Re: [Freedos-user] parallel port problems
At 15:01 24/05/2010 +0100, you wrote: On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Ray rcarl...@bigpond.net.au wrote: am having trouble with a new install of freedos printing to a parallel printer - previously it work ok but after a new computer was installed we have no access to printer - the mainboard is a gigabyte am3 with no onboard lpt port - a 3rd party lpt card was installed prior to installing freedos - the database was transfered in toto from the old computer as we had done previously with no effect on printing capability [previous computer has onboard lpt port is it that the addin 3rd party lpt card is not usable by freedos It should work. Do you have any basic DOS diagnostics like MSD or Quarterdeck's MFT? It might be worth checking that the add-in card is on LPT1: - it is possible it's on LPT2: or LPT3: instead. -- Liam Proven thanks liam i am onsite again in the morning to check it out further its a plain install of freedos + the proprietary database the system is running no diags available except ultimate boot cd, tuff pro on cd so 3rd party card should be visible in bios?? ray -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] parallel port problems
At 16:21 24/05/2010 +0200, you wrote: On 05/24/2010 12:04 PM, Ray wrote: am having trouble with a new install of freedos printing to a parallel printer - previously it work ok but after a new computer was installed we have no access to printer - the mainboard is a gigabyte am3 with no onboard lpt port - a 3rd party lpt card was installed prior to installing freedos - the database was transfered in toto from the old computer as we had done previously with no effect on printing capability [previous computer has onboard lpt port is it that the addin 3rd party lpt card is not usable by freedos ray -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user You don't mention installing a DOS driver for the addon card (usually in autoexec.bat). Most modern PCI cards need a driver, it should be on the CD if it came with one. i didnt do it - its years since i had anything to do with dos - didnt realise a driver was req for addon cards there is a cd and according to the docs with the card - a dos driver ray -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
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Re: [Freedos-user] HowTo dual boot dos/win98se dos
Michael Bernardi wrote: I currently have a 4Gig HD (formatted with Win98 format.com) with FreeDos installed as the operating system. But since the freedos disk utilities don't all support FAT32 I was wondering if it was possible to add the Windows 98SE DOS OS (from Windows\Command) and the appropriate system file to produce a dual boot PC? Note I DON'T want to load Windows 98, just the MS-DOS 6.22 equivilants. Has anyone else done this and documented how to do it? Since Win95 came out I have had a minimum of one version of Win9X and one real DOS, and sometimes multiple versions or configurations of both, all on C:, and one or more versions of OS/2 on extended, and maybe a Linux thrown in. I just pick them off a single menu. Mostly I use System Commander. I also use OS Selector by Acronis. For very simple DOS/W9X, DRDOS has a loader that provides a two line menu for DOS and Win. Ray --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials Free Linux tutorial presented by Daniel Robbins, President and CEO of GenToo technologies. Learn everything from fundamentals to system administration.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1470alloc_id=3638op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Configuration files help
Thank you all. Below is a first cut to beat up on.
The box I am using for this has two floppies, a ZIP100, DVDROM\CDROM,
DVD W\CD W, two HDD; both plug in. All are functional under FD.
On the HDD that is plugged in for this exercise, C: drive currently
boots DRDOS 7, FreeDOS 5, MSDOS 6 and Win98SE. So, config.sys and
autoexec.bat have dedicated names for each OS.
Does FreeDOS not have emm386.exe or dpms.exe?
Under FreeDOS, mem.exe /D/E/F/U/X reports:
Largest executable program size 495K ( 506,384 bytes)
Under DRDOS--with a LOT more stuff loaded-- mem.exe /a reports:
Largest executable program size 622128 ( 608K )
Boot reports:
FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.33 (Build 2033) [Jan 31 2004}
FreeDOS version 0.82 pl 3 XMS_SWAP {Dec 10 2003}
::FreeDOS fdconfig.sys
DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE
DOS=HIGH,UMB
REM DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\atapicdd.sys /D:FDCD0001; doesn't work
DEVICE=C:\DRDOS\CNFG\oakcdrom.sys /D:FDCD0001
SHELL=C:\FDOS\BIN\COMMAND.COM /P=C:\fdauto.bat
BUFFERS=20
FILES=40
LASTDRIVE=Z
::FreeDOS fdauto.bat
pause
@echo off
REM Shsucdx /D:?FDCD0001 /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003; doesn't work
C:\DRDOS\CNFG\nwcdex.exe /D:FDCD0001
C:\FDOS\BIN\ctmouse.exe
PATH=C:\;C:\FDOS;C:\FDOS\BIN;
LH D:\FILEMGR\NC\nc.exe
mem.exe /D/E/F/U/X
Address AttrName Program
--- -- -- --
00CF:00488004 NUL
03A6:C800 FDCD0001
0321:8000 XMS0
0070:04B08013 CON
0070:04C2A040 PRN
0070:04D48000 AUX
0070:04E6A040 LPT1
0070:04F8A040 LPT2
0070:050AA040 LPT3
0070:051C8000 COM1
0070:052E8000 COM2
0070:05408000 COM3
0070:05528000 COM4
0070:05648008 CLOCK$
0070:057608C2 A: - F:
EMS driver not installed in system.
Segment Size Name Type
--- -- -
031244192 DOS system data
0DDD 96 free
0DE4 2928 COMMAND program
0E9C 128 NWCDEX |environment
0EA562256 NWCDEX |program
1DD9 128 free
1DE2 3312
1EB2 160 NC environment
1EBD13152 NC program
21F4 160 free
21FF 2928 COMMAND program
22B7 506384 free
9E59 320 COMMAND environment
9E6E 272 COMMAND environment
Segment Size Name Type
--- -- -
031244192 DOS system data
0DDD 96 free
0DE4 2928 COMMAND program
0EA562256 NWCDEX |program
1DD9 128 free
1EBD13152 NC program
21F4 160 free
21FF 2928 COMMAND program
22B7 506384 free
Testing XMS memory ...
XMS version 3.00 XMS driver version3.10
HMA state existsA20 line stateenabled
Free XMS memory 266946560 bytes
Largest free XMS block266946560 bytes
Free handles 29
Block Handle Size Locks
--- ---
0 17781546240
1 17881546240
Upper memory not available
Memory TypeTotalUsedFree
-
Conventional 634K139K495K
Extended (XMS)261,056K366K260,690K
-
Largest executable program size 495K ( 506,384 bytes)
FreeDOS is resident in the high memory area.
