Re: Freebsd 6.1 Samba 3 as a PDC not using ldap

2006-06-24 Thread bsd
 Hello

 I am looking for help with running SAMBA 3 as a PDC on Freebsd 6.1

 I can get samba to run as a basic server no problem.

 but I would like it get samba to run as a pdc but not using ldap,

 I would be most grateful if I could see a working smb.conf file
 running as a pdc that would perhaps steer me in the correct direction.

 The examples that come with samba 3 have not been ported to freebsd
 and my visits to google have yielded lots of info but nothing that
 actually helps me.

 The problem comes for me to add machines get them to 'register' as
 part of the domain etc

 Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer


 Kind Regards

 Godfrey


Godfrey,

There are some very good examples on the samba site itself and they are
also in the smaba docs on your machine.

This guide is for Centos, but I found it quite useful:
http://www.hughesjr.com/content/view/24/30/Guides

Rob


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Help with installing php4 and upgrading mysql323 for Apache 1.36

2006-06-24 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen

Hi,
I'm having trouble figuring out what and how to install and upgrade some
programs/modules. This was very simple when I last did it, but I haven't
been around doing this since version 4.7 was new and now some things have
changed. Server is now 4.11 STABLE (or will be on monday).

I have the latest Apache-mod_ssl installed and I need to have the latest
mod_php4 for Apache aswell as upgrading mysql to the latest of the 323
version. (Perhaps I'll go for mysql 4.1, but I need to verify this with some
software running on my system first.)

What port/modul should I install to get php4 working under apache? I used to
install mod_php4, but from my /usr/ports tree this seems deprecated to me.
It's also important that I can make the php4 module work together with mysql
323.

Any help very much appreciated!

Thanks a lot.

Best regards,
Andreas
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Help with installing php4 and upgrading mysql323 for Apache 1.36

2006-06-24 Thread bsd
 Hi,
 I'm having trouble figuring out what and how to install and upgrade some
 programs/modules. This was very simple when I last did it, but I haven't
 been around doing this since version 4.7 was new and now some things have
 changed. Server is now 4.11 STABLE (or will be on monday).

 I have the latest Apache-mod_ssl installed and I need to have the latest
 mod_php4 for Apache aswell as upgrading mysql to the latest of the 323
 version. (Perhaps I'll go for mysql 4.1, but I need to verify this with
 some
 software running on my system first.)

 What port/modul should I install to get php4 working under apache? I used
 to
 install mod_php4, but from my /usr/ports tree this seems deprecated to me.
 It's also important that I can make the php4 module work together with
 mysql
 323.

 Any help very much appreciated!

 Thanks a lot.

 Best regards,
 Andreas

Andreas,

As 6.x is out, 4.11 etc will soon be no longer supported. You should
consider updating to 5.x at least if possible. I'm running 6.1 with no
problems.

mod_php has been deprecated as you found out. Use the php4 port instead
which has the functionality of the mod_php4 port.

Rob

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Help with installing php4 and upgrading mysql323 for Apache 1.36

2006-06-24 Thread Andreas Widerøe Andersen

On 6/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


As 6.x is out, 4.11 etc will soon be no longer supported. You should
consider updating to 5.x at least if possible. I'm running 6.1 with no
problems.

mod_php has been deprecated as you found out. Use the php4 port instead
which has the functionality of the mod_php4 port.

Rob



Thanks Rob,
The server will be erased and installed with the latest version for FreeBSD
in a few months, but untill then I feel I need to stick to 4.X since there
are too much on the machine built under this branch. The server that will
replace this one will have the latest 6.X version for sure.

I'll try with the php4 port, but I think there are a lot of build options
there. What is the minimal I need in order to get php4 working together with
Apache 1.36 and Mysql?

/Andreas
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


RE: USB External harddrive

2006-06-24 Thread Ben House
Yes, I am using a GENERIC kernel with the related scsi modules.

Ben House

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew
Pantyukhin
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 1:03 AM
To: Ben House
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: USB External harddrive


On 6/24/06, Ben House [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,

 I have an issue with trying to hookup a USB hard drive to an IBM Netfinity
 3000 server.  The direct access (da) device does not appear in the /dev
 directory.  It appears that the Western Digital drive is being recognized.
 I am using a Generic kernel, 6.0 Release.

 dmesg:
 umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/6.02, addr 2
 uhid0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/6.02, addr 2, iclass 8/6
 umass0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
 umass0: detached
 uhid0: at uhub0 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected
 uhid0: detached
 umass0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/6.02, addr 2
 uhid0: Western Digital External HDD, rev 2.00/6.02, addr 2, iclass 8/6

Just to be sure... Are you using a generic kernel and if not,
do you have all the scsi tapestry compiled in?
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCNEXTWRITEABLEADDR): Input/output error

2006-06-24 Thread Vlad GURDIGA

Hello,

I get this error when I try to write (under root) a CD-RW or CD-R as
is found in handbook:

besa# burncd data FC-5-i386-disc1.iso fixate
burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCNEXTWRITEABLEADDR): Input/output error

Here are my (SMP) system details:

besa# uname -a
FreeBSD besa.org 6.1-STABLE FreeBSD 6.1-STABLE #24: Thu Jun 22
21:36:23 EEST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/besa
i386

besa# dmesg | grep acd
acd0: DVDR ASUS DRW-1608P2S/1.37 at ata1-master UDMA66
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TRACK_INFO ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00
acd0: FAILURE - READ_TRACK_INFO ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x24 ascq=0x00


Is there any way to make it work?
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Modifieng source

2006-06-24 Thread John Andrewartha
Hi and once again thanks,

I have nearly solved the usb modem problem.
Checking around I find OpenBSD have a fix, I need to enter a little more 
usb_quirks.c ...

To date I have added the entry
{ USB_VENDOR_CMOTECH, USB_PRODUCT_CMOTECH_CM5100P,
ANY, {UQ_ASSUME_CM_OVER_DATA}},

which is the same as OpenBSD use and recomend.

When I do a make it breakes with the following errors
initialization element in constant
( near initialization for usb_quirks [33] quirks

Obviously I am doing some thing wrong.  What. Help Please.

My programming days are so fare behind me that there are relics undergoing 
fosilisation.

Cheers John

PS Solve this and we may have a solution to thos 3G cards that Telstra sell.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


i can't type chinese words in opera since i upgraded it to 9.x

2006-06-24 Thread lveax

i use fcitx...

can anyone help me?

$ uname -srm
FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE i386
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


squid response

2006-06-24 Thread Imran Imtiaz

I wanna ask does squid queue the requests if there are to many already to serve 
cause I've slow internet connection and sometimes where there is to much load 
the I can't see the requests coming from my computer being served by hit I've 
seen this from access.log of squid. Is there a way to improve this thing we can 
have threading in this case or something else to server ?

regards
imran
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Stuttery Video Playback

2006-06-24 Thread Simon Morgan
Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope!

Ok, so I'm having real trouble playing videos under either FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
Playback on OpenBSD is really choppy/stuttery, FreeBSD is a lot better but still
enough to be annoying. I only have access to a FreeBSD installation right now so
I'll stick with that.

It's worth mentioning that the machine in question is more than up to the task
of playing video:

CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ (1658.54-MHz 686-class CPU)
real memory  = 1073725440 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041784832 (993 MB)

This is backed up by the fact that I don't get this problem under Linux.

