Re: G5 Optical Drive Data Cable
Hi, They're standard for whatever their interface is at the drive end:- ATA for ATA/IDE, SATA for SATA etc., but the other end might vary between systems, depending on the motherboard/adapter connection. Ted From: Avid_Fan spe...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, 26 February 2012, 21:35 Subject: G5 Optical Drive Data Cable I'm in need of an optical drive data cable. Are they easy to pick up on the cheap? Do they use a standard data cable from any computer parts place? Cheers, Evan -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 PowerBook can't boot from Tiger Install DVD
From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 30 January 2012, 5:06 Subject: Re: G4 PowerBook can't boot from Tiger Install DVD At 10:35 PM -0500 1/29/2012, Barry Levine wrote: So have we decided it's OK to share info about mac laptops? It's a G4, covered by this list. It's a laptop - once removed rule - so ok. (Remembering how and why a previous G4 laptop query was deep-sixed... A seemingly arbitrary exclusion.) Yea, well, sometimes it's better to help a user in need than to fret over nitpicking rules. The point of the rules is to keep the s:n up, and the noise itself to a dull roar. The LEM lists have been so quiet recently,,, ... Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools. Discuss Just my 2-pennyworth... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: connectivity question
My G5 ran happily with an ethernet router (DSL) and the Apple USB modem plugged into a USB port. Worked OK without any glitches... Ted From: ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 21 November 2011, 7:08 Subject: connectivity question my main computer for office work is a QS'02 running tiger. i've been using a DSL modem (Siemens Speedstream 4200) hardwired to e-net port to connect to my ISP. i'd like to add FAX capability. i have an old BestData 56USBMAC that i used to use with a PCI mac and OS9. but there are no drivers for OSX on the bestdata website, and plugnplay didn't work. can anyone recommend a cheap FAXmodem? and how would that work? can OSX see the FAX modem plugged into a USB port and the DSL modem plugged into the e-net port simultaneously, and use both simultaneously? TIA -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Toast 10 not loading.
Hi all, All of a sudden, Toast 10 has been unwilling to load of a friend's iMac. It was (apparently) working a few weeks ago. I asked him to send me any messages from the log, and I was provided with the following. The console message reads:- Jun 19 13:57:08 Macintosh com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[122] ([0x0-0x27c27c].com.roxio.Toast[3912]): Exited with exit code: 255 Jun 19 13:58:38 Macintosh com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[122] ([0x0-0x27d27d].com.roxio.Toast[3920]): Exited with exit code: 255 Jun 19 13:58:51 Macintosh com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[122] ([0x0-0x27e27e].com.roxio.Toast[3923]): Exited with exit code: 255 Jun 19 13:58:56 Macintosh com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[122] ([0x0-0x27f27f].com.roxio.Toast[3926]): Exited with exit code: 255 Jun 19 13:59:07 Macintosh com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[122] ([0x0-0x280280].com.roxio.Toast[3928]): Exited with exit code: 255 Jun 19 13:59:20 Macintosh com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[122] ([0x0-0x281281].com.roxio.Toast[3931]): Exited with exit code: 255 This doesn't mean a lot to me:- is there anyone who could shed any helpful light on this? Thanks Ted. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bounced mail?
Loads of 'em. Have added postmas...@fusenet.com to my Blocked addresses list so they won't even reach my inbox Ted From: Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011, 20:43 Subject: Bounced mail? Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long time ago? -- -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bounced mail?
I meant of course postmas...@fuse.net From: Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011, 22:06 Subject: Re: Bounced mail? Loads of 'em. Have added postmas...@fusenet.com to my Blocked addresses list so they won't even reach my inbox Ted From: Jonas Ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 11 June 2011, 20:43 Subject: Bounced mail? Anyone else getting tons of bounce mail coming back? Stuff you sent a long time ago? -- -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)?
From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2011, 19:22 Subject: Re: Power Mac G4 (AGP graphics)? At 1:05 PM -0400 6/5/2011, John Callahan wrote: My G4 works flawlessly while I am using it but if I leave it running it freezes and a message comes up that says you need to restart your computer. Anyone have any idea of what's wrong? That's a kernel panic. Check the system.log and panic log files to see exactly what died. Have you made any hardware changes to your system recently? Do you have any tasks that explicitly run when you're idle? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. - A common problem with G4 systems is sleep - when a USB2 card is fitted. Have you by any chance got a USB2 card in there? Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 1.8mhz spinning pinwheel
From: Wayne Garrett groge...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011 3:41:47 Subject: G5 1.8mhz spinning pinwheel I tried 10.4 Tiger and it boots fine. I tried disk repair and am getting incorrect # of threads It has tried repairing it twice now. We will see? 750gigs of data, most is backed up at least. snip Incorrect threads indicates a screwed directory. DiskWarrior will probably fix it - Disk Utility is unlikely to. If you don't have access to DiskWarrior, and if you've got everything backed up, it needs reinitialising and the data restoring from backup. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 1.8mhz spinning pinwheel
From: Wayne Garrett groge...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 17 May, 2011 3:11:56 Subject: G5 1.8mhz spinning pinwheel My G5 mac (pci dual 1.8 2mgs ram 10.5.8 Has the mac chime, then the pinwheel hash marks. Next, the fans get faster and faster until max speed. I tried removing the Battery and putting it back in. This fixed it once. Now, no go. It does not want to boot from DVD either. It shuts off just before it should reach the install screen. If it won't boot from the DVD, there's a possibility that the battery you put back is dead. For what they cost, it's worth trying a new one and resetting the CUDA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mac_users_guide/3540352097/) before powering on. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Extracting JPEGl Files From Phone Attachments
snip I did try saving the entire file as .jpg and opening in PhotoShop and I get the message: Could not open attachment6.jpeg because JPEG marker segment length is too short (file may be truncated or incomplete). Snip I've had this message before in Photoshop, but I've been able to open (and re-save) the image with Graphic Converter. Can't hurt to try. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Huge amount of bounced mail coming back from this list...
Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Same here. On Apr 19, 2011, at 9:30 PM, Dan Palka turboda...@gmail.com mailto:turboda...@gmail.com wrote: I've received like 20 bounced emails today, some dating from years ago, from a user on this group trinettejohn...@fuse.net mailto:trinettejohn...@fuse.net Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks, Dan ___ Dan Palka | *INFO-MAC* | *w:* info-mac.org http://info-mac.org | *e:* d...@info-mac.org mailto:d...@info-mac.org | *p:* 312.857.6522 Yup, me too. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New addition to my tool kit...
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Apr 1, 2011, at 2:40 PM, JoeTaxpayer wrote: On Apr 1, 4:37 pm, Bruce Johnsonjohn...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: ...something everyone who works with computers should have in their kit... http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10622 I'm buying a bunch! This is ridiculous. I paid over twice the price for half the portion they are selling here. I guess I got ripped off. :( What can I say, the magic smoke market is highly volatile... It is at the moment - but it could vanish in a puff... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Bootable External
John Carmonne wrote: On Mar 11, 2011, at 8:30 PM, Anne Keller-Smith wrote: OK, went to Staples today cuz I was passing it, a waste of time. They only had USB drives. Did some googling and it looks like with an Intel Mac any Firewire will do, and most USB will work but that's not optimum. Also was suggested to use SuperDuper to clone. I've always used Carbon Copy Cloner. Comparisons? What do you guys like? Carbon Copy Cloner is free and works perfectly every time. BTJM. You cannot boot a Time machine backup but you can do a complete restore with it, (most of the time) So a CCC is a good thing to have/. Yes, CCC is free - AND offers support. But could I respectfully remind users that Mike Bombich appreciates donations to help fund his work? No. I have no connection with Bombich Software - I'm not even on the same continent. Just a satisfied user, that's all. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: spills wireless keyboard
From: Dan dantear...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011 4:23:05 Subject: Re: spills wireless keyboard At 4:29 PM -0700 3/8/2011, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Mar 8, 2011, at 2:57 PM, michaelangelo wrote: If I accidentially dump my coffee on the keyboad is there the same liklihood of shorting out or otherwise damaging the computer as there is with a wired keyboard or is this actually a good way to prevent damage beyond the yeyboard or mouse? Since there is no physical electrical connection it's as if you turned off the KB. heh. That's just no fun. Everyone knows that electrical shorts travel thru the aether just as well as they travel through metal and maple syrup. humph. Darn. There's a cat whisker in my coffee mug again. No wonder r new furball (7mos!) is so boingy! http://dl.dropbox.com/u/610326/Vicky%2C%20on%20the%20shelf.jpg And don't put any new Mac keyboards through the wash cycle; this worked with the older ones, but the new aluminum ones are actually glued together and do not mix with liquids at all. Um, yea, what Bruce said. The days of dishwasherin' gear are Over. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. Dan, Beautiful creature (Vicky, that is). But re the kbd, perhaps the shorts are utilising the Tesla effect...? Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: wireless signal theft
From: Charles Lenington macso...@brightok.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011 14:48:31 Subject: Re: wireless signal theft On 3/9/11 8:34 AM, Yersinia wrote: On 3/9/11 8:53 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: I hope everyone with unsecured wireless networks takes todays report o =snip If you turn off your wireless and bluetooth networks, how do you use them yourself legitimately? Oh, I haven't found a need for them. I have plenty of hubs, routers and cat 5 cables. I turn off at both houses, (country and town). _ I'm with Charles on this one (although I don't have country town residences). I DO have 13 cats, and as yet, I'm unconvinced of the safety of exposing them 24/7 to 2.4GHz EMR. Cat5E is cheap - well, as cheap as anything is here in the UK. Bluetooth I use very occasionally - rarely for more than 5 mins at a time, but with a G5 desktop a MacPro desktop, neither of which are readily portable, I haven't needed to even consider WiFi. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 PPC to Mac Pro?
