Re: mac mini (intel)?

2006-07-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: A day or three ago someone posted about having 6.1-CURRENT (I believe) run on a MacBook laptop. Does anyone have it running on a Mac Mini (intel)? I might be interested in getting a couple to handle email services to nfs mounted mail stores. I like their

Re: mac mini (intel)?

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 02:01 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: A day or three ago someone posted about having 6.1-CURRENT (I believe) run on a MacBook laptop. Does anyone have it running on a Mac Mini (intel)? I might be interested in getting a couple to

Re: mac mini (intel)?

2006-07-13 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:01 AM, Chuck Swiger wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: A day or three ago someone posted about having 6.1-CURRENT (I believe) run on a MacBook laptop. Does anyone have it running on a Mac Mini (intel)? I might be interested in getting a couple to handle email

Re: mac mini (intel)?

2006-07-13 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 02:01 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: A day or three ago someone posted about having 6.1-CURRENT (I believe) run on a MacBook laptop. Does anyone have it running on a Mac Mini

Re: Boot hangs at /bin/sh?, can't see USB keyboard

2006-07-13 Thread Erik Norgaard
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 12/07/06 Erik Nørgaard said: The keyboard usually works on the boot menu as the bios is in control. So, exit the menu to load the kernel modules you need, usb, ukbd and uhid I think should do. Then boot into single user mode. For next time, this happens, I suggest

Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
David Christensen wrote: hello, world! I'm a FreeBSD newbie who has installed FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE-i386 using the developer with X option. man doesn't seem to work: 2006-07-12 21:59:38 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # man man No manual entry for man 2006-07-12 22:12:42 [EMAIL

*bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread DW
Hi all, Just doing some early morning brainstorming, and my crazy thought of the day is this: My life would be so much easier if I could just get rid of my stupid PIX firewalls, and replace them what I know and love: FreeBSD. It's not that the PIX's have been causing me problems or anything

Re: *bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Moran
DW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just doing some early morning brainstorming, and my crazy thought of the day is this: My life would be so much easier if I could just get rid of my stupid PIX firewalls, and replace them what I know and love: FreeBSD. It's not that the PIX's have

RE: *bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread Philippe Lang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just doing some early morning brainstorming, and my crazy thought of the day is this: My life would be so much easier if I could just get rid of my stupid PIX firewalls, and replace them what I know and love: FreeBSD. It's not that the PIX's have been

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
(maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:36 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: I am trying to get a linux app to use hardware acceleration. I have a couple of linux apps (googleearth, NWN) that *do presently work* with hardware acceleration... but this one in particular (linux-ut) *does not*.

Re: CUPS, one more try

2006-07-13 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 22:42, E. J. Cerejo wrote: I've been trying to configure my HP Officejet 4315 using CUPS 1.2.0 but so far all I can do is configure a printer using the web interface and I'm able to print a test page but when I try to print any other document I'm unable to print, I

Re: how to update sources?

2006-07-13 Thread Jaime
On Jul 13, 2006, at 1:41 AM, Ivakin E. Dmitriy 83432 wrote: But you know, this PC is single machine with FreeBSD. I think it'll be good choice to update source if I can download it from web-site as tar archive (for example, like ports tree). Sorry, but I don't know how to do that. I was

Re: *bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread DW
Philippe Lang wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Just doing some early morning brainstorming, and my crazy thought of the day is this: My life would be so much easier if I could just get rid of my stupid PIX firewalls, and replace them what I know and love: FreeBSD. It's not that

Re: Sysinstall - Will not die

2006-07-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this has been discussed before, please point it out. I've done some searching and can not quite come up with the solution other than to reboot the server. I'm hoping a

Re: termcap problems

2006-07-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Alex Push [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi All, I recently got FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE on my server, and a couple of days ago I started getting this message when I ssh in: csh: Cannot open /etc/termcap csh: using dumb terminal settings This yields a very limited terminal -- I can execute basic

Re: *bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
You clowns with your diskless servers just crack me up. Everyone brags about their years of uptime on their servers, yet you just can't put up a firewall or router without a disk. What, are you still using mfm drives or something? --- DW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Philippe Lang wrote: [EMAIL

Re: mac mini (intel)?

