mann | Manager, Technical Publications
SeaChange International, Inc. 
50 Nagog Park, Acton, MA 01720
www.schange.com | Kanti.Mann at schange.com
978.889.3304
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Stuart Rogers  
08/14/2008 10:46 AM

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cc
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Subject
Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?






Kanti.Mann at schange.com wrote:
> Hello: 
> 
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an 
entire 
> group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
> not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
> 
> Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is 
there 
> anyway!
> 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

PLES RING IF AN RNSER IS REQIRD. PLEZ CNOKE IF AN RNSR IS
NOT REQUID.

--Owl

RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

[Scott Penney]

Had to limit the search to the FrameMaker folder; was searching the entire 
local drive-my mistake!

Thanks

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:09 PM
To: Scott Penney; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.inifile? 
Can't find ini file

Scott Penney wrote:

 Following the Customizing pdf manual and advice I've received on
this
 list, I was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to
change
 the font specs (the manual indicates the path
 UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under
Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also
run
 searches with no results. Any ideas?

Did you see my response from yesterday afternoon? Here is the relevant
portion again:

---
The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. UserProfile is a variable referring to a specific user's
profile data, the location of which depends on the Windows version.

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading Locating customization files. There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version.


Are you saying that a search of your hard drive turns up _zero_
instances of maker.ini? I don't think that's possible with a functioning
FM install.

But I could be wrong. It happened once before. ;-)

Richard


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[Scott Penney]

Had to limit the search to the FrameMaker folder; was searching the entire 
local drive-my mistake!

Thanks

Scott

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From: Combs, Richard [mailto:richard.co...@polycom.com]
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:09 PM
To: Scott Penney; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.inifile? 
Can't find ini file

Scott Penney wrote:

> Following the "Customizing" pdf manual and advice I've received on
this
> list, I was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to
change
> the font specs (the manual indicates the path
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under
Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also
run
> searches with no results. Any ideas?

Did you see my response from yesterday afternoon? Here is the relevant
portion again:

---
The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. "UserProfile" is a variable referring to a specific user's
"profile" data, the location of which depends on the Windows version.

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading "Locating customization files." There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version.


Are you saying that a search of your hard drive turns up _zero_
instances of maker.ini? I don't think that's possible with a functioning
FM install.

But I could be wrong. It happened once before. ;-)

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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RE: missing fonts after changing computers; customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

[O'Laoghaire Micheal]

Unfortunately, you should not believe Windows Explorer search when it
tells you it cannot find a particular file. I've had it tell me File
Not found when I am looking at the file in question right in the folder
where the search begins!

Regards,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
CBS Documentation
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.

Tel: (617) 273-5414
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To: Scott Penney; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize
maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

Scott Penney wrote:

 Following the Customizing pdf manual and advice I've received on
this
 list, I was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to
change
 the font specs (the manual indicates the path
 UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under
Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also
run
 searches with no results. Any ideas?

Did you see my response from yesterday afternoon? Here is the relevant
portion again: 

---
The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. UserProfile is a variable referring to a specific user's
profile data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading Locating customization files. There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version.


Are you saying that a search of your hard drive turns up _zero_
instances of maker.ini? I don't think that's possible with a functioning
FM install. 

But I could be wrong. It happened once before. ;-)

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
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FW: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file? Can't find ini file

[Scott Penney]

Following the Customizing pdf manual and advice I've received on this list, I 
was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to change the font 
specs (the manual indicates the path 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also run 
searches with no results. Any ideas?

Thanks

Scott Penney
Technical Writer/Editor
Concepts NREC
217 Billings Farm Road
White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
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Subject: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
that it used on the old machine?

I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), and 
I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, and 
Times by Times Roman.

So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
PSFONTS folder.

However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message followed 
by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts followed by 
the fonts that replace them.

Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
unreliable.

I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the maker.ini 
files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the corresponding folders 
on my machine (the manual indicates 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

Thanks


Scott Penney
Technical Writer/Editor
Concepts NREC
217 Billings Farm Road
White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
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RE: missing fonts after changing computers; customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

[Combs, Richard]

Scott Penney wrote:

 Following the Customizing pdf manual and advice I've received on
this
 list, I was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to
change
 the font specs (the manual indicates the path
 UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under
Program
 Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also
run
 searches with no results. Any ideas?

