I would hope that this would be more of a guideline encouraging people to
proofread their emails rather than a hard and fast rule, because where do
you draw the line on coming down on someone? One mispelled word? Two? A
misused comma?
Don't get me wrong, I am a huge proponent of proofing
I submit for your experimentation my keymap file. A lot of commands have been
moved around and grouped into specific keyboard regions, and the most common
functions have been made more readily accessible. beacons were migrated to the
F keys, and a lot of commands for navigation have lost their
Hello,
In my opinion, it depends on the magnitude of the mistake. If it is 1
misspelled word, then it will not be a problem for the list. However, if it
is 3, 4, 5, misspelled words, then the line should be drawn their. Also, in
my opinion, one or two punctuation mistakes are fine by me.
This one's from the resident evil 2 game- claire playthrough.
The acting's alot better- and you get to hear lots of zombies in this one from
the get-go.
I love the part in the intro when Claire tried to talk to what turned out to be
a zombie rofl.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwmEBTd28wQ
---
well if there is a history look at that.
I doubt its anything, still.
At 05:32 p.m. 17/12/2011 -0600, you wrote:
I was dumb enough not to look after I did my scan a couple days ago. :)
- Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list
I completely concure on the points suggested, such as putting proofreading
elements in the guidelines. However, I think we are all probably taking
this a little too far, although I could be wrong. I just don't want people
posting to the list and having to check several things, and thus getting
ONe point which we are all seming to miss is the blind complain factor why
should we be taken seriously when blind people can be the biggest wingers
this side of th egalaxy.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Ben gamehead...@aol.co.uk
To:
HI all especial to lorenzo
When the game is released ont he 19th, zero sight I mean, do we have to
download 2 separate files?
One for demo and another one for full version? or will it all be in the same
download?
I guess not though as no registration system.
I tell everyone now, if I do buy
Great William!
Yes you'll be able to download the demo freely, but when you'll buy the
game there will be another download.
2011/12/18 william lomas will.d.lo...@gmail.com
HI all especial to lorenzo
When the game is released ont he 19th, zero sight I mean, do we have to
download 2 separate
any info yet on how the demo work? do we just get the landing and take off map
so fly around with no enemies?
also are the missions timed or do we have as long as required?
On Dec 18, 2011, at 11:22 AM, Shard Workshop wrote:
Great William!
Yes you'll be able to download the demo freely, but
Hi Michael,
In five minutes of googling I found the name to write to directly
when emailing the developer of Gamebook Adventures.
The developer is
Tin Man Games
Founded by Neil Rennison, Tin Man Games is a video games studio based in
Melbourne, Australia.
Neil Rennison comes from a background
Hello,
I would like to add my perspective on this topic about proofreading.
I have noticed, throughout my stay on the list, that we have people who
are known to be foreigners. They have little knowledge of our English
language. If we implement this guideline, does that not make it hard on
The demo will feature a modified version of the training map, with a pair
of enemies flying in the sky. You'll not be able to use oll the weapons
etc. You'll be able to play the demo for how long you want.
As for the timed missions, yes, sometimes you have to complete the mission
before something
Hi Meka and all,
Back when we were discussing the proofreading guidelines for the list
we were considering something very basic that most people should be
able to follow without too much explanation.
For example, let's take punctuation. Now, we know there are some more
advanced punctuation rules
One question, is this a gaming list or English list.
Just because Charles gets his nose bent on reading email by people in
other countries. Don't mean we put this crap in the guidelines.
If you want that rule Charles. Then start your own list and you will
be happy to know. Your the only member!
Hi Alfredo,
They can use a grammar checking software if they want to.
- Original Message -
From: Alfredo_The_Music_maker birdlover2...@hotmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers Being Taken
Hello, Phil.
Thanks for that info!
I went to www.GamebookAdventure.com and left a message.
I hope that someone will respond to my message.
When I went to the site you gave the contact form asked for the caption thing.
