Hi Thomas,
Thanks, at least it is not me this time. Sure would be nice to have direct
access to what must be a humongous amount of information though.
208 File(s)477,147,762 bytes
BTW while looking at the folder, I found a matching chi file for each chm file.
Like you said,
Hi Dark,
Well, in some cases the manuals are html. For instance, my manual was
written in html 4.0 simply so it could be read cross-platform.
However, if I wanted to create a chm help file all I'd have to do is
make a few tag changes, and compile it with the Microsoft HTML Help
SDK and I'd have a
Hi,
In my Visual Studio (VB6) folder there are 208 chm files. Here is one of them.
File Name: kb.chm
Size: 111.12MB
Download Link:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/174c1f
Ok, so I click on the kb.chm file. It says knowledge base, type in the key
word to find. Well really I would like to
Hi Jim,
What you are looking at is the Microsoft knowledge base for VB 6. I
don't think you can view those chm files individually. I think they
are linked in someway so the help system can search all of the files
for a certain method, function, or sub. So you can't just take one and
extract it to
Hi Hayden,
Sure. You need to download and install the Microsoft Help SDK from the
MSDN website. I believe the latest version is 1.4. Basically, what you
do is you write your help documentation in html according to the
instructions in the SDK documentation, and then compile it into a chm
file with
Hi Thomas,
Thanks for that.
Best Regards,
Hayden
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2011 9:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
Hi Hayden
Hi,
Glad I could help. By the way in case most of you don't know when we
talk about Windows help we need to make a technical destinction
between Microsoft Windows Help 4.0 and earlier and Microsoft HTML Help
1.0 and later. As they are two completely different help systems used
by different
Hi Tom.
this actually explains quite nicely something which has always puzled me,
the fact that modern games seem to use html pages as help.
I assumed these were standard html pages, and the older help system seen in
some other applications, - the one that needs the F6 key, was the
, but not his spirit...'
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 12:21 AM
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i'm a litle surprised that it's not mentioned in the applications notes for
the chm help
Hi Dark,
Well, Maybe. I know that in Jaws if you press insert+h for help while
in the Microsoft help viewer it tells you to select a topic and press
f6 to read the text. It appears that Window-Eyes 7.5 now has a similar
feature where you can press+shift+control+question and get some really
useful
key for Hal, though i suspect I've stil got a spare one.
Beware the Grue!
Dark.
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Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2011 2:22 PM
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Hi Dark
list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
Hi Dark,
Well, Maybe. I know that in Jaws if you press insert+h for help while
in the Microsoft help viewer it tells you to select a topic and press
f6 to read the text. It appears that Window-Eyes 7.5 now has a similar
feature where you can press
Hi Thomas,
Thank You! the f6 key thing sure makes a world of difference with the chm
files. I don't know why it never dawned on me to do that. I mean I have used
the f6 key in the VB6 help system, but never thought to do it in other windows
helps.
Thanks!
TGIF and BFN
Jim
Computer
: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
Hi Thomas,
Thank You! the f6 key thing sure makes a world of difference with the chm
files. I don't know why it never dawned on me to do that. I mean I have
used the f6 key in the VB6 help system, but never thought to do it in other
windows helps.
Thanks!
TGIF and BFN
Hi Hayden,
I don't know if you have ever programmed in VB6, but it does not look at all
the same to me as other chm files. In the VB6 IDE you just put your PC cursor
on the command word that you wish help for, press the f1 key and then the f6
key. It is all integrated into the IDE.
TGIF
Hi Jason,
Really I would not know where to easily find the rosters for all the major
league baseball teams. I took a quick look at mlb.com and did not find them
there. And then there would be the thing of needing to up date the files all
the time. Sorry, I'm just not really into doing all
Hi Jim,
Glad I could helpyou out with that. I really wasn’t aware that so many
people didn’t know about the f6 command. The f6 keyboard command seams
to be a fairly common Windows hot key for switching frames and window
pains in a number of Windows applications. I know in Firefox, for
example, f6
: Friday, March 18, 2011 9:16 AM
To: Hayden Presley
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
Hi Hayden,
I don't know if you have ever programmed in VB6, but it does not look at all
the same to me as other chm files. In the VB6 IDE you just put your PC
cursor on the command word that you wish
: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
Hi Jim,
Glad I could helpyou out with that. I really wasn’t aware that so many
people didn’t know about the f6 command. The f6 keyboard command seams
to be a fairly common Windows hot key for switching frames and window
pains in a number of Windows applications. I
Hi Rich,
Thank you very much for the file link. Don't know why, but I have never been
able to work with chm files.
