Re: Installation hangs during Archive extraction phase (9.1)

2013-07-26 Thread bw.mail.lists

On 7/26/2013 12:00 PM, Ewald Jenisch wrote:

Hi,

Upon trying to install FreeBSD 9.1 on a HP Proliant DL585G5
installation freezes when it comes to the point Archive Extraction
while extracting ports.

To be specific, the system freezes while extracting ports.txz at 23%
with Overal Progress being 29%.


You don't actually need to install ports.txz. All it does is populate 
/usr/ports, but you can do that after install using portsnap as 
documented in the handbook 
(http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html):


portsnap fetch
portsnap extract




First I thought about the installation medium, so I re-burned the
installation CD (disc1), tried the DVD-installation, even installing
over the network - the machine always freezes when it comes to archive
extraction.

For the hardware part:
HP Proliant DL585G5
128GB RAM
8 HDs a 146GB: two of them in Raid-1, the remainder Raid0
2x onboard LAN: (HP NC371i)
2 addon NIC-cards with 2 ports each (HP NC360T)

Harddisk has been set up with GPT, for the test automatic
partitioning.

Has anybody out there seen this type of problem? If yes, any known
cure/hint/???

Thanks much in advance for any clue,
-ewald

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Re: Installation hangs during Archive extraction phase (9.1)

2013-07-26 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:16:32PM +0200, bw.mail.lists wrote:
 You don't actually need to install ports.txz. All it does is populate 
 /usr/ports, but you can do that after install using portsnap as 
 documented in the handbook 
 (http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html):
 
 portsnap fetch
 portsnap extract
 

Hi,

Thanks for the hint. Now I could finish the installation (which takes
like forever (speaking in terms of 2 hours which is pretty strange
given the raw power of this machine)) however after rebooting the box
behaves weird to say the last:

I started out be entering portsnap fetch. Everything runs fine up to
the point when I see Verifying snapshot integrity. Then the system
completely comes to a grind. After sending the portsnap fetch to the
background (^Z) and entering top the machine completely freezes
without any indication as to why.

I've already done a complete hardware diagnosis - everything OK.

Any ideas on how to track this one down?

Thanks much in advance,
-ewald
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Re: Installation hangs during Archive extraction phase (9.1)

2013-07-26 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Ewald Jenisch a...@jenisch.at wrote:

 On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:16:32PM +0200, bw.mail.lists wrote:
  You don't actually need to install ports.txz. All it does is populate
  /usr/ports, but you can do that after install using portsnap as
  documented in the handbook
  (
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports-using.html
 ):
 
  portsnap fetch
  portsnap extract
 

 Hi,

 Thanks for the hint. Now I could finish the installation (which takes
 like forever (speaking in terms of 2 hours which is pretty strange
 given the raw power of this machine)) however after rebooting the box
 behaves weird to say the last:

 I started out be entering portsnap fetch. Everything runs fine up to
 the point when I see Verifying snapshot integrity. Then the system
 completely comes to a grind. After sending the portsnap fetch to the
 background (^Z) and entering top the machine completely freezes
 without any indication as to why.

 I've already done a complete hardware diagnosis - everything OK.

 Any ideas on how to track this one down?


Don't install ports during installation, try using 8.4 or 9.1BETA1 instead


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portmaster: hal-0.5.14_20 and xorg-server-1.7.7_6, 1 (re)installation fails

2012-12-18 Thread Bas Smeelen
When running portmaster -d -w -r pcre because of the upgrade from 
pcre-8.31 to pcre-8.32 I encountered the following inconveniences:


Upgrade to hal-0.5.14_20 failed with the message it needs intltool  
0.40 which was installed at the time. First upgrading to intltool-0.41.1 
solved this.


When reinstalling xorg-server-1.7.7_6,1 with portmaster today:

Making install in xkb
mkdir: /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/compiled: No such file or directory
mkdir: /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/compiled: No such file or directory

So I checked /usr/local/share/X11/xkb/compiled and this is a symlink to 
/var/lib/xkb which did not exist at the time. I created /var/lib/xkb and 
the installation went fine then. There is one file installed in this 
location: README.compiled


This worked, but is it the right solution? Does anyone know what changed 
maybe?


This is on 9.1-RELEASE with a portstree just updated with portsnap. 
Previous versions of the ports were from about 20 days ago. Everything 
is installed the standard way.


Just if someone runs into these issues these may be found in the list 
(or already have been solved in ports) Things like this do not happen 
too often.


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Re: installation of yuma

2012-09-19 Thread ahmed elouadrhiri
thank you a lot Steve;

it's worked very well.

Best regards

2012/9/18 Steve O'Hara-Smith at...@sohara.org

 On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:25:03 +
 ahmed elouadrhiri ahmedelouadrh...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all;
 
  i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : make freebsd=1
 
  and it give me :
   Makefile, line 14: Need an operator

 At a guess you need to use gmake (you may need to install it first
 from the ports).

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Re: installation of yuma

2012-09-18 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:25:03 +
ahmed elouadrhiri ahmedelouadrh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all;
 
 i tried to install yuma in freebsd by the command : make freebsd=1
 
 and it give me :
  Makefile, line 14: Need an operator

At a guess you need to use gmake (you may need to install it first
from the ports).

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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread Da Rock

On 02/23/12 00:04, herbert langhans wrote:

Hi Daemons,
yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31.

Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to
such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel
scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible.

Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?

The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD.
Interesting. Could it be some setting in the bios? USB legacy option or 
such that could be stopping it?

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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:04:12 +0100, herbert langhans wrote:
 Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
 another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
 harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
 what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?

I've done this with a very old laptop (where I did install
its 2.5 disk using an adapter in a normal PC). After
that, booting performed normally. I've also used a 5.4-p12
PATA disk on a system that previously ran 7-STABLE during
a data recovery session - it also booted fine, except X
didn't come up (xorg.conf had hardcoded S3, system had
an ATI card). But the OS never did anything strange.

The only issue I say _may_ be boot loading device names
(e. g. if the disk will be ad0 in the run-laptop, but
ad4 in the install-laptop); using GPT partitioning or
labels should avoid this problem.

FreeBSD is totally agnostic of this is not the system
I've been installed to. Hardware detection will take
place when you boot it, _not_ when you install it.

After you have installed the OS, see if it properly boots
(or if scanning the USB ports causes a kernel lock again).
Do any further installs  (ports / packages) from the new
laptop.

It's also worth mentioning that you need to have the
capability to run the same architecture (i386 or amd64)
on both machines, and use the proper install image
(e. g. don't try to install amd64 version of the OS
on a system that doesn't run it). :-)



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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 February 2012 09:04, herbert langhans w...@langhans.com.pl wrote:
 Hi Daemons,
 yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31.

 Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to
 such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel
 scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible.

 Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
 another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
 harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
 what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?

 The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD.

 http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:X31  has a lot of good advice,
though it tends to be a bit more linux-centric.

I bought a cheap ATA - USB adapter that had a lap-top style
44-pin connector (in addition to the usual 40-pin IDE) and
installed i386 on an old X40 from a running copy of amd64
(make TARGET_ARCH=i386 buildworld
make TARGET_ARCH=i386 installworld DESTDIR=/mnt/x40disk
cet
after setting up and mounting the proper partitions)
It worked fine, outside of the flaky intel 2100 wireless chip.

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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Wednesday 22 February 2012 21:04:12 herbert langhans wrote:
 Hi Daemons,
 yesterday I tried to install FreeBSD 9 on my 'new' laptop - an IBM X31.
 
 Since this model has no CD or floppy drive I copied the memstick-file to
 such an USB-thing and tried to boot. The laptop freezes when the kernel
 scans for the UBS-ports, booting impossible.
 
 Now my question: can I take the harddisk out, install FreeBSD 9 over
 another laptop (with the X31-harddisk inside) and put the installed
 harddrive back to the X31? Is there anything else besides the rc.d-stuff
 what will/will not get installed if I use the 'wrong' computer?
 
 The old hd-cotent will be deleted, the new laptop will only be FreeBSD.
 
 All ideas welcome, thank you
 herb langhans
 
I did this several times before but I used to connect the hard disk via USB. 
Just get an USB case for the disk. It is much easier this way as you keep one 
notebook intact.

You have to check the drives in fstab and rc.conf.

If I remember right the rest was ok.

Erich
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Re: Installation troubles

2012-02-22 Thread herbert langhans
Thanks for all the hints - now I have some point to go on. First I try
to use 8.2 from the memstick. If that fails I get such a little adapter
and install it from a normal PC (using the CD). 

I'll let you know after my homework is done. Good to know that FreeBSD has
some neutral kernel and chooses all drivers when it boots.

Late on!
herb langhans

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Re: Installation difficulties

2011-12-11 Thread R Skinner

On 12/11/11 16:01, Jeffry Killen wrote:

Hello;
I am not new to FreeBSD, but it has been a while since I worked with it.
The last version I obtained from FreeBSD Mall is 7.2. The jewel case
is marked with a date of May 2009, so it is a little behind. But I 
expected it
to boot the i386 version installer, which it did on an Intel 64 bit 
processor.
The 64 bit version is marked 'AMD64'.  I would have gotten a laptop 
with AMD
but this particular seller (Linux Certified) did not have one 
available when
I was ready to buy.  So now I am at it because the warrantee on the 
laptop

has expired.

So, I installed x-developer and attempted to install Apache from the 
included

ports. None of the listed version would install:  error code -1.

I also tried MySQL. The first time it also failed to install. But did 
sysinstall and tried

a different version than originally selected, and it did install.

Since I wanted the GUI, I ran xinit when I got a shell prompt and 
xwindows
failed to load and run, the error is failed to load module fbdev 
(module does

not exist).

Perhaps this is not an issue that can be addressed practically, here, 
which is
alright with me. But short of getting another DVD and trying to 
install from that

is there a way to deal, at least with the fbdev complaint?

My experience with FreeBSD goes back to 6.0, setting up and running 
servers,
specifically web servers.  This is going to be a development server, 
as it had

been when it had Ubuntu Linux.

Thank you for time and attention;
JK
I'd download at least 8.2 (amd64 if you like, but you can stick to 
i386), and do a basic install (no ports or packages- yet). Once running 
execute freebsd-update fetch install as root, then portsnap fetch 
extract. With that done, then go into ports and install what you want 
from there by entering the directory of the port you want to install 
(say www/apache22) and running make install clean. You'll have options 
to select and away you go.


If you can wait a few weeks (9.0-Release guys: back me up :) ), install 
the disk you have there and install in the same way so you have 
something to play around with and get your feet wet until 9. Or try 
9.0-RC3, you can get release using freebsd-update.


And above all: to do that you are going to become very good friends with 
the FreeBSD Handbook 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/


HTH
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Re: Installation difficulties

2011-12-11 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 11/12/2011 06:01, Jeffry Killen wrote:
 So, I installed x-developer and attempted to install Apache from the
 included
 ports. None of the listed version would install:  error code -1.

7.2 is out of support now, see: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html

Inter-alia this means that there won't be packages available on the FTP
servers specifically for that version.  Unless you've got all your
necessary packages on your DVD you aren't going to have much luck there.

 I also tried MySQL. The first time it also failed to install. But did
 sysinstall and tried
 a different version than originally selected, and it did install.

Verb. Sap.  sysinstall(8) as a system management tool is like those
dinky little training wheels kids get on their first bikes.  Best to
learn how to use pkg_add(1) from the command line; it will give you much
better results in the end, and be a lot less frustrating to debug if it
goes wrong.

 Since I wanted the GUI, I ran xinit when I got a shell prompt and xwindows
 failed to load and run, the error is failed to load module fbdev
 (module does
 not exist).

That can optionally be installed from the x11-drives/xorg-drivers port,
but it's not enabled by default, so you won't find it in a precompiled
package.  You'll need to install a copy of the ports tree and use it to
compile from source, selecting the fbdev option in that port.

However, first I'd recommend updating your system to the latest
available (given it is a new install of FreeBSD).  There are several
possible ways of doing that -- peruse the Handbook for details -- but
probably the path of least effort would be to download a new DVD or USB
stick installer image and start again with that.  It's free, apart from
the cost of media, bandwidth and your time.

Also, if you want a quick start into a desktop based system, PC-BSD is
probably worth a look.  That's FreeBSD underneath, but with a lot of
GUI-ness layered on top as part of their standard system.  You should be
able to run mysql and other servers on it just as if you were on a
vanilla FreeBSD setup.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Installation difficulties

2011-12-11 Thread perryh
Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote:

 7.2 is out of support now, see:
 http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html

 Inter-alia this means that there won't be packages available
 on the FTP servers specifically for that version ...