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Re: [Freedos-user] Re: Configuration files help
Eric Auer wrote: DRDOS 7, FreeDOS 5, MSDOS 6 and Win98SE. Correction, it is MSDOS 7.10. I think I do have 6 also, but I have never used it. Interesting collection. Let me know if you have time for some comparisons / benchmarks / ... ;). Yes, if I get FREEDOS tuned, and you suggest what to run for a test. Ray --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by BEA Weblogic Workshop FREE Java Enterprise J2EE developer tools! Get your free copy of BEA WebLogic Workshop 8.1 today. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=5047alloc_id=10808op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FDOS boot
Can someone give me some help with the boot files? I have been using DRDOS since V 6, but FDOS is new to me. The machine is an AMD 2200, single HDD, 100M Zip, CD-RW, CD-DVD-RW. DRDOS is also on C:. W98SE will be. OS selection is done by Acronis OS Selector. I have a similar setup - with an older version of FDOS - on another machine. I have a fresh installation of the version below. The current config.sys and autoexec.bat files are below that. They are basically as-installed except for adding a couple utilities and attempting to use some drivers from http://johnson.tmfc.net/freedos/frame.html The usage for those drivers was clipped from the readmes, without much real understanding on my part. In their current form: Boot option 2 - EMX386 - stops while trying to load XDMA. ATAPICDD loads the CD but not the DVD. XCDROM - if it's line is selected - loads nothing. TY Ray ** C:\ver /r FreeCom version 0.82 pl 3 XMS_Swap [Dec 10 2003 06:49:21] DOS version 7.10 FreeDOS kernel version 1.1.34 ** !SET dosdir=C:\FDOS !SET lang=EN ;for help on commands, see file config.sys in your FreeDOS directory ;www.benq.com/ss_download/drivers/storage/cd-rom/drivers/dos/apicd214.exe ;below is a demonstration of the FreeDOS multi-configuration menu system. !LASTDRIVE=Z !BUFFERS=20 !FILES=40 !DOS=HIGH,UMB !DOSDATA=UMB !set dircmd=/ogn !MENUCOLOR=7,0 MENUDEFAULT=1,5 MENU 1 - Load FreeDOS including HIMEM XMS-memory driver MENU 2 - Load FreeDOS with maximum RAM free, using EMM386 MENU 3 - Load FreeDOS without drivers 12?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\HIMEM.EXE 2?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\BIN\EMM386.EXE NOEMS I=B000-B7FF I=DC00-EBFF I=C800-C8FF 1?DEVICE=C:\FDOS\bin\atapicdd.sys /D:FDCD0001 ;12?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BOOT\XCDROM.SYS /D:FDCD0001 /SM /SS 12?SHELLHIGH=C:\FDOS\BOOT\command.com /K C:\autofd.bat 12?DEVICEHIGH=C:\FDOS\BOOT\XDMA.SYS /O 3?SHELLHIGH=c:\command.com /D /K set path=C:\FDOS\bin ** @echo off set PATH=%dosdir%\bin set NLSDIR=%dosdir%\NLS set temp=%dosdir%\temp set tmp=%dosdir%\temp SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 H5 P330 REM LH DISPLAY CON=(EGA,,1) REM MODE CON CP PREP=((858) %dosdir%\cpi\EGA.CPI) REM MODE CON CP SEL=858 REM Shsucdx /D:?FDCD0001 /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 C:\FDOS\BOOT\shcdx33a.com /D:?FDCD0001 /D:?FDCD0002 /D:?FDCD0003 C:\FDOS\BOOT\mouse.exe lh C:\UTILITY\snipper.com lh C:\FILEMGR\NC\nc.exe *** --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] re: FDOS boot
Johnson Lam wrote: On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:46:55 -0800, you wrote: Hi Ray, What about the CD\DVD issue? You got any problem? XCDROM does not see the second drive. OAKCDROM and VIDE-CDD do see it. And what about the use and configuration of the drivers at http://johnson.tmfc.net/freedos/frame.html Sorry but don't understand ... You mean XDMA/XCDROM? They have detailed examples in README.TXT. I was not very good at determining what switches to use. Ray --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] re: FDOS boot
Florian Xaver wrote: You got any problem? XCDROM does not see the second drive. OAKCDROM and VIDE-CDD do see it. I have 2, and the driver found them (look at the config.sys). DEVICE=duse.exe MEM=190 SEC=2048 DRIVES=1 NOCD EMU What is DUSE ? DEVICE=xcdrom.sys /D:FDCD001 I tried DEVICE rather than DEVICEHIGH, still only one drive. Ray --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install CD won't
I have a CD made from the ISO. The readme identifies it as: b9 #2 30 Nov 2005. During install the kernel version is 0.0.35. Is this the most recent? It gets to Uncompressing and loading UPXed CPI (CPX). And then Invalid Opcode... Anyone understand this? Ray --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Multiple CD\DVD drives
What drivers are available that will handle multiple CD\DVD drives and what switches are appropriate? I am currently using Oak and Shcdx because Oak is the only one I have been able to get to see more than one drive. TY Ray --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] why make partitions hidden?
Lester Vedrox wrote: AB Repartition disk (by FDISK or somethink like Partition Magic). EA Use a GOOD partition editor (not MS FDISK... preferrably something with a reasonable user interface and something which you are good at using. James, you should probably consider investing in partitioning software: PartitionMagic: http://www.partitionmagic.com/home_homeoffice/products/system_performance/pm80/index.html Partition Commander: http://www.v-com.com/product/Partition_Commander_Home.html Acronis Disk Director Suite: http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/diskdirector/ PartitionMagic used to be a leader in this field but it's dominance has been challenged lately by competitors. Partition Commander, for instance, allows converting NTFS partitions back to FAT, the feature that was absent in PartitionMagic. Acronis Disk Director Suite seems to have the best choice of features of all three products, but I have never tried it so can't comment on it. Lester I have been collecting partition tools since about 1990. I have several versions of Partition Magic and recent versions of the other two above. My weapon of choice is Partition Magic. It works fine on the current XP. On my laptop I used it to shrink the default full drive, single partition down to 10G and add several other types. It is also my backup system. I copy the boot partitions to another HDD. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't WfW a different operating system with it's own bootsector and startup files? You've then got the HIMEM, EMM386 and IFSHLP to worry about. Isn't it a bit like saying why can't I start OS/2 from within CP/M? No, it is just a shell. I don't use it any more but I still have the batch file to run it. In one of my older machines it was run from autoexec.bat. The line is still there but remed. Ray Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.0 in the news...