The closest I can come to a test case is running:

  dd if=/dev/urandom of=blah

while a video is playing. Under FreeBSD this causes the video to freeze for a
second and the dropped frame counter to increase by a varying number of frames.
Linux, however, just keeps ticking along nicely.

I've tried swapping the video card between an ATI 9200 and NVIDIA GeForce 4 and
swapping the sound card between a VIA VT8235 and a CMedia CMI8738 but neither
helped.

I'm pretty sure that nobody that reads this will be able to reproduce this
problem but at least it means I have a way of easily testing things if somebody
is kind enough to help me try and resolve this problem.

Thanks for your time.

-- 
One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: squid response

2006-06-24 Thread Chuck Swiger

Imran Imtiaz wrote:

I wanna ask does squid queue the requests if there are to many already to
serve cause I've slow internet connection and sometimes where there is to
much load the I can't see the requests coming from my computer being served
by hit I've seen this from access.log of squid. Is there a way to improve
this thing we can have threading in this case or something else to server ?


Squid will serve many requests in parallel, but it is using select() rather 
than explicit multithreading.  If you've provided enough RAM and disk space to 
Squid, it ought to improve the performance you get over a slow link by a 
decent amount (20-50% is not uncommon), but you have to tune it appropriately 
to get the best results...


It's also not uncommon for sites which use a lot of dynamic advertising to 
prevent downloading in parallel from working as it should, and you'll see the 
page hang download some ad image...


--
-Chuck
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Stuttery Video Playback

2006-06-24 Thread Anthony Agelastos
I assume it is a DVD that is causing you grief. When you built  
MPlayer (I assumed that based on whom you sent this email), what make  
arguments did you pass? Since you built it, have you portupgraded?  
What I am trying to get at is I don't think your MPlayer installation  
is optimized. As an example, in my /ust/local/etc/pkgtools.conf file,  
I have the following MAKE_ARGS for mplayer:


'multimedia/mplayer' = [
  'WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=yes',
  'WITHOUT_RUNTIME_CPUDETECTION=yes',
  'WITH_KERN_HZ=512',
  'WITH_DVD_DEVICE=/dev/acd0',
  'WITH_CDROM_DEVICE=/dev/acd1',
  'WITH_CDPARANOIA=yes',
  'WITH_LIBCACA=yes',
  'WITH_MAD=yes',
  'WITH_THEORA=yes',
  'WITH_AALIB=yes',
  'WITH_THEORA=yes',
  'WITH_TREMOR=yes',
  'WITH_SDL=yes',
  'WITHOUT_ESOUND=yes',
  'WITH_VORBIS=yes',
  'WITH_REALPLAYER=yes',
  'WITH_XANIM=yes',
  'WITH_LIVEMEDIA=yes',
  'WITH_MATROSKA=yes',
  'WITH_XVID=yes',
  'WITH_LZO=yes',
  'WITH_XMMS=yes',
  'WITH_DTS=yes',
],

Those top three make args are what allows my PIII 450 MHz machine to  
play a DVD just fine. With those in their proper place in  
pkgtools.conf (near the bottom in the MAKE_ARGS section), you can  
portinstall or portupgrade mplayer and it will always be built with  
those flags. I hope this helps.


On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Simon Morgan wrote:


Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope!

Ok, so I'm having real trouble playing videos under either FreeBSD  
or OpenBSD.
Playback on OpenBSD is really choppy/stuttery, FreeBSD is a lot  
better but still
enough to be annoying. I only have access to a FreeBSD installation  
right now so

I'll stick with that.

It's worth mentioning that the machine in question is more than up  
to the task

of playing video:

CPU: AMD Athlon(TM) XP 2000+ (1658.54-MHz 686-class CPU)
real memory  = 1073725440 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041784832 (993 MB)

This is backed up by the fact that I don't get this problem under  
Linux.


The closest I can come to a test case is running:

  dd if=/dev/urandom of=blah

while a video is playing. Under FreeBSD this causes the video to  
freeze for a
second and the dropped frame counter to increase by a varying  
number of frames.

Linux, however, just keeps ticking along nicely.

I've tried swapping the video card between an ATI 9200 and NVIDIA  
GeForce 4 and
swapping the sound card between a VIA VT8235 and a CMedia CMI8738  
but neither

helped.

I'm pretty sure that nobody that reads this will be able to  
reproduce this
problem but at least it means I have a way of easily testing things  
if somebody

is kind enough to help me try and resolve this problem.

Thanks for your time.

--
One man's theology is another man's belly laugh.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Glib1 vs Glib2

2006-06-24 Thread Norberto Meijome
hi all,
I am having some problems when installing ports that use GLIB 1.x , and I
*also* have glib 2.x installed. I have, of course, packages that need 2.x.

when building the pkgs that need glib 1.x (pretty much any package) i get:
[]
checking for glib-config... /usr/local/bin/glib12-config
checking for GLIB - version = 1.2.0...
*** 'glib-config --version' returned 1.2.10, but GLIB (2.10.3)
*** was found! If glib-config was correct, then it is best
*** to remove the old version of GLIB. You may also be able to fix the error
*** by modifying your LD_LIBRARY_PATH enviroment variable, or by editing
*** /etc/ld.so.conf. Make sure you have run ldconfig if that is
*** required on your system.
*** If glib-config was wrong, set the environment variable GLIB_CONFIG
*** to point to the correct copy of glib-config, and remove the file
config.cache *** before re-running configure
no
configure: error: glib test failed
[...]

The way i read this is that the build process gets an answer from glib-config
(glib 1.x), but then it detects version 2.
via the pkg system and bails out.

I haven't been able to figure out how to use the GLIB_CONFIG variable
properly,as the glib-config file it's finding *IS* the correct one
( glib-config does not exist in 2.x).

Is the only alternative to uninstall glib2. while i'm building pkgs that need
glib1 ? 

thanks in advance,
Beto
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Support for Atheros 5414 chipset

2006-06-24 Thread Erik Nørgaard
Hi:

I was looking at a 3Com WNIC (3CRDAG675B) and it turns out it's based on
an Atheros 5414 chipset. According to the ath manpage, only cards based
on 5212 chipset family is supported.

Anyone knows if the driver also supports the newer chipset but manpage
is outdated? or if another driver is available?

I found a previous post on the hardware list archive from February but
no one had responded.

Thanks, Erik
-- 
Ph: +34.666334818  web: http://www.locolomo.org
X.509 Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/8D03551FFCE04F0C.crt
Key ID: 69:79:B8:2C:E3:8F:E7:BE:5D:C3:C3:B1:74:62:B8:3F:9F:1F:69:B9


smime.p7s
Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature


E-Mail bloqueado por segurança

2006-06-24 Thread sms . gateway
SMSGateway
A Política de Proteção contra Vírus e Spam´s do Ministério da Saúde bloqueou e 
substituiu este e-mail.

Foram detectadas as seguintes violações:

Connection From: 200.214.130.50
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:31:10 -0300
Subject: massas!

--- Scan information follows ---

Virus Name: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
File Attachment: carros!.zip
Attachment Status: deleted

--- File name Block information follows ---

File Attachment: carros!.zip
Matching file name: Message is considered to be a mass-mailer.


The message was dropped.


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Freebsd 6.1 Samba 3 as a PDC not using ldap

2006-06-24 Thread Atom Powers

On 6/23/06, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/24/06, Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

 I am looking for help with running SAMBA 3 as a PDC on Freebsd 6.1

Samba 3 can not run as a PDC, only Samba 4 can do that,
but it hasn't been released yet.


