Not to put too fine of a point on it, and hopefully, this
won't be taken as a personal attack, but...
[ Mr. X ] wrote:
[ Mr. W ] wrote:
As I recall, *total* functionality of the subsystems wasn't promised for
5.0-R, but the infrastructure *was* promised. I expect
you are reponding to my
David O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 02:48:21PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
I don't WANT to commit without more testing and more support for the other
platforms. However I need support from the people DOING
those platforms to go further.
For $500-$600 I can put you on a 500MHz
as current moves we need to keep up (or it doesn't patch)
I just put up a new patch which includes Peter's Alpha stuff
Note nwfs is not yet converted.. coment it out of any config files.
(also NCP it runs on, and SMBFS)
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Mike Tancsa wrote:
What's being lost
here, when it is disabled, instead of being handled as the
card manufacturer expects the OS to handle it?
From my perspective, negative functionality is being lost. There is a
nice comment in the source code explaining what it is...
[ ... actual
John Baldwin wrote:
halted CPU 0
halt code = 2
kernel stack not valid halt
PC = fc553020
You overflowed your kernel stack. You can use srm to dump the
memory at that address (I can't remember the stupid SRM syntax
for the life of me though) and wade through it looking for
Terry Lambert wrote:
David O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 02:48:21PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
I don't WANT to commit without more testing and more support for the other
platforms. However I need support from the people DOING
those platforms to go further.
For
Garance A Drosihn wrote:
I would very much like to see the KSE work in 5.0, but I still
would rather delay that for a later release instead of delaying
5.0 for another three or four months.
What about the fact that the KSE work was agreed to be
committed if finished in August at the Usenix
Julian Elischer wrote:
I don't WANT to commit without more testing and more support
for the other platforms. However I need support from the
people DOING those platforms to go further.
For $500-$600 I can put you on a 500MHz 21164 Alpha.
I've invested $2500 from my own pocket
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Jonathan Chen wrote:
...
The fix I committed this morning should get around these issues. Please
tell me if you run into any more problems.
This works (now) for supported card like my ep0 (3COM...) but reboots for
unsupported cards like my sandisk-smartmedia etc.. Is this
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 12:07:10PM +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Jonathan Chen wrote:
...
The fix I committed this morning should get around these issues. Please
tell me if you run into any more problems.
This works (now) for supported card like my ep0 (3COM...)
Terry Lambert wrote:
John Baldwin wrote:
halted CPU 0
halt code = 2
kernel stack not valid halt
PC = fc553020
You overflowed your kernel stack. You can use srm to dump the
memory at that address (I can't remember the stupid SRM syntax
for the life of me though)
I have a script that generates index for all my mail messages (using
glimpse). Sometimes, the disk is full because it has some rather big
temporary files (and I have a lot of mail).
It seems that we may have a softupdate-related (that's a guess from me)
problem because some of these temporaty
Peter Wemm writes:
Actually, this was the result of not correctly setting up the
new argument to the fork trampoline code.
We now have a fully viable Alpha + KSE kernel as of about
5 minutes ago:
Excellent. Thank you, Peter.
Drew
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FreeBSD is going to be left in the dust unless both the SMPng *AND*
KSE projects are integrated into 5.0.
I care about having a system that works well and does what I ask of
it. What the Linux horde is doing is of little concern to me, and I
suspect the same goes for a number of other
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:34:06AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
Just to get this out in the public: I for one think 5.x has enough changes in
it and would like for KSE to be postponed to 6.0-current and 6.0-release. I
I definitely agree about this, 5.x is going to be enough of a major change as
I have one system that I've been maintaining/updating since the
2.X days and I feel it's time to nuke it and start over. +1 for a
non-smp system and SMP system.
That said, I think the value of having both KSE and SMPng in 5.0
is HUGE and I think there is probably a large
Well, I for one can test it on an alpha (I'm borrowing from
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) as soon as my DSL gets installed ;-)
Ken
On Mon, 27 Aug 2001, Garance A Drosihn wrote:
At 5:09 PM -0700 8/27/01, Darryl Okahata wrote:
Is there some reason why KSE couldn't be integrated
ASAP *AFTER* 5.0 is
From my perspective, negative functionality is being lost. There is a
nice comment in the source code explaining what it is...
