[Audyssey] jim's monopoly

2014-05-30 Thread Nicol
Hi
I am having a very exciting game of monopoly.
I play with the macdonald land board. 
Something exciting happened which I never expected will happen.
I was in a bad fix.
I owned 2 of the red properties and the computer oponent  1 red property.
I owned 1 purple property and the computer oponent 1 purple property.
The computer oponent owned all the yellow properties and all the gold
properties.
So the computer oponent  quickly placed restaurants on his properties.
So I used the  buy, sell or trade menu  option.
I gave the computer oponent the one purple property that I owned.
And I took the red property from the computer oponent.
So I traded the purple property for the red property.
Now I have both red properties so now I easily placed restaurants on the red
properties.
Now the computer oponent is in a bad fix.
Had the computer oponent said no thank you on the deal I wouldn't have been
able to buy restaurants. 
So the computer oponent agreed on the deal without noticing that I will be
able to buy restaurants.
So now the  computer oponent already had to pay me a lot of rent as the
computer oponent landed on my restaurants on the red properties  quite a lot
of times.
This is exciting, because if the oponent was a human, the opponent wouldn't
have agreed to the trade deal.
A human oponent would have realized that I want to trade properties in order
to place restaurants on properties'; in order to get out of a bad fix
This is the first time in a game of monopoly that I am able to trade
properties' with a computer oponent and then get out of this bad  fix by
putting  restaurants on properties.
I use the mary and mike voices with jim's games.
2 small weird things I have picked up while playing monopoly:
When I  get a chance card and it's a free  out of jale card.
 Then mary says:
This card may be kept until needed o r sold.
So mary doesn't say or but o r.
This is not at all  a problem for me, its just a small weird thing I have
picked up. Maybe it's the way how mary read text.
And its nice to get the time while playing  monopoly.
Something weird that I pick up if I press f4 to get the time mary says
island, not is.
For example lets say the time is 11:00 I press f4,  mary will say
The  time island 11:00.
Instead of the time is 11:00.
Maybe that's just how mary read text.



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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-18 Thread Muhammed Deniz

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- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Kitchen" 

To: "Hayden Presley" 
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game



Hi Hayden,

Hmmm, there must not have been a monopoly involved or allot of money or 
something.  Did it end up making a difference in the outcome of the game?


- Original Message -
Hi Jim,
Oh...I don't know. I've traded a property for money. It fell forit hook,
line, and sinker.

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Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:08 AM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA

Jim

MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-17 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
Actually, I don't remember.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi,
I definitely find that surprising myself. Most of the time the
computer refuses to sell unless it is up to its eyeballs in debt, or
you offer it a deal it can't refuse.  For example, I remember one time
I was trying to trade for one of the last green properties. Just for
the heck of it i gave it a set of light blue properties complete with
houses and hotels. It took that in exchange for the final green
property, but there wasn't anything else i could have given the
computer to trade for the property it would accept. It definitely got
the better deal out of the bargon and I felt it was a little too
stingy with the green property. Either that or just a extremely shrude
wheeler and dealer. Lol!

On 9/14/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Hayden,
>
> Hmmm, there must not have been a monopoly involved or allot of money or
> something.  Did it end up making a difference in the outcome of the game?
>

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-14 Thread Dark Lord
Yup, the name of mine has change...

The name for that sighted game is what I typed.
My wife bought it a few years back   and I just copy this name from the
readme.

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Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2010 6:45 AM
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Hi Dark II,
Infocom and monopoly? You mean those words go together?