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Hi,
Just found this in an old top tech tidbits newsletter. Checked the link and it
still works. I don't know what version though you are
Hi Jim,
Using chm help files really aren't that hard once you figure out how
to use them. Basically, you have a tree view on the left side with the
topics and subtopics in the document, and then there is a large edit
box on the right where the text is. You Switch between the tree view
and edit
Hi Dark,
very true. Unfortunately, having someone read an audio manual can get
quite expensive if using professional voice talent though. I've
thought about it, but figured it isn't worth the expense in the long
run. I just dropped another $30 into Mysteries of the Ancients this
week, and I'm
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2011 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
Hi Jim,
Using chm help files really aren't that hard once you figure out how
to use them. Basically, you have a tree view on the left side with the
topics and subtopics in the document
Hi Dark,
Well, that might be a big part of the problem. The Microsoft help
viewer uses f6 to toggle between left and right pain not control+tab.
Not only that but the edit pain is a MSAA control so any screen reader
that hass MSAA support, which I think all of them do, should be able
to read it
Well that's true tom.
Even my reader/research assistant costs me roughly 11 usd per hour for
reading, and she is not reading professionally, though she does do a good
job of things and is qualified.
I think it's one of those things that would be nice to have, but only if it
could be done
Hi Tom.
I just pulled up a program with a help file and tried f6 out and it worked
fine, I could use all of Hal's usual nav keys in the eddit pane just as if
it were a webpage or text document, including reading right to the bottom.
So, thanks for letting me know that, that's going to make
Hello Jim since I know you can edit your text files in your baseball for
the home and visitors teams for batters and pitchers could you possibly
get the team rosters for all the players and zip them up and then we
can download them from your site? The reason I am asking this because
when we
I must admit I like these to html books and manuals are good with the
headings etc.
As long as you don't make those that flashy.
At 11:41 p.m. 16/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Shaun,
Well, as for myself I prefer html manuals for the simple fact they are
cross-platform and can be read by any html web
Hi,
I definitely agree. Just look at the BGT manual. Besides the audio
version being huge it is pretty much impossible to find anything you
want in a hurry. However, using a standard chm file, html format, or
one written in XML docbook it would be extremely easy to find what you
are looking for
Hi.
Just as someone who reads significantly both for pleasure and for my phd
research I do see your point regarding indexing.
However, while it is perfectly easy to search an html resource for a string
of text or a given section, which makes it great for instances where you
have large
Hi Shaun,
Well, as for myself I prefer html manuals for the simple fact they are
cross-platform and can be read by any html web browser. That's why the
manual for Mysteries of the Ancients is written in html. That said, my
favorit for mat is xml docbook simply because xml was designed from
the
Hi Dark,
I see your point, but the problem is that most audio manuals/audio
books aren't split up into chapters and sections where you can jump to
a section as needed. Some of the better audio books like those from
RFBD have beeps in them to help you find the start of a chapter while
fast
Hi tom.
This is true,I've noticed it in dazy books from the rnib as well, which is
insane being as dazy already has markers for chapter, section, part etc
built into the format precisely for that purpose.
I think though if we are talking about future manuals from audiogame devs or
for
well its more of a prefference really.
I don't use chms that much or rather havn't needed to.
its mostly manuals in html etc.
Though my favourite are audio manuals if I can get them.
At 07:07 p.m. 14/03/2011, you wrote:
Hi Haden,
I have to agree with you. I'm not quite sure why Shaun hates chm
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 4:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Compiling Help Files
well its more of a prefference really.
I don't use chms that much or rather
Hi,
Just found this in an old top tech tidbits newsletter. Checked the link and it
still works. I don't know what version though you are downloading because this
was posted 2 years ago.
Jamal Mazrui has updated his chm2txt package, which takes Windows compressed
help files and turns them into
Hi Haden,
I have to agree with you. I'm not quite sure why Shaun hates chm help
files so much. They are standard Microsoft help files, and are quite
accessible. For large manuals etc they are great. I don't exactly get
why anyone would have a problem with them.
As far as extracting them I think
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Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:51 PM
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hmmm.
why would you want to write stupid chm files.
YOu can't extract them unless you buy a piece
hmmm.
why would you want to write stupid chm files.
YOu can't extract them unless you buy a piece of software.
THere are a few compilers and such.
There is supposed to be something called microsoft help workshop that
does this, you write in word then save it as a chm but I havn't
really
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