What, exactly, _is_ the policy on retention of the -release package
sets?  8.1 _is_ still supported (until sometime in 2012 IIRC), but
ftp.freebsd.org seems to contain only 8.2-release and 8-stable.
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Re: Installation problem on AMD64

2011-02-22 Thread Jim Trigg
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Jim Trigg jtr...@spamcop.net wrote:
 I do an installation from DVD on AMD64, and when I reboot it hangs
 before displaying anything from the standard boot loader.  How can I
 debug this?

I found my problem by accident -- I had a badly formatted USB stick
connected.  (I had tried to write the memstick image to a 1G stick --
not quite large enough.)

Thanks,
Jim
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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-24 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Monday 23 August 2010 15:01:22 Mubeesh ali wrote:
 Hi,
 
 In my case(stuck at bios splash after freebsd install) ,i had to give it to
 acer support ,as i risked losing warranty if i opened/dismantled  my laptop.
 They have diagnosed harddrive to be faulty(the laptop is hardly 15 days old
 :-(  ).  The lappy was running ubuntu and fedora fine.
 
this is real bad luck.

 Hope this does not repeat with my next try at freebsd .

This was just a hardware fault not detected at the factory. This happens.

Good luck for your next installation.

Erich
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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-23 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:05:39 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Well, I don't have a memory stick, but I do have other hard drives,
 should I try it on the other HD's???

Have you been lucky to successfully boot from CD / DVD (1st question)
and install FreeBSD onto the hard disk (2nd question)? Did the result
then also boot (3rd question)?

In case you suspect the hard drive to be any faulty (or at least
acting strange), you could test with a spare disk. Doesn't need to
be a tenmelonhundredterabytes disk just for testing. :-)

I still suspect some remains of some Linux boot loader still present
on the disk...

If you have a floppy disk drive in your PC, you can download tomsRTBT,
a Linux that fits onto one diskette. You can then use its dd command
to wipe the first parts of the disk to make ENTIRELY SURE that there's
no interfereing rest of a Linux boot loader.




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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-23 Thread Mubeesh ali
Hi,

In my case(stuck at bios splash after freebsd install) ,i had to give it to
acer support ,as i risked losing warranty if i opened/dismantled  my laptop.
They have diagnosed harddrive to be faulty(the laptop is hardly 15 days old
:-(  ).  The lappy was running ubuntu and fedora fine.

Hope this does not repeat with my next try at freebsd .


thanks,
Mubeesh

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Mon, 23 Aug 2010 00:05:39 -0400, Derek Schwartz 
 derekschwart...@gmail.com wrote:
  Well, I don't have a memory stick, but I do have other hard drives,
  should I try it on the other HD's???

 Have you been lucky to successfully boot from CD / DVD (1st question)
 and install FreeBSD onto the hard disk (2nd question)? Did the result
 then also boot (3rd question)?

 In case you suspect the hard drive to be any faulty (or at least
 acting strange), you could test with a spare disk. Doesn't need to
 be a tenmelonhundredterabytes disk just for testing. :-)

 I still suspect some remains of some Linux boot loader still present
 on the disk...

 If you have a floppy disk drive in your PC, you can download tomsRTBT,
 a Linux that fits onto one diskette. You can then use its dd command
 to wipe the first parts of the disk to make ENTIRELY SURE that there's
 no interfereing rest of a Linux boot loader.




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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Roland Smith
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 01:01:08AM -0400, Derek Schwartz wrote:
 Hey, I'm trying to install the latest release of FreeBSD on my Dell
 Desktop, the computer originally had windows XP, but then the hard
 drive was wiped clean.
 I tried reconfiguring the geometry of the hard drive by using my Linux
 Ubuntu Disk Utility, I changed it to {0-a5} which I heard was for
 FreeBSD, but still no luck.

Well, 165 or 0xA5 is indeed the system partition ID for FreeBSD. But that has
nothing to do with the disk geometry (which is cilinders/heads/sectors and
which you should _not_ mess with).

Read and follow Chapter 2 of the freeBSD handbook; 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install.html

Pay attention to §2.6, Allocating Disk Space.

Since you are installing a desktop, I would recommend to create a separate
partition (in the FreeBSD Disklabel Editor, _not_ FDISK!) for your /home. That
makes it easier to separately back up the OS and your own data.


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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
//* I've re-included the list, hope that's okay.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:15:13 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 I re-formated the drive and it still gives me the same error error {0-01}

You don't need to format anything. Just make sure all kinds
of partitions are removed. If they are not, you should be
able to use FreeBSD's sysinstall program (stage fdisk)
to remove all existing partitions (key d), then add one
for FreeBSD (key a); this will automatically set the
correct ID.

What stage of installation, or what program, does issue this
error message? Does it come from the BIOS, the FreeBSD loader,
or the kernel, or sysinstall?



 anyway I can force it to install?

Install with an empty disk. FreeBSD does not require any
kind of preparation for its installation by 3rd party means.



Please have a look at the handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-start.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/using-sysinstall.html
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/install-steps.html

Can you be specific about in WHAT STAGE of the process you are
getting the mentioned error message?



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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
//* I've re-included the list, hope that's okay.

On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:02:25 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 as soon as a I put the cd in the computer for the first time.

Please try to avoid top-posting, as it counts as bad style on
this maining list; thank you.

If the message

error {0-01}

is displayed as soon as the PC tries to boot from the FreeBSD
CD, this may indicate two reasons: The first reason is a problem
of the PC itself (e. g. BIOS, defective drive) which I will keep
in background for now, as I assume that your PC and CD drive are
okay. Second reson is a defective CD, either by media, or by logic.
Have you made sure that the CD is bootable, e. g. checked with
a second PC or laptop (just booting)? Did you correctly record
the ISO file to the CD?

Again, make sure you did as explained in the handbook:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html

For example, can you mount the CD on a different system, and does
it show the obvious files and structures? Does a different system
boot from this CD?





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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Mubeesh ali
Hi ,

not sure.This sounds like my issue as well ? After install of bsd on a
laptop with ubuntu ;it does not boot and gets stuck in bios splash . I had
emailed on this earlier.

thanks,
Mubeesh

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 //* I've re-included the list, hope that's okay.

 On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:02:25 -0400, Derek Schwartz 
 derekschwart...@gmail.com wrote:
  as soon as a I put the cd in the computer for the first time.

 Please try to avoid top-posting, as it counts as bad style on
 this maining list; thank you.

 If the message

error {0-01}

 is displayed as soon as the PC tries to boot from the FreeBSD
 CD, this may indicate two reasons: The first reason is a problem
 of the PC itself (e. g. BIOS, defective drive) which I will keep
 in background for now, as I assume that your PC and CD drive are
 okay. Second reson is a defective CD, either by media, or by logic.
 Have you made sure that the CD is bootable, e. g. checked with
 a second PC or laptop (just booting)? Did you correctly record
 the ISO file to the CD?

 Again, make sure you did as explained in the handbook:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html

 For example, can you mount the CD on a different system, and does
 it show the obvious files and structures? Does a different system
 boot from this CD?





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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 23:58:44 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 hmmm... I've tried the full install... maybe I'll try the boot only
 CD...

Basically, that shouldn't make any difference. I usually use the
full install (1 CD) when building a system from scratch intendedly.
Everything that is not on this CD, I install per FTP right from
the beginning.

But the error message seems to indicate a generic booting problem.
You can also try to use the memstick installation variant if your
system can boot from USB. In this case, you can eliminate CD or
DVD booting problems.



 (hate to sound like an idiot) but how do I connect to the FTP
 site?

That's quite easy, as soon as you're in the sysinstall program:
Choose FTP as source, select a mirror near you, and if not done
yet, your network connection will automatically be initialized,
usually by DHCP, which is a common setting. The sysinstall program
does all that for you.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-diff-media.html
See 2.13.6 here

And of course:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/install-media.html
See box FTP Installation Modes



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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-19 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:35:42 +0530, Mubeesh ali mubeeshal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi ,
 
 not sure.This sounds like my issue as well ? After install of bsd on a
 laptop with ubuntu ;it does not boot and gets stuck in bios splash . I had
 emailed on this earlier.

Yes, the verbosity of the error message

error {0-01}

makes me believe that this is already in a very early stage. Maybe
some forgotten remains of a Linux boot loader? In this case, trying
to boot from USB (or maybe floppy?) could help hard-wiping at least
the beginning of the disk, using dd.



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Re: Installation problem

2010-08-18 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:01:08 -0400, Derek Schwartz derekschwart...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 Hey, I'm trying to install the latest release of FreeBSD on my Dell
 Desktop, the computer originally had windows XP, but then the hard
 drive was wiped clean.
 I tried reconfiguring the geometry of the hard drive by using my Linux
 Ubuntu Disk Utility, I changed it to {0-a5} which I heard was for
 FreeBSD, but still no luck.

The easiest way to install FreeBSD is to use *its* installation
utilities. Just make sure that the disk space you want to use
for your FreeBSD installation is free, meaning not defined to
be any kind of slice or partition of any type, just wiped plain
empty. Then FreeBSD will happily install into this empty disk
space.

In case you want to use the whole disk for FreeBSD, delete all
stuff from it (remove all primary DOS partitions) and keep
it that way; then start the installation from the CD, DVD or
USB stick.

There usually is no need to employ Linux tools to prepare a
FreeBSD installation.



 I still get the error, read error, {0-01}

What program or stage of installation reports that error?





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Re: Installation - no disks detected

2010-07-30 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Friday 30 July 2010 05:58:02 Prateek Sharma wrote:
 Hello,
   I am trying to install FreeBSD-8.1 on a server with the LSI SAS 9200 
 disk
 controller card. Before the partitioning step the installer says disks
 not found..
 
 However, just after freebsd boots , i get the diagnostic message saying
 something like: Drive C: is disk ad0
 Drive D: is disk ad1
 .. 
 So are my disks getting detected or not? Does anyone know if the card is
 supported by FreeBSD? Is there any way i can get this to work?
 
 Thanks !

There's work in progress to get the new 6gbps LSI HBAs and RAID controllers 
working in FreeBSD, but so far the driver is pretty experimental.  Currently 
there's nothing in the tree, but hopefully soon there will be something ready 
for testing.

As far as what you are seeing on boot, the system BIOS is seeing the 
controller and disks, but FreeBSD doesn't have a driver so once the OS is 
charge you get the no disks found message.

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Thanks,

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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-05-04 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 08:47:40AM +0200, Palle Girgensohn wrote:
 The fix is to use options - rescan devices in the installer. After that, 
 when selecting CDROM as media type, the installer lets you chose between 
 cd0 and acd0. Select the cd0 device instead of acd0 to use the virtual cd 
 drive.
 
 I recon the problem occurs because of confusion between the physical cd 
 drive and the virtual ditto.
 

Hi Palle,

This absolutely does the trick!

Thanks much,
-ewald
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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-04-28 Thread Palle Girgensohn
The fix is to use options - rescan devices in the installer. After that, 
when selecting CDROM as media type, the installer lets you chose between 
cd0 and acd0. Select the cd0 device instead of acd0 to use the virtual cd 
drive.


I recon the problem occurs because of confusion between the physical cd 
drive and the virtual ditto.


Cheers,
Palle

--On 22 april 2010 21.19.43 +0200 Ewald Jenisch a...@jenisch.at wrote:


Hi,

I'm having a hard time trying to install FreeBSD 8.0 on an HP Proliant
server. To be specific I try to instal the amd64 variant of FreeBSD
8.0 on a ProLiant DL385 G1.

Since the server is remote installation is to be done via the virtual
CD/DVD of the iLO management.

The install process runs smooth up to the point where the install
process finishes formatting then I get the following error:

Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist: Input/output error (5)

and installation can't proceed.

Interestingly that the installation runs from CD up to this point
without any problem whatsoever. This can't be a problem with the
CD/DVD since I've mounted the ISO-image via a virtual drive.

I've already tried downloading the ISO again - same result.

Likewise I tried with the CD-image instead of the DVD-image - same result
:-(

So here are my questions:

o) has anybody seen symptoms like this on a HP proliant server when
installation is done via the virtual CD/DVD-drive?

o) Any cure against this?

Thanks much in advance for any clue,
-ewald
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Re: Installation queries

2010-04-24 Thread Glen Barber
Hi,

Warren Liddell wrote: 
 I have a Hard Drive presently running Win 7 which ironically i wish to 
 remain souly a Win drive .. my question is, i have another drive im 
 looking to put in while i take the windows 1 out and install FreeBSD 
 onto it .. if later on i decide for some god unknown reason to put that 
 drive back in and take the FreeBSD one out .. will there be any issues ?