Did you see my response from yesterday afternoon? Here is the relevant
portion again: 

---
The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. UserProfile is a variable referring to a specific user's
profile data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading Locating customization files. There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version.


Are you saying that a search of your hard drive turns up _zero_
instances of maker.ini? I don't think that's possible with a functioning
FM install. 

But I could be wrong. It happened once before. ;-)

Richard


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Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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missing fonts after changing computers; customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

[Combs, Richard]

Scott Penney wrote:

> Following the "Customizing" pdf manual and advice I've received on
this
> list, I was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to
change
> the font specs (the manual indicates the path
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under
Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also
run
> searches with no results. Any ideas?

Did you see my response from yesterday afternoon? Here is the relevant
portion again: 

---
The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. "UserProfile" is a variable referring to a specific user's
"profile" data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading "Locating customization files." There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version.


Are you saying that a search of your hard drive turns up _zero_
instances of maker.ini? I don't think that's possible with a functioning
FM install. 

But I could be wrong. It happened once before. ;-)

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

missing fonts after changing computers; customize maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

[O'Laoghaire Micheal]

Unfortunately, you should not believe Windows Explorer search when it
tells you it cannot find a particular file. I've had it tell me "File
Not found" when I am looking at the file in question right in the folder
where the search begins!

Regards,
Micheal O'Laoghaire
CBS Documentation
Comverse Inc.
Cambridge, MA.

Tel: (617) 273-5414
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs,
Richard
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 4:09 PM
To: Scott Penney; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize
maker.inifile? Can't find ini file

Scott Penney wrote:

> Following the "Customizing" pdf manual and advice I've received on
this
> list, I was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to
change
> the font specs (the manual indicates the path
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under
Program
> Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also
run
> searches with no results. Any ideas?

Did you see my response from yesterday afternoon? Here is the relevant
portion again: 

---
The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. "UserProfile" is a variable referring to a specific user's
"profile" data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading "Locating customization files." There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version.


Are you saying that a search of your hard drive turns up _zero_
instances of maker.ini? I don't think that's possible with a functioning
FM install. 

But I could be wrong. It happened once before. ;-)

Richard


Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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FW: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file? Can't find ini file

[Scott Penney]

Following the "Customizing" pdf manual and advice I've received on this list, I 
was attempting to locate the maker.ini file (for FM 7.1) to change the font 
specs (the manual indicates the path 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0). Looking under Program 
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.1, no maker.ini file is evident. I've also run 
searches with no results. Any ideas?

Thanks

Scott Penney
Technical Writer/Editor
Concepts NREC
217 Billings Farm Road
White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
Fax:  802-296-2325
mailto:spe at conceptsnrec.com

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Scott Penney
Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 11:33 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
that it used on the old machine?

I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), and 
I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, and 
Times by Times Roman.

So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
PSFONTS folder.

However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message followed 
by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts followed by 
the fonts that replace them.

Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
unreliable.

I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the maker.ini 
files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the corresponding folders 
on my machine (the manual indicates 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

Thanks


Scott Penney
Technical Writer/Editor
Concepts NREC
217 Billings Farm Road
White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
Fax:  802-296-2325
mailto:spe at conceptsnrec.com
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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Scott Penney]

I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
that it used on the old machine?

I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), and 
I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, and 
Times by Times Roman.

So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
PSFONTS folder.

However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message followed 
by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts followed by 
the fonts that replace them.

Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
unreliable.

I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the maker.ini 
files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the corresponding folders 
on my machine (the manual indicates 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

Thanks


Scott Penney
Technical Writer/Editor
Concepts NREC
217 Billings Farm Road
White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
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RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Scott Penney wrote: 

 I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially
important
 for bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it
uses the
 fonts that it used on the old machine?

Wrong verb. Not reset -- install. And note that connecting to a
PostScript printer gives you access to the standard PostScript fonts
when printing to that printer, but they're not installed on your PC and
can't be used in PDFs.
 
 I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service
Pack 3),
 and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica
for
 some paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other
 symbols. Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman,
Helvetica
 by Arial, and Times by Times Roman.
 
 So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe
 Website. Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM
window
 in the PSFONTS folder.