Incorrect.
Samba 3 is perfectly suitable as a NT4 style PDC.
Unless you meant that it can not run as an Active Directory domain
controller, which would be correct; but even WinXP Pro is happy as a
domain member of an NT4 style domain. The only things you don't get
are enhanced user, machine policy configurations; but even that isn't
too hard to fake with the WinXP Resource Kit.

--
--
Perfection is just a word I use occasionally with mustard.
--Atom Powers--
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


howto convert Linux shared libraries foo.so to FreeBSD shared libraries

2006-06-24 Thread Simeon Nifos
Does anybody know how to convert a shared object
compiled in Linux foo-linux.so to a shared object
compiled for FreeBSD freebsd-foo.so? I mean
a freebsd-foo.so to which I can link with objects
compiled by a native FreeBSD compiler. Or
equivalently how to create a FreeBSD foo.so from
a linux foo.so which would be identical to that
which would be compiled from source in FreeBSD?

I do not need to run a Linux binary. What I need to 
do is to link my object (.o) files compiled natively
in FreeBSD with a foo.so which is a linux library.

Thanks in advance!
Simeon.

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


ISL 3890 PRISM GT driver support on FreeBSD 6.1

2006-06-24 Thread Saifi
Hi:

Is there support for ISL 3890 PRISM GT chipset in FreeBSD ?

If no, where can I download the driver for the same ?
Either sources or binary is fine.

Thanks in advance.

thanks
Saifi.


TWINCLING Society
http://www.twincling.org/


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Error Message with Procmail

2006-06-24 Thread Gerard E. Seibert
I just installed 'procmail' onto my FSBD 6.1 stable system. The following 
error message keeps appearing on screen at what appears random intervals. 
This one appeared as I booted up the system.


Jun 24 11:41:14 seibercom procmail[749]: default rcfile is not an absolute 
path for uid 1002


I am not sure what it means or how to correct it. Everything appears to be 
working correctly.


--
Gerard Seibert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: help with 'tar|rsh tar'

2006-06-24 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/23/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/23/06, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the last episode (Jun 23), Nikolas Britton said:
  I need to backup the /data directory on hostA to /data on hostB,
  about 1TB of data on a gigabit link. Right now I'm using scp but the
  handshake latency and ssh overhead is killing me.
 
  I've looked at many examples of tar|rsh tar and I can't figure it out,
  most of the examples on the net look like this:
  # tar cf - . | rsh hostname dd of=tape-device obs=20b
  # tar -cf -...|rsh ...tar xf -...

 Two quick options even more lightweight than rsh are netcat (base
 system) and ttcp (in ports).  Usage examples:

 host2$ ttcp -r | tar xvf -
 host1$ tar cf - . | ttcp -t host2

 host2$ nc -l 1234 | tar xvf -
 host1$ tar cf - . | nc host2 1234


Thanks!, but I got rsh going. I first had to edit /etc/hosts.equiv,
after that I figured it out:

tar cf - . | rsh 192.168.1.242 'cd /data; tar xpvf -'

I was thinking tar -f as in file.tar but it's not, you have to cd into
the source directory you want to copy... anyways... I'm getting around
30MB/s now... it should be in the 50-60MB/s range... Good enough for
now though. Thanks again...



hostA = P4 3GHz Prescott, Intel 82547EI GigE, FreeBSD 6.1/i386.
hostB = Athlon64 3000, Marvell Yukon Lite GigE, FreeBSD 6.1/amd64.

Anyone know why load is so high on hostA, is it because I used tar -v?
top shows:

hostA:
--
last pid: 21138;  load averages:  1.62,  1.34,  1.27
up 25+04:06:44  10:35:54
65 processes:  2 running, 63 sleeping
CPU states:  0.0% user,  1.5% nice, 26.2% system, 61.4% interrupt, 10.9% idle
Mem: 189M Active, 573M Inact, 178M Wired, 51M Cache, 111M Buf, 1652K Free
Swap: 6144M Total, 1012K Used, 6143M Free

 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
18698 nbritton1 130   20  1292K   832K RUN171:46 28.12% rsh
18696 nbritton1  -4  -20  1588K  1068K getblk  48:25  6.88% bsdtar


hostB:
--
last pid:  9169;  load averages:  0.66,  0.65,  0.60
 up 0+15:57:38  15:44:02
32 processes:  1 running, 31 sleeping
CPU states:  2.6% user,  0.0% nice, 12.4% system, 36.1% interrupt, 48.9% idle
Mem: 26M Active, 126M Inact, 51M Wired, 13M Cache, 34M Buf, 644K Free
Swap: 483M Total, 480K Used, 482M Free, 8K In

 PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
7445 nbritton1   4  -15  8112K  3288K sbwait 133:50  9.57% bsdtar



--
BSD Podcasts @:
http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/
http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Hot-Swapping hard drives on Dell PowerEdge 2850 running FBSD 5.5-PRE

2006-06-24 Thread Joao Barros

On 6/24/06, Alex Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/23/06, Joao Barros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/23/06, Alex Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The controller is a Perc 4e/Di as assumed, and I'm still a little
  unsure as to whether the 2 drives that shipped with the machine are
  currently set up in a RAID array. The current filesystem is mounted on
  /dev/amrd0s1[a-f] and I would expect to find the new drives named
  similarly after using some useful utility that I'm unaware of. Any
  thoughts?
 
  Thanks again.
  Alex

 Try amrstat from ports which will show you something like this:

 Logical volume 0optimal (101.60 GB, RAID5)
 Physical drive 0:0  online
 Physical drive 0:1  online
 Physical drive 1:0  online
 Physical drive 1:2  online
 Physical drive 1:4  hotspare


 --
 Joao Barros


Sadly, amrstat-20060414 doesn't build on FBSD 6.0 or earlier (or so
says the error msg I get when trying to build it). I've got megarc
installed but have no idea how to use it and no man page was included
with the port.

Anyone more familiar with this utility?

Alex



For what you need to know this should be enough:

#megarc -dispCfg -a0


   **
 MEGARC MegaRAID Configuration Utility(FreeBSD)-1.04(03-02-2005)
 By LSI Logic Corp.,USA
   **
 [Note: For SATA-2, 4 and 6 channel controllers, please specify
 Ch=0 Id=0..15 for specifying physical drive(Ch=channel, Id=Target)]

   Type ? as command line arg for help


   Finding Devices On Each MegaRAID Adapter...
   Scanning Ha 0, Chnl 1 Target 15


   **
 Existing Logical Drive Information
 By LSI Logic Corp.,USA
   **
 [Note: For SATA-2, 4 and 6 channel controllers, please specify
 Ch=0 Id=0..15 for specifying physical drive(Ch=channel, Id=Target)]


 Logical Drive : 0( Adapter: 0 ):  Status: OPTIMAL
   ---
   SpanDepth :01 RaidLevel: 5  RdAhead : Adaptive  Cache: DirectIo
   StripSz   :064KB   Stripes  : 4  WrPolicy: WriteThru

   Logical Drive 0 : SpanLevel_0 Disks
   Chnl  Target  StartBlock   Blocks  Physical Target Status
     --  --   --  --
   0  010x   0x043bc000   ONLINE
   0  000x   0x043bc000   ONLINE
   1  000x   0x043bc000   ONLINE
   1  020x   0x043bc000   ONLINE

   HotSpare Disk at Channel No. 1 and ID No. 4

Contrary to what megarc says, it's -h not -? for help.
Hope this helps.