No, because they will be two separate disks.  If you have only one
attached at one time, each disk will contain its own MBR.

Regards,

-- 
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Re: Installation queries

2010-04-24 Thread Mike Jeays
On April 24, 2010 07:53:27 am Glen Barber wrote:
 Hi,

 Warren Liddell wrote:
  I have a Hard Drive presently running Win 7 which ironically i wish to
  remain souly a Win drive .. my question is, i have another drive im
  looking to put in while i take the windows 1 out and install FreeBSD
  onto it .. if later on i decide for some god unknown reason to put that
  drive back in and take the FreeBSD one out .. will there be any issues ?

 No, because they will be two separate disks.  If you have only one
 attached at one time, each disk will contain its own MBR.

 Regards,

I have always found disk caddies to be a much better solution than dual-boot. 
It guarantees no interference. I learned the hard way some years ago with an 
'accident' with dd on a dual-boot disk...
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Re: Installation queries

2010-04-24 Thread Jorge Biquez

At 09:32 a.m. 24/04/2010, you wrote:

On April 24, 2010 07:53:27 am Glen Barber wrote:
 Hi,

 Warren Liddell wrote:
  I have a Hard Drive presently running Win 7 which ironically i wish to
  remain souly a Win drive .. my question is, i have another drive im
  looking to put in while i take the windows 1 out and install FreeBSD
  onto it .. if later on i decide for some god unknown reason to put that
  drive back in and take the FreeBSD one out .. will there be any issues ?

 No, because they will be two separate disks.  If you have only one
 attached at one time, each disk will contain its own MBR.

 Regards,

I have always found disk caddies to be a much better solution than dual-boot.
It guarantees no interference. I learned the hard way some years ago with an
'accident' with dd on a dual-boot disk...



I would like to hear if possible your comments and advice on this 
taht's related ..


What if you have a to have several OS and distros to study or give 
consulting and developing services. I have this scenario now and I 
guess I have this optios.


- Extra disk(s) and install there the differnet os I need (FreeBSD 
and some Linux distros).
- As mentioned have different small disk with real installations and 
change according to needs.

- Change my slow machine and have a big one with
  a) have the windows needed (for some clients that have that, I am 
sorry) and under it run VMWARE or similar and have all the 
installations that I need.
  b) Have a big mac and do the same with virtualpc or similar (not 
sure of the name).


Thinking that you are looking to continue learning and you are 
offering consulting services where clients have different 
instllations. What would you choose of the above, if any? Or what would you do?


Thanks in advance.

Jorge Biquez


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Re: Installation queries

2010-04-24 Thread Glen Barber
Hi,

Jorge Biquez wrote: 
 I would like to hear if possible your comments and advice on this 
 taht's related ..
 
 What if you have a to have several OS and distros to study or give 
 consulting and developing services. I have this scenario now and I 
 guess I have this optios.
 
 - Extra disk(s) and install there the differnet os I need (FreeBSD 
 and some Linux distros).
 - As mentioned have different small disk with real installations and 
 change according to needs.

IMHO, this is a clumsy way to avoid writing over an existing installed
operating system.  But, you know what they say about opinions.

 - Change my slow machine and have a big one with
a) have the windows needed (for some clients that have that, I am 
 sorry) and under it run VMWARE or similar and have all the 
 installations that I need.
b) Have a big mac and do the same with virtualpc or similar (not 
 sure of the name).
 

VirtualBox?  

 Thinking that you are looking to continue learning and you are 
 offering consulting services where clients have different 
 instllations. What would you choose of the above, if any? Or what would you 
 do?
 

FWIW, I run VirtualBox on all of my FreeBSD machines and my
Mac for similar purposes.  It is much more convenient than carrying around
extra disks or obscure disk partitioning.

Regards,

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Re: Installation queries

2010-04-24 Thread Michael Powell
Glen Barber wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Jorge Biquez wrote:
 I would like to hear if possible your comments and advice on this
 taht's related ..
 
 What if you have a to have several OS and distros to study or give
 consulting and developing services. I have this scenario now and I
 guess I have this optios.
[snip]
 
 
 VirtualBox?

YES!
 
 Thinking that you are looking to continue learning and you are
 offering consulting services where clients have different
 instllations. What would you choose of the above, if any? Or what would
 you do?
 
 
 FWIW, I run VirtualBox on all of my FreeBSD machines and my
 Mac for similar purposes.  It is much more convenient than carrying around
 extra disks or obscure disk partitioning.
 

Me too. I have an AMD quad core and 8GB RAM. Virtualbox is one of the most 
painless ways to do this. Whichever OS you install in a VM it won't run as 
fast as it can if not a VM, but on the larger horsepower box it is very 
nearly  unnoticeable. It's close enough that I'm quite satisfied. In fact it 
is what I do if I need Office for anything, fire up a Windows VM.

I originally started doing this with a Pentium D 940 and 2GB RAM and it made 
the box a little sluggish. The move up to the higher horsepower box 
eliminated that. Virtualbox and higher horsepower gets my vote over 
continually monkeying around with altering slice/partitioning schemes. The 
more often you mess with that the higher the chance that you sooner or later 
make a little 'uh oh' and lose gobs of time wiping your drive and starting 
over.

-Mike
 


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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-04-23 Thread Doug Poland
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 06:36:39PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote:
 On 4/22/10, Ewald Jenisch a...@jenisch.at wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'm having a hard time trying to install FreeBSD 8.0 on an HP
  Proliant server. To be specific I try to instal the amd64 variant of
  FreeBSD 8.0 on a ProLiant DL385 G1.
 
  Since the server is remote installation is to be done via the
  virtual CD/DVD of the iLO management.
 
  The install process runs smooth up to the point where the install
  process finishes formatting then I get the following error:
 
  Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist: Input/output error (5)
 
  and installation can't proceed.
 
  Interestingly that the installation runs from CD up to this point
  without any problem whatsoever. This can't be a problem with the
  CD/DVD since I've mounted the ISO-image via a virtual drive.
 
  I've already tried downloading the ISO again - same result.
 
  Likewise I tried with the CD-image instead of the DVD-image - same result
  :-(
 
  So here are my questions:
 
  o) has anybody seen symptoms like this on a HP proliant server when
  installation is done via the virtual CD/DVD-drive?
 
  o) Any cure against this?
 
Try a re-scan of the devices from the options menu.  If that doesn't
help, try connecting to an ISO image in iLO instead of an optical
device.  

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Regards,
Doug
 
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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-04-23 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 06:27:11AM -0500, Doug Poland wrote:


 Try a re-scan of the devices from the options menu.  If that doesn't
 help, try connecting to an ISO image in iLO instead of an optical
 device.  

Hi Doug,

This is exactly what I did in the first playe, i.e. mounting an
ISO-Image as a iLO virtual CD/DVD then starting the installation off
this .ISO.

-ewald


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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-04-23 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 06:36:39PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote:
 
 ...
 Most remote management devices like Dell's DRAC and HP's iLO should
 present the drive to the OS as a USB rom.  The new IPMI management
 cards are still unknown.

Oops, now I understand.

Just curious: Why can the machine boot off the CD/DVD then during
installation goes south - shouldn't it be either I recognize this
drive or I don't recognize this drive?

 
 The acd0 is an ATAPI/IDE device.  Here's what I'd try.  Two options...
 
 1) Boot the livefs ISO and do a ftp/http install

Thanks much for the hint. I think I'm going this way since the
installation runs perfectly to right after formatting the partitions
on the HD is done.

Best regards,
-ewald
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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-04-23 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 04/23/2010 06:51 AM, Ewald Jenisch wrote:
 On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 06:36:39PM -0600, Tim Judd wrote:

 ...
 Most remote management devices like Dell's DRAC and HP's iLO should
 present the drive to the OS as a USB rom.  The new IPMI management
 cards are still unknown.
 
 Oops, now I understand.
 
 Just curious: Why can the machine boot off the CD/DVD then during
 installation goes south - shouldn't it be either I recognize this
 drive or I don't recognize this drive?

During boot, the loader uses the bios-supplied routines to load the
kernel, modules, and md root. One would hope the bios knows how to
communicate with its hardware.

By the time sysinstall is running (from the preloaded memory disk), the
kernel has mapped all the hardware it knows, and no longer utilizes the
bios routines for I/O. Thus, if FreeBSD knows not of the hardware
connecting the CD drive, it will not be able to present it as an option.

Fortunately, once you get this far, you need not actually use the CD to
install; network installation works quite well.

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Re: Installation on HP Proliant via iLO - Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist

2010-04-22 Thread Tim Judd
On 4/22/10, Ewald Jenisch a...@jenisch.at wrote:
 Hi,

 I'm having a hard time trying to install FreeBSD 8.0 on an HP Proliant
 server. To be specific I try to instal the amd64 variant of FreeBSD
 8.0 on a ProLiant DL385 G1.

 Since the server is remote installation is to be done via the virtual
 CD/DVD of the iLO management.

 The install process runs smooth up to the point where the install
 process finishes formatting then I get the following error:

 Error mounting /dev/acd0 on /dist: Input/output error (5)

 and installation can't proceed.

 Interestingly that the installation runs from CD up to this point
 without any problem whatsoever. This can't be a problem with the
 CD/DVD since I've mounted the ISO-image via a virtual drive.

 I've already tried downloading the ISO again - same result.

 Likewise I tried with the CD-image instead of the DVD-image - same result
 :-(

 So here are my questions:

 o) has anybody seen symptoms like this on a HP proliant server when
 installation is done via the virtual CD/DVD-drive?

 o) Any cure against this?

 Thanks much in advance for any clue,
 -ewald


I'm a new hire to HP (not supporting ProLiants), but BSD is not a
supported OS.  That's completely beside the point because I want to
play with proliants myself and see what I can get working.


Most remote management devices like Dell's DRAC and HP's iLO should
present the drive to the OS as a USB rom.  The new IPMI management
cards are still unknown.

The acd0 is an ATAPI/IDE device.  Here's what I'd try.  Two options...

1) Boot the livefs ISO and do a ftp/http install
2) Download Martin Matuška's mfsbsd and boot it.  Connect by SSH and
perform either a cd-rom install with the install iso mounted or via
ftp/http install.



I would anxiously try anything if anybody were to give me access to a
proliant.  dmesg and model numbers with bios, bmc versions, etc would
be greatly appreciated.
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Re: installation problem

2010-04-16 Thread Антон Клесс
I  guess I have the same problem.

I trying to install 7.2-RELEASE on server with Supermicro
X8DTU-Fhttp://market.yandex.ru/model.xml?modelid=4633058MB. BIOS is
the newest.

Just in time I boot from CD I get such errors after detecting CPU:

acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (1 retry left)
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retrying (0 retry left)
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out

And boot fails.

But if I eject CD from CD-ROM after FreeBSD  kernel loads, all going OK. But
in this way I unable to continue installation from CD, course even I insert
CD during sysinstall, it cannot mount it and copy distributions to my
machine.

I have tried to boot through choosing 6 in loader menu and type

   -

set hw.ata.atapi_dma=0

   -

boot



But it doesn't give any effect.


Situation was recalled on two X8DTU-F motherboards, so it isn't hardware
problem.

CD-ROM is SATA, TEAC DV-28S. Photo:
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Re: installation problem

2010-04-13 Thread Richard DeLaurell
I cannot tell for sure, but the installation seems to be failing at the
point where it must install/read from the cdrom; is that correct?

If so, it may be that your cdrom drive has a DMA conflict; I believe that
Toshiba ATAPI drives have such problems.

Provided you have a broadband connection, you may want to try and do the
ftp/network installation using the boot only ISO.