From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 3 March, 2011 1:46:26 Subject: G5 PPC to Mac Pro? Hi All I tried to post this to the Mac Pro list but I see no life there for many months, hopefully I don't get kicked outta here for this question. I'm in the process of buying a Mac Pro Quad Core 2.66 early 2009 W3520 processor. It's brand new discontinued from Apple. Is there any significant reasons to buy a later model at this time. I mainly want to run AutoCad for Mac and keep adding to my music and DVD collection. I have a G5 Dual 2.7 PPC machine but the AutoCad requires Intel 64 bit. Any help here would be much appreciated.:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA Sent from my MBP Hi John, Last August I bought an ex-demo 8-core MacPro 2.26 ( E5520) so I could run CS5 - necessary for work. Domestic senior management has 'inherited' my older G5 dual 2.0, which is more than adequate for her needs. You'll be amazed by the speed of the Nehalem machines compared with that of the PPC G5, although the G5 is still a very capable machine. I believe the later (ie current) MacPros differ only in the CPU (OWC offer upgrades to the CPU board, if that's your thing), and many sources show a degree of improvement over the Nehalem, but I think in practical terms, increasing the RAM on a 2009 machine will leave you with something which is not that far removed from the current offering. Assuming you're getting a good deal pricewise, go for the 2009 MacPro. HTH Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Spark
FAO Dan (and anyone else interested) Spark (v 3.0b9) seems happy in 10.6.6 on 2009 Mac Pro. Spark Daemon reports as Intel in activity monitor, 0.21 CPU time, 2.9MB Private Mem, 27.4MB Shared Mem 60.6 Virt Mem - so it's not a resource hog. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Spark
Dan wrote: I'm sitting here with only my QS running Tiger, so I can't test... Does Spark work on Leopard? on Snow Leopard? on Lion? http://www.shadowlab.org/Software/spark.php Thanks! - Dan. Hi Dan Just tried it on my G5 dual2.0 with 10.5.8. Works a treat. Thanks for making me aware of it. Later I'll try it on my MacPro with Snow Leopard. No idea re Lion (yet). Best, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Main drive
Norm Rowe wrote: When I restart my G4 Mac it now goes to the secondary drive unless I hold down the C key and tell it to use the main drive. How do I fix this? Norm System Preferences - Startup Disk then select the one you want. Choice is stored in PRAM, so if it's constantly forgetting, your PRAM (Mobo) battery may be due for replacement. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Seemingly Dead Yosemite G3
vacputer wrote: My Yosemite G3 300 is failing to boot. The unit's power light comes on, the hard disk spins up, and nothing else happens. No chime, no video. I have tried everything I can. I have removed all SIMMs and replaced them with the original 64MB Apple SIMM. No joy. I have pushed the CUDA button, no joy. I have removed all PCI cards except the original RAGE 128 graphics card. I have confirmed said card's functionality in my Quicksilver G4. It works fine. I have replaced the 1/2 AA battery, but the replacement may be dead. I have no way to measure its voltage. Should I buy a new battery, or is there anything else I can try? I have used BW G3s with dead batteries before, so I don't know if the battery is the problem. All those symptoms suggest a dead 1/2 AA battery. G4 machines certainly behave like this, and for such a small cost, it's got to be worth a shot. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise???
The only bad things about leaving your monitor in standby mode are:- 1) Your electricity costs will be a little higher. 2) With ANY electrical item left unattended in standby mode, there is a slightly increased risk of fire. Other than those two minor points, there shouldn't be any problems. Ted From: Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 8 February, 2011 14:41:20 Subject: Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise??? Thank you! Now I feel more relaxed already! Anyway, what about my CRT monitor? Has someone got a idea? I wrote about it in my last reply. Have a nice day! 2011/2/8, schaf...@comcast.net schaf...@comcast.net: Not to worry. The bee has been a normal event here for years. I have no idea what it is but it's apparently harmless. My best guess is a drive doing some sort of alignment check. I have a Seagate 320, a Seagate 80 and an IBM 80. I sounds benign, lasts about 1 or 1 1/2 seconds, occurs totally randomly a couple of times a day, and doesn't affect anything that I've noticed. My dual 1GB MDD runs 24/7 w/o sleep, BTW. FYI, if you hear the fan speed up much at all, try cleaning the intake plenum chamber in the lower front (aggressively with a tooth brush or similar and a vacuum upholstery brush). Get all the dust bunnies you can see. My temp went from 138 deg F down to 126 and the fan complains MUCH less now. - Peter PS: I find a bit of grog helps the nerves. YMMV - Original Message - From: Matevž Markovič ivwcorporation.mat...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 4:19:17 AM Subject: Re: Powermac G4 mdd dual Strange noise??? Hy! I am installing a new system for my powermac (and I am like bit on the edge with my nerves, because everything goes wrong), and I heard no such noise when I loaded the optical drive with my installation DVD. It seems that this sound poops up randomly. Well, I this computer is normally up for days, but iStat reads 46-49C temperature, so there should be no problem. I really hope that it is not something wrong with the PSU. Should I reset PMU? If so, with what command in the open firmware? p.s. I is it OK for the CRT monitor to be in standby mode for days? I really worry, because sometimes I leave the computer on when I leave home (it does some intense processing). My monitor is SAMSUNG SyncMaster 957p, some 8 years old. The image is of very high quality, never damaged (as far as I know), on the power surge. Thanks for answers, Matevž -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
2009 MacPro + Blu-Ray
Hi All, Asking here as there seems to be very little activity on the MacPro list, and I stay on this list for my G5 Dual 2,.0. I also have an 2009 Mac Pro (bought in April 2010), and I would like to add an optical drive with Lightscribe into the lower optical bay which is currently empty. I've been considering a Blu-Ray writer, and have bought the Blu-Ray module to expand my Toast 10 Titanium. Some Pioneer Blu-Ray models seem to give trouble with Macs, and OWC are offering LG models, but here in the UK I can get the LiteOn IHBS212-32 12x BDRW at a very good price. Does anyone on the list know in the LiteOn is fairly happy with Macs? And although it's not a primary consideration, is there any software yet that will enable playback of commercial Blu-Ray films on a Mac (I have an NEC 23 EA231WMi monitor, 1080p resolution)? Thanks, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower
From: jason yoinkma...@yahoo.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 3 February, 2011 23:08:18 Subject: Re: 1.8 ghz g5 tower A couple of things have popped up. I have the radeon 9600 card, it starts up when I press the power button in front, the fans turn on, but I get no video display. No startup chime whereas it had been starting up with the chime yesterday. I installed 10.4 yesterday on the new harddrive. On a whim, I attached a firewire drive with 10.4 loaded on it to the firewire port, then the computer display lit up normally. There was no startup chime, though. However, the incorrect time and date advisory came up. I suppose the pram battery is shot. _ I can pretty well guarantee it. Almost certainly a new PRAM battery will restore your G5 to proper functionality. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is LogMeIn the answer?
Jane, (Portland, OR) wrote: On Jan 20, 1:34 pm, Tina K.penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011/01/20 19:04, Jane, (Portland, OR) so eloquently wrote: I have heard of LogMeIn, but it looks like you have to pay for it. I don't know how well it works, either. Can any of you recommend a program and how easy it would be to use? What about Screen Sharing in Core Services? That's what I use on the LAN, I've never done remote on the WAN though. I would think with proper configuration it would work (mainly enabling remote access and port forwarding to his PowerBook). Tina LAN means the local network, say in your house, with 2-3 computers connected by an Airport or router, correct? I tried to connect to my MacBookPro and the PowerBook from my new iMac using the GOConnect to Server. I kept getting a message that said incorrect password or user name and I KNOW they were correct. (I use the same one for all the computers.) So I could not connect with Screen Sharing. Also, would I have to be home to use the Screen Sharing? Jane You can achieve screen sharing between MacBooks iMacs with iChat - I am not sure if this is 10.5/10.6 only, but no doubt someone with greater experience knowledge than me (and that won't be too hard to achieve) will know if this extends back to 10.4 as well. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Gonna eat the feast
Paul Twiddy wrote: (\0/) /_\ On Dec 25, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Fluxstringer wrote: Christmas cheer to all. Laying down the hatchets for a day cannot hurt. (\0/) /_\ Nice. Nice sentiment. Thanks Ted (in UK) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
Tom wrote: Yeah, I don't know why the drivers for this rather common video card were left out of Leopard, but obviously they were. Somebody at Apple goofed? Ted, are you sure it was the card that was bad, or only the driver? I'm pretty sure it was the card, as it was OK when booted from cold, but after running for 4 - 5 minutes, blocky artefacts appeared. So something was definitely not good, and it appeared to be heat-exacerbated. Also, booting from the other drive (10.4) in the G4 didn't improve matters... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Help - what does this mean?
DLC wrote: Quick Update; I had my daughter reset the motherboard - so far, it worked. Still curious about the splash screen - I can send anyone a pict if you're at all curious yourself. Thanks, Dana On Dec 18, 12:43 pm, DLCdlcatft...@frontier.com wrote: Greetings all, I little help in discerning a splash page on boot-up I've not seen before. I gave my daughter an upgraded G4 Quicksilver (1.5GHz single CPU, running leopard). It has an ATI Radeon card in it, a rather nice one iirc, 9500, w/ 256Mb RAM. She sent me a cell phone photo of a picture she now gets on boot-up, a little picture of the ATI card (w/ the ATI logo to its right) with the Mac not proceeding with the boot-up process. This is the initial page one sees at startup, so I suspect something nefarious with the card. Any one ever get this, and if so, what does it mean? Thank you, Dana Hi, I have seen a similar splash screen, but when a Radeon 9800 was fitted, and its direct power lead (to the 9800, that is) wasn't connected. i can only surmise that the Mac/Card combination was unhappy about something, and the CUDA reset has sorted it. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels
From: Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 17 December, 2010 0:23:57 Subject: Re: The Attack of the Giant Pixels On Dec 16, 2010, at 5:07 PM, Tom wrote: Then I took off the 23 Cinema Display and hooked up a 15 one, but the result was the same: square clumps of pixels all over the monitor-- they seem to show up wherever you click the mouse--and I noticed that they have various colors on them, and some of them even have tiny bits of text on them. I believe they are actually little-bitty windows of some sort. I've had Macs since 1986, but I've never seen anything like this. I have, with a failing video card or a corrupted driver. If it does this in safe mode, and you've checked both Software update and ATI for updated drivers and firmware, yeah, it's time to look for a new card. As you've found, you need to make sure you get a card for the correct one. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group I had exactly the same symptoms with a 9800 in my G4. Returned to ATI for an exchange as it was still under warranty. They accepted that it had died prematurely. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: speakers
I spent a little more on a set of Logitech Z-323, and have been pleasantly surprised at the quality of output from a £35 purchase. That equates to around US$55, but I'd bet they're a damn sight cheaper in the US than in the UK. Everything else is... Ted Baldassare Guzzo wrote: Thanks. Im looking at them now. On Dec 12, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Barney Guzzo guz...@gmail.com mailto:guz...@gmail.com wrote: Can anyone recommend inexpensive but a good quality set of speakers for my PM G4 Quicksilver 933? Altec Lansing BX1221 Cans About $15 at Walmart with Subwoofer about $ 25 The $ 25 set sounds great at low cost. Reproduces pretty much whatever your basic or card pumped sound system output is capable of and does it very well. I found this link in a websearch, the blog shows what they look like. http://hubpages.com/hub/Altec-Lansing-BXR1221-Review -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer fluxstrin...@gmail.com mailto:fluxstrin...@gmail.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/fluxstreamcommunication/ http://www.facebook.com/FluxStringer http://www.linkedin.com/in/fluxstreamcommunications http://flux-influx.blogspot.com/ http://fluxdreams.designbinder.com/ -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: No connection found
Tina K. wrote: On 2010/12/12 13:05, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio so eloquently wrote: Several tries in different ways could not find anything with a URL of facebook.net http://facebook.net or www.facebook.net http://www.facebook.net. That is strange, I rechecked Little Snitch and the connection request was indeed for facebook.net. One way or the other it's not gonna happen lol. Tina Sure, but Google facebook.net and there are some interesting returns, which I don't have the time to fully investigate - but I still don't feel inclined to trust in anything Facebook... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service
From: James Therrault jetas...@netzero.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 3 December, 2010 2:19:22 Subject: Re: Ungrateful Apple abandons older Mac service On Dec 2, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Yersinia wrote: On 12/2/10 7:54 PM, James Therrault wrote: On Dec 2, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Dan wrote: At 8:44 PM -0800 12/1/2010, Jonas Lopez wrote: a minor wise point here - if you are ever in your car and a storm causes electric overhead wires to fall on the car and you can see sparks outside -- DO NOT MOVE, DO NOT GET OUT OF YOUR CAR - you are in no real danger provided your not a part of the ELECTRIC CIRCUIT Correct. - the metal of your car is ELECTRIFIED but the tires will prevent it from burning since they act as a nice insulator. Incorrect. The tires are not made of pure rubber. They are made from a blend of rubber, synthetics, metallics, etc. Then there are those pesky steel belts. IOW, your tires are *great* conductors. They are (luckily!) NOT insulators. You don't get electrocuted, as long as you're inside the car, because the current is passing thru the metal chassis, thru the tires, to ground. Some of the current is going thru you, but it's a trivial amount, as electricity prefers the better route - thru the tires to ground. It might be worth mentioning that the car acts as a Faraday (sp?) box whereas most of the voltage/current remains on the outer perimeter. The way out of this is NOT TO STEP OUT as that will complete the electrical circuit and you will be toast. Correct. If you were to step out of the car, while still in contact with the chasis, then the current would use you as the better route to ground. That would be bad. BUT if you can jump out BEING SURE YOUR TOTALLY IN THE AIR then you can exit the car with no problems. But to take that flying leap... Current jumps at the rate of about 10,000 volts per inch. You better clear the car completely, *and* all the wet pavement, by quite a bit... This is totally not recommended. The best thing to do is just sit tight until the power is turned off. Yesh. Personally, I think I'll just stay indoors during a thunder-and-lightning storm! :-O Hiding under the bed might offer even more security. JT _But what about the monsters that lurk under the bed? (I know it's true - I read it in Calvin Hobbes) Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they soooo different
From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 30 November, 2010 0:23:15 Subject: Re: DVD, Webcam, Pix, and Images: why are they s different On 2010/11/29 16:07, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: You left off: The really, truly final Directors 20th anniversary Redux cut with all the crap we originally left on the cutting room floor jammed back in no matter how disjointed it makes the final product, just because it was cool having Martin Sheen visit a bunch of demented french colonialists on a plantation in the middle of the Vietnam War. And after that they'll make the Stripped down, nitty gritty, meat 'n potatoes version. All the sex and violence without those pesky plots. Ideal for people who have already stretched themselves too thin. Tina That's why I've taken to buying pretty well all of my DVDs from ebay at @ £0.99 in the UK (about $1.50). Even if I were piratically inclined, it's cheaper this way, so piracy isn't worth the bother.. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How should a family of five share one computer?
