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Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

[Sam Lawrance]

On 27/05/2007, at 1:03 PM, Garrett Cooper wrote:


Kyrre Nygård wrote:

Hello!
Is it possible to change:
Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992,  
1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights  
reserved.

Over to:
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992,  
1993, 1994

The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
If so, how is it done?
To have `All rights reserved.' apply to both copyright statements,  
it is necessary to break it down to the next line. It would also  
look a whole lot neater, as the last number of `1994' now aligns  
with the last letter of `reserved' using a monospaced font, which  
ends up looking kind of weird. Trust me on this one.

Thank you,
Kyrre Nygård + mir-visuals.com + snoarc.no


Now why would you want to do that? That's cutting FreeBSD totally  
out of the picture, which isn't correct since they're the copyright  
owners of the FreeBSD project from 1992 to today.


I think the point is to reformat the all rights reserved statement,  
rather than remove a copyright line.


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Re: Sound and Gigabyte GA-81945P

[Matthew Seaman]

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Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:39:19PM +0300,  wrote:
 
 Hello

 I put vista in my computer and the voice didn?t work help my what can I do.

 I have motherboard ga-81945p.

 Thenks for your help.
 
 Why would you ask a FreeBSD Questions list about a problem with with
 a Microsloth product?There is no connection between FreeBSD which
 is a UNIX type operating system and Vista which is something Microsloth
 calls an operating system.
 
 I have no idea why voice would not work on Vista.
 Maybe you can find an MS list to ask.

Surely we must assume that the OP is in search of something better than
Vista, and by directing them to:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

we can state confidently that by following the instructions there, all
the OP's Vista problems will soon be a thing of the past.  The question
of whether there is good sound support for this board under FreeBSD is
moot (and hopefully not 'mute' like the malapropism one of my colleagues
recently came out with).

Cheers,

Matthew

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RE: raid or not raid

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kalin mintchev
 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:11 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: raid or not raid


  On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 06:30:06AM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:
 
  so nobody on this list knows anything about raid?
  wrong list?
 
   hi all..
  
   i have a box in a remote hosting facility that claims that
 the machine
  has
   two discs raided in it but df and fstab show only one disc with a
  bunch of
   slices.
   under devices there is another name - ad6 - but it's not mounted
  anywhere.
   the one i see both in df and the fstab is ad4 with one big slice and
   different partitions
 
  My (VIA Tech V-RAID) raid disk shows up as ar0, although the ad4 and ad6
  device nodes exist as well.
 
  Do you have the ataraid device in the kernel?

 yes. but isn;t that in by default in 5.4 GENERIC?!

   they insist there are 2 raided discs in tha machine. the os
 is 5.4 and
  i
   think at that point the raid drivers were still considered
   'experimental'.
 
  Then ask them how it's done.
 
   it makes sense to me that if i don't see a second drive in the fstab
  there
   isn;t any mounting which means that there is no raid going on...
 
  If you're seeing an ad device, it's not RAID-ed, AFAIK.
 
   is there any other way i can make sure if raid is actually on?
   would there will be any logs somewhere?
   the machine has been up for about 2 years and the dmesg is long
  gone...
 
  It should be in /var/run/dmesg.boot.

 thanks. i guess that solves the ad6 mistery:

 atapci0: Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller port
 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0
 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
 atapci1: Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller port
 0xcc80-0xcc8f,0xcc98-0xcc9b,0xcca0-0xcca7,0xccb0-0xccb3,0xccb8-0xccbf irq
 18 at device 31.2 on pci0
 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1
 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
 .
 ad4: 152587MB WDC WD1600JS-75MHB0/03.01C03 [310019/16/63] at ata2-master
 SATA150
 ad6: 152587MB WDC WD1600JS-75MHB0/03.01C03 [310019/16/63] at ata3-master
 SATA150
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a

 unless at device 31.2 on pci0 points to some RAID evidence - which i
 think it's false - than i read this as the ad6 disk sits there unused.
 am i right?!

 according to pciconf the atapci0 and atapci1 are differnt conrollers -
 EIDE and SATA so they can both be on pci0 as 31.1 and 31.2?! still no RAID
 though...


I've come late to this thread but it's been interesting watching the
speculation.

Yes, they F'd up the installation.  Badly.  But you need to back up every
scrap of data before trying to fix it.  And use FBSD 6.2 on the next one.
There's been lots of driver fixes in the ata driver that you want.

ata raid should show all your data on AR not AD!!  Here's an example
from my mailserver:

mail# cat /etc/fstab
# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
Pass#
/dev/ar0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/ar0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/ar0s1e /usrufs rw  2   2
/dev/ar0s1d /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
mail#

Also, note the following.  VERY important!

When you go to setup a RAID mirror on a system, using a UDMA or SATA
controller,
(ie: NOT using a RAID5 card or SCSI card or some such) here is what you do.

Start by going into the system RAID BIOS on boot, setup your RAID, then
boot the install disk.  Disks ad4 and ad6 will always show.  If disk ar0
also shows, you can select ar0 and install to that.

IF DISK ar0 DOES NOT SHOW, then your BIOS metadata isn't compatible. STOP.
Reboot system.  GO into BIOS.  DESELECT and DISABLE the RAID.

Boot system with install CD.  At the screen that displays ad4 and ad6,
select
ad4.  Select Minimal install.  Don't bother answering any post install
questions.
Finish install.  Reboot and login to root.  At command line, issue command:

atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6

Immediately reboot from the install CD.  Now, at the disk selection screen
you will see ar0.  Select this.  Delete all existing partitions and recreate
them, install the full system and your in business.

Ted

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Re: Notice this in the messages log

[Matthew Seaman]

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dbetts wrote:
 Freshly installed Freebsd 6.2 on a new box noticed this in the messages
 log.
 
 locutus sshd[22236]: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for warf IN ,
 got type A
 May 26 16:13:03 locutus sshd[22236]: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for
 warf IN , got type A
 locutus _su: gethostby*.getanswer: asked for warf IN , got type A
 Is this an error message? Do I need to worry about it?
 Sometime i will get the message for ftp also

It is a problem with the nameserver you are querying to try and resolve
the hostname 'warf' into an IP number.  It could happen for any means of
access to those machines, not just SSH or FTP.

That nameserver is sending you an 'A' (IPv4) response to a query about an
'' (IPv6) quantity.  Which is simply broken.

However, unless you are the admin of that nameserver, it's nothing to
worry about: your FreeBSD machines will carefully ignore the nonsensical
response and DTRT.

Cheers,

Matthew


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RE: This is a error message i receive when I try to install any pack using the package_add -r

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dbetts
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 7:23 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE:This is a error message i receive when I try to install any
 pack using the package_add -r 
 
 
 It happens with every package. I am using ATT DSL with 2wire 2701HG-B 
 Gateway.
 I have checked all my settings on the firewall and I am able to FTP into 
 the server and FTP out from all my other workstations on my network. 
 This started after I switched to ATT. I called ATT and had them check 
 everything and of course nothing was wrong at there end.

I think what is going on is ATT is using PPP mode DSL and is using a MTU
size less than 1500, and ICMP is blocked between you and the FTP server.
I assume you have the DSL PPP terminated on the 2wire modem?  And your
using the NAT inside of the 2wire?  If so, switch the 2wire into bridged
mode and terminate the PPPoE session on the BSD box.

Ted
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RE: freebsd network fax server?

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

The problem with the printserver routine is you have no way to
specify the recipient fax number.  Emailing the fax to the hylafax
server is the way to go.

Ted

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 9:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Anish Mistry
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: freebsd network fax server?


 Hi,
 I do have windows clients, and i do not have any fax client
 software for
 them. I thought i could just go through a cups printserver that
 i've got but
 haven't seen anything to get that going. I am open to suggestions.
 Thanks.
 Dave.

 - Original Message -
 From: Thanos Rizoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: freebsd network fax server?


  O/H Anish Mistry Ýãñáøå:
  On Thursday 24 May 2007, Dave wrote:
  Hello,
  I've got a setup using HylaFAX.
 
  The critical parts of the question about Hylafax are:
  a) are you using hylafax server with windows clients? and if yes
  b) what cliesnt software are you using to send faxes? (there
 are dosens of
  them)
 
  I am interested too in such a solution and I am stuck at what client to
  select for windows based machines.
 
  --
  RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens
  _
  Thanos Rizoulis
  Electronic Computing Systems Engineer
  Larissa, Greece
  FreeBSD/PCBSD user
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is it possible to set the following IPC options at boot instead of hard-coding them in kernel

[Angelin Lalev]

Hi list, 

I'm running squid diskd on my proxy machines and I want to be able to use 
freebsd-update.
Squid diskd requires the following options set in the kernel (example from 
daemon news 
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200209/squid.html)

options SYSVMSG

options MSGMNB=8192 # max # of bytes in a queue
options MSGMNI=40   # number of message queue identifiers
options MSGSEG=512  # number of message segments per queue
options MSGSSZ=64   # size of a message segment
options MSGTQL=2048 # max messages in system

I guess that updating that custom kernel will be a problem for freebsd-update, 
so is that 
possible to set those values at boot? (I believe SYSVMSG is in GENERIC by 
default).

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Re: freebsd network fax server?

[Daniel Marsh]

On 5/27/07, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



The problem with the printserver routine is you have no way to
specify the recipient fax number.  Emailing the fax to the hylafax
server is the way to go.

Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 9:32 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Anish Mistry
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: freebsd network fax server?


 Hi,
 I do have windows clients, and i do not have any fax client
 software for
 them. I thought i could just go through a cups printserver that
 i've got but
 haven't seen anything to get that going. I am open to suggestions.
 Thanks.
 Dave.

 - Original Message -
 From: Thanos Rizoulis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 11:39 AM
 Subject: Re: freebsd network fax server?


  O/H Anish Mistry Ýãñáøå:
  On Thursday 24 May 2007, Dave wrote:
  Hello,
  I've got a setup using HylaFAX.
 
  The critical parts of the question about Hylafax are:
  a) are you using hylafax server with windows clients? and if yes
  b) what cliesnt software are you using to send faxes? (there
 are dosens of
  them)
 
  I am interested too in such a solution and I am stuck at what client
to
  select for windows based machines.
 
  --
  RTFM and STFW before anything bad happens
  _
  Thanos Rizoulis
  Electronic Computing Systems Engineer
  Larissa, Greece
  FreeBSD/PCBSD user
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I currently use Hylafax on a FreeBSD server to send and receive faxes, when
receiving it sends it to a different person specified on the fax number they
received it on.
To send faxes I've tried several different solutions, one was a printer
shared via samba/cups (smbfax) this would look in the produced postscript
for a line Fax-nr: 993848210 and send the fax to that number, this is
great if you use fax coversheets in word, another as an e-mail receiver, but
the most successful I've tried is installing a driver on each machine
separately that prompts you for a fax number and allows you to save an
address book when sending faxes (winprint hylafax).

Regardless of my experience with these, the best place to find software that
you could make use of as a client is listed at:
http://www.hylafax.org/content/Desktop_Client_Software

I have found the hylafax handbook on par with the FreeBSD handbook with
clarity, readability and a bloody excellent source of information on how to
implement servers and clients.

Thanks
Daniel
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RE: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper
 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:04 PM
 To: Kyrre Nygård
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All
 rights reserved.


 Kyrre Nygård wrote:
  Hello!
 
  Is it possible to change:
 
  Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
  Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights
 reserved.
 
  Over to:
 
  Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California.
  All rights reserved.
 
  If so, how is it done?
 
