way, use MAKEDEV? I *don't* want to mess with
sysinstall!
I think the idea of making MAKEDEV print the devices it's creating ought
to be easy enough to hack ...
Chuck Robey| Interests include C & Java programming,
New Year's Resolution: I |
, etc.
Beginning in FreeBSD 2.1 it is possible to specify what cd unit a device
should come on line as; refer to scsi(4) for details on kernel configura-
tion.
That makes this odd setup even odder. Can't understand why this was done.
>
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failed noisily, like:
ROOT:/dev:113 >sh MAKEDEV cd1a
[: 1a: bad number
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New
ork if you have mismatched kernels &
> userlands.
I thought the work was going in precisely the opposite way, so that jail
could work without any visibility to /proc.
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users of aout software,
it only *really* strongly discourages new development in aout. I think it
just needed to be emphasized that the aout imgact stuff isn't being
tossed, so aout executables will still work (those that aren't otherwise
incompatible).
-
s*
like a good way to go. As long as this is a change for building world,
and not making changes to the kern/imgact things (so we keep on executing
aout binaries) then this is probably the best way to go.
Chu
mber
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Real hackers run -current on their laptop."
> FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far!
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l, I have to switch back and forth for a day on one machine,
can I run MAKEDEV to prepare for the new devs without ruining the system
for a kernel that's about 4 months old?
[No, it's not my machine, I run current -- real current].
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weeks now since
the commit.
I already wrote Poul about it, but he hasn't seen my email yet, I guess.
Does anyone know the direction this was going in, and what visibility the
namecache is intended to have?
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d others to do it. I don't know why it
didn't work for you, but at least it's done for you now.
>
> Chris Csanady
>
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It's broken trying to work with the name cache, and dies because it can't
find the name NCACHE. Where is this guy?
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into games is safe, but there's another trek in games
already ... I haven't played trek in a looong time, is this one better in
some way than the one already there? If it doesn't get into /usr/games,
anyhow, it can certainly go into ports.
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could be such a thing arising from the
profiling code, or something like that. Sure would do me a *whole* lot of
good, if I could get such a thing.
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awd, now that I think of it, about my Informix post, you're right, they
use a raw partition, and their own buffering.
>
> Warner
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eBSD, but Sybase uses block devices for its dedicated
> disk devices. There may be other RDBMSes that do this.
Informix, should a miracle occur and they decide to suport FreeBSD,
definitely want the same.
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I'm looking at sys/boot/common/pnp.c so I can find out how pnp is handled,
and I found something called a COMMAND_SET, and I can't figure out what it
means. Any takers?
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ation?
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ings have stopped working (the mixer totally).
This is just data if you wanted it. I can see the answer isn't laying at
your fingertips, so I will continue to read code.
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-zero
> error code, simply exit with a 0 error code or continue to the
> next file to strip.
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wanted. He was able to get the whole ~500K delta via ftp and go on, so
I guess that I'd ask you to do the same.
But let me know if that isn't doing it for you.
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problems).
Any idea why this should be so?
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no'' when
> the marketing department is going ``yes, yes.. this would be
> good for revenue''.
OK, then, I'll do it "with unofficial but general approval of many
FreeBSDers" (which is what I'll tell the folks). Too bad I don't live
in LA anymore, I use
a be the perfect hacker's movie.
Maybe we *should* go approach the producers? I have gone to that movie
several times, and I keep on enjoying it, so this is GOOD PR for them.
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On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Nickolay N.Dudorov wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 17, 1999 at 12:13:33AM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > On Tue, 17 Aug 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Last CTM delta in
> > > ftp://ctm.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/development/CTM-international/
nternational Crypto Repository run by Mark Murray out of SA?
If not, then please try again, because you've lost me, and I fix ctm
stuff (so I should know your answer).
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ut ctm on current anymore.
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ep the ctm stuff off this
list as much as possible, please.
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screaming at you, better do some
homework first. If I find it first, I'll send it to you.
>
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>
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On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
> >On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Colin Jensen wrote:
> >
> >> Why not just define a macro like SILENT_RUN=@ and replace
> >> all the @ with ${SILENT}? Then both sides of can get what they
> >> want :-)
his, Nate?
>
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(3
with every cvsup.