--
Joao Barros
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: howto convert Linux shared libraries foo.so to FreeBSD shared libraries

2006-06-24 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 24), Simeon Nifos said:
 Does anybody know how to convert a shared object compiled in Linux
 foo-linux.so to a shared object compiled for FreeBSD freebsd-foo.so?
 I mean a freebsd-foo.so to which I can link with objects compiled by
 a native FreeBSD compiler. Or equivalently how to create a FreeBSD
 foo.so from a linux foo.so which would be identical to that which
 would be compiled from source in FreeBSD?

I don't think either of these are possible because internal library
structures (the size of off_t, or the field sizes and ordering of
struct stat or FILE, for example) are different.  Any converter would
have to decompile the code into C (impossible in practice) and
recompile it at a FreeBSD binary.
 
 I do not need to run a Linux binary. What I need to do is to link my
 object (.o) files compiled natively in FreeBSD with a foo.so which is
 a linux library.

Take a look at the www/linuxpluginwrapper port, which creates wrapper
libraries that convert Linux function calls to FreeBSD ones.  You then
use libmap.conf to substitute these libraries for any ones called by
the Linux shared library.  Depending on what your library's API looks
like, and what external functions it calls, you might be able to get it
to work.

The correct solution would be to ask your vendor for either a FreeBSD
shared library, or the source :)

-- 
Dan Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


bug in systat: ifstat?

2006-06-24 Thread Nikolas Britton

Look at the Totals column (gmail may wrap it):

   /0   /1   /2   /3   /4   /5   /6   /7   /8   /9   /10
Load Average   

 Interface   Traffic   PeakTotal


   lo0  in  0.000 KB/s  0.000 KB/s9.446 KB
out 0.000 KB/s  0.000 KB/s9.446 KB

   sk0  in 29.485 MB/s 34.525 MB/s 9681495918456.000 b
out   753.799 KB/s889.657 KB/s   29.710 GB


--
BSD Podcasts @:
http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/
http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Stale Dependencies ??????

2006-06-24 Thread Robert Davison
I've recently had a few problems with KDE 3.5.1, so recently upgraded to 3.5.3 
via the ports. I have a port upgrade script which is producing the following 
output when executed.

Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 -- openldap-client-2.2.30 -- manually run 
'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force.
now upgrading the required ports
Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 -- openldap-client-2.2.30 -- manually run 
'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force.

Could someone please explain what is happening here. If I run pkgdb -F I get 
the following output (pressing enter to accept the default)

luey# pkgdb -F
---  Checking the package registry database
Stale origin: 'devel/gnu-libtool': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
- The port 'devel/gnu-libtool' was removed on 2006-06-05 because:
Has expired: devel/libtool15 is now stock and should be used instead
- Hint:  gnu-libtool-1.5.20 is required by the following package(s):
kdevelop-3.3.1_1
- Hint: checking for overwritten files...
 - No files installed by gnu-libtool-1.5.20 have been overwritten by other 
packages.
Deinstall gnu-libtool-1.5.20 ? [no]
Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 - openldap-client-2.2.30 
(net/openldap22-client):
openldap-client-2.3.24 (score:76%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
Stale dependency: kde-3.5.3 - libexif-0.6.13 (graphics/libexif):
libxslt-1.1.17 (score:17%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
Stale dependency: kde-3.5.3 - poppler-0.5.3 (graphics/poppler):
popt-1.7_1 (score:18%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
Stale dependency: kde-3.5.3 - poppler-qt-0.5.3 (graphics/poppler-qt):
popt-1.7_1 (score:18%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
New dependency? (? to help):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Skipped.
Stale dependency: kdeartwork-3.5.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30 
(net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

Stale dependency: kdesdk-3.5.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30 
(net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] Stale dependency: kdeutils-3.5.1_1 - 
openldap-client-2.2.30 (net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Stale dependency: kdevelop-3.3.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30 
(net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Stale dependency: libgsf-1.14.1 - openldap-client-2.2.30 
(net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

Stale dependency: samba-libsmbclient-3.0.22 - openldap-client-2.2.30 
(net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
Stale dependency: wv2-0.2.2_3 - openldap-client-2.2.30 (net/openldap22-client):
Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]




-
 All new Yahoo! Mail The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease 
of use. - PC Magazine
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: help with 'tar|rsh tar'

2006-06-24 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 24), Nikolas Britton said:
 On 6/23/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks!, but I got rsh going. I first had to edit /etc/hosts.equiv,
  after that I figured it out:
 
  tar cf - . | rsh 192.168.1.242 'cd /data; tar xpvf -'
 
  I was thinking tar -f as in file.tar but it's not, you have to cd
  into the source directory you want to copy... anyways... I'm
  getting around 30MB/s now... it should be in the 50-60MB/s range...
  Good enough for now though. Thanks again...
 
 
 hostA = P4 3GHz Prescott, Intel 82547EI GigE, FreeBSD 6.1/i386.
 hostB = Athlon64 3000, Marvell Yukon Lite GigE, FreeBSD 6.1/amd64.
 
 Anyone know why load is so high on hostA, is it because I used tar -v?
 top shows:

 CPU states:  0.0% user,  1.5% nice, 26.2% system, 61.4% interrupt, 10.9%  idle

That 61% interrupt looks bad, but I don't have any ideas.

  PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 18698 nbritton1 130   20  1292K   832K RUN171:46 28.12% rsh
 18696 nbritton1  -4  -20  1588K  1068K getblk  48:25  6.88% bsdtar

Try raising the blocksize in tar.  The default is 10K.  This bumps it
to 64K:

 tar cbf 128 - . | ...

-- 
Dan Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Stale Dependencies ??????

2006-06-24 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday 24 June 2006 12:27, Robert Davison wrote:
 I've recently had a few problems with KDE 3.5.1, so recently upgraded to
 3.5.3 via the ports. I have a port upgrade script which is producing the
 following output when executed.

 Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 -- openldap-client-2.2.30 -- manually
 run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. now upgrading the required
 ports
 Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 -- openldap-client-2.2.30 -- manually
 run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force.

 Could someone please explain what is happening here. If I run pkgdb -F I
 get the following output (pressing enter to accept the default)

 luey# pkgdb -F
 ---  Checking the package registry database
 Stale origin: 'devel/gnu-libtool': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
 - The port 'devel/gnu-libtool' was removed on 2006-06-05 because:
 Has expired: devel/libtool15 is now stock and should be used
 instead - Hint:  gnu-libtool-1.5.20 is required by the following
 package(s): kdevelop-3.3.1_1
 - Hint: checking for overwritten files...
  - No files installed by gnu-libtool-1.5.20 have been overwritten by other
 packages. Deinstall gnu-libtool-1.5.20 ? [no]

You should be able to answer YES to this question.

 Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): openldap-client-2.3.24 (score:76%) ?
 ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
 New dependency? (? to help):
 Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Skipped.
 Stale dependency: kde-3.5.3 - libexif-0.6.13 (graphics/libexif):
 libxslt-1.1.17 (score:17%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
 New dependency? (? to help):
 Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Skipped.
 Stale dependency: kde-3.5.3 - poppler-0.5.3 (graphics/poppler):
 popt-1.7_1 (score:18%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
 New dependency? (? to help):
 Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Skipped.
 Stale dependency: kde-3.5.3 - poppler-qt-0.5.3 (graphics/poppler-qt):
 popt-1.7_1 (score:18%) ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [no]
 New dependency? (? to help):
 Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Skipped.
 Stale dependency: kdeartwork-3.5.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

 Stale dependency: kdesdk-3.5.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes] Stale
 dependency: kdeutils-3.5.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Stale dependency: kdevelop-3.3.1_1 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Stale dependency: libgsf-1.14.1 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

 Stale dependency: samba-libsmbclient-3.0.22 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 Stale dependency: wv2-0.2.2_3 - openldap-client-2.2.30
 (net/openldap22-client): Skip this? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

Try running:

pkgdb --autofix

That should take care of the easily fixed dependency problems.