Showing you're a nice guy is nothing to apologise for. Best Ted (in the UK) From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 26 November, 2010 1:37:43 Subject: Re: How should a family of five share one computer? On 11/25/10 12:52 PM, Dana Collins of dlcatft...@frontier.com sent Well, hello Michael. I have a few moments of from my turkey duty and discovered this nice summary notice from you. Etc... Colleagues. This was meant to go directly to Michael, and I obviously goofed. My profound apologies to all, though the holiday blessing can be mutually received. Sheepishly yours, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ADC to DVI Adaptor
From: Trickster peter.mccullo...@gmail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 12 November, 2010 15:41:02 Subject: Re: ADC to DVI Adaptor Thanks for the link Ted. I currently have a 5200 in there... thoughts on an upgrade path? My G5 has a 256MB 9650 in there:- The Mac's an early 2005 Dual 2.0 which I bought used, so I don't know if it was a BTO or after sale upgrade, but it does have 2 x DVD connectors (one is dual-link), no ADC or anything odd. There's a new one on ebay in Ireland, item #200538373020 but it's quite a price. Have a look at everymac:- http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powermac_g5/index-powermac-g5.html which will show what was used in all the various options, and you should be able to find a good card on ebay or LEMSwap Ted On Nov 11, 6:27 am, Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com wrote: You could also put in an extra (used) graphic card in a PCI slot. Those are really cheap. But if you're not that tight, you could consider replacing the current AGP card by a better one. I don't know how good the factory-installed cards in the G5 are, but when I wanted to connect a DVI monitor to my Digital Audio (G4), I found that ADC-DVI adapters cost almost the same as upgrading to an ATI Radeon 9000 card having simultaneous ADC and DVI output. Ted Treen wrote: looking for an ADC-DVI adaptor at the moment.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: ADC to DVI Adaptor
Trickster wrote: Hi Everyone, Have a Powermac g5, running 10.5, 7 gigs of ram, 2x1B drives. Is my primary machine, and an upgrade just isnt in the cards at the moment. Want to add dual monitor support, but am looking for an ADC- DVI adaptor at the moment. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks Peter Try the Belkin offering:- overstock.com has stock http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Belkin-ADC-To-DVI-Apple-Monitor-Adapter/2635861/product.html?cid=133635 Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Shutdown issues
From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 8 November, 2010 7:32:38 Subject: Re: G5 Shutdown issues On 2010/11/07 19:49, DLC so eloquently wrote: I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to be done at that moment. My PM developed a similar problem when I up, er, sidegraded from Tiger to Leopard. It seemed to get better when I uninstalled USB Overdrive but it still happens from time to time and I have no idea why. But at least you're not the only one. :-) Tina My G5 dual2.0 would occasionally do this:- I ran Onyx, cleared all temp cache files (and I mean ALL) and problem went away... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Shutdown issues
From: Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 8 November, 2010 7:32:38 Subject: Re: G5 Shutdown issues On 2010/11/07 19:49, DLC so eloquently wrote: I have two G5 towers in our lab (1.8GHz DP-late 2004 models) running 10.5.8. They have both suddenly acquired the habit of not wanting to shut down. When instructed, the Desktop dismounts, the Dock folds down and then they just sit there. A force shutdown is what needs to be done at that moment. My PM developed a similar problem when I up, er, sidegraded from Tiger to Leopard. It seemed to get better when I uninstalled USB Overdrive but it still happens from time to time and I have no idea why. But at least you're not the only one. :-) Tina My G5 dual2.0 would occasionally do this:- I ran Onyx, cleared all temp cache files (and I mean ALL) and problem went away... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: More Strange Stuff On A G5 iMac
Gottick International wrote: This is one of the older ones. Pre-intel. All G5 computers are pre-intel. Which G5 model is it? On Nov 7, 2010, at 6:59 AM, AndersFager wrote: I'm trying to get this iMac G5 to start from an installer disc in order to format the new drive. And now I have a black screen with a little blinking white square in the upper left corner. It feels like the damned thing has gone Win 3.0 on me. What can be done in this enviroment? There were altogether eight different models of iMac G5. You did not indicate your specific model. For my own iMac G5 (2.1GHz, 20, iSight), the Install Disc 1 includes its Apple Hardware Test. The AHT ReadMe file clearly states that You may be able to start up your computer with Apple Hardware Test even if the machine will not start up under the Mac OS. You can access AHT by holding down the Option key while booting from the Install Disc. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com mailto:g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list __ Anders Fager Gottick International www.gottick.com http://www.gottick.com -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.
Gottick International wrote: OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What about jumper settings? On SATA drives the jumpers generally aren't used. The old one had a jumper. ;-) And I put it in the same spot on the new drive. Can anyone give me a definitive on this? Does using a jumper in the wrong slot shut down the whole drive? No. The jumper on a SATA drive restricts it to 1.5Gbs (SATA 1) speed. It won't have any other effect. Cable looks fine. Conects well. Can one test it in one way or another? I've wondered about this, you keep saying cable when there are two cables plural for any SATA HD, one is the data cable, the other is the power cable. Is it possible you're not connecting BOTH cables? There are two cables. Fits next to each other. Both have small pegs and look the same, though one is wider than the other. Tried it. Found the small button on the keyboard. No luck. I don't think you reset the SMU using a small button on the keyboard? I did. Funky stuff flashed past on the screen. That was it. Shoud I remove the above mentioned jumpers and try again? A I have no idea what you did: SMU resets are not performed when the computer is powered up, so there should be nothing on the screen - funky or otherwise Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why
On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote: Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug* Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while I sleep I can do just fine without it. Tina Tina, you must be related to my wife... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: IS the world about to change ?
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:24 AM, James Therrault wrote: Some years back, Michael Dell made an utterance to the effect, We are now in Chapter X of computing and when Chapter Xx is written, Apple won't be in it. If one follows stocks at all, Dell's been languishing in the cellar while Apple's in the stratosphere. But this doesn't mean that Apple is imune from self destructing. Just look at last week's girations after Apple revealed iPad sales below expectations, (regardless of reason). Do not EVER convolute Wall Street stock fluctuations with 'self-destructing'. The biggest lie in capitalism today is the concept of a 'rational market'. Or as Kay put it succinctly in 'Men in Black: A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. A company can do things that cause it to self-destruct, and the stock market will notice it, but the reason that Apple didn't sell as many iPads as Wall Street analysts (not Apple, btw) predicted is because Apple COULD NOT MAKE THEM FAST ENOUGH. Apple announced their most profitable quarter EVER in the history of the company, and investors responded by complaining that it wasn't *enough* profit. (This said in the midst of the worst economic slowdown since the Great Depression.) I haven't seen this much wailing, gnashing of teeth, and rending of garments since, I don't know, the introduction of Intel macs or even the intro of OS X and the horrifying realization that you had a user account on your own computer. Jeebus, get the heck over yourselves, folks. Computing technology is a tsunami, and it always has been. You surf it or get off, but regardless of what you do it moves inexorably forward. No one is going to come stomp on your old Macs to render them inoperable the moment 10.7 comes out, and it's not APPLE making Adobe write Flash plugins that don't work with PPC macs or OS 9, etc etc etc. Someone on this list who hasn't bought a new Mac in a decade has no grounds to bitch and moan...you're literally looking for a free ride. This is the very thing that's made Microsoft the lumbering dinosaur it is, having to provide that free ride to the folks still running Windows NT 2000 and such. If you don't like it there are alternatives: Windows, Linux, Chrome, just getting by on older Macs, but don't come here wailing about Apple becoming your overlord and locking you down and denying you your right to the latest and greatest goodies on your 6-year-old Mac. You just sound like whiny brats with exaggerated senses of entitlement. If you don't like what Apple is doing, vote with your wallet. Vote with your feet. This is how to effectively do it. Wailing on and on about how Steve Jobs is oppressing you and shackling you into slavery is more suited to the 'Leeeave Britney Aloone style of youtube drama. Good grief: a rational and well-expressed argument. Yes, I was happy with my early 2005 G5 dual 2.0. Then I found it essential to run CS5, and to become experienced with Snow Leopard. So I have a 2009 MacPro. Best beloved has the G5 now, and it is so far, more than adequate for her needs. I will continue with my MacPro as long as it is viable:- note, viable not feasible. This takes into account time spent on 'maintenance', speed of operation and compatibility with my employer's Macs, for which I have assumed responsibility (IT are scared, if it isn't Windows...). If I only perused the web, wrote the odd letter etc., I could still be running my old Beige G3 Panther, but although there are always new developments to which my initial reaction is not ecstatic, it usually isn't too long before a bit of lateral thinking shows me where it can be of great use to me. Jaguar, BMW or any other prestige motor manufacturer does not stay in business by ensuring they have a sub £5,000 offering, or that their newest model has most of its components interchangeable with those in a 2002 model. Yes, that might seem harsh to many of those of more modest means - believe me, acquiring my MacPro entailed lots of sacrifices - some still ongoing. But overall, it is and will continue to be worth it. Just my 2 pennyworth Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Just purchased used g5 mac
From: R 2 gpride1...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 19 October, 2010 4:57:07 Subject: Just purchased used g5 mac Hello all- I just bought a used g 5 mac! It has Leopard os, lists as 7.3? (what's this mean) with 2 GB Ram and dual ppcs at 2.0 Ghz. Also,2 HDDs with 250 GB each. Is this a good machine-reliable? Any known issues besides capacitors on motherboard? Seems reasonably fast even by today's standards, but what improvements would be best. Has no OS disk-should I purchase Leopard or Tiger disks. Got it cheap and love the aluminum, full tower case, but it's a beast to lift. Please educate about this neat mac. Previous macs:mac mini, mac book, emac, imac and adored them all! Thanks! Love the macs! Lambert Z Nice Mac. I have an early 2005 dual 2.0, which I've only just let best-beloved have, as I bought an ex-demo 2009 MacPro - only bought as it is essential that I run CS5. The G5 could do with more memory, and it will run Leopard sweetly. Mine has 10.5.8 - no problems. See it's full specs at everymac.com The biggest bugbear (IMHO) with G5 Macs is the possibility of leakage in liquid-cooled Macs - don't worry, yours isn't liquid-cooled. Unless you suddenly develop an urgent need to run the latest versions of commercial software (e.g. Adobe Creative Suite) your G5 will keep you happy for quite some time. Enjoy. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: VGA video card for Power Mac G3?