2006-07-13 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 00:54 -0600, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 02:01 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: A day or three ago someone posted about having 6.1-CURRENT (I believe)

top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread stan
I just installed 6.1 stable (AMD64) on a Sun Ultra 40. This is a dual CPU machine. I have Linux installed on a similar machine. On the Linux box I can fire up top and type 1 to see the load on each CPU. This does not seem to work on the FreeBSD machine. Should it? How can I verify that the

Best way to create a large data space

2006-07-13 Thread stan
i have a Sun Ultra 40 with 4 500F SATA drives. I plan on using this machine primarily for a large data storage requirement. What I want is one large /data partition. Given all the choices for doing this in FreeBSD (software) what's the best choice here? The partio will be shared via SAMBA if

Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread Ashok TM
use top -S There will be new column with 'C' tag which displays the the cpu id on which the process is running mptables to list the processors available On 7/13/06, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just installed 6.1 stable (AMD64) on a Sun Ultra 40. This is a dual CPU machine. I have

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Francisco Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: the problem is that none of the Tier 1 hardware manufacturer's support FreeBSD, and a growing number of places (ie. Adaptec / Intel) appear to be dropping support for it as well ... But companies like 3Ware

Re: CUPS, one more try

2006-07-13 Thread E. J. Cerejo
Donald J. O'Neill [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: On Wednesday 12 July 2006 22:42, E. J. Cerejo wrote: I've been trying to configure my HP Officejet 4315 using CUPS 1.2.0 but so far all I can do is configure a printer using the web interface and I'm able to print a test page but when I try to

swith old version to the new version

2006-07-13 Thread tethys ocean
Hi All I have some problem about How I can switch new version of program in my system, without clean old version. I want to install Spamasssasin so it need perl and in my server running old version of perl(perl5) and also I install new version of perl(perl5.8) but my system dont switch new

Re: *bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread DW
Danial Thom wrote: You clowns with your diskless servers just crack me up. Everyone brags about their years of uptime on their servers, yet you just can't put up a firewall or router without a disk. What, are you still using mfm drives or something? My motives have nothing to do with

squid Error: Can not stop process id 455

2006-07-13 Thread dharam paul
On Free BSD 6.1, after reconfiguring squid is not able to stop so that it can restart after I pas the following command: /usr/local/etc/rc.d/squid.sh restart I have enable squid in /etc/rc.conf so that it should start whenever the system is started. Any body has a solutin please reply. Thanks

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Eric Schuele
On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov wrote: (maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:36 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: I am trying to get a linux app to use hardware acceleration. I have a couple of linux apps (googleearth, NWN) that *do presently work* with hardware acceleration... but this

Re: CDROM

2006-07-13 Thread Ivan Levchenko
Hello, Try just mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /cdrom (without the a) On 7/12/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jul 10, 2006 07:48 PM, Bill Moran wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can read from my CDROM under Windows 98 , but when I try to read

getting rid of apache passphrase

2006-07-13 Thread jan gestre
hello people, just want to ask if getting rid of the apache passphrase poses a security threat, i don't want the company i worked for calling me up everytime they cant access the webserver because the server is asking for the passphrase everytime the box restarts du to power failure. TIA

Re: getting rid of apache passphrase

2006-07-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
jan gestre wrote: just want to ask if getting rid of the apache passphrase poses a security threat, i don't want the company i worked for calling me up everytime they cant access the webserver because the server is asking for the passphrase everytime the box restarts du to power failure.

Re: swith old version to the new version

2006-07-13 Thread Gerard Seibert
tethys ocean wrote: Hi All I have some problem about How I can switch new version of program in my system, without clean old version. I want to install Spamasssasin so it need perl and in my server running old version of perl(perl5) and also I install new version of perl(perl5.8) but my

Re: Boot hangs at /bin/sh?, can't see USB keyboard

2006-07-13 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Bill Moran wrote: In response to Chris Shenton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If not, any suggestions on how to get it to boot to a point where I could fix the /etc/fstab? Only thing I can think of is burn a bootable FreeBSD disk, boot from it, then mount the hard drive and fix fstab from that.