-- 
Gerard Seibert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Encyclopedia for sale by father.
Son knows everything.


pgpBwzGhREP2k.pgp
Description: PGP signature


Re: Stale Dependencies ??????

2006-06-24 Thread vayu


On Jun 24, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:


On Saturday 24 June 2006 12:27, Robert Davison wrote:
I've recently had a few problems with KDE 3.5.1, so recently  
upgraded to
3.5.3 via the ports. I have a port upgrade script which is  
producing the

following output when executed.

Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 -- openldap-client-2.2.30 --  
manually
run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force. now upgrading the  
required

ports
Stale dependency: gconf2-2.14.0_2 -- openldap-client-2.2.30 --  
manually

run 'pkgdb -F' to fix, or specify -O to force.

Could someone please explain what is happening here. If I run  
pkgdb -F I

get the following output (pressing enter to accept the default)




I've had the hardest time understanding what pkgdb asks.  This is the  
only article I've found which makes some sense to me:


http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html?page=1


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Initial FSBD Installation

2006-06-24 Thread Gerard Seibert
This is probably a dumb question, but I never let that stop me before.

If I were to to download the 6.1-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso from 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/ would that 
installation include the Sendmail fix as well as the one 
regarding emulators/linux_base-*, etc. or would IO have to deal with that 
issue after installing FSBD.

20060616:
  AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-*
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding
  xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port.

  To upgrade you have to run
portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\*
portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs


Would running the stock /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile be the 
best way to update the system after installing the OS or should I use the 
standard-supfile instead.

I am going to be installing this on a friends computer who has never run FSBD 
before, and I want to be certain that I get it right.

-- 
Gerard Seibert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


The difficult we do today; the impossible takes a little longer.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Freebsd 6.1 Samba 3 as a PDC not using ldap

2006-06-24 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 6/24/06, Atom Powers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 6/23/06, Andrew Pantyukhin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 6/24/06, Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello
 
  I am looking for help with running SAMBA 3 as a PDC on Freebsd 6.1

 Samba 3 can not run as a PDC, only Samba 4 can do that,
 but it hasn't been released yet.

Incorrect.
Samba 3 is perfectly suitable as a NT4 style PDC.
Unless you meant that it can not run as an Active Directory domain
controller, which would be correct; but even WinXP Pro is happy as a
domain member of an NT4 style domain. The only things you don't get
are enhanced user, machine policy configurations; but even that isn't
too hard to fake with the WinXP Resource Kit.


Sorry. You're right of course.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Initial FSBD Installation

2006-06-24 Thread Eric

Gerard Seibert wrote:

This is probably a dumb question, but I never let that stop me before.

If I were to to download the 6.1-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso from 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/ would that 
installation include the Sendmail fix as well as the one 
regarding emulators/linux_base-*, etc. or would IO have to deal with that 
issue after installing FSBD.


20060616:
  AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-*
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding
  xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port.

  To upgrade you have to run
portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\*
portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs


Would running the stock /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile be the 
best way to update the system after installing the OS or should I use the 
standard-supfile instead.


I am going to be installing this on a friends computer who has never run FSBD 
before, and I want to be certain that I get it right.


  
for the base security updates, assuming you use the GENERIC kernel, you 
can use freebsd-update. it works very well.

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Display: Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950

2006-06-24 Thread Andrew Pantyukhin

On 6/23/06, dw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello,

We are about to buy new Thinkpads (T60's), and will be running FreeBSD
5.5 or 6.2 (probably 6.2) on them.

The ones I've spec'd out have the the Intel Graphics Media Accelerator
950 as its video adapter -- does anybody have any input on these? Will
they work? I'd hate to have 7 new thinkpads show up and find out that we
can't run X because of this.

There are similar T60's available that ship w/ ATI Mobility Radeon X1300
cards, but they all seem to be heavier and shorter on battery life, and
the other folks here put battery life and weight as the #1 items on
their wish lists before I started to spec them out, so that leans me
towards the ones with the Intel graphics card.


This is what Google says:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_950

Looks like xorg does it all for you.

OTOH I remember my friend moaning about problems with
newer intel graphics and Solaris 10. I hope that's not relevant.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Initial FSBD Installation

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:15:36 -0400 Gerard Seibert wrote:

 This is probably a dumb question, but I never let that stop me before.

 If I were to to download the 6.1-RELEASE-i386-bootonly.iso from 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/ISO-IMAGES/6.1/ would that 
 installation include the Sendmail fix as well as the one 
 regarding emulators/linux_base-*, etc. or would IO have to deal with that 
 issue after installing FSBD.

I never used bootonly CD but I'd say from it's name that it may be
useful only to boot the system and, say, repare something if a system
can't boot itself.

All RELEASE CDs are made when a RELEASE occures. They never got
re-rolled.
You may consider installing the system from full RELEASE CD

 20060616:
   AFFECTS users of emulation/linux_base-*
   AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   We now use Fedora Core 4 as the linux base port, and the corresponding
   xorg libs for the linux X11 libs port.

   To upgrade you have to run
 portupgrade -f -o emulators/linux_base-fc4 linux_base\*
 portupgrade -f -o x11/linux-xorg-libs linux-XFree86-libs

This change is not related to FreeBSD base system. It's a ports one.
You should upgrade (cvsup or like) ports to get the current ports
tree (use ports-supfile).

 Would running the stock /usr/src/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile be the 
 best way to update the system after installing the OS or should I use the 
 standard-supfile instead.

This file is useful to track FreeBSD-STABLE version. But you should
understand how to define the tag option. I'd recommend you using
RELENG_6_1. It's a RELEASE + SECURITY patches branch. When you have
some more skills to determine if you need a STABLE branch, you'll use
RELENG_6 tag.

 I am going to be installing this on a friends computer who has never run FSBD 
 before, and I want to be certain that I get it right.

If it's a new installation and you want to use -release base system
and security patches (so called -security branch). The process I may
recommend for this:

- fetch RELEASE-6 CD;
- install the system (minimal);
- boot from the hard disk;
- use sysinstall to get the sources and ports;
- install cvsup from packages;
- use cvsup-stable with RELENG_6_1 tag to update the sources;
- build and install world and kernel + use mergemaster;
- reboot;
- use cvsup-ports to update the ports tree;
- compile and install needed ports.

Some notes:

o  consider reading the Handbook:
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html
   It's not a short one but helps a lot.

o  there are _many_ other ways to do almost everything (i.e. install
   ports from pre-build packages but not compile it yourself and
   much more);

o  read /usr/src/UPDATING and /usr/ports/UPDATING;

o  do not install default linux_base port by hand but install the
   needed port (i.e. acrobat reader), in most cases the port itself
   should choose other ports it depends on;

o  try not to do everything blindly as for the docs but try to
   understand what are you doing, try to imagine the result before
   acting and after the work is done, compare what you get to that you
   expected and then consider redoing what you've done if don't
   achieve the goal;

o  you will need much spare time and much to learn, we will give
   you advices, reference to TFM and our knowledge...


Hope, that may help you.


