Re: [Freedos-kernel] kernel 2034rc for testing

2004-04-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 15--2004 01:16 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bernd Blaauw) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: page, previous time I don't found it (if it was present). Also, when planned 2034 release? May be I wait this release and download it completely (instead patch), if it will be soon? BB the idea is to test *before*

Re: [Freedos-kernel] kernel 2034rc for testing

2004-04-14 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: BB I include this 2034 kernel in the next FreeDOS distribution, next Sunday. BB there have been a few times where a kernel was released, and a few days BB later a new kernel followed it because a larger public found a few bugs. :) Kernel

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel config.c,1.75,1.76 config.h,1.3,1.4 kernel.asm,1.50,1.51 main.c,1.70,1.71 segs.inc,1.17,1.18 task.c,1.40,1.41

2004-04-13 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 13 Apr 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: 13-áÐÒ-2004 11:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: +++ task.c13 Apr 2004 11:54:09 - 1.41 + fstrcpy(Shell + strlen(Shell), MK_FP(FP_SEG(Config), Config-cfgInitTail)); endp = Shell + strlen(Shell);

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel config.c,1.75,1.76 config.h,1.3,1.4 kernel.asm,1.50,1.51 main.c,1.70,1.71 segs.inc,1.17,1.18 task.c,1.40,1.41

2004-04-13 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Arkady, AVB Why? To make code more portable between assemblers. ROTFL tom --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel config.c,1.75,1.76 config.h,1.3,1.4 kernel.asm,1.50,1.51 main.c,1.70,1.71 segs.inc,1.17,1.18 task.c,1.40,1.41

2004-04-13 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 13--2004 19:58 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB Why? To make code more portable between assemblers. te ROTFL ? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel config.c,1.75,1.76 config.h,1.3,1.4 kernel.asm,1.50,1.51 main.c,1.70,1.71 segs.inc,1.17,1.18 task.c,1.40,1.41

2004-04-13 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Arkady, AVB Why? To make code more portable between assemblers. te ROTFL AVB ? Rolling On The Floor Laughing you really can't keep things untouched? I would really HATE the kernels assembly sources converted into GMOUSE cryptographic sources. tom

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel config.c,1.75,1.76 config.h,1.3,1.4 kernel.asm,1.50,1.51 main.c,1.70,1.71 segs.inc,1.17,1.18 task.c,1.40,1.41

2004-04-13 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 13--2004 20:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB Why? To make code more portable between assemblers. te ROTFL te Rolling On The Floor Laughing te you really can't keep things untouched? See the difference: keep untouched or do so or so.

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel makefile,1.16,1.17

2004-04-12 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 12--2004 00:22 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Forged to remove old INITHEADERS. Also, what bad in $(HDR)*.h, why enumerating .h files is better? BO It's not better as such, but I'm not sure if * works for all the different BO make tools we are using. It's

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel inithma.c,1.23,1.24 kernel.asm,1.47,1.48 main.c,1.69,1.70 segs.inc,1.16,1.17

2004-04-12 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 12--2004 00:30 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: in kernel.asm. Use std for the memory move: helps if there's overlap (PCs with a very low amount of RAM). +fmemcpy(HMADest, HMASource, len); _Standard_ memcpy() _doesn't_ handles memory overlapping.

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: generic.mak

2004-04-12 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 13--2004 02:06 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB I test TC MAKE. Not funny image: TC MAKE doesn't support !ifndef, AVB WMAKED doesn't support $d(). BTW, just for information: TC compiles kernel (from scratch) in 3-4 minutes, BC - 8-9 minutes, OW - 17-25 minutes.

