Hi shaun, well this is probably a let-down for you, but after searching his
Linked-In profile and following him on Twitter, I remembered that I'd contacted
Justin some years ago so thought I would search my hard drive for his name.
I came up empty but I did find a note from someone else whom
Hi I to would like to see a accessible lord of the rings game where you can
pick who you want to be and go through the game as that person say for
instence Gandalf or Frodo or Golum. and I like the idea of a side scroler or
fps lord of the rings game. from Mich.
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Thomas, yes! these are the sorts of ideas we need more of! :) This is what I'm
talkin' about! :)
I think Shaun actually also brought this up as a possibility and it crossed my
mind too but you two beat me to it! :) So thank you for suggesting this. I
think something like this would be a
Hi all. on the topic of the narnia books and if they are christion yes they
in deed are. I once red a book I think it was cald the man who created
narnia and it was a byography but in that book the author took each narnia
book and broke it down to show the christion ellaments for instence he
Not sure. A side scroller, maybe even a 3 D one, would be interesting,
especially when you get to Mordor. Maybe something along the lines of Ark
of Hope.
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I like that second option. Not sure if a joint purchase among developers
would succeed, but I know that hasn't been done very often.
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also if someone can purchase the rights to the titles can they be ported to mac
and iOS for example?
Draconis claim they are having IOS tiles, why not pipe 2 and troopanum for mac
and IOS therefore for example, expanding the community options for these titles
and revive them with new content
True. The way it was worded was basically tat it sounded like you basically
have to bu all our other existing stuff in order to keep our titles alive.
That's what had me upset. Now thhat I think about it I guess it makes sense
but it doesn't make me any happier since I won't be able to keep my
I wouldn't hold my breath. Most of the LOTR games out there aren't that
good. There was one for the Super Nintendo that, while it featured an
excellently Tolkien-ish soundtrack, was in ever other way a total mess.
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And that would give new audio gamers wo discover our little niche only after
the ct-off date the chance to try these amazing and classic games. And now
tat I've had time to think abouut it that more than anything is what upsets
me most about tis. Had I the 75 dollars I would ided fork it over,
I think it was a case of poor wording in the Email. If he'd just said he was
offering a code generator that ulocks all our products I'm sure most of us
would have been less upset LOL. As I say I another Email I'd now happily
fork over the 75 if I had it, but of course being on a fixed income
I would prefer it follow the books more than the movies. Oh I love the
movies, don't get me wrong, but Peter Jackson did make some changes that
explicitly went against Tolkien's writings. That scene with Faramir for one
thing. And I didn't entirely care for the way he remade Aragorn.
But
wEll i won't hold myu breath, but it's worth dreaming and who knows someday
one of our good developers might just do a lord of the rings or hobbit game.
Hint HInt thomas.
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www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
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Agreedd Brian i'd like any game to follow the books, the potter movies did
for the most part, but the ending of movie three was strange. id love to
see harry potter games, but how hard they'd be firstlyy to get copy right
and secondly how complex to write. Just my lisaerish thoughts.
Lisa
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Same with LOTR. You'd have to get a copyright license or whatever.
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Agreedd Brian i'd like any game to
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Yes I myself would love 2 b apart of that. That sounds like a great
plan.
Bfn
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Hi tom.
the issue of language specifically hasn't come up on audiogames.net yet,
since mostly all the games we've seen that have bad language in them
(particularly very offensive bad language), have been adult rated anyway. if
however someone devised a game such as the old robocop arcade game
Hi charlse.
I'm not sure about a none rpg lotr game simply because of the subject
matter. yes, there are now brawlers and other games based on the films, but
those are heavily based around the battle sequences which peter jaxon
heavily extended, indeed the battle of the hornburg in the two
Hi Bryan.
Even by rpg standards that is bad. Plus, annoyingly enough that is
apparently one spc set that cannot be wripped from the cartridge, so while
it has a wonderful soundtrack I've never heard it in full, (if you know
where I might get it please tell me).
Beware the grue!
Dark.
Hi Lisa.
we already have a harry potter game actually in the form of the very good
sarah and the castle of witchcraft and wizardry, go to www.pcsgames.net and
have a look.
All the best,
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I think she means a true Harry Potter game.
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Hi Lisa.
we already have a harry potter game actually in the form of
I only wish I knew. I'd love to get a copy myself. I've only seen two midi
files of music from that game. Both were versions of the Hobiton theme. And
one was quite off the mark and in any case was incomplete.