* Enable workarounds for certain chip revision deficiencies.
*
* Systems based on the ICH2/ICH2-M chip from Intel have a defect
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 09:32:22AM -0600, Brad Huntting wrote:
From my perspective, negative functionality is being lost. There is a
nice comment in the source code explaining what it is...
* Enable workarounds for certain chip revision deficiencies.
*
Seriously, is there any reason to hold to a time line at the
expense of some very important and very fundamental enhancements to
FreeBSD? I suppose that's something for -core to talk about/discuss,
but I bet that if a poll was put on the homepage of FreeBSD.org (hint
hint) asking
Hi,
Just a quick note to say that my -current box has started dropping
cores during make world again.
I have a kernel from August 11 that works ok, and had one from August
18 that was causing sig 4 at random places. I accidently overwrote
my Aug 18 kernel.old, but Aug 25, 27 and 28 are
On Monday 27 August 2001 05:58 pm, David O'Brien wrote:
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:10:55AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Compiling sources cvs'ed this morning (Aug 27th), I get this error:
cd /auto/roy/dist/pub/FreeBSD/CURRENT/src/usr.bin/file; make build-tools
make: don't know how to
:Hi,
:
:Just a quick note to say that my -current box has started dropping
:cores during make world again.
:
:I have a kernel from August 11 that works ok, and had one from August
:18 that was causing sig 4 at random places. I accidently overwrote
:my Aug 18 kernel.old, but Aug 25, 27 and 28
I'm posting this as an aid to everyone doing freebsd-current development
and testing and may not realize how easy it is to setup a development
environment.
The number one thing is: Don't put the CVS tree or source code on the
-current box itself, except for testing purposes.
Oh, two addendums.
/FreeBSD in my example is a big parition on my -stable box, not sitting
on the root partition obviously. I recommend at least 3 GB. In my
case I actually have the CVS tree itself, a broken-out -current
source tree, a broken-out -stable source tree, NetBSD
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
I'm posting this as an aid to everyone doing freebsd-current development
and testing and may not realize how easy it is to setup a development
environment.
I found this very helpful Matt, thank you. I would only add one thing
that I do in
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:14:29AM -0700, Matt Dillon wrote:
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Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 11:14:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: My Recommended Development/Testing environment for
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
[snip of diskless comments]
You wouldn't happen to have sample configs around, wouldn't you? :)
I will say though, on the subject of NFS, that one of the things that
I'm almost annoyed enough with to
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Jonathan Chen wrote:
...
No, that is not by intention, nor can I tell what is wrong. I've tried
sticking in unknown cards without ill effect. What would be helpful is if
you supplied at least the panic message, and a backtrace when the panic
occues. Or if this is a
The following test program hangs on current from 8/20/2001.
The program hangs in the fprintf to the function testThread(),
instead of running to completion. If the call in main to fclose()
of an unrelated file descriptor is removed the program runs to
completion.
From tracing code, it appears
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, The Anarcat wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Brandon D. Valentine wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Matt Dillon wrote:
[snip of diskless comments]
You wouldn't happen to have sample configs around, wouldn't you? :)
Am-utils (the contrib source for our amd) has been kicking around
On 28-Aug-01 Matt Dillon wrote:
I'm posting this as an aid to everyone doing freebsd-current development
and testing and may not realize how easy it is to setup a development
environment.
Nice stuff and close to what I do (I just share a development sys tree over NFS
now). One
On Wed, Aug 29, 2001 at 01:05:30AM +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Jonathan Chen wrote:
...
No, that is not by intention, nor can I tell what is wrong. I've tried
sticking in unknown cards without ill effect. What would be helpful is if
you supplied at least the
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, David O'Brien wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:17:01AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
Julian Elischer wrote:
For $500-$600 I can put you on a 500MHz 21164 Alpha.