From: Heather Cotter heather.cot...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 14 October, 2010 6:49:54 Subject: Re: VGA video card for Power Mac G3? Out of curiosity, what IS the max RAM it can handle? I've heard up to 768MB, but some sites say something like 384MB, which is obviously quite a difference! Thanks, Heather I have 768MB in my G3 - the 384 limit was quoted when the biggest stick available was 128MB. Some sites never updated their info. Although PC66 is specified, it will happily run with PC100, which is what I still have in my G3 Minitower, now rarely used... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS
From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Cc: Dana Collins dncoll...@tayloru.edu Sent: Monday, 11 October, 2010 3:43:13 Subject: Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS On 10/10/10 8:21 PM, Arnel Tuazon of a.tua...@gmail.com sent On 10/10/10 10:34 AM, M Christol chris...@fuse.net wrote: I downloaded a VIDEO_TS and cannot get it to DVD. Tried Disk Utility tried hdiutil makehybrid -udf-volume-name NAME -o ~/Desktop/name.iso ~/Desktop Apple DVD Player will launch but not play disk both ways. Sony DVD player says it's unsupported both ways. The VOB files play in VLC on Mac but not Fedora Core Any ideas? I have ffmpegx iDVD. I guess I could convert everything to .movs, string 'em together use iDVD. thanks I use Toast (v.6 - it's old but works great!). step1: Create a new folder and name it whatever you want step2: place your VIDEO_TS folder in this new folder step3: if you want audio, you'll need to create another folder inside the folder you created in step1. Name this new folder AUDIO_TS. Just a re-cap, you will create a new folder and name it whatever you want. In this folder you'll have 2 folders: your VIDEO_TS folder and an empty folder called AUDIO_TS. step4: start Toast and choose DATA. Make sure you're in ADVANCE mode and choose type DVD-ROM (UDF) from the left side pannel step5: drag your folder that has both the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folder onto the main window of Toast (it should say Drag files and folders into this area). step6: click the red burn button and follow the rest of the instructions on the screen. Arnel, As succinct and clear a summary of Toast procedure as I've ever seen. Bravo! Dana Except in Toast 6, I always select Video, then on the left panel choose DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS This gives you the option of selecting NTSC or PAL, and in Toast 8 or later, you also have the option to compress to fit on a standard single-layer blank DVD, if your VIDEO_TS folder 4.7GB Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS
Brian Fuelleman wrote: Is there a way to adjust the volume on files prior to burning them to DVD? I have some old VHS recordings of some classes/lessons I would like to convert to DVD, but the audio level in the original is quite low. Roxio's conversion setup says that you can not alter the sound levels, but recording stuff where it will be a major strain to pick up the audio every time I wish to view these disks seems to be a ridiculous choice with todays technology. Is there a better way to go than with Roxio's software and hardware? I want to create DVD's that I can play on any DVD player or computer/platform (that has a DVD player). I have Toast 10 platinum on my G5, but I also have a couple of Quick silvers and a few older and smaller Mac's too. My first thought would be to convert the video to mp4, then load it into iMovie. I've hardly used iMovie, but I think it should allow you to tweak the volume level, then burn a generic video with iDVD. I'll look into it when I have a spare bit of time report back. You'll probably see lots of definitive replies in the meantime, though. Ted *From:* Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com *To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Mon, October 11, 2010 12:41:33 AM *Subject:* Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS *From:* Dana Collins dlcatft...@frontier.com *To:* g3-5-list@googlegroups.com *Cc:* Dana Collins dncoll...@tayloru.edu *Sent:* Monday, 11 October, 2010 3:43:13 *Subject:* Re: How to burn VIDEO_TS On 10/10/10 8:21 PM, Arnel Tuazon of a.tua...@gmail.com mailto:a.tua...@gmail.com sent On 10/10/10 10:34 AM, M Christol chris...@fuse.net mailto:chris...@fuse.net wrote: I downloaded a VIDEO_TS and cannot get it to DVD. Tried Disk Utility tried hdiutil makehybrid -udf-volume-name NAME -o ~/Desktop/name.iso ~/Desktop Apple DVD Player will launch but not play disk both ways. Sony DVD player says it's unsupported both ways. The VOB files play in VLC on Mac but not Fedora Core Any ideas? I have ffmpegx iDVD. I guess I could convert everything to .movs, string 'em together use iDVD. thanks I use Toast (v.6 - it's old but works great!). step1: Create a new folder and name it whatever you want step2: place your VIDEO_TS folder in this new folder step3: if you want audio, you'll need to create another folder inside the folder you created in step1. Name this new folder AUDIO_TS. Just a re-cap, you will create a new folder and name it whatever you want. In this folder you'll have 2 folders: your VIDEO_TS folder and an empty folder called AUDIO_TS. step4: start Toast and choose DATA. Make sure you're in ADVANCE mode and choose type DVD-ROM (UDF) from the left side pannel step5: drag your folder that has both the VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folder onto the main window of Toast (it should say Drag files and folders into this area). step6: click the red burn button and follow the rest of the instructions on the screen. Arnel, As succinct and clear a summary of Toast procedure as I've ever seen. Bravo! Dana Except in Toast 6, I always select Video, then on the left panel choose DVD-Video from VIDEO_TS This gives you the option of selecting NTSC or PAL, and in Toast 8 or later, you also have the option to compress to fit on a standard single-layer blank DVD, if your VIDEO_TS folder 4.7GB Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: MDD G4 Power Supply variations
James Morgan wrote: I bought one MDD G4, found I needed a second one, bought the second one a couple or three months later. Thereafter I used them both, side by side, rather heavily. So both received virtually the same use and they are almost the same age. I put in new battery backups to address the possibilities you raised. Some have suggested that the 400 W power supply was brought out as a quieter system to address G4 noise complaints? I am considering scrapping these G4's because used power supplies on eBay are costing close to $150.00 with shipping. These power supplies have a poor service record and a used one is a risky investment. I presume that new ones are going to cost more than the G4's are worth? National Ram Electronics will repair G4 power supplies for $90.00 each and that seems to be the minimum cost to put the G4's back in service. Or you could convert generic ATX PSUs to work:- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xICg592xJTg HTH Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Power Macintosh G3/266 tabletop
Paul Cefola wrote: I have some questions regarding a Power Mac G3/266 machine. Is this the correct group to ask the questions to? Paul Certainly is: Fire away. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about Power Mac G3/266 tabletop
Original Message Subject:Re: Question about Power Mac G3/266 tabletop Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:43:36 +0100 From: Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com Reply-To: ted.tr...@btinternet.com To: Paul Cefola paulc...@buffalo.edu Paul Cefola wrote: Gents, I have a G3/266 tabletop which is running Mac OS 8.5.1. This machine was purchased by me during the fall of 1997. There were on the order of 20 system extensions that loaded during the start-up process.. The machine has some old files on it which are valuable to me -- both for my consulting work and also personal data. Recently I had the G3 keyboard go bad with the symptom that the Mac froze after the extensions started to load. Currently I have replaced the keyboard and have gotten the machine to boot while holding the shift key down (disabling the extensions). Since I have not changed the extensions for a long time, I suspect that I corrupted one of the extensions. My question is what do i do next to return this machine to a usable state? I am writing this on a Windows Vista machine. Thanks. Paul Cefola Well Paul, the first think to do is to make backup copies of those valuable files. Then, just to be sure, and to satisfy any feelings of paranoiac tendencies, make another backup. Put the backups somewhere very safe!!! Now, IIRC from my pre-OSX days, the way of identifying rogue extensions was to start up with shift held down, as you did, and look in the system folder for a folder called 'Extensions (Disabled)' or something very similar. Drag that to the desktop, rename it to 'Suspect Extensions' and then start up as normal. The system will automatically recreate an empty folder in the System folder called 'Extensions (Disabled)'. Adding the extensions in the 'Suspect Extensions' back one by one (just drop them onto the System folder;- the OS will recognise them as Extensions offer to put them in the 'Extensions' folder) and restarting each time will generally show which one is causing the grief. This is tedious, but you can instead add half the suspect extensions - if it freezes, you can be fairly sure the villain is in that half. Restart with shift again, and just the ones you've added should then be in the 'Extensions (Disabled)' folder. Doing it in 'halves' can be misleading in the rare possibility you've got more than one extension gone bad. Also be aware that OS8 OS9 treat fonts as system extensions, and a corrupt font can a) give all sorts of nasty problems, and b) be the devil's own job to track down. Keep us informed ask again if there's anything you're not sure of. HTH, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: External Fax Modem for G5
From: Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com To: G-List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 23 September, 2010 5:31:38 Subject: RE: External Fax Modem for G5 Hey folks, I have a late 2005 2.3GHz dual core G5. I wanted to get a fax modem for it and was told that my only option was for an external USB modem. However, I have read that my current OS (10.5.8) does not play well with external modems and that the built-in Fax software of OS X will not recognize external fax modems. Is this true? What are my other fax options? Thanks in advance! ___ Well, I put an Apple USB modem on my early '05 G5 dual 2.0, (10.5.8) and it works fine. Haven't tried it with my new MacPro yet (10.6.4) but as Best Beloved has 'claimed' the G5, I might just leave it where it is. Apple USB modems are often found on eBay. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New install of OS 10.4 on G5 iMac
Are they all the same model/processor speed? I think some machine specific disks are that specific. No, they are not tied to a machine's serial number. Len When I bought them they were all IMACG5 20/2.0GHZ/512/250 (Straight off the receipt from Apple) I have replaced a couple of hard drives, but they're still the same machines. I have not encountered this problem before. I found a third set of the original install disks, and they're not working either. Can I install to an external hard drive (enclosure) and cheese the iMac into accepting it that way? Just a thought:- if in the time you've had these iMacs, they have had any firmware updates through Software Update, that might render their original O/S cds not installable... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Water Cooler Power Mac G5
James Morgan wrote: Thanks for all the replies concerning the liquid cooled g5's. They were very helpful. I have a g5 and, turns out, it is air cooled. However, I am thinking of buying an air cooled 2ghz g5 to replace my 1.25 ghz MDD g4. Does anyone know if I can simply take the hard drives out of the g4 and move them to the g5? 'Fraid not: The G4's internal interface is ATA/100, the G5 is SATA. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Repairing permissions
On Sep 3, 2010, at 3:14 AM, ainsies wrote: G'day to all Have recently learned that repairing permissions on Tiger takes 48 seconds, on the same machine Leopard takes 56 minutes, can anyone let me know of the reason for tthe huge difference in times ? I have an iMag G5, 20 inch, 2.0GB ram, 2.0Ghz cpu, 250 GB HDD, running both Tiger Leopard Many Thanks - ainsies They're different operating systems. There are different files, different permissions, and a different quantity of files. A more important question is why are you timing this and why is 8 seconds something to be losing sleep over? Add a few user accounts, some complex programs, several hundred thousand user files, and some age to your installation and watch the time it takes to perform a scan rise significantly. i think the difference between 48 SECONDS and 56 MINUTES is more than 8 seconds. I can't remember the timings on my G5 dual when I had one disk at 10.5.8, and the other with 10.4.11 (to run Classic mode). I've ceased needing the OS9 apps, so Tiger's been given an honourable retirement now. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?