But thou must!
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Hi Mich and all,
That would be interesting although I'm not too sure where the
copyrights stand. I believe the books are themselves in the public
domain, but since Warner Brothers has made the movies a few years back
certainly the music, movie dialog, and some other stuff like that are
Hi Dark,
Agreed. A lot of the LOTR brawlers and action games out there simply
go from battle to battle and are based on Peter Jackson's re
envisioning of LOTR for the movies. That makes sense given that game
developers are interested in producing an action game and a lot of the
books were simply
Hi Dark,
Right. We haven't had a lot of games with swearing, but it was merely
my point that informing parents that this or that game contains
offensive language rather than rating a game for T for Teen makes a
whole lot more sense to me. As it explains why this or that game was
rated the way it
Hi Lisa,
There is the rub as usual. Any extremely popular series like Harry
Potter is copyrighted to the max, and there is no way a small time
developer like myself can come close to affording the royalties for
it. Then, in order to actually do the game justice we would need
actors and actresses
Hi Lisa,
Hint taken, but as I said before copyrights are a factor. The LOTR
books themselves may be in the public domain, I'm not sure, but if not
I could seriously get fried by some copyright holder if I wrote a game
assuming it was OK and Warner Brothers or someone took me to court
over it. :D
Hi tom.
Just as a correction, the copywrite for lotr was actually renewed In I
believe 2001, and is now owned by tolkien's grand daughter. This is also why
Christopher tolkien comparatively recently released a new translation of
Children of Hurin which he'd peaced together from tolkien's
Hi Tom.
I agree completely. It's actually for this reason I'm looking forward to
seeing some of Sam ruby's other lotr eamon games converted to Eamon deluxe.
i've played some of them, such as one in which you must enter mirkwood and
rescue aragorn from the fortress of Dol guldur, but while his
Hi Tom and all. as a huge lotr fan my self I would very much welcome a audio
game of lotr. I can even pervide the bbc radio play if needed for sounds
etc. I also really loved the lotr movies but not the hobbit movie so much. I
to say go for it. as for what Dark said it is true. Tolkien's son
Hi Tom.
I agree, particularly given as we've said the often very arbitrary
catagorizations that are usedd to determine what is wrated as teen etc.
Beware the grue!
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Will also just say there are various interactive fiction format versions of
the original, stand-alone IF game, the hobbit out there, including one joke
version, where Gandalf smokes certain things, etc. etc. - that one's called
something like The hobbit, the true story - but, some of them are
Hi Thomas,
The LOTR books are still copyrighted.
The Dungeons and Dragons books got around copyright by calling their half
sized humanoids Halflings instead of hobbits.
Other creatures like Elves and Gnomes are generic names that have been used
for centuries and thus can't be copyrighted.
I found an audio version of that joke Hobbit game. Pretty funy.
But thou must!
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From: Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 9:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] LOTR Games was Children's Games
Will also just say there are various
Now that would be cool - to hear actual character voices for those versions
of some of the guys...LOL!
Jacob Kruger
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Hi Bryan,
I agree. In hindsight I think Justin should have said he was selling a
key generator that unlocks all of your products for $75 and that
probably would have been the end of it.. As it is I think he wanted to
sweeten the deal by making it sound like we are buying all this great
stuff when
Hi Will,
In theory yes. Unfortunately, I just got done talking to Justin about
that very issue and unfortunately he says he no longer has the source
code to any of the programs on the Blindsoftware.com site. That means
although it would be nice to port these games to Mac OS, the Apple
iPhone, and
Hi Charles,
Well, we can still raise the money to buy the key generator and games
and host them on Audyssey, but from the sounds of it getting the
source code and continuing development of these games is a done deal.
I got a message from Justin a couple hours ago where he explained he
no longer
Yeah. Like I said I wouldn't mind paying for it but like a lot of folks I
just don't have the cash and more than likely won't before te cut-off date.
But thou must!
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Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 10:20 AM
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Subject: Re:
Hi Cara,
Yeah, I think community driven would be better. If we could get
someone to donate the key generator to Audyssey.org I'd be happy to
host the setup files for the games, and generate keys for the public
as a free service. As you said yourself we the community have to help
each other in
Hi Dark,
Exactly. A Sapi driven or text based RPG could cover so much more than
a side-scroller or FPS which tend to be linier in nature. The typical
action game simply goes from level to level without a lot of option to
explore the world as it were and travel from town to town, level up
skills,
Hi Phil,
Right. Yeah, I forgot about that. Of course, I think an audio game
developer could do essentially the same thing as the Dungeons and
Dragons books by borrowing generic fantasy elements of Lord of the
Rings such as goblins, trolls, gnomes, etc and instead of call the
Hobbits Hobbits use
The problem I have with an RPG is the extensive set of rules. Those I have
encountered seem to have been so lengthy! I don't enjoy a game that uses a
large book of exceptions to a lengthy set of rules. This is why I would
prefer a side scroller. There would be room for exploration if the
Hi Dark and Brian.
A good place for soundtracks of all flavours is Galbadia Hotel,
http://gh.ffshrine.org though I don't know whether they'll have the game
soundtrack you specifically want, their collection is very extensive.
All the best, Ibrahim.
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They don't. I checked. That particular soundtrack is apparently unrippable.
But thou must!
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Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 12:12 PM
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Hi Dark and Brian.
A
Hi tom.
another problem with generic conceptsparticularly in fantasy settings, is
that they miss out on all the history, linguistic beauty and world that
middle earth contains, and can often basically appear just as the standard
DD world with nothing really creatively new about it.
While I
Hi charlse.
This is a design issue with rpgs, however if they are properly! designed
then you shouldn't have to read through the rules accept as reference
occasionally, or maybe have a short introduction.
Again, this is something great about eamon, since the system is so simple to
Hi Ibrahim.
I've known about galbadia for a while and have got various soundtracks from
them, though last I checked they didn't have the snes lotr game, but I do
know stuff gets uploaded frequently so it might be worth checking again.
Beware the grue!
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Thomas,
You may want to ask Justin how he feels about the key generator and
files being community released like you're proposing. His
distribution rights allow him to limit that, and it will definitely
cut into his revenue to promise that the community will buy one copy
and share it all over the
Hi Shaun,
Well, that idea might work for some games, but not others. What I mean
by that depending on how the game is designed it might not be able to
be broken up into modules or separate components like that.
For example, take the game Shades of Doom. You couldn't break that
game up into
Hi Dennis,
I certainly intend to do that. At this point using the key generator
as community property was merely an idea and isn't set in stone.
Obviously, Audyssey.org is here to do things legally, by the book so
to speak, so we are in communication with Justin to try and see what
can and can't
Hi Charles,
I don't think Dark or I was suggesting anything quite as complex as
you are talking about below. You are thinking of something like
Dungeons and Dragons, which is indeed pretty extensive, but a roll
playing game does not have to be nearly as complex and heavily based
on rules as that.
Hi Dark,
Agreed. I sincerely doubt any side-scroller could cover the whole of
Middle Earth unless a developer wanted to dedicate the rest of his
life to writing the game. For one thing you are limited to a 2d format
where the only directions are left, right, up, and down. There isn't
any north,
Silly man throwing away his source code
At 02:38 AM 4/20/2013, you wrote:
Hi Charles,
Well, we can still raise the money to buy the key generator and games
and host them on Audyssey, but from the sounds of it getting the
source code and continuing development of these games is a done deal.
I
Hi Dark,
I take your point, and agree with it in principle. I would feel the
same way if someone took something like Star Trek and renamed all the
ships, technology, and alien races in order to avoid copyrights and by
doing so lose all the history, main characters, and pretty much
everything else
Hi tom.
I deffinately agree on the text adventure and parza idea, however one
problem with character picking is balancing the game.
Lets say you made a lotr game. Well doing hobbiton to rivendell would be
relatively easy, provided aragorn was an npc since your four principle
characters are
I'm thinking that this would be a game I would have to try. Not that I like
only easily learned games, but having never encountered an RPG other than
Dungeon and Dragons and one other that was sort of similar, I've figured
that they are mostly along the same idea, and I have been mistaken. A
Sound creation sure would be time consuming, and the north/south
restrictions would be even worse, and unrealistic. And you're most likely
right about the RPGs not being as I thought.
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Hi Dark,
True enough. However, it is still none-the-less a personal risk.
Weather anything comes of it or not is anyone's guess.
That said, there is still quite a bit of wiggle room when it comes to
copyrights. There are some gray areas such as fan fiction that is
seriously challenging the big
Hi tom.
It's also worth noting that as far as rules and rpgs go, if you've got a
good m, you don't even need to be a rules master for tabletop games either.
i played six months of our mutants and masterminds campeigne before our gm
bought me a copy of the rules in pdf format as a christmas
I was going to buy it at the end of the month if the budgit allowed it, but
if you've already done it...
Shane
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Hi tom.
well I don't mind generic fantasy concepts in games, but history and
background can mean so much more. There are plenty of Eamon games (and
others), which basically take the form of adventurer going into generic
undergorund dungeon full of goblins, rats etc, grabbing treasure and
HI Charlse.
It sounds as if you got a bad intro to rpgs really, especially if your DD
gm didn't give you a full introduction. i'd recommend taking a look at some
of the gamebooks around the net on sites like fighting fantasy project or
project.aon, or maybe games like sryth, plus if you have
Hi Dark,
Lol! Yeah, I think Tolkien would be pretty surprised at such Dungeons
and Dragons type characters, because they were designed for a special
game system and not really to tell a story the way the characters in
LOTR were. None of the wizards in LOTR are strengthless wimps, and
none of the
He writes emails like he's writing text messages. So, he uses 2 instead
of to or too and b instead of be. I'm certainly no grammar cop or
anything, but that's just lazy 2 me. Just kidding. To me.
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On 4/18/2013 9:19 AM, Bryan Peterson
Hi Tom.
You are right, coorporations these days just think they can push people
around and exact money, despite whether it is reasonable or not. For
instance, some cinemas have started disallowing people from taking their own
sweets and drinks in, despite the fact that the cinema charges
Sound creation alone for such a game might be tough since you'd have to
score areas from Hobbiton to Rivendell to Moria, Cirith Ungol, etc. As I
said the Super Nintendo game, which was based on Fellowship of the Ring, did
ann excellent job at least as far as the music went. In every other
That's one thing I like about Sryth. The GM clearly put a lot of thought
into his world and the creatures and people who live in it.
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Hi Tom.
that is one reason I don't particularly like the DD character system. it
worked for dungeons and dragons, but I always think it's interesting to see
it changed.
for example, in one varient of the roguelike Angband there is a really
interesting barbarian class. As a barbarian they
Hi Bryan.
i agree on sryth, the world and setting are great, for all I really don't!
like where the gm decided to take things after such a promising start with
all the adventurer tocan sinks, need to donate to the game etc. Still, the
world is beautifully worked out and when the gm bothers to
And it confuses screen readers. I'd hate to see that in a text adventure
game LOL.
But thou must!
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Subject: [Audyssey] Numbers in emails Re: BlindSoftware.com Is Closing
He
Hi,
I'm looking for Rauls game recordings. Since his website still seems to be
offline, I wanted to ask if someone here on list maybe has his recordings
archived and can upload them on dropbox or sendspace or something? I
honestly thought I saved them myself, but I can't find them anywhere,
The only one I have now is his Review of Blast chamber. I used to have a
few of them.
Curt Taubert
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On 4/19/2013 5:49 PM, Sarah Haake wrote:
Hi,
I'm looking for Rauls game recordings. Since his website still seems
to be offline, I wanted to ask
I'm not sure I understand your question fully, but I'll give it
a shot. At the moment, almost everything in the game is
accessable to all classes. This is going to change in the near
future, and has already begun to do so. As far as commands go,
the help system ingame can be quite useful if
Thanks for catching the tap to click. That was my major issue
with the game, and in hindsight I really should have remembered
it, heh. My personal solution was to open the right-click menu
for my mouse's system tray icon, and there was an option for
tap-to-click. I'm not sure if this is
Hi,
yeah, I have this review too, because it comes with the game. I'm looking
for the others, there was a whole bunch of them on his website.
Best regards
Sarah
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yeah, I have this review too, because it comes with the game. I'm looking
for the others, there was a whole bunch of them on his website.
Best regards
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Let me check on my desktop. I think I still have several of them their.
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On 4/19/2013 6:19 PM, Sarah Haake wrote:
Hi,
yeah, I have this review too, because it comes with the game. I'm
looking for the others, there was a whole bunch
Hi Dark,
Now, that is probably doable. Taking donations for sounds, music, etc
but releasing he game as free fan fiction would probably not raise a
stink with anyone over copyrights. I might be able to get away with
selling a Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, or Star Trek game, but I don't
know if I
Hi.