When the buildworld breaks, the info is at the end of the listing nearly
all of the time, so there isn't any searching time. You refer to
logfiles, but I'm talking about bsd.lib.mk, and not your application
that must be bending bsd.lib.mk to produce logfiles. This i
y when you're seeing the same damn thing, day
in and day out. When it comes to troubleshooting, and that's the only
reason to look at that listing, I want as much detail as I can get.
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, David Scheidt wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s,
> > so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides
> > things that go wrong, and h
Why are many of the build lines in bsd.lib.mk hidden with leading @'s,
so that they don't display in the build? This is useless, it hides
things that go wrong, and hardly belongs here, it seems to me.
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C
on too, which will *work* once
the wcstok_t is fixed.
itojun (I was kidding above, making sure you knew) I'm checking yours
now.
>
> itojun
>
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Tim Vanderhoek wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 07, 1999 at 01:45:47AM -0400, Chuck Robey wrote:
> > Don't wory. I guess with my dual controllers, that's likely what did
> > it. I only had ahc0, not ahc1, in my config file. For some reason, it
> > did
Don't wory. I guess with my dual controllers, that's likely what did
it. I only had ahc0, not ahc1, in my config file. For some reason, it
didn't like that anymore.
Anyhow, it's fixed.
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someone would do the interpreting, but I better make it clear that my
own interest is in document formatting, not on the Unicode support in
and of itself, you understand? I want you guys to be able to use my
stuff, but since I can't read it, I'll never use 16 bit characters
myself.
I think
er.
I've checked with the old kernel, comparing everything, it all looks
fine, and the new kernel won't even boot single user, so I can't tell if
it's suddenly decided to juggle my drives or not.
anyone know if anything has changed?
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for current, so I don't care if it's not in
stable or some older release.
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On Sat, 29 May 1999, John Polstra wrote:
> In article ,
> Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > I thought libgcc was being deprecated, isn't that so? That only
> > libstdc++ was going to be needed?
>
> No, I think you're confusing libgcc with libg++.
Yeah, g
that so? That only
libstdc++ was going to be needed? This is a pretty well needed
function, so I'm somewhat confused, and hope that some other C++ expert
can explain what's happening under egcs these days, with respect to
libgcc.
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on him over it (you didn't,
Daniel). A little humor is allowed, as long as things are kept in
proportion, right?
Enough.
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ject in mind; I'm just going to code it (once I get
finished with classes in 2 weeks); if it gets turned down, I'm a big
boy, I'll get over it.
If it was longer, I would bore you all with it. It's not, and I won't.
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record of communicating regularly was chosen.
Not from a technical standpoint, but from a managerial standpoint, why
does this surprise you? Don't offer technical arguments, this is not a
technical issue.
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it, it makes some sense, tho,
doesn't it?
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st month or so, I've noticed distinctly greater
stability to ppp. Haven't any notion why that is, but I'm sure pleased
with it.
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;ers are real
happily addicted).
The answer is no. Face it, it's *possible* that there are better
management tools than cvs, but it's for darn sure we can't do better
than cvsup/ctm. This discussion merits dropping, at least until someone
rewrites cvsup & ctm. Don
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On Tue, 4 May 1999, Stephen McKay wrote:
> On Sunday, 2nd May 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 3 May 1999, Jean-Marc Zucconi wrote:
> >
> >> This one did not arrive in my mailbox. Can someone send it to me? I
> >> would like to avoid downloading 6Mbytes a
If you've EVER used tcpdump, go take a look at this site, I guarantee
it's worth your time:
http://www.capmedia.fr/mgall/xip/
What a GREAT idea! A full graphical tcpdump!
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chu..
ass2 #CAM passthrough driver
# KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2).
# This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases
# the costs of each syscall.
options KTRACE #kernel tracing
# PS/2 mouse
device psm0at atkbdc? irq 12
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> courage to trust Windows with your data."
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OSPF. The date
on the rfc seems to back me up.
Which one should I quote?
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I really miss far pointers, but right now we could use one...
No profanity on this list (and Poul, far-pointers were very definitely
profane!) Go wash out your mouth!
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s energy for this topic, might he be willing? :-)
It's likely I'll have time this weekend. Anyone got a URL?
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sic idea of what the OSPF router
program should do, it doesn't sound like a huge problem to do, and the
actual specs are pretty well laid out and public, right?
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PF seems to have a lot of good features, and it's hardly new,
why isn't a router using OSPF installed with FreeBSD?
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o there. All
you're doing here is making yourself look bad.
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, myself, but even if there is (and I
know, there must be some) then it sure seems worth it.