Sorry to hear that. IIRC, ATM Lite is not compatible with Win XP, only
ATM Deluxe (not free) is. It's been several years now, but I recall that
installing ATM Lite on XP caused problems, and that removing it required
a special utility from Adobe (Add/Remove Programs couldn't undo the
damage). You'll need to search the Adobe Knowledgebase for the details. 
 
 However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message
 followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable
fonts
 followed by the fonts that replace them.
 
 Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the
Paragraph
 Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

 Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to
recall
 changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection
may be
 unreliable.

No, you remember right. In the [Fonts] section of the file, you can
change the default substitute for missing fonts as well as map specific
missing fonts to the replacements you want to use. It's not for the
faint of heart and may require some experimentation to get right. Then,
if you turn of Remember Missing Font Names, the substitutions will
become permanent. 

Of course, this assumes that you really do want to permanently replace
the font. That might be true for replacing Times with Times New Roman,
but you can't just replace one symbol font, like Zapf Dingbats, with
another -- an f is an f, but in symbol fonts, the characters don't
correspond. 
 
 I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the
 maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the
 corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates
 UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. UserProfile is a variable referring to a specific user's
profile data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading Locating customization files. There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version. 

Richard


Richard G. Combs
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Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
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Re: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Art Campbell]

The easiest way to fix things up would be to either network to your
old PC or pull the C drive from it and install it as an additional (a
slave, not the master) drive in your new machine.

Then perform whatever font installs you need to do to get all the
fonts from the old machine installed properly.

This would also be the easy way to snarf your old maker.ini file and
any other plug ins and odd bits that you may have forgotten.

***
You don't mention setting the Adobe PDF logical printer as your system
default, which is a good thing to do. It eliminates seeing references
to fonts that may be resident on a physical pritner but which aren't
actually installed on your system.

***
I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it isn't
required. But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
font files.

Art





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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Scott Penney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
 bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
 that it used on the old machine?

 I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), 
 and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
 paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
 Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, 
 and Times by Times Roman.

 So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
 Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
 PSFONTS folder.

 However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message 
 followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts 
 followed by the fonts that replace them.

 Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
 Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

 Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
 changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
 unreliable.

 I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the 
 maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the 
 corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates 
 UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

 Thanks


 Scott Penney
 Technical Writer/Editor
 Concepts NREC
 217 Billings Farm Road
 White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
 Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
802-280-6130 (direct)
 Fax:  802-296-2325
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Art Campbell wrote: 

 I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
 Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
 choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it isn't
 required. But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
 work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
 font files.

I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare. 

Maybe I'm not just forgetting things these days, I'm also remembering
things that never happened. :-} 

(Someone gave me a t-shirt for my birthday a couple of years ago that
says, I remember back in the day... oh, well... I guess I don't.

Richard 


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[Scott Penney]

I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
that it used on the old machine?

I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), and 
I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, and 
Times by Times Roman.

So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
PSFONTS folder.

However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message followed 
by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts followed by 
the fonts that replace them.

Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.

Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
unreliable.

I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the maker.ini 
files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the corresponding folders 
on my machine (the manual indicates 
UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

Thanks


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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Scott Penney wrote: 

> I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially
important
> for bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it
uses the
> fonts that it used on the old machine?

Wrong verb. Not "reset" -- "install." And note that connecting to a
PostScript printer gives you access to the standard PostScript fonts
when printing to that printer, but they're not installed on your PC and
can't be used in PDFs.

> I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service
Pack 3),
> and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica
for
> some paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other
> symbols. Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman,
Helvetica
> by Arial, and Times by Times Roman.
> 
> So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe
> Website. Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM
window
> in the PSFONTS folder.

Sorry to hear that. IIRC, ATM Lite is not compatible with Win XP, only
ATM Deluxe (not free) is. It's been several years now, but I recall that
installing ATM Lite on XP caused problems, and that removing it required
a special utility from Adobe (Add/Remove Programs couldn't undo the
damage). You'll need to search the Adobe Knowledgebase for the details. 

> However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message
> followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable
fonts
> followed by the fonts that replace them.
> 
> Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the
Paragraph
> Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.
>
> Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to
recall
> changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection
may be
> unreliable.