Gerry Hickman wrote: OK, let's agree it's just a shell for a minute; why would anyone want to start it from within FreeDOS? First, do you actually except that you cannot boot any Win 3x, including 3.11. You have to boot something else first and then run Win 3x as an app. People who were serious about Win 3x put a line at the end of autoexec.bat to run Windows (Win). For Win 9x MS essentially did that for us. People have pulled the shell off of Win 9x. And, as I recall, they ran it on DRDOS. Don't quote me on that, it was a long time ago. I ran Win 3.0 and later 3.11 for WG. I skipped MSDOS 4 and bought MSDOS 5 when it came out. Three months later DRDOS 6 came out with interactive configuration files, I bought that and it has been the only DOS I have used until recently when I have tried FreeDOS. So, I have never run W3x on anything but DRDOS. I assume it would run on FR. I stopped using W3x when I got OS/2, which has W3x support. In my view, it's a total mismatch. FreeDOS doesn't pretend to be a prot-mode o/s DRDOS has DPMI. I assume FD could if it doesn't. For what this is worth, I am able to get FreeDOS with the Q stuff to run on newer MBs - AMD 64 -that fail with DRDOS. They don't like EMM386; DR or FD. I have tried some hybrids - DR plus Q - with limited success. and anyway it runs much better in real mode at the moment. If it's going to a 32/64 bit prot-mode o/s then really it's time to forget the whole legacy thing and just create a next generation 64bit command line o/s that supports endless memory, multi-processors, multi-tasking, firmware BIOS, native SCSI, NTFS, NFS, KERBEROS and SMB signing. 64 bit is a bit of a jump, but if you will settle for 32 bit - for now - I think we did most of that, it's called OS/2, now marketed as eCommStation. You have your choice of Cmd line or GUI interface. Ray Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] UNRAR
My questions are general but were prompted by _d32.rar. Why the underline at the front on the name? Can you point me to an unrar utility that will work with DOS or OS\2. I have tried several and gotten nowhere. I can see the directory but cannot read or extract any of it. TY Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install fail
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late model machines. Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP. Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response. How can I determine what did not get installed because of this? Is there a way to do an incremental install, that is, jump to a particular install page? Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Install fail
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late model machines. Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP. Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response. How can I determine what did not get installed because of this? Is there a way to do an incremental install, that is, jump to a particular install page? The HDD does boot in that machine. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Install fail
Eric Auer wrote:
Then it tried to download further updates but failed to
communicate with your ADSL router or similar device.
Could it have reasonably been expected to succeed?
If so, how to make it work.
How can I determine what did not get installed because of this?
I think the whole install process did not finalize that way...
It does boot.
I cannot find a list of features and addon packages. Are some on the CD
and some downloaded?
Is there a file manager on the CD? I am using NC.
Below is another machine that has had problems with DOS. It is
out-of-the-box except I added LH NC. Does it look normal?
Modules using memory below 1 MB:
Name Total Conventional Upper Memory
SYSTEM 25,568 (25K) 11,008 (11K) 14,560 (14K)
HIMEM2,704(3K) 2,704(3K) 0(0K)
EMM386 3,632(4K) 3,632(4K) 0(0K)
LBACACHE20,464 (20K)336(0K) 20,128 (20K)
COMMAND 4,064(4K) 3,024(3K) 1,040(1K)
RTSPKT 26,160 (26K) 26,160 (26K) 0(0K)
COMMAND 3,552(3K) 3,024(3K)528(1K)
XCDROM 2,320(2K) 0(0K) 2,320(2K)
CDRCACHE13,072 (13K) 0(0K) 13,072 (13K)
MORESYS544(1K) 0(0K)544(1K)
FDAPM 928(1K) 0(0K)928(1K)
SHSUCDX 8,416(8K) 0(0K) 8,416(8K)
NC 13,520 (13K) 0(0K) 13,520 (13K)
MOUSE3,328(3K) 0(0K) 3,328(3K)
Free 652,800 (638K)604,160 (590K) 48,640 (48K)
Memory TypeTotal Used Free
Conventional 639K49K 590K
Upper 124K76K48K
Reserved 261K 261K 0K
Extended (XMS) 1,014,528K31,941K 982,587K
Total memory 1,015,552K32,327K 983,225K
Total under 1 MB 763K 125K 638K
Largest executable program size 590K (603,808 bytes)
Largest free upper memory block43K ( 43,888 bytes)
FreeDOS is resident in the high memory area.
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[Freedos-user] SYS.COM
I have 1.0 CD and boot floppy. I cannot find a SYS.COM. I found the DOCs for it on the CD. Where is the file? TY Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] OS selectors
Is anyone current on what is available for operating system selection? For years I used VCom System Commander, up to SC 2000. When that had trouble with OS/2 on some hardware I went to Acronis OS selector V5. I now have 8, 9 and 10. They do not seem to understand booting a partition that is above 1024. The OS I need\want are DOS, Win and OS/2. My setup for years has been; FAT16 C: as the only primary, holding DOS and W9X, and the rest extended. When things were changing C: had multiple versions of each. It now has FreeDOS and W98SE. The rest of the HDD is a single extended. For Win I have moved to W2K. I keep W98SE as a maintenance installation, mostly to fix FAT32 partitions. I use FAT32 partitions to share apps and data between the three OSs. I have OS/2 Warp4 on a FAT16. My challenge is that the current version of OS/2; eCommStation (eCS) wants to use HPFS, which neither DOS nor Win can access and DOS cannot even see. The only way I have found to have DOS and the other OSs see the same drive letters is to put all HPFS after all FAT, and that puts eCS above 1024. And that leaves me needing an OS selector that understands 1024\interrupt 13. Or, someone could add HPFS support to the FreeDOS kernel. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
FreeDOS 1.0 CD Page says; Wattcp.cfg Setup Menu It hangs at: Configuring through DHCP... I would skip this section if I knew how. Ideas? Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Ray Davison wrote: FreeDOS 1.0 CD Also, the make boot floppy item, didn't. It just took a readable disk and made it unreadable. The disk was in A:, and it complained that it couldn't read old info off B: Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.0 CD install hang
Eric Auer wrote: This happens because you selected a package which tries to use the internet to download further files. TY. If install is unable to create an Internet connection, why does it try to use one? The machine was physically connected to the router at the time. The install seems to be subdivided by functional area, and that is good. But, is there any way to skip an entire page without unchecking each individual item? A description of the page as a whole and a skip-page choice would be good. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Partition layout
I have always had a single primary C for DOS and W9X, and everything else extended. W2K then puts it's boot files on C. That can cause problems trying to restore the W2K partition from backup. So I created the drive below. I am sure it will wrap. Sorry. The labels include the drive letters, if they boot to their physical position. And that is the challenge. Booting FreeDOS 1.0, the W2K-D primary picks up the letter after any extended partitions. With DRDOS 7.01 Fat32, they hold their physical position. Ideas? Ray +---+--+-+--+++---+--++ |ID |Dr|Type, description|ux|Format |Related |VolumeLabel| BM-Name |Size MiB| +---+--disk 1---/dev/hda++---Disk1 - 76+ |01 | |Prim 0a IBM-BMGR | 1|BMGR|LVM |I13X-aware |BM:-- LVM| 7.8| |02| |Prim 06 FAT16| 2|FAT16 |FRDOS4.1|DOS-C | | 1004.0| |03 | |Prim 0b FAT32| 3|FAT32 |MSWIN4.1|W2K-D | | 4000.5| |04 | |Log 06 FAT16| 5|FAT16 |MSWIN4.0|WARP4-E| | 1004.0| |05 | |FreeSpace Logical| |-- -- --|-- -- --|- - - - - -| | 70300.0| +---+--+-+--+++---+--++ = Active/Startable * = Bootable r = Removable R = Removable+Active/Bootable - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Partition layout