WBR
-- 
Boris B. Samorodov, Research Engineer
InPharmTech Co, http://www.ipt.ru
Telephone  Internet Service Provider
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: help with 'tar|rsh tar'

2006-06-24 Thread Nikolas Britton

On 6/24/06, Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the last episode (Jun 24), Nikolas Britton said:
 On 6/23/06, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks!, but I got rsh going. I first had to edit /etc/hosts.equiv,
  after that I figured it out:
 
  tar cf - . | rsh 192.168.1.242 'cd /data; tar xpvf -'
 
  I was thinking tar -f as in file.tar but it's not, you have to cd
  into the source directory you want to copy... anyways... I'm
  getting around 30MB/s now... it should be in the 50-60MB/s range...
  Good enough for now though. Thanks again...
 

 hostA = P4 3GHz Prescott, Intel 82547EI GigE, FreeBSD 6.1/i386.
 hostB = Athlon64 3000, Marvell Yukon Lite GigE, FreeBSD 6.1/amd64.

 Anyone know why load is so high on hostA, is it because I used tar -v?
 top shows:

 CPU states:  0.0% user,  1.5% nice, 26.2% system, 61.4% interrupt, 10.9%  idle

That 61% interrupt looks bad, but I don't have any ideas.

  PID USERNAME  THR PRI NICE   SIZERES STATETIME   WCPU COMMAND
 18698 nbritton1 130   20  1292K   832K RUN171:46 28.12% rsh
 18696 nbritton1  -4  -20  1588K  1068K getblk  48:25  6.88% bsdtar

Try raising the blocksize in tar.  The default is 10K.  This bumps it
to 64K:

 tar cbf 128 - . | ...




Using: tar cbf 256 - . | rsh ... tar xpbf 64 -
Looks like that fixed the problems on hostA because hostB is now the
problem. The GigE and RAID controller on hostB both sit on the same
33MHz/32-bit PCI bus (Asus A8R-MVP)... and that doesn't help... but
those numbers should be closer to 50MB/s (((33x32)/10)/2 = 52.8MB/s).

hostA:
Load  0.62  0.58  0.58
42.4%Sys  18.3%Intr  4.9%User  0.0%Nice 34.3%Idl
Disks   ad0   da0
KB/t   0.00   124
tps   0   257
MB/s   0.00 31.20
% busy030

hostB:
Load  0.59  0.80  0.80
17.4%Sys  54.4%Intr  0.8%User  0.0%Nice 27.4%Idl
Disks   ad0   da0
KB/t   0.00   122
tps   0   255
MB/s   0.00 30.43
% busy092 ---


Thanks again!
--
BSD Podcasts @:
http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/
http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


BTX halted

2006-06-24 Thread horn
I install FreeBSD 5.3 from floppy-diskets. After a choice of loading(default, 
safe_mode,etc) there is a error:

int=000e  err=  efl=00010083  eip=95ca
eax=c101ffb8  ebx=c101ffb0  ecx=8c10  edx=ff02
esi=ffef  edi=1952  ebp=c1021d60  esp=c101ffa0
cs=0008  ds=0010  es=0010fs=0010  gs=0010  ss=0010
cs:eip=ac e8 46 00 00 00 fe c9-74 0c b0 2d 80 f9 08 74
   02 b0 20 aa eb ea fe ca-74 0e b0 0a aa b1 07 b0
ss:esp=10 00 00 00 68 97 00 00-db 91 00 00 00 18 00 00
   ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
BTX halted

On it all stops. What to do?
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: BTX halted

2006-06-24 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:42:42 +0400 horn wrote:

 I install FreeBSD 5.3 from floppy-diskets. After a choice of loading(default, 
 safe_mode,etc) there is a error:

 int=000e  err=  efl=00010083  eip=95ca
 eax=c101ffb8  ebx=c101ffb0  ecx=8c10  edx=ff02
 esi=ffef  edi=1952  ebp=c1021d60  esp=c101ffa0
 cs=0008  ds=0010  es=0010fs=0010  gs=0010  ss=0010
 cs:eip=ac e8 46 00 00 00 fe c9-74 0c b0 2d 80 f9 08 74
02 b0 20 aa eb ea fe ca-74 0e b0 0a aa b1 07 b0
 ss:esp=10 00 00 00 68 97 00 00-db 91 00 00 00 18 00 00
ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
 BTX halted

 On it all stops. What to do?

Try to use FreeBSD-5.5 or FreeBSD-6.1 (better).


WBR
-- 
Boris B. Samorodov, Research Engineer
InPharmTech Co, http://www.ipt.ru
Telephone  Internet Service Provider
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Serial Communication

2006-06-24 Thread Bryan
I have an old TCL/TK Script That I wrote several years ago that sends 
data out of a serial port into a Radio Shack Pro-64 scanner. The program 
basically programs the scanner with frequencies to listen to.


I cant figure out how to make it work in FreeBSD. The port must be 
configured as follows


COM1: 2400, 8, N, 1

The actual snippet of code that writes out to the port looks like this:

cat dload.txt  /dev/prd64

where /dev/pro64 was a device (com port configured as above)I had 
created (somehow) for the linux box I had at the time.


The handbook reading did not provide enough detail for me to get the 
port configured and working. The port does not need anything to be 
recognized coming in since the operation is outbound only. Software or 
scanner cannot read the port anyway.


Can anyone give me a primer or some help to get going?

Thank You.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Serial Communication

2006-06-24 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

stty  speed 2400 -hup cs8 -parenb -clocal  -f /dev/ttyd0
cat dload.txt  /dev/ttyd0

also the scanner must assert DTR when it's turned on.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Serial Communication


 I have an old TCL/TK Script That I wrote several years ago that sends
 data out of a serial port into a Radio Shack Pro-64 scanner. The program
 basically programs the scanner with frequencies to listen to.

 I cant figure out how to make it work in FreeBSD. The port must be
 configured as follows

 COM1: 2400, 8, N, 1

 The actual snippet of code that writes out to the port looks like this:

 cat dload.txt  /dev/prd64

 where /dev/pro64 was a device (com port configured as above)I had
 created (somehow) for the linux box I had at the time.

 The handbook reading did not provide enough detail for me to get the
 port configured and working. The port does not need anything to be
 recognized coming in since the operation is outbound only. Software or
 scanner cannot read the port anyway.

 Can anyone give me a primer or some help to get going?

 Thank You.
 ___
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
 To unsubscribe, send any mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Stale Dependencies ??????

2006-06-24 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Saturday 24 June 2006 13:11, vayu wrote:
 On Jun 24, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Gerard Seibert wrote:

//snip//

 I've had the hardest time understanding what pkgdb asks.  This is the
 only article I've found which makes some sense to me:

 http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2001/11/29/Big_Scary_Daemons.html?page=1

I once had a problem on FSBD 5.4 that was so bad that I finally used 
portmanager to clean it up.

portmanager -u -f -y -l

That corrected everything. However, it did take a couple of days to rebuild 
the entire system.

Ciao!

-- 
Gerard Seibert
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Reporter, n.:
A writer who guesses his way to the truth and dispels it with a
tempest of words.

Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Serial Communication

2006-06-24 Thread Bryan

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

stty  speed 2400 -hup cs8 -parenb -clocal  -f /dev/ttyd0
cat dload.txt  /dev/ttyd0

also the scanner must assert DTR when it's turned on.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: Bryan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Serial Communication



I have an old TCL/TK Script That I wrote several years ago that sends
data out of a serial port into a Radio Shack Pro-64 scanner. The program
basically programs the scanner with frequencies to listen to.