No, you remember right. In the [Fonts] section of the file, you can
change the default substitute for missing fonts as well as map specific
missing fonts to the replacements you want to use. It's not for the
faint of heart and may require some experimentation to get right. Then,
if you turn of Remember Missing Font Names, the substitutions will
become permanent. 

Of course, this assumes that you really do want to permanently replace
the font. That might be true for replacing Times with Times New Roman,
but you can't just replace one symbol font, like Zapf Dingbats, with
another -- an "f" is an "f," but in symbol fonts, the characters don't
correspond. 

> I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the
> maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the
> corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).

The main maker.ini is right where it's always been -- the FM
installation folder -- and that's the one you probably want to make font
mapping changes in. There's another one for your personal settings, but
it's mainly for things like window sizes and positions, recent files,
etc. "UserProfile" is a variable referring to a specific user's
"profile" data, the location of which depends on the Windows version. 

This is all explained on page 1 of the Customizing manual under the
heading "Locating customization files." There's a table there that shows
you where UserProfile is for each Windows version. 

Richard


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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Art Campbell]

The easiest way to fix things up would be to either network to your
old PC or pull the C drive from it and install it as an additional (a
slave, not the master) drive in your new machine.

Then perform whatever font installs you need to do to get all the
fonts from the old machine installed properly.

This would also be the easy way to snarf your old maker.ini file and
any other plug ins and odd bits that you may have forgotten.

***
You don't mention setting the Adobe PDF logical printer as your system
default, which is a good thing to do. It eliminates seeing references
to fonts that may be resident on a physical pritner but which aren't
actually installed on your system.

***
I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it "isn't
required." But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
font files.

Art





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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Scott Penney  wrote:
> I need to reset my fonts for a new computer; this is especially important for 
> bullets and some symbols. How can I configure Frame so that it uses the fonts 
> that it used on the old machine?
>
> I'm using FM 7.1 on Windows XP Professional (Version 2002, Service Pack 3), 
> and I need to restore my font settings so that FM can use Helvetica for some 
> paragraph formats and ZapfDingbats for square bullets and other symbols. 
> Currently ZapfDingbats is replaced by Times New Roman, Helvetica by Arial, 
> and Times by Times Roman.
>
> So far, I have downloaded the free Adobe Type Manager from the Abobe Website. 
> Both Helvetica, Times, and Zapf Dingbats appear in the ATM window in the 
> PSFONTS folder.
>
> However, when I open a Frame document, I get the missing fonts message 
> followed by the Framemaker Console List with the list of unavailable fonts 
> followed by the fonts that replace them.
>
> Furthermore, in the Family drop-down list, Default tab of the Paragraph 
> Designer dialog box, the missing fonts appear in grey.
>
> Some years ago, when I was using FM 6 on Windows 2000, I seem to recall 
> changing the font settings in the maker.ini file; that recollection may be 
> unreliable.
>
> I tried to follow the Customizing FrameMaker manual for locating the 
> maker.ini files and changing font profiles, but couldn't find the 
> corresponding folders on my machine (the manual indicates 
> UserProfile\ApplicationData\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.0).
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Scott Penney
> Technical Writer/Editor
> Concepts NREC
> 217 Billings Farm Road
> White River Jct., VT 05001-9486
> Tel:  802-296-2321 Ext. 130
>802-280-6130 (direct)
> Fax:  802-296-2325
> mailto:spe at conceptsnrec.com
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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Combs, Richard]

Art Campbell wrote: 

> I agree almost all of Richard's post, except his antipathy to ATM
> Lite. It works fine on XP systems, and it still my PS font manager of
> choice, although both Adobe and Microsoft agree that it "isn't
> required." But it works for me, has worked for years, and continues to
> work on multiple systems. It's especially useful to corral older PS
> font files.

I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare. 

Maybe I'm not just forgetting things these days, I'm also remembering
things that never happened. :-} 

(Someone gave me a t-shirt for my birthday a couple of years ago that
says, "I remember back in the day... oh, well... I guess I don't."

Richard 


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missing fonts after changing computers;customize maker.ini file?

[Mike Wickham]

> I could have sworn the warning about that -- complete with link to KB
> article that I remember reading -- appeared a few years ago on this
> list. But now I can't find it, either in my FrameUsers archive or in the
> Adobe KB. Sorry for the scare.

