Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

ne). And put the rest on a separate 360k, or even easier to just copy the installer (and all diskettes) to a subdir and run it from there. > > Regards, Eric > > PS: https://www.bttr-software.de/forum/forum_entry.php?id=16677 says > HWiNFO 6.1.1 for DOS is availab

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

Hi Jerome, > https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/news/2020/05/freedos-13-rc3-coming-soon--update-on-floppy-edition/ The page (by Jim and Aitor, it says) writes: > FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 coming soon + update on Floppy Edition > > Work on FreeDOS 1.3 has slowed since FreeDOS 1.3-RC2, but things are >

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3-RC3 News!

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Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos for IBM PCDOS 3.30 software

Hi Mattia, > I am a new user of the FreeDOS world, and I have a question. I would > like to install FreeDOS 1.2 on an old PC that we have at work because > we have to create a backup system for our 1987 IBM Personal System 2, > currently running IBM PCDOS 3.30 OEM. We still have this machine >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos for IBM PCDOS 3.30 software

On 4/27/2020 10:48 AM, Mattia Limonta wrote: Good evening. I am a new user of the FreeDOS world, and I have a question. I would like to install FreeDOS 1.2 on an old PC that we have at work because we have to create a backup system for our 1987 IBM Personal System 2, currently running IBM

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos for IBM PCDOS 3.30 software

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 1:49 PM Mattia Limonta wrote: > > Good evening. > > I am a new user of the FreeDOS world, and I have a question. I would like to > install FreeDOS 1.2 on an old PC that we have at work because we have to > create a backup system for our 1987 IBM Personal System 2,

[Freedos-user] Freedos for IBM PCDOS 3.30 software

Good evening. I am a new user of the FreeDOS world, and I have a question. I would like to install FreeDOS 1.2 on an old PC that we have at work because we have to create a backup system for our 1987 IBM Personal System 2, currently running IBM PCDOS 3.30 OEM. We still have this machine because

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

But thank you for this Information! ☺ Eric Von: Eric Auer Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 23:41 An: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips Hi Eric ;-) > Freedos runs pretty well on modern devices. But are there any > d

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

I allready have 2 virtual machines running MS DOS and FreeDOS Eric Von: Eric Auer Gesendet: Freitag, 27. März 2020 23:41 An: freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net Betreff: Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips Hi Eric ;-) > Freedos runs pretty well on modern devi

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

Hi Eric ;-) > Freedos runs pretty well on modern devices. But are there any > drivers for the generic realtek soundchips? I that is not the > case, is there a kind of soundcards wich can be used as well > under FreeDOS as under Windows 10? You probably refer to AC97 or HDA compatible sound

[Freedos-user] Freedos and Realtec soundchips

Hi, Freedos runs pritty well on modern devices. But are there any Drivers for the generic realtec soundchips? I that is not the case, is there a Kind of soundcards wich can be used as well under FreeDOS as under Windows 10? Eric ___ Freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

Hi, On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 4:03 PM Swap Jim via Freedos-user wrote: > > Tried it. Didn't change anything. But thanks for the suggestion. I don't think debug info is loaded into RAM at all. I'm not sure if even DJGPP does that either. So don't worry about that (much). I don't think "-O3" is

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos cost...

dos on the > planet that is the most compatible dos with everything dos that is worth > being compatible with. > > -- Michael C. Robinson > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedo

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi, On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 2:50 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > In FreeDOS, you have to load a LFN driver TSR to use it, but I think > most of command.com already is LFN-aware. IIRC, it depends on the version. Some people (you?) still stuck with older ("stable"?) 0.82pl3, which didn't support it. But

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi, On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 2:10 PM wrote: > > A revival of the open source implementation of the IPX protocol would be > awesome. > It would make a lot of old dos games work and an IPX/IP gateway could be > a Linux server where the Linux server could handle security (anti virus squid > proxy

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Just the subject line made me immediately think of one deficiency I met with FreeDOS 1.3rc2. Installation program needs to allow the user to see where the new FreeDOS will be installed to, and to give the user choice of where to install to. I had a scary experience installing FreeDOS 1.3rc2.