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Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Just give him the price double or more the computer paid for. 
Like example, $100 for this blue property, you will need to give him $200
for him to even consider a deal.
For exchange of property, if you got one full monopoly  of red or yellow,
you will need to exchange another colour monopoly, a higher value for him to
even consider.
I play one of the sighted folks version call Infogrames Interactive Monopoly
which the computer will counter trade or ask you for something which you
might not give.
It's a pitty you cant just play it on your own with your screen reader or
just tabbing just your keyboard since some of the function need to access by
a mouse.
I quite love the audio of it. As it will have the demolishing sound of
buildings if you sell it or building construction when you buy it.
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From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 5:08 PM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

 Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-14 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
I definitely find that surprising myself. Most of the time the
computer refuses to sell unless it is up to its eyeballs in debt, or
you offer it a deal it can't refuse.  For example, I remember one time
I was trying to trade for one of the last green properties. Just for
the heck of it i gave it a set of light blue properties complete with
houses and hotels. It took that in exchange for the final green
property, but there wasn't anything else i could have given the
computer to trade for the property it would accept. It definitely got
the better deal out of the bargon and I felt it was a little too
stingy with the green property. Either that or just a extremely shrude
wheeler and dealer. Lol!

On 9/14/10, Jim Kitchen  wrote:
> Hi Hayden,
>
> Hmmm, there must not have been a monopoly involved or allot of money or
> something.  Did it end up making a difference in the outcome of the game?
>

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-14 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Hayden,

Hmmm, there must not have been a monopoly involved or allot of money or 
something.  Did it end up making a difference in the outcome of the game?

- Original Message -
Hi Jim,
Oh...I don't know. I've traded a property for money. It fell forit hook,
line, and sinker.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:08 AM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA

Jim

MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Jim,
Oh...I don't know. I've traded a property for money. It fell forit hook,
line, and sinker.

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Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 4:08 AM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

 Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark II,
Infocom and monopoly? You mean those words go together?

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Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Just give him the price double or more the computer paid for. 
Like example, $100 for this blue property, you will need to give him $200
for him to even consider a deal.
For exchange of property, if you got one full monopoly  of red or yellow,
you will need to exchange another colour monopoly, a higher value for him to
even consider.
I play one of the sighted folks version call Infogrames Interactive Monopoly
which the computer will counter trade or ask you for something which you
might not give.
It's a pitty you cant just play it on your own with your screen reader or
just tabbing just your keyboard since some of the function need to access by
a mouse.
I quite love the audio of it. As it will have the demolishing sound of
buildings if you sell it or building construction when you buy it.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 5:08 PM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

 Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-13 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Dark II,
Infocom and monopoly? You mean those words go together?

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Behalf Of Dark
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 8:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Just give him the price double or more the computer paid for. 
Like example, $100 for this blue property, you will need to give him $200
for him to even consider a deal.
For exchange of property, if you got one full monopoly  of red or yellow,
you will need to exchange another colour monopoly, a higher value for him to
even consider.
I play one of the sighted folks version call Infogrames Interactive Monopoly
which the computer will counter trade or ask you for something which you
might not give.
It's a pitty you cant just play it on your own with your screen reader or
just tabbing just your keyboard since some of the function need to access by
a mouse.
I quite love the audio of it. As it will have the demolishing sound of
buildings if you sell it or building construction when you buy it.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 5:08 PM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

 Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-13 Thread Dark
Just give him the price double or more the computer paid for. 
Like example, $100 for this blue property, you will need to give him $200
for him to even consider a deal.
For exchange of property, if you got one full monopoly  of red or yellow,
you will need to exchange another colour monopoly, a higher value for him to
even consider.
I play one of the sighted folks version call Infogrames Interactive Monopoly
which the computer will counter trade or ask you for something which you
might not give.
It's a pitty you cant just play it on your own with your screen reader or
just tabbing just your keyboard since some of the function need to access by
a mouse.
I quite love the audio of it. As it will have the demolishing sound of
buildings if you sell it or building construction when you buy it.
-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Jim Kitchen
Sent: Monday, 13 September 2010 5:08 PM
To: Nicol
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty
stingy though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you
have to offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

BFN

 Jim

Money can't buy everything... but then again neither can no money.

j...@kitchensinc.net
http://www.kitchensinc.net
(440) 286-6920
Chardon Ohio USA
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-13 Thread Muhammed Deniz

Actually, its really good. Build hotels if you can.
My audio games for the blind group.
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Hi Nicol,
I can answer that. Although you can initate and make trades with the
computer (sometimes he even accepts) the computer player will never offer
you a trade.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Subject: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Jim and all
There is something that I have been wondering about your monopoly game, 
jim.
While playing against the computer or against one or more players, there 
is

a menu  option to buy, sell or trade.
My question is,  if I play a game against the computer, the way you
programmed the game, is there  a chance  that the computer player might 
want

to sell, buy or trade with  me?