Richard, you did remember right that there was a bug caused by uninstalling 
ATM Lite, and Adobe had a downloadable patch to repair Windows (or the PS 
driver?) after doing so.

Mike Wickham 

RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Combs, Richard]

Charlie Kyle wrote

 
A couple weeks ago I
 opened some FM docs for updating and received the Missing fonts
 message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference
from
 Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of
 the missing fonts. When FM produces the missing fonts message, does
it
 know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them?

The missing fonts are listed in the Console window, along with the font
that FM is substituting (either temporarily or permanently, depending on
your Remember Missing Font Names setting). 

You can add or change font substitutions in the maker.ini file, but it
may take some experimenting (back up maker.ini first!) to get the font
names and syntax right. 

Once you have appropriate substitutions in place, you can turn off
Remember Missing Font Names. From then on, when you open and then save a
file, FM will make the substitutions permanent. 

Richard


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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Combs, Richard]

Charlie Kyle wrote

> 
A couple weeks ago I
> opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts"
> message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference
from
> Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of
> the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does
it
> know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them?

The missing fonts are listed in the Console window, along with the font
that FM is substituting (either temporarily or permanently, depending on
your Remember Missing Font Names setting). 

You can add or change font substitutions in the maker.ini file, but it
may take some experimenting (back up maker.ini first!) to get the font
names and syntax right. 

Once you have appropriate substitutions in place, you can turn off
Remember Missing Font Names. From then on, when you open and then save a
file, FM will make the substitutions permanent. 

Richard


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RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Charlie Kyle]

I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because
I certainly haven't ignored font issues. But wayback in the 90s I
realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the
font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist
and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some
straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to
relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I
opened some FM docs for updating and received the Missing fonts
message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from
Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of
the missing fonts. When FM produces the missing fonts message, does it
know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them?

Thanks,
Charlie Kyle

-Original Message-
From: John Sgammato [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. 

You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody
knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font
types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the
subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes
wrong.

john

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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Charlie:

You may have noticed that FM has no Print Preview option. This is
because FM's on-screen view is (nearly) WYIWIG, and has been going
back many versions.

FM does this by looking at the font names listed in the
currently-selected printer's support file(s). You may have noticed
that FM displays a message - Document has changed. Font appearance may
be affected - when you change printers.

So, two simple causes of the missing font message are:

* Not having the fonts installed on the computer or on the hard drive
of the selected printer or in the printers permanent memory.

* Having the fonts in one of these places, but the currently-selected
printer doesn't recognize them.

One more-complex-but-simple cause is opening a file created on FM on a
Macintosh on a Windows computer. (Yes, there's a FM for Mac, but it's
version 7.0, and it only runs on Mac OS before OS X, or Mac's Classic
pre-OS X emulation.) There's nothing wrong with Mac FM files on a PC,
but there some apparently-identical font names differ in their
internal font names between platforms.

For details, look for Multiple_Platforms.pdf in the Documents
subdirectory of FM8's FrameMaker installation directory, or in the
OnlineManuals directory of pre-FM8 releases.

There's a free utility, SetPrint, that selects a specified printer as
the default printer when you launch FM, then restores the
previously-selected printer as default when you quit FM.
www.sundorne.com

HTH

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charlie Kyle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because
 I certainly haven't ignored font issues. But wayback in the 90s I
 realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the
 font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist
 and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some
 straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to
 relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I
 opened some FM docs for updating and received the Missing fonts
 message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from
 Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of
 the missing fonts. When FM produces the missing fonts message, does it
 know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them?

 Thanks,
 Charlie Kyle
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Peter Gold]

Hi, Charlie:

You may have noticed that FM has no Print Preview option. This is
because FM's on-screen view is (nearly) WYIWIG, and has been going
back many versions.

FM does this by looking at the font names listed in the
currently-selected printer's support file(s). You may have noticed
that FM displays a message - Document has changed. Font appearance may
be affected - when you change printers.

So, two simple causes of the missing font message are:

* Not having the fonts installed on the computer or on the hard drive
of the selected printer or in the printers permanent memory.

* Having the fonts in one of these places, but the currently-selected
printer doesn't recognize them.