Good luck--

Richard

2010/4/13 Александров Иван jetana...@yandex.ru

 Hellow,my name is Ivan,i have installation problem
 configuration:
 intel seleron Dual-core e3300 2.5/800/1mb BOX LGA775 BX80571E3300
 ASUS P5KPL-AM SE Soket 775/iG31/DDR II/PCI-Ex16/Video/mAXT
 DDR II 1024Mb PC-6400,800MHz Crucial (Micron)
 160Gb Hitachi HDS721016LA386(0A39261)8MB SATA-II
 Codegen Q3337-A2 ATX 400W
 CD-ROM TOSHIBA (don't know 3 years old , HHD)

 problem:
 In various places errors occur when installing
 8.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz
 and
 FreeBSD-7.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
 everywhere timeout
 in 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz for example:
 ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0
 acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (1 retry left )
 acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (0 retries left )
 acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out
 cd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (1 retry left )
 acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (0 retries left )
 acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out
 cd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (1 retry left )
 acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (0 retries left )
 acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out

 I would like to begin the study with nix feeBSD very disappointing
 Help please,bootable flash don't work too.
 can you help me?
 thanks
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Re: installation problem

2010-04-13 Thread Fbsd1

Александров Иван wrote:
Hellow,my name is Ivan,i have installation problem 
configuration:

intel seleron Dual-core e3300 2.5/800/1mb BOX LGA775 BX80571E3300
ASUS P5KPL-AM SE Soket 775/iG31/DDR II/PCI-Ex16/Video/mAXT
DDR II 1024Mb PC-6400,800MHz Crucial (Micron)
160Gb Hitachi HDS721016LA386(0A39261)8MB SATA-II
Codegen Q3337-A2 ATX 400W
CD-ROM TOSHIBA (don't know 3 years old , HHD)

problem:
In various places errors occur when installing
8.0-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz
and
FreeBSD-7.3-RELEASE-i386-disc1.iso
everywhere timeout
in 8.0-RELEASE-i386-dvd1.iso.gz for example:
ums0: 3 buttons and [XYZ] coordinates ID=0
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (1 retry left )
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (0 retries left )
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out
cd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (1 retry left )
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (0 retries left )
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out
cd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (1 retry left )
acd0: TIMEOUT - READ_BIG retryin (0 retries left )
acd0: FAILURE - READ_BIG timed out

I would like to begin the study with nix feeBSD very disappointing
Help please,bootable flash don't work too.
can you help me?
thanks


Make sure the cdrom drive in cabled on the second motherboard ata port 
as master with nothing on the slave nipple. Your sata drive should be on 
the first motherboard port as master and the slave nipple empty.


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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-14 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:50:03 +0200, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr wrote:
 It seems however that some dedicated servers are setup using a single
 slice and a single partition, i.e. having /usr /var and /tmp as
 subdirectories in / instead of separate filesystems.

Well, that's no problem per se, and it saves some partition
out of space trouble when using UFS partitioning. You don't
have this with ZFS. :-)

Anyway, FreeBSD should keep all its partitions within one
slice, or do I fail to see some hidden advantage of distributing
the system into several slices?



 If the OP cares to share his /etc/fstab, it will become obvious if this
 is the case.

That would answer this question.



 If there are already separate partitions inside the slice, I'd agree
 there is no compelling reason to move to a multiple slice system.

An idea would be, for example, to remove the /usr partition and
create two new partitions, one for /usr and one for /usr/local,
which would move out /usr/local contents from the partition
holding /usr - which I think is what the OP originally intended.
This could be done relatively easily (in regards of SSH for the
command connection).




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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-14 Thread Peter
 On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 09:50:03 +0200, Manolis Kiagias son...@otenet.gr
 wrote:
 It seems however that some dedicated servers are setup using a single
 slice and a single partition, i.e. having /usr /var and /tmp as
 subdirectories in / instead of separate filesystems.

 Well, that's no problem per se, and it saves some partition
 out of space trouble when using UFS partitioning. You don't
 have this with ZFS. :-)

 Anyway, FreeBSD should keep all its partitions within one
 slice, or do I fail to see some hidden advantage of distributing
 the system into several slices?


snip

UFS:
I usually setup a ~10G slice for the OS [ad0s1] and in that slice I have a
/tmp /var /usr...and then use the rest of the disk for another slice
containing all my data and home directories - This way if I ever need
extra space for base, I can create symlinks, but makes reloading the base
OS easier/being able to change partitions around without worrying about
data [ad0s2]. If I plug this disk into another system, s1 can be
repartitioned for whatever and s2 still has all my data instead of having
to have the old partitions left [/var, /tmp, /usr] and can't combine them
into one huge one because your /home is on the same slice.

]Peter[

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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-14 Thread Polytropon
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:38:40 -0700 (MST), Peter fb...@peterk.org wrote:
 UFS:
 I usually setup a ~10G slice for the OS [ad0s1] and in that slice I have a
 /tmp /var /usr...and then use the rest of the disk for another slice
 containing all my data and home directories - This way if I ever need
 extra space for base, I can create symlinks, but makes reloading the base
 OS easier/being able to change partitions around without worrying about
 data [ad0s2]. If I plug this disk into another system, s1 can be
 repartitioned for whatever and s2 still has all my data instead of having
 to have the old partitions left [/var, /tmp, /usr] and can't combine them
 into one huge one because your /home is on the same slice.

Hmmm... that's a valid point and a good idea in certain cases,
such as you mentioned (having OS and applications completely
separated from data - slice-wise).



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Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Roger
Hello all,

I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD.
I found the following guide:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/
which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that
I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder
if maybe there is an easier way.

The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big
slice that covers the
entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have
/usr/local
in a separate slice.

Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed.
(trying to be prepared before attempting anything)

Thank you,
-r
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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Julien Gormotte


Roger rno...@gmail.com a écrit :


Hello all,

I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD.
I found the following guide:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/
which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that
I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder
if maybe there is an easier way.

The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big
slice that covers the
entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have
/usr/local
in a separate slice.

Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed.
(trying to be prepared before attempting anything)

Thank you,
-r
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AFAIK, it's not possible to install a BSD system from a linux system.  
I searched some time, and it does not seem to be possible.
Finally, I used mfsBSD to install. I booted on a rescue disk (Linux),  
then, I did :

dd if=mfsBSD.img | ssh remotehost dd of=/dev/sda

Then, a reboot, and I accessed the system via ssh.

Julien Gormotte


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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Adam Vande More

 Hello all,

 I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install
 FreeBSD.
 I found the following guide:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/
 which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that
 I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I
 wonder
 if maybe there is an easier way.

 The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big
 slice that covers the
 entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have
 /usr/local
 in a separate slice.

 Any input, advice, tips etc would be very welcomed.
 (trying to be prepared before attempting anything)


 AFAIK, it's not possible to install a BSD system from a linux system. I
 searched some time, and it does not seem to be possible.
 Finally, I used mfsBSD to install. I booted on a rescue disk (Linux), then,
 I did :
 dd if=mfsBSD.img | ssh remotehost dd of=/dev/sda

 Then, a reboot, and I accessed the system via ssh.


Actually is qasi possible
http://www.daemonology.net/blog/2008-01-29-depenguinator-2.0.html

But the OP question isn't resolved by that.


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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:28:04PM -0500, Roger wrote:

 Hello all,
 
 I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD.
 I found the following guide:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/
 which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that
 I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder
 if maybe there is an easier way.

Well, you say a dedicated server, but you do not say it is remote.
The article is for a remote install - that is, one where you cannot
put your hands on the actual machine.

The article also assumes you are making a raid with gmirror.  With
just one drive, you can ignore that stuff.

If it is really a remote machine, then you will have to go through
that stuff about building an mfs and running from it.   But, not
if you have direct access to the machine.

If you can get to it and shut it down and put CDs in it, the process
is much more simple.   In that case you just do good backups and
check them out to make sure they are readable, put the install CD in
and boot the machine.   That will bring up Sysinstall which will do
everything for the main install.   Then you will probably want to
csup(1) both the base system and the ports tree and rebuild the
base according to the handbook.   Then install your ports.
Finally restore your backups.

Or, if you are completely happy with what is currently on the machine
and you just want to reorder the partition sizes, then you don't
even have to really do any install.  Just do the backups, use 
the 'fixit' disk to run bsdlabel to make the partitions.  Newfs(8)
the new partitions. Then restore the backups over the top of things.

 The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big
 slice that covers the
 entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have
 /usr/local
 in a separate slice.

Really in a separate slice??   Or do you mean a separate partition.
It is possible that you used only a slice and no partitions, but it
is not the usual thing.   That is kind of halfway to what they call
a 'dangerously dedicated' disk in the handbook.  Maybe you could 
call it a dangerously dedicates slice.  It isn't really dangerous,
but it limits some things you can do and for the disk, makes it so
some types of things (that you most likely would never run in to)
could not access it.


So, 
Remember, in FreeBSD slices are the primary divisions (identified as 1..4)
of the disk and partitions (identified as a..h) are subdivisions of slices.
Presuming you are using SATA or IDE disk, the drive is ad0, or if you 
are using SCSI or SAS disk, the drive is da0.
The first single slice is either ad0s1 (or da0s1 for SCSI) thus the 's'
in 's1'.
Then in s1 you can have partitions a..h except c is reserved, b is
best used for swap and a needs to be root.

If you have a single slice and no partition, then you would be
mounting all of  /dev/ad0s1 as /.   If you have partitions, then 
you would be mounting  /dev/ad0s1a as /.   In any case, it is easy
to modify.

The only reason you might want a separate second slice on a machine
that is only running one version of FreeBSD  is if you have used up
all the partitions available in slice 1.

Do a df -k to see what slices and partitions are in use.
If you have partitions use bsdlabel to look at the label
in more detail.
 From root, do:bsdlabel ad0s1  (or da0s1 for SCSI or SAS)

Think about how you want the disk divided before you get into
the middle of it.

If the new /usr/local partition would be too big to fit in the
new /usr partition along with the regular /usr stuff, then you
will have to split them up before doing the backups.  In that
case, use tar(1) to make a file that contains all of /usr/local,
then rm(1) the contents of /usr/local, then do the backups and
go from there - use the bsdlabel from the fixit to rebuild the
partitions (and newfs each of them), restore everything over the
top, mount that new /usr/local (make sure you still have a /usr/local
mount point and that you fix up /etc/fstab for it) and untar that
ball you make of /usr/local.

If there is plenty of room for it to be in the new /usr temporarily,
then just do the backups and then use bsdlabel from the fixit to rebuild 
the partitions, newfs them and restore them from backups.   Then
rename the current /usr/local to get it out of the way, remake the
/usr/local mountpoint, mount it and then use tar to copy everything
from the old /usr/local to the new one.   Check it out and then rm
the old /usr/local.

Again, presuming you have direct access to the machine, 
Make your backups and put them somewhere away from what you are
doing - on tape, or a big USB drive or another machine's disk, etc.
I vote for a big cheap USB drive if your machine supports it.

Once you have readable backup -- and that /usr/local  split out
in a separate tar file, if it would be too big, then put in the
CD with the fixit.  There is a menu item 

Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:12:06PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:

 On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:28:04PM -0500, Roger wrote:
 
  Hello all,
  
  I'm in control of a dedicated server and I would like to re-install FreeBSD.
  I found the following guide:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/articles/remote-install/
  which seems to cover pretty much all should need but it assumes that
  I have some other OS (linux) installed, since I have FreeBSD 7.2-p4 I wonder
  if maybe there is an easier way.
 
 Well, you say a dedicated server, but you do not say it is remote.
 The article is for a remote install - that is, one where you cannot
 put your hands on the actual machine.

I just noticed your subject line.
You should really put all relevant information in the body of
your post and not depend on the subject line doing any more
than filtering.

Anyway, if it is really remote, then take that article seriously
but for only one disk, forget the gmirror raid stuff.

jerry


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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Polytropon
A little sidenote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:04 -0500, Roger rno...@gmail.com wrote:
 The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big
 slice that covers the
 entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have
 /usr/local
 in a separate slice.

In most cases, you set up one slice covering the whole disk,
and then partition it, giving functional parts an own
partition, such as /, /var, /tmp, /usr (including or intendedly
excluding /usr/local) and /home. Those are partitions, not
slices.

As far as I know, there's no advantage in adding additional slices
to that concept.

A slice is a DOS primary partition, while a partition is
just a subdivision (i. e. an own file system) inside a slice.



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Re: Remote re-installation of current FreeBSD system.

2009-11-13 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Polytropon wrote:
 A little sidenote:

 On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:28:04 -0500, Roger rno...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 The reason for wanting to re-install is because I only have on big
 slice that covers the
 entire harddrive and I don't want that. Primarily I would like to have
 /usr/local
 in a separate slice.
 

 In most cases, you set up one slice covering the whole disk,
 and then partition it, giving functional parts an own
 partition, such as /, /var, /tmp, /usr (including or intendedly
 excluding /usr/local) and /home. Those are partitions, not
 slices.

 As far as I know, there's no advantage in adding additional slices
 to that concept.

 A slice is a DOS primary partition, while a partition is
 just a subdivision (i. e. an own file system) inside a slice.