I cant figure out how to make it work in FreeBSD. The port must be
configured as follows

COM1: 2400, 8, N, 1

The actual snippet of code that writes out to the port looks like this:

cat dload.txt  /dev/prd64

where /dev/pro64 was a device (com port configured as above)I had
created (somehow) for the linux box I had at the time.

The handbook reading did not provide enough detail for me to get the
port configured and working. The port does not need anything to be
recognized coming in since the operation is outbound only. Software or
scanner cannot read the port anyway.

Can anyone give me a primer or some help to get going?

Thank You.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Ted,
Thanks.
I got this error though.
#stty  speed 2400 -hup cs8 -parenb -clocal  -f /dev/ttyd0
38400
stty: illegal operation -- -f

Also, will the system remember this setting on reboot?
If not, how can I make it remember?
Bryan

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: FreeBSD and VMWare

2006-06-24 Thread Rico

  I have never gotten vmware to run as a program under FreeBSD, i.e. using

FreeBSD as the host for other vmware machines.  I have tried several times.
Technically, VMWare doesn't support it.

We have used FreeBSD at our company as a host for some Windows XP based 
machines running on VMWare 3 from ports. But I am not sure if that is 
exactly what you mean. It is running just fine.


Best and kind regards,
Rico
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier


I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP Proliant, 
and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a supplier in Panama 
that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...


Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional Remote Access 
Controller that will it *sounds* like will give me similar functionality 
as HPs iLO ...


But, I've heard bad things about their 'desktop offerings', and am not 
sure if that follows through to their Servers ...


So, I'm kinda looking for both good, and bad, experiences with the 
PowerEdge stuff ... anyone with opinions?


Thx ...


Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]  MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo . yscrappy   Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


problems running freebsd 6.0+

2006-06-24 Thread Tom Cruickshank

Hello,
I'm hoping is the correct mailing list for this, if not, please feel
free to direct me to a more appriopriate one.
I have a box which I'm trying to run FreeBSD on. I can run FreeBSD 5.4 on it
without any problems, but if I try run
FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1, at any point in time while the system is running (could
be on load up or when system is already loaded),
the computer just *freezes*.  The only thing which can be done afterwards is
a cold reboot. I hav checked the /var/log/messages
file and haven't been able to find anything wrong.

Hardware specs:

Motherboard: A7N8X-X

Has anyone ever had this kind of problem themselves or heard of it?

Any help would be appreicated. Thanks!

Tom Cruickshank
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread David Kelly
On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 10:03:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP
 Proliant, and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a
 supplier in Panama that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...
 
 Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional Remote
 Access Controller that will it *sounds* like will give me similar
 functionality as HPs iLO ...

Am not familiar with either, but are you sure this is hardware and not
Windows specific software?

My parents are 500 miles away, recently had a Microsoft problem out of
warranty and were put off by Dell's request for $100 to resolve the
problem. The local Professional Windows Weanie was given a chance but
failed. With lots of doubt Dell could solve it remotely they took a
chance. Was asked a few questions and asked to enable something, and
shortly the Dell tech was inside their machine remotely. Problem was
initially diagnosed and cured. Microsoft Autoupdate updated something
that broke something else in Word. Next week the problem was back.
Warranty service on the first call once again fixed the problem and
properly disabled Windows from updating what ever it was again.

They were very pleased that it only cost $100 and that it actually got
things working as they were. They have lots of experience at paying
locals $50 to $100 to make Windows work after it breaks. Often the pro
does no good. They haven't had the same problems with the 800 MHz G4
iMac I gave them new for Christmas several years ago once they got DSL
and quit using its built-in modem.

 But, I've heard bad things about their 'desktop offerings', and am not
 sure if that follows through to their Servers ...

Listen closely enough and you'll hear bad about anything, if you want to
hear bad. Dell offers product in every price class. They offer
Walmart-grade of PCs. They offer high end stuff. Dell doesn't quite make
it up to Apple or Sun standards.

 So, I'm kinda looking for both good, and bad, experiences with the 
 PowerEdge stuff ... anyone with opinions?

In my experience the Optiplex and PowerEdge lines are Dell's Good Stuff.
This FreeBSD machine is a Dell PowerEdge 400SC with one of the first HT
Pentium 4's at 2.8 GHz. Was $400 delivered. Or very little more than CPU
+ MB from other sources at the time. I got case, CD, floppy, mouse,
keyboard, 40G HD, 128MB SDRAM, build in sound and gigabit ethernet, and
8MB PCI video card thrown in. Runs FreeBSD as if it was made to.
Interesting in that Dell's diagnostic CD appears to be Linux.

-- 
David Kelly N4HHE, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Sat, 24 Jun 2006, David Kelly wrote:


On Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 10:03:42PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:


I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP
Proliant, and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a
supplier in Panama that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...

Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional Remote
Access Controller that will it *sounds* like will give me similar
functionality as HPs iLO ...


Am not familiar with either, but are you sure this is hardware and not
Windows specific software?


I'm not 100% certain, after reading the following 'article' about it from 
2002, but my feel is that the only requirement is that I run Windows IE 
to access the interface ... I know with iLO, there is nothing OS related 
that I have to install to make use of it, but I'm not certain with DRAC 
...


http://www.dell.com/content/topics/global.aspx/power/en/ps2q02_bell?c=uscs=19l=ens=dhs


Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]  MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo . yscrappy   Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP Proliant, 
 and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a supplier in Panama 
 that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...
 
 Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional Remote Access 
 Controller that will it *sounds* like will give me similar functionality 
 as HPs iLO ...
 
 But, I've heard bad things about their 'desktop offerings', and am not 
 sure if that follows through to their Servers ...
 
 So, I'm kinda looking for both good, and bad, experiences with the 
 PowerEdge stuff ... anyone with opinions?

We had about 70 sites with Dell Poweredge servers and they ran FreeBSD
just fine.   They were used for general purpose network servers and 
didn't do any desktop stuff.  They did name service, web, email, listservice,
radius dialup authentication, web proxy, etc.  The number of users on
each varied by site from a handful to a few thousand.

The only trouble was with the DAT tape drives.  Most of our sites had 
problems with the DATs.  Dell service had to replace lots of them, some more
than once.  But a couple of sites spent the extra money to buy the DLT drives 
and they worked just fine, with no problem.   It seemed to be mostly the DATs
couldn't handle the service load we put on them.

Recently one site decided to get an HP Proliant 350 just because they had
a bunch of HP machines and it has been almost the same to work with as
the Dell PowerEdge machines except the NIC driver was different and the HP
was bought with the HP LTO Ultrium tape drive which I have come to like 
a lot - it is fast.

SO, functionally, they seem to both be good and about the same.
I have never made use of the Dell (or HP for that matter) remote
diagnostic stuff.  I don't know if that is hardware or requires
some installed software.   We completely wipe and rebuild the disks
so anything Dell might put there is gone.

ps.  I have had no particular problem with any Dell desktops either, but
haven't been completely happy with the HP desktops I have encountered.
But, there haven't been many of them.

jerry

 
 Thx ...
 
 
 Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
 Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]  MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yahoo . yscrappy   Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664
 ___
 freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
 To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: problems running freebsd 6.0+

2006-06-24 Thread Subhro Kar

Tom Cruickshank wrote:

Hello,


Hello Tom,


I'm hoping is the correct mailing list for this, if not, please feel
free to direct me to a more appriopriate one.