One more-complex-but-simple cause is opening a file created on FM on a
Macintosh on a Windows computer. (Yes, there's a FM for Mac, but it's
version 7.0, and it only runs on Mac OS before OS X, or Mac's Classic
pre-OS X emulation.) There's nothing wrong with Mac FM files on a PC,
but there some apparently-identical font names differ in their
internal font names between platforms.

For details, look for Multiple_Platforms.pdf in the Documents
subdirectory of FM8's FrameMaker installation directory, or in the
OnlineManuals directory of pre-FM8 releases.

There's a free utility, SetPrint, that selects a specified printer as
the default printer when you launch FM, then restores the
previously-selected printer as default when you quit FM.
www.sundorne.com

HTH

On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 7:11 PM, Charlie Kyle
 wrote:
> I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because
> I certainly haven't "ignored" font issues. But "wayback" in the 90s I
> realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the
> font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist
> and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some
> straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to
> relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I
> opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts"
> message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from
> Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of
> the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does it
> know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them?
>
> Thanks,
> Charlie Kyle

why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Charlie Kyle]

I am also a font simpleton (I hesitate to use the word ignoramus because
I certainly haven't "ignored" font issues. But "wayback" in the 90s I
realized that scaling fonts was a nastier job than scaling fish and the
font wars between Apple and the Softies and Adobe stunk.) I'm a pacifist
and a low intermediate FM 8.0 user and would also appreciate some
straight forward information on fonts and FM. Even some links to
relevant info would be very much appreciated. A couple weeks ago I
opened some FM docs for updating and received the "Missing fonts"
message. I looked in the online help and the FrameMaker 7 reference from
Scriptorium, but I couldn't find a quick way to determine the names of
the missing fonts. When FM produces the "missing fonts" message, does it
know what fonts are missing or does it just know it can't find them?

Thanks,
Charlie Kyle

-Original Message-
From: John Sgammato [mailto:jsgamm...@imprivata.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 1:15 PM
To: ActionA at aol.com; isaacs at adobe.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

>I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. 

You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody
knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font
types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the
subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes
wrong.

john

Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[ActionA]

 
Hi,
 
Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read  
into your statement, it appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are  
being translated in the background into Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there  
anything special I need to do? Or, can I just go on to use Frame and the fonts 
I  have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I always have?
 
Thanks,
Nancy Adams
 
In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that  is
what you mean by PS fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts.  The
character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

You  don't say what type of font errors you are getting (missing  fonts?
mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific  information
including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and  perhaps
a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you  are
experiencing and offer some assistance.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55  PM

 Hello:

 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than  PS fonts as before, but in an entire
 group of 10+ writers, some of us  are getting font errors, and some are
 not, now that we're all using  the ATCS.

 Further, many of the errors are for things like  Helvetica, which is there
 anyway!

 Is there a pointer  to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
 fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
  it in the framers archives.


 Kanti  Mann
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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Stuart Rogers]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello: 
 
 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire 
 group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
 not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
 
 Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there 
 anyway!
 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

-- 
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Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
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RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Dov Isaacs]

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being translated either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1 fonts (please stop using the
term PostScript fonts - it means nothing since by definition, TrueType fonts
are every bit as much PostScript fonts as are Type 1 fonts) directly mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type 1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode. This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well. (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into the
Latin A through Z in a font for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application to effectively deal with.)

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35 AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

 Hi,

 Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read 
 into your statement, it
 appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
 the background into
 Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I 
 just go on to use Frame
 and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I 
 always have?

 Thanks,
 Nancy Adams

 In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] writes:
 FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
 what you mean by PS fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
 character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

 You don't say what type of font errors you are getting (missing fonts?
 mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
 including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
 a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
 experiencing and offer some assistance.

 - Dov

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM
 
  Hello:
 
  I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
  group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are
  not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
 
  Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there
  anyway!
 
  Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
  fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
  it in the framers archives.
 
 
  Kanti Mann
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Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[ActionA]

 
Hi Dov,
 
Thanks for responding. I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of  
fonts. I feel better now that I can safely use the fonts I have with Frame  8.
 