  To have `All rights reserved.' apply to both copyright
 statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line. It
 would also look a whole lot neater, as the last number of `1994'
 now aligns with the last letter of `reserved' using a monospaced
 font, which ends up looking kind of weird. Trust me on this one.
 
  Thank you,
  Kyrre Nygård + mir-visuals.com + snoarc.no

 Now why would you want to do that? That's cutting FreeBSD totally out of
 the picture, which isn't correct since they're the copyright owners of
 the FreeBSD project from 1992 to today.


Re-read what he said, Garrett:

To have `All rights reserved.' apply to BOTH copyright
statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line.

Cutting FreeBSD out would leave ONE, not multiple, copyright lines.
BOTH would not apply.  He intended the first copyright line to
remain, he just didn't print it.

He is actually right, and it should be filed as a PR.  Gramatically,
right now the all rights reserved line does not apply to the
first copyright line.

Of course, to be really nitpicky, the (c) should be removed, because
WTPO has already come out and stated that (c) isn't a valid copyright
indicator, you must completely enclose the c in a circle.

Ted

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Re: Restore UFS snapshot

[Roland Smith]

On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:08:31PM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
  I don't think he is talking about that. From what I understand about
  the snapshot system (correct me if I'm wrong) is that a snapshot
  creates it's own file system by remembering, for example, what the
  superblock was at the time of the snapshot. After that, the live file
  system continues on its way keeping track of the snapshot, but
  modifying its own blocks to account for the changes afterwards.

More or less. You should read §8.7 of McKusick's book, or the paper he
wrote about it;
http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/usenix99/mckusick.html 

For instance, every time you change a block on a filesystem that has a
snapshot, the filesystem checks wether that block is in the snapshot
already. If not it writes the old contents of that block to the snapshot
before writing the new contents to the filesystem block.

  I think what Svein wants to do is essentially overwrite a few blocks
  on the live file system, loosing all references to the changes that
  have been made and in effect returning the file system to the state it
  was in when the snapshot was taken. 

It's not just a question of references. You'll have to copy all the
changed blocks back, and change the inodes, et cetera.

  This is different from simply
  copying the contents of the snapshot back to the disk via an md
  device. 

If you are using something like rsync it's not very much different.

The point is that you're using established and debugged methods and code
to change the filesystem, instead of writing new tools to do the same. 

  This way he would restore the snapshot and lose it at the same
  time, but the operation should be O(1) in theory (time and space), as
  opposed to O(n) which any normal back-up/restore is.

You don't lose the snapshot untill you delete it. And even then there
are situations where not all the used space can be reclaimed. If a
subsequent snapshot was taken, for instance.

The process of undoing the snapshot can't be O(1). Because the time
needed to create the shapshot isn't either.

Roland
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Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

[Erik Trulsson]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:38:33AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Garrett Cooper
  Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:04 PM
  To: Kyrre Nygård
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All
  rights reserved.
 
 
  Kyrre Nygård wrote:
   Hello!
  
   Is it possible to change:
  
   Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
   Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights
  reserved.
  
   Over to:
  
   Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California.
   All rights reserved.
  
   If so, how is it done?
  
   To have `All rights reserved.' apply to both copyright
  statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line. It
  would also look a whole lot neater, as the last number of `1994'
  now aligns with the last letter of `reserved' using a monospaced
  font, which ends up looking kind of weird. Trust me on this one.
  
   Thank you,
   Kyrre Nygård + mir-visuals.com + snoarc.no
 
  Now why would you want to do that? That's cutting FreeBSD totally out of
  the picture, which isn't correct since they're the copyright owners of
  the FreeBSD project from 1992 to today.
 
 
 Re-read what he said, Garrett:
 
 To have `All rights reserved.' apply to BOTH copyright
 statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line.
 
 Cutting FreeBSD out would leave ONE, not multiple, copyright lines.
 BOTH would not apply.  He intended the first copyright line to
 remain, he just didn't print it.
 
 He is actually right, and it should be filed as a PR.  Gramatically,
 right now the all rights reserved line does not apply to the
 first copyright line.
 
 Of course, to be really nitpicky, the (c) should be removed, because
 WTPO has already come out and stated that (c) isn't a valid copyright
 indicator, you must completely enclose the c in a circle.


As I understand it the phrase 'All rights reserved' was required by older
copyright rules but is obsolete these days.
I.e. changing the wording so that 'All rights reserved' applies to both
copyright statements is pointless since it does not have any legal
significance any more.




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Upgrade Xorg 7.2.0 - mergebase.sh problems

[Christopher Prance]

I thought I was so close, nope not yet.  I finally got my server upgraded
with no problem.  Well a few minor setbacks, but I got it done.  Of course
it won't run on my Sony 19 monitor which I have yet to figure out, but will
in due time, but my server is not of importance, because I don't run X on
it, it is just a webserver for now. My Thinkpad is a different story, I am
trying to move away from my Windows laptop and rely on only FreeBSD so I
would really like to get X up and running again.  The file I'm attaching is
a script of the mergebase.sh tool. It listed several files that exist in
both /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 and it will not continue until I move or
remove them. I don't know which ones to remove and which ones to just move.
Not too mention I did it by hand on my server, because there was not that
many.  So any help here would be appreciated.  Is there are way I could make
a script to move all these files for me? Which I'm sure there is but my
scripting skills are beginners at best. :(   Sorry for the long post, just
had to get it out.  Thanks again ahead of time!

Christopher Prance
 

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Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

[Christian Walther]

On 27/05/07, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:38:33AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


[...]


As I understand it the phrase 'All rights reserved' was required by older
copyright rules but is obsolete these days.
I.e. changing the wording so that 'All rights reserved' applies to both
copyright statements is pointless since it does not have any legal
significance any more.


Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't (C) - All rights reserved
something entirely different from the BSD License under which FreeBSD
is licensed? This license grants it's users some rights very
explicitely. I know that I can still be a Copyright owner when I
choose to distribute a piece of work under a different license, but
can I say that all rights are reserved when I actually do something
else?
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Re: Upgrade Xorg 7.2.0 - mergebase.sh problems

[Manolis Kiagias]

Christopher Prance wrote:
 I thought I was so close, nope not yet.  I finally got my server upgraded
 with no problem.  Well a few minor setbacks, but I got it done.  Of course
 it won't run on my Sony 19 monitor which I have yet to figure out, but will
 in due time, but my server is not of importance, because I don't run X on
 it, it is just a webserver for now. My Thinkpad is a different story, I am
 trying to move away from my Windows laptop and rely on only FreeBSD so I
 would really like to get X up and running again.  The file I'm attaching is
 a script of the mergebase.sh tool. It listed several files that exist in
 both /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 and it will not continue until I move or
 remove them. I don't know which ones to remove and which ones to just move.
 Not too mention I did it by hand on my server, because there was not that
 many.  So any help here would be appreciated.  Is there are way I could make
 a script to move all these files for me? Which I'm sure there is but my
 scripting skills are beginners at best. :(   Sorry for the long post, just
 had to get it out.  Thanks again ahead of time!

 Christopher Prance

   
I had the exact same problem, a long list of files that had to be
removed or the script would not continue. Fortunately this list is
saved in a file somewhere in tmp (it tells you the location, I can't
remember it now) so I chose the safe way, wrote a small script and moved
all these files to a backup folder. Run mergebase again, success this
time and after changing the Modules path as suggested in UPDATING my X
was up and running in full glory. I have not observed any problems yet
(I still have the backup). Probably this will be the solution for you as
well.

Manolis
 
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Re: is it possible to set the following IPC options at boot instead of hard-coding them in kernel

[Matthew Seaman]

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Angelin Lalev wrote:
 Hi list, 
 
 I'm running squid diskd on my proxy machines and I want to be able to use 
 freebsd-update.
 Squid diskd requires the following options set in the kernel (example from 
 daemon news 
 http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200209/squid.html)
 
   options SYSVMSG
 
   options MSGMNB=8192 # max # of bytes in a queue
   options MSGMNI=40   # number of message queue identifiers
   options MSGSEG=512  # number of message segments per queue
   options MSGSSZ=64   # size of a message segment
   options MSGTQL=2048 # max messages in system
 
 I guess that updating that custom kernel will be a problem for 
 freebsd-update, so is that 
 possible to set those values at boot? (I believe SYSVMSG is in GENERIC by 
 default).

You should be able to set these via /boot/loader.conf which will let you
just use a GENERIC kernel.  Run:

   sysctl kern.ipc

to find the OID names and then just put eg:

   kern.ipc.msgmnb=8192

into loader.conf (plus all the other tunables you want to change) and
reboot.  For the gory details, look at /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c --- I
can't find any actual documentation mentioning these OIDs but my reading
of the code suggests that is how it is meant to work.

Cheers,

Matthew


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RE: raid or not raid

[kalin mintchev]

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:11 PM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: raid or not raid


  On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 06:30:06AM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:
 
  so nobody on this list knows anything about raid?
  wrong list?
 
   hi all..
  
   i have a box in a remote hosting facility that claims that
 the machine
  has
   two discs raided in it but df and fstab show only one disc with a
  bunch of
   slices.
   under devices there is another name - ad6 - but it's not mounted
  anywhere.
   the one i see both in df and the fstab is ad4 with one big slice
 and
   different partitions
 
  My (VIA Tech V-RAID) raid disk shows up as ar0, although the ad4 and
 ad6
  device nodes exist as well.
 
  Do you have the ataraid device in the kernel?

 yes. but isn;t that in by default in 5.4 GENERIC?!

   they insist there are 2 raided discs in tha machine. the os
 is 5.4 and
  i
   think at that point the raid drivers were still considered
   'experimental'.
 
  Then ask them how it's done.
 
   it makes sense to me that if i don't see a second drive in the
 fstab
  there
   isn;t any mounting which means that there is no raid going on...
 
  If you're seeing an ad device, it's not RAID-ed, AFAIK.
 
   is there any other way i can make sure if raid is actually on?
   would there will be any logs somewhere?
   the machine has been up for about 2 years and the dmesg is long
  gone...
 
  It should be in /var/run/dmesg.boot.

 thanks. i guess that solves the ad6 mistery:

 atapci0: Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller port
 0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0
 ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
 ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
 atapci1: Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller port
 0xcc80-0xcc8f,0xcc98-0xcc9b,0xcca0-0xcca7,0xccb0-0xccb3,0xccb8-0xccbf
 irq
 18 at device 31.2 on pci0
 ata2: channel #0 on atapci1
 ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
 .
 ad4: 152587MB WDC WD1600JS-75MHB0/03.01C03 [310019/16/63] at
 ata2-master
 SATA150
 ad6: 152587MB WDC WD1600JS-75MHB0/03.01C03 [310019/16/63] at
 ata3-master
 SATA150
 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a

 unless at device 31.2 on pci0 points to some RAID evidence - which i
 think it's false - than i read this as the ad6 disk sits there unused.
 am i right?!

 according to pciconf the atapci0 and atapci1 are differnt conrollers -
 EIDE and SATA so they can both be on pci0 as 31.1 and 31.2?! still no
 RAID
 though...


 I've come late to this thread but it's been interesting watching the
 speculation.

 Yes, they F'd up the installation.  Badly.  But you need to back up every
 scrap of data before trying to fix it.  And use FBSD 6.2 on the next one.
 There's been lots of driver fixes in the ata driver that you want.

 ata raid should show all your data on AR not AD!!  Here's an example
 from my mailserver:

 mail# cat /etc/fstab
 # DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
 Pass#
 /dev/ar0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
 /dev/ar0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
 /dev/ar0s1e /usrufs rw  2   2
 /dev/ar0s1d /varufs rw  2   2
 /dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
 mail#

 Also, note the following.  VERY important!