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: batch and make files (description)

2004-04-08 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Arkady, AVB PS4: repeat for my previous question: why to duplicate clean and AVB clobber? Another one: who make files status.me, *.cod, *.las? *.cod are generated by MSC, if compiled with 'generate assembly listing with source' (very handy when debugging) tom

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: batch and make files (description)

2004-04-08 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 8--2004 09:11 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB PS4: repeat for my previous question: why to duplicate clean and AVB clobber? Another one: who make files status.me, *.cod, *.las? te *.cod are generated by MSC, if compiled with 'generate assembly

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: batch and make files

2004-04-06 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: PS: config.h also may be removed, because it is dummy (for this only required to remove reference in globals.h). When (and if!) it will be required, it may be added back. config.h contains struct config { /* Configuration variables */ after

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-06 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 23:13:16 +0100 (BST), Bart Oldeman wrote: Hi, in the FAQ, somebody claims that file handle 4 should default to PRN: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=incoming/224 Any idea why this would work at all? And why it works in MS but not in FreeDOS? Used

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: batch and make files (description)

2004-04-05 Thread Jim Hall
At least one of your emails was trapped by the SF mail system until I was able to free it this morning. Emails may not be over 40k in length, or else they are held until the list owner (me) accepts or rejects them (a manual process.) -jh Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! [Don't know what

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-05 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
Hi, in the FAQ, somebody claims that file handle 4 should default to PRN: http://fd-doc.sourceforge.net/faq/cgi-bin/viewfaq.cgi?faq=incoming/224 Any idea why this would work at all? And why it works in MS but not in FreeDOS? Used language is C. Look at the definitions in stdio.h - stdaux is

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-05 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
MS-DOS: CON, AUX, PRN, CLOCK$, A:-D:, COM1, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, CONFIG$, COM2, COM3, COM4 FreeDOS: CON, PRN, AUX, LPT1, LPT2, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, CLOCK$, A:-D: Fortunately, fixing this is very easy. It's enough to swap the corresponding entries in io.asm. Do I need to provide a patch for

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-05 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
Fortunately, fixing this is very easy. It's enough to swap the corresponding entries in io.asm. Do I need to provide a patch for this? Here it is, below. Now stdaux and stdprn should work as in MS-DOS. As always, a patched CVS kernel binary (FAT32, 80386, BC 4.52, aPack) is available in my

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-05 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Erwin Veermans schreef: Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~lig/romdsk/romd-bin.rar on this server. What am I doing wrong, or should I send some cigars first ? ;-) confirmed. do you compile from source or always work with binaries like I did? latest binary from Jeremy took a

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-05 Thread Erwin Veermans
Forbidden You don't have permission to access /~lig/romdsk/romd-bin.rar on this server. confirmed. do you compile from source or always work with binaries like I did? Usually I work with the official kernel release (binary). But when time goes by and some interesting patches float

Re: [Freedos-kernel] handle 4 defaulting to PRN???

2004-04-05 Thread Aitor Santamaría Merino
Hi Eric, Eric Auer escribió: Hi, in the FAQ, somebody claims that file handle 4 should default to PRN: In my undersanding, handle 4 is stdprn (the other three being stdin, stdout, and stdaux, always using C's notation). So it shoulds sensible that it should point to PRN anyway, isn't it?

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: batch and make files

2004-04-04 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Arkady, AVB I test batch and make files both under OW12 and BC31 would be great if you ewoild test them with TV 2.01 also (this is a reference compiler, BC31 not) btw: there is absolutely no need to mess with them - they usually work. tom

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patch: batch and make files

2004-04-04 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Arkady V.Belousov schreef: Hi! 4--2004 17:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB I test batch and make files both under OW12 and BC31 te would be great if you ewoild ewoild=perform? would - 'if you would test them' te test them with TV 2.01

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: FreeDOS idle HLT

2004-03-29 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:55:44 -0300, Alain wrote: New Power supplies are very cheap. For that they have simplified many important circuits. They don't handle current fluctuations vary well. Well, again from bad to worse... They must come with a BIG red sign HLT forbidden! then :-( Lucho

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-29 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:00:54 -0300, Alain wrote: INHO and considering that FreeDOS is in C versus all other DOSes being in ASM ROM-DOS, our greatest living competitor (not speaking of the venerable DR-DOS that is still in coma and PC-DOS that must have finally died in 2002) is also written 90%

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-27 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:22:20 + (GMT), Bart Oldeman wrote: Can you check again? I think I solved at least Lucho's problem during the init phase -- when fnodes could overlap disk buffers! Weird things could happen indeed. Congratulations, Bart! Bug fixed indeed - just tried. But I keep thinking

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel buildall.bat,1.3,1.4

2004-03-27 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Batch file: __O\_/_\_/O__ @echo off ver/r set a=1 set b=if %%a%%== echo b set c=if not %%a%%== echo c %b% %c% _

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-27 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 27--2004 12:18 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG Bad news: the new build batch files don't do anything in 4DOS, probably BO it's picky about BO call config BO instead of BO call config.bat And? [BTW, just check under freecom - also all works.] PS: I not

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-27 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 27--2004 21:10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Becuase I show in skipped part you, that this doesn't (always) works. BO that (not accepting call default.bat) is a bug in 4dos 6.02 then that call cls.com calls internal command both in NDOS and

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patches

2004-03-26 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 26--2004 11:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Bart, what wrong wit my latest patches for batch files and for sources? They are small and they are tested - which reason to silently reject them? BO not rejected, just haven't got around to look at them

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patches

2004-03-26 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Hi! 26-íÁÒ-2004 19:33 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: And let me remind you two more bugs, which you don't fix yet: first one is in INT 21/6C (lost check for nonzero AL) BO that's not a bug, we discussed

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-26 Thread Bart Oldeman
The patched kernel behaves very strangely! :-( It outputs an error for DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIRAM.EXE line and doesn't load it and repeates this with many other lines (but not all). For my simpler floppy configuration, it doesn't load HIMEM64.EXE without even showing an error! The

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patches

2004-03-26 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 26--2004 22:09 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is bug. When Lucho says that this is patch from me, I quote him my letter where was _not_ sayed, that check for AL should be removed - there was discussed only checks for DL. BO That's a

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patches

2004-03-26 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 26--2004 21:24 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [...] bugs, which you don't fix yet: first one is in INT 21/6C (lost check for nonzero AL) LG I already wrote you: This is NOT a bug - What you wrote to me was: You probably forgot about that. Check for

Re: [Freedos-kernel] VDISK header

2004-03-26 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 26--2004 23:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB ; the HMA area is filled with 1eh+3(=sizeof VDISK) = 33 byte dummy data, AVB ; so nothing will ever be below 0x:0031 AVB begin_hma: AVB times 10h db 0 ; filler [:0..:10] AVB

Re: [Freedos-kernel] VDISK header

2004-03-26 Thread Bart Oldeman
Also, where documented VDISK header (where I may read about this)? BO It's in the VCPI spec. Available at many places including here: BO www.dose.se/docs/osdoc/unsorted/ProtectedMode/VCPI.txt No, there sayed only about signature and showed how to copy word value from offset 0x1E. :(

Re: [Freedos-kernel] patches

2004-03-26 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:22:59 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote: PS: Just checked TechHelp: it says nothing about AL, only AH=6C. Definitely bug in RBIL. :( MS-DOS technical reference defines AL=0 as reserved (http://www.clipx.net/ng/dos5/ng1ff99.php). We already discussed this issue last

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-24 Thread Erwin Veermans
The patched kernel behaves very strangely! :-( It outputs an error for DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIRAM.EXE line and doesn't load it and repeates this with many other lines (but not all). For my simpler floppy configuration, it doesn't load HIMEM64.EXE without even showing an error! The current

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-24 Thread Erwin Veermans
The current nightly-kernel may have reached a new landmark in the quest for smaller conventinal-memory footprint but it lost ground in usability and compatibility. My test-machines halt on various arbitrary points telling me: more than two near fnodes requested at the same time ok

Re: [Freedos-kernel] new conv mem highs.

2004-03-24 Thread Bernd Blaauw
The current nightly-kernel may have reached a new landmark in the quest for smaller conventinal-memory footprint but it lost ground in usability and compatibility. My test-machines halt on various arbitrary points telling me: more than two near fnodes requested at the same time if files=10 would

Re: [Freedos-kernel] root entries field

2004-03-23 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Tue, 23 Mar 2004, Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Bart, let me remind me %subject% issue: why FD returns nonzero field for FAT32 in (and only in) current BPB? most likely because of dsk.c: pbpbarray-bpb_ndirent = 512; Why that line is there? I don't know. It was already in the first FAT32

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: [Freedos-cvs] kernel/kernel fatdir.c,1.40,1.41 etc

2004-03-22 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 22--2004 14:47 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to FreeDOS-kernel [EMAIL PROTECTED]: if (new_diroff == 65535) Borland C++ complains here. Change the constant to 65535UL (see patch below). Hm, don't see letter with these words. LG Although Borland says constant is long,