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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-13 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Nicol,

Yes you can buy, sell or trade with the computer player.  It is pretty stingy 
though.  That is it does not want to be taken advantage of.  So you have to 
offer it a pretty good deal.

HTH

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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-12 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Nicol,
Well, it is pretty simple. If the computer has a property you would
like to buy, sell, or trade for you can try and initiate a transaction
using that option. Unfortunately, the A.I. isn't smart enough to try
and buy, sell, or trade itself, but you can certainly use that option
to try and make a deal with the computer player. I say try as the A.I.
isn't good at buying, selling, or trading properties.

Smile.


On 9/12/10, Nicol  wrote:
> Hi Jim and all
> There is something that I have been wondering about your monopoly game, jim.
> While playing against the computer or against one or more players, there is
> a menu  option to buy, sell or trade.
> My question is,  if I play a game against the computer, the way you
> programmed the game, is there  a chance  that the computer player might want
> to sell, buy or trade with  me?
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-12 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Nicol,
I can answer that. Although you can initate and make trades with the
computer (sometimes he even accepts) the computer player will never offer
you a trade.

Best Regards,
Hayden


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Subject: [Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

Hi Jim and all
There is something that I have been wondering about your monopoly game, jim.
While playing against the computer or against one or more players, there is
a menu  option to buy, sell or trade.
My question is,  if I play a game against the computer, the way you
programmed the game, is there  a chance  that the computer player might want
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[Audyssey] jim's monopoly game

2010-09-12 Thread Nicol
Hi Jim and all
There is something that I have been wondering about your monopoly game, jim.
While playing against the computer or against one or more players, there is
a menu  option to buy, sell or trade.
My question is,  if I play a game against the computer, the way you
programmed the game, is there  a chance  that the computer player might want
to sell, buy or trade with  me?




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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's monopoly

2009-07-31 Thread Allan Thompson

Hi Jim,
The reason I asked was because after saving a game of monopoly and then 
going back to it later didn't load my saved game, but acted as if I didn't 
save at all. What I did was reinstal the monopoly version 9 and everything 
seems to be fine now. It was weird though, and thanks to you and Tom for the 
help.


al
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's monopoly



Hi Allan,

If there is a saved game, it will automatically start.

HTH

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's monopoly

2009-07-31 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Allan,

If there is a saved game, it will automatically start.

HTH

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's monopoly

2009-07-30 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi Allan,
As soon as you start the Monopoly program it will see you have a saved 
game and ask if you wan to play your saved game.


Allan Thompson wrote:

Hi,
I was hoping someone could remind me how to load a saved game in Jim Kitchen's Monopoly game. 


Thanks for any help,
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[Audyssey] Jim's monopoly

2009-07-30 Thread Allan Thompson
Hi,
I was hoping someone could remind me how to load a saved game in Jim Kitchen's 
Monopoly game. 

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-19 Thread jicjaws12
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die.  and so does the computer version keep you up real real  late.  i didn't 
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-17 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Bryan,

Yeah, one can run my games without the game menu program, but as you said the 
game menu system sure makes it easier.  Plus now with Vista not having the VB6 
library files it is even more important to install the winkit file.

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-17 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

Yeah, you just can not force people to read the instructions or follow them.   
I have kept several of my answers and just use them over and over.  It is pretty much like 
a faq which you can't get people to read either. 