Eric Auer wrote: Hi, maybe it is useful to try SYS CONFIG to switch the DLASORT option to 0 or 1. Please read the docs, to be more exact, the config.txt file :-) Probably still does not behave as DR DOS, but I do remember that DLASORT is there because some people were not happy with the behave as MS DOS default ;-). A search for DLASORT*.* failed to find anything on the CD or HDD. I also do not find dlasort in config.txt. This option is for specifying whether Drive Letter Assignment should follow the normal MSDOS way of all primary partitions across drives and then extended partitions, or the more logical all partitions (primary extended) on the 1st drive, then repeat for all following drives (all primary extended, then try next drive). 0 corresponds to MS way and 1 corresponds to first drive completely, then next ... Do you understand, C is stable. On this drive D and E get swapped. If I plug in the second HDD - which is a single extended - D is after that. So, I have first primary; C, then all extended, then second primary; D - ignoring the primaries that are Boot Manager and the extended shells. And Boot Manager is inert, C is active. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Partition layout
Eric Auer wrote: Oops sorry I mean sys.txt, not config.txt ... OK. There is also SYS.EN. The only SYS I know about is SYS.COM. I have been trying; C:\FDOS\BIN\sys.com dlasort=X Is this correct, and if so where do I put it? So far all I have gotten is a SYS help screen. Do you understand, C is stable. On this drive D and E get swapped. If I plug in the second HDD - which is a single extended - D is after that. This is exactly what DLASORT is about - MS DOS style is the default, which does all primary partitions first, but you can also use the other setting, which is all partitions on the first HDD first :-) But it is NOT putting all primaries first. It is putting the second after all extendeds. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] CAD locks system
FreeDOS 1.0 CAD locks the system, but does not reboot. It does it every time. Once I got a illegal something The rest had no indication on screen. Is this to be expected? TY Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] CAD locks system
Eric Auer wrote: Yes, known bug of that version of emm386. You either have to use the altboot option of emm386 or update it to jemm386 from japheth.de which you should probably do anyways JEMM386 says it needs XMM. I did nothing but sub JEMM386 for EMM386. Seems Ok; slightly more free memory and CAD is OK. JEMMEX doesn't see to run. Everything loaded low. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. Download your FREE copy of Splunk now http://get.splunk.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Chkdsk
Norton Disk Doctor from W2K says C: is OK. FreeDOS chkdsk c: produces a 40K file. All entries are: file has an invalid size. The only chkdsk bug I find is 1954. The problem stated in 1954 does not appear here. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Chkdsk
The file I had was: 3 July 06 35380 File produced: 40290 The new file is: 3 July 06 92376 File produced: 40382 Same complaints. Here is a sample. \KERNEL.SYS has an invalid size, the size should be about 4294901760, but the entry says it's 45341 Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Chkdsk
Ray Davison wrote: The file I had was: 3 July 06 35380 File produced: 40290 The new file is: 3 July 06 92376 File produced: 40382 Same complaints. Here is a sample. \KERNEL.SYS has an invalid size, the size should be about 4294901760, but the entry says it's 45341 Both versions work OK on A: The second also works on D: Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Chkdsk
Ray Davison wrote: chkdsk beta 0.9.1 works on A, C and D - the only FAT16 on this machine. Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] LFN
Robert Riebisch wrote: Ray Davison wrote: Boot screen says: DOSLFN 0.40c Kernel is 20 Sept 07 Neither NC or VC 4.05 or DIR display LFNs. Don't know about NC, but only VC 4.99.08 supports LFN. You can also try http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/dn/index.php?phrase_id=642999 or No on VC 4.99.08a or DN Ray - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dual boot part 5.
If you want to boot multiple OSs you should get real boot manager. For years I ran System Commander. A couple years ago that started having problems with OS/2 on some mother boards. Since then I have been using Acronis OS Selector. It will run as many versions of DOS and W9X on a single C primary as you have space for. During a transition period I had DRDOS, FREEDOS, MSDOS and two versions of W9X. I did a similar thing with System Commander. I also have Acronis Disk Director which has a boot manager as well as a partitioning tool. It will also run multiple versions of Win32 from a single extended. I have never needed more than one real primary. None of these things cost much and they put you in control. DRDOS has a boot selector that will select it or one version of W9X. I am surprised if FREEDOS doesn't have such a thing. Ray - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FDISK Format
J wrote: Any data recovery programs recommended or that I should avoid (i.e. might make the situation worse)? The first place I would post such a question is here: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DFSee can do some amazing things with partition tables and contents. And the author is there to help, including personal help in the form of custom scripts. And since the CD boots FreeDOS he has some understanding of that. I think everyone who works with drives should have this. And it is try-before-buy. Ray -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SATA optical
Ray Davison wrote: I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical. Is this to be expected? There is a PATA optical that is OK. Ray -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] LFN
Blair Campbell wrote: extract doslfn.com (or exe) and the .cp? I can't remember the extention but there's a few codepage tables afair that the extension begins with .cp How about cp*.tbl? Those need to go in the bin directory. I assume you mean C:\FDOS\BIN Then lh doslfn should do fine. That gets me: DOSLFN 0.40e ( haft): enabled. Last error: 43 - Was that to be expected? I don't see any change in LFN access. Ray -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can't find command.com
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the available memory start out differently. There is small difference in total RAM size, but by then doesn't DOS not care? SYSTEM 17,344 (17K) 10,992 (11K) 6,352(6K) HIMEM2,704(3K) 2,704(3K) 0(0K) COMMAND 3,648(4K) 3,024(3K)624(1K) ... LBACACHE20,432 (20K) 0(0K) 20,432 (20K) ... Conventional 611K17K 594K Upper 152K87K65K That is a very small total RAM (611k) Either you load some driver before DOS (e.g. LBA helper for big HDD on old BIOS) I posted the info on the MBs. Would you consider either of them old? or you have a virus loaded before DOS or you have a driver or virus inside DOS which allocates RAM by reducing the total. How would I chase that? Same HDD, different MB: SYSTEM 17,328 (17K) 10,992 (11K) 6,336(6K) HIMEM2,704(3K) 2,704(3K) 0(0K) LBACACHE20,464 (20K)336(0K) 20,128 (20K) COMMAND 4,064(4K) 3,024(3K) 1,040(1K) ... In this version, LBACACHE uses TUNS, but the stack is small. I assume this is not the current version of LBACACHE yet ;-) No. As I said that was back in Feb 2008. Conventional 639K37K 602K Upper 88K87K 1K Note that this other (newer) No, that is the older, that I am calling previous. mainboard leaves less space for DOS upper memory. On the other hand, 639k total is a very normal value: It typically means 640k minus 1k for extra BIOS data area. Extra as opposed to 40:xx (0.25k). -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] DOS UnRAR?