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: kernel/kernel fatfs.c,1.52,1.53 proto.h,1.50,1.51 memmgr.c,1.27,1.28

2004-03-22 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Eric Auer wrote: Hi, about add_far() pointer normalization: I think it would be better to normalize earlier. If you have a pointer, you normally have a pointer to a STRUCTURE. If the end of the structure ends up with an offset 0x then having the POINTER normalized is

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: Last change introduced an unknown unit delete bug

2004-03-22 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: :\elv_3e5.1 I mean i:\elv_3e5.1 Sorry for my typo! should be fixed now. remove_lfn_entries() calls dir_read with the offset == -1 which is not possible for normal directories (. and ..) but is possible for root directories. So the 65535 check

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: kernel/kernel fatfs.c,1.52,1.53 proto.h,1.50,1.51 memmgr.c,1.27,1.28

2004-03-22 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 22--2004 14:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bart Oldeman) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: BO add_far is only used at a few select places where we want to have the BO offset part as low as possible. Nothing to do with structures but BO everything to do with potentially large file reads, with read chunk, BO

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Last change introduced an unknown unit delete bug

2004-03-22 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
Bart, unfortunately your very last change (scaling and shortening the directory entry pointer) introduced a bug! When I start my elvis editor (a vi clone) and exit it, it can't delete its temporary file ELV_3E5.1 from my XMSDSK RAM disk where is my temporary directory. 4DOS fails to delete it

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: kernel/kernel fatfs.c,1.52,1.53 proto.h,1.50,1.51 memmgr.c,1.27,1.28

2004-03-22 Thread tom ehlert
Hello Arkady, AVB Then rename add_far into normalize_ptr and remove misleading. noone is going to rename functions because you don't like the names. AVB Also, AVB I may offer next code to always perform normalization: It's there for some specific purpose. AVB (BTW, is protection AVB from

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: Last change introduced an unknown unit bug

2004-03-22 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: But what if it was the first entry in the root directory? Then the new_diroff++ in dir_read() will make it -1! remove_lfn_entries() checks for fnp-f_diroff == 0. The first entry can't have any LFN entries connected to it. Bart

Re: [Freedos-kernel] LF written to the file being read?

2004-03-22 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
But what if it was the first entry in the root directory? Then the new_diroff++ in dir_read() will make it -1! remove_lfn_entries() checks for fnp-f_diroff == 0. The first entry can't have any LFN entries connected to it. Of course! I should have seen that. This is so for lfn_dir_read() too. I

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: kernel/kernel fatfs.c,1.52,1.53 proto.h,1.50,1.51 memmgr.c,1.27,1.28

2004-03-22 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Mon, 22 Mar 2004, tom ehlert wrote: AVB (BTW, is protection AVB from wrapping HMA pointer into IVT by replacing wrapping into start of HMA AVB worth of code?) a working kernel is worth a lot of code (even if you don't see the reason immediately) HANDS OFF THE KERNEL, please. in the end

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Extra CRs after input in output file

2004-03-21 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 11:14:39 +0200, I wrote: the redirected output contains two consequtive carriage returns though. I mean that the output file contains extra CRs only after the r and q input commands, not where DEBUG does its own output. Good news - I now saw that this is exactly the same

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: editing command line

2004-03-21 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 21--2004 17:06 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I use both features (F3 and Ins to edit command line) in MS-DOS often. BTW, they are also available in DEBUG. Isn't this mean, that editing features built-in into kernel? LG Yes. They're implemented in

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: editing command line

2004-03-21 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
I mean: is this mean, that editing code is/should duplicated in kernel and command.com? As far as I know, no. FreeCOM has its own command line editor with history and auto-competion. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: editing command line

2004-03-21 Thread tom ehlert
AVB 1. In kernel present editing code. yes. AVB 2. If code presented in command.com, how this affects other programs (say, AVBDEBUG)? command.com implements it's own doswedit-style input editor. it doesn't affect other programs (it's not exported) tom