If other people on here will be willing to help me to get in contact
with the
Hi i am finding this topic very useful. it's helping me realize where i go
wrong when i right. As i said in a previus post i like to right stories so
things like this are very useful for me, i do not mind constructive crittisisum
but i do hate it when people publicly slam some one for there
hi. I agree that proofreading should be in the guidelines, but
policing this is inpractical.
People should just remember that people will ignore them if they are
hard to understand.
On 12/18/11, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Meka and all,
Back when we were discussing the
I agree with this. If someone's message is incomprehensible, I just skip it
and move on, and become less likely to read the next message from them.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Willem Venter
Sent: Sunday, December
Hi, i to will not upload it any where if i decide to buy it. I feel that
lorenzo has been very kind to trust us in this way and due to that i feel that
anyone who wants the game should pay him in kind and buy it.
Ian McNamara
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to leave
There are utilities that can help with that and we can point those folks
inthe right direction if need be. But the issue isn't just folks who use
English as a second or third language. We're mainly talking people who
supposedly grew up speaking English and who write as though they never
Problem is it's hard to know what game the person needs help with or where
in the game they need help if you can't read the message. So at least a
reasonable amount of proofreading should be required.
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
- Original Message -
From: Trouble
Hi Willem,
That is in part why no proofreading guidelines exist currently. We,
the moderators, don't want to constantly police the list any more than
we absolutely have to. People should use their own judgment and
initiative to correct spelling, grammar, and punctuation. As to why
many blind list
well, there is the rsgames client for the mac.
On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:52 PM, Phil Vlasak wrote:
Hi Michael,
I assume you checked out my Mac games page,
http://www.pcsgames.net/MacGame-co.htm
I admit I have not updated it in two years.
And looking at the list there doesn't seem to be many
While I don't disagree, it should be simple courtesy to check an email as
you go for maximum intelligibility. I don't necessarily think that
spellchecking has to be done after the fact... I myself proofread as I go,
to ensure my grammar and spelling are up to scratch. It just makes life
It seems like you were looking at including a very fair rule into the
guidelines, and I still think you should include it.
If someone wants, or is giving help, getting through a game, and their
message cannot be understood due to the way it was written, they, or the
person needing
Which games have you tried? What is currently not accessible in what games
they produce? What, as far as finger and phone gestures, have you tried to
get around the accessibility problems? How can these changes be made?
---
Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second.
-
Actually, he was right, or at least in part. Stop to consider this: You
can sometimes get a screen reader to give a correct pronunciation of a word
by purposely misspelling it. Since this list is primarily for blind people
who, for the most part, use a screen reader, this would probably be
Hey guys, I think last week I posted about this but I hadn't really put it all
together yet. I've had some emails asking for the Swamp map editor and even
though it isn't accessible, at least one of those people said they could get
sighted assistance quite easily. So for any who are willing
I receive a few hundred Emails on most days, and there are some Emails that,
when I see that they are written by certain people, I hit the delete key. I
already know that I won't be able to understand them because of their lack
of communication skills. It's not because they don't use English
I come back to the Audyssey list after a few days, and we're flooded with
messages which appear to have been spawned as a result of a few of you
getting your shorts in a twist over typos. Seriously people? And you want to
put proper grammar in the guidelines? Tongue in cheek note: one of the
A prime example of the reason of the thread. Reread your message with your
screen reader. Does it make sense?
---
Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second.
- Original Message -
From: Lisa Hayes lhay...@internode.on.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
I agree with both Thomas and charles. I'm on so many lists that if I see an
email I know I won't be able to read without taking a lot of time, I won't
bother. As I said earlier, it isn't exactly the hardest thing in the world
to proofread an email as you go. This makes yourself look better, and
Hi,
I always check messages after I have finished them, to make sure they
are readable, and in case I want to add anything extra in.