You are on the correct mailing list :-).
I have a box which I'm trying to run FreeBSD on. I can run FreeBSD 5.4 
on it

without any problems, but if I try run
FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1, at any point in time while the system is running (could
be on load up or when system is already loaded),
the computer just *freezes*.  The only thing which can be done 
afterwards is

a cold reboot. I hav checked the /var/log/messages
file and haven't been able to find anything wrong.

Hardware specs:

Motherboard: A7N8X-X


The information you have provided is not complete. We would be requiring 
more information to understand what is going wrong. For a start can you 
show us a copy of dmesg and your kernel config file (if you are not 
running a GENERIC kernel).


Thanks and Best Regards
Subhro
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Nick Withers
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:03:42 -0300 (ADT)
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm currently weighing options ... my last two servers were HP Proliant, 
 and I *really* like them, but I might have a line on a supplier in Panama 
 that deals in Dell Servers and not HP ...
 
 Looking at Dell's web site, the PowerEdge has an optional Remote Access 
 Controller that will it *sounds* like will give me similar functionality 
 as HPs iLO ...

From my experience (this is going back a little way now) with
Dell PowerEdge 2650s with a Dell ERA II controller, the
controller was nowhere near as good as the iLO on a HP ProLiant
DL360 G3.

The Dell cards were only able to transmit text to a remote
controller, which given that at the time I was working with
Windows Server 2003 was a real pain!

The controllers also came to us with identical MAC addresses
(across thousands of machines), which was a blast...

All this having been said, however, the newer Dell controllers
are undoubtably leaps and bounds above the ERA II.

 But, I've heard bad things about their 'desktop offerings', and am not 
 sure if that follows through to their Servers ...

Funny, I've always heard (relatively) good things about their
desktops / laptops :-)

 So, I'm kinda looking for both good, and bad, experiences with the 
 PowerEdge stuff ... anyone with opinions?

I found I had really terrible support from Dell. This may just
be a Dell Australia issue, or perhaps the technicians
allocated to my employer weren't all that capable, or some
such.

I found countless problems with (for instance) the OpenManage
software with things like not showing missing HDDs under certain
circumstances (I seem to recall my main concern at the time was
that a missing hot-spare for a RAID 5 array would go totally
unnoticed / unreported in OpenManage despite being indicated on
the machine's front information display).

Having to scrub RAID volumes created with the Adaptec onboard
RAID controller (a PERC 5/Di (Dell's designation), from memory)
was a pain, too, and very lengthy (it would take around 20
hours for a 4 x 80 decimal GB disk RAID 5 set). My experience
with HP servers suggests that this process isn't required for
the cards they use, but I'll happily confess to being really
ignorant of this whole process.

I tend to think of Dell as a low-end provider that will cobble
together systems based on whatever bits happen to be lying
around (don't think that one PE 2650 is the same as the next!),
which in turn are invariably the cheapest bits available for a
particular job. I've made this sound bad - somewhat
intentionally - but there's certainly a market for cheap over
quality. I would be far less averse to chucking in Dell kit at
home - particularly if it cost significantly less than other
options - than I would be to chucking it in a big,
geographically diverse organisation with much more expensive
uptime requirements.

Hope this had been useful, sorry to go on for so long!

 Thx ...
 
 
 Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
 Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]  MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yahoo . yscrappy   Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664
-- 
Nick Withers
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.nickwithers.com
Mobile: +61 414 397 446
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Marc G. Fournier

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Nick Withers wrote:

I tend to think of Dell as a low-end provider that will cobble together 
systems based on whatever bits happen to be lying around (don't think 
that one PE 2650 is the same as the next!), which in turn are invariably 
the cheapest bits available for a particular job.


'k, this is exactly the thing that I'd heard about the Desktops ... and 
was curious about concerning their server offering ... you mention further 
up in your response that this was 'a little while back' ... how long ago, 
and can anyone here comment on whether or not this is still the case with 
Dell?


Pricing things out through the web sites, Dell is definitely the 'cheaper 
brand', at least in comparison to HP ... so will I end up getting what I 
paid for with the cheaper Dell, and regretting it, or ... ? :(






Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]  MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo . yscrappy   Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC


On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:21 PM, Nick Withers wrote:


I tend to think of Dell as a low-end provider that will cobble
together systems based on whatever bits happen to be lying
around (don't think that one PE 2650 is the same as the next!),
which in turn are invariably the cheapest bits available for a
particular job. I've made this sound bad - somewhat
intentionally - but there's certainly a market for cheap over
quality.


Just remember that Dell's business model is lower costs at all  
costs.  They have made it a science of driving costs down, mostly  
by buying subgrade parts and moving their (at least) consumer tech  
support to areas of the world that have lower costs , and people you  
cannot understand very well (I have heard better of their enterprise  
tech support).  I personally would never buy a Dell (both personal  
friends and acquaintances who have had problems as well as the more  
than average reports you hear about them) now, though 8 years ago I  
had a friend who swore by them -- he was an IT Director for a small  
company.  There is a reason that Apple's Market Cap is equal to or  
greater than Dells with a 1/4 of the revenue...


Not a technical answer.

Chad

---
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
Your Web App and Email hosting provider
chad at shire.net



___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Opinions Wanted: Dell PowerEdge Servers ... ?

2006-06-24 Thread Nick Withers
On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 01:34:45 -0300 (ADT)
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Nick Withers wrote:
 
  I tend to think of Dell as a low-end provider that will cobble together 
  systems based on whatever bits happen to be lying around (don't think 
  that one PE 2650 is the same as the next!), which in turn are invariably 
  the cheapest bits available for a particular job.
 
 'k, this is exactly the thing that I'd heard about the Desktops ... and 
 was curious about concerning their server offering ... you mention further 
 up in your response that this was 'a little while back' ... how long ago,

Around 2004 was when I got my hands the dirtiest with the
things. This was towards the end of the Dell PowerEdge 2650 run
(I think 2850s are still current...?).

 and can anyone here comment on whether or not this is still the case with 
 Dell?

I think Dell's low-cost at all costs policy is pretty well
the foundation for the business...

 Pricing things out through the web sites, Dell is definitely the 'cheaper 
 brand', at least in comparison to HP ... so will I end up getting what I 
 paid for with the cheaper Dell, and regretting it, or ... ? :(

Always a risk, isn't it?

To be honest, I'd probably consider the PowerEdge 2650 fine for
my use at home, but I wouldn't be using the remote access
controller at all and would almost certainly be using FreeBSD,
for which there isn't a version of OpenManage, to my knowledge.

As for your usage scenario I can't say, but if it's going to be
at a colocation facility and you're going to be accessing it
through whatever they're calling their ERAs at the moment...
I'd think twice. But heck, I haven't checked up on what the
price difference might be between a Dell and an equivalent from
a competitor, and I'm not at all up-to-date on current Dell
offerings.

 
 Marc G. Fournier   Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org)
 Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED]  MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Yahoo . yscrappy   Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664
-- 
Nick Withers
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web: http://www.nickwithers.com
Mobile: +61 414 397 446
___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Can I use Sil 3124 SATA2 Raid controller on FB 6.1?

2006-06-24 Thread Steve Lee
 I've been well with sil 3124 raid controller on Fedora Core, but while
changing to FreeBSD 6.1 I found it is of no use...

As I know, ata(4) supports sil 3124 sata controller, but NOT RAID
controller???

Can I use this decent-but-cheap device on any *BSD's???

Thanks,


Steve

___
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions
To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]