   

It seems however that some dedicated servers are setup using a single
slice and a single partition, i.e. having /usr /var and /tmp as
subdirectories in / instead of separate filesystems. I was once
administering a server setup in this way - the hosting company would
only perform this kind of install (they probably had a ready image or
dump and would not change it).
If the OP cares to share his /etc/fstab, it will become obvious if this
is the case.
If there are already separate partitions inside the slice, I'd agree
there is no compelling reason to move to a multiple slice system.
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Re: installation

2009-10-24 Thread Kelly Martin
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:10 PM, levent basar eagleu...@hotmail.com wrote:
 hi
 freebsd is one of the good ones but its hard to install why dont you make the 
 installation user friendly like pc bsd and
 also there are so many ati graphic card users can you add some new ati drives 
 to new freebsd ?

It's really not that hard to install. Of all the BSDs (including
NetBSD and OpenBSD), I find it the easiest. I try various Linux
installs every so often and always seem to have weird problems. I like
FreeBSD because it's simple once you get the hang of it, and it's very
well documented.

The FreeBSD Handbook has detailed documentation on how to install the
system, and it's head and shoulders above anything else out there for
other systems. Once you've done an install it will get easier the
second time and you can do it in a few minutes. Hang in there, it's
worth the effort.
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Re: installation

2009-10-23 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:10:49 +0100, levent basar eagleu...@hotmail.com 
wrote:
 hi 
 freebsd is one of the good ones but its hard to install 

It's not hard to install. Just follow the instructions on screen.
Because FreeBSD isn't restricted to a particular field of use
(such as most other operating systems are, by their own definition),
installation can lead into many various directions. There is
no default for this. FreeBSD can be used as a simple name server,
a mail server, a multimedia workstation, an embedded system,
a corporate storage controller or a mobile diagnostics system
on a netbook - and many others. How should an installer handle
this?



 why dont you make the installation user friendly like pc bsd

Then use PC-BSD. In my opinion, user-friendly and mades lots
of use of GUI effects is often confused. For starters, maybe
PC-BSD is the best solution. Personally, I had no problems
installing FreeBSD without additional education prior to
putting in the install CD. It shouldn't be any problem for a
person who is able to read the english language (which, by the
way, isn't my native one). :-)

An installation tool that requires a recent graphics card isn't
user friendly. It *limits* the use of the OS, e. g. when you
want to install it on a server that doesn't have a graphics
card at all.



 and 
 also there are so many ati graphic card users can you add
 some new ati drives to new freebsd ?

You should ask ATI for this, not FreeBSD. The developers
don't have X-ray eyes and therefore cannot look into the
devices ATI sells. :-)

Seriously: If you are interested for improved hardware
support, write to the hardware manufacturers. They are the
responsible party.



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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 01:29:26AM +, b. f. typed:
 Lane Holcombe wrote:
 
 Here's what you do:  Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
 
 portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
 
 You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
 have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
 whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
 ready when you need it.
 
 It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and
 ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a
 stable snapshot.  But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who
 is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository.
 Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook
 ought to be enough for most people.

Besides, an uptodate portstree is no guarantee at all that all ports will
compile and/or all dependencies will work. That's why there are periods of
ports freeze before every RELEASE.

On a desktop system, I tend to use binary packages only, coming with the
release. 

Ruben

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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Powell
PJ wrote:

 Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
 to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
 I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
 cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
 to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
 by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
 usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
 ordered universe!
 But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
 minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
 a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
 a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
 I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
 and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
 those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
 So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
 installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
 mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
 compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
 ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
 undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
 with Error code 1.
 
 Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
 installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
 different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
 I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
 directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is
 absurd. Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of
 starting all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for
 some rationality to this world.
 Thanks for any ideas...
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Not entirely sure this is totally relevant, but I wouldn't install any 
packages or third party apps when first installing a fresh system. The 
packages built at the time the release CD was created are already out of 
date and the ports tree has moved forward.

It's OK to go ahead and install the ports tree as part of the fresh install, 
however do not use it! The first thing I do after a fresh install is to csup 
the ports tree to '*default release=cvs tag=.'. (I know it's silly but don't 
confuse the tag=. with the end of sentence.) You have the best chance now 
for dependency tracking to be dead on, but the chance always remains that at 
any one given point in time there may be errors. The ports tree is fluid and 
changes constantly. Usually if there is a problem and the port(s) 
maintainers are made aware they get it fixed fairly quick and a quick csup 
after they repair will make it all good again.

Also realize that the previously mentioned tag if applied to src-all will 
pull down the sources for -CURRENT/HEAD. I have two separate sup files for 
each collection, one for source and one for ports. You can put them both in 
the same supfile if you want and there have been recent examples posted, you 
just have to make sure to get it right or you'll have a real mess. In other 
words, be aware of the different tags between tracking src-all and ports-
all. Should you use the wrong tag to track ports-all you may experience 
inconsistent problems.

On another note, should you find yourself in a position where you have two 
perfectly identical machines sitting next to each other, e.g., you know 
positively for a fact that everything is the same such as ports tree freshly 
csup'ed, etc, and one machine is barfing during compiling you may have a 
marginally bad hardware memory problem. Compiling (especially make 
world/kernel) really hits the memory hard. I once had a machine whose memory 
would 'sing' with an audible tone only during compilation. Such a noise in 
chip circuitry is an oscillation which should not happen and if you continue 
to operate the chip under that set of conditions it will fry. 

About the only thing you could try in this scenario would be to add latency 
clocks to the RAM in the mainboard BIOS. Whether this actually helps would 
really only be test of the hypothesis and not a true fix. Most memory should 
just auto time itself by SPD and shouldn't need to be 'slowed down'. If I 
saw this I'd replace the memory with new, as if it can't operate correctly 
at the SPD timings it is of substandard quality. 

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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread PJ
Neal Hogan wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote:
   
 Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
 to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
 I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
 cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
 to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
 by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
 usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
 ordered universe!
 But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
 minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
 a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
 a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
 I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
 and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
 those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
 So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
 installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
 mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
 compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
 ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
 undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
 with Error code 1.

 Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
 installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
 different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
 I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
 directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
 Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
 all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
 rationality to this world.
 Thanks for any ideas...
 

 Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with
 something that is giving you soo much trouble?
 There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate
 that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week
 . . . but . . .

 From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential
 files. Rationality may dictate you moving on.

 The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is
 to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the
 pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What
 happened to the faulty hardware idea?

 I dunno . . . good luck!
   

First, the problem is not FreeBSD... it is the idiots who think they know how 
to deal with a lot of stuff and then post all sorts of stuff that just confuses 
the hell out of simpletons like me. I made the mistake of thinking some jerk 
had written a little script that would do an update of ports with csup... well, 
I did post looking for an explanation of why the damned thing didn't work... 
and the responses I got were rather cryptic and din't explain anything even 
though a good programmer would have understood it would not work...  :-) 
I'm certainly not a programmer in the professional sense at all...
so in thinking about the problem I saw that the ports were not being correctly 
updated... once I got that right, everything worked fine. I even fixed that 
little script and updates are a cinch.

As for faulty hardware... haven't found any up to now... I hae just 1 drive 
left to check and I'll know for sure...  ;-) 





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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread PJ
Lane Holcombe wrote:
 I'm all over this!

 Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:

 portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror

 You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
 have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
 whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
 ready when you need it.

 Next, when ever you do a fresh install of FreeBSD whatever, the first
 thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by
 creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile)
 like this:

 begin cvsupfile
 *default host=IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR
 *default base=/usr
 *default prefix=/usr
 *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7
 *default compress
 src-all
 src-contrib
 ports-all tag=.
 /end cvsupfile

 Note that the begin and /end tags are put in the email for clarity,
 but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is
 overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy.

 Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust
 to the FreeBSD whatever that you just installed.

 So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install:

 csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile

 Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like
 6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you
 are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install
 cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where
 you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's
 nearly there!)

 Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports
 tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you.

 And you still might get those :)

 So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new
 install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ...

Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made
the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was
good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a
badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine.
I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and
I'm suckere in to try it.
Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I
sure would like to hear if that makes sense.
I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be
changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done
from same script.  Let me know, please, if it's ok?
==
#!/bin/sh
#
# Update source, docs and ports

LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd)

cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
csup ports-supfile
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex

/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
/usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF

cd $LOCAL_DIR
===


 Good Luck!

 lane

 On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote:
 Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
 to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
 I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
 cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
 to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
 by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
 usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
 ordered universe!
 But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
 minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
 a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
 a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
 I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
 and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
 those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
 So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
 installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
 mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
 compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
 ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
 undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
 with Error code 1.

 Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
 installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
 different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
 I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
 directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is
 absurd.
 Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
 all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
 rationality to this world.
 Thanks for any ideas...
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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread Adam Vande More
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 12:01 PM, PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca wrote:

 Lane Holcombe wrote:
  I'm all over this!
 
  Here's what you do: Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:
 
  portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror
 
  You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
  have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
  whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
  ready when you need it.
 
  Next, when ever you do a fresh install of FreeBSD whatever, the first
  thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by
  creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile)
  like this:
 
  begin cvsupfile
  *default host=IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR
  *default base=/usr
  *default prefix=/usr
  *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7
  *default compress
  src-all
  src-contrib
  ports-all tag=.
  /end cvsupfile
 
  Note that the begin and /end tags are put in the email for clarity,
  but should NOT appear in your cvsup file. I think src-contrib is
  overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy.
 
  Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now. You should adjust
  to the FreeBSD whatever that you just installed.
 
  So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install:
 
  csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile
 
  Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like
  6.3 or something ... can't remember which. Did I mention lazy? If you
  are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install
  cvsup from ports. (Which may likely put you back at square one where
  you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's
  nearly there!)
 
  Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports
  tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you.
 
  And you still might get those :)
 
  So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new
  install. And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ...

 Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made
 the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was
 good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a
 badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine.
 I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and
 I'm suckere in to try it.
 Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I
 sure would like to hear if that makes sense.
 I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be
 changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done
 from same script.  Let me know, please, if it's ok?
 ==
 #!/bin/sh
 #
 # Update source, docs and ports

 LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd)

 cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
 csup ports-supfile
 cd /usr/ports
 make fetchindex

 /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
 /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF

 cd $LOCAL_DIR
 ===

 
  Good Luck!
 
  lane
 
  On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote:
  Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
  to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
  I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
  cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
  to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
  by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
  usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
  ordered universe!
  But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
  minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
  a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
  a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
  I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
  and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
  those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
  So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
  installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
  mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
  compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
  ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
  undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
  with Error code 1.
 
  Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
  installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
  different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
  I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
  directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is
  absurd.
  Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
  all over again... done that, 

Re: Installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread b. f.
from same script.  Let me know, please, if it's ok?

Well, not quite.


==
#!/bin/sh
#
# Update source, docs and ports

LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd)

You don't need to change directories if you change some of the
commands slightly, so the above line and the last line are
unnecessary.


cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
csup ports-supfile

The example scripts shouldn't be run as-is: you need to edit them
first, or issue more flags on the command-line.  For instance, for the
ports-supfile you need at least to either change the

*default host ...

line to use the server of your choice, or issue a -h flag with the
right server in your script. (The choice of the right server can make
a substantial difference in how long this process takes -- you can
experiment with different servers, and/or use the
sysutils/fastest_cvsup port to find one that works well for you.  Not
every server is updated at the same interval.)  Also, you can avoid
changing directories by just using a full path to the cvsup script
file.  So, for example, you should replace the above two lines in the
script with something like:

csup -L 2 -h cvsup1.ca.FreeBSD.org /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile

I prefer to increase the verbosity with the -L switch, so that I have
a better idea of what's happening if something goes wrong.  All of
this is covered in the FreeBSD Handbook.  Also, you need not use
csup(1) at all if you prefer to use portsnap(8) instead.


cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex

/usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u

You don't need all of the three previous lines: you can just run
'portsdb -F' or 'portsdb -Fu' instead.  Also, these lines and the line
below require one of the portupgrade ports to be installed, but I
guess you know that.  If you're not planning on using portupgrade,
then don't use the portsdb or pkgdb commands, but just run: 'make -C
/usr/ports fetchindex' instead.

/usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF

cd $LOCAL_DIR


As I mentioned, you don't need this last line.

b.
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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-21 Thread Michael Powell
PJ wrote:

[snip]
 
 Ok, I normally do something like that... problem here was that I made
 the mistake of thinking that an interesting little script I found was
 good for updating... but, I was sadly mistaken. The error was due to a
 badly downloaded ports tree. That fixed, all works fine.
 I really only have problems when some extraneous garbage comes along and
 I'm suckere in to try it.
 Here's the script (I modified it and it seems to work just fine) but I
 sure would like to hear if that makes sense.
 I called it update.ports and it runs from any directory. It can be
 changed to update source and docs if so desired or all could be done
 from same script.  Let me know, please, if it's ok?
 ==
 #!/bin/sh
 #
 # Update source, docs and ports
 
 LOCAL_DIR=$(pwd)
 
 cd /usr/share/examples/cvsup
 csup ports-supfile
 cd /usr/ports
 make fetchindex
 
 /usr/local/sbin/portsdb -u
 /usr//local/sbin/pkgdb -uvF
 
 cd $LOCAL_DIR
 ===
 

I essentially do something very similar. About once a week I do this:

csup -L 2 ports  portsdb -uF  pkgdb -u  portversion

This pretty much does the same thing as the script.