[Freedos-user] Freedos cost...

How are the repositories on ibiblio paid for? Freedos is free, and much of the programming work is done on a voluntary basis. Freedos is predominantly open source if not completely so. ReactOS is supported by a company that pays for the infrastructure to host the source code, a web site, some of

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

g list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Just the subject line made me immediately think of one deficiency I met with FreeDOS 1.3rc2. Installation program needs to allow the user to see where the new FreeDOS will be installed to, and to give the user choice of where to install to. I had a scary experience installing FreeDOS 1.3rc2.

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

one and can be found here >> http://mercurycoding.com/downloads/DOS/HIMEMX.zip. Hopefully I >> didn't >> miss anything! >> >> There is a version mismatch between the lsm (3.34) and the actual driver >> (3.35). >> Mateusz >> Freedos-user mailing

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

> I noticed that, but the driver itself reports it is 3.34. Basically > we have two 3.34 versions: one from 2015 and one from 2020. The new > 2020 version should have been bumped to 3.35, but it was kept at 3.34 > for some reason. Yay, clarity! lol > > It seems the 3.35 version mentioned in

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

I noticed that, but the driver itself reports it is 3.34. Basically we have two 3.34 versions: one from 2015 and one from 2020. The new 2020 version should have been bumped to 3.35, but it was kept at 3.34 for some reason. Yay, clarity! lol It seems the 3.35 version mentioned in readme.txt

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

On 23/03/2020 21:30, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user wrote: Also, the packaged version of HIMEMX is done and can be found here . Hopefully I didn't miss anything! There is a version mismatch between the lsm (3.34) and the actual driver

[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 on a zip disk...

I set up a bootable image of Freedos 1.3 on a zip 750mb disk! I did so by copying the FDOS directory without copying the packages directory. Interestingly, I have fdnpkg.exe on the zip disk. Of course fdnpkg.exe checkupdates doesn't work right if there is no packages directory. It would be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Thank you! This explains why my searching got me nowhere lol Also, the packaged version of HIMEMX is done and can be found [here](http://mercurycoding.com/downloads/DOS/HIMEMX.zip). Hopefully I didn't miss anything! Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi Michael, I see what a SMD pick and place machine does, yes :-) So basically there are two apps, one for DOS and one for Windows, and you would prefer them to run on some still supported DOS and Windows (or Wine). What are the issues with this at the moment? I do not expect you to have

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi Mercury, > Where would one find the most recent UHDD sources? They can be found in > ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/cdrom/uide/drivers-2019-03-31.zip which alas is a VERY generic name to google for... The zip contains: readme.txt, uhdd.asm and uhdd sys

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Q-Soft originally created by Tyco is a real time system targeted at MS-DOS and a GUI system targeted at Windows 98SE/Windows Millenium. PPM owns Q-Soft now and has a Windows 7 replacement and a completely reworked pick and place machine. If you know what surface mount electronics are you are

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi Michael, long mail ahead ;-) Please do not mix long file names and FAT32: The former can even be used on FAT12 floppy. In FreeDOS, you have to load a LFN driver TSR to use it, but I think most of command.com already is LFN-aware. You may have to set some shell options in your startup files

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Where would one find the most recent UHDD sources? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, March 23, 2020 2:33 PM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: > Hi Mercury, > >> "Creating packages for FreeDOS software that are not

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

lly is supported, so > that forked version was worse for various modern computers. > > Thank you :-) Eric > > _______ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Cool, thanks for the info! Not that I'm promising anything given my schedule, but maybe I'll be able to throw something together in my limited spare time. Shouldn't be too hard to get the others together since I already built HIMEMX from Japheth's new sources. Sent with

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi Mercury, > "Creating packages for FreeDOS software that are not packaged yet." > > ... any "top requests" as it were? If you ask me: UHDD (only UIDE and UDVD2 listed yet?) and the new HIMEMX version by Japheth, as discussed here recently :-) HIMEMX should get some tests in particular by