Is there a DOS UNRAR somewhere I can get at? Every link I try, even tho it says DOS, takes me off into WinLand. This one looked hopeful, it mentioned FreeDOS, but is dead. http://www.bttr-software.de/misc/urar377d.zip. Ray -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can't find command.com
Ray Davison wrote: Eric Auer wrote: Try if updating LBACACHE helps: www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/lbacache/2008/ Lbacache.com 6 Apr 2008; no apparent change if still without TUNS. Same lbcache, no TUNS, when I try to copy certain files I get: LBACACHE flush: write error.0180/CHS#3c3c Ray -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] SATA optical
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical. Is this to be expected? I assume you try using SHSUCDX for SATA CD or DVD drives? No problem for SHSUCDX (which creates a drive letter from the raw data) but your low level driver (to access raw data) must support SATA. One typical example would be GCDROM: www.freedos.org/cgi-bin/lsm.cgi?mode=lsmlsm=base/gcdrom.lsm The UDMA-speed SATA/IDE harddisk/cdrom driver UIDE will probably support SATA CD/DVD as well. Note that you do not normally need harddisk drivers in DOS, it only helps with speed in cases where the BIOS does not make good use of UDMA speeds. QCDROM picked up only the SATA, and only if it was loaded first. And I still needed XCDROM for the PATA. And I never got SHSUCDX to pick them up. UIDE seems to work. It loads 7104, all upper. And both drives read. Ray -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Can't find command.com
Any more thoughts on this? Ray Ray Davison wrote: Eric Auer wrote: Hi! I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the available memory start out differently. There is small difference in total RAM size, but by then doesn't DOS not care? SYSTEM 17,344 (17K) 10,992 (11K) 6,352(6K) HIMEM2,704(3K) 2,704(3K) 0(0K) COMMAND 3,648(4K) 3,024(3K)624(1K) ... LBACACHE20,432 (20K) 0(0K) 20,432 (20K) ... Conventional 611K17K 594K Upper 152K87K65K That is a very small total RAM (611k) Either you load some driver before DOS (e.g. LBA helper for big HDD on old BIOS) I posted the info on the MBs. Would you consider either of them old? or you have a virus loaded before DOS or you have a driver or virus inside DOS which allocates RAM by reducing the total. How would I chase that? Same HDD, different MB: SYSTEM 17,328 (17K) 10,992 (11K) 6,336(6K) HIMEM2,704(3K) 2,704(3K) 0(0K) LBACACHE20,464 (20K)336(0K) 20,128 (20K) COMMAND 4,064(4K) 3,024(3K) 1,040(1K) ... In this version, LBACACHE uses TUNS, but the stack is small. I assume this is not the current version of LBACACHE yet ;-) No. As I said that was back in Feb 2008. Conventional 639K37K 602K Upper 88K87K 1K Note that this other (newer) No, that is the older, that I am calling previous. mainboard leaves less space for DOS upper memory. On the other hand, 639k total is a very normal value: It typically means 640k minus 1k for extra BIOS data area. Extra as opposed to 40:xx (0.25k). -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- SF.Net email is Sponsored by MIX09, March 18-20, 2009 in Las Vegas, Nevada. The future of the web can't happen without you. Join us at MIX09 to help pave the way to the Next Web now. Learn more and register at http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;208669438;13503038;i?http://2009.visitmix.com/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poll and ideas compressed filesystem
Eric Auer wrote: Ages ago there where some discussions about DOSzilla (Mozilla Firefox for DOS) but the project was never released and is dead. Firefox for DOS would be a killer application, pretty cool. I remember the suggestion coming in from time to time but I also remember the insane dependencies firefox needs... You may have overlooked one dependency, not of the functional type you listed but an add-on necessary for a browser to be usable today: Flash. My browser of choice is Mozilla's Seamonkey suite running under eComStation (OS/2). It shares a profile and all the data files with the Win version so when I need to boot Win I have all the same bookmarks, history, mail etc. I am not comfortable allowing Win to connect to the WEB, but I am increasingly having to boot Win because the OS/2 Flash is still version 5. Adobe has apparently recently allowed the current version to be ported but time and money to do that is scarce. So while I would like to see a real browser under DOS, if it doesn't include the current Flash it would be crippled, and maybe not worth the bother. Ray -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Poll and ideas compressed filesystem
Travis Siegel wrote: there's very little that I can't access due to lack of flash support. Keep looking. It is getting to be more all the time. And it is content, not just adds. And some sites that worked fine with version 5 apparently had nothing better to do and upgraded to later versions. Ray -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Purpose of dos...
Is no one else running DOS on late model machines to do actual work. My primary machines now are Pentium D. With a mix of PATA and SATA. I have rather recent suites from Corel and M$. But my word processor of choice is still WP 6.2a DOS. My accounts payable program was written in 1995. Once in a while I do a serious search for a new program, and then stick with what I have. I have had a UPS driver with a COD, and I have booted DOS and printed a check, and the driver did not feel I unnecessarily delayed him. Try that with a GUI. I also have a material requirements planning program that can still keep up. I actually think chasing numbers and letters around the screen with a mouse is not very efficient. I also have a printed circuit layout program. And I have to work real hard to crash DOS. Ray -- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SourcForge Community SourceForge wants to tell your story. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sf-spreadtheword ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Cannot find CD
I just got a replacement laptop. I have a 1.0 CD and a 1G, USB, thumb drive that brings up what looks like the same menu as the CD. Both try to load XCDROM and report No CD-ROM to use. Of course the CD had to use the CD drive to get to that point. Any idea what is going on? Ray -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cannot find CD
Eric Auer wrote: Drivers like gcdrom alone only give low-level CD/DVD, no ISO9660. The CD/DVD is SATA. Since I didn't find xgcdrom I tried gcdrom. Seems to work. What benefit would I see with xgcdrom? Ray -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Cannot find CD
Eric Auer wrote: Hi! Drivers like gcdrom alone only give low-level CD/DVD, no ISO9660. So apparently the ISO9660 file system is becoming common and older drivers won't work, true? Xgcdrom is xcdrom (ATAPI) and gcdrom (S-ATA) combined into one driver, so you can use both types of CD/DVD drives without having to decide which driver you want to install. So where do I find it xgcdrom? Ray -- Open Source Business Conference (OSBC), March 24-25, 2009, San Francisco, CA -OSBC tackles the biggest issue in open source: Open Sourcing the Enterprise -Strategies to boost innovation and cut costs with open source participation -Receive a $600 discount off the registration fee with the source code: SFAD http://p.sf.net/sfu/XcvMzF8H ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos on usb
ramin wrote: Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb. I have two thumb drives that I cloned from a boot floppy with the HP utility. On my laptop - which has no A: - they both work, but one boots as A: and the other as C:. I am going to keep the A:. Ray -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Builder(TM) are powering Web 2.0 with engaging, cross-platform capabilities. Quickly and easily build your RIAs with Flex Builder, the Eclipse(TM)based development software that enables intelligent coding and step-through debugging. Download the free 60 day trial. http://p.sf.net/sfu/www-adobe-com ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] IHPFS
IHPFS.EXE seems to work. It has a provision for selecting drive letter. However, the HPFS partition is located amongst FAT 1632 partitions whose drive letters are assigned during config.sys load. Can I load it in config.sys or somehow reserve/assign the drive letter that represents the place in the physical order? Ray -- OpenSolaris 2009.06 is a cutting edge operating system for enterprises looking to deploy the next generation of Solaris that includes the latest innovations from Sun and the OpenSource community. Download a copy and enjoy capabilities such as Networking, Storage and Virtualization. Go to: http://p.sf.net/sfu/opensolaris-get ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] New kernel install floppy won't boot
The boot process identifies all the HDD partitions then: Incorrect DOS version Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256 Enter . Suggestions? Ray -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New kernel install floppy won't boot
Ray Davison wrote: The boot process identifies all the HDD partitions then: Incorrect DOS version Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256 Enter . The floppy had a 2003 Command.com. The bat went looking for a copy of command.com on the HDD and that is what it found. It didn't even look on C:. Seems like it would need to ship with the kernel. It works with the 08-28-06 command.com. Ray -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] New kernel install floppy won't boot
Bernd Blaauw wrote: How was the bootdisk created? The included bat. See my previous post where I described the fix. Ray -- Crystal Reports - New Free Runtime and 30 Day Trial Check out the new simplified licensing option that enables unlimited royalty-free distribution of the report engine for externally facing server and web deployment. http://p.sf.net/sfu/businessobjects ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Fwd: Announcement: New DOS USB Drivers
Alain Mouette wrote: Tom Ehlert escreveu: unlikely. while O/UHCI is certainly fast enough for keyboards/mice/printers(?), noone want to have different USB ports in he same computer Ok plug your USB stick/external disk/DVD-ROM into an OHCI/UHCI port, and you will be VERY dissatisfied with transfer rates. Re-phrasing: all I have seen hav EHCI, but over randomly U/OHCI. Do you agree with this? Is this is what you mean by multiple versions of USB? This is typical of every machine I am currently running. http://picasaweb.google.com/raydav94/ScreenShots#5354425912188006754 Ray -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] OSO001.MSG
I just defraged C:, and now executing attrib - with or without parameters - yields; SYS0318: Message file OSO001.MSG cannot be found for message . Why? Ray -- Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 30-Day trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and focus on what you do best, core application coding. Discover what's new with Crystal Reports now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bobj-july ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dualboot systems
Felix Miata wrote: As long as some type of boot manager is employed to choose among installed operating systems, both DOS and Linux are totally competent to coexist on one computer system. Hi Felix: The only time I ever got Linux to install on a drive that already had an OS, it only installed when I gave it a primary partition. And that is definitely not my first choice. I have been running Dos, Win and OS/2 together since W95. At first I had DOS and Win95 on primary, FAT16, C: and everything else on logicals. W2K was too big for that so I put it on a logical after whatever versions of OS/2 I had. Even tho modern OS/2 may not need to be under 1024 I still keep them up front. Typically, W4 and eCS each at 800M. And DOS is now the only OS on C:, the only primary. All my desktops have either W2K or WXP on a logical. My laptop has both. And none of my desktops have any LVM. All my HDDs are front panel plug-in and LVM makes it difficult to swap drives; they have to be mounted. With that as a starting point can I put Linux on a logical(s)? Ray -- Join us December 9, 2009 for the Red Hat Virtual Experience, a free event focused on virtualization and cloud computing. Attend in-depth sessions from your desk. Your couch. Anywhere. http://p.sf.net/sfu/redhat-sfdev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Network adapter.
Alain Mouette wrote: The RTL8139D is very nice. the only problem is that there has been some fakes around :( Alain Buzzer escreveu: Could anyone advice me best network adapter which are able to work under FreeDOS? 1) Intel 82559 PCI 2) RTL 8139 PCI I load a Realtek RTL8139 driver in OS/2. I have at least six 8139 cards from a couple vendors. The driver not only works with those but has worked with several later 8xxx chips on motherboards. I expect it to work as well with DOS, assuming this particular driver does work. Ray -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS on flatscreen
I recently swapped my wife's CRT for a used 20, IBM ThinkVision. The image is shifted up about an inch which puts a pull-down bar off-screen. Win and eCS (OS/2) are OK. Ideas? Ray -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on flatscreen
Ray Davison wrote: So far I have not found such a button, and Google is no help. OK, OK, so there is a button. And it even works. Thank you all Ray -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Print server
Is it possible to get DOS to use a print server such as this? http://tinyurl.com/ykf3raz TY Ray -- Download Intel#174; Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Unsubscribe erable 3...@yahoo.ca
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[Freedos-user] 4DOS internal stack overflow
I got that message running: 4DOS ATTRIB /A:-A -H -R -S /D /S *.* on a 14G FAT32 partition about 66% full. It was at the end of the screen display. I assume the operation terminated early. What does it imply? Ray -- Nokia and ATT present the 2010 Calling All Innovators-North America contest Create new apps games for the Nokia N8 for consumers in U.S. and Canada $10 million total in prizes - $4M cash, 500 devices, nearly $6M in marketing Develop with Nokia Qt SDK, Web Runtime, or Java and Publish to Ovi Store http://p.sf.net/sfu/nokia-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] CHKDSK on floppy
This is CHKDSK beta 0.9.1 If there is a sub-directory present on a floppy, CHKDSK report seems normal. If there is no sub-directory - whether or not there are files: Assertion failed: size, file bitfield.c, line 34 Abnormal program termination Is this to be expected? Ray -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] if not exist MD XXX
Is there such a batch command? Ray -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?
Karen Lewellen wrote: A question mainly for those who use dos alone and purely on your machines. I am asking how you do large backup work yourself now? say 3 gig or so? I have a couple suggestions for your consideration. First, anyone who is doing anything serious with a PC needs this: http://www.dfsee.com/ It works on DOS, OS/2, Win and Linux, and the CD boots FreeDOS. The most powerful thing it does is fix confused HDDs; like lost partition tables. And the author will help. It also does a bit-for-bit, drive-to-drive copy. This is a pic of my backup and storage box. https://picasaweb.google.com/110720715566253280768/ScreenShots#5620366853489847778 It is connected to a LAN, but it is also the ultimate sneaker net. All my HDDs, on every machine, are front panel plugin. Backup consists of; plug in the HDD you want to copy, plug in a blank HDD at least as large as what you want to copy, boot - the racks are hot swappable, the OSs are not - , run DFSee, select the partition(s) or drive to be copied, and go to lunch. Restore just reverses the process. Ray -- Get a FREE DOWNLOAD! and learn more about uberSVN rich system, user administration capabilities and model configuration. Take the hassle out of deploying and managing Subversion and the tools developers use with it. http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-d2d-2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] dos backups in the 21st century?