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-17 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Bryan,

Yeah, one can run my games without the game menu program, but as you said the 
game menu system sure makes it easier.  Plus now with Vista not having the VB6 
library files it is even more important to install the winkit file.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-17 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

Yeah, you just can not force people to read the instructions or follow them.   
I have kept several of my answers and just use them over and over.  It is pretty much like 
a faq which you can't get people to read either. 

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-16 Thread Bryan Peterson
You can actually run the games without installing the Winkit file. I used to 
do that all the time before I realized that the Winkit file actually 
organizes the games into a workable order. Before that I was always having 
to go to the c:\program files\kitchensinc\game name folder (I usually 
created that last manually), in order to play the game. As I'm sure you can 
imagine that got annoying real fast.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question


Okay Jim, fair enough,  it's your game afterall, it was just a 
thought.


as to the winkit file, one reason i wanted to update the entry pages for 
all of your games was precisely to stop people from making that mistake. 
As I said, all of them now contain information on the Winkit file, so 
theoretically people shouldn't make that mistake as often, - of course 
that also depends upon said people actually bothering to read the game 
page,  which is probably just about as likely as people reading the 
pages of your site, lol!


At least though i can relax in the thought that audiogames.net isn't 
contributing to the situation.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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To: "dark" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question



Hi Dark,

I am sorry, but I will not be putting in the option to say what the dice 
roll will be in my monopoly game.  I am sorry if the dice roll thing 
makes it so that you can not use the game to play via mail or forum.  As 
I said, it would or could be a total cheat.  I just will not put a cheat 
like that in the game.


And as I said you can review the board with the tour board option and the 
check asset option.



You would not believe how many times I have had to write to people 
telling them that they must run the setup.exe file in the winkit.zip 
file.  I have no idea if that is because of direct links to my game files 
or just because people do not read or listen to where it says
Please install the winkit.zip file before installing any of the below 
games.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-16 Thread dark

Okay Jim, fair enough,  it's your game afterall, it was just a thought.

as to the winkit file, one reason i wanted to update the entry pages for all 
of your games was precisely to stop people from making that mistake. As I 
said, all of them now contain information on the Winkit file, so 
theoretically people shouldn't make that mistake as often, - of course 
that also depends upon said people actually bothering to read the game 
page,  which is probably just about as likely as people reading the 
pages of your site, lol!


At least though i can relax in the thought that audiogames.net isn't 
contributing to the situation.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.


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From: "Jim Kitchen" 

To: "dark" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question



Hi Dark,

I am sorry, but I will not be putting in the option to say what the dice 
roll will be in my monopoly game.  I am sorry if the dice roll thing makes 
it so that you can not use the game to play via mail or forum.  As I said, 
it would or could be a total cheat.  I just will not put a cheat like that 
in the game.


And as I said you can review the board with the tour board option and the 
check asset option.



You would not believe how many times I have had to write to people telling 
them that they must run the setup.exe file in the winkit.zip file.  I have 
no idea if that is because of direct links to my game files or just 
because people do not read or listen to where it says
Please install the winkit.zip file before installing any of the below 
games.


BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-16 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

I am sorry, but I will not be putting in the option to say what the dice roll 
will be in my monopoly game.  I am sorry if the dice roll thing makes it so 
that you can not use the game to play via mail or forum.  As I said, it would 
or could be a total cheat.  I just will not put a cheat like that in the game.

And as I said you can review the board with the tour board option and the check 
asset option.


You would not believe how many times I have had to write to people telling them 
that they must run the setup.exe file in the winkit.zip file.  I have no idea 
if that is because of direct links to my game files or just because people do 
not read or listen to where it says
Please install the winkit.zip file before installing any of the below games.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-16 Thread dark

Hi Jim.

It's just a personal thing probably, but I do like reviewing boards etc, and 
I wasn't thinking in terms of real time play over Skype or chatrooms,  but 
play by mail, forum etc.