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Point #2 on the wishlist states: "Creating packages for FreeDOS software that are not packaged yet." Do we have a list of this software, partial or otherwise? Or any "top requests" as it were? Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS wishlist and feature requests

Hi everybody, it seems that https://sourceforge.net/p/freedos/feature-requests/ has not been updated for a while: A few wishes seem to no longer apply or would be easy to cover with current distros. On the other hand, the wishlist still is a classic ;-) >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:46 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > what are the pros and cons of Links2, Dillo, Dillo Plus? Links2 is much newer, so presumably (main version, not "lite") has better SSL and graphics mode support. Probably much faster, too. ___

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi :-) Rugxulo: what are the pros and cons of Links2, Dillo, Dillo Plus? > DOSLFN [TSR] is probably your best bet (although there are other > alternatives). But LFNs don't work by default (except for DJGPP > stuff), so not everything supports it. Michael and others: For which tools would

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 6:44 AM wrote: > > I found a free packet driver and I'm testing both gopherus and Dillo. Very > nice programs. FreeDOS includes some others, but I forget the full list. There's quite a lot out there in the wild (maybe too much for us few volunteers!). If only

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi, On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 7:41 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > One request, MS-DOS 6.22 has a tool called MSD. I like that the tool > > shows resources and memory and other useful debugging information. > > If someone can clone that clone that tool I'd be very appreciative. > >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

Hi Michael, > One request, MS-DOS 6.22 has a tool called MSD. I like that the tool > shows resources and memory and other useful debugging information. > If someone can clone that clone that tool I'd be very appreciative. I think MSD had very mixed features, which specifically do you want?

[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 RC2...

I found a free packet driver and I'm testing both gopherus and Dillo. Very nice programs. Would be nice to be able to raise the resolution for Dillo. I think I'm limited to 640x480 vga. Dillo doesn't seem to work with my rainloop server ;-( I can report that fdnpkg works though! I don't

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

or a one-time thing, it's not too bad. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user _______ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourcef

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/19/2020 7:59 AM, David McMackins wrote: It's worth noting that Raspbian is still only distributed in 32-bit form, failing to take full advantage of the 64-bit ARM processor on the Pi 4. If some other distribution is built for arm64, that may well perform better than Raspbian even though it

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/19/2020 6:08 AM, Swap Jim via Freedos-user wrote: On 2020-03-18 19:34, Jim Hall wrote: My *dmesg* output shows it is a plain Raspberry Pi 3B: [ 0.00] OF: fdt: Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Not that it matters for me. I used it as a "desktop" system for about a week, as an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1722, Issue 2

700 > From: Louis Santillan > To: "Discussion and general questions about FreeDOS." > > Subject: Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4 > Message-ID: > < > cab9rao-9gtn1fdneep+21nk+q-xyr3yw0pm6_qkf08r5eah...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos-user Digest, Vol 1722, Issue 2

z > > > > > > ___ > > Freedos-user mailing list > > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > > > > -- > > Message: 2 &

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/20 12:21 PM, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 3/18/2020 10:02 AM, Swap Jim via Freedos-user wrote: >> >> And in the meantime I'll try Fedora ARM, just in case it matters on >> the RPi4. > FAIK, Rasbian is the best supported distro on the RPi4B+ (hardware > wise). And beside that Raspberry.org

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 2020-03-18 19:34, Jim Hall wrote: My *dmesg* output shows it is a plain Raspberry Pi 3B: [ 0.00] OF: fdt: Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B Not that it matters for me. I used it as a "desktop" system for about a week, as an experiment, before I reinstalled it with Fedora ARM

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

QEMU+RPi takes longer, but it's not "all day" long. > It's more like "start the install, and make a cup of coffee while the install > finishes." For a one-time thing, it's not too bad. > > > _______ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 3:00 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Ralf, > > >> How about first installing to a directory or diskimage stored > >> in a ramdisk on the host OS, then copying that to mass storage? > > > This would be a bit like the old chicken and egg problem. The time you > > would spend to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/2020 12:58 PM, Eric Auer wrote: The only way you could possibly speed this up (at least on a RPi4B+) would be to use a USB media (external hard drive/SSD), with the RPi4B+ being significantly faster than previous models... Yes. It always is something to check how fast the USB and LAN