From: John Martz zjo...@yahoo.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, 26 August, 2010 6:33:08 Subject: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ? On Aug 25, 2010, at 8:33 PM, Robert Long texasche...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello group, I got a G4 and tonight I plugged it in to see if it will work. No chime but a screen with a folder and a ? then a happy face. Not the mac face. Any ideas. I am not too hep on this stuff. If it doesn't have a fatal problem or such I would like to get it up and running. Hopefully someone who actually knows something about G4s will respond. Are you sure that (1) there is a hard drive in your system and (2) that the drive contains a bootable install of OS X? The folder with a ? I would guess might be an icon to indicate no file system ... perhaps? -irrational john Irrational John is perfectly rational - and correct. That is indeed what this means. The chime tells you its initial hardware test has deemed all to be OK, and the folder with the ? means it can't find a file system from which to boot. The chime by the way, doesn't mean it's checked for the presence of a hard disk. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G4 with no chime but instead folder with ?
Gus wrote: The Chime usually comes up pretty early in the P.O.S.T. Long before it goes out and checks for the system. I would start to wonder if there wasn't an audio issue You can try reseting the pram and listing for additional chimes and see if you here them.. I would suspect that if the original startup chime isn't heard, neither will be the ones for the pram reset... But the screen should turn off and on as you hold it down and it cycles through each reset. Do you have the system CD/DVD you could try to boot off of?? Gus. Resetting PRAM is a good idea. The chime will have been muted IF the last owner/user set the Mac's sound volume to mute. This also silences the system chime. Resetting PRAM will turn volume setting back to default, then if there's still no chime, the cause lies elsewhere. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth replacement
From: Geke gevangaste...@googlemail.com To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 16 August, 2010 12:40:33 Subject: Re: Sawtooth replacement I do think a MDD will last you at least two years, but you’re the only one who can decide... Here a few thoughts: - MDDs support harddisks larger than 128GB (without extra hard- or software). - They are nicknamed windtunnel, meaning that they are rather noisy. An MDD also leaves you some cash for upgrades: - MDDs have only USB 1.1, so you may want to add a USB2 PCI card. (Or use FireWire, for free.) Alternatively, I have a dual 2.0GHz early 2005 G5 with two HDs in it, one with 10.5.8 for everyday use, and one with 10.4.11 for using Classic. Trouble-free in the 2yrs+ I've had it. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth freeze
ah...clem wrote: On Aug 12, 9:31 pm, Midnight ridercoolmar...@gmail.com wrote: Don't ever plug in a monitor bigger than 17 in a card that is less than 32MB, because you won't like the performance at all, and it might freeze. That used to happen to me when I had my 23 dell plugged into my ATI rage 128 pro card. If you need a new card, send me a private email. i ran 19 and 21 monitors on PCI macs w/ as little as 4MB VRAM, and had no problems whatsoever in OS9. i currently run 19+ monitors on Rage128Pro cards w/ 16MB VRAM, and have zero problems w/ 10.4.11, and i too watch DVD's full screen mode without the slightest glitch. however, video cards can go bad, and may give symptoms similar to those described. or someone may have improperly set the preferences under monitors in system preferences. I ran my 19 Mitsubishi CRT on my beige G3 (OS 9.2 and 10.3) with IIRC 6MB VRAM, and then on my Sawtooth (10.4) with the stock card in it without problem. It's currently on my (Leopard) dualG5 @ 1344 x 1008 - 75Hz although the G5 has a 256MB 9650 in it. I'm passing the G5 next week to Best Beloved, and I've got her a Samsung 2050 LCD to save on desk space. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Sawtooth freeze
Midnight rider wrote: dude! 256MB ATI Radeon 9650! Show me where I could get that! -- Sent from my PM G4 Sawtooth It's anyway, anyhow, anywhere you choose it. -Me Can't say:- I bought this early 2005 G5 dual 2.0 about 2 years ago, and all I've done is upped the RAM to 4GB, replaced the 160GB drive with 1 x 750GB and 1 x 320GB. I believe the 256MB 9650 was standard on the 2.7DP G5, but how one ended up in my June 2005 2.0DP, I don't know. The seller certainly didn't point it out, and I was (pleasant;y) surprised to find out when I got it home thoroughly checked it out. About This Mac reports:- ATI Radeon 9650: Chipset Model:ATY,RV351 Type:Display Bus:AGP Slot:SLOT-1 VRAM (Total):256 MB Vendor:ATI (0x1002) Device ID:0x4150 Revision ID:0x ROM Revision:113-A58503-115 Displays: 90e: Resolution:1344 x 1008 @ 75 Hz Depth:32-Bit Color Core Image:Hardware Accelerated Main Display:Yes Mirror:Off Online:Yes Quartz Extreme:Supported Rotation:Supported Display Connector: Status:No Display Connected As I have to run CS5, I've had to buy an early 2010 MacPro Nehalem, 2 x 2.26, which is coming with 8GB RAM, 3 x 1TB drives (the 750GB is going in the 4th bay) and it's already been upgraded to the Radeon 4870, and still has more than 2Yrs Applecare on it. I'll be using a dual LCD screen set-up on the Pro, a NEC 23 H-IPS for main screen with a cheap Dell 17 LCD just to put InDesign's multitude of palettes on. The NEC was the only completely brand new item I bought. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9 Apps on G5
Les wrote: Hi, I just received a PowerPC G5 1.8 DP desktop tower running OS X 10.4.11. I would like to run some old Apps like Hypercard and Final Cut Pro 2.0 on this machine. Do I need to install OS 9? Is this possible? Thanks Yes, 10.4 will support OS9 classic (10.5 won't) so you'll need to instal OS9. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Yikes G4, Can The Computer Chime and still have a Bad CPU?
pdimage wrote: On 20/7/10 08:19, Gusgusr...@comcast.net wrote: BUT!!! I am smart enough to know that I don't know everything. Is there something I am missing with this G4 - G4 swap? Thanks. For grins, I did drop the system clock from 400.. then up to 500 No change with the 500 mhz g4, Still chimes, no video No mention of the bus multipliers for the 100mhz bus - presumably the 450 cpu will have 4.5x and the 500 cpu will have 5x - or is that included with the system clock fiddling? Pete CUDA button? Usually needed after most new H/W, but certainly after a CPU swap... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: plain text please
Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Metered service? Who has metered service? The UK? If that is the only thing available that is what you go with but then why bother at all. A phone call would be preferable. And hopefully the post office is still around. Most of us in the UK are on ADSL or Cable (available in metropolitan areas). Only a relatively few rural areas still have no option but dial-up, although that should change over the next 2 - 5 years. Speaking as a graphic designer, I keep graphics for commercial use - where they have a valid purpose - and use plain text for communication. Too much eye-candy, and recipients notice the messenger and not the message. Just my pennyworth, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: CPU Temp?