As far as spell checking goes, I actually don't use an in built spell
checker for checking my typing, unless I am in word for example.
A far more useful
Hello,
I quite agree with Charles on his point. When you use a screen reader, when
you are spelling out a word, and when you press the space bar key, when
you are writing, the word may sound as though it is correct, but really,
truly in reality, the word is misspelled, and the word should
While I agree with some of your post, I think this was not an attempt to
turn things into grammar school or blast people. True, it's gotten a bit out
of hand, but there is a point to it... sure bad grammar is the norm on the
web, but there's a limit... and while this list isn't a professional
Don't flame michael and I will not flame you. My screen reader read the post
fine so you need to stop letting the shark bite you in the butt.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote:
Actually, he was right, or at least in part. Stop to
If you have been reading messages that I have posted, you would have seen
that on at least 2 occasions, I have very clearly stated that there are
people who do not use English as their first language, and I have no problem
with that reason. If you have been following this thread, you also have
While I appreciate the fact that you are trying to defend your friend... we
have not flamed him, merely given him suggestions. I suggest we all just let
this thread drop... the discussion is over... and as shown by the post below
now it's gone to rude comments and insults flying around.
-
Charles, while checking for understandability is all well and good...
there's a fine line between lack of that and simple spelling errors. Unless
it is a major one, you can still understand the post. Punctuation is the
same thing... a couple of missing punctuation points aren't the problem. And
Do we seriously have to have this bash michael party every few month.
This is why I don't play your games or talk much because you guys are just
looking for people to tear down. That's why I will only ever play Jims games.
Cause as a developer he is the nicest guy I've met. You guys need to
Nope not till they apologize to michael and last I checked it's still a free
country.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 2:06 AM, Shiny protector muhamme...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Joseph,
People here are only trying to help Michael and give him better advice here
on this
I disagree you all do this to him all the time.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com wrote:
While I appreciate the fact that you are trying to defend your friend... we
have not flamed him, merely given him suggestions. I suggest we all just
As far as I'm aware... this is the first time this's happened. so no, we
don't seriously have to flame him every few months.. because it doesn't
happen.
- Original Message -
From: Joseph Weaver jweaver1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December
Hello all,
I may not be the moderator for this mailing list, but this has to stop right
now. People are accusing each other or flaming each other on this mailing
list, you name it. Also, rude insults are being traded around, like the
foul word that one of the list members has used on the
First of all, now you're just being unreasonable... second, I haven't had
anything to do with what you call flaming Michael... have simply tried to
help as best I can. Third... in some places, this would be known as trolling
on your part. But that's beside the point. If you don't like seeing
Hasn't it already been stated that perfection is not expected and that a few
mistakes are OK? It's the blatancy that should be curtailed.
---
Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second.
- Original Message -
From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers
If that was stated then I appologize. I may have missed it... but I do agree
with that statement.
- Original Message -
From: Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers
Hello Charles,
I agree with what you have said as well.
- Original Message -
From: Clement Chou chou.clem...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Blind Gamers Being Taken Seriously?
If that was stated
Compare your own message content to that of others, with an open mind, and
you answer is right there for you to see. You have given not one bit of
constructive criticism. Others have, and given their reasons for doing so.
You gripe, complain, curse, flame, and most of what the list guidelines
Here are the events scheduled for Sunday, December 18th:
From the Pulpit
11:00 AM eastern
Hosted by Lee
Location: House of Our Lord
Come listen to a live service, which will include, worship, music, preaching,
and special singing.
Zilch
4:00 PM eastern
Hosted by Roger
Location: Game Zone
Hi,
I'd love to know why you're being conservatism into this discussion. I too
am a conservative, and I can say that part of the philosiph of convertaism
relates to not being lazy. As was previously stated, many people who end up
with horrible grammar and speling erros are native English speakrs,
Ryan,
The real reason that this thread grew is because of an incident
involving an external game developer, who may very well be less likely
to consider accessibility for his games in the future. Personally, I
could go either way on list moderation, but when it comes to off-list
communication
That's really dependent on the map your playing. If you could
give a few more details that would be great.