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: editing command line

2004-03-21 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
I mean: is this mean, that editing code is/should duplicated in kernel and command.com? As far as I know, no. FreeCOM has its own command line editor with history and auto-completion. But: 1. In kernel present editing code. 2. If code presented in command.com, how this affects other programs

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: editing command line

2004-03-21 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 21--2004 19:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (tom ehlert) wrote to Arkady V.Belousov [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I again send not finished sentence. :( I mean: AVB 1. In kernel present editing code. te yes. ...then which reason to reimplement this in command.com? AVB 2. If code presented in

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Re: editing command line

2004-03-21 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
The F3-style command line editing is in the kernel because function 0Ah (3Fh when reading from standard input) in MS-DOS does it. Period. As to FreeCOM, it has a better (4DOS-style) command line editing and I don't see a reason for a separate DOSEDIT. Period. I'll not answer anymore.

Re: [Freedos-kernel] chario.c, dsk.c, floppy.asm patches

2004-03-21 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 23:42:26 + (GMT), Bart Oldeman wrote: It appears that ^C has to be echoed to stdout. This is easy to test, I'm using a simple test0a program, see below. If you (in MSDOS) run test0a foo and press ^C then the ^C ends up in foo. Or if I run DEBUG BOZA then type ^C and Q

Re: [Freedos-kernel] nevermind..

2004-03-19 Thread Bernd Blaauw
reason is speedup. It's faster to read a single 360KB file into RAM and then run from there, than to keep reading a diskette. guess you had the bootdisk from prerelease 4, or the one below: http://fdos.org/ripcord/beta9rc5/fdos1440.img the real floppy contents is accessible as B: are you the

Re: [Freedos-kernel] freedos boot problems / about me

2004-03-19 Thread Bernd Blaauw
it's the CDRcache driver which causes the cdrom disk resets, not SHSUCDX itself. option 2 should prevent it from loading, as no XMS driver is loaded. Bernd --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial

Re: [Freedos-kernel] redirection BUG

2004-03-17 Thread Bart Oldeman
That's strange. Then MS-DOS DEBUG would also leak handles... the difference is that msdos debug calls int21/ah=26 instead of 55. Here's a kernel bug inspired by the RBIL comment this function is implemented using the same code as AH=26h taken too literally... Reality is that the only things

Re: [Freedos-kernel] DEBUG redirection bug fixed, 2 new remain

2004-03-17 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:37:07 + (GMT), Bart Oldeman wrote: It looks like a bug in both DEBUG and the kernel. What happens is the reference count in the SFT gets too high. 1. open: 1 2. int21/ax=4b: 2 3. int21/ax=55: 3 (this function called by debug) then: 4. int20: 2 5. int21/ah= 3e: 1 ... and

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Patch: ZIP media change not detected bug fix

2004-03-17 Thread Bart Oldeman
On Wed, 17 Mar 2004, Luchezar Georgiev wrote: The patch below should fix the ZIP media change not detected bug, *if* my assumption about ZIP driver setting both DF_FIXED and DF_CHANGELINE is right. Never hurts to assume that this MAY happen though... If the ZIP drive has its own device driver

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Patch: ZIP media change not detected bug fix

2004-03-17 Thread Jim Lilly
Bart, Or is it really handled via the BIOS as drive A: or drive C:? My PC allows for ZIP to be set as first boot device. IF a disk is in it during bootup it is seen as C: -or- If I use Iomega's DOS level drivers GUEST.EXE program on a bootable floppy disk in A: AND a disk is in the

Re: [Freedos-kernel] redirection BUG

2004-03-16 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:27:45 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote: a int 3 g=100 q Run DEBUGT.DRESULT (where DEBUG is by Paul Vojta, MS-DEBUG doesn't work under FreeDOS). This is wrong. MS-DOS 7.10 DEBUG *does* work under FreeDOS 7.10! I've used it many many times. Under MS-DOS result file

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-16 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, Jim, please, retest with latest bootfix version (1.3) - now it analyzes not only default, but also current BPB. Zip file sent to you. beta9rc4 is outdated and definitely should be updated. Considering comments by Luchezar G, there's something wrong on the server I got that ISO

Re: [Freedos-kernel] redirection BUG

2004-03-16 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 16--2004 18:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: LG So, when I have time (at the week end probably), I'll try to catch the LG bug. If Bart has time, he may want to overtake me ;-) Probably, this is not the last bug. I wait details from Jim Lilly, but