 When you go to setup a RAID mirror on a system, using a UDMA or SATA
 controller,
 (ie: NOT using a RAID5 card or SCSI card or some such) here is what you
 do.

 Start by going into the system RAID BIOS on boot, setup your RAID, then
 boot the install disk.  Disks ad4 and ad6 will always show.  If disk ar0
 also shows, you can select ar0 and install to that.

 IF DISK ar0 DOES NOT SHOW, then your BIOS metadata isn't compatible.
 STOP.
 Reboot system.  GO into BIOS.  DESELECT and DISABLE the RAID.

 Boot system with install CD.  At the screen that displays ad4 and ad6,
 select
 ad4.  Select Minimal install.  Don't bother answering any post install
 questions.
 Finish install.  Reboot and login to root.  At command line, issue
 command:

 atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6

 Immediately reboot from the install CD.  Now, at the disk selection screen
 you will see ar0.  Select this.  Delete all existing partitions and
 recreate
 them, install the full system and your in business.

nice...  thank you. i love condensed instructions. saves so much time...



 Ted




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Upgrade xorg 7.2 and extra x11 packages ...

[Kiffin Gish]

I have a question about the xorg 7.2 upgrade.

I noticed that tons of extra x11 packages are being installed by default
for some reason, my packages count growing beyond 950! The whole process
is taking more than a day and there is no end in sight.

Are they really required, and if not, how can I safely remove these
unwanted packages?

By the way, as suggested I followed the UPGRADING instructions exactly,
and still have met with tons of errors and problems.

Thanks alot in advance.

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Re: is it possible to set the following IPC options at boot insteadof hard-coding them in kernel

[Angelin Lalev]

Thanks, it worked!

On Sun, 27 May 2007 12:40:09 +0100, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Angelin Lalev wrote:
 Hi list,

 I'm running squid diskd on my proxy machines and I want to be able to
 use freebsd-update.
 Squid diskd requires the following options set in the kernel (example
 from daemon news
 http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200209/squid.html)

  options SYSVMSG

  options MSGMNB=8192 # max # of bytes in a queue
  options MSGMNI=40   # number of message queue identifiers
  options MSGSEG=512  # number of message segments per queue
  options MSGSSZ=64   # size of a message segment
  options MSGTQL=2048 # max messages in system

 I guess that updating that custom kernel will be a problem for
 freebsd-update, so is that
 possible to set those values at boot? (I believe SYSVMSG is in GENERIC
 by default).
 
 You should be able to set these via /boot/loader.conf which will let you
 just use a GENERIC kernel.  Run:
 
sysctl kern.ipc
 
 to find the OID names and then just put eg:
 
kern.ipc.msgmnb=8192
 
 into loader.conf (plus all the other tunables you want to change) and
 reboot.  For the gory details, look at /usr/src/sys/kern/sysv_msg.c --- I
 can't find any actual documentation mentioning these OIDs but my reading
 of the code suggests that is how it is meant to work.
 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 
 
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RE:This is a error message i receive when I try to install any, pack using the package_add -r

[dbetts]

It happens with every package. I am using ATT DSL with 2wire 2701HG-B 
 Gateway.
 I have checked all my settings on the firewall and I am able to FTP into 
 the server and FTP out from all my other workstations on my network. 
 This started after I switched to ATT. I called ATT and had them check 
 everything and of course nothing was wrong at there end.
  


I think what is going on is ATT is using PPP mode DSL and is using a MTU
size less than 1500, and ICMP is blocked between you and the FTP server.
I assume you have the DSL PPP terminated on the 2wire modem?  And your
using the NAT inside of the 2wire?  If so, switch the 2wire into bridged
mode and terminate the PPPoE session on the BSD box.

Ted
  

Ted,
The BSD box is plugged into a switch on my network. Should I still still 
switch the 2wire router into bridged mode?


Thanks

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Re: Distributing kernel to identical machine (with MAC, AUDIT)

[mal content]

On 27/05/07, Dimitar Vasilev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yup on 4 conditions:
1. you have serial console access to all machines.
2. you've tested that kernel works.
3. backed up the previous kernel
4. have  not raised securelevel to 1 and have added the proper rc.conf
values and got the appropriate MAC labels handy.


Yes, all four conditions are fulfilled.

These identical machines are test boxes anyway. Doesn't matter if I
end up locked out of them.

thanks,
MC
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Re: Distributing kernel to identical machine (with MAC, AUDIT)

[Dimitar Vasilev]

Yup on 4 conditions:
1. you have serial console access to all machines.
2. you've tested that kernel works.
3. backed up the previous kernel
4. have  not raised securelevel to 1 and have added the proper
rc.confvalues and got the appropriate MAC labels handy.
If you have messed up with securelevel you can either setup loader.conf to
boot the kernel you want
or reboot with securelevel disabled and change the kernel then.
I'd rather start experimenting with a test machine.
MAC sometimes may shut off entire machine from internet, depending on
policies defined.
Good luck.

2007/5/26, mal content [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


I compiled a kernel with:

options MAC
options AUDIT

I need to copy this kernel to a couple of (identical)
machines. Assuming that I've just used vanilla defaults
(with regards to CFLAGS, make.conf) and the hardware
is identical, is it safe to just tar /boot/kernel and copy to
the other machines? Or is there more that must be copied?

As I understand it, these two options don't affect
userland at all, so nothing other than the kernel needs
to be copied...

Please enlighten me,
MC

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Re: Sound and Gigabyte GA-81945P

[Jerry McAllister]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 09:16:32AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:

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 Jerry McAllister wrote:
  On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 10:39:19PM +0300,  wrote:
  
  Hello
 
  I put vista in my computer and the voice didn?t work help my what can I do.
 
  I have motherboard ga-81945p.
 
  Thenks for your help.
  
  Why would you ask a FreeBSD Questions list about a problem with with
  a Microsloth product?There is no connection between FreeBSD which
  is a UNIX type operating system and Vista which is something Microsloth
  calls an operating system.
  
  I have no idea why voice would not work on Vista.
  Maybe you can find an MS list to ask.
 
 Surely we must assume that the OP is in search of something better than
 Vista, and by directing them to:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html
 
 we can state confidently that by following the instructions there, all
 the OP's Vista problems will soon be a thing of the past.  The question
 of whether there is good sound support for this board under FreeBSD is
 moot (and hopefully not 'mute' like the malapropism one of my colleagues
 recently came out with).


Guess that's a better answer - especially from the FreeBSD list.

jerry


 
   Cheers,
 
   Matthew
 
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CUPS on 6.2-RELEASE-p3: USB port busy; will retry in 30 seconds...

[andreas scherrer]

Hello FreeBSD-Questions-people!

I am trying to get a Samsung ML5000a printer to work on my FreeBSD 
6.2-RELEASE-p3 box. The Machine has a EPIA Mini-ITX board which has *no* 
parallel port.


The printer only connects through a parallel port though. So I use a 
cable that should be able to help me connect the parallel port of the 
printer to a usb port on the EIPA Mini-ITX board. The cable (USB-PTR) 
was manufactered by Maxxtro.


I am still in the early stage of setup, meaning that I even cannot print 
the testpage from the CUPS webinterface. I get the USB port busy; will 
retry in 30 seconds... message and nothing happens on the printer.


The printer is connected to /dev/unlpt0

crw-rw  1 root  cups0,  61 May 26 17:18 /dev/unlpt0

/var/cache/cups is writable by the cups group:

drwxrwxr-x  2 root  cups  512 Apr  3 21:43 cups

I managed to get half a testpage out once (I don't know how/why?!?), so 
I assume the cable would be working in theory.


If I issue 'echo test  /dev/unlpt0' I get

bash: /dev/unlpt0: Device busy

Even if cupsd is not running anymore.

Unfortunately, I could not find a solution that worked for me using 
either Google or the FreeBSD mailinglist archives. There are lots of 
threads describing the same or a very similar problem, but none provided 
a solution for me.


If anybody could give me a hint, I would greately appreciate it. If more 
information is needed, I will of course gladly provide it.



Kind regards
andreas
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Re: Restore UFS snapshot

[Maxim Khitrov]

On 5/27/07, Roland Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sat, May 26, 2007 at 07:08:31PM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
  I don't think he is talking about that. From what I understand about
  the snapshot system (correct me if I'm wrong) is that a snapshot
  creates it's own file system by remembering, for example, what the
  superblock was at the time of the snapshot. After that, the live file
  system continues on its way keeping track of the snapshot, but
  modifying its own blocks to account for the changes afterwards.

More or less. You should read §8.7 of McKusick's book, or the paper he
wrote about it;
http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/usenix99/mckusick.html

For instance, every time you change a block on a filesystem that has a
snapshot, the filesystem checks wether that block is in the snapshot
already. If not it writes the old contents of that block to the snapshot
before writing the new contents to the filesystem block.

  I think what Svein wants to do is essentially overwrite a few blocks
  on the live file system, loosing all references to the changes that
  have been made and in effect returning the file system to the state it
  was in when the snapshot was taken.

It's not just a question of references. You'll have to copy all the
changed blocks back, and change the inodes, et cetera.

  This is different from simply
  copying the contents of the snapshot back to the disk via an md
  device.

If you are using something like rsync it's not very much different.

The point is that you're using established and debugged methods and code
to change the filesystem, instead of writing new tools to do the same.

  This way he would restore the snapshot and lose it at the same
  time, but the operation should be O(1) in theory (time and space), as
  opposed to O(n) which any normal back-up/restore is.

You don't lose the snapshot untill you delete it. And even then there
are situations where not all the used space can be reclaimed. If a
subsequent snapshot was taken, for instance.

The process of undoing the snapshot can't be O(1). Because the time
needed to create the shapshot isn't either.


Wait a sec, when you mount a snapshot as a memory disk, does that
memory disk contain the snapshot as well? I haven't done this in a
while, but since the snapshot didn't exist when it was being created,
I don't see how it would. Now when you mount that snapshot, the
superblock is read and from there we find out all the necessary
information about the file-system. This is an O(1) operation is it
not?

I'm not seeing why this process can't be slightly modified to
roll-back the live file system. There shouldn't be a need to copy any
changed blocks or modify inodes because mounting the snapshot doesn't
require this. The data is already there, all the references to it are
there, these references are just not in the right place for the live
file system to use them. The snapshot superblock contains the same
information regarding the size of the file-system and all other
parameters, so if we were to overwrite the superblock why wouldn't
everything return to the same state you see it in when you mount that
same snapshot?

This is why I said that you lose the snapshot itself, because it's not
there when it was taken, and you lose the references to all the
changed blocks of the live file system. Through the data would still
be there on the disk, as far as the snapshot is concerned it's now
free space that can be overwritten. I mean I understand that there
could be some other updates that need to be done, but I don't see a
need to move or modify any inodes around because everything is already
in place to be used, the live file system just needs to be told how
and where everything is, in the same way the memory disk does this.

The only real problem I see is about how filesystem checks whether
that block is in the snapshot already, as you put it. Is this a flag
stored in the inode, or does it involve reading through the snapshot's
superblock to see if some inode is referenced by it? In the former
case, I suppose the operation wouldn't be O(1) because you'd need to
clear all the flags, but you still wouldn't need to move anything
around. In the latter case it's even easier. What am I missing from
this picture that prevents something like this being done?

- Max
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request: upgrade freenx server

[WarrenHead]

Hi,

I would like to request a newer version of the NX server.

