Re: [Audyssey] Eamon and exploration, my thoughts,

2009-01-06 Thread dark
To be honest sean, to blame lack of exploritory games on graphics doesn't seem fair. going back to the 80's we have examples like Metroid on the nes, and Turrican on the Amigar which had a massive exploration focus despite being A, graphical and B, symple. Now, graphically, while as Tom's

Re: [Audyssey] Pinball classic?

2009-01-06 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas, Yeah, it has been at least twenty some years since I have played a real pinball game as well. I liked the older, slower machines with bells etc. The newer ones with digital sounds, digital score boards, multi levels, multi balls etc were just too much for me. Of course the

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Do you die on the easy Difficulty level if you run into the troll? I did it and sarah onlya sayed Oh noo! but nothing else happened. -- Email: kevin.weispfen...@gmx.net Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de BlinkNationBlog: http://www.blinknation.com/kevinweisi/weblog BlinkNationProfil:

[Audyssey] Football Hooligans game

2009-01-06 Thread ari
Hi, I'm a little busy at the moment, but I heard about a game that might be accessible if someone wants to check it out. It's called Little Hooligans, and it's about you having to be a football hooligan and trying to run a group and do battle against other hooligans. Here's the site

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
ANd, what do they mean in the Review Highscores on your computer or check the highscores on your computer ´, what do they mean by chapters? -- Email: kevin.weispfen...@gmx.net Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de BlinkNationBlog: http://www.blinknation.com/kevinweisi/weblog BlinkNationProfil:

Re: [Audyssey] Football Hooligans game

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Thanks for the link Ari, but Another run a group and do batle game? You'll forgive me if my first comment is, meh. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: RE: games

2009-01-06 Thread Willem
I still don't agree. Code factory should give a definite yes for it to be right. I suggest not to stop asking them if we can distribute them. Milos Przic wrote: First of all, I appologize for my way of writing, my english is not quite good so my messages could seam written by a very

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: RE: games

2009-01-06 Thread shaun everiss
should but havn't not that we have wated a while. I'd still like to get an answer though. However someone must be done maybe a direct approach. Firstly someone local try call them. If this does not work, we should distrobute and see. If they decide to complain we can point them back to the

[Audyssey] Latest Audyssey Magazine

2009-01-06 Thread Earle
I've been way behind in email, and I think I somehow missed the latest Audyssey magazine. Can anyone tell me when the last issue came out? I remember reading, not too long before the holidays, that one was coming out. I never received it, so I was wondering if it actually came out, or has it

Re: [Audyssey] Football Hooligans game

2009-01-06 Thread ari
Probably you're right, but the question is how good is it and is it accessible? Anything as long as it's accessible, lol. Ari --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your

[Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread ari
Hi all, I have two questions, the first one is OT, so please answer that directly to me. Because I have recently become interested in ice hockey: 1. Sorry, but I don't know how American radio works, and the amount and names of your stations are quite confusing. If they are allowed to do this,

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread dennis
i would also be interested in this my email is dennisl1...@gmail.com - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Air Hockey Hi all, I have two questions, the first

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread ian mcnamara
it can be done i keep my hand on the table and when it is my turn to hit the disc i stop it with my hand so i know where it is. - Original Message - From: dennis dennisl1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:56 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Hi Ari. Unfortunately in most arcades where I've seen tables, they don't let you bring your own air hocky disk, so you'd have to modify whatever disk came out of the machine. What you need is a small, constantly beeping buzzer I think which you could slip on to the top of the disk, a

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Mich
hi all when I was at school I whent to a school for the blind by the way we played Air hockey and never had any modifications or anything. well hth. from Mich. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You

[Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread ari
Hi Ian and Dark, The problem with that is, it takes the fun out, because you're stopping the disk from flying around, which is supposed to happen. Dark, let's for a moment forget about the fact that you need to use the disk that came with the machine, or let's pretend the owner said you can

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread ari
Hi Mich, But I can't see how you could have played air hockey in the propper sense, because the wind always changes direction and blows the disk all over the place. I know you could try and hear how it bounces and try and hit it, but wasn't that kind of a hit-and-miss thing, because the disk

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread ian mcnamara
yes i agree but if thedisc rebounds you can here it i do enjoy playing it though table football is a cool game my dad genrally defends and i genrally controle the forward players - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent:

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Kevin, Yes you can get knocked out on the easy difficulty level by being hit by the Troll. The Troll takes some of your energy away each time he hits you with his club. So it depends on how much energy you had as to how many hits it takes to knock you out. Once you reach a very low level,

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Kevin, The high score tells you how much energy you had when you quit. The chapter is another name for level. In the game you can go from chapter 1 to chapter 11 in one step so I thought chapter would be a better term. Plus the game is based on a series of books which use the chapter term.