Thanks,
Nancy Adams
 
 
In a message dated 8/14/2008 12:56:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being  translated either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1  fonts (please stop using the
term PostScript fonts - it means nothing  since by definition, TrueType 
fonts
are every bit as much PostScript  fonts as are Type 1 fonts) directly 
mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to  Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType  fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way  you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type  1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode.  This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well.  (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into 
the
Latin A through Z in a font  for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application  to effectively deal with.)

-  Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35  AM
 To: Dov Isaacs; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re:  why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

  Hi,

 Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice?  From what I read 
into your statement, it
 appears that Type 1 fonts  (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
the background into
  Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can 
I  just go on to use Frame
 and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and  TrueType fonts) just the way 
I always have?

 Thanks,
  Nancy Adams

 In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 FrameMaker 8 continues to  support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
 what you mean by PS  fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
 character set of  the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

 You don't say what  type of font errors you are getting (missing fonts?
 mismapped  characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
 including  the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
 a sample  document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
  experiencing and offer some assistance.

   - Dov

  -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 13,  2008 7:55 PM
 
  Hello:
 
  I know  FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
   group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some  are
  not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
 
   Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is  
there
  anyway!
 
  Is there a pointer to an  explanation of why this is happening, and how to
  fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
   it in the framers archives.
 
 
  Kanti  Mann


 



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RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[John Sgammato]

I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. 

You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody
knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font
types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the
subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes
wrong.

john
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[acti...@aol.com]

Hi,

Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read  
into your statement, it appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are  
being translated in the background into Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there  
anything special I need to do? Or, can I just go on to use Frame and the fonts 
I  have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I always have?

Thanks,
Nancy Adams

In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
isaacs at adobe.com writes:

FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that  is
what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts.  The
character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

You  don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing  fonts?
mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific  information
including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and  perhaps
a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you  are
experiencing and offer some assistance.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From:  Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55  PM
>
> Hello:
>
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than  PS fonts as before, but in an entire
> group of 10+ writers, some of us  are getting font errors, and some are
> not, now that we're all using  the ATCS.
>
> Further, many of the errors are for things like  Helvetica, which is there
> anyway!
>
> Is there a pointer  to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
>  it in the framers archives.
>
>
> Kanti  Mann
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Stuart Rogers]

Kanti.Mann at schange.com wrote:
> Hello: 
> 
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire 
> group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
> not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 
> 
> Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there 
> anyway!
> 


More details, as requested by Dov, would be extremely helpful.  In the 
meantime:  do all of your installations have the Adobe PDF printer 
driver set as default, or do some of them have a physical printer set as 
default?  Physical printers' drivers often report their resident fonts 
to the operating system, which then treats them as though they are 
locally installed.  That can cause font errors in FM.

HTH,

-- 
Stuart Rogers
Technical Communicator
Phoenix Geophysics Limited
Toronto, ON, Canada
+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325

srogers phoenix-geophysics com

PLES RING IF AN RNSER IS REQIRD. PLEZ CNOKE IF AN RNSR IS
NOT REQUID.

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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Dov Isaacs]

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being "translated" either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1 fonts (please stop using the
term "PostScript fonts" - it means nothing since by definition, TrueType fonts
are every bit as much "PostScript fonts" as are Type 1 fonts) directly mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type 1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode. This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well. (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into the
Latin A through Z in a font for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application to effectively deal with.)

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: ActionA at aol.com [mailto:ActionA at aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35 AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
>
> Hi,
>
> Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice? From what I read 
> into your statement, it
> appears that Type 1 fonts (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
> the background into
> Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can I 
> just go on to use Frame
> and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and TrueType fonts) just the way I 
> always have?
>
> Thanks,
> Nancy Adams
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, isaacs at 
> adobe.com writes:
> FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
> what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
> character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.
>
> You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts?
> mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
> including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
> a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
> experiencing and offer some assistance.
>
> - Dov
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
> > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are
> > not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
> >
> > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there
> > anyway!
> >
> > Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> > fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
> > it in the framers archives.
> >
> >
> > Kanti Mann

why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[acti...@aol.com]

Hi Dov,

Thanks for responding. I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of  
fonts. I feel better now that I can safely use the fonts I have with Frame  8.