James Hahn wrote: Hello Ray, Thanks for sharing pictures of your setup. It's a real fascinating setup. Other than a duplicating machine, what function does it serve while connected to your network? It is primarily a storage box. In it's normal mode it has one boot/app drive, three storage drives, DVD, ZIP and two floppies one of which is also a memory card R/W. It is the primary repository of backup files and of still and video files which would clutter a work machine. The stacks of drives are other storage, backups of the primary storage drives, trial OS installations. Ray -- EMC VNX: the world's simplest storage, starting under $10K The only unified storage solution that offers unified management Up to 160% more powerful than alternatives and 25% more efficient. Guaranteed. http://p.sf.net/sfu/emc-vnx-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
Mark LaPierre wrote: Hey Y'all, Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? The DFSee boot CD runs FreeDOS. It can access thumb drives and USB connected HDDs. Dies that prove anything where you are concerned? Ray -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] hard drive question?
Karen Lewellen wrote: Hi folks, Asking for the person still doing that Dr dos 703 thing. What is the largest drive capacitor for the current edition of freedos? There has been much discussion regarding which DOS might do what on which machine. Actually determining which will actually work typically involves installing, trying, clean and install the next, repeat. But what is not apparently well known, is that you can install as many versions of DOS and W9X on a single C: as the partition will hold. That way you can easily bounce back and forth between versions. During a transition period I once had three DOS and two W9X. I have also had two W2K on a single logical partition. I am not sure about WXP. But you need a serious boot utility. At least one of the DOSs would install itself alongside one other already there. But for more than that I have used System Commander and Acronis. Ray -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] hard drive question?
Single Stage to Orbit wrote: On Sun, 2012-11-11 at 16:36 +0100, Bernd Blaauw wrote: I remember the old days of having 4 (primary? extended? logical?) FAT16 partitions of 2GB each, allowing up to 8GB total. I remember using 32MB partitions :-) My first HDD was 28M, and I created three partitions on it. 286, DOS 3.3. Ray -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Change dos gray-on-black default colour settings
sakura kinomoto wrote: Can anybody write customisable software, for selecting colors for dos? for example, yellow-on-blue or white-on-black, or (excellent) with changeable colour scheme? PRISM from 1990. Create color profiles. Call a different profile for each app. As I recall it cost me nothing at the time; PC Mag I think. So I can probably share it. Ray -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] if not exist?
Is there something like this in FD? IF NOT EXIST X:\ZZZ MD X:\ZZZ Everything in front of the MD is ignored, and there is an error if X:\ZZZ does exist. TY Ray -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] if not exist?
Eric Auer wrote: Yes of course: Type if /? to see how it should work. I wondered thru the batch area but did not try that. IF NOT EXIST X:\ZZZ\NUL MKDIR X:\ZZZ OK that works. TY Ray -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Load file sys driver in dconfig.sys?
Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys? I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a drive letter before the DVDs. What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7? TY Ray -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available. Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Load file sys driver in dconfig.sys?
Ray Davison wrote: Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys? I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a drive letter before the DVDs. What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7? Let me explain the actual task. I have FreeDOS and two each Win and OS/2. Two each because they both change and I don't get rid of one OS or app until I believe the new is ready to replace the old. I also maintain two copies of the GUI OSs for redundancy and maintenance. So the first HDD has five boot partitions. The first two partitions on the second HDD are apps and data. I have apps with data that I share between OS/2 and Win, and DOS apps with data that I run under all three OSs. Run objects point to apps and apps point to data. That means all OSs must at least see the same drive letters for the app and data partitions. Win lets me play with drive letters and I do. OS/2 has the option, but for me there is a trade off and I don't use the option, but don't really need it. I do have OS/2 and Win with NTFS and HPFS drivers to see each other. That leaves DOS. It is not so much that I need DOS to work with NTFS or HPFS, I just need to get drive letters assigned prior to the apps and data partitions. As for the DVDs. In OS/2 and Win I have them as XY. If there is a way to get FreeDOS to assign the same letters I would appreciate a cookbook. I have a NTFS4DOS.EXE dated 8June2004 size 93.819 but have not had time to try it. TY Ray -- Is your legacy SCM system holding you back? Join Perforce May 7 to find out: #149; 3 signs your SCM is hindering your productivity #149; Requirements for releasing software faster #149; Expert tips and advice for migrating your SCM now http://p.sf.net/sfu/perforce ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
dmccunney wrote: Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being activated. XP on FAT32? shudder Why the shudder? I have never run WXP on anything but FAT32. Currently it is on four machines in the office plus whatever is in the shop. It is a matter of cross-platform access; everything can use FAT32, share data, and perform maintenance. Ray -- Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free. http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.1 new install, no boot
Ray Davison wrote: Install to HDD; Reboot After boot from CD, blinking cursor at left margin I chose selection 1, copy DOS to MBR - or some such. Ray -- Slashdot TV. Video for Nerds. Stuff that matters. http://tv.slashdot.org/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] 1.1 new install, no boot
Rugxulo wrote: In other words, what specifically are you trying to do? What files do you need on there? What machines / environments are you trying to use? I use a floppy to boot a machine for maintenance and occasionally to run SYS from. All I need FreeDOS to put on there is KERNEL and COMMAND, I'll take it from there. Ray -- Want excitement? Manually upgrade your production database. When you want reliability, choose Perforce Perforce version control. Predictably reliable. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157508191iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Some app functions don't work
I have an accounting app from the early 90s. I first ran it under DRDOS and then FreeDOS for about a decade. I have looked at many other accounting apps but have not found anything that works better for me. The primary functions have always worked well. However, a couple years ago the archive function refused to do anything. I ran it under WXP and archive worked. Recently I needed to restore the data base from backup. That required a "Reprocess data". That did nothing. I ran it under WXP and the function worked. The first case was FreeDOS 1.0. The second is FreeDOS 1.1 "out-of-the-box", from the top line of the menu. Anything I should look at? Ray -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] Some app functions don't work
From: Ray Davison <ray...@charter.net> I have an accounting app from the early 90s. I first ran it under DRDOS and then FreeDOS for about a decade. I have looked at many other accounting apps but have not found anything that works better for me. The primary functions have always worked well. However, a couple years ago the archive function refused to do anything. I ran it under WXP and archive worked. Recently I needed to restore the data base from backup. That required a "Reprocess data". That did nothing. I ran it under WXP and the function worked. The first case was FreeDOS 1.0. The second is FreeDOS 1.1 "out-of-the-box", from the top line of the menu. Anything I should look at? Ray -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, SlashDot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (276:10/901) --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?