I keep intending to make it a cron job and email me the output, but until I 
get 'round to it I just take a quick gander at the output and if needed 
issue a portupgrade -a. 9.8 times out of 10 this is all I ever need. Every 
once in a while I have to manually fix something, but that isn't all that 
often, maybe once or twice a year. Another thing is to read UPDATING 
religiously as this can help sidestep boo boos before they happen.

[snip]

-Mike


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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-20 Thread Neal Hogan
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:12 PM, PJaf.gour...@videotron.ca wrote:
 Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
 to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
 I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
 cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
 to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
 by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
 usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
 ordered universe!
 But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
 minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
 a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
 a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
 I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
 and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
 those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
 So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
 installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
 mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
 compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
 ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
 undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
 with Error code 1.

 Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
 installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
 different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
 I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
 directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
 Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
 all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
 rationality to this world.
 Thanks for any ideas...

Again, not to be rude (to you or fBSD) . . . but why stick with
something that is giving you soo much trouble?
There are a bunch of open source distros out there. I can appreciate
that you do not want to f'around with another distro for another week
. . . but . . .

From other posts, it sounded like you have recovered the essential
files. Rationality may dictate you moving on.

The only thing I can suggest that may help those who know better, is
to post the demsg's of the two machines (the one that works and the
pain in the ass), given that they are different machines. What
happened to the faulty hardware idea?

I dunno . . . good luck!

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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-20 Thread Lane Holcombe
I'm all over this!

Here's what you do:  Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:

portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror

You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
ready when you need it.

Next, when ever you do a fresh install of FreeBSD whatever, the first
thing you do after the install is update your source and ports try by
creating a cvsupfile, (I always keep one in /usr/local/etc/cvsupfile)
like this:

begin cvsupfile
*default host=IP.OF.YOUR.LOCAL.CVS.MIRROR
*default base=/usr
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_7
*default compress
src-all
src-contrib 
ports-all tag=.
/end cvsupfile

Note that the begin and /end tags are put in the email for clarity,
but should NOT appear in your cvsup file.  I think src-contrib is
overkill, but I've not bothered to find out because I'm pretty lazy.

Note, also that RELENG_7 is just what I'm using now.  You should adjust
to the FreeBSD whatever that you just installed.

So after you put the cvsupfile in place, run this on your new install:

csup -g -L2 /path/to/cvsupfile

Note, again, that csup does *not* get installed with *base before like
6.3 or something ... can't remember which.   Did I mention lazy?  If you
are going back that far you have to install csup from ports or install
cvsup from ports.  (Which may likely put you back at square one where
you have to work through the build failures - it ain't perfect, but it's
nearly there!)

Anyway, the point is you should always, always, always update your ports
tree after a new install so you don't have build failures to stump you.

And  you still might get those :)

So you should consider REBUILDING WORLD immediately after you do a new
install.  And THEN build/install whatever ports you need ...

Good Luck!

lane

On Thu, 2009-08-20 at 19:12 -0400, PJ wrote:
 Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
 to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?
 I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
 cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
 to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
 by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
 usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
 ordered universe!
 But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
 minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
 a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
 a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
 I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
 and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
 those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
 So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
 installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
 mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
 compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
 ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
 undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
 with Error code 1.
 
 Exactly the same installation with the same configuration on the smaller
 installation went without a hitch... (and on the same computer,
 different disk) The versions are the latest available and on 7.2...
 I have tried uninstalling php5, openldap, and removing the work
 directory for apache22, but the result is always the same... this is absurd.
 Can anybody make any sense of this... I don't like the idea of starting
 all over again... done that, been there, and still looking for some
 rationality to this world.
 Thanks for any ideas...
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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-20 Thread b. f.
Lane Holcombe wrote:

Here's what you do:  Setup for yourself a local cvs repository like so:

portinstall -Pp net/cvsup-mirror

You have to make decisions about what to mirror, but in the end you will
have a semi-authoritative mirror of all the source and ports for the
whole dang FreeBSD development tree, that will maintain itself and be
ready when you need it.

It's good advice to make sure that you are using a base system and
ports tree that are up-to-date, or at least contemporaneous and from a
stable snapshot.  But it seems to me to be overkill to ask someone who
is having trouble installing ports to mirror the FreeBSD repository.
Snapshots downloaded per the instructions in the FreeBSD Handbook
ought to be enough for most people.

b.
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Re: installation sequence

2009-08-20 Thread b. f.
Does anybody have an idea of what the oder of files and dependencies is
to install programs without all sorts of nonsensical errors?

This is supposed to be automated, but of course things can sometimes
go wrong, either through hardware problems, user-error, or an error in
Ports.

I usually have no problem installing FreeBsd whatever with apache22,
cups, samba, php, mysql xorg etc. etc. I say usually because from time
to time there do crop up some conflicts and they can usually be resolved
by just looking at the error messages when the install is interrupted...
usually one reinstalls the guilty port and voila! all things are in an
ordered universe!
But how do you avoid those error messages... I installed a pretty
minimal 7.2 about a week ago and since then have been putzing about with
a more serious installation of 7.2 on a larger disk to include xorg and
a number of pretty cumbersome applications.
I usually start with samba as that permits me to wander about on my lan
and download and play around with other stuff while I am waiting for
those substantial installs like jdk and xorg et al.
So now, I have installed samba... works fine... thereafter I have been
installing jdk16 and some other proggies like openldap and php5 and
mysql ... actually, I was doing those because apache22 wouldn't
compile... it grinds out a slew of errors that all seem to be related to
ldap...util_ldap.c:2135 (or other numbers) and all have the notation
undeclared (first use in this function) and finally the ghost gives up
with Error code 1.

It sounds like a missing header, but you need to tell us more before
we can attempt to figure out why.  Don't spend a lot of time and
energy paraphrasing what happened, but rather include the end of a
build transcript with your message, beginning a few lines above where
the first error appeared.  You can cut-and-paste, or use script1) to
capture the output, or whatever -- but we need to see the _exact_
output.  Also include a list of the ports that you have installed now,
and  the OPTIONS settings, if any, of the port and the ports that it
depends upon. Also check to see when you are installing a new port
that:

1) you are using a up-to-date ports tree and INDEX file (or at least a
snapshot that has no known errors), and an up-to-date portsdb and
pkgdb if you are using portupgrade;
2) all of your currently installed ports are up-to-date (or at least
consistent with your ports tree);
3) you are starting with clean work directories for the port that you
want to  build and install, and all ports that will also need to be
build and installed as missing dependencies;
4) your installed ports and base system have not been corrupted;
5) you have no known hardware problems, like bad memory or a
malfunctioning hard drive.

And you know, you don't have to build from source -- you could just
download and install prebuilt binary packages, either from FreeBSD
Ports or some other packaging system...


b.
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Re: Installation - VT4

2009-05-11 Thread Tim Judd
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 1:18 PM, Eitan Adler eitanadlerl...@gmail.comwrote:

 When you install freeBSD via sysinstall you could switch to VT2 which
 displays what files it is currently installing and you could switch to
 VT4 which displays some kind of prompt. What exactly is that prompt? sh?
  What utilities does it have access to?  When would you want to use it?

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ttyv4 is the holographic shell otherwise mentioned.  It only has access to
built-in commands (such as echo, cd, etc)

It's really limited and so far, haven't found a use for it yet.  I think it
was a new thing when sysinstall was out and was useful back then.  Since
then, we've kept it and just haven't done much to it.


If you find a use, share it.
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Re: installation on Acer 4220

2008-12-12 Thread Bill Moran
In response to abedini abedini.erics...@gmail.com:

 Hi all dear
 
 I have laptop acer 4220 and I need to install FreeBSD. 
 
 This laptop have sata HDD how can install FreeBSD in this system.

Are you having difficulty?  What have you tried.  Quite honestly, I
don't understand the question.

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Re: Installation on a Dell Poweredge R805

2008-12-04 Thread Chris Boyd


On Dec 4, 2008, at 1:29 AM, Tim Judd wrote:


1: PERC6 is not listed as supported, last time I checked.
2: Dells are notorious for not working very well with !Windows, ! 
Linux (haven't tried something like Open Solaris)


I have a new PE2950's at the office, FreeBSD sees everything,  
including the PERC6i controller, but the motherboard NICs are  
suffering horribly bad for performance.  Ping flood from the console  
to it's own IP address bound to the NIC looses 30% of it's packets.   
Also, what's NIC2 on the motherboard/case labeling, is the first  
NIC FreeBSD finds.  NIC1 is the 2nd nic FreeBSD finds.  Just oddities.



Thanks, Tim.  The R805 RAID is actually an LSI controller, supported  
by the mpt driver.  The 7.1 version has some updates that make it work  
on this box.  We're just down the road from Dell, so it's hard to  
avoid them :-)


Agreed on the bce NIC.  That NIC seems to be complete junk.  It gives  
me fits no matter what OS drives it.


In any case, for the archives, if you have an October 2008 or later  
production PE R805, you need to use FreeBSD 7.1 for an out of the box  
installation.


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Re: Installation on a Dell Poweredge R805

2008-12-03 Thread Tim Judd
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Chris Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm having an issue installing FreeBSD 7 AMD64 on a Dell Poweredge R805.

 The system starts to boot, throws several mpt_cam_event 0x12 and 0x16
 errors, presents the boot menu, and then crashes with a Fatal trap 12: page
 fault while in kernel mode and then wants to reboot.

 This is a dual CPU, quad core Opteron 2352 system with 8GB RAM and dual SAS
 on a PERC6 controller.  I've tried various memory and BIOS settings to see
 if I can get it to boot, but it either does the bits describe above, or
 hangs hard.

 Any and all suggestions appreciated.

 --Chris

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1: PERC6 is not listed as supported, last time I checked.
2: Dells are notorious for not working very well with !Windows, !Linux
(haven't tried something like Open Solaris)

I have a new PE2950's at the office, FreeBSD sees everything, including the
PERC6i controller, but the motherboard NICs are suffering horribly bad for
performance.  Ping flood from the console to it's own IP address bound to
the NIC looses 30% of it's packets.  Also, what's NIC2 on the
motherboard/case labeling, is the first NIC FreeBSD finds.  NIC1 is the 2nd
nic FreeBSD finds.  Just oddities.

Honestly, I would either stick with IBM or iXsystems branded machines.
Others may have success, but those two just seem the best I've seen.  Custom
builds are always an option too, and the warranties for custom builds are
often equal, or longer, than a brand-name machine, but you have to talk to
each device vendor, instead of Dell for example.

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Re: Installation

2008-11-20 Thread Steven Susbauer
Niyi Christ wrote:
 Hi,
  
 I've being using FreeBSD ever since 6.0 and I am a very good fan. But I got a 
 new laptop computer, a Sony VAIO VGN-BX760 that has a hidden recovery 
 partition. I've tried all my best to install FreeBSD 7.0 on it but when ever 
 I insert the installation CD and it boots from the cdrom, the kernel does not 
 come up. Instead, I got this bunch of digits just scrolling down my screen 
 indefinitely. The laptop came with a windows XP OS and I am trying to dual 
 boot. I want to use the recovery partition for my FreeBSD.
  
 I'll appreciate your help as soon as possible. Thanks in anticipation.
  
 Yours,
 Niyi
 
 
 NiyiChrist
 
 
   
Are you using the network install disc?

I've had a similar issue on a few machines. It was fixed by using Disc 1
instead.

   -Steve



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Re: Installation

2008-11-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 01:02:40PM -0800, Niyi Christ wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I've being using FreeBSD ever since 6.0 and I am a very good fan. But I got a 
 new laptop computer, a Sony VAIO VGN-BX760 that has a hidden recovery 
 partition. I've tried all my best to install FreeBSD 7.0 on it but when ever 
 I insert the installation CD and it boots from the cdrom, the kernel does not 
 come up. Instead, I got this bunch of digits just scrolling down my screen 
 indefinitely. The laptop came with a windows XP OS and I am trying to dual 
 boot. I want to use the recovery partition for my FreeBSD.
  