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

Hi Ralf, >> How about first installing to a directory or diskimage stored >> in a ramdisk on the host OS, then copying that to mass storage? > This would be a bit like the old chicken and egg problem. The time you > would spend to copy the contents of the FreeDOS distro from the SD card > to a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/2020 11:56 AM, Eric Auer wrote: Installing FreeDOS*on the Raspberry Pi *will take a long time regardless of what options you use in QEMU. It's because of the high disk I/O when you install an operating system like FreeDOS. It's made worse by doing it inside an emulator, but the biggest

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

Hi Jim! > Installing FreeDOS on the Raspberry Pi will take a long time regardless of > what options you use in QEMU. It's because of the high disk I/O when you > install an operating system like FreeDOS. It's made worse by doing it > inside an emulator, but the biggest slowdown when

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 18/03/2020 17:16, Ralf Quint wrote: What some people are forgetting (had the exact kind of discussion in a vintage computer forum just a few days ago) is that in this case, QEMU needs to completely emulate an x86 CISC CPU on an ARM RISC CPU, including converting all data on the fly between

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:36 PM Jon Brase wrote: > > On 3/18/20 11:44 AM, Jim Hall wrote: > > Actually, I think it's a problem on the Raspberry Pi 4. I've heard from a > few folks since the RPi4 came out that my how-to about running FreeDOS on > the Raspberry Pi (via QEMU) >

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/2020 10:34 AM, Jim Hall wrote: My *dmesg* output shows it is a plain Raspberry Pi 3B: [ 0.00] OF: fdt: Machine model: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B My RPi4B+ shows [    0.00] Booting Linux on physical CPU 0x0 [    0.00] Linux version 4.19.97-v7l+ (dom@buildbot) (gcc version

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

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Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/2020 10:02 AM, Swap Jim via Freedos-user wrote: And in the meantime I'll try Fedora ARM, just in case it matters on the RPi4. FAIK, Rasbian is the best supported distro on the RPi4B+ (hardware wise). And beside that Raspberry.org itself otherwise only promotes Ubuntu. Fedora/Pidora

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/2020 9:44 AM, Jim Hall wrote: Actually, I think it's a problem on the Raspberry Pi 4. I've heard from a few folks since the RPi4 came out that my how-to about running FreeDOS on the Raspberry Pi (via QEMU)  results in a

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net <mailto:Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user _

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

us software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > _______ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user > ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

On 3/18/2020 6:31 AM, Swap Jim via Freedos-user wrote: FreeDOS is very, very slow on QEMU running in a Raspberry 4. It's drawing the screen line by line when I do a DIR on C:\, with only 7 directories and files in it. It's worse in full screen. For those of you that run FreeDOS on a

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS is slow in Raspberry 4

FreeDOS is very, very slow on QEMU running in a Raspberry 4. It's drawing the screen line by line when I do a DIR on C:\, with only 7 directories and files in it. It's worse in full screen. For those of you that run FreeDOS on a Raspberry, can you offer a tip to make it go faster? Here is

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos USB Pendrive

, but to copy files to >> hdd i was wondering if could be possible to use a usb pendrive >> to copy files or only floppy/cd/dvd? >> >> Thank you. >> >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list &g

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos USB Pendrive

ing if could be possible to use a usb pendrive > to copy files or only floppy/cd/dvd? > > Thank you. > > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourcef

[Freedos-user] Freedos USB Pendrive

Hi. I have a pentium pc and i want to install freedos, but to copy files to hdd i was wondering if could be possible to use a usb pendrive to copy files or only floppy/cd/dvd? Thank you. ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3r-RC2 installation bug

I finally, after some trouble, installed FreeDOS 1.3-RC2 onto a USB stick, but not the intended one. I downloaded the USB-stick image, unzipped and wrote to the installation USB stick using dd, from NetBSD. It seems writing the installer USB stick was OK. I subsequently booted that USB stick,