Re: [Freedos-kernel] ZIP media change not sensed bug

2004-03-16 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:01:22 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Probably, this is not the last bug. Last bug?! You know just like every order in the army, every bug is a last but one ;) looks like FreeDOS doesn't sense media change (in Zip drive, available as C:) This is probably because

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-15 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 13:45:43 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote: So, there was a bug in kernel, which was used previously. This should be reported for those, who prepare ISO images: beta9rc4 is outdated and definitely should be updated. There is something wrong here. The latest official kernel

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-15 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 15--2004 12:23 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Luchezar Georgiev) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: should be reported for those, who prepare ISO images: beta9rc4 is outdated and definitely should be updated. LG There is something wrong here. The latest official kernel (build 2033) LG went out on 31 January.

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot code testing???

2004-03-14 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 19:16:00 CST, Jim Lilly wrote: If I remember correctly, FAT32 volumes must be at least 128 MB in size. Where might I read up on that info? Microsoft have stated that the minimum is even 256 MB (in

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot code testing???

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Luchezar, In any case, ZIP disks must be formatted with FAT16 and nothing else. Yep, just had the link to Iomega stating that sent to me. -- Jim Lilly - Team Z http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/teamzBios.jsp Using - Virtual Access(OLR), ZAP 4.5, WinXP Pro w/SP1

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot code testing???

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 12--2004 21:08 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arkady V.Belousov: JL I tried the only updating the boot sector using FreeDOS' SYS and got; JL D:\Download\FreeDOSsys X: BOOTONLY JL FreeDOS System Installer v2.9, Sep 24 2003 JL Processing boot sector... JL Reading old

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot code testing???

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 12--2004 20:02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arkady V.Belousov: This is FAT16, so FAT size here should be 190 sectors. JL Hmmm, THAT particular disk should have been FAT32or I got confused. This disk (with such clusters count) can't be FAT32. Under

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 13--2004 15:44 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to ark: JL Attached is [misc.zip] JL File notes from Jim Lilly; JL RSLT_SR6 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results Looks valid and workable. JL RSLT_16 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results Looks like there is problems: OS says that FAT

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot code testing???

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, http://makeashorterlink.com/?K379136B7 Should I format my Jaz or Zip disk with FAT32? Answer Iomega® does not support nor recommend the use of FAT32 formatting with Zip® or Jaz® disks. Warning: Data integrity maybe an issue using FAT32 formatting. Iomega recommends formatting

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 14--2004 14:33 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: JL Attached is [misc.zip] JL File notes from Jim Lilly; JL RSLT_SR6 - ZIP100, FAT, BOOTFIX results __O\_/_\_/O__ Checking drive C: Reading default BPB... [...] Volume is a

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, Which OS you was use for tests? FreeDOS Which software you use to prepare (format) these ZIP diskettes? WinXP Pro initially, SpinRite for the one ZIP disk. Also, disk geometry in boot record differs from one, reported by OS. This is, probably, not very important (in given case),

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot code testing???

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, - v2.9 is outdated (old kernel). Might be, but it's what's on. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/beta 9rc4/fdbootcd.zip Also note; THAT CD of FreeDOS did NOT 'see' anything but the CDROM Floppy drivesno ZIP, no HD. - You can't use SYS

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 07:55:10 CST, Jim Lilly wrote: [...] SpinRite which uses FreeDOS incorrectly 'claims' to have successfully formatted such FAT32 ZIP-100 disks.yet fail to boot. THAT is the focal point of troubles with FreeDOS I'm having. SpinRite uses FreeDOS for it's formatting

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Luchezar, FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first? I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only sees A: the CDROM. Therefore FreeDOS won't allow me to do anything to my ZIP drive. By the

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 08:32:47 CST, Jim Lilly wrote: FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first? I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only sees A: the CDROM. Therefore FreeDOS won't allow me to

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Luchezar, Have you tried such a driver in MS-DOS or FreeDOS? I'll setup a DOS bootdisk as such. How is such done with a FreeDOS boot floppy? -- Jim Lilly - Team Z http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/teamzBios.jsp Using - Virtual Access(OLR), ZAP 4.5, WinXP Pro