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
--- Francisco Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: the problem is that none of the Tier 1 hardware manufacturer's support FreeBSD, and a growing number of places (ie. Adaptec / Intel) appear to be dropping support for it as well ... But companies

Re: CUPS, one more try

2006-07-13 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Thursday 13 July 2006 08:09, E. J. Cerejo wrote: Don I just did what you told me but I still get the same message when run lpstat, and still can't print. EJC www.only7bucks.com - Take a look at:

Re: getting rid of apache passphrase

2006-07-13 Thread jan gestre
On 7/13/06, Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jan gestre wrote: just want to ask if getting rid of the apache passphrase poses a security threat, i don't want the company i worked for calling me up everytime they cant access the webserver because the server is asking for the passphrase

Re: *bsd firewall appliance?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- DW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Danial Thom wrote: You clowns with your diskless servers just crack me up. Everyone brags about their years of uptime on their servers, yet you just can't put up a firewall or router without a disk. What, are you still using mfm drives or something?

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov wrote: (maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:36 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: I am trying to get a linux app to use hardware acceleration. I have a couple of linux apps (googleearth, NWN)

Re: getting rid of apache passphrase

2006-07-13 Thread Chuck Swiger
jan gestre wrote: [ ... ] yes, i'm talking about apache with ssl/tls encryption, is that passphrase going to be a security issue in the internet or locally at the machine level? if it's machine level, i have no problem getting rid of it coz nobody here knows anything about

Re: IMAP server alternatives

2006-07-13 Thread jan gestre
On 7/11/06, Nagy László [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I tried cyrus-imapd, but I'm unsatisfied. Their website was down for a day. Now it is up, but the pages were not updated after 2003. They had a majordomo list but it is not functioning. I found another mailing list but nobody answers.

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:52:34 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov wrote: (maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:36 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: I am trying to get a linux app to use hardware

Re: getting rid of apache passphrase

2006-07-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
hello people, just want to ask if getting rid of the apache passphrase poses a security threat, i don't want the company i worked for calling me up everytime they cant access the webserver because the server is asking for the passphrase everytime the box restarts du to power failure.

supported webcam

2006-07-13 Thread Paulo Roberto
Hi, Does anyone know if there is a webcam model that is supported by FBSD that is still being sold? Thanks PAulo __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Eric Schuele
On 07/13/2006 09:52, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov wrote: (maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:36 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: I am trying to get a linux app to use hardware acceleration. I have a

Re: getting rid of apache passphrase

2006-07-13 Thread jan gestre
On 7/13/06, Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello people, just want to ask if getting rid of the apache passphrase poses a security threat, i don't want the company i worked for calling me up everytime they cant access the webserver because the server is asking for the

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Eric Schuele
On 07/13/2006 10:01, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:52:34 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov wrote: (maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 11:26:36 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: I am trying to

Re: CUPS, one more try

2006-07-13 Thread E. J. Cerejo
I had just fixed it! It looks like it's printing fine now, the only thing I had not done was to uninstall everything that had to do with printing, so I uninstalled apsfilter, CUPS, LPRng and hplip then reinstalled cups and hplip only and it worked. It looks like LPRng and apsfilter conflicts

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Head in the sand Jerry mumbled: --- Francisco Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: the problem is that none of the Tier 1 hardware manufacturer's support FreeBSD, and a growing number of places (ie. Adaptec / Intel) appear to be dropping

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:13:34 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 10:01, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:52:34 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov wrote: (maintainer CCed) On Wed, 12

Re: swith old version to the new version

2006-07-13 Thread tethys ocean
No; in document (http://www.hart.co.jp/spam/sa-clamav-e.html) only insruct to spamassassin installation but I think perl updating process is hard and differ from spamasssin installation, since it give some error in below Verifying install for p5-GSSAPI0 in /usr/ports/security/p5-GSSAPI ===

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Eric Schuele
On 07/13/2006 10:24, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:13:34 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 10:01, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:52:34 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 06:50, Boris Samorodov

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Nick Withers
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Head in the sand Jerry mumbled: Just thought I should metion that this comes across as rude to me... but maybe that's just me! --- Francisco Reyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes:

RE: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread David Christensen
Matthew Seaman wrote: What are the contents of /etc/manpath.config ? $ cat /etc/manpath.config | egrep -v '^#' MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/man MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/openssl/man OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/X11R6/man

Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread Nick Withers
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:42:53 -0700 David Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: What are the contents of /etc/manpath.config ? $ cat /etc/manpath.config | egrep -v '^#' MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/man MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/openssl/man

Re: swith old version to the new version

2006-07-13 Thread Gerard Seibert
tethys ocean wrote: No; in document (http://www.hart.co.jp/spam/sa-clamav-e.html) only insruct to spamassassin installation but I think perl updating process is hard and differ from spamasssin installation, since it give some error in below Verifying install for p5-GSSAPI0 in

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Nick Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Head in the sand Jerry mumbled: Just thought I should metion that this comes across as rude to me... but maybe that's just me! --- Francisco Reyes

Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread Micah
Nick Withers wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:42:53 -0700 David Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: See the manpath(1) man page for more information. 2006-07-13 08:38:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ man manpath No manual entry for manpath Hahaha... I absolutely

Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread Jaime
On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:48 AM, Nick Withers wrote: Unfortunately (or at least as I understand it), the contents of /etc/manpath.config don't matter if you have the MANPATH environment variable set. Is this true if you set it to $MANPATH:/usr/local/additional/path ? Come to

xpaint question.

2006-07-13 Thread Gary Kline
I used to know how to use xpaint to change backgrounds ... and lots more, but now I'm fumbling. If it isn't *too* far off the -question list's target, can anybody clue me in howto change just the solid-black background to another solid color? thanks much

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Danial Thom wrote: Simply enabling SMP on a single processor system adds 20-25% overhead in freebsd 6.1. Again, readily admitted/accepted by the developers. There is no way to recover that in efficiency, at least not for a long time. So don't enable SMP on a

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Danial Thom wrote: Simply enabling SMP on a single processor system adds 20-25% overhead in freebsd 6.1. Again, readily admitted/accepted by the developers. There is no way to recover that in

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Danial Thom wrote: --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Danial Thom wrote: Simply enabling SMP on a single processor system adds 20-25% overhead in freebsd 6.1. Again, readily admitted/accepted by the

Re: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
David Christensen wrote: Matthew Seaman wrote: What are the contents of /etc/manpath.config ? $ cat /etc/manpath.config | egrep -v '^#' MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/man MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/openssl/man OPTIONAL_MANPATH/usr/local/man

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Nick Withers
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:47:23 -0700 (PDT) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Danial Thom wrote: Simply enabling SMP on a single processor system adds 20-25% overhead in freebsd 6.1.

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Greg Barniskis
Nick Withers wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Head in the sand Jerry mumbled: Just thought I should metion that this comes across as rude to me... but maybe that's just me! No, it's not you. Mr. Thom thoroughly obscures the fact that

Re: Boot hangs at /bin/sh?, can't see USB keyboard

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Shenton
Bill Moran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On some Dells, there is a BIOS option to boot with USB legacy support (or some similar wording) or without USB support at all. Having the correct setting is pivotal to getting the USB keyboard to work. The correct setting varies from model to model.

Re: xpaint question.

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Hunter
On Jul 13 at 09:30, Gary Kline wrote: I used to know how to use xpaint to change backgrounds ... and lots more, but now I'm fumbling. If it isn't *too* far off the -question list's target, can anybody clue me in howto change just the solid-black background to

Re: ELF file OS ABI invalid....

2006-07-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:28:41 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 10:24, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:13:34 -0500 Eric Schuele wrote: On 07/13/2006 10:01, Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 18:52:34 +0400 Boris Samorodov wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 08:59:46

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Danial Thom wrote: --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Danial Thom wrote: Simply enabling SMP on a single processor system adds

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
Burying your head in the sand is a common method used by stupid people that have no answer to the truth. I don't blame you; you guys don't want your employers to know that you've wasted man 1000s of their dollars because you don't know the performance characteristics of the hardware you've

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Danial Thom wrote: --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Danial Thom wrote: SMP has overhead but FreeBSD on 2 processors can do more work than FreeBSD on the same HW with just 1 processor. That is a fact.

TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Hi everyone, I have been trying to figure this one out for a couple of days, but no can do. My clock on my bsd box currently 19 minutes ahead of the real world. I have it set to query my w2k box as the time server. I do have the ntpd running, So I am not sure how to adjust I tried this

emulators ports: linux_base-8 vs linux_base-fc4

2006-07-13 Thread Petre Bandac
hallo after a cvsup, portupgrading acroread gives me the following: ## linux_base-fc-4_6 conflicts with installed package(s): linux_base-8-8.0_15 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1). ## and kgb# pkg_info linux_base-8-8.0_15

Re: emulators ports: linux_base-8 vs linux_base-fc4

2006-07-13 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:18:57PM +0300, Petre Bandac wrote: hallo after a cvsup, portupgrading acroread gives me the following: ## linux_base-fc-4_6 conflicts with installed package(s): linux_base-8-8.0_15 They install files into the same place. Please remove them

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Danial Thom
--- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 12:04 PM, Danial Thom wrote: --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Danial Thom wrote: SMP has overhead but FreeBSD on 2 processors can

Re: emulators ports: linux_base-8 vs linux_base-fc4

2006-07-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:18:57 +0300 Petre Bandac wrote: after a cvsup, portupgrading acroread gives me the following: ## linux_base-fc-4_6 conflicts with installed package(s): linux_base-8-8.0_15 They install files into the same place. Please remove them first with

Using mergemaster for non-base files

2006-07-13 Thread Ian A. Tegebo
Is anyone using mergemaster for groups of files that are not being updated from /usr/src? I've been thinking of making a copy of /usr/src/etc/Makefile and then modifying it so that I can run mergemaster like this: -- script --

RE: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
-Original Message- From: Peter A. Giessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:33 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TIME loss On 7/13/2006 10:13, Jean-Paul Natola seems to have typed: I do have the ntpd running, what does

RE: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
-Original Message- From: Peter A. Giessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:33 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TIME loss On 7/13/2006 10:13, Jean-Paul Natola seems to have typed: I do have the ntpd running, what does ntpq

Re: Sysinstall - Will not die

2006-07-13 Thread Duane Hill
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 10 Jul 2006, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Duane Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If this has been discussed before, please point it out. I've done some searching and can not quite come up with the solution

swiN: clock sio process taking 75% CPU

2006-07-13 Thread Gareth McCaughan
(Approximately the same question as I'm about to ask seems to have come up many times in -questions and -stable, but I haven't found a useful answer to it.) I have a box running 6-STABLE, cvsupped yesterday. Until recently it was running 5.something and showed exactly the same peculiar behaviour

Dcc resume over nat fix for 6.x ?

2006-07-13 Thread Todd Martin
The dcc resume over nat bug has a patch for 5.x that works. Even though it was never added to the source code: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin/50310 I would like to know if there is a fix for 6.x Since libalias is a kernel module in this version, I cant figgure out how to get it

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Jul 13, 2006, at 9:22 AM, Danial Thom wrote: Simply enabling SMP on a single processor system adds 20-25% overhead in freebsd 6.1. Again, readily admitted/accepted by the developers. There is no way to recover that in efficiency, at least not for a long time. So don't enable

Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ?

2006-07-13 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-07-13 11:31, Danial Thom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the deal, Chad. On this list, all the college-kid sysadmins tell me how great FreeBSD is, but on the freebsd-performance list, none of the developers refute my findings. If that doesn't tell you something, then you really don't

Re: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Andy Greenwood
IIRC, ntpdate only syncs your time at boot. You want something like ntpd_enable=YES On 7/13/06, Jean-Paul Natola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Peter A. Giessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:33 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc:

RE: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
But as I mentioned earlier ntpd is running , when I do top -Original Message- From: Andy Greenwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 4:11 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola Cc: Peter A. Giessel; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TIME loss IIRC, ntpdate only

Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread stan
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 06:08:50PM +0530, Ashok TM wrote: use top -S There will be new column with 'C' tag which displays the the cpu id on which the process is running mptables to list the processors available Hmm, cvsup# mptables mptables: Command not found. cvsup# man -k mptables

Re: Best way to create a large data space

2006-07-13 Thread John Nielsen
On Thursday 13 July 2006 08:34, stan wrote: i have a Sun Ultra 40 with 4 500F SATA drives. I plan on using this machine primarily for a large data storage requirement. What I want is one large /data partition. Given all the choices for doing this in FreeBSD (software) what's the best

RE: 6.1-RELEASE-i386 man broken?