- Original Message -
From: Lindsay Cowell lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Date sent: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:43:55 +
Subject: [Audyssey] Just starting out on
I honestly don't care one way or the other what the decision about
proofreading guidelines are going to be. I think it's important that people
proof their emails in general. Writing messages off list to those who might
have stated a particular sentence unclearly may come off as condescending,
You have been the only person in this entire thread to engage in flaming
behavior. Check yourself before you go doing it again. You are the only
person who has been specifically warned by a moderator. Again, check
yourself.
Chris Bartlett
-Original Message-
From:
Shard Workshop was born 11.11.11. Tonight you are all witnesses of its real
initiation in the world of audiogaming.
Shard Workshop is proud to annouce that its first audiogame, Zero Sight,
has been released just now.
You can find all the details at http://www.shardworkshop.com/zero-sight
We
That's my point you don't know michael yet your judging him.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Hayden Presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'd love to know why you're being conservatism into this discussion. I too
am a conservative, and I can say that part of the philosiph
Brilliant. This are really wonderful news.
I will try it out as soon as I have some free time.
Cheers and many thanks for the game!
I was dreaming for a game like this!
Jorge Gonçalves
jopo...@hotmail.com
Skype: joport3
Twitter: www.twitter.com/goncalvesjorge
Webpage: www.jorgegoncalves.com
On
Hey, Joseph.
Thanks for defending me.
However people this whole thing needs to stop and let's get back to gaming!
--
Email services provided by the System Access Mobile Network. Visit
www.serotek.com to learn more about accessibility anywhere.
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
I agree this is all judgmental and elementary.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 18, 2011, at 7:43 PM, michael barnes c...@samobile.net wrote:
Hey, Joseph.
Thanks for defending me.
However people this whole thing needs to stop and let's get back to gaming!
--
Email services provided by the
I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it on
the website for in the program group in the start menu.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard Workshop
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 7:02 PM
It is in the game folder. The default is c:\program files\shard
workshop\zero sight.
2011/12/19 Reinhard Stebner raydar11...@yahoo.com
I am looking for the manual and I am unable to find it. I cannot find it on
the website for in the program group in the start menu.
-Original Message-
Hi everybody,
I need some help with something, and even though this isn't exactly
game specific, it's still game related and you all could probably help
me. I play some online games and my buddies who play use IRC chat
client to play. I downloaded the MIRC program that lends a more
friendly user
Hi yep will give it a try when i can not normely the kind of game i'm good at
but really think i'll give the demmo a try then if i like it concidder buying
it.
Ian McNamara
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to
Great!
2011/12/19 Ian McNamara ianandri...@googlemail.com
Hi yep will give it a try when i can not normely the kind of game i'm good
at but really think i'll give the demmo a try then if i like it concidder
buying it.
Ian McNamara
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you
Hi,
i've kept out of this as long as i can. i am sick of reading the flaming. i am
going to make one point and one point only, then i'm saying no more on this
subject. as it's gone way to far and turned in to a slanging match. it was at
first giving constructive advice.
Joseph it is true what
Hi Lorenzo,
I ordered the game something like an hour ago, and it said I should've
received an eMail within half an hour. Was it referring to the conformation
eMail, or the eMail giving the actual order information?
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From:
Hi Lorenzo,
Perhaps you might consider adding the manual to the program group? That
tends to be the standard. And I just sent an eMail regarding my order:
ignore it. It seems as if my download got sent before the confirmation
eMail...lol
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From:
Hi, what kind of online games do you play? Just interested as i'm looking to
play more on line stuff.
Ian McNamara
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org.