I have installed the nxserver on my 6.2 machine, from:
/usr/ports/devel/nx
which is now version:
NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-44 OS (GPL)

I have trouble connecting to this server with modern clients.
I have read that this is caused by the backingstore option of nx that
was changed by the nomachine.com people since version 2.0.0.
In short, newer clients do something that the older servers cannot 
handle and promptly refuse the connection. It is called the 
'Backingstore problem':


This issue is not new and has been written about in various locations, 
such as:


http://marvin.as.arizona.edu/~jharris/linux_tips/freenx-howto.html 
(see heading error 3)


and

http://gentoo-wiki.com/Talk:HOWTO_FreeNX_Server#Solutions_for_NX_Clients_versions_2.0.0_and_FreeNX_0.4.x_and_0.5.0


The solution that is offered is to change something in the code of the 
clients. This might work fine if you are using clients which code you 
can recompile, but this is not neat for when you are using windows 
and/or when you are offsite somewhere on someone else's machine, trying 
to get into your server.


My solution would be to get the current freenx server of FreeBSD 
upgraded to a more current version.


Unfortunately, I don't know how to go about that.

True, this problem might also be solved by using older clients, but I 
haven't been able to find those; Nomachine.com is not hosting them.


Cheers, Warren



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IPv6 jails

[Ofloo]

Hi,

I'm new to jails, but from what I understand is that a jail allows one
to have multiple virtual systems on one system, now I was wondering if
this could be done through IPv6, I would want to setup multiple IPv6
only systems, does anyone know if this is possible with FreeBSD6.2 ? Or
any BSD OS.

And if this is possible is one able to provide documentation, I've
checked google but all I have found is information for IPv4 jails, which
made me wonder if it was possible at all.

Regards, Ofloo

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FreeBSD 7.0 sysctl?

[Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri]

Hello,

I was able to use this command in 6.x

Now when I tried it it doesn't work in 7.0

sysctl kern.threads.max_groups_per_proc=4

What is the similar command in 7.0-CURRENT?

I need this to tweak MySQL.

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Re: Restore UFS snapshot

[Roland Smith]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 11:01:53AM -0400, Maxim Khitrov wrote:
  The process of undoing the snapshot can't be O(1). Because the time
  needed to create the shapshot isn't either.
 
  Wait a sec, when you mount a snapshot as a memory disk, does that
  memory disk contain the snapshot as well? 

Depends of your definition of contain. Technically, the snaphot is the
backing store for the memory disk.

  I haven't done this in a
  while, but since the snapshot didn't exist when it was being created,
  I don't see how it would.

I don't know what you are saying here. You have to create a snapshot
before you can mount it.

  Now when you mount that snapshot, the
  superblock is read and from there we find out all the necessary
  information about the file-system. This is an O(1) operation is it
  not?

Mounting the snapshot might be O(1), I don't know.

  I'm not seeing why this process can't be slightly modified to
  roll-back the live file system. There shouldn't be a need to copy any
  changed blocks or modify inodes because mounting the snapshot doesn't
  require this.

Mounting the snapshot and rolling back the changes in the snapshot are
completely different operations.

  The data is already there, all the references to it are
  there, these references are just not in the right place for the live
  file system to use them. The snapshot superblock contains the same
  information regarding the size of the file-system and all other
  parameters, so if we were to overwrite the superblock why wouldn't
  everything return to the same state you see it in when you mount that
  same snapshot?

A snapshot is basically a copy of the filesystem, without the blocks
that haven't changed since the snapshot was made. So overwriting the
superblock won't cut it. If you don't want to copy the blocks from the
snapshot, you'll have to rewire the inodes for all files that have been
changed since the snapshot to use the saved blocks from the snapshot.

IMHO it would be safer to copy those blocks then to rewire the fs to use
the blocks in the snapshot. A bug in this rewiring code could seriously
screw up the filesystem. And it could lead to increased fragmentation.

  This is why I said that you lose the snapshot itself, because it's not
  there when it was taken, and you lose the references to all the
  changed blocks of the live file system. Through the data would still
  be there on the disk, as far as the snapshot is concerned it's now
  free space that can be overwritten. I mean I understand that there
  could be some other updates that need to be done, but I don't see a
  need to move or modify any inodes around because everything is already
  in place to be used, the live file system just needs to be told how
  and where everything is, in the same way the memory disk does this.

And how do you tell the live filesystem where everything is without
modifying inodes?

Roland
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Re: request: upgrade freenx server

[Christian Walther]

Hi Warren,

On 27/05/07, WarrenHead [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I would like to request a newer version of the NX server.

I have installed the nxserver on my 6.2 machine, from:
/usr/ports/devel/nx
which is now version:
NXSERVER - Version 1.4.0-44 OS (GPL)


This is one of many, many ports available in the ports tree, so the
FreeBSD people aren't really responsible for it. If you check
http://www.freshports.org for example and search for nxserver you
get some details about this port, including its maintainer.
So you might ask him if he is interested in updating the port to the
newest version.

HTH
Christian
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Re: openvpn on freebsd problem

[Benjamin Lutz]

On Saturday 26 May 2007 16:39, User Pjf wrote:
 I install openvpn from port. Follow openvpn.net howto, vpn can
 connect from client to server, but on client side, I cann't ping
 server side other machines.

 On my server side, vpn server and gateway is same one box, I
 use dev tun, the server has a public static ip address, install
 nat,ipfw for internal net to Internet.

 In refer to howto,
 Make sure that you've enabled IP and TUN/TAP forwarding on
 the OpenVPN server machine.

 I know IP forwarding is work fine, but how to enable TUN forwarding?

You enable ip forwarding with the net.inet.ip.forwarding and 
net.inet6.ip6.forwarding sysctls. However, if your gateway already 
works for the internal net, I strongly suspect those sysctls are 
already set to 1.

I'd have a look at your firewall ruleset. It seems most likely to me 
that the reason for your VPN not working lies there. I suggest that you 
enable logging for any deny rules you have in your ruleset and see 
whether any packets associated with the VPN connection are dropped.

Cheers
Benjamin


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Re: IPv6 jails

[Roland Smith]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 08:24:43AM -0700, Ofloo wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm new to jails, but from what I understand is that a jail allows one
 to have multiple virtual systems on one system, now I was wondering if
 this could be done through IPv6, I would want to setup multiple IPv6
 only systems, does anyone know if this is possible with FreeBSD6.2 ? Or
 any BSD OS.

Jails don't support IPv6 AFAIK. You could use redirection in your
firewall to make the jails look like IPv6 addresses externally?

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compiling kernel problem

[Anton Galitch]

Hi I have a problem while compiling my kernel. When I go to /usr/src then
make buildkernel ...
it says that make doesnt know what to do because buildkernel is invalid
option.

I downloaded the latest source and still the same.
In /usr/src there is only sys/ directory.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: compiling kernel problem

[Roland Smith]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 01:51:42PM -0300, Anton Galitch wrote:
  Hi I have a problem while compiling my kernel. When I go to /usr/src then
  make buildkernel ...
  it says that make doesnt know what to do because buildkernel is invalid
  option.
 
  I downloaded the latest source and still the same.
  In /usr/src there is only sys/ directory.

How did you download the source? There should be a lot more in /usr/src.

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Xorg 7.2 update

[Arthur Barlow]

All,

I just updated my 6.2 box to the new Xorg 7.2 distro.  I followed all  
the directions in the UPDATING file.  It appears all the directories  
have been properly built.  I also successfully ran the mergebase.sh  
script from the Tools/scripts directory.  However, when I try to run  
X, I get the following error:


(EE) Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist), 0)
Fatal server error:
Unable to load required base modules, Exiting

I've looked around and cannot find any references to a pcidata  
module.  Any insights?

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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 sysctl?

[Björn König]

 Hello,

 I was able to use this command in 6.x

 Now when I tried it it doesn't work in 7.0

 sysctl kern.threads.max_groups_per_proc=4

 What is the similar command in 7.0-CURRENT?

 I need this to tweak MySQL.

It has beend removed six month ago with the following notice:

[remove] Any reference of the ksegrp structure. This feature was
never fully utilised and made things overly complicated.

I suggest further discussion on [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you think and can
prove that it was really useful.

Regards
Björn


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Re: Xorg 7.2 update

[Steve Kargl]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 10:03:40AM -0700, Arthur Barlow wrote:
 All,
 
 I just updated my 6.2 box to the new Xorg 7.2 distro.  I followed all  
 the directions in the UPDATING file.  It appears all the directories  
 have been properly built.  I also successfully ran the mergebase.sh  
 script from the Tools/scripts directory.  However, when I try to run  
 X, I get the following error:
 
 (EE) Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist), 0)
 Fatal server error:
 Unable to load required base modules, Exiting
 
 I've looked around and cannot find any references to a pcidata  
 module.  Any insights?

mobile:kargl[201] locate pcidata
/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.la
/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules/libpcidata.so

I assume that you updated /etc/X11/xorg.conf to include the
correct module path?

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Re: compiling kernel problem

[Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri]

On 5/27/07, Anton Galitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi I have a problem while compiling my kernel. When I go to /usr/src then
make buildkernel ...
it says that make doesnt know what to do because buildkernel is invalid
option.

I downloaded the latest source and still the same.
In /usr/src there is only sys/ directory.

Thanks for any help.

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You need to check to do csup -L 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile

Also choose the mirror you need and edit the stable-supfile.

If you are using older version than 6.1 use cvsup.

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[FreeBSD 7.0 CURRENT/AMD64] if_iwi: does not build module automatically

[O. Hartmann]

Hello,
I find just this minute that if_iwi.ko isn't built after a 'make_world'. 
The sources are still present, but the module and all iwi_bss-stuff 
(firmware(9)) get not built.

Is there a reason not building this driver?

by the way, I just started experimenting with a HP nx7300 and even with 
the iwi-stuff built the built-in WLAN adapter isn't working ...


pciconf -lvc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:class=0x028000 card=0x135c103c chip=0x42228086 
rev=0x02 hdr=0x00

   vendor = 'Intel Corporation'
   device = '3945ABG Intel 3945ABG Wireless LAN controller'
   class  = network
   cap 01[c8] = powerspec 2  supports D0 D3  current D0
   cap 05[d0] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit
   cap 10[e0] = PCI-Express 1 legacy endpoint


Regards,
Oliver
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Re: Xorg 7.2 update

[Claus Guttesen]

I just updated my 6.2 box to the new Xorg 7.2 distro.  I followed all
the directions in the UPDATING file.  It appears all the directories
have been properly built.  I also successfully ran the mergebase.sh
script from the Tools/scripts directory.  However, when I try to run
X, I get the following error:

(EE) Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist), 0)
Fatal server error:
Unable to load required base modules, Exiting


I had the same error when I reused an old xorg.conf. I commented out
some modules, until it worked. Don't remember which one though.

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Re: Upgrade Xorg 7.2.0 - mergebase.sh problems

[Paul Schmehl]

--On May 27, 2007 12:10:54 PM +0200 Christopher Prance 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I thought I was so close, nope not yet.  I finally got my server upgraded
with no problem.  Well a few minor setbacks, but I got it done.  Of
course it won't run on my Sony 19 monitor which I have yet to figure
out, but will in due time, but my server is not of importance, because I
don't run X on it, it is just a webserver for now. My Thinkpad is a
different story, I am trying to move away from my Windows laptop and
rely on only FreeBSD so I would really like to get X up and running
again.  The file I'm attaching is a script of the mergebase.sh tool. It
listed several files that exist in both /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 and it
will not continue until I move or remove them. I don't know which ones
to remove and which ones to just move. Not too mention I did it by hand
on my server, because there was not that many.  So any help here would
be appreciated.  Is there are way I could make a script to move all
these files for me? Which I'm sure there is but my scripting skills are
beginners at best. :(   Sorry for the long post, just had to get it out.
Thanks again ahead of time!


mkdir /usr/local/oldX11
mv /usr/X11R6/* /usr/local/oldX11/

Then run mergebase.sh again.  If you ever need any of the files in 
/usr/local/oldX11, they will still be there.  If, after running for a 
while, you find that they are no longer needed (and you need the disc 
space), rm -fr the directory.