As to the links on audiogames.net, each entry does have a link directly to 
your homepage, I've also included text about and a link to download the 
winkit file on all the game pages, so hopefully people shouldn't get too 
confused.


The other nice point, is that with the new favourites system, people can add 
your games, - or anyone elses to their favourites list, and the list of 
who favourited what appears at the bottom of each page as a sort of 
popularity wrating system.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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From: "Jim Kitchen" 

To: "dark" 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question



Hi dark,

I doubt that when people are playing monopoly in chat rooms, Skype 
conferences etc that the game master or mistress is relating what happens 
on each turn.  Pretty sure that actually all people involved hear the play 
from the gm computer.  So a player just needs to ask the gm to use the 
tour board or check asset option.


Oh wow, look if I roll a 5 I will land on free parking and collect 1,957 
dollars.  I probably should not do that even though I have the option to 
do so.


Oh wow, if player number 2 rolls a 3 they will land on my boardwalk with a 
hotel.  I probably should not do that even though I have the option to do 
so.


That is cool that you are working so hard to get all of the links on the 
audiogames site up to date.  However personally I do not think that direct 
links to my games is a good thing.  I mean that then skips people going to 
my front page and even worse they may miss reading


winkit.zip 2.4m bytes May 2003
contains a game menu system and the board game of life
Please install the winkit.zip file before installing any of the below 
games.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-16 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi dark,

I doubt that when people are playing monopoly in chat rooms, Skype conferences 
etc that the game master or mistress is relating what happens on each turn.  
Pretty sure that actually all people involved hear the play from the gm 
computer.  So a player just needs to ask the gm to use the tour board or check 
asset option.

Oh wow, look if I roll a 5 I will land on free parking and collect 1,957 
dollars.  I probably should not do that even though I have the option to do so.

Oh wow, if player number 2 rolls a 3 they will land on my boardwalk with a 
hotel.  I probably should not do that even though I have the option to do so.

That is cool that you are working so hard to get all of the links on the 
audiogames site up to date.  However personally I do not think that direct 
links to my games is a good thing.  I mean that then skips people going to my 
front page and even worse they may miss reading

winkit.zip 2.4m bytes May 2003
contains a game menu system and the board game of life
Please install the winkit.zip file before installing any of the below games.

BFN

Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-15 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi,
Na, Software Man has a secret closet in his office where he changes into 
Software Man. He also keeps a cell phone handy to stay in touch with the 
Justice League. Grin.


Charles Rivard wrote:
Does he change in a pay phone booth?  I hope not, because more and 
more people are now using cell phones!


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-15 Thread dark

Hi Jim.

Yes, both the quick tour and check assets options are really handy, but once 
again they'd only be useable by the person actually running the program. All 
the other players on E-mail or wherever couldn't have access to those 
options.


As for setting piece movement being a cheat, yes it could be used as such 
(though imho would be slightly pointless as the random aspects of monopoly 
are the things which make it fun), but would also let play by E-mail or 
forum games with people running the same board setup possible, which imho 
would make the program a lot! more fun,  sinse games with multiple 
opponents are great, and the ability to have more of them in a 
correspondance fashion would be cool.


Btw, you'll be pleased to know that all the kitchinsinc entries on 
audiogames.net are now up to date completely, with links to all accompanying 
files, game explanations and the correct genres.


I'm slightly sorry if the nfl description is just a litle thin, as I've said 
before, I'm not great on sports knolidge generally, - particularly of 
American sports.


Stil, I hope this will let more people easily find your games.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: "dark" 
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question



Hi Dark,

My Monopoly game does have a tour board feature.  Actually two versions, 
one regular and one quick tour.  Just arrow down twice from the roll dice 
option.  There is also a check assets option.  Just arrow down once from 
the roll dice option.


Having a what the dice roll option would or could be a total cheat.  I'm 
afraid that it would be way too tempting to use.  Don't you think?