You can make changes or update your subscription via
Hi,
I am not judging Michael. I didn't mean to infer that he was lazy, that's
why I prefaced that with the question as to why conservatism remark got
injected into the conversation. But I have to agree this has gotten crazily
out of hand, so I don't want you to assume what I'm saying to be bashing
Do you know if you will ever add mouse support? I think mouse support would
give finer control of the airplane and there are several audio games using
this type of control as well.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Shard
For my fellow blind pilot love to be.
I've already down loaded the demo.
Man do we have a lot to learn. SMILES.
I think the best thing for us to do is to write some Braille reminders of
the shortcut keystrokes and their functions so that we can at least get off
of the ground. SMILES.
So that's
yeah. its looking good. one idea though, for the developer. would it be
possible to set the directions, as compass directions? as its quite
disorienting to have degrees that don't match up to compass headings.
like, 0 being north, not east, 90 being east, 180 being south, and 270
being west?
I too would appreciate that.
I was always taught the following.
Look at a clock. Each number of the clock equaled thirty degrees. But both
either 0 and or 360 was north.
090 degrees with east.
180 was south, and 270 degrees was west.
One other recommendation
Any chance of writing in USB game
Hi,
I was wondering about that myself. The good thing is with the navigator, and
with the help of your radar, things are a little easier to work with. Still,
though, it would be nice to have those line up.
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org
Hi,
How could you possibly get finer control? Fractional degree markings?
Best Regards,
Hayden
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Reinhard Stebner
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 9:49 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Hi there. I need a volunteer to help me out with a game test.. no, I am not
developing, though that'd be fun. lol Email me offlist for further details if
you meet the criteria:
-- someone who knows how to play mainstream fighting games
-- has a good computer optomized for gaming, preferably with
Here are the events scheduled for Monday, December 19th:
Zilch
8:00 PM eastern
Hosted by Patti W.
Location: Game Zone
Roll the dice and take your chances! Try to snag as many points as
possible but you better know when to quit otherwise, you'll lose it all
and Zilch out! Drop by for some fun and
when i take off can't seem to climb pressing down arrow is sending my nose up i
know that, but i can't get the z key to make altitude climb. also i just seem
to be flying around aimlessly in the free flight mode is this where no enemies
are concerned?
what will be the difference between option
Hi everyone,
I know being taken seriously is a major concern for many of us, but I
think we've pretty much talked the topic into the ground at this
point. So with that said let's begin winding the thread down and get
things back on topic here. There seems to be plenty of other subjects
we could
Hello,
Is there a way to turn down the background main menu music? Some of the
information being displayed is a little hard for me to understand. I
hope that the game will continue to improve steadily with each update.
Alfredo
---
Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org
If you want to
Just downloading the demo now... can't wait... I genuinely couldn't sleep
for excitement...
Ben.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Alfredo_The_Music_maker
Sent: 19 December 2011 07:02
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject:
Hi.
I've found that I also tend to do the proofreading as I write. I'll
usually write a sentence, line or maybe a whole paragraph, then try to
read it carefully to see what I did. I never type with keyboard echo
turned on except on my MBook since it's keyboard is so much smaller I
feel it's a
Hi.
Whoops, I read a whole bunch of messages waiting to see if a moderator
had closed the topic before I commented, but it looks like either I
missed it or you closed it while I was writing my whopper. Apologies for
that.
Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.14 portable.
On 12/19/2011 1:59 AM, Thomas
Hi.
If those games are mud games, you can probably use a mud client like Vip
Mud or Mush Client or Monkey Term and have an easier time of it.
Sent with Thunderbird 3.1.14 portable.
On 12/18/2011 9:12 PM, Laurel wrote:
Hi everybody,
I need some help with something, and even though this isn't
Hi Valiant,
Well, just as long as you know the topic is closed now we are cool. I
would have closed the topic much sooner, but I took the day off to
watch movies with my family, go Christmas shopping, etc and didn't get
back in until late. By the time I read my e-mail the topic had
degenerated
88 matches
Mail list logo