From: Daniel Stewart daniel.stewart...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 30 June, 2010 7:45:02 Subject: Re: CPU Temp? I tried this. This app and every other one I have tried do not give CPU temp for my Quicksilver, only HDD temp. On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Steve Thompson macg4.st...@googlemail.com wrote: On 20/06/2010 03:01, Ricardo Sevilla wrote: Hello all. I have a quick question. Does any one know of an application that monitors cpu temp? OR, does anyone know how or where I can find this information? The reason being is I have a Cpu upgrade in my Quicksilver and wanted to see how much of a difference the supplied fans cooled the cpu. I have a few modifications in mind to try to minimize the noise while retaining the temps at a minimum. Any one have any ideas on how they cooled their Quicksilvers or G4s? Thanks in advance. I use Temperature Monitor from Marcel Bresink on my G4 1GHZ it displays the system Temp and SMART status in the taskbar. http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html Steve This software will return the CPU temperature only if the CPU was built with a sensor contained therein. It can't report a sensor reading if there is no sensor there. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Burn .mkv file to DVD
Dan wrote: At 7:01 AM -0700 6/23/2010, John Carmonne wrote: I have a movie that's a .mkv file 4.46 GBs I want to burn it to a DVD but I can't get Toast 10 to see it as an image I also tried Toast 8 and 6 still no cigar. Is this spometing I can do? An easier but probably longer way way to convert .MKV for a 'MAC' user is to use QuickTime- but you need to have installed Perian - http://www.perian.org/ then play your .MKV in QuickTime player - wait until player has read the whole file (see grey progress bar immediately below video frame itself): at which point you can go to File/save as and save it to your preference - depending on your Mac this could be a long job - but you can save it to something (e.g. .AVI, or .MOV, or MP4) recognisable by Toast or easily converted by your video converter of choice (e.g. MPEG Streamclip, Video Converter etc.) Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple Store closed for update
Looks like new toys coming... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Store closed for update
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010 11:56:34 Subject: Re: Apple Store closed for update On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Looks like new toys coming... 2.4 GHz Mini with HDMI. And user friendly RAM slot. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer Yup, seen the details already. Just wondered if the Store update was indicative of revamped Mac Pro systems, maybe 10.6.4 or one or two other goodies, as well... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text
From: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 14 June, 2010 4:45:38 Subject: Re: Will PowerPC be forever obsolete?/ RICH Text On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Dennis Myhand dmyh...@suddenlink.net wrote: Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote: Why there is not a basic computer practices class I do not understand. I have tried to teach that very class for the last 7 years. Most of my students could not care less about what I am talking about. They are there to fulfill the state requirements for a technology class and once they achieve that, they have no idea what you have talked about, because they have already forgotten it. In 7 years of teaching I have had 4 students say they have used something I taught them in a college class they had later in life. The vast majority of my students are convinced that they already know all there is to know about using a computer and they have no intention of learning more. Rarely do I get a student who is actually wanting to learn. Most of the time I get the student who tells me there is no way Ohm's Law will work. Peace, Dennis ___ I can understand that in an office drone paper shuffler who is on the IT lockout track. But media types of all persuasions who enter small or freelance operations and ignore the need of CPU and network system practices will be a burden to their bosses and may not last long. Production deadlines for customers leave no time for rookie mistakes. -- Adrian D'Alessio aka; Fluxstringer You're right in what you say, but at least here in the UK, stereotypes - at least in the bosses' eyes - still rule. I was a techie/systems programmer back in the seventies/early eighties, in the days of wood-burning, steam-powered computers. I switched allegiance to Macs in the mid eighties, and have remained a Mac techie ever since. As a frustrated artist, and keen photographer, I found the whole Mac experience tremendous, so I became a user as well, rather than a pure techie. I am still, despite having just turned 60, a graphic designer in a large company which is very Windows orientated (despite most of IT dep't having a Mac at home). IT leave it to me to look after our small establishment of 5 Macs, which is no great hassle, and I still enjoy stretching CS5 (just received) and CS3 to the limit;- well, it's more a case of exploring all of it's capabilities, rather than stretching them. But people still seem amazed to find a designer who knows, understands loves Macs - or from the other point of viw, a techie who knows, understands loves design, typography c. Seems they've got it fixed in their heads you can be one or the other, bit not both. Best to all, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Opera 10.53
Stephen Conrad wrote: On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:16 AM, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net mailto:ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On May 3, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Stephen Conrad wrote: Will this version work on this machine? According to this it should work, although notice it comes in both a Universal (IntelPPC) version and an Intel-Only version: http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/793/ It didn't launch for me on a PPC G5 with 10.5.8. Strangely, it DID launch from the mounted .dmg, but not when it's been copied to Applications. I saw these messages in Console when I attempt to launch from Applications: 5/3/10 1:57:40 AM com.apple.launchd[206] ([0x0-0x1593592].com.operasoftware.OperaUpdate[39758]) Exited with exit code: 1 5/3/10 2:04:59 AM com.apple.launchd[206] ([0x0-0x159a599].com.operasoftware.OperaUpdate[39789]) posix_spawnp(/Users/~/Library/Caches/Opera/2805502960/Update.app/Contents/MacOS/Update, ...): Permission denied For me, the solution was to go to: /Users/~/Library/Caches/ and trash the Opera folder. Once I trashed this cache file, it launched normally for me. You may also have Preferences folders that could be causing problems, they'd be in: /Users/~/Library/Preferences Weird. I have an early 2005 G5 Dual2.0, 4GB RAM, 2 x 32oGB Seagates, OS is System Software Overview: System Version:Mac OS X 10.5.8 (9L30) Kernel Version:Darwin 9.8.0 Boot Volume:MacHD Boot Mode:Normal Computer Name:TedsG5 User Name:Ted Treen (tedtreen) Time since boot:26 minutes I use Opera as my default browser:- About Opera reports:- *About Opera Version information* Version10.53 Build8343 PlatformMac OS X System10.5.8 Browser identification Opera/9.80 (Macintosh; PPC Mac OS X; U; en) Presto/2.5.24 Version/10.53 Paths Preferences/Users/tedtreen/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/operaprefs.ini Saved session/Users/tedtreen/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/sessions/autopera.win Bookmarks/Users/tedtreen/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/bookmarks.adr Opera directory/Users/tedtreen/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/ Cache/Users/tedtreen/Library/Caches/Opera/cache/ Help documents/Users/tedtreen/Library/Caches/Opera/opcache/ Mail directory/Users/tedtreen/Library/Application Support/Opera/mail/ Plug-in path/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ User CSS directory/Users/tedtreen/Library/Preferences/Opera Preferences/styles/user/ Third parties -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Question about Tiger DVD Install Disc???
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I know Apple decided to trust it's users, but the thing is, If they only provide one license when you buy a DVD (let's say it's OS X SL), why does it still allow you to install even though the license was only supposed to be used once? Pray tell me how in God's name you're going to add an installation counter to a pressed read-only CD/DVD? Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Digitizing ?
Find someone with an old OS9 system who also has a copy of Adobe Streamline, import the picture, and then tidy it up in Illustrator. (Unless you fancy loading image into Illustrator, opening a new layer, then tracing it. Doesn't like like it would be too much of a job. Ted From: DAN A CURRIE danc...@frontiernet.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 21 April, 2010 12:59:48 Subject: Digitizing ? Hello All, I have an old U S Army patch that I would like to print on t-shirts for our small group. How do I convert a picture, scan of a cloth patch into a strictly digitized image with smooth likes and such like this. Thanks for the help and sorry about the images but it was easier to show you exactly what I needed!! Dan II -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group?
View from the UK, FWIW. Given a choice, I'll stick with the email format. I do visit certain forums, and participate therein; but the format of; the people belonging to; and the education received from this list greatly exceeds the value of all the forums put together. Just my two pennyworth. Ted From: John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 19 April, 2010 13:02:44 Subject: Re: Is there usenet interface possible for this group? On Apr 19, 2010, at 4:53 AM, diane wrote: At 1:50 AM -0400 4/19/10, Dan wrote: At 11:43 PM -0400 4/18/2010, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: or we could have a forums site. To be honest, going pure forums is a deal breaker with me. Ditto. No forums for me, hate them. Email is great, it all comes here and I can filter it to separate it. Forums I have to go to individually and I've had one too many crash on me taking valuable data. My.02 Diane If it works why fix it? Took me a while to get used to the lists, they're much better than those non responsive forum web sites, here you can get answers from knowledgeable folks fast and not have to wait for days till someone reads the forum. The lists are truly interactive. A consolidation of some may be OK but I belong to all of them so I get most of the postings I'm interested in Forums are for chatters IMHO:-( John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Safari unexpected quits on iMac g3
Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I happen to also have a Graphite g3 iMac 600Mhz, so I can help here. If the program is quitting unexpectedly, try making sure that you aren't running too many programs at once. Also, update safari to version 4.0.3 using the software update program in system preferences. I have had the same problem before i got my firmware updated, and before i packed in a gig of RAM. now, it's flawlessly running tiger. Go to the software update and check to see if you need a firmware update or upgrade. If so, it will only take a few minutes to do so. If you can't see an upgrade for the firmware in the iMac, try booting into Mac OS 9. Mac OS 9 was the only was my iMac was able to properly install the firmware update. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list All of the foregoing, BUT:- 256MB is nowhere near enough to run 10.4 in a happy stable manner. 512MB is marginal, too. Safari has long been a memory leaker (IIRC that applied to Safari 3 as well as 4). Your iMac will support 1GB RAM. You can use pc133 as well as pc100, but it will only work at 100 speeds, although it's easier (and cheaper) to find. I would recommend you max out the RAM. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: EDIT: A good and cheap video card
Stewie de Young wrote: The Radeon 9800 series are about the best value for money. The nvidias are faster ( 6800 and 7800s ) but also quite a bit more expensive too. I have a MDD with a flashed 9800XT - 256mb and while a hot running card , it is a good performer. If you go this route , remove the original fan that came on these 9800s and boost it up to something better. These cards burn out a lot as the original fans were quite poor and prone to failure leading to the videocards being fried. Stewie Absolutely right:- I had a 9800 in my heavily upgraded Sawtooth (SATA Card, OWC 1.5gig CPU etc.,) and it ran VERY hot, with the card packing up after some 7 or 8 weeks. ATI (or rather, AMD) replaced it eventually, but with a 128 MB model, not a 256MB as I returned, but with all the hassle of to-ing and fro-ing the card between the UK Canada, I didn't bother to argue with them. Picked up my current G5 dual 2.0 a few weeks later at a good price - which I've done nothing to, other than fit the SATA card, with an eSATA backplane, and max the RAM to 4GB. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Odd message is System Log
Hi All, On my G5 Early 2005 Dual 2.0, 4GB RAM, 10.5.8, an odd message has recently appeared in the System Log (after Startup) , viewed through Console. Message is repeated many times (between 6 and 20+ ish) and reads:- Mar 21 16:29:37 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Is this indicative of a problem I should be solving? Thanks Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: Odd message is System Log
Dan wrote: At 4:35 PM + 3/21/2010, Ted Treen wrote: G5 Early 2005 Dual 2.0, 4GB RAM, 10.5.8 Message is repeated many times (between 6 and 20+ ish) and reads:- Mar 21 16:29:37 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Is this indicative of a problem I should be solving? Just repeated in one block, or over and over at later times? Were there any network outtages at the time? Sleep/wake cycles? Try reseating your ethernet cables. - Dan. Hi Dan, Thanks for responding. The message is repeated constantly - timed intervals vary between 40 seconds and sometimes as much as 10 mins. No network problems (1 Mac connected to ethernet router for ADSL) No sleep/wake cycles. Have reseated all cables - and even tried others. I'm stumped. It doesn't appear to cause any other problems except for v. large log files, which Onyx deals with... Ted Last 15 minutes syslog below: Mar 21 17:59:28 TedsG5 [0x0-0x4b04b].com.adobe.Acrobat.Pro[0]: 100321 17:59:28 [Note] /Applications/Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional/Adobe Acrobat Professional.app/Contents/MacOS/mysqld: Shutdown complete Mar 21 18:00:45 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:01:45 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:03:01 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:03:50 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:04:45 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:08:05 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:11:51 TedsG5 Finder[110]: CGImageCreate: invalid image size: 0 x 0. Mar 21 18:11:51 TedsG5 [0x0-0xb00b].com.apple.finder[110]: Sun Mar 21 18:11:51 TedsG5.local Finder[110] Error: CGImageCreate: invalid image size: 0 x 0. Mar 21 18:12:06 TedsG5 Finder[110]: NSOpenGLAutoscaleBounds=NO Mar 21 18:13:47 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:15:49 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:18:04 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:24:51 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:28:08 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:29:02 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:30:15 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:31:10 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:33:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:38:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:38:34 TedsG5 [0x0-0x1b01b].org.mozilla.seamonkey[3398]: deliver mode: 7 Mar 21 18:39:06 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:39:56 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:41:06 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:42:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:43:14 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:48:05 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:50:11 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:52:19 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:53:56 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:56:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 18:58:09 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 19:02:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 19:03:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 19:04:55 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 19:06:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 19:07:00 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver Mar 21 19:08:59 TedsG5 kernel[0]: { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words REMOVE ME as the subject.
