On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 10:34:26PM -0600, Modulok wrote:
> > looks like what i need NOW is a debugger, :-) i have virtually
> > zero design skills except "keep it simple"
>
> To quote Albert Einstein, "Everything should be made as simple as possible,
> but
> not simpler".
>
>
> As far as
> looks like what i need NOW is a debugger, :-) i have virtually
> zero design skills except "keep it simple"
To quote Albert Einstein, "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but
not simpler".
Much of the problem with the web today is the reliance on 'designers,' who are
primari
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Frank Shute
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:51 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Gary Kline; FreeBSD Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
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>
On Sat, 2008-05-31 at 11:19 +0530, N. Raghavendra wrote:
> At 2008-05-30T21:28:58-07:00, Gary Kline wrote:
>
> > Any guesses why things like this blowup::
> >
> >
>
> The quoted string above is the so-called Formal Public Identifier
> (FPI) of the DTD, i.e., the "standard", that your HTML page
At 2008-05-30T21:28:58-07:00, Gary Kline wrote:
> Any guesses why things like this blowup::
>
>
The quoted string above is the so-called Formal Public Identifier
(FPI) of the DTD, i.e., the "standard", that your HTML page claims to
conform to. However, the format of the FPI in your page is wr
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 09:49:50PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
Questions on validation
> >
> > > 4.
> > >
> > > Steal a simple page that validates:
> > >
> > > http://www.shute.org.uk/miscellany.html
> > >
> >
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 02:04:51PM -0700, Kent wrote:
> On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote:
> > > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > > >>-Original Message-
> > > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Be
ist
> > Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
> >
> >
> >
> > Chill down a bit, okay? first, (as the OP), i did not know
> > thaat there was *this** great a disparity in thee rendering
> > between classes of browsers. i used to
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 07:39:02PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
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> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:05:36PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > >
>
> [[ ... ]]
>
> >
> > > /* * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its
> > > repl
On Friday 30 May 2008 12:04:16 pm Gary Kline wrote:
> On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 01:31:01AM -0400, DAve wrote:
> > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > >>-Original Message-
> > >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Kline
> >
> > I nearly spit coffee on my keyboard! I
;>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> >>Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
> >>Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
> >>
> >>
> >>you probably didn't start with the earlier markup. back then,
> >>'93-4, there was ,, , and . i wrote a 2.2K-
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 10:52:31AM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
>
> I suspect that using an editor that _correctly_ highlights HTML code
> would solve most of your problems.
Yes, that is why I suggested tidy in addition to the other online
validators. If one's editor tool doesn't help, tidy is close
On 5/29/08, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
>> On 5/29/08, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
>> >was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was
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> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
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>
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
you probably didn't
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> From: Gary Kline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 3:14 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
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>
> Chill down a bit
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> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 2:51 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List
> Subject: Re: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
>
>
> you
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 06:14:26PM -0400, Bob Johnson wrote:
> On 5/29/08, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
> [...]
> > I'd be much obliged for any hel
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 11:05:36PM +0100, Frank Shute wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
[[ ... ]]
>
> > /*
> > * strange:: the way that mutt queues [ and orders ] its replies and
> > threads is
> > * different from kmail. I only use a GUI when
On Thu, 29 May 2008 14:50:53 -0700
Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites.
>
> do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports??
How about Plone or other Zope-based apps? Plone is in ports:
/usr/ports/www/plone3
as is Silva:
On 5/29/08, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
[...]
> I'd be much obliged for any help here.
>
>
Konqueror says that the comment that reads
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 05:00:57AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post.
>
> Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting
> and the e
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
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> On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> > >was so
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:38:05AM -0700, Kevin Downey wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[[ ... ]]
> Konq uses more or less the same rendering engine as Safari.
interesting. where is this browser in ports. locate doesnt
FWIW, I'Ve switch back to mutt. i can't live without vi
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 12:30:05AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
> Don't bother, Gary.
>
> The world is moving towards CMS systems for hosting websites.
do we have such a mngnmt system tool in ports??
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:52:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote:
> ...
> > memory to load all the required libs in displaying "Hello World". Some
> > of the CMS tools are very very heavy. Straight static HTML can be
> > blisteringly fast in comparison unless
On Thu May 29 2008 13:26:43 DAve wrote:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> >>>was so hard to
On Thu May 29 2008 08:46:29 David Kelly wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> > was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
> > on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped a
Gary Kline wrote:
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on th
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 01:05:22PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
> > On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> > >was so hard to re
On Thu May 29 2008 00:39:06 Christian Zachariasen wrote:
> On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> >was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
> >on the deep-b
On Wed, May 28, 2008 at 11:57:35PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
> was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
> on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
> firefox; things looked f
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Downey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Let be the first of many to say, please do not top post.
Let me be the first to say please don't quote the entire posting
and the entire response.
> In a recent interview it was revealed that the New York Times doe
At 2008-05-28T23:57:35-07:00, Gary Kline wrote:
> Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly what
> causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any other
> ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the learning
> curve. But:: if/when I come up with a bet
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Gary Kline wrote:
> Other than beginning from Zero and trying to determine exactly
> what causes firefox and konq to diverge, do any of you have any
> other ideas? I've never learned an HTML editors because of the
> learn
On Thu, May 29, 2008 at 8:57 AM, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
>was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
>on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
>firefox;
sage-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Kline
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:58 PM
>> To: FreeBSD Mailing List
>> Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may be OT.
>>
>>
>> Several weeks ago a friend asked
of HTML tags. It
is understanding how all the things work together.
Ted
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gary Kline
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 11:58 PM
> To: FreeBSD Mailing List
> Subject: Stumped:: web HTML. Caution, may
Several weeks ago a friend asked why my www.thought.org page
was so hard to read. She said that part of my text was black
on the deep-blue bg on my RHS. I stopped and checked with
firefox; things looked fine. I've done all markup by hand since
'94, very c
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