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Karl
Hi, I've played a little bit of air hockey. While the puck is going back and forth I keep my shooter very close to my goal, sort of like a goalkeeper. When I hear the puck slid to my side of the table, I can move my piece and hit it. The only time I touch the puck with my hand is after a goal

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Julie Warrington
i have played quite a bit too, with no special tools either. I just protected my goal for the most part, and hit the puck when i could. try to hit it at an angle and bounce it off the side, to aim it at the opponent goal from an angle too, rather than a direct hit. - Original Message

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Julie Warrington
exactly. i agree and play the same strategy - Original Message - From: Karl karl.belan...@verizon.net To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey Hi, I've played a little bit of air hockey. While the puck is

[Audyssey] air hockey again

2009-01-06 Thread Ken
I play for fun but I never do well. Since air is already coming up and supporting the puck, I don't see why a whistle couldn't be built right into the puck--a small hole on one side of the puck for the air to blow through, and on the other side a dip and slit type deal like on the

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
oKAY... But the Dementore aren't on the easy difficulty, aren't they? -- Email: kevin.weispfen...@gmx.net Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de BlinkNationBlog: http://www.blinknation.com/kevinweisi/weblog BlinkNationProfil: http://www.blinknation.com/kevinweisi Klango-Blog:

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Ron Schamerhorn
Hi Ari I agree air hockey is quite fast paced and stopping the puck is not what I'd consider in the spirit of the game. However I don't know as though there would be anything to modify the puck with. My reasons would be it would have to stand up to being knocked around and also could a

Re: [Audyssey] air hockey again

2009-01-06 Thread dennis
what is the site - Original Message - From: Ken kenwdow...@neo.rr.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:05 PM Subject: [Audyssey] air hockey again I play for fun but I never do well. Since air is already coming up and supporting

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Perhaps there is a gap in the Vi accessaries markit for something which is the size of a watch battery and makes a continuous beeping sound. I've played pool myself, but only again because the yellow balls contrast with the table. I'm not sure how you'd do snooker pool without some sort of

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Kevin, I think a few Dementors show up but in special situations. spoiler space When you enter the staff room and open the cabinet, it sounds like a dementor shows up. It is really, more spoiler space a Bogart that you can chase away with, even more spoiler space, the ridiculous spell. But a

Re: [Audyssey] Sarah

2009-01-06 Thread Kevin Weispfennig
Hi, Can you ebnter the kitchen, nd were is the entrance to the staffroom? I know somewere in the Basement. -- Email: kevin.weispfen...@gmx.net Homepage: http://www.weisi4u.de BlinkNationBlog: http://www.blinknation.com/kevinweisi/weblog BlinkNationProfil: http://www.blinknation.com/kevinweisi

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Dark, There are several beep balls for softball and baseball. I even got a beeping basketball and a waterproof beech volley ball. I guess the beeper could be removed and taped onto a hockey puck. Phil - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Hi Phil. Once again, English vi access proves it's status. I've just been on the rnib catalogue site (sinse my mum has decided to try Uno and we needed a set a braille cards), games and hobbies lists many catagories such as sewing, and playing bingo, but about the most vigorous game they've

Re: [Audyssey] Football Hooligans game

2009-01-06 Thread Orin
Hmm. This also sounds like firm Football. On Jan 6, 2009, at 9:11 AM, ari wrote: Hi, I'm a little busy at the moment, but I heard about a game that might be accessible if someone wants to check it out. It's called Little Hooligans, and it's about you having to be a football hooligan and

Re: [Audyssey] Football Hooligans game

2009-01-06 Thread Angellko21
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Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Dark, Here is where i bought the balls, Game Balls | independent living aids http://www.independentliving.com/products.asp?dept=46deptname=Game+Balls - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 2:55 PM

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
To me, this would be cheating. You're not supposed to stop the puck with your hands. I have heard that some blind people can hear the air moving the puck, although I haven't noticed it. I haven't played the game in years. I helped with the drilling of an air hockey table using a pattern

Re: [Audyssey] Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Rivard
How did you do it? It would be more helpful to explain how it is done rather than to just say that you did it and give no details. Thanks. --- If guns cause crime, pencils cause misspelled words. - Original Message - From: Mich m...@ntl.sympatico.ca To: Gamers Discussion list

[Audyssey] Game Controler

2009-01-06 Thread djc
I just bought a cool game controler. It's called Phillips Retractable Game Controler. The model is sgc2909 and Walmart is selling them for 15 Bucks here in the US. I am not sure if you can buy these online but they have them in the stores. The game controler has 2 joy sticks as well as a cursor

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread ari
And the cool thing is they ship all over the world. By the way, what is the site address for Ken's air hockey game? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread Phil Vlasak
Ken's FTP site for the air hockey game and others is: http://www.tbrn.net/modgirl/Ken's%20games/ - Original Message - From: ari aridamoula...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air

Re: [Audyssey] Infocom interpretors?

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Montowski
Hello there, last night I did download some Infocom games and the two versin of the WinFrotz interpretors. I love the TTS version. I set my voice to Daniel and started playing PlanetFall. it was awesome and a great trip down memory lane. I am going to waste lots of time on these games. thanks for

Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey

2009-01-06 Thread lelia
How do you play this air hockey game? I didn't find instructions? Lelia - Original Message - From: Phil Vlasak p...@pcsgames.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Table Games was Re: Air Hockey Ken's FTP

[Audyssey] Fallthrough review in audeasy?