 I'll appreciate your help as soon as possible. Thanks in anticipation.

Hmmm.   I was able to clean out two of those once using the fixit
CD boot.   But, if you can't get it to boot at all, it will be
a problem. 

Did you try to just bot normally, but look at the BIOS on the
way up?   You may have to set something in the BIOS.   I don't
know the key combination to hit on a VIO to get in to BIOS, but
it should tell somewhere.

jerry

  
 Yours,
 Niyi
 
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Re: Installation

2008-11-20 Thread Nerius Landys

 I've being using FreeBSD ever since 6.0 and I am a very good fan. But I got
 a new laptop computer, a Sony VAIO VGN-BX760 that has a hidden recovery
 partition. I've tried all my best to install FreeBSD 7.0 on it but when ever
 I insert the installation CD and it boots from the cdrom, the kernel does
 not come up. Instead, I got this bunch of digits just scrolling down my
 screen indefinitely. The laptop came with a windows XP OS and I am trying to
 dual boot. I want to use the recovery partition for my FreeBSD.



I am acquainted with the scrolling digits problem.  I installed FreeBSD 7.0
onto a server machine which did not have a built-in CDROM drive.  Instead, I
hooked up a USB CDROM drive and tried to boot from it.  This is when I got
the scrolling digits problem.  After asking about this problem on the
forums, if I remember correctly, the answer seemed to be that booting from
USB CDROM drive is not supported.  My fix was to temporarily hook up an IDE
CDROM drive and boot from that.  I'm not sure what the situation with your
laptop is.

By the way, if you are installing a dual boot, wouldn't it make sense to
shrink the Windows partition first to make more room on the hard drive, then
add a new partition?  There are tools that can shrink a Windows partition
easily.
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Re: Installation

2008-11-20 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 02:35:19PM -0800, Nerius Landys wrote:

 
  I've being using FreeBSD ever since 6.0 and I am a very good fan. But I got
  a new laptop computer, a Sony VAIO VGN-BX760 that has a hidden recovery
  partition. I've tried all my best to install FreeBSD 7.0 on it but when ever
  I insert the installation CD and it boots from the cdrom, the kernel does
  not come up. Instead, I got this bunch of digits just scrolling down my
  screen indefinitely. The laptop came with a windows XP OS and I am trying to
  dual boot. I want to use the recovery partition for my FreeBSD.
 
 
 
 I am acquainted with the scrolling digits problem.  I installed FreeBSD 7.0
 onto a server machine which did not have a built-in CDROM drive.  Instead, I
 hooked up a USB CDROM drive and tried to boot from it.  This is when I got
 the scrolling digits problem.  After asking about this problem on the
 forums, if I remember correctly, the answer seemed to be that booting from
 USB CDROM drive is not supported.  My fix was to temporarily hook up an IDE
 CDROM drive and boot from that.  I'm not sure what the situation with your
 laptop is.
 
 By the way, if you are installing a dual boot, wouldn't it make sense to
 shrink the Windows partition first to make more room on the hard drive, then
 add a new partition?  There are tools that can shrink a Windows partition
 easily.

I wondered about that too.   But, I figured that if the OP couldn't
even get something to boot, he had to get past that first.

Partition Magic (version 7.0 only, - version 8.0 is junk) will do fine
except for USB devices/disk. But, I would suggest downloading and
burning the gparted CD image and using that to shring the MS slice.

jerry

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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:


I am trying to install FreeBSD.
During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
hangs indefinitely.
When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the USB
controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
problem is here.
Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?


Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't 
available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it 
after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the 
country select screen.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:57:22AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:

 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?

 Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't  
 available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it  
 after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the  
 country select screen.

I don't see how this would solve or even affect his problem.

As I understand it, USB Legacy Support is intended for operating
systems which do not have a USB stack available to them, thus making USB
keyboards/mice appear as PS/2 keyboards/mice within MS-DOS and so on.  I
believe the way it works is that the BIOS acts as a software translation
layer between the USB device and PS/2 interaction.  This translation is
lost the instant interrupts are re-mapped or the southbridge/USB
controller is initialised.

The OP is making it past boot2/loader, the kernel and all its drivers
are fully loaded (including the USB stack).

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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:57:22AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:

 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?

 Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't  
 available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it  
 after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the  
 country select screen.

 I don't see how this would solve or even affect his problem.

 As I understand it, USB Legacy Support is intended for operating
 systems which do not have a USB stack available to them, thus making USB
 keyboards/mice appear as PS/2 keyboards/mice within MS-DOS and so on.  I
 believe the way it works is that the BIOS acts as a software translation
 layer between the USB device and PS/2 interaction.  This translation is
 lost the instant interrupts are re-mapped or the southbridge/USB
 controller is initialised.

 The OP is making it past boot2/loader, the kernel and all its drivers
 are fully loaded (including the USB stack).

Well, that may be totally correct but practice... Ex., I have an ASUS
P5K motherboard and I can't use a USB mouse with USB Legacy Support.
The mouse is detected and works IFF this support is OFF.


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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 08:35:37PM +0400, Boris Samorodov wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:57:22AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
  On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:
 
  I am trying to install FreeBSD.
  During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
  hangs indefinitely.
  When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
  During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the 
  USB
  controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
  controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
  problem is here.
  Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?
 
  Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't  
  available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it  
  after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the  
  country select screen.
 
  I don't see how this would solve or even affect his problem.
 
  As I understand it, USB Legacy Support is intended for operating
  systems which do not have a USB stack available to them, thus making USB
  keyboards/mice appear as PS/2 keyboards/mice within MS-DOS and so on.  I
  believe the way it works is that the BIOS acts as a software translation
  layer between the USB device and PS/2 interaction.  This translation is
  lost the instant interrupts are re-mapped or the southbridge/USB
  controller is initialised.
 
  The OP is making it past boot2/loader, the kernel and all its drivers
  are fully loaded (including the USB stack).
 
 Well, that may be totally correct but practice... Ex., I have an ASUS
 P5K motherboard and I can't use a USB mouse with USB Legacy Support.
 The mouse is detected and works IFF this support is OFF.

Something tells me that if you were to enable USB Legacy Support and run
Linux or Windows, you'd have a functioning mouse.

This could simply be a BIOS bug (would not surprise me), or (more
likely) a bug in FreeBSD's initialisation of the USB chip.  FreeBSD's
USB stack is under a great amount of (justified) scrutiny as of late,
and there are efforts under CURRENT to replace the stack with a complete
brand-new written-from-the ground-up stack (patches are available).

It would be beneficial if someone with this sort of configuration oddity
could run CURRENT with the new USB stack patches applied and see if
things behave as expected.

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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread ton80



Warren Block wrote:
 
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:
 
 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the
 USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say
 the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?
 
 Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't 
 available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it 
 after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the 
 country select screen.
 
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I checked the biosno where does it address USB Legacy Supportonly
options are to turn on or off support for the USB controller.

My system is a Dell E310 (a few years old).  Motherboard is an Intelnot
sure of the model.

I am currently running Linux (CentOS) with no problems.  I have ran many
other Linux distros with no problems.

I am going to attempt to try to boot up and plug in keyboard after
initialization...without mouse.

see ya on the other side.

ton80
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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:57:22AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:


I am trying to install FreeBSD.
During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
hangs indefinitely.
When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the USB
controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
problem is here.
Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?


Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't
available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it
after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the
country select screen.


I don't see how this would solve or even affect his problem.

As I understand it, USB Legacy Support is intended for operating
systems which do not have a USB stack available to them, thus making USB
keyboards/mice appear as PS/2 keyboards/mice within MS-DOS and so on.  I
believe the way it works is that the BIOS acts as a software translation
layer between the USB device and PS/2 interaction.  This translation is
lost the instant interrupts are re-mapped or the southbridge/USB
controller is initialised.

The OP is making it past boot2/loader, the kernel and all its drivers
are fully loaded (including the USB stack).


An MSI motherboard did the same thing, only with a USB mouse.  The BIOS 
defaulted to legacy emulation.  The mouse would be briefly enabled 
during boot, then disabled as FreeBSD started.  I found a message 
explaining it, disabled BIOS emulation, had no further problems, and... 
didn't investigate further.  Now I can't find the exact post, but did 
find a thread that is similar:


http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1607862+0+archive/2008/freebsd-questions/20080224.freebsd-questions

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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Warren Block

On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Boris Samorodov wrote:


Well, that may be totally correct but practice... Ex., I have an ASUS
P5K motherboard and I can't use a USB mouse with USB Legacy Support.
The mouse is detected and works IFF this support is OFF.


Just to add to that--same situation, but the mouse would work if it was 
disconnected and reconnected.


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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread ton80



ton80 wrote:
 
 
 
 Warren Block wrote:
 
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:
 
 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the
 USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the
 USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say
 the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?
 
 Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't 
 available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it 
 after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the 
 country select screen.
 
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 I checked the biosno where does it address USB Legacy Supportonly
 options are to turn on or off support for the USB controller.
 
 My system is a Dell E310 (a few years old).  Motherboard is an
 Intelnot sure of the model.
 
 I am currently running Linux (CentOS) with no problems.  I have ran many
 other Linux distros with no problems.
 
 I am going to attempt to try to boot up and plug in keyboard after
 initialization...without mouse.
 
 see ya on the other side.
 
 ton80
 

OK, I tried several different methods and two other keyboards...no luck.
During bootup, it sees the USB ports...then it halts them.
What is SIOS?

ton80
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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:19:40AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 09:57:22AM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, ton80 wrote:

 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the 
 USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?

 Set USB Legacy Support to disabled in the BIOS.  If that isn't
 available, it might work to boot with the keyboard detached.  Connect it
 after the BIOS boot, at the FreeBSD bootloader prompt or maybe at the
 country select screen.

 I don't see how this would solve or even affect his problem.

 As I understand it, USB Legacy Support is intended for operating
 systems which do not have a USB stack available to them, thus making USB
 keyboards/mice appear as PS/2 keyboards/mice within MS-DOS and so on.  I
 believe the way it works is that the BIOS acts as a software translation
 layer between the USB device and PS/2 interaction.  This translation is
 lost the instant interrupts are re-mapped or the southbridge/USB
 controller is initialised.

 The OP is making it past boot2/loader, the kernel and all its drivers
 are fully loaded (including the USB stack).

 An MSI motherboard did the same thing, only with a USB mouse.  The BIOS  
 defaulted to legacy emulation.  The mouse would be briefly enabled  
 during boot, then disabled as FreeBSD started.  I found a message  
 explaining it, disabled BIOS emulation, had no further problems, and...  
 didn't investigate further.  Now I can't find the exact post, but did  
 find a thread that is similar:

 http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1607862+0+archive/2008/freebsd-questions/20080224.freebsd-questions

Ahh, right.  But now we're talking about keyboards, when before we were
talking strictly about mice.  Then I remembered that the PS/2 interface
actually handles both keyboards *and* mice during initialisation, which
means the translation/emulation layer does the same thing.

The problem in that thread is partially documented in the ukbd(4) man
page; see the paragraph starting with If you want to use a USB keyboard
as your default.

The hint commands shown should do the right thing.  However, *do not*
add them to device.hints -- add them to /boot/loader.conf.  device.hints
can be overwritten when changes occur in it (I forget if installkernel
or mergemaster does this), and you will lose your changes.

You can also type the hint commands into the loader section prior to
booting.  The OP might want to try doing this: at the FreeBSD
Beastie/loader menu, hit 6 to go to the Loader prompt.  At the prompt,
type in:

set hint.atkbd.0.disable=1
set hint.atkbdc.0.disable=1
boot

And then tell us if your keyboard works during sysinstall.

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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-13 Thread Boris Samorodov
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 On Mon, 13 Oct 2008, Boris Samorodov wrote:

 Well, that may be totally correct but practice... Ex., I have an ASUS
 P5K motherboard and I can't use a USB mouse with USB Legacy Support.
 The mouse is detected and works IFF this support is OFF.

 Just to add to that--same situation, but the mouse would work if it
 was disconnected and reconnected.

Yes, it is. But I used to my radio mouse and don't like to walk
to the computer each time it freezes. The computer is used for
FreeBSD-current testing and may freeze many times a day. Esp.
if I test radeon drivers. :-(


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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:54:26AM -0700, ton80 wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?

I'm inclined to believe the installation isn't hung, but rather that
FreeBSD isn't properly working with your USB keyboard (this is very
likely, given the state of USB on FreeBSD -- work is underway on CURRENT
to fix these problems), so you think the installation is hung, but
in reality it's just waiting for a keypress.