This new-bus stuff is absolutely great, and I hope Doug, Peter, and
everyone else involved doesn't hear the criticism only. You guys are
doing fine work.
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CS423x/Yamaha/AD1816 sn 0x) at 0x530-0x537 irq 15
drq 1 f
lags 0x10 on isa
Notice that the line beginning "port" shows twice, which is an odditity.
I use a line in my kernel.conf of:
pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x534 port2 0x220 irq0 15 drq0 1 drq1 0
I'm not saying Brian doesn&#x
er and verse. There is nothing in the spec that
says how the underlying OS has to treat processes on a global scale.
This hasn't a darn thing to do with ANSI C compliance. If you want to
argue that you don't like memory overcommit, that's valid, but claiming
the non-compliance is
o
wonder *you* won't do it.
>
> : 2. Implement it
> :
> : 3. Send patches.
>
> And I certainly don't care enough to do that!-)
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I'd like to have % there... And, as I mentioned before, an
> ability to distribute the class database over NIS...
>
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n (a
hacker) would find only 2 minute capabilities.
Do you think something like this would still contribute to the cascade
failure scenarios?
>
> -Matt
> Matthew Dillon
>
>
>
&
On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, eagle wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, eagle wrote:
> >
> > > > Whelp... I vote to break tradition. Hack away...The installer takes
> > > > care of alot of stuff
ion. Oh well... my thoughts :)
> >
> well geeze Xwindows isnt in the base source tree anymore, what more do
> ya want ;)
Anymore? It's never been there to begin with.
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etter. OTOH, as Jordan pointed out, maybe we need a *little* more
experience with gcj, but fortran, it's ready *now*.
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On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
> >Don't forget, with all the gnome and gtk ports (and the kde things)
>
> tcl and tk also install various version-specific information (and has
> anyone else noticed that tk depends on X11 (ie XFree86) and the
iled (non portably) into binaries on FreeBSD.
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cations, which means they sometimes won't affect regular runtime
problems, just beating the heck out of the upgrade nightmare.
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`genattr.c' is up to date.
> > `gencodes.c' is up to date.
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Alex Zepeda wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, John Polstra wrote:
>
> > Chuck Robey wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks for the clue, John! As much as I hate redoing the KDE and
> > > gnome ports, it looks like doing that again ...
> >
> >
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, John Polstra wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the clue, John! As much as I hate redoing the KDE and
> > gnome ports, it looks like doing that again ...
>
> I don't blame you. I've never even built them, for the simple (la
On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, John Polstra wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > configure:4096: /bin/sh ./libtool --silent --mode=link c++ -o conftest -Os
> > -pipe
> > -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/X11/qt -I/usr/X11R6/include
> > -I/usr/l
> > ocal/include
er_exceptions'
/usr/local/lib/libkdecore.so: undefined reference to `_vt$11QPushButton'
I thought you had patched ld-elf.so.1 so this (__register_exceptions)
wouldn't get hit again, but maybe I'm wrong, could you please bang me on
the head with the story, and THIS TIME I'l
does something*
> * child-like." -Forbes Burkowski, CS 454 *
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On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Robert Nordier wrote:
> Chuck Robey wrote:
>
> > I just finished a buildworld, and I'm not sure about the laoder binary.
> > In my obj/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/loader directory, I have 3 files that
> > might be loader:
> >
> > -rw-r
good
loader or not? This is the last thing worrying me about giong to egcs,
and I'm just playing it very cautiously.
Thanks.
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I'm busily making world, but in the meantime, what's the name of the
system compiler going to be, egcs or gcc, or cc? And the C++ one?
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ng it to freshman antics, is
emotionalism. We have a good reason to push ahead here, and an easy
recovery path. Some folks might get surprised, but that seems like a
small thing, actually, because nearly all of them are reading this.
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fore raising
a ruckus. It'll come back. I'm waiting some repairs myself.
>
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s than what
I envision, perhaps you're getting what you want over badly, and seeing
a port done as you want would be instructive to the rest of us. I think
you're going to spend a *lot* of time doing that one port.
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uild (as they are
now) in cross-hosted environments. There's 2000 ports to consider, and
the fix has to go in soon, not something for 2001.
I would not be against changes in strategy for the longer run (and your
ideas have merit for that view) but we need a short term fix here.
-
cated). How would I
increase the amount of memory given to boot messages for dmesg?
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for awhile.
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