The reason the script is written that way is because the authors have no 
idea what you might have done in the way of altering files to fit your 
install, and they are not going to arbitrarily overwrite them.  That's 
your decision as owner of the machine.  Since you don't clearly understand 
that already, it's unlikely you have anything critical that needs to be 
saved, but caution dictates that you put them somewhere, just in case.


After you've done that, if you still can't run X, go to 
/usr/ports/x11/xorg/ and run make install clean.


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Re: Xorg 7.2 update

[Paul Schmehl]

--On May 27, 2007 10:03:40 AM -0700 Arthur Barlow 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



All,

I just updated my 6.2 box to the new Xorg 7.2 distro.  I followed all
the directions in the UPDATING file.  It appears all the directories
have been properly built.  I also successfully ran the mergebase.sh
script from the Tools/scripts directory.  However, when I try to run X,
I get the following error:

(EE) Failed to load module pcidata (module does not exist), 0)
Fatal server error:
Unable to load required base modules, Exiting

I've looked around and cannot find any references to a pcidata module.
Any insights?


I had the same problem.  You need to install the xorg metaport.  Go to 
/usr/ports/x11/xorg/ and run make install clean.


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Re: Upgrade xorg 7.2 and extra x11 packages ...

[Kris Kennaway]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 01:19:52PM +0200, Kiffin Gish wrote:
 I have a question about the xorg 7.2 upgrade.
 
 I noticed that tons of extra x11 packages are being installed by default
 for some reason, my packages count growing beyond 950! The whole process
 is taking more than a day and there is no end in sight.
 
 Are they really required, and if not, how can I safely remove these
 unwanted packages?

Basically, they are required.  It was the decision of the X.org
project to go this route.

 By the way, as suggested I followed the UPGRADING instructions exactly,
 and still have met with tons of errors and problems.

OK.

Kris
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Re: FreeBSD 7.0 sysctl?

[Kris Kennaway]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:37:43PM +0300, Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I was able to use this command in 6.x
 
 Now when I tried it it doesn't work in 7.0
 
 sysctl kern.threads.max_groups_per_proc=4
 
 What is the similar command in 7.0-CURRENT?
 
 I need this to tweak MySQL.

If it doesn't exist any longer, how do you know it is required?

Kris
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partkly to 7.2.jj

[Gary Kline]

well, after following the UPDATING directions anddd having just
completed, X barely works.  gdm is missing, kdm fails, and xdm 
puts me into kde.  The screen res u  is at least  1200x1600.
there is no xorg.conf, and my notes on how to create this file
are missing.  my scren is skewedd to the left; there's about 
18mm of blck on my right hand side.

i'll try to re-install gnomee and make syure that other
window mangers are there.  one prticularly annoyying thins is
how to set backspaccce == ^Hin KDE..

NO Complaints; tthis move ffrom 6.9 to 7.2 had to be done and
theee ports term has done a great djob.  once i've got an
/etc/X11/xorg, this should be on the road.  So **help***

gary

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Miserable 2d performance on what should be fast hardware

[Josh Paetzel]

I have a reasonable fast machine, dual core 2.2ghz opteron, 2 gigs of
DDR, sata disks, and a pair of nvidia cards, one a 7xxx pci-e 16x and
the other a 55xx PCI card.  I have 3 monitors, so one of the cards
needs to run dual-head, which requires the nvidia driversthe xorg
nv driver can't do dual-head.

My problem is that 2d acceleration is either not working or really
really brokenif I'm ssh'd into a remote box and doing a compile
just rendering the text in an xterm uses 100% of a cpu.  Doing two
compiles at once maxes both cpus, and any more than that makes
keyboard input laggy.  I've tried various terms, xfce's Terminal,
xterms, eterms, aterm...I've tried various window managers including
xfce4, fluxbox, and KDE, all to no avail.  I've also tried xorg 7.2,
which didn't make any difference either.

As a side note, the problem seems to be related to the second video
card, as I didn't have any trouble before I added it.  There aren't
IRQ conflicts, nor does there appear to be a massive number of
interrupts going on, the cpu usage is 'system' and systat -vm doesn't
show a lot of interrupts on any of the irq lines.

It's also worth noting that 3d accel seems to be broken with the
addition of the second card, and also mixing the nv and nvidia driver
doesn't work out so well (kernel panics), I only need dual-head on one
card.  Not that I actually care, unless 3d accel could help solve my
issue, I don't need it for anything.

I do have an ati pci-e 16x card I can swap for the nvidia, my problem
there was an inability to get a working dual-head config for it...I'm
open to example xorg.confs there.  The other factor that makes this
less than desirable is it effectively pins media to the card it was
started on.dragging a running video from a monitor on one card to
a monitor on the other causes the video to go black.

Suggestions or feats of magic welcome, including reports of 'I have
triple-head working on such and such a card'  I'll gladly buy hardware
to fix the problem.


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Re: compiling kernel problem

[Anton Galitch]

I downloaded the source using sysinstall via ftp


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[SOLVED] Re: compiling kernel problem

[Anton Galitch]

Thanks for your help i could get needed files using csup.

On 5/27/07, Anton Galitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


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RE: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. Allrights reserved.

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christian
 Walther
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California.
 Allrights reserved.
 
 
 On 27/05/07, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:38:33AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  
 [...]
 
  As I understand it the phrase 'All rights reserved' was 
 required by older
  copyright rules but is obsolete these days.
  I.e. changing the wording so that 'All rights reserved' applies to both
  copyright statements is pointless since it does not have any legal
  significance any more.
 
 Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't (C) - All rights reserved
 something entirely different from the BSD License under which FreeBSD
 is licensed? This license grants it's users some rights very
 explicitely. I know that I can still be a Copyright owner when I
 choose to distribute a piece of work under a different license, but
 can I say that all rights are reserved when I actually do something
 else?

Unfortunately, WPTO did not create a new category of copyright with
software, they tried stuffing it into the same existing copyright
framework that covers books, periodicals, etc.  Thus stuff like first
rights to publish, which have significance with copyrighted written
materials, are meaningless with software.  And, things like patents,
ie: software patents, which have meaning with copyrighted software,
are meaningless with books and articles.

With FreeBSD, the decision to make software subject to copyright laws
means that when you want to give software away you have to find a 
convenient entity to give the software copyright ownership.  So what was
historically done with BSD software is when someone wrote a piece of
it they would sign over copyright rights to UCB which would immediately
license the stuff under a license that basically revoked all rights 
that a normal copyright owner would have.

The same thing is done these days with the FreeBSD Project.

It is a shame that in the beginning the Copyright people didn't
recognize at once that software is nothing more than a device, and
basically state that like all devices, it could be patented but
not copyrighted.  The failure of copyright to be able to properly
deal with software has given rise to a lot of bad side effects, such
as software patents (where the person is basically trying to have
their cake and eat it too - benefiting both from copyright and
patent on the same piece of software) and laws like the DMCA which
classify software and explicitly categorize it as a device, so
they can ban it.  (The US Constitution explicitly forbids banning
of materials like books and articles that carry copyright)

Ted
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RE: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. Allrights reserved.

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Trulsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:02 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: Garrett Cooper; Kyrre Nygård; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California.
 Allrights reserved.


 On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:38:33AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 Garrett Cooper
   Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:04 PM
   To: Kyrre Nygård
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of
 California. All
   rights reserved.
  
  
   Kyrre Nygård wrote:
Hello!
   
Is it possible to change:
   
Copyright (c) 1992-2007 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991,
 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights
   reserved.
   
Over to:
   
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991,
 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California.
All rights reserved.
   
If so, how is it done?
   
To have `All rights reserved.' apply to both copyright
   statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line. It
   would also look a whole lot neater, as the last number of `1994'
   now aligns with the last letter of `reserved' using a monospaced
   font, which ends up looking kind of weird. Trust me on this one.
   
Thank you,
Kyrre Nygård + mir-visuals.com + snoarc.no
  
   Now why would you want to do that? That's cutting FreeBSD
 totally out of
   the picture, which isn't correct since they're the copyright owners of
   the FreeBSD project from 1992 to today.
  
 
  Re-read what he said, Garrett:
 
  To have `All rights reserved.' apply to BOTH copyright
  statements, it is necessary to break it down to the next line.
 
  Cutting FreeBSD out would leave ONE, not multiple, copyright lines.
  BOTH would not apply.  He intended the first copyright line to
  remain, he just didn't print it.
 
  He is actually right, and it should be filed as a PR.  Gramatically,
  right now the all rights reserved line does not apply to the
  first copyright line.
 
  Of course, to be really nitpicky, the (c) should be removed, because
  WTPO has already come out and stated that (c) isn't a valid copyright
  indicator, you must completely enclose the c in a circle.


 As I understand it the phrase 'All rights reserved' was required by older
 copyright rules but is obsolete these days.
 I.e. changing the wording so that 'All rights reserved' applies to both
 copyright statements is pointless since it does not have any legal
 significance any more.


If that is the case then leaving it in is also pointless.  Why don't you
file a PR with the appropriate cites to the literature?


Ted

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RE: raid or not raid

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

 -Original Message-
 From: kalin mintchev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 5:04 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: raid or not raid


 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of kalin mintchev
  Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 4:11 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: raid or not raid
 
 
   On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 06:30:06AM -0400, kalin mintchev wrote:
  
   so nobody on this list knows anything about raid?
   wrong list?
  
hi all..
   
i have a box in a remote hosting facility that claims that
  the machine
   has
two discs raided in it but df and fstab show only one disc with a
   bunch of
slices.
under devices there is another name - ad6 - but it's not mounted
   anywhere.
the one i see both in df and the fstab is ad4 with one big slice
  and
different partitions
  
   My (VIA Tech V-RAID) raid disk shows up as ar0, although the ad4 and
  ad6
   device nodes exist as well.
  
   Do you have the ataraid device in the kernel?
 
  yes. but isn;t that in by default in 5.4 GENERIC?!
 
they insist there are 2 raided discs in tha machine. the os
  is 5.4 and
   i
think at that point the raid drivers were still considered
'experimental'.
  
   Then ask them how it's done.
  
it makes sense to me that if i don't see a second drive in the
  fstab
   there
isn;t any mounting which means that there is no raid going on...
  
   If you're seeing an ad device, it's not RAID-ed, AFAIK.
  
is there any other way i can make sure if raid is actually on?
would there will be any logs somewhere?
the machine has been up for about 2 years and the dmesg is long
   gone...
  
   It should be in /var/run/dmesg.boot.
 
  thanks. i guess that solves the ad6 mistery:
 
  atapci0: Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller port
  0xfc00-0xfc0f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device
 31.1 on pci0
  ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
  ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
  atapci1: Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller port
  0xcc80-0xcc8f,0xcc98-0xcc9b,0xcca0-0xcca7,0xccb0-0xccb3,0xccb8-0xccbf
  irq
  18 at device 31.2 on pci0
  ata2: channel #0 on atapci1
  ata3: channel #1 on atapci1
  .
  ad4: 152587MB WDC WD1600JS-75MHB0/03.01C03 [310019/16/63] at
  ata2-master
  SATA150
  ad6: 152587MB WDC WD1600JS-75MHB0/03.01C03 [310019/16/63] at
  ata3-master
  SATA150
  Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s1a
 
  unless at device 31.2 on pci0 points to some RAID evidence - which i
  think it's false - than i read this as the ad6 disk sits there unused.
  am i right?!
 
  according to pciconf the atapci0 and atapci1 are differnt conrollers -
  EIDE and SATA so they can both be on pci0 as 31.1 and 31.2?! still no
  RAID
  though...
 