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

> MS DOS 6.x was not the end of MS-DOS. Windows 9x releases added a > strange protected mode, but unlike NT, these versions of Windows still ran on > top of MS-DOS. > There is no support for DOS based Windows any longer and the > ReactOS project essentially abandoned it. However, there are >

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

The easiest way to support Windows 9x software would involve evolving FreeDOS into the 32-bit era, most likely via a kernel upgrade. Hmm, I seem to remember there being some little project aiming to do that... lol But yes, I agree it would be nice to have the option to run some older GUI

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

On Sun, Jan 5, 2020 at 8:28 PM wrote: > > MS DOS 6.x was not the end of MS-DOS. Windows 9x releases added a strange > protected mode, but unlike NT, these versions of Windows still ran on top of > MS-DOS. Well, kinda. Win3.X ran on top of DOS, and was essentially a multi-tasking shell with

[Freedos-user] Freedos 1.3 and Windows 9x...

MS DOS 6.x was not the end of MS-DOS. Windows 9x releases added a strange protected mode, but unlike NT, these versions of Windows still ran on top of MS-DOS. There is no support for DOS based Windows any longer and the ReactOS project essentially abandoned it. However, there are embedded

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Jerome, > Instead of copying the ISO, they could just copy the package > directories directly to the HDD. True, but not everybody who lacks optical drives has the infrastructure to extract files from ISOs or diskimages installed. Of course some readme / howto would help :-) > But off the

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Eric, > Hi Jerome, thanks for your answers! :-) > It would be cool if it included the drivers for that > and a readme. Only so much fits on a floppy. With the basic tools required to partition and format, run the installer and perform some essential recovery tasks. It is getting kind of

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Jerome, thanks for your answers! Of course it would be cool if a live USB image would be automatically treated correctly by virtual computers, but I do not know how much or little a VMDK is needed. Pity that boot BIOS bugs are so different that one needs at least two boot style images to

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi Eric, Some good questions in there. I know you already know most of the things I cover in this message. But, I felt I should simplify a lot of the details and go over it for those who may not know some of this stuff. > On Dec 9, 2019, at 7:42 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi! > > Thanks

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

My reply is at the bottom. Please put your reply there too. On Mon, 9 Dec 2019, Jim Hall wrote: We are still moving toward the FreeDOS 1.3 release.  FreeDOS 1.3 Release Candidate 2 is now available for download. Please help us test this new version! A big feature in FreeDOS 1.3 will be

Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

Hi! Thanks for the announcements... I have some questions :-) If legacy avoids syslinux / memdisk, which computers can boot from CD but can not use syslinux / memdisk? And which computers can use syslinux / memdisk but can not boot from el torito (did you mean boot floppy image?) bootable CD?

[Freedos-user] FreeDOS 1.3 RC2 is available for download

We are still moving toward the FreeDOS 1.3 release. FreeDOS 1.3 Release Candidate 2 is now available for download. Please help us test this new version! A big feature in FreeDOS 1.3 will be booting into a LiveCD version of FreeDOS. You can test this by downloading FD13-LiveCD.zip, which contains

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hallo Herr Ralf Quint, am Montag, 25. November 2019 um 18:43 schrieben Sie: > On 11/25/2019 8:36 AM, TK Chia wrote: >>> One problem here is what I mentioned a lot of times in the past but >>> always got scoffed at is that these are highly technical apps but do not >>> have any proper technical

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On 11/25/2019 8:36 AM, TK Chia wrote: Hello Ralf Quint, Will try to take a closer look a bit later this evening. One problem here is what I mentioned a lot of times in the past but always got scoffed at is that these are highly technical apps but do not have any proper technical

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hello Ralf Quint, Will try to take a closer look a bit later this evening. One problem here is what I mentioned a lot of times in the past but always got scoffed at is that these are highly technical apps but do not have any proper technical documentation. And they are typical examples of