Re: 10.5 on a G5
John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Ted Treen wrote: John Carmonne wrote: On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Trickster wrote: Hey guys, Everyone was a big help on my last post about moving a hard drive, thank you much for everything. Wanted to get peoples opinions on running 10.5 on a G5 1.8, 7 gigs of ram 160 gig HD. Opinion on the net seems to be mixed, with some saying is great, others saying is bad, some saying it gets better as the OS is updated. Does anyone have any personal experience with this? Thanks again Peter AFAIK all is OK for 10.5.8 on the PM G5 but I've never been able to rip a DVD on any PPC with Leopard 10.5.8. So for my goto I choose Tiger on PPCs. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA The problem almost certainly is not specific to the PPC 10.5.8 - it's far more likely that your versions of ripping S/W and/or Toast are not supported under Leopard. IIRC, there were several S/W packages which became less-than-useful after the release of 10.5. Ted Negetory, all my rippers MTR, MDRP, and Ripit work on Intel 10.5.8, 10.6.2 and PPC 10.4.11, the only combo that doesn't work is PPC 10.5.8, Anyone that can do it please tell me how. I've been at this for a long time:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA I'm using MTR 3.0 R14F (and MTR 2.6.6 occasionally) on my Dual 2.0G5, 10.5.8, and it just works. Toast 8 crashes sometimes in Leopard, but Toast 9 seems fine. I'm not doing anything special - they just seem to work. Some time ago, the Mac seemed slow, or buggy, so I used Applejack in deep clean mode. and things seemed better after that. Although I accept that YMMV. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New keyboard verses Old Tiger
From: Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, 16 February, 2010 23:09:35 Subject: Re: New keyboard verses Old Tiger On Feb 16, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: There's been firmware updates for these keyboards, which implies that they're NOT just dumb collection of switches. Shouldn't we suspect the NSA has something to do with this? A keystroke logger in every keyboard perhaps? They say during the first Gulf War the Iranians were using a computer printer with hacked firmware that sent all of Saddam Hussein's orders directly to us over the internet. I'm sure being able to monitor individual keyboards attached to the internet could easily be interpreted as a matter of national security also. FGS I hope the Brit government don't see this:- We're already the most surveilled society on Earth, and just carrying a camera (even my old Nikon F4 35mm system) is sufficient to get you shaken down by the cops on spurious anti-terrorist crap due to abuse of their oppresasive powers, and their draconian powers to spy on emails and cellphone traffic would make the Stasi jealous. Once arrested, your DNA stays on their database even if you're never charged with any offence. They took 1984 as a guidebook, not a warning. However, I can't really see Apple going along with this - Jobs has always been tending towards the libertarian rather than authoritative government. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Some smarter people than I comment about Flash...
From: Stewie de Young stewies...@hotmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, 1 February, 2010 23:57:05 Subject: RE: Some smarter people than I comment about Flash... Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:55:57 + From: ted.tr...@btinternet.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Some smarter people than I comment about Flash... Bruce Johnson wrote: YGAC??? WTF IS YGAC? Yours curiously, Ted (in England) Here in Sydney Australia , we're in midsummer so I took YGAC to mean You Got Air Conditioning ? I could be wrong though Stewie You Got Air Conditioning? Cool! OK, I'll get my coat. Ted (still in England) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Some smarter people than I comment about Flash...
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 31, 2010, at 4:52 PM, Mark wrote: SVG, OGG, MP4, Mozilla Bruce Johnson wrote: Two Johns: Gruber and Welch take on the Flash issue, both germane to discussions we've had here recently regarding crappy online video... OMG WTF??!! YGAC, ROFL YGAC??? WTF IS YGAC? Yours curiously, Ted (in England) -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: shut down pop-up
From: Kasey Smith kasm...@gmail.com To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, 22 January, 2010 13:40:55 Subject: Re: shut down pop-up On Jan 22, 2010, at 6:39 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:56 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: On Jan 21, 2010, at 4:08 PM, Mac User #330250 wrote: *LOL* Then don't try the Control-Option-Command-F12 combination... Doesn't work on my Apple Al KB ... as per David Pogue ... control-option-command-eject will cause Shut Down (with no Dialogue Box) Doesn't work on a windows keyboard either... Yet it works on our (white) keyboard on a G5, Black Pro keyboard on a G4, and AL keyboard on a Mac Pro... Just tried it on each... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs?
Sorry, I came late to this thread. Original question - Why are you (still) using PowerPC-based Macs? Multiple answer(s): 1) Wife won't let me buy a Mac Pro - she thinks things like housing, food etc are a priority. 2) Even if wife were in agreement with idea, bank manager wouldn't be. 3) Using Office2008 (of necessity) and Adobe CS3 under Leopard, it works as well as it ever did. Sure, the Mac Pro would be faster, but that doesn't mean my dual 2.0 G5 has suddenly slowed down overnight. Unnecessary expenditure of £2,000+ would not be a great idea right now, and any extra speed is not a viable return on my spending cash I don't quite have. To enable my working from home when my employers upgrade to CS5 on its anticipated release later this year, I might have to rethink. (Before I get flamed, Adobe permit activation on two machines if not used simultaneously, and I'm never in the office AND at home at the same time). If this situation DOES arise, as it's in my employer's interests for me to have a working from home capability, I shall see what I can do to make them assist in the upgrade. (I'm 2.5hrs from work, so an extra trip in at weekends is not lightly undertaken). Until that happens, why would I need to upgrade? I agree that YMMV Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Problem: Checking Extended Attributes file
Jonas Lopez wrote: System: G4 tower with X= 10.4 and 10.2 and 9 for that matter. Decided to run using safe mode by using Apple+S at start up. At command line after the # entered /sbin/fsck -y ran just fine in 10.4 but had this problem in 10.2: . . Checking Extended Attributes file Invalid leaf record count (It should be 6 instead of 986) . . FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED followed by Volume was repaired successfully. According to the instructions, this requires A REPEAT OF THE FSCK COMMAND until fsck tells that the volume appears to be ok, first-pass repairs may uncover issues, so repeat the command. I did this 5 times but no change, still reporting 986 instead of 6. Any ideas? G4 450 MHz box with OS 8.1-9.2, X 10.2.8./ 10.4.11 AGP Graphics on a card. Both are connected by 4 port LinkSys BEFSR41. 12 Gb hd in 4Gb and 8Gb partitions and external 4Gb in 4 1Gb partitions. 470 Mb, Zip, fd, DVD/cd Drive, all are Apple branded. === Sounds like your directory is SNAFU'd. I'd recommend no further use of the system until you have run DiskWarrior - boot up from the DiskWarrior CD. Be careful to use the correct version, I'm not sure if the version that's OK for 10.4 will also be OK for 10.2. Check on DiskWarrior's website:- http://www.alsoft.com/Diskwarrior/index.html Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Double HDD stacking in G3 and G4
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 11, 2010, at 9:24 AM, Dan wrote: Data is like gas. It expands to fill all available space! YA! If there's room, I try to fill it! heh. A proper carrier is best, but in a pinch -- I use cardboard separators between the drives, to create an air flow gap, and strap 'em down with duct tape! /me peers thru the 'net to see Bruce and Clark rolling their eyes and shuddering uncontrollably! ROFL..you clearly haven't seen any of my kludges over the years, although to be honest I've never seen duct tape in use before. Be careful of air and heat flow... watch the system temp to make sure things are happy. Too true. Some folks in one of our labs added a second hard drive to their system, and lacking anyplace to mount it they carefully protected it from falling and vibration: http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/home-made_enclosure1.jpg By wrapping it in styrofoam. The broken section at the left happened when I tried to get the drive out of the foam when it failed. It was far too hot to touch when I first opened the computer and saw it. Despite years of trying, I've never yet managed to make a system idiot-proof. I HAVE, however, learned just how inventive ingenious idiots can be... Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: no video on restart on G5 Quad. Help?
Clark Martin wrote: Hal wrote: Hi all. I'm new to the group, but have been a member of some of the other LEM groups for a while. I've been having a problem with my G5 Quad that I hope I can get some insight on. It's running 10.5.8, though this problem has been consistent across OS versions. When I restart the G5, it reboots fine, but there is no video. If I use screen sharing to log in from another computer, I can see that it booted fine, but it won't send video to the DVI port on the video card. This behavior is exhibited with several DVI displays (I've tried 3), including an APple 23 Cinema display. I've also tried 2 video cards, the original PCIe 6600, as well as a flashed Radeon X1900. If I tell it to shut down, and then start it up, it works fine. When logged in remotely check System Preferences / Display and see what video mode it's trying to display in (width x heighth and vert sync speed). It's possible it is not one the monitor can display. Try changing it to something you know the monitor can handle. Also check your PRAM battery, it may be dead or dying. Clark is (as usual) correct. I would add that on many Macs (from the LC series through to G3 and G4 series) I've seen this behaviour shown when the PRAM battery is dead - most recently on our old G4 QS at work. Our IT guys (all Windows people) told the user it had a dead MoBo! I bought in a new 3.6v halfAA and bingo:- a fully functioning QS. Now they refer all Mac problems to me - or they will do, if any arise. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Upgrade my Ge
Jorge Quiroz wrote: Ok, your mac can go up to 10.4, but you'll need a retail disk (not an specific machine disk) you can put any standard IDE DVD ROM in your Power Mac( mine has a LG SuperMulti DVD Burner with dual layer support), you can get a WiFi PCI Card to connect to wifi networks, the other option is buy an WiFi USB Adapter (i bought one last year for my blueberry ibook). Greetings form Chile. Jorge. On 20, Dec, 2009, at 2:16 AM, Robert Long wrote: Hello, here is the info off my G3 My G 3 is a blue and the info on it is; CD rom and ATA hard drive, PCI slot $J12 display card, 4 MB disk cache. Virtual memory; 129 MB, Built in Memory 128 MB, backside L2 cache 512 K cache, Machine speed is 300 MHz, processor info PowerPC G3. It connects to internet via ethernet cable. It is not wifi capable yet and I want to up the memory and add a DVD drive and any other recommendations you wish to make. So if you have any info you don't mind sharing, let it fly. Thanks A and M for you response Robert Long PS thought I better add a subject line Hi, You won't get much joy from any variant of OSX with 128MB Ram: When I had a G3 Beige, 10.4 ran reasonably in 768MB - the max it would go to. Anything less than 512MB is likely to be a less-than-thrilling experience. Best. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Photo printing problem ?
glen wrote: - Original Message From: Cliff Redigerredicl...@yahoo.com ject: Photo printing problem ? MiniG4 Tiger 10.4.11 Epson Artisan50 Adobe InDesign CS2 I recently purchased an Artisan50 Epson color printer, Designed some holiday cards in InDesign printed and the photos have vertical lines. The Epson tech supporter offered patient guidance leading me through some checks and finally to print from Preview no lines there, which points to a glitch in the Adobe software. While I can work-around, I'm wondering if others have had such problems? If experience of others confirms that updated Adobe products are more widely compatible? If others might recommend an equivalent alternative ti InDesign? Sorry to hear of your problems. Adobe InDesign CS2 may have some bugs, however, I have not have had any problems with the older InDesign CS on the professional level copier/printers I use in production. At the professional level the alternative is QuarkXpress. And unless you are a dedicated Quark user most folks I know think InDesign is the best option for the present. At the office level there is MS Publisher which I think is a horror for print shops that have to deal with those files. And there is no Mac version and no way AFAIK to use a Publisher file on a Mac. MS really developed that one as anti-Mac, anti-Adobe and ant-Quark. At the level of doing personal stuff like greeting cards there may be other less expensive options. I would like to know as well. Another work around may be to simpley export the .Indd file to .pdf. If the bug is in the Epson driver (which it may be) this may solve the problem. Good luck --glen I would confirm the extport to pdf route is the best: I believe InDesign (and Quark Xpress) are at best unhappy, and at worst downright unco-operative when you print to a non-postsript device. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Looking for Older Onyx
yersi...@cybernex.net wrote: Hi Listers, Google was unable to help me find an OLDER version of Onyx. I need one to run on my G4 Mac Mini, which is and needs to stay on 10.4.2. The earliest Onyx I was able to find for Tiger required 10.4.3 minimum. I have Onyx 1.7.5 running on my Quicksilver, but the QS was on 10.4.7 or 10.4.8 back when I picked that up. I think I recall it required 10.4.7 minimum, which was and still is OK for the QS (now on 10.4.11), but I need one for the Mini. Are the Tiger versions of Onyx OK, or does anyone have a 10.4.2-minimum Onyx they can email me? Thanks! ~Yersinia. Hi Yersinia See http://www.titanium.free.fr/pgs/english/apps.html for all your Onyx needs... Best regards, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Leopard or Tiger?