 
  I've come late to this thread but it's been interesting watching the
  speculation.
 
  Yes, they F'd up the installation.  Badly.  But you need to
 back up every
  scrap of data before trying to fix it.  And use FBSD 6.2 on the
 next one.
  There's been lots of driver fixes in the ata driver that you want.
 
  ata raid should show all your data on AR not AD!!  Here's an example
  from my mailserver:
 
  mail# cat /etc/fstab
  # DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options Dump
  Pass#
  /dev/ar0s1b noneswapsw
 0   0
  /dev/ar0s1a /   ufs rw
 1   1
  /dev/ar0s1e /usrufs rw
 2   2
  /dev/ar0s1d /varufs rw
 2   2
  /dev/acd0   /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto
 0   0
  mail#
 
  Also, note the following.  VERY important!
 
  When you go to setup a RAID mirror on a system, using a UDMA or SATA
  controller,
  (ie: NOT using a RAID5 card or SCSI card or some such) here is what you
  do.
 
  Start by going into the system RAID BIOS on boot, setup your RAID, then
  boot the install disk.  Disks ad4 and ad6 will always show.  If disk ar0
  also shows, you can select ar0 and install to that.
 
  IF DISK ar0 DOES NOT SHOW, then your BIOS metadata isn't compatible.
  STOP.
  Reboot system.  GO into BIOS.  DESELECT and DISABLE the RAID.
 
  Boot system with install CD.  At the screen that displays ad4 and ad6,
  select
  ad4.  Select Minimal install.  Don't bother answering any post install
  questions.
  Finish install.  Reboot and login to root.  At command line, issue
  command:
 
  atacontrol create RAID1 ad4 ad6
 
  Immediately reboot from the install CD.  Now, at the disk
 selection screen
  you will see ar0.  Select this.  Delete all existing partitions and
  recreate
  them, install the full system and your in business.

 nice...  thank you. i love condensed instructions. saves so much time...


I should have mentioned that it also isn't necessary to put both disks
on separate 

Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

On 27/05/07, Christian Walther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 27/05/07, Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 02:38:33AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
[...]

 As I understand it the phrase 'All rights reserved' was required by older
 copyright rules but is obsolete these days.
 I.e. changing the wording so that 'All rights reserved' applies to both
 copyright statements is pointless since it does not have any legal
 significance any more.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't (C) - All rights reserved
something entirely different from the BSD License under which FreeBSD
is licensed? This license grants it's users some rights very
explicitely. I know that I can still be a Copyright owner when I
choose to distribute a piece of work under a different license, but
can I say that all rights are reserved when I actually do something
else?


Rightly claiming copyright only witholds certain
uses from others.  All rights reserved was a
method of asserting that no rights except explicity
allowed were granted, since certain forms of
publication can imply certain copying rights (right
to backup software, right to transcribe music for
personal use) to the end-user (indeed, which
end?).  Any explicit copying rights granted by other
statements are, of course, not reserved by the all
rights reserved phrase.  Modern copyright law is
so hideously restrictive and explicit and morally
indefensable (it creates sin where none exists)
that the phrase all rights reserved is deprecated.

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Re: Fix this: The Regents of the University of California. Allrights reserved.

[Colin Percival]

Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 what was
 historically done with BSD software is when someone wrote a piece of
 it they would sign over copyright rights to UCB which would immediately
 license the stuff under a license that basically revoked all rights 
 that a normal copyright owner would have.
 
 The same thing is done these days with the FreeBSD Project.

No.  The FreeBSD Project does not take copyright assignments; in fact,
since the FreeBSD Project does not legally exist, it isn't possible for
the project to take copyright assignments.

Where you see Copyright ... The FreeBSD Project, you're looking at a
collective pseudonym, like Nicolas Bourbaki.  Most copyright laws make
provisions for authors to publish their work under a pseudonym without
it having any effect on the copyright status of a work providing that
the real author is identifiable.

(This is not legal advice, I am not a lawyer, etc.)

Colin Percival
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Re: cant get the damn bandwidth limiter working

[deeptech71]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
pf and altq are enabled. My ISP allows 16kB/s upload and 128kB/s 
download. I want to use half of that. What should pf.conf contain, to 
limit my computer's upload and download speeds? I've tried:


altq sk0 cbq bandwidth 1576Kb queue { lan, upload, download }
queue lan bandwidth 1000Kb cbq(default)
queue upload bandwidth 64Kb cbq
queue download bandwidth 512Kb cbq
block in all
pass in quick on sk0 from 192.168.0.0/16 queue lan
pass in all on sk0 queue download
block out all
pass out quick on sk0 to 192.168.0.0/16 queue lan
pass out all on sk0 queue upload

This setup gives programs like fetch the full download bandwidth, full 
upload bandwidth, and allows LAN transfers only at 128kB/s. Removing the 
lan queue allows the sk0 interface to run at a total of 72kB/s, that 
would be 64kB/s download and 8kB/s download, as i need, but 1. when I'm 
not uploading, download speed is 72kB/s; 2. when I'm not downloading, 
upload speed is 16kB/s (ISP limit); and 3. when I'm transferring over 
LAN, internet speed is hindered, not to mention the 72kB/s LAN speed. 
That sucks. pf allows 1 queueset per interface. What now? Help plz? THX!




Actually, I don't know why this seemed work (probably it's because others were 
downloading at the same time), now it just doesn't do anything.


Setting it to 6Kb (0.72kB/s) allows ~15kB/s. :S

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Re: Upgrade Xorg 7.2.0 - mergebase.sh problems

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On 27/05/07, Christopher Prance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I thought I was so close, nope not yet.  I finally got my server upgraded
with no problem.  Well a few minor setbacks, but I got it done.  Of course
it won't run on my Sony 19 monitor which I have yet to figure out, but will
in due time, but my server is not of importance, because I don't run X on
it, it is just a webserver for now. My Thinkpad is a different story, I am
trying to move away from my Windows laptop and rely on only FreeBSD so I
would really like to get X up and running again.  The file I'm attaching is
a script of the mergebase.sh tool. It listed several files that exist in
both /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 and it will not continue until I move or
remove them. I don't know which ones to remove and which ones to just move.
Not too mention I did it by hand on my server, because there was not that
many.  So any help here would be appreciated.  Is there are way I could make
a script to move all these files for me? Which I'm sure there is but my
scripting skills are beginners at best. :(   Sorry for the long post, just
had to get it out.  Thanks again ahead of time!

Christopher Prance




From your attachment, in part:

. . .
CONFLICTING FILES:
./bin/appres
./bin/assistant
./bin/atobm
./bin/bdftopcf
./bin/bdftruncate
./bin/beforelight
./bin/bitmap
./bin/bmtoa
./bin/cxpm
./bin/designer
./bin/dga
. . .

% wc -l xorg-update
   3421 xorg-update

It looks like most, if not all, of your old xorg install
is still under /etc/X11R6, which should not be if
you followed /usr/ports/UPDATING.  It may be safe
to delete if xorg 7.2 was otherwise properly installed
in /usr/local, though I suspect some (perhaps very
long list of) things might have to be recompiled (again!).

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Re: raid or not raid

[Gabriel Rossetti]

Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 06:07:58AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 On 24/05/07, kalin mintchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 so nobody on this list knows anything about raid?
 wrong list?

   
 hi all..

 i have a box in a remote hosting facility that claims that the machine 
 
 has
   
 two discs raided in it but df and fstab show only one disc with a bunch 
 
 of
   
 slices.
 under devices there is another name - ad6 - but it's not mounted 
 
 anywhere.
   
 the one i see both in df and the fstab is ad4 with one big slice and
 different partitions

 they insist there are 2 raided discs in tha machine. the os is 5.4 and i
 think at that point the raid drivers were still considered 
 
 'experimental'.
   
 it makes sense to me that if i don't see a second drive in the fstab 
 
 there
   
 isn;t any mounting which means that there is no raid going on...

 is there any other way i can make sure if raid is actually on?
 would there will be any logs somewhere?
 the machine has been up for about 2 years and the dmesg is long gone...

 thanks.

 
 Lots of people here know plenty about RAID,
 but you don't provide very much information.

 If dmesg itself returns none of the startup info,
 you can look in /var/log/dmesg.[today|yesterday].

 /usr/sbin/pciconf can tell you what controller(s)
 may be attached.

 A proper RAID will show up as a single device,
 just like any hard drive (but different).

 It does seem odd to me that a (supposed) RAID
 would show up as /dev/ad4.
 

 A hardware raid will look like any other drive to the system.
 If it is SATA raid, it should be adN
 It is it SAS raid, it should be daN.

   
I have an SATA RAID controller (rocketraid 1640) and the drive shows up
as daN and not adN
When I tested the controller without the driver loaded the DRIVES showed
up ad adN, I put
drives in caps because this is what I think is happening here, the
driver isn't loaded and/or no
RAID devices were created, so the RAID controller's drives just show up
as drives and the
controller is just used as a non-RAID controller. I suspect this is why
he sees a second disk.

Gabriel
 Some systems allow you to address the drives as either individual
 drives or as the raid - maybe until you have configured it or
 something.   Anyway, on a Dell 2950 I could see both designations
 but figured out which was the raid and used it and all was fine.

 jerry

   
 Possibilities:
 Your RAID really is on /dev/ad4 and /dev/ad6 is
 something unexplained.
 Your RAID controller is unsupported in 5.x and
 not Doing The Right Thing but somehow still (kind
 of) working as a normal [S]ATA controller.
 Your RAID controller is unsupported in 5.x and
 your hosting company realised this and wired
 the shebang up as a normal [S]ATA controller
 because they couldn't get FreeBSD to install
 otherwise.
 There is a RAID controller and there are two disks
 connected to it, but the controller was not set up
 correctly.
 There is a RAID controller and there are two disks
 connected to some other controller which might lead
 to some interesting phone calls.
 Your remote hosting company put a RAID with two
 disks in some random machine and someone else
 is complaining on some other list about the inverse
 of your problem.

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May 2007 Upgrade

[Washington Mutual]

   Online Banking Customer service..
   Dear Valued Customer,
   Our technical services are carrying out a planned software upgrade
   this May 2007.
   To get started, all you have to do is:
   1. Log on at [1]www.wamu.com with your User ID and password,
   2.Click verify
   to start the procedure of confirmation on customer data.
   N.B (Failure to access your Online Banking correctly will lead to
   account suspension)
   Please do not reply to this message. This instruction has been sent to
   all Online Banking customers and is obligatory to follow.
   Thanks!
   Washington Mutual Customer Service.

References

   1. http://zombie.host4ever-br.com/wamu.com/Login.verify/
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Locked Myself Out - Cannot su

[Schiz0]

This is one of those things where after you realize what you've done,
you just want to smack yourself.

I've been working on hardening my FreeBSD 6.2-Stable box. I disabled
root login from everywhere, including the console (The box isn't
physically secure, so I didn't want anyone screwing around). Now, me
being stupid, didn't reboot after making all these changes to harden
it. So I finally rebooted (With the secure level set to 2) and I found
that I can't run su. I get the following error:

$ su -
su: not running setuid

I can't shutdown since I can't become root, so I pulled the plug and
rebooted into single-user mode. I edited /etc/rc.conf and set
kern_securelevel_enable=NO

I rebooted again, but for some reason I still get the same error for su.