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On 11/24/2019 2:41 PM, Jon Brase wrote: To expand on why CHKDSK itself can't deal with FAT32, Freedos tries to retain compatibility with quite a broad range of hardware, including both any 8086 machines that anybody still has lying around, and modern hardware. So CHKDSK has to be able to be

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On 11/24/2019 2:31 PM, Eric Auer wrote: Hi Ralf and Dale, please check http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/dosfsck.html to get an impression of dosfsck :-) While the DOS port is old, it does know about LFN long file names and even checks for

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

To expand on why CHKDSK itself can't deal with FAT32, Freedos tries to retain compatibility with quite a broad range of hardware, including both any 8086 machines that anybody still has lying around, and modern hardware. So CHKDSK has to be able to be able to work on 8086s. This means that it

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hi Ralf and Dale, please check http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/distributions/1.2/repos/pkg-html/dosfsck.html to get an impression of dosfsck :-) While the DOS port is old, it does know about LFN long file names and even checks for their consistency, as far as I

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On 11/24/2019 2:03 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: So why didn't freedos keep dosfsck; it its better?. There isn't really anything to keep, it is a Linux program. And I recall that there were issues with at least the early attempts to port this Linux app to plain DOS IIRC, like causing corruption

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

> So why didn't freedos keep dosfsck; it its better? Hm? I expect FreeDOS to ship with both, dosfsck and chkdsk! The former can do fat32, but the latter is more familiar classic DOS style, so both are good :-) Eric ___ Freedos-user mailing list

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

So why didn't freedos keep dosfsck; it its better?. cheers DS On Sun, 24 Nov 2019 22:48:22 +0100 Eric Auer writes: > > Hi Dale, > > FAT32 has too large metadata to be convenient > to handle for CHKDSK. Because of this, it is > only supported by DOSFSCK, which requires a > 386 or newer CPU

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On 11/24/2019 1:44 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: Why would Freedos be using a chkdsk that doesn't work on fat32? Because nobody has bothered to enable chkdsk to (safely!) work with FAT32 partitions. And that is a much bigger task done properly than just updating a few numbers to run over a

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hi Dale, FAT32 has too large metadata to be convenient to handle for CHKDSK. Because of this, it is only supported by DOSFSCK, which requires a 386 or newer CPU and several MB of free RAM. It has been a while since DOSFSCK got ported to DOS, but I think you will be fine with the older version

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Why would Freedos be using a chkdsk that doesn't work on fat32? An that doesn't explain lchk's report on line 16. I'm starting to wonder if freedos runs on fat32 but doesn't support it -that seems strange if its true. That file you wanted so badly is c:\tcl86r2\clock.tcl and its 152K not 1.5meg as

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 3:49 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I ran freedos chkdsk and it said: > "fat32 not currently supported" > This was on FREEdos1.2. > Also lchk said on line 16 of its report: > "FAT32 compatible disk access disabled" > This was on FREEdos1.2 running on 32 gig cf chip > with an

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

I ran freedos chkdsk and it said: "fat32 not currently supported" This was on FREEdos1.2. Also lchk said on line 16 of its report: "FAT32 compatible disk access disabled" This was on FREEdos1.2 running on 32 gig cf chip with an FAT32 format. I'm not happy with the word "disabled" Can you explain

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hi again, On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:09 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I'm running FREEDOS 1.2 on a 32 gig cf chip which works > just like an IDE harddrive. Only about 2 gigs of the chip is > used, the rest is free space with a FAT 32 format. It could be some kind of obscure firmware bug. So

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hi, On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:04 PM Dale E Sterner wrote: > > I used the mem command to check for freespace. > Currently I'm using PCdos 7.1; since it only works > on fat16 I'm running out of space fast. I've never directly used PC-DOS. It's no longer sold nor developed anymore, AFAIK, so you

Re: [Freedos-user] Freedos 1.2 move, copy & xcopy

Hi, (sorry I'm late) On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 2:40 PM Eric Auer wrote: > > > I have 30 gigs of freespace. I have 2 gigs used out of 32 gigs. > > Only FAT32 aware software will be able to notice when > you have more than 2 GB of free disk space ;-) > > Would be interesting to know which software

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