I've invested $2500 from my own pocket in Alpha hardware, so others with
nice Bay Area saleries can
David O'Brien wrote:
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:17:01AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
Julian Elischer wrote:
For $500-$600 I can put you on a 500MHz 21164 Alpha.
I've invested $2500 from my own pocket in Alpha hardware,
so others with nice Bay Area saleries can too. :-)
Hi!
I have been wondering if fbsd people would like to move into the
openbios.org direction? Well, at least I for myself would _dream_ of
booting my laptop and have X running in 10 seconds :))
I am asking because AFAIK the openbios guys replace the standard bios
calls with their own code
* aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010828 15:37] wrote:
Hi!
I have been wondering if fbsd people would like to move into the
openbios.org direction? Well, at least I for myself would _dream_ of
booting my laptop and have X running in 10 seconds :))
I am asking because AFAIK the openbios guys
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
* aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010828 15:37] wrote:
Hi!
I have been wondering if fbsd people would like to move into the
openbios.org direction? Well, at least I for myself would _dream_ of
booting my laptop and have X running in 10 seconds
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 11:21:38PM +0200, aaron wrote:
yes, but AFAIK they will replace standard BIOS calls with their own
abstraction layer/calls. Now if fbsd uses some well known BIOS calls
which differ in the openbios abstraction layer then it wont run. so the
question boils down to: is
* aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010828 16:19] wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
* aaron [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010828 15:37] wrote:
I have been wondering if fbsd people would like to move into the
openbios.org direction? Well, at least I for myself would _dream_ of
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 11:04:39PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
It has been pointed out that the stumbling block is ~10 lines
of Akpha assembly language code that Julian is asking that
someone familiar with the Alpha write.
Julian is not an Alpha assembly language guru. In order to
make
Joseph Mallett wrote:
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:34:06AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
Just to get this out in the public: I for one think 5.x has enough changes in
it and would like for KSE to be postponed to 6.0-current and 6.0-release. I
I definitely agree about this, 5.x is going to
Sean Chittenden wrote:
Seriously, is there any reason to hold to a time line at the
expense of some very important and very fundamental enhancements to
FreeBSD? I suppose that's something for -core to talk about/discuss,
but I bet that if a poll was put on the homepage of
remember , that this is not KSE threading, just milestone 2
(run with current logic, with a broken up proc structure)
lots of distance to go yet...
Yup... but mozilla's been posting mile stones for years to get
interest. Seems like KSE and SMPng are good candidates for the same PR.
What are the current plans for diskcheckd in src? I have it ported in
sysutils/diskcheckd with minor testing needed.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Committer www.FreeBSD.org
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 09:55:13AM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote:
Joseph Mallett wrote:
On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 09:34:06AM -0700, John Baldwin wrote:
Just to get this out in the public: I for one think 5.x has enough changes in
it and would like for KSE to be postponed to 6.0-current
On Tue, Aug 28, 2001 at 01:17:01AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
Julian Elischer wrote:
For $500-$600 I can put you on a 500MHz 21164 Alpha.
I've invested $2500 from my own pocket in Alpha hardware, so others with
nice Bay Area saleries can too. :-)
Remember that Julian is
The following test program hangs on current from 8/20/2001.
The program hangs in the fprintf to the function testThread(),
instead of running to completion. If the call in main to fclose()
of an unrelated file descriptor is removed the program runs to
completion.
From tracing code, it
In message 20010828120317.U1205-10@nihil Michael Reifenberger writes:
: This works (now) for supported card like my ep0 (3COM...) but reboots for
: unsupported cards like my sandisk-smartmedia etc.. Is this by intention?
Well, that should work, but ata hasn't been NEWCARDified yet.
Warner
Subject says it all. /usr/src/etc/Makefile still refers to
diskcheckd.conf...
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Because we have not patched any non kernel items in the patch
A make world in a source tee with the KSE changes in it's kernel directories
will fail.
You need to do build the kernel outside of the tree you will "make buildworld"
in so that the build tree is untouched. Oherwise it will not
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