The only workaround I can think of would be to get a PS/2 keyboard and
use that.  Chances are even if you get the OS installed, you probably
won't be able to type at the console (with the USB keyboard).  :-)

And please remember that on many systems you should reboot the system
after plugging in or removing a PS/2 keyboard; hot-swapping only works
on some motherboards.

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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-12 Thread ton80



Jeremy Chadwick-3 wrote:
 
 On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:54:26AM -0700, ton80 wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the
 USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say
 the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?
 
 I'm inclined to believe the installation isn't hung, but rather that
 FreeBSD isn't properly working with your USB keyboard (this is very
 likely, given the state of USB on FreeBSD -- work is underway on CURRENT
 to fix these problems), so you think the installation is hung, but
 in reality it's just waiting for a keypress.
 
 The only workaround I can think of would be to get a PS/2 keyboard and
 use that.  Chances are even if you get the OS installed, you probably
 won't be able to type at the console (with the USB keyboard).  :-)
 
 And please remember that on many systems you should reboot the system
 after plugging in or removing a PS/2 keyboard; hot-swapping only works
 on some motherboards.
 
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Ah...if only it were that easy!
My system does not have PS2 connectors...only USB.
So if I cannot get the USB workingI cannot use FreeBSD.  Would OpenBSD
give me the same problems I wonder?

Thanks,
ton80
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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 11:08:50AM -0700, ton80 wrote:
 Jeremy Chadwick-3 wrote:
  On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 10:54:26AM -0700, ton80 wrote:
  Hello,
  I am trying to install FreeBSD.
  During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
  hangs indefinitely.
  When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
  During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the
  USB
  controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
  controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say
  the
  problem is here.
  Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?
  
  I'm inclined to believe the installation isn't hung, but rather that
  FreeBSD isn't properly working with your USB keyboard (this is very
  likely, given the state of USB on FreeBSD -- work is underway on CURRENT
  to fix these problems), so you think the installation is hung, but
  in reality it's just waiting for a keypress.
  
  The only workaround I can think of would be to get a PS/2 keyboard and
  use that.  Chances are even if you get the OS installed, you probably
  won't be able to type at the console (with the USB keyboard).  :-)
  
  And please remember that on many systems you should reboot the system
  after plugging in or removing a PS/2 keyboard; hot-swapping only works
  on some motherboards.
  
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 Ah...if only it were that easy!
 My system does not have PS2 connectors...only USB.
 So if I cannot get the USB workingI cannot use FreeBSD.

In this case, correct.

 Would OpenBSD give me the same problems I wonder?

I don't know what the state of OpenBSD's USB stack is, and the last
time I encountered NetBSD's USB stack was 7 years ago (not so pleasant
results).

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RE: Installation Hangs

2008-10-12 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


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 Subject: Installation Hangs



 Hello,
 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it
 finds the USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?


Yes, you can remove the hard disk, put it in a different machine,
install FreeBSD on it, then move the disk back.

You could always try installing with JUST the USB keyboard or
with a -different- USB keyboard.

I would suspect that if you stick in a Linux Ubuntu install CD
and it also fails to detect keyboard and mouse, that you will
get more traction with your machine hardware manufacturer when
reporting a problem.  Hopefully your system is a new one within
the 30 day return window and you can return it and get a different
one.

One last thing - it might be possible that your machine motherboard
has a port for a standard keyboard, with a header on the motherboard,
and it just isn't brought out the back of the machine.

Please also post the make and model of the motherboard in use so
we know what to avoid here.

Ted

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RE: Installation Hangs

2008-10-12 Thread mdh
 Yes, you can remove the hard disk, put it in a different
 machine,
 install FreeBSD on it, then move the disk back.

At that point, if you don't need a graphical console, then a serial console 
might be a good work-around option.  
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html for more 
info.  
- mdh



  
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Re: Installation Hangs

2008-10-12 Thread Wayne Sierke
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 10:54 -0700, ton80 wrote:
 Hello,
 I am trying to install FreeBSD.
 During the install (actually at the beginning of the process) the system
 hangs indefinitely.
 When it gets to the select country screen...it is frozen.
 During the boot process, as it is reading all the hardware, it finds the USB
 controller OK then later it states there was an IO error and that the USB
 controller is halted. I have a USB Keyboard and mouse...so I would say the
 problem is here.
 Is there any workaround I can use to get things going?
 
 Thanks,
 ton80

I currently have to attach my USB k/b and mouse via a USB hub, rather
than directly to the USB ports on this PC. I'm using a cheap no-name hub
here at the moment and it has done the job so far.

See if attaching via a hub improves things if you can.


Wayne


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Re: Installation Question

2008-09-27 Thread Rodrigo Gonzalez

Ray Madigan wrote:

I am trying to move a couple of machines from Suse Linux to FreeBSD and I am
having an installation issue on the first machine.  I have a 1.8GHZ Pentium
on an ASUS mainboard.  DUring installation I give the geometry of the drive
on the machine, a Western Digital WD8000JB, the drive geometry that I find
on their website 16383/16/63 in FDisk.  The disk was used for the Suse
installation so the partitions are correct.  So I press Q on the keyboard.
I go through the installation until I get to DiskLabel and the drive doesn't
show up on the top of the screen.  The screen is blank except for the
options section.

Does anyone know what could be going wrong here.

Thanks in advance

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The partitions are not correct, you have to delete them and create a 
freebsd slice, after that you will be able to make the partitions

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Re: Installation Question

2008-09-27 Thread Michael Powell
Ray Madigan wrote:

 I am trying to move a couple of machines from Suse Linux to FreeBSD and I
 am
 having an installation issue on the first machine.  I have a 1.8GHZ
 Pentium
 on an ASUS mainboard.  DUring installation I give the geometry of the
 drive on the machine, a Western Digital WD8000JB, the drive geometry that
 I find
 on their website 16383/16/63 in FDisk.  The disk was used for the Suse
 installation so the partitions are correct.  So I press Q on the keyboard.
 I go through the installation until I get to DiskLabel and the drive
 doesn't
 show up on the top of the screen.  The screen is blank except for the
 options section.
 
 Does anyone know what could be going wrong here.
[snip]

You need to completely wipe the disk of whatever was on it before. On
machines with a floppy sometimes I boot from Dos and use it's fdisk, but
really any fdisk will do this. Just delete and write back to the drive and
start over.

I have a WD800JB here and as far as specifying drive geometry that is
generally not required. Just make sure you have LBA mode activated in the
BIOS.

A quick note about sysinstall: many times it will display an error screen
complaining about CHS values being wrong immediately prior to going into
fdisk. This is really an error in sysinstall and most people just totally
ignore it. So don't pay that screen any attention, it is bogus.

-Mike



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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-24 Thread Viacheslav Chumushuk
Thanks for help, guys. I'll try this way at the evening (GT +2).
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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-24 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 08:36:11PM -0400, Steve Bertrand wrote:

 Jerry McAllister wrote:
 On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:55:51AM +0300, Viacheslav Chumushuk wrote:
 
 And at the start of installation process I have warning about wrong disk 
 geometry.
 
 Probably your best bet is to ignore the geometry stuff and
 just let it do its own thing.   Do not try to set the geometry.
 In reality, geometry is generally  'virtual' nowdays.
 
 I concur with Roland and Jerry about ignoring the geometry warning.
 
 I've been doing so for as long as I can remember and I've never had an 
 issue.

In fact, trying to set the geometry can mung up the installation.

Someone should make some explicit changes - at least in messages
and documentation in this regard.   It has been a decade since
this geometry thing has been obsolete.   I don't know enough to
make a completely accurate statement or I would submit something.

jerry

 
 Steve
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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-24 Thread Viacheslav Chumushuk
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 09:58:05 Viacheslav Chumushuk wrote:
 Thanks for help, guys. I'll try this way at the evening (GT +2).

I was trying, but witout success. Answer the same :(
I don't know what is the strange problem...
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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-23 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:55:51AM +0300, Viacheslav Chumushuk wrote:
 Hello.
 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 7.0, but I have next problem.
 When installation program write new partitions structure to disc it exits 
 with 
 next error: Unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad1s1a! Command 
 returned status 36.
 
 And at the start of installation process I have warning about wrong disk 
 geometry.
 
 My HDD is Segate ST340810A 40Gb, and I was trying write geometry (which I 
 found on its case and in BIOS), but without success.

Have you tried _not speficying a geometry? In my experience it is best
to let the install program figure it out. I have always ignored the
warning at the beginning of the installation process without problems.

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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-23 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:55:51AM +0300, Viacheslav Chumushuk wrote:

 Hello.
 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 7.0, but I have next problem.
 When installation program write new partitions structure to disc it exits 
 with 
 next error: Unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad1s1a! Command 
 returned status 36.
 
 And at the start of installation process I have warning about wrong disk 
 geometry.
 
 My HDD is Segate ST340810A 40Gb, and I was trying write geometry (which I 
 found on its case and in BIOS), but without success.
 The same problem with FreeBSD 6.2 and another my HDD.
 But hardware looks good, because Linux and OpenBSD was installed without any 
 problems.

Probably your best bet is to ignore the geometry stuff and
just let it do its own thing.   Do not try to set the geometry.
In reality, geometry is generally  'virtual' nowdays.

jerry

 
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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-23 Thread Steve Bertrand

Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 01:55:51AM +0300, Viacheslav Chumushuk wrote:


And at the start of installation process I have warning about wrong disk 
geometry.



Probably your best bet is to ignore the geometry stuff and
just let it do its own thing.   Do not try to set the geometry.
In reality, geometry is generally  'virtual' nowdays.


I concur with Roland and Jerry about ignoring the geometry warning.

I've been doing so for as long as I can remember and I've never had an 
issue.


Steve
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Re: Installation error. Command returned status 36

2008-06-23 Thread Ruel Luchavez
Hey Viacheslav,

I always ignore that message every time I will install fresh FreeBSD
It doesn't not create error or anything during the installation.

Cheers...


Hello.
 I'm trying to install FreeBSD 7.0, but I have next problem.
 When installation program write new partitions structure to disc it exits
 with
 next error: Unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad1s1a! Command
 returned status 36.

 And at the start of installation process I have warning about wrong disk
 geometry.

 My HDD is Segate ST340810A 40Gb, and I was trying write geometry (which I
 found on its case and in BIOS), but without success.
 The same problem with FreeBSD 6.2 and another my HDD.
 But hardware looks good, because Linux and OpenBSD was installed without
 any
 problems.

 Thanks for help.
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Re: installation of Python failed: ./python: Permission denied

2008-05-17 Thread Sahil Tandon
* Simon Jolle sjolle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-17-2008]:

 ./python: Permission denied
 *** Error code 126

Anything in /etc/fstab being mounted with noexec,nosuid?

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Re: installation of Python failed: ./python: Permission denied

2008-05-17 Thread Simon Jolle sjolle
On 05/18/2008 12:08 AM, Sahil Tandon wrote:
 * Simon Jolle sjolle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05-17-2008]:
 
 ./python: Permission denied
 *** Error code 126
 
 Anything in /etc/fstab being mounted with noexec,nosuid?

No nothing noexec or nosuid. Filesystems table is out-of-the-box. Thanks

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Re: Installation with IP alias

2008-05-10 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Saturday 10 May 2008, constantine wrote:
 Dear FreeBSD Aficionados,

 I am trying to install FreeBSD in my notebook through an external USB
 CD-ROM. While the installation manager runs fine, after choosing the
 installation media it says it cannot mount /dev/acd0 (which refers to
 the notebook's built-in broken cdrom).
 What could I do?

 As an alternative I tried installing through FTP. The problem is that
 my network configuration has to be as such (with ip aliasing and some
 static routes):
 defaultrouter=192.168.1.1
 static_routes=beastie puffy
 route_beastie=-net 10.0.0.0/8 10.96.66.254
 route_puffy=-net 10.96.66.253/32 10.96.66.2
 hostname=payaso.costis.name
 ifconfig_rl0=inet 10.96.66.2  netmask 255.255.255.0
 ifconfig_rl0_alias0=inet 192.168.1.36  netmask 255.255.255.0

 ... and the holographic emergency shell is somewhat hostile to running
 ifconfig/route: (command: not found)

 My DNS server is 10.96.66.1


 Thank you very much in advance for any insights!...

 Yours,

 Constantine Tsardounis
 http://costis.name

You could try the livefs CD, which should have everything you need to get the 
network working. I suppose you could then install from FTP using sysinstall. 
If that doesn't work you could install FreeBSD on a USB (flash?) disk, boot 
from it, then basically copy the whole USB disk to the HDD of your laptop, or 
something like that.

Good Luck!

Pieter de Goeje
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