Thanks,
Nancy Adams


In a message dated 8/14/2008 12:56:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
isaacs at adobe.com writes:

Nancy,

I absolutely did NOT say than any fonts are being  "translated" either in the
background or otherwise. FrameMaker uses Type 1  fonts (please stop using the
term "PostScript fonts" - it means nothing  since by definition, TrueType 
fonts
are every bit as much "PostScript  fonts" as are Type 1 fonts) directly 
mapping
the glyphs in such fonts to  Unicode. The same type of mapping occurs with
TrueType fonts and OpenType  fonts.

You continue to use FrameMaker with Type 1 fonts the same way  you did in the 
past.

The only problem that I am aware of is where Type  1 fonts that had strange,
undocumented encodings are mapped into Unicode.  This is also a problem with 
every
other Adobe application as well.  (Example, mapping the Hebrew alphabet into 
the
Latin A through Z in a font  for ease of keying. That is impossible for any 
Unicode-
based application  to effectively deal with.)

-  Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: ActionA at aol.com  [mailto:ActionA at aol.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:35  AM
> To: Dov Isaacs; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re:  why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?
>
>  Hi,
>
> Would you be willing to clarify this for the font novice?  From what I read 
into your statement, it
> appears that Type 1 fonts  (the old Adobe PS fonts) are being translated in 
the background into
>  Unicode. Is that accurate? Is there anything special I need to do? Or, can 
I  just go on to use Frame
> and the fonts I have (a combination of PS and  TrueType fonts) just the way 
I always have?
>
> Thanks,
>  Nancy Adams
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:28:56 A.M. Eastern  Daylight Time, 
isaacs at adobe.com writes:
> FrameMaker 8 continues to  support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
> what you mean by "PS  fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
> character set of  the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.
>
> You don't say what  type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts?
> mismapped  characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
> including  the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
> a sample  document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
>  experiencing and offer some assistance.
>
>   - Dov
>
> > -Original Message-
>  > From: Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13,  2008 7:55 PM
> >
> > Hello:
> >
> > I know  FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
>  > group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some  are
> > not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
> >
>  > Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is  
there
> > anyway!
> >
> > Is there a pointer to an  explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> > fix the  problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
>  > it in the framers archives.
> >
> >
> > Kanti  Mann






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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[John Sgammato]

>I apologize for my clear ignorance on the topic of fonts. 

You're not the only ignorant one here. It sure would be nice if somebody
knowledgeable were to pen a comprehensive article on the subject of font
types and FM for Intercom. But I am certianly not knowledgeable in the
subject; like many of us, I stick with what I know and hope nothing goes
wrong.

john

why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Kanti . Mann]

Hello: 

I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire 
group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 

Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there 
anyway!

Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to 
fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate 
it in the framers archives.


Kanti Mann
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RE: why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Dov Isaacs]

FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
what you mean by PS fonts) as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

You don't say what type of font errors you are getting (missing fonts?
mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
experiencing and offer some assistance.

- Dov

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM

 Hello:

 I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
 group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are
 not, now that we're all using the ATCS.

 Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there
 anyway!

 Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
 fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
 it in the framers archives.


 Kanti Mann
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why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[kanti.m...@schange.com]

Hello: 

I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire 
group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are 
not, now that we're all using the ATCS. 

Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there 
anyway!

Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to 
fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate 
it in the framers archives.


Kanti Mann

why am I having missing fonts in FM8, and how to correct?

[Dov Isaacs]

FrameMaker 8 continues to support use of Type 1 fonts (I assume that is
what you mean by "PS fonts") as well as TrueType and OpenType fonts. The
character set of the Type 1 fonts are mapped into Unicode.

You don't say what type of "font errors" you are getting (missing fonts?
mismapped characters? What?). If you provide some specific information
including the exact font names, source of such fonts, etc. and perhaps
a sample document, we could perhaps better analyze the problem you are
experiencing and offer some assistance.

- Dov

> -Original Message-
> From: Kanti.Mann at schange.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 7:55 PM
>
> Hello:
>
> I know FM8 uses unicode, rather than PS fonts as before, but in an entire
> group of 10+ writers, some of us are getting font errors, and some are
> not, now that we're all using the ATCS.
>
> Further, many of the errors are for things like Helvetica, which is there
> anyway!
>
> Is there a pointer to an explanation of why this is happening, and how to
> fix the problem?  Sorry if this is already covered, but I couldn't locate
> it in the framers archives.
>
>
> Kanti Mann