2006-07-13 Thread David Christensen
freebsd-questions: Nick Withers wrote: Unfortunately (or at least as I understand it), the contents of /etc/manpath.config don't matter if you have the MANPATH environment variable set. Did you happen to set this yourself (i.e., explicitly)? Yes: 2006-07-13 13:09:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~

Re: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Bob Johnson
On 7/13/06, Jean-Paul Natola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I have been trying to figure this one out for a couple of days, but no can do. My clock on my bsd box currently 19 minutes ahead of the real world. I have it set to query my w2k box as the time server. I do have the ntpd

Buildworld failes

2006-07-13 Thread Luchezar Petkov
Hi list, make buildworld failes to build, the error messages are: /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/cryptlib.c:111:3: #error Inconsistency between crypto.h and cryptlib.c In file included from

RE: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Hill
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: But as I mentioned earlier ntpd is running , when I do top ...? Anyway, make sure your drift file exists and is writeable. Mine looks like this: $ ls -l /var/db/ntpd.drift -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6 Jul 13 17:01 /var/db/ntpd.drift If it's

Re: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Bill Moran
Jean-Paul Natola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But as I mentioned earlier ntpd is running , when I do top Couple of things: 1) NTP will refuse to adjust the clock if it's too far off. If your clock is drifting very badly, this may cause ntp to be unable to correct it. 2) If your clock is

Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread Bob Johnson
On 7/13/06, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 06:08:50PM +0530, Ashok TM wrote: use top -S There will be new column with 'C' tag which displays the the cpu id on which the process is running mptables to list the processors available Hmm, cvsup# mptables mptables:

RE: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Mike Jeays
On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 17:35 -0400, Chris Hill wrote: On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: But as I mentioned earlier ntpd is running , when I do top ...? Anyway, make sure your drift file exists and is writeable. Mine looks like this: $ ls -l /var/db/ntpd.drift

RE: TIME loss

2006-07-13 Thread Chris Hill
On Thu, 13 Jul 2006, Mike Jeays wrote: On Thu, 2006-07-13 at 17:35 -0400, Chris Hill wrote: [...] To sync the clock on boot, you can add ntpd_sync_on_start=NO # Sync time on ntpd startup, even if offset is high ...to /etc/rc.conf. Wouldn't 'ntpd_sync_on_start=YES' work better? Or is it a

Is SPF being used on FreeBSD.org? Where's my PR?

2006-07-13 Thread Joao Barros
I filled a PR through send-pr(1) some hours ago and I can't find it in GNATS. I received the CC I sent myself but nothing else... Is spf being used on Freebsd.org? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Jul

Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread Bob
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Johnson wrote: I don't have a 6.1 SMP system to test it on. On a brand nwe 6,1 SMP system the first 2 lines of top -S PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME WCPUCOMMAND 11 root1 171 52 0K 8K RUN1

home encrypted from install (freebsd 6.1)

2006-07-13 Thread Dave
Hello, I'm about to do a 6.1 install on a new box. I'm separating /home in the filesystem so it's a system of it's own. During the install maybe after the install, but before the reboot i'd like to encrypt /home so that any data written to it after reboot will be encrypted. I was wondering

CUPS, Network Printing

2006-07-13 Thread Anthony Agelastos
Hello, Since my latest CUPS problem has nothing to do with the thread it was mentioned in (CUPS, USB printers Permission Denied), I wanted to restate the problem and give some additional information. When I try to print to my printer through the network via my MacBook Pro (which worked

Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread stan
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 07:01:05PM -0400, Bob wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bob Johnson wrote: I don't have a 6.1 SMP system to test it on. On a brand nwe 6,1 SMP system the first 2 lines of top -S PID USERNAME THR PRI NICE SIZERES STATE C TIME

Re: top and multiple CPU's

2006-07-13 Thread stan
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 06:03:49PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: On 7/13/06, stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 06:08:50PM +0530, Ashok TM wrote: use top -S There will be new column with 'C' tag which displays the the cpu id on which the process is running mptables

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