I believe you'll find Tiger somewhat more responsive, but do watch for S/W (apps/utilities) requirements etc. Enjoy it Ted --- On Mon, 7/12/09, mythmaker18 mythmake...@yahoo.com wrote: From: mythmaker18 mythmake...@yahoo.com Subject: Leopard or Tiger? To: G-Group g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, 7 December, 2009, 13:41 I recently purchased a 17 1.33GHz Powerbook G4 (Aluminum) and was wondering which would be the best (as far as speed/responsiveness) OS to install on this Mac: 10.4 or 10.5? I have install discs for both. I will be moving over a 5400RPM drive and will be installing between 1.5 and 2GB of RAM. Speed is more important to me than simply being more current. Thanks for your opinions. Andy -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Mouse Question
Bruce Johnson wrote: snip That is a joystick. Yes. A joystick ON a mouse. Even Dr. Moreau would declare this an experiment too far. ROFLMAO Thanks Bruce, your last sentence really brightened a dull day... (I'm stuck at home getting over swine flu but still tele-working...) Keep the wit coming. Ted PS Who in Heaven's name would use such a thing? What was the designer on? -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: New Disks in G5
iJohn wrote: On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 11:34 PM, Kasey Smithkasm...@gmail.com wrote: I would go with the 7200RPM, going from a 5400 to a 7200 even with an IDE drive is a big difference. It used to make a bigger difference than it does now with the newer, higher bit density platters. This article might be of interest: Should You Be Looking For A Hard Drive Upgrade? Tom's Hardware - 2009-08-19 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/hard-drive-upgrade,2377.html The article compares the performance of an older and a newer Samsung drive. The new one is a 1TB Samsung F2 which I expect is equivalent to the 5400RPM F2 you're looking at. Here's an excerpt: The F2 EcoGreen drives comes with 32 MB cache memory, which is four times more than the SP2004C. But itthe F2 spins at only 5,400 RPM. This isn’t a reason to be scared in the performance area, though, as this drive still delivers 107 MB/s and hence provides almost twice the throughput of the 3-4 year old P120 drive. Clearly ~100 MB/s ain't too shabby. It still won't be limited by your 1.5Gbps theoretical max SATA bandwidth (~185 MB/s??). Other aspects of your system ... like your CPU performance and max memory transfer rate ... will probably hold it back more. While you might possibly get a bit better performance by going with a 7200 RPM drive, I don't think with your system you'd really see a noticeable performance improvement from the extra rotational speed. You might also take a look at the site http://diskcompare.com. The site appears to be pretty an indirect way for newegg.com to try to sell more hard drives. But if you keep that bias in mind, it can still be a useful way to locate recent hard drive reviews from the various hardware sites on the Internet. -irrational john John, Thanks for your help. Whilst I'm pretty au fait with the workings of my G5, (my previous Sawtooth G3Beige before that were heavily modded rebuilt), my main concern was whether in real world computing, the difference in performance between 7200rpm and 5400rpm SATA2 drives would be sufficient to justify the additional cost, when they would be on a SATA1 controller. Your (very rational) assistance helped me weigh up pros cons effectively. Since my major desire is simply capacity, I'll go for the 5400rpm drives, and add the difference to my piggy-bank, saving for an Intel Mac tower, subject to approval from a) Bank Manager and b) more importantly, She-Who-Must-Be-Obeyed. Thanks again, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
New Disks in G5
Hi All, I have an early 2005 G5 dual 2.0, maxed out at 4GB RAM. I want to put some huge drives in it, and am looking at Samsung F3 1TB 7200rpm drives. There are places (in the UK) where I can get the Samsung F2 1.5TB drive for not a lot more, although it's only a 5400rpm drive. I'd be grateful if someone with greater techie knowledge than me could advise me on whether the fact that my G5 is SATA1 so 150Mbs as opposed to300Mbs SATA2 is going to mean the 1.5TB will not be noticeably slower in use. I currently have two Seagate ST3320620AS 320GB 7200rpm drives in there, and they are perfectly fast enough for my use, although they're getting a little full now. Thanks, Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: receipt reply required for each message
Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 15, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Charles Lenington wrote: Is anyone else getting the acknowledgement message for all messages that nestami...@gmail.com sends to the list? I have not been getting these, so it's not everyone. Ive been getting them in the UK Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Attempting to send ClarisWorks spreadsheet via email
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Re: No Script
Hey Ralph, Right click??? Are you using a PC??? How do you right click on an Apple computer??? What you are talking about here sounds really great!!! But I can't right click... CoolKat Kat, (Or can I call you Cool?) Use any old PC USB mouse you can assign the right-hand button to Right click. Worked ever since I had my old G3 Beige (with USB PCI card hub). Nowadays - just get an Apple Mighty Mouse... Ted -Original Message- From: Ralph Green sfrea...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Oct 19, 2009 3:59 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: No Script Howdy, I use NoScript and strongly recommend it. It is the main reason I stay with Firefox, instead of spending time with Safari or Chrome. When you install it, scripts from almost all domains are turned off by default. They whitelist a few domains out of the box, and I usually delete most of those from the whitelist. When you visit a page where something does not seem to work the way you think it should, you can turn on scripts for one domain at a time. I have seen some web pages containing scripts from 10 or more domains. Right click on the new icon at the bottom of your Firefox window that has a blue S. You can see the domains that the web page is trying to run scripts from. I recommend you select Temporarily allow x for only the smallest number of domains that you need to accomplish your task. If you are regularly visiting a page and allowing its scripts to run, only then select Allow x. I rarely run any scripts, and I am very picky about which ones I do run. It makes web browsing much more secure, but many people are not willing to go to the trouble. Since you probably won't choose to allow scripts from yahooips.com, then those scripts won't bother you in the future. Good luck, Ralph On Sun, 2009-10-18 at 11:56 -0500, Stephen Conrad wrote: OK, I am gonna finally mess with this FF Add-on because for some reason (this has not happened until recently) some script from yahooips.com is causing FF to ask me the old continue or stop script question. How do I block scripts from this domain when I install No Script? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Early 2005 G5 Dual 2GHz
Hi All,Has anyone any knowledge if there's any restriction of disk capacity for Early 2005 G5 Dual 2GHz towers?TIATed
Re: Early 2005 G5 Dual 2GHz
Alexander MacLeod wrote: On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Hi All, Has anyone any knowledge if there's any restriction of disk capacity for Early 2005 G5 Dual 2GHz towers? TIA Ted None at all. My first generation PowerMac G5 has a 2TB RAID0 array in it. Alex Thanks Alex: I'll look to replace my 2 320GBs with more capacity. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display
From: Swigart, Kurt A [NTK] kurt.a.swig...@sprint.com Subject: Question regarding non-mac monitors/display Hello, Quick question, request for advice. I was wondering what are some of the pros and cons and/or pieces ( cables/etc…) that I would need to hook up a non-apple display to a G5 Quad? Is this even possible? The monitor I am looking at does have a DVI port. Thanks in advance. _ Hi Kurt, All you need is a DVI-DVI cable and that's it. Pros are that non-Apple monitors are cheaper Cons are that you need to check the quality is OK for your needs. That's all. Good luck with it, Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options
From: d p xolmu...@gmail.com To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, 26 August, 2009 9:27:55 AM Subject: Re: Apple G4 CPU upgrade options Does nayone have any experience between these two: 1. Mercury Extreme G4/1.2GHz w/2MB L3 Cache. (I'm not sure the correct model#) 2. sonnet encore st g4 1200/2m (SG4-1200-2M) macuser, I thank you for your time. But you see I got this G4 Powermac as a hand me down. The two processors I mentioned on my last link were mentioned for a reason, and that is because they are old processors and they can be found anywhere from $60-100. I need another 512mb stick and I will have 1.5gigs of ram, and I already run 2 firewire 400 drives (320gigx2) You can't compare the savings I'm after, to the theoretical savings you spelled out. __ I had a Mercury Extreme 1.5GHz in my old Sawtooth, and had absolutely no problems. I ran a Sonnet G4 upgrade in my old Beige G3 and that too, was OK - but there were one or two issues regarding booting from CD/DVD (i.e. CMD+C didn't work) but I think those issues were specific to the G3 ZIF upgrades. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Flash woe(s)
Hi All, Possibly OT - in which case I humbly apologise to the Nannies, but I use CS3, and have a .swf (and its .fla) which I am trying to convert to .flv. Flash CS3 doesn't seem to have an export to .flv - or if it does, I can't find it in the program or in Flash Help. Any Flash-experienced guru any ideas? TIA Ted Dual 2.0 G5, 4GB, 10.5.8 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
10.5.8
Out now. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Sonnet Encore ZIF G4
Lodewijk wrote: I bought a Sonnet Tech Encore ZIF G4 Processor Upgrade Card for my Power Mac G3, but it (the power mac) crashed. I'm planning to buy a Power Mac G4 AGP graphics to replace my old G3. My question is: does my Sonnet Card work with this computer? In a word, no. The G4 does not have the same ZIF socket as the G3. G4 CPUs are on a daughtercard. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Return to PowerPC?
t was true back then. Problem was all the old 68k code in the old MacOS. Back in '98 a mac with Linux felt like flying compared to the macos crawling. The argument had absolutely nothing to do with the OS running on the system. The industry comparisons between RISC and CISC were made on the basis of assembler code. -- Bruce Johnson Apple going back to PPC would be like Ford going back to starting-handles, manual advance-retard for the ignition, etc., etc. Apple are Intel-powered. Live with it. Nope, I'm not feeling superior, 'cos I've had my dual G5 2.0 for only 10 months, and it will be quite some time before bank-balance (and wife) permit the purchase of a Mac Pro. Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---