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 10:15:30 CST, Jim Lilly wrote: Luchezar, No need to send me a carbon copy, I'm subscribed here. Have you tried such a driver in MS-DOS or FreeDOS? I'll setup a DOS bootdisk as such. How is such done with a FreeDOS boot floppy? ODIN is already bootable (see FreeDOS site for

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 14--2004 07:55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Arkady V.Belousov: Not needed to CC for me, I subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which OS you was use for tests? JL FreeDOS Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify this, may this is

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Steve from GRC.COM said you needed testers

2004-03-14 Thread MV
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 17:42:11 -, James Stockton wrote: Tell me what to test smile And another! Not Iomega Zip/Jazz G FAT32 issues were mentioned. Please say required Kernel, etc. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 14--2004 20:47 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify AVB this, may this is expected behavior. ---^^^ may be AVB Do you mean, that AVB - XP formats to FAT16 and makes bootable: diskette boots AVB

Re: [Freedos-kernel] Steve from GRC.COM said you needed testers

2004-03-14 Thread James Stockton
Whats me choice of kernels smile? --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Luchezar Georgiev
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 20:47:44 +0300 (MSK), Arkady V.Belousov wrote: Which OS you was use for tests? FreeDOS Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. I think, Bart may/should clarify this, maybe this is expected behavior. What we're talking about here? Does the bootstrap from FreeDOS fail? If so, it's

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 14--2004 20:47 Arkady V.Belousov wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: AVB Probably, bug in FreeDOS kernel. Ops, sorry, too husty conlusion: BOOTFIX analyzes _default_ BPB, which is _suggestion_ by OS for given media. Boot record should be compared with current BPB, which is used by OS for

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Luchezar, You need to make a CONFIG.SYS (device=iomega_driver_name) Will do. (Do you mean that IOMEGA still really support DOS??? ;-) Nothing NEW, but older DOS/Win 3.1 drivers for 'guest' are available in their archives. -- Jim Lilly - Team Z

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Luchezar, Does the bootstrap from FreeDOS fail? If so, it's because of the bad boot sector. Exactly! If so, it's because of the bad boot sector. Does FORMAT under FreeDOS fail? No! Undetermined, not No! But I'll check. -- Jim Lilly - Team Z

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, Moreover, if MS-FORMAT allows to format 100 Mb as FAT32 (and XP works with it flawlessly?), then this should be accepted by us also. But it doesn't work 'flawlessly'. I can read/write/copy/move/delete to - from a ZIP-100 FAT32 disk, but it is NOT bootable. Do you mean, that - XP

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 14--2004 08:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED], Luchezar Georgiev: FreeDOS formatting tool is FORMAT currently maintained by Eric Auer. Why don't you try to use FORMAT on your ZIP first? JL I would if I could, but FreeDOS doesn't 'see' the ZIP drive, it only sees

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net) Hmm, when I go to http://freedos.sourceforge.net/ I'm presented with a bunch of choices. Do you mean for me to get; kernel 2032? http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=312180 kernel 2033?

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Jim Lilly
Arkady, But earlier you say, that you test BOOTFIX under FreeDOS and access Zip as C:? Probably when I'd used SR, booted off it, then switched diskettes. I'm beginning to get a bit overwhelmed with all of this. Maybe I'll tinker around some more tonight, before giving up. -- Jim

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread James Stockton
I'm trying out the nightly kernel, not sure if thats what they mean. But its worth a look i think. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread MV
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004 19:42:13 -, James Stockton wrote: I'm trying out the nightly kernel, not sure if thats what they mean. But its worth a look i think. As soon as I can get to it, will be using 2.0.33 http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freedos/ke2033_32.zip?download Trying to get the

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread Arkady V.Belousov
Hi! 14--2004 13:32 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Lilly) wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. get latest SYS version (comes with kernel, available at freedos.sf.net) JL kernel 2033? Yes. Also, there was some changes in kernel. AFAIK, Luchezar presents precompiled kernels with all up to date patches

Re: [Freedos-kernel] FAT - FAT32 - SYS boot

2004-03-14 Thread James Stockton
Tested fat32 booting on me hard drive works fine. --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to

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