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Hi. Does anyone happen to remember which issue of the audeasy mag Michael's review of fallthrough was in? we're back to updating the audiogames.net database, and it'd be quite nice to link to the review on the audiogames.net page for fallthrough. I admit I'd also rather like to read it

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, Snip The question was why accessibility to the blind was such an abhorrent concept to mainstream game designers. I refuse to say alien since we've been trying to explain it to them for years and most refuse to listen. End snip Well, as I have said so many times already most of

Re: [Audyssey] Fallthrough review in audeasy?

2009-01-06 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dark, That review was way back in issue 1. Best, Zack. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Fallthrough review in audeasy? Hi. Does anyone happen to remember which issue of the

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
True enough, but I'm certain that if these mainstream game designers were to find out where blind gamers congrigate and conduct some accessibility surveys in those communities they would probably attract many more potential customers. People who weren't gamers up until then but had the interest

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Snip It seems to be an unfortunate truth that individually people are pretty decent, collectively they are vile! End snip I agree. That seams to be a universal flaw of the human race. Especially, in a ccorperate environment where very few people actually do all the decision

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
I coudln't agree more. Like I said my brother and I had a talk about game accessibility yesterday. We got to discussing old computer games lik Gobblins and Pirates! both of which titles I would love to see made accessible. And those are probably prime titles for remaking. And since Pirates!

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Unfortunately that is a highly over simplified view of the problem we face with Prince of Persia. Even if someone like i had the original Dos source code on hand I couldn't just place sounds where they go and get some really cool 3D processing on them. Keep in mind when that game

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Shaun, In short. If they don't give you specific permission to use their copyrighted material or right to redistribute assume therefore it is illegal to do so. No answer from a company is the same as no in the eyes of the law in the majority of cases. That is why I stress geting a specific

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Fair enough tom, I admit my basis for thinking Pop could be accessible was more based on the gameplay than the hardware, sinse it could be done with comparatively few sterrio effects, but it does make sense that it'd be harder adding things that were not already present in the game than

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: RE: games

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Milos and all, You need to understand that in the eyes of the law failing to get direct permission to share such files is illegal. It doesn't matter if the company didn't give you a direct no answer. No answer is the same as saying no until there is some written or oral agreement made

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, True, but companies don't see it that way. Sony's immediate reaction to building in more accessibility features like talking menus was something to the effect thanks for the suggestion but that their polacy was not to except ideas, suggestions, etc from end users of their products.

Re: [Audyssey] Copywrite and abandonware

2009-01-06 Thread Bryan Peterson
Personally I think they just don't want to be proven wrong about us. I've seen that mindset in other areas of life besides just gaming. To be quite honest as aaggressive as they are I'm surprised that the NFB hasn't taken a stand on this issue. After all they were the reason AOL became

[Audyssey] Try this news quiz

2009-01-06 Thread Richard sherman
The following quiz is pretty long and hard. It consists of 50 questions about the year in review and how well you paid attention. Do you remember? Take the 2008 news quiz Take msnbc.com's end-of-year brainteaser and see how much you recall. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28114969/from/ET/ ps. i

[Audyssey] Winfrotz restore game?

2009-01-06 Thread Robert Montowski
I have been playing Planetfall for a few hours now with WinFrotz TTS. I have been saving games as i moved along in the game. I took a break and came back and tried to start over and load in my last saved game. I choose open game from the file menu. I pick the folder where the games are stored

Re: [Audyssey] Winfrotz restore game?

2009-01-06 Thread shaun everiss
try to open and select all files. this will display all files in a folder I find some programs serching for a particular type will do this. Understand though this will bring up everything. However if you know that file is supported then it will open when clicked. At 04:02 p.m. 7/01/2009, you

Re: [Audyssey] sound effects for fantasy games any suggestion?

2009-01-06 Thread oriol gómez
nothing else right now but I used to play god wars II and wanted sounds for it. On 1/5/09, MICHAEL MASLO mmaslo1...@swbell.net wrote: What other muds you working on? I like your alder aeon sound pack it is great. -Original Message- From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org

Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: RE: games

2009-01-06 Thread 0722001794
Why not ask them to join this list so that they can follow the thread. -original message- Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Fwd: RE: games From: shaun everiss shau...@xtra.co.nz Date: 06/01/2009 5:20 pm should but havn't not that we have wated a while. I'd still like to get an answer though. However

[Audyssey] clango player

2009-01-06 Thread 0722001794
Can we call the clango player a screen reader? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org.

[Audyssey] forum

2009-01-06 Thread 0722001794
Can this list be called an e mail forum? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All

Re: [Audyssey] clango player

2009-01-06 Thread dark
Well we could, but we'd be wrong. A screen reader is intended to give access to on screen text in just about any context text could appear, within programs, in windows, even in flash pains if text is used. Klango player does not do this. It provides self-voicing access to a number

Re: [Audyssey] forum

2009-01-06 Thread dark
A forum is a discussion board hosted on a web page, an E-mail is some text sent from one computer to another. I'm afraid I don't see how your question makes sense. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: 0722001...@vodamail.co.za To: gamers gamers@audyssey.org Sent: