You go boy! If you are using Mailman you shouldn't have any problems
dealing with the offender(s).
On 14/12/2013 23:44, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hello, List:
The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like all
of you. This was a clear, targeted attack against us, and
Hi Che.
Appologies for the name mess up, I do actually know how your name is spealt
that was just a slip of the fingers. Interestingly enough, Scansoft Daniel
actually pronounces it correctly as well.
I could actually imagine a racing game like RR on Ios working extremely
well. Since it
Hello;
My name is Shane Davidson, owner of the company that provides hosting
services for both the Audyssey and USAGames interactive websites.
My staff became aware both yesterday and early this morning of some very
despicable behavior by one member, (or x-member, this is yet to be
determined).
Hello.
Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny that seeing the huge volume of
insulting and s/xually explicit mesages, (especially those supposedly from
myself), was not pleasant, I do know this was obviously one idiot, and I am
glad steps are being taken to stop them from doing such
I see somebody's at it again, posting in my name. Oh boy.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at iTunes!
If you want to reach me, you can call 419-744-0517, friend
I keep having the samemessage from this stupid topic over 100 times in fact,
very spammy.
-Original Message-
From: Philip Bennefall
Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2013 11:23 PM
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: [Audyssey] WEDHESDAY WEBHESDAY ukkjyvcdmf
BGT SUCKS FUCK YOU RON AND TOMMY
The freakiest part for me was that the very first message I saw was supposedly
from me. For a second or two, I actually thought I had some kind of virus it
freaked me out…
Good is the worst enemy of best.
Ken
On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:27 AM, dark d...@xgam.org wrote:
Hello.
Thanks for the
So did i,it really scared me especially as the message itself was very badly
written incontent.
-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Downey
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:15 AM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
The
Hello everyone,
Anyone knows any online games where i can build a company? I only know
kapilands and kapiregnum. are there any other games?
Matteo.
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Please, stop that!
thanks much.
Angela from Italy
Il 14/12/2013 22:41, Cara Quinn ha scritto:
Audysseyers,
As a job, I model in the nude. This is because I cannot code good things. But,
I am a good voice actress when it comes to being pounded with a cock in the
vagina and the ass. I do this
Hi.
Well there are a couple listed over on the games to play online page at
www.whitestick.co.uk. These including the game perfect competition, and the
scifi business mud Federation Ii, (set in a sf universe but very much
economics based).
Indeed, in terms of business it's also worth
and even starmule and trucker too.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: dark d...@xgam.org
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] business games
Hi.
Well there are a
Well darren to be honest I never really got into any of the reset games
since most of them are things like Ogam that were heavily based on pvp which
I just don't find interesting.
The only game I ever fancied that did appear interesting and have resets was
waring factions, but I've never been
Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim
which can also be found on whitestick's directory.
There is then also Mississippi (though I wasn't as keen on that one, however
I think this was specifically a request for information about online games.
Beware the
There's also Reign, but that's more like running a country, but basically the
same thing.
http://www.reign.ws
Tyler Z
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 11:14:43 -, dark wrote:
Indeed Lisa, in fact you mentioning truckers reminded me of trucking sim
which can also be found on whitestick's directory.
Hi all,
I know Shane has addressed this subject, but as list owner and
moderator I thought I would stress this again. Sometime yesterday an
individual posing as various upstanding list members sent a number of
sexually explicit and demeaning posts to the list. If you get any of
these messages
Yes, I forgot about reign, although with the mnilitary attacks etc I'm not
sure how much it'd count as business.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
- Original Message -
From: Tyler programmer...@comcast.net
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 11:17 AM
Uh? I did not send this message, but someone sent this message for me.
Talk about insane. Now the spammer is spoofing the moderator?
On 12/14/13, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello, List:
The spam that has been sent to this list is appalling. I am disgusted, like
all of you.
Oh dear, I never knew! As I said I use VS Pro because I have easy and legal
access to it, and one of the first things I always do is set up an x86 and x64
cross-build. In fact, I'm almost tempted to go x64 exclusively. Not sure why
Microsoft thinks VS Express is good for you. :)
Davy
Hi Josh,
Well, that is just it. I know a blind user can use the Mac without a
monitor, but I also have a son who is sighted. I try to make sure
anything I have can be used by my son and any other sighted users in
my family just in case they want to use it. So if the Mac Mini was
just for myself I
Hi Davy,
That is hard to say, but I think VS Express is just another
half-hearted attempt by Microsoft to compete with Mac and Linux.
Microsoft knows if someone buys a Mac they can get and install XCode
for free, and they are good to go. A Linux user can install various
command line compilers and
Hello Tommy,
As you may already be aware some one has been spamming the Audyssey
list faking real member addresses. The messages are not coming from
Cara, Ken, Dark, Philip, or anyone else who has been a long standing
member of this list with a good reputation. The hosting company and I
are doing
Davy,
Corona, as with other cross platform SDKs can also break accessibility. Just
something to be aware of.
Thanks,
Cara :)
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Um, i must strongly disagree with Che’s point about the lack of replayability
in IoS games. I replay Papa Sangre games and (lord help me) Soul Trapper a lot.
Also, Papa sangre II has been very popular in the “mainstream” community as
well. I think that in order to market accessible games, it’s
Hi Cara,
good point. One reason I chose to write my own game engine was for
precisely that reason. I found a lot of game engines, toolkits, etc
that were cross-platform but they always seemed to be inaccessible in
one way or another. I can't speak for Corona specifically, but I do
know
Hello Stephen,
As has been stated on list before we are working on the problem.
Please, be patient.
Thanks.
On 12/14/13, Stephen whocr...@internode.on.net wrote:
Can someone please get rid of this disgusting individual?
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Hi,
I bought my Toshiba about five years ago. The only thing that needed
servicing, after two years, was the keyboard - Q9 and Pipe2 had me hittin' that
Control key and spacebar a little too much. I arranged pick-up on Friday, they
came to collect on Monday, and came to return four days
Hi Teresa.
I agree with you on replay, even in some of the basic games. I've replayed
choice of the dragon three times over and still haven't seen all of the
game, simply because as a gamebook it is highly replayable, and lets not
forget king of dragon pass with it's random set of events and
Hi,
In all fairness, Eclipse is an excellent IDE on Windows too. I use it all the
time for Java and am told that it is just as awesome for C++. The only reason
I have VS 2012 installed is because I was working on a plugin project whose
binaries had to be compiled with VC++ in order to work.
Hi Sabahattin,
Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been
spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the
list he also sent a number of fake moderator messages too which might
have given some people here some false sense of security given that he
yep, that's certainly true. windows based computer companies, are, if
anything, worse then apple, when it comes to repairs. you may, or may
not, get a fully working system back. lol. herd stories from a friend
of mine of sending his laptop in for repairs, only to have it come
back with more
Hi Davy,
You will get no argument from me on that. Eclipse by and large is one
of the best IDES out there for C++ or Java on any platform. There are
times though where binary compatibility requires Visual C++ so having
it is necessary for certain projects. Otherwise Eclipse with MinGW all
the
Now i am confused you didn't send that thomas? who the dickens did/
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice:
oh true, but they are still good games even though not played on line. Their
was also a trade game for the old eureka computer written in cpm can't
recall the name their was an adult and a normal version if i recall.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
Hi Cara,
Smile. You misunderstood what I meant by my comment. Of course, I know
Mac's come with the OS and the developer tools are free. My comment
was meant to convey the point that you can't just buy the software and
run it in a virtual machine as that isn't legal. You have to actually
own the
I wondr who this person was that was sending so many unwelcome messages
to the list? Last time a list was spammed it was coming from some blind
person in the middle east somewhere.
using windows7 laptop
On 12/15/2013 4:27 AM, dark wrote:
Hello.
Thanks for the appologgy. While I won't deny
maybe they'll disconnect his internet?
using windows7 laptop
On 12/15/2013 9:09 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Sabahattin,
Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only has he been
spamming the list by faking e-mail addresses and sending porn to the
list he also sent a number of fake
Hi Lisa,
The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken, Philip, Cara, etc and then turn
around and sent at least three moderator messages pretending to be me
saying we are working on it. For the record I didn't even know about
this mess
I saw about 3 pages of messages. We had a problem similar to this on the
sightexchange email list.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Lisa,
The same jackass who has been sending all the other trash. He sent a
load of messages pretending to be Ken,
Hi Dallas.
To be honest I wouldn't trust any major coorporation with repares, just
because when you send your computer or phone or whatever off to somewhere
else you have no idea where it is, when you get it back or what's going on
with it.
If I ever need a repare I know a very nice local
Hi, logged into threshhold mudd for the first time and am trying to make a
character. first step is picking a name. I noticed that it gets to step 6
wich is about not picking a name that is a modern name, and then it says
press enter to continue. I hit enter but the same thing is on the
Whoever it is should be banned from using the list.
-Original Message-
From: Josh
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:40 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
I wondr who this person was that was sending so many unwelcome
Well, Dark, you don’t trust any corporations with anything. I mostly don’t
either, but I think that taking middle ground on such things puts people more
in the ballpark of reality. Not *all* corporations are evil, any more than
*all* people are.
To answer the question you posed, you can
Aside from outside sighted individuals who might just want to use it, I'd
have a monitor simply because you never know what may or may not happen to
the computer. I've had instances where I'll boot up my PC and have no screen
reader for whatever reason, and it's nice to just have a screen on hand
Fortunately, in over 8 years of being a Mac user, I have never had to resort to
a sighted person for help. It’s one of the advantages of ditching Windows. :)
On Dec 15, 2013, at 11:23 AM, hayden presley hdpres...@hotmail.com wrote:
Aside from outside sighted individuals who might just want to
Hi
i was going to suggest this, put us all on emergency moderation until
this has all been stopped, i am not playing moderator here, just
offering a suggestion. Regards Chris.
On 15/12/2013 14:09, Thomas Ward wrote:
Hi Sabahattin,
Thanks. This creep seriously needs to get busted. Not only
Yeah, Apple are very good with repairs in my experience. They replaced the
same optical drive in my oldest Mac Mini, twice, with just seventeen days left
on the warranty. For desktops, they'll come to your home, and if you don't
have packing material, they'll also send along the box with the
Ah, I loved Secret of Mana on the SNES. I beat it, multiple times I think.
Secret of Mana happens to be a game that would be very difficult to make
accessible, even on a computer.
And when doing so an accessible game author would likely make heavy use of
extra shortcut keys for the player to
Hey Charles, see if you have better luck with this.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/96692612/SpaceAttackDemoSetup.exe
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
www.ThePionEar.net/BlindLabyrinth.html .
Also, check out, The Believer and Skeptic Show, at
hi,
yes i know games of this type do have a form of rinse and repete style of play
to some degree. i don't mind that so much if you can make a mark and have
something to show for it.
right now i'm playing furry paws. initially i completely dismissed it because
of what i thought the game was.
I just don’t think that complexity of the game necessarily correlates with
replayability. I happen to prefer first-person shooters, trivia, and word
games, and these are games I can play over and over again. I played
Terraformers so many times i can’t count. I also don’t think accessibility
Hello Lori,
It isn't quite that simple. The people responsible for the spam
attacks were faking e-mail addresses of various legitimate list
members, and obviously the e-mails did not actually come from those
members themselves. However, Mailman, the list software we use, has no
way of knowing if
He did this crap a few years ago. Just look for a lister who has
consistantly bad grammar and poor use of punctuation. I already have a
theory as to who it is, but I'm not pointing any fingers just yet.
Check out my games at
www.ThePionEar.net
and my music, and that of my band, at
This topic has come up on another thread, and it jogged my memory of seeing an
interesting article while looking at some other things. I find this fascinating.
http://tinyurl.com/FirstPersonPsych
Teresa
Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman
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I think that anyone who jeopardizes such a wonderful lists, security should be
forcibly removed, once they are found. This type of behaviour just, isn't,
acceptable.
Lindsay Cowell
-original message-
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
From: Thomas Ward
I am not sure how the genre of games are classified, but I do know one
thing for certain, there has been a lot of controversy about violence
and stuff like that over games like this, and in my previous research I
discovered that the long you are exposed to it, the more hard-wired it
is going
I'm interested in this truckers, and trucker sim, where can you find
both of these?
On 12/15/13, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote:
hi,
yes i know games of this type do have a form of rinse and repete style of
play to some degree. i don't mind that so much if you can make a
I don’t think games have to be about killing people. Killing monsters and
zombies is fine. :) Or you could make it somewhat abstract and have to react to
something in a split second. Change reaction comes to mind. It has some
elements of both a puzzle and a shooter. I play that game quite a
I agree that complexity does not necessarily correlate with replayability.
And it's obvious that many games can be made accessible without a keyboard,
especially if the only interface is a menu.
And the gyroscopes can definitely make up for some of the loss of a keyboard in
games like Papa
How do you define a monster, in theory?
A monster is a dehumanised creature with characteristics of evil. A
zombie is a legendary creature from which a human once died. When it
comes to playing things to dehumanising a creature, it allows us to feel
less tender-hearted towards that creature so
Oh, I have to admit that I love horror and a certain amount of violence. It
gets the adrenaline flowing and scares the crud out of me, and i get a rush. If
I still get a rush from it, and I play the same amount at the same level, I
suppose I’m not getting terribly desensitized. :)
Teresa
Also love reading horror books because I enjoy foreshadowing what is
going to happen next. A few years ago I got caught up on reading all of
the R. L. Stine books.
I still believe that we can enjoy whatever we want as long as we are
open-minded. I know a few individuals who have been affected
I would like to see the perpetrators cut off from the Internet entirely.
Can't be done, though, unless they were imprisoned, which isn't too bad of
an idea, either.
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you! really! are! finished!
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The decisions you make in life should not be based on those you make in a
violent game. If you cannot separate the two, you shouldn't be playing the
games. That's where self control and or supervision at a young
impressionable age are necessary.
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I agree, and the same goes for those stupid hackers and cheaters on Swamp
and other games.
-Original Message-
From: Charles Rivard
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 8:19 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] a message from this lists hosting provider.
I would like to
Exactly, I enjoyed playing games like that but because my attention was
distracted elsewhere, I never got addicted to those games, though I know
a few who have and they say because it has a lot of replay value.
On 12/15/2013 12:22 PM, Charles Rivard wrote:
The decisions you make in life should
Sopme folk are just criminals.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who tried
to take Liams game and pass it off as his own a few years ago?
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Lisa Hayes
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:54 PM
To: Gamers
I know someone from the playroom who had similar mannerisms. I forgot
his user name, but he said he was Steve and he was forty--two. He liked
crashing everyone's screen readers.
On 12/15/2013 1:00 PM, Sky Mundell wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ivan Fegunduz. Remember that man who
I tried to find this mud on mud connector, but it wasn't listed. Do you have
the information for it?
Shannon
On Dec 15, 2013, at 10:28 AM, K ks.steinbac...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, logged into threshhold mudd for the first time and am trying to make a
character. first step is picking a name. I
who is using my name!!!
- Original Message -
From: Ken Downey kenwdow...@thepionear.net
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 12:21 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] qcibtuyvvlyckymfrura
HAIRY BUTTHOLE HAIRY BUTTHOLE HAIRY BUTTHOLE! THOMAS WARD THINKS HE CAN
MOD THE LIST BUT I
Why do they like doing it though, it doesn't make sense to me at all.
-Original Message-
From: Ulysses Garcia
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 9:04 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Moderator Notice: Recent Mesages
I know someone from the playroom who had similar
Hello List,
As all of you or at least most of you know by now yesterday around
4:00 PM Eastern Standard Time an unnamed perpetrator/perpetrators
began sending various sexually explicit messages disguised as
legitimate list members to the list. Along with the sexually explicit
messages they also
Hi Lori,
Cheap thrills. Some people have really antisocial behaviors like
hurting people, messing things up for others, or just breaking things
because they can. It doesn't make sense to you because you are a kind,
caring, and decent person. They lack those qualities, and for that
reason are
Probably because they have no life and can think of nothing better to do
with their time. That and they're just perverted.
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message-
From: loriduncan
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 2:49 PM
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re:
There must be a reason, Thomas, why they feel this way. I try to take
the perspective of a scientist. What would they say, that they lacked
serotonin or something of the sort?
I talked a lot about this on my blog at
http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/ If you have any more to say I
In my opinion, they didn’t get addicted to them because they have a lot of
replay value. They got addicted to them because those folks had little or no
self-control.
Teresa
Slow down; you'll get there faster.
On Dec 15, 2013, at 12:36 PM, Ulysses Garcia birdlover2...@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I don't doubt it. I don't have personal experience with that toolkit, I just
heard LWorks used it. The only cross-platform tools I have experience with
revolve around Java, and I can say that providing an accessible GUI on Mac and
Windows from one code-base isn't too hard. Now to see
Hi all,
I hope it is safe to resubscribe again at this point. I started receiving
enormous amounts of horrible spam around 4 AM this morning where some
immature individual with way too much time on their hands impersonated list
members including myself. I unsubscribed after removing the first
Hi Philip,
Yes, it should be safe to resub to the list. If you receive my status
message it explains where we are right now in this situation. I
believe we have stopped or at least slowed the spam for the time being
and we are keeping an eye on things to make sure our perp doesn't get
away with
I think it's because the people who make games for the blind don't include
video. When I first heard about
games for the blind, I imagined a video game where you don't need the video
part, but it's there. Like a
mainstream game that sighted people play that also has accessible features. So
This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of
other lists that goes on for a couple of days, then is squashed. My advice,
ignore it, don't leave the list, don't respond, even when he begins
threatening people or trying to slag their good names. He's mentally ill
and
hi chris
what is it some kind of torettes syndrome or and ADHD combination?
Sent from my iPad
On 15 Dec 2013, at 22:23, Christopher Bartlett
atouchofrevere...@gmail.com wrote:
This bears a striking resemblance to the behavior of someone on a couple of
other lists that goes on for a
The slight worry I have is that, because some of the emails appeared to come
from known members, I opened a few and one said that if you open this one
you will get a virus on your computer. will this happen? I didn't open any
more once I relised that the emails were spam?
Amanda
You're probably right ihave my own suspicions as to who it is, but i'm not
saying except in a private note to thomas, i can't affor the liable suite,
grin.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Sky Mundell s...@shaw.ca
To: 'Gamers Discussion
It really depends. Some people do indeed get hooked because they believe a
game has replay value. Then of course you do have the other sort.
They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!
-Original Message-
From: Teresa Cochran
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 3:01 PM
To: Gamers Discussion
If this is who I think it is, and it is a similar enough modus operandi to
be likely, he is mentally ill. Please be kind, even though you have
suffered some annoyance, and in the cases of the people he has impersonated
possible actual harm, since the messages are now forever and findable on the
This is an interesting point, actually. Can the messages be removed from the
archives? I would not particularly enjoy having these things found when
doing a Google search for my name.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Bartlett
Hi Chris, lol that last line of your email sent me into fits laughing, I
hardly ever fly into rages, but hackers spammers and cheaters really make me
mad.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Bartlett
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:52 PM
To: 'Gamers Discussion list'
Subject: Re:
Hi Philip, isn't there a program you can run which automatically removes
spam before it can reach the list? Maybe it could be re-directed to bounce
back to the owner? From Lori.
-Original Message-
From: Philip Bennefall
Sent: Sunday, December 15, 2013 10:57 PM
To: Gamers Discussion
Hello! Did any of you play the text adventures in the IF Comp this year?
http://www.ifcomp.org/comp13
Tyler Z
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Hi Philip,
Yes, they can, but it will take a bit of work. It will require
grabbing the archive file, and manually deleting them from the
archives and then replacing the archives with the edited ones. It is
possible to do and I was strongly considering something like this
anyway.
Cheers!
On
Hi Lori,
The spam wasn't actually sent from the email accounts from which it seemed
to originate. The email addresses were set correctly, but the SMTP server of
the sender is entirely different from mine and this is how they can
potentially be traced. So there is nothing that I can do locally
Great to know, Thomas. I, and I'm sure the other people who's names were
used, would appreciate that. I imagine a regular expression could be used to
speed up the procedure considerably.
Kind regards,
Philip Bennefall
- Original Message -
From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com
Hi Amanda,
No. None of the messages were infected with viruses. We have Mailman
configured to strip attachments, and remove any potential infected
files before reaching the list.
It was just the perp's way of messing with your head, scaring you, and
taking advantage of your lack of knowledge
Thanks to you and anyone else that takes the time to fix these issues! We
are most grateful for all that you all do to keep us safe so that we can
enjoy this list. Now lets get back to gaming!
-Original Message-
From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward
I am intending on newer methods of mental illness that are more
comprehensive, more effective and naturopathic than the ones
pharmaceutical companies claim they do.
http://sensationexperience.wordpress.com/
On 12/15/2013 2:37 PM, amanda burt wrote:
The slight worry I have is that, because some
I second this message thank the gaming gods for thomasss, the real thomas,
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
- Original Message -
From: Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com
To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: Re:
Well secret of Mana I know very well. As a teenager I combined playing
cooperatively and watching a sighted friend of mine, (since I could see
most of the characters providing they weren't in a zone with low contrast).
There are several interesting points about the mobile version of secret of
What a good idea and destroy their net access in the process really give
them some curry to deal with.
Lisa Hayes
www.nutrimetics.com.au/lisahayes
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