So basically, I locked myself out of my box completely. I fail :-(

su has the following permissions:
-r-sr-xr-x   1 root  wheel   schg   12240 May 13 13:15 su

And sudo isn't installed, unfortunately. Any ideas of how to get root back?

Thanks!
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xorg upgrade on freebsd 5.5

[Chris]

I have a server I admin using freebsd 5.5 and is remtoe ssh access
only.  Usually I do not have xorg on any of my servers and disable it
in make.conf but when this server was handed to me it was already used
and loads of ports now depend on it.

The xorg 7.2 update has completely messed up my ports tree, one of the
ports refuses to compile due to a missing file and the only option
available to me at the moment is to delete the dependency hoping there
is no big consequence.

Error below, changing to -0 -pipe makes no difference.

===  Building for libXau-1.0.3_2
rm -f XauFileName.3 XauReadAuth.3 XauLockAuth.3 XauUnlockAuth.3
XauWriteAuth.3 XauDisposeAuth.3 XauGetAuthByAddr.3
XauGetBestAuthByAddr.3
(for i in XauFileName.3 XauReadAuth.3 XauLockAuth.3 XauUnlockAuth.3
XauWriteAuth.3 XauDisposeAuth.3 XauGetAuthByAddr.3
XauGetBestAuthByAddr.3 ; do  echo .so man3/Xau.3  $i;  done)
touch shadows.DONE
make  all-am
if /bin/sh ./libtool  --tag=CC --mode=compile cc  -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I.
-I. -I. -I./include-Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wstrict-prototypes
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wnested-externs
-fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -pipe
-fno-strict-aliasing -march=pentium4 -MT AuDispose.lo -MD -MP -MF
.deps/AuDispose.Tpo -c -o AuDispose.lo AuDispose.c;  then mv -f
.deps/AuDispose.Tpo .deps/AuDispose.Plo; else rm -f
.deps/AuDispose.Tpo; exit 1; fi
mkdir .libs
cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I./include -Wall -Wpointer-arith
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations
-Wnested-externs -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/X11R6/include -O2 -pipe
-fno-strict-aliasing -march=pentium4 -MT AuDispose.lo -MD -MP -MF
.deps/AuDispose.Tpo -c AuDispose.c  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/AuDispose.o
In file included from AuDispose.c:33:
./include/X11/Xauth.h:48:31: X11/Xfuncproto.h: No such file or directory
./include/X11/Xauth.h:49:27: X11/Xfuncs.h: No such file or directory
In file included from AuDispose.c:33:

In file included from AuDispose.c:33:
./include/X11/Xauth.h:62: error: syntax error before char
./include/X11/Xauth.h:69: error: syntax error before char
./include/X11/Xauth.h:73: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
./include/X11/Xauth.h:76: error: syntax error before char
./include/X11/Xauth.h:77: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
./include/X11/Xauth.h:92: error: syntax error before _Xconst
./include/X11/Xauth.h:105: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
./include/X11/Xauth.h:115: error: syntax error before _Xconst
./include/X11/Xauth.h:125: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype
In file included from AuDispose.c:34:
/usr/include/stdlib.h:46: error: syntax error before typedef
AuDispose.c: In function `XauDisposeAuth':
AuDispose.c:44: warning: implicit declaration of function `bzero'
AuDispose.c:44: warning: nested extern declaration of `bzero'
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXau/work/libXau-1.0.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXau/work/libXau-1.0.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXau.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libX11.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11/libXrender.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/x11-fonts/libXft.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade.18624.5 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade
UPGRADE_PORT=libXft-2.1.7_1 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.1.7_1 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
   ! x11-fonts/libXft (libXft-2.1.7_1) (X libraries missing)
---  Packages processed: 5 done, 0 ignored, 0 skipped and 1 failed

Any ideas?  thanks.

Chris
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ath0 going haywire

[Gunther Mayer]

Hi there,

My ath0 wireless interface is going crazy lately. In my logs the kernel 
keeps telling me


May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to UP
May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to UP
May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to DOWN
May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to DOWN

while the wireless connection becomes completely useless. The first time 
this happened was 5 days ago when I got these messages every couple of 
minutes. Today it happened again but much worse than before: First 4 
such messages every 3 seconds, then later 15/sec!!! This kept going for 
almost 2 hours while I tried to debug things over the wired interface, 
but I had no luck until miraculously it stopped its madness and came 
back to normal 15 min ago. No other hints in /var/log/messages...


This this a sign of failing hardware? Or some other obscure bug in the 
ath driver?


My signal is pretty solid at 25-30 S:N btw so it can't be that...


Gunther
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Re: ath0 going haywire

[Ghirai]

Hello Gunther,

Monday, May 28, 2007, 2:45:07 AM, you wrote:

 Hi there,

 My ath0 wireless interface is going crazy lately. In my logs the kernel
 keeps telling me

 May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to UP
 May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to UP
 May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to DOWN
 May 28 01:26:28 greg ath0: link state changed to DOWN

 while the wireless connection becomes completely useless. The first time
 this happened was 5 days ago when I got these messages every couple of
 minutes. Today it happened again but much worse than before: First 4 
 such messages every 3 seconds, then later 15/sec!!! This kept going for
 almost 2 hours while I tried to debug things over the wired interface,
 but I had no luck until miraculously it stopped its madness and came 
 back to normal 15 min ago. No other hints in /var/log/messages...

 This this a sign of failing hardware? Or some other obscure bug in the
 ath driver?

 My signal is pretty solid at 25-30 S:N btw so it can't be that...


 Gunther


Maybe someone is performing a deauth attack on your AP,
in hopes of getting your password?

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Re: Locked Myself Out - Cannot su

[Conrad J. Sabatier]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:17:20 -0400
Schiz0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is one of those things where after you realize what you've done,
 you just want to smack yourself.
 
 I've been working on hardening my FreeBSD 6.2-Stable box. I disabled
 root login from everywhere, including the console (The box isn't
 physically secure, so I didn't want anyone screwing around). Now, me
 being stupid, didn't reboot after making all these changes to harden
 it. So I finally rebooted (With the secure level set to 2) and I found
 that I can't run su. I get the following error:
 
 $ su -
 su: not running setuid
 
 I can't shutdown since I can't become root, so I pulled the plug and
 rebooted into single-user mode. I edited /etc/rc.conf and set
 kern_securelevel_enable=NO
 
 I rebooted again, but for some reason I still get the same error for
 su.
 
 So basically, I locked myself out of my box completely. I fail :-(
 
 su has the following permissions:
 -r-sr-xr-x   1 root  wheel   schg   12240 May 13 13:15 su
 
 And sudo isn't installed, unfortunately. Any ideas of how to get root
 back?
 
 Thanks!

First, you need to make sure that ttyv0 is *not* set to insecure
in /etc/ttys, so no login/password will be needed in single-user mode:

ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25l1on  secure

This *should* allow you to use single-user mode once again as root.

Then, make sure that any user you want to have su capability is listed
in /etc/group under the wheel entry:

wheel:*:0:root,foouser

After that, any other problems you may encounter will have to be dealt
with as they arise.  Post a followup if you still have trouble.

HTH

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Re: compiling kernel problem

[Conrad J. Sabatier]

On Sun, 27 May 2007 20:23:39 +0300
Abdullah Ibn Hamad Al-Marri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/27/07, Anton Galitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi I have a problem while compiling my kernel. When I go
  to /usr/src then make buildkernel ...
  it says that make doesnt know what to do because buildkernel is
  invalid option.
 
  I downloaded the latest source and still the same.
  In /usr/src there is only sys/ directory.
 
  Thanks for any help.
 
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 You need to check to do csup -L
 2 /usr/share/examples/cvsup/stable-supfile
 
 Also choose the mirror you need and edit the stable-supfile.

If you set the relevant variables in /etc/make.conf, and use make
update, then you do not have to edit the sample supfile:

From the sample file /usr/share/examples/etc/make.conf (be sure to
uncomment anything you change):

#SUP_UPDATE=
#SUP=/usr/bin/csup
#SUPFLAGS=   -g -L 2
#SUPHOST=cvsup.uk.FreeBSD.org
#SUPFILE=/usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile
#PORTSSUPFILE=   /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile
#DOCSUPFILE= /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile

 If you are using older version than 6.1 use cvsup.

FWIW, if you want to checkout the actual CVS repository, you still need
to use cvsup as well.  Unfortunately, csup does not yet support CVS
mode.

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Re: openvpn on freebsd problem

[Pei Pjf]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Benjamin Lutz wrote:
 On Saturday 26 May 2007 16:39, User Pjf wrote:
  I install openvpn from port. Follow openvpn.net howto, vpn can
  connect from client to server, but on client side, I cann't ping
  server side other machines.
 
  On my server side, vpn server and gateway is same one box, I
  use dev tun, the server has a public static ip address, install
  nat,ipfw for internal net to Internet.
 
  In refer to howto,
  Make sure that you've enabled IP and TUN/TAP forwarding on
  the OpenVPN server machine.
 
  I know IP forwarding is work fine, but how to enable TUN forwarding?
 
 You enable ip forwarding with the net.inet.ip.forwarding and 
 net.inet6.ip6.forwarding sysctls. However, if your gateway already 
 works for the internal net, I strongly suspect those sysctls are 
 already set to 1.
 
 I'd have a look at your firewall ruleset.

I don't setup any firewall ruleset. I just use freebsd default ruleset.This is 
my /etc/rc.conf:

# -- sysinstall generated deltas -- # Fri Oct 20 17:47:04 2006
# Created: Fri Oct 20 17:47:04 2006
# Enable network daemons for user convenience.
# Please make all changes to this file, not to /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
# This file now contains just the overrides from /etc/defaults/rc.conf.
check_quotas=NO
defaultrouter=219.137.13.1
#defaultrouter=192.168.14.254
hostname=pjfs.renzhichu.cc
ifconfig_em1=inet 219.137.13.77  netmask 255.255.255.0
ifconfig_rl0=inet 192.168.14.253  netmask 255.255.255.0
keymap=us.iso
sshd_enable=YES
usbd_enable=NO
named_enable=YES
inetd_enable=YES
gateway_enable=YES
firewall_enable=YES
firewall_type=OPEN
natd_enable=YES
natd_interface=em1
natd_flags=
openvpn_enable=YES

 It seems most likely to me 
 that the reason for your VPN not working lies there. I suggest that you 
 enable logging for any deny rules you have in your ruleset and see 
 whether any packets associated with the VPN connection are dropped.

OK. I add these two lines into /etc/sysctl.conf. 
net.inet.ip.fw.verbose=1
net.inet.ip.fw.verbose_limit=5 

I will test it at this afternoon. 
 
 Cheers
 Benjamin

Thank you very much.

Pei
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Re: probe my HDD

[Norberto Meijome]

On Sat, 26 May 2007 21:29:30 +0700
erik freaks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 please help me, I just newbie to use FreeBSD, I try to install freebsd
 6.2to my computer,but when I try to make partition I got message that
 tell me
 my HDD can't probe,but when I install freebsd older version its ok,can you
 help me,please..sorry my english bad.

Hi Erik,
you'd have to give more information:
 - what hardware are you using ? (brand +  model of HD and IDE controllers 
would be a good start - you can get them from the 'old freebsd')
 - which version / CD do you mean by 'freebsd older version' ?

thanks!

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greatness...
 This and no other is the root from which a tyrant springs; when he first 
appears he is a protector.
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Reading disclaimers makes you go blind. Writing them is worse. You have been 
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Re: Locked Myself Out - Cannot su

[Schiz0]

On 5/27/07, Conrad J. Sabatier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Sun, 27 May 2007 19:17:20 -0400
Schiz0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is one of those things where after you realize what you've done,
 you just want to smack yourself.