I have his faull walkthrus for superliam, Shades, gma tank commander, pipe2,
hunter and the 17 original lone wolf missions. I'm at my parents right now,
while the walkthrus are on my laptop back in my flat where I will be on
thursday, but if nobody has found them by then I can always bang
Hi Dark,
Exactly my point. In a text adventure/RPG system there is more than
one route a person could take. They could travel north through the
Gray Mountains, they could travel straight through Mirkwood, or to the
south through Guldor. Either way would offer different adventures and
different
Hi Dark,
ok, sounds like you have most of them. It would be great if you could upload
them if noone else has them by thursday then, thanks for that!
You are right, it would be good if these files could be hosted somewhere. I
like all his recordings too, and of course I'd like to hear new
Hi Tom.
well donations would be fine with me, and I can understand you not taking
the risk though I am reasonably certain they wouldn't take it through the
legal system anyway simply because of how ridiculous it'd look, and
which thousands of dollars couldd they claime for from an audio
Hi Tom.
well that sounds a fair arrangement to me, though I'd worry that I was
getting all the fun :D.
Seriously I would very much like to help with that sort of thing since
writing descriptively is one thing I can! do.
the only thing that worries me in terms of you making a lotr game, is
Hi Sarah.
i will certainly upload them if I can.
Beware the grue!
Dark.
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Hi
yeah, I know, I had the cash.
It was steep as but I decided to get it.
maybe after bsc closes who knows.
At 11:01 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
True. The way it was worded was basically tat it sounded like you
basically have to bu all our other existing stuff in order to keep
our titles alive.
not necessarily, they will apear publically at
some point, it just would be nice of justin
officially did the permition thing but they will
appear reguardless of what happens.
and if you know what to do there are ways even now.
At 11:07 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
And that would give new audio
well as it stands my funding issues are not as
bad as I thought they would be, sertainly cheaper than expected.
Never the less I have just used my software
upgrade budget for this year and then some.
At 11:10 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
I think it was a case of poor wording in the
Email. If he'd
there is a lord of the rings well in a shorter version.
its one of the eamon deluxe adventures.
At 11:54 PM 4/19/2013, you wrote:
wEll i won't hold myu breath, but it's worth dreaming and who knows
someday one of our good developers might just do a lord of the rings
or hobbit game. Hint HInt
Hi Charles,
Yes, I think starting with a simple roll playing game based in a
fantasy story or world you are familiar with would be the way to go.
As Dark pointed out usually all the rules, stats, and whatever is
handled by the game master anyway and isn't usually up to the player
to begin with.
well if you are meaning the community project, I am willing to allow
full access to the community after blindsoftware closes.
I have payed the 75 bucks us for the games.
now if justin wants to charge a bit for the source, there is that
much less for the community to fork.
I am perfectly happy
Hi Dark,
Lol! There is the rub. I am so far behindit seems I will never catch
up. I was pretty sick a lot last year so didn't do much programming on
anything for close to 10 months so if I did a LOTR game it would just
end up on the pile of evrything else to do. That's not to say I'm not
what would be needed to donate the entire lot to audyssey.
again I stress, I was going to put things up on
my dropbox to share I need to share for backup reasons to myself anyway.
after blindsoftware closes I intend to upload the
games and share them with everyone.
on the other hand if this is
what about writing lotr and hobbit as tactical battle maps?
true its not a full game but its less fiddling round.
At 05:12 AM 4/20/2013, you wrote:
Hi Phil,
Right. Yeah, I forgot about that. Of course, I think an audio game
developer could do essentially the same thing as the Dungeons and
I believe, but cannot confirm, that there was something on
audiogames.net talking about various sound file decrypting. A
common method seemed to be an archive file type, something used
on a gaming platform? A lot of the above is pretty vague, but I'm
pretty sure the info is out there
true my idea was to have a game which would cost a small ammount, the
next section would cost the same.
each section say an adventure would end on a cliff hanger of sorts or
something, so you would buy it in bits.
my thought was that every piece you had would load the next so once
you have
just putting in something i forgot.
a lot of games in mainstream you pay for have free or payed for
downloadable content.
in some cases the game iteself is free but extra stuff would be payed for.
At 06:58 AM 4/20/2013, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Well, that idea might work for some games, but not
I happened to find a few on my vista computer.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/44174816/tutorial%202.zip
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