A small side trip about real work in real DOS. Since Win2K, my desktops have had a 2G, FAT16 primary at the front of the first HDD, carrying DOS and a boot manager, and two Win partitions, both logicals. Every other partition is a logical. Using that layout I am now running FreeDOS 1.1 and Win7-64 - and yes Win7-64 are on logicals. My DOS accounting program was abandoned by it's creator in 1995 and I am still using it. I have looked at many other accounting programs since then and have been unimpressed by most and appalled by some. A big thing I like about doing accounting under DOS is that I am not doing accounting in a window, my PC becomes an accounting machine. It takes the entire screen, the text is big and bold, and it is fast. And three years of data files fit on a floppy. And I am still using WordPerfect 6.2B for DOS. Similar to accounting, my PC becomes a word processor. I have kept rather current versions of MS Office, but use them mostly to work other peoples files. A couple decades ago, Bill Macrone of PC Magazine said if you want to multi task use multiple machines. If I want to access a bank on-line while doing accounting I have a Win laptop sitting at my elbow. So I am just hopping to keep the current stuff running. Ray -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] FreeDOS screen refresh in a VM
I've got an unusual issue that I've been trying to solve for several days but have had no luck. Running FreeDOS in a QEMU-based VM, on a Xen hypervisor (it's actually the Qubes OS) I managed to get it all installed and it runs well except for one problem: Screen refresh is too slow, even with simple graphical interfaces like Tandy Deskmate. After much research I am guessing that the VM is emulating some type of hardware that FreeDOS is not optimized for. And the system I am running the VM on does NOT allow me to change the hardware emulation easily. The frustrating thing is that I faced this exact same problem when I tried running Tandy Deskmate in a Linux VM under DOSBox. And then when I was poking around, the problem cleared up and screen refreshes were super fast! But for the life of me I have not been able to replicate this success on FreeDOS. I'd be open to any suggestions as I think I've tried every possible setting. Thank you! RL ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Package discussion
Jerome Shidel wrote: To create a custom CD for each user who downloads FreeDOS is not practical. Where in all this discussion did anyone suggest "a custom CD for each user"? In my scheme the system would only have two ISOs: the basic, and a TBD "extras". The user would create his own custom bit-by-bit as he decided to try something not included in the basic. He could DL the extras ISO, or get what he wanted from the archive as he wanted it. I predict that many would not go beyond the basic, and DL of extras would be spread out over time. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Package discussion
Jim Hall wrote: What do you think? I see two disks and an archive. My primary word processor and accounting programs are DOS. Yes I have "modern" versions for those functions, but I do not consider them to be improvements. It is extra work to chase stuff around a screen. So what you call "basic" would be one ISO. Then a blivet ISO of anything you want to put on it, but no sources or programming apps. Take a survey. How many want to make or modify DOS apps. Sources and whatever else is left is archive. With an index/contents included on both ISOs. TY Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] DOS software
I will keep DOS running primarily for accounting and word-processing, because none of the "modern" apps have given me reason to change. However, I have about fifteen linear feet of software and third party books that I may have used but mostly acquired because I thought it might be useful someday - including a two pound, still skin-packed, package to connect DOS to a 3270. I need the shelf space. Does this stuff have any use to anyone? Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
I also have my first seven PCs. They start at AT. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
Ray Davison wrote: I also have my first seven PCs. They start at AT. 28Meg, double height HDD. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
Karen Lewellen wrote: Oh and adapters for small devices like laptops, with software to configure them. I had a DOS LAN. The cards and disks are here, somewhere. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
What about Win 3 stuff? Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
I have four classic cars to redesign. The most effort I could put into the SW is a dozen close ups of the spines, and putting it in a box. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any Gui?
Joao Silva wrote: Hello. I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask with a lot of files. I disagree. You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees? A two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones. Move - on the same HDD, and I believe delete, don't actually move or delete files, it just rewrites the table, so it is instant. I am keeping accounting and word processing on DOS so I don't have to work with a GUI. It is fast, stable, and the files are smaller. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
I have posted pics of some stuff. The last pic is two trays of a couple hundred Software of the Month Club disks - mostly 5.25 and the last few are 3.5, freeware, category general interest. https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTdSyfEHbbdhKkxV7 Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] DOS software
Hi Eric: One of your pictures shows MagnaRAM: How did you like it, in Win3 / Win95 actually? I doubt that I ever installed it. Like I said, a lot of that stuff was acquired because it looked like it might be useful. Most I ever got around to playing with. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] num lock
Eric Auer wrote: Did you try to google for "freedos numlock"? ... duckduckgo does not find that page. Better get a barge pole, because DuckDuckNoGo won't find jack **t... To join that little off-topic: Is there ANY search engine remaining which RESPECTS my search keywords? This is at the top of Bing > "freedos numlock". And there are more FreeDOS hits. https://sourceforge.net/projects/active-caps-num-lock/ Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] BM cannot boot FD 1.2
I am maintaining several machines that do serious work on FD. For several years they have all had FD 1.1. I just installed 1.2, basic, over 1.1 on one machine. FD seemed to install OK, and took over booting the partition as expected. FD 1.2 seemed to load OK. I then reactivated the boot manger. This BM and many versions of DOS go way back. I now have a coincidence. The 1.2 kernel has been renamed and moved, and The boot manager cannot boot the partition. Is there actually a cause involved here? I have pointed the BM to both Kernlxx.sys, command.com, and fdconfig.sys. I get "Can't load operating system. Press to reboot..." Ideas? Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] BM cannot boot FD 1.2
Rugxulo wrote: The 1.2 kernel has been renamed and moved, I get "Can't load operating system. Press to reboot..." Presumably just rename the kernel to "KERNEL.SYS" first. But you may have to update the boot sector name, too (use SYS or maybe WDE). What about the KERNEL location in the tree? Prior to 1.2 it was in the root, now it is in FDOS\BIN. If I run SYS C: from a 1.1 Floppy, then copy 1.2 KRNEL386, as KERNEL, over the 1.1 KERNEL, should that leave me with the 1.2 kernel where it belongs on the drive? Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] BM cannot boot FD 1.2
Liam Proven wrote: This BM and many versions of DOS go way back. *What* boot manager? I have not seen you specify it. The only one I know of that name came with OS/2 and is about 25-30 years old, and TBH I would not expect it to work well on modern kit. Acronis OS Selector V 5.0 2001 (OSS). It is text based, I have it on a 2G, FAT16 at the front of the HDD that also holds DOS. That is the only primary, the rest of the drive is logical, including W7. OSS boots everything very well. I have the later version of OSS which is a GUI, it works, but I don't care for it. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote: Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit? You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the front of the drive. You just need a real boot manager. I did it with System Commander. All I did was a normal install of each OS. I did not need to fiddle with anything. SC did all that for me. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Dual Boot winth Windows 98
Ray Davison wrote: [GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote: Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit? You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the front of the drive. You just need a real boot manager. I did it with System Commander. All I did was a normal install of each OS. I did not need to fiddle with anything. SC did all that for me. And, when Win got it's own OS, I gave them their own partition, but there was/is only one primary: FAT 16 at the front. Every OS/2 and Win is on a logical, including W7. My desk tops all have two Win. two OS/2, and FreeDOS. My laptops have two W7. Ray ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