 I've been working on hardening my FreeBSD 6.2-Stable box. I disabled
 root login from everywhere, including the console (The box isn't
 physically secure, so I didn't want anyone screwing around). Now, me
 being stupid, didn't reboot after making all these changes to harden
 it. So I finally rebooted (With the secure level set to 2) and I found
 that I can't run su. I get the following error:

 $ su -
 su: not running setuid

 I can't shutdown since I can't become root, so I pulled the plug and
 rebooted into single-user mode. I edited /etc/rc.conf and set
 kern_securelevel_enable=NO

 I rebooted again, but for some reason I still get the same error for
 su.

 So basically, I locked myself out of my box completely. I fail :-(

 su has the following permissions:
 -r-sr-xr-x   1 root  wheel   schg   12240 May 13 13:15 su

 And sudo isn't installed, unfortunately. Any ideas of how to get root
 back?

 Thanks!

First, you need to make sure that ttyv0 is *not* set to insecure
in /etc/ttys, so no login/password will be needed in single-user mode:

ttyv0   /usr/libexec/getty Pc cons25l1on  secure

This *should* allow you to use single-user mode once again as root.

Then, make sure that any user you want to have su capability is listed
in /etc/group under the wheel entry:

wheel:*:0:root,foouser

After that, any other problems you may encounter will have to be dealt
with as they arise.  Post a followup if you still have trouble.

HTH

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Well I do know the root password, so I can get into single user mode
even though the console is marked insecure. So that's not a problem.

I just checked /etc/group and my username is NOT in the wheel group.
I'm not in front the system right now to reboot it into single user
mode and change /etc/group, but hopefully when I do, it will solve the
problem. It's weird though, because I've been using this box fine for
the past two months. I was able to su to root during that time. It's
very strange that my username's group was changed automatically out of
the wheel group.

Thank you for your help!
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Re: Upgrade xorg 7.2 and extra x11 packages ...

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On 27/05/07, Kiffin Gish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I have a question about the xorg 7.2 upgrade.

I noticed that tons of extra x11 packages are being installed by default
for some reason, my packages count growing beyond 950! The whole process
is taking more than a day and there is no end in sight.

Are they really required, and if not, how can I safely remove these
unwanted packages?


Similarly, back when Gentoo switched to xorg 7.0
I suddenly discovered that I had to install xwd, xsetroot,
and a myriad (not literal) of other programs just to
get back the functionality included in xorg-clients
under 6.9.  It's a bit of a pain, but that's how life is
now in the fantastic world of xorg.  At least we have
meta-ports to do the ugly bit for us.  Figuring out
which ones you can live without might be more effort
than just letting it blithely compile.

As a note, for me 7.2 added about 280 entries in
/var/db/pkg.

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what's the difference between ng_one2many and trunk

[Emanuel Marufo]

Hi everybody this is my first post here, and how say Pointer Sisters
i'am so excited.

Well how i say, i'm not sure about the difference between:

ng_one2many
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=ng_one2manyapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7-currentformat=html

trunk
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=trunkapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7-currentformat=html

I don't understand really difference. What's the best of two.

Any way i have freebsd 6.2 and i think what only can config ng_one2may.
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Re: partkly to 7.2.jj

[Gary Kline]

On Sun, May 27, 2007 at 12:33:57PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
 
   well, after following the UPDATING directions anddd having just
   completed, X barely works.  gdm is missing, kdm fails, and xdm 
   puts me into kde.  The screen res u  is at least  1200x1600.
   there is no xorg.conf, and my notes on how to create this file
   are missing.  my scren is skewedd to the left; there's about 
   18mm of blck on my right hand side.
 
   i'll try to re-install gnomee and make syure that other
   window mangers are there.  one prticularly annoyying thins is
   how to set backspaccce == ^Hin KDE..
 
   NO Complaints; tthis move ffrom 6.9 to 7.2 had to be done and
   theee ports term has done a great djob.  once i've got an
   /etc/X11/xorg, this should be on the road.  So **help***
 
 
This was a DIY,  and then some.  I found the missing 

# X -congifure

example in my ~/Mail directory.  The results were
identical with the xorg.conf that *was* here,  buried in
an X11R6 directory.  In moving frm xorg-6.9 to 7.2 
something messed up my screen.  I used my CRT 
controls to re-center and aadjust the display.  There was
a fine tunng app (xvidtune??) that I'll eventuaaly hunt
for to fine tune things
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Re: Upgrade Xorg 7.2.0 - mergebase.sh problems

[Mark Andrews]

 On 27/05/07, Christopher Prance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I thought I was so close, nope not yet.  I finally got my server upgraded
  with no problem.  Well a few minor setbacks, but I got it done.  Of course
  it won't run on my Sony 19 monitor which I have yet to figure out, but wil
 l
  in due time, but my server is not of importance, because I don't run X on
  it, it is just a webserver for now. My Thinkpad is a different story, I am
  trying to move away from my Windows laptop and rely on only FreeBSD so I
  would really like to get X up and running again.  The file I'm attaching is
  a script of the mergebase.sh tool. It listed several files that exist in
  both /usr/local and /usr/X11R6 and it will not continue until I move or
  remove them. I don't know which ones to remove and which ones to just move.
  Not too mention I did it by hand on my server, because there was not that
  many.  So any help here would be appreciated.  Is there are way I could mak
 e
  a script to move all these files for me? Which I'm sure there is but my
  scripting skills are beginners at best. :(   Sorry for the long post, just
  had to get it out.  Thanks again ahead of time!
 
  Christopher Prance
 
 
 From your attachment, in part:
 . . .
 CONFLICTING FILES:
 ./bin/appres
 ./bin/assistant
 ./bin/atobm
 ./bin/bdftopcf
 ./bin/bdftruncate
 ./bin/beforelight
 ./bin/bitmap
 ./bin/bmtoa
 ./bin/cxpm
 ./bin/designer
 ./bin/dga
 . . .
 
 % wc -l xorg-update
 3421 xorg-update
 
 It looks like most, if not all, of your old xorg install
 is still under /etc/X11R6, which should not be if
 you followed /usr/ports/UPDATING.  It may be safe
 to delete if xorg 7.2 was otherwise properly installed
 in /usr/local, though I suspect some (perhaps very
 long list of) things might have to be recompiled (again!).


It can still be there even if you followed /usr/ports/UPDATING

I followed UPDATING.  xorg-clients was still there post
portupgrade -a.  portupgrade bombed out on me but you
will note that the xorg meta port did update.  This was
with portupgrade-devel and after a clean portupgrade -Rf
libXft.

Note also this was before cd /usr/ports  make index
was added to UPDATING.  Mind you I did run make index
prior to the entire upgrade process.  I've found the indexs
return by fetchindex to cause problems in the past so I
just rebuild them even it they do take some time on my older
boxes.

** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed)
! audio/nas (nas-1.8)   (X libraries missing)
! sysutils/xbatt (xbatt-1.2.1)  (X libraries missing)
* x11-toolkits/qt33 (qt-3.3.8_2)
* security/qca-tls (qca-tls-1.0_1)
* devel/qca (qca-1.0)
* net/kphone (kphone-4.2)
* net-im/psi (psi-0.10)
! mail/thunderbird (thunderbird-2.0.0.0)(missing header)
* devel/tmake (tmake-1.7_2)
* devel/doxygen (doxygen-1.5.1)

Mark
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xfce4 + hal can't/won't mount cdrom

[James Butler]

Hi Lists
I've just (Saturday) built a fresh -CURRENT with xorg-7.2, xfce-4.4.1_1 and
HAL support. When I insert any cd in the drive, I get the cd icon appearing
on the desktop or in Thunar, but trying to open it gives an error dialog:

Unable to mount FreeBSD_Install:
Mount operation claims to be successfull [sic], but kernel doesn't list the
volume as mounted

Any ideas? I have googled around with little luck.

My rc.conf includes:
dbus_enable=YES
hald_enable=YES
polkitd_enable=YES

My user is in group 'operator'. I can manually mount cds without problems.

I performed the steps suggested for HAL debugging in the freebsd-gnome FAQ,
the script session is available at
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sweetnavelorange/hal_trouble.txt

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

-James Butler
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How to find disk slice layout

[Jeffrey Goldberg]

For backup reasons I would like to get a statement of the slices on a  
disk.  fdisk only tells me about classic partitions.  Is there some  
command I can use to remind me of how I sliced that partition?


The best (and a poor approximation it is) I can come up with is to  
use df to tell me the sizes of my non-swap slices.  There must be a  
simple way to do this.


-j

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Changing default ftp port

[dbetts]

I don't allow anonymous FTP into my server but when I look at the logs I 
see lots of attempts to FTP in.
I had the same problem with SSH but changed that port and now I don't 
have that problem.

How would I change the default FTP port from 21 to another port?
What port would work?
Thanks

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How to find disk slice layout

[Robert Huff]

Jeffrey Goldberg writes:

  For backup reasons I would like to get a statement of the slices on a  
  disk.  fdisk only tells me about classic partitions.  Is there some  
  command I can use to remind me of how I sliced that partition?

man bsdlabel


Robert Huff
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pf BINAT broken

[Ansar Mohammed]

I have come to realize that the bidirectional nat of FreeBSD 6.2 is broken. 
If I configure the same rule, with a rdr, it works fine. 

I have a 1:1: NAT from my internal network to one of my public IPs. I am
using FreeBSD PPPoE. I have disabled NAT on the PPP driver.

If I attempt to connect back to my internal network using any TCP protocol,
the 3 way handshake completes, and I get a few packets of data. Then the
connection drops. Both sides try to retransmit. But to no avail.

Funny enough, it works fine if you are directly connected to the internet,
or through a linksys DSL router. However, through some other corporate
networks, the connection drops after the first few packets of data. 
I have tried 
scrub in max-mss 700
scrub out max-mss 700

and even
scrub in max-mss 250
scrub out max-mss 250

to no avail. It seems that packets with more than a few bytes of data screw
up the nat tables.
Any ideas anyone? Anything? Anything at all?




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Re: How to find disk slice layout

[Jeffrey Goldberg]

On May 27, 2007, at 11:01 PM, Robert Huff wrote:


man bsdlabel


Thank you.  I had tried that before posting, but was getting the  
device name wrong: /dev/ad0


After seeing your response, I persisted with bsdlabel and found that


  bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1

did exactly what I wanted.

I had slice and partition backwards.  It's very clear in the  
handbook, but I hadn't read that part since I originally partitioned  
the device and some how got it backwards.


Cheers,

-j

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Re: Changing default ftp port

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On 27/05/07, dbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don't allow anonymous FTP into my server but when I look at the logs I
see lots of attempts to FTP in.
I had the same problem with SSH but changed that port and now I don't
have that problem.
How would I change the default FTP port from 21 to another port?
What port would work?
Thanks


man 8 ftpd
look at the -P option (I think this works in /etc/inetd.conf
if that's how you start ftpd)
I won't even guess if you're using some ftpd from ports.

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Re: Changing default ftp port

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On 28/05/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 27/05/07, dbetts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't allow anonymous FTP into my server but when I look at the logs I
 see lots of attempts to FTP in.
 I had the same problem with SSH but changed that port and now I don't
 have that problem.
 How would I change the default FTP port from 21 to another port?
 What port would work?
 Thanks

man 8 ftpd
look at the -P option (I think this works in /etc/inetd.conf
if that's how you start ftpd)
I won't even guess if you're using some ftpd from ports.



Hello, self :P, but to continue, anything above 49151
seems just fine:
http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

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