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-15 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

My Monopoly game does have a tour board feature.  Actually two versions, one 
regular and one quick tour.  Just arrow down twice from the roll dice option.  
There is also a check assets option.  Just arrow down once from the roll dice 
option.

Having a what the dice roll option would or could be a total cheat.  I'm afraid 
that it would be way too tempting to use.  Don't you think?

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-14 Thread Charles Rivard
Does he change in a pay phone booth?  I hope not, because more and more 
people are now using cell phones!


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Hi,
This sounds like a job for Software Man! Programs faster than a speeding 
bullet. Writes code like a steaming locomotive. Able to write AI in a 
single thought. Its a bird, its a plane, no its Software Man!
A human being from a far away galaxy with powers unlike mear mortals. He 
uses his powers to write software for truth, justice, and the American 
way.



Jim Kitchen wrote:

Hi Dark,

Allot of people do now play my monopoly game in chat rooms, skype calls, 
party phone chat lines etc.  I do not see the need to be able to enter 
the number of the dice roll.  You just have one person as the game master 
running the game and doing as the player wants on their turn.


Now as I said to Ari about the multiple computer players in the game.
The thing is, the artificial intelligence for multiple computer players 
is beyond my artificial intelligence programming ability.  Truthfully it 
was a real strain on my brain just to have one computer player.  Now to 
have more than one and have them do things like initiate and make trades, 
I just don't want to put my brain over the edge and it still not work 
out.  I mean it took several versions just to get one computer player to 
play and not have lots and lots of complaints about it's abilities.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-14 Thread Claudio
Hi thomas!
Im trying to send an e-mail to you, but I get the following Mail back:
This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
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As I can see it here in the list, your e-mail is working good.
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-14 Thread Thomas Ward

Hi,
This sounds like a job for Software Man! Programs faster than a speeding 
bullet. Writes code like a steaming locomotive. Able to write AI in a 
single thought. Its a bird, its a plane, no its Software Man!
A human being from a far away galaxy with powers unlike mear mortals. He 
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Jim Kitchen wrote:

Hi Dark,

Allot of people do now play my monopoly game in chat rooms, skype 
calls, party phone chat lines etc.  I do not see the need to be able 
to enter the number of the dice roll.  You just have one person as the 
game master running the game and doing as the player wants on their turn.


Now as I said to Ari about the multiple computer players in the game.
The thing is, the artificial intelligence for multiple computer 
players is beyond my artificial intelligence programming ability.  
Truthfully it was a real strain on my brain just to have one computer 
player.  Now to have more than one and have them do things like 
initiate and make trades, I just don't want to put my brain over the 
edge and it still not work out.  I mean it took several versions just 
to get one computer player to play and not have lots and lots of 
complaints about it's abilities.


BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-14 Thread dark

Hmmm Jim.

the Ai programming does make sense, though I do admit I would sometimes like 
multiple monopoly opponents to play against.


The master option didn't actually occur to me, though certainly on the 
occasions i've played winlife or monopoly myself with friends we've only had 
the one person typing, and I can see that method working in live chat or 
skype calls.


On the other hand though, it might be a personal thing, but I do like to 
physically look around the board and see what is or is not free, check how 
much catch I've got as opposed to my opponent etc. Pluss, for play by E-mail 
or forum mail monopoly, i couldn't really imagine using a master and several 
others.


I ttherefore put the dice rolling thing to you as a suggestion,  perhaps 
combined with the ability to have a text file of the board setup either 
saved or spoken, which players could pass around if necessary.


If this would be a pest to do or nobody thinks it's a good idea,  fair 
enough.




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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Dark,

Allot of people do now play my monopoly game in chat rooms, skype calls, party 
phone chat lines etc.  I do not see the need to be able to enter the number of 
the dice roll.  You just have one person as the game master running the game 
and doing as the player wants on their turn.

Now as I said to Ari about the multiple computer players in the game.
The thing is, the artificial intelligence for multiple computer players is 
beyond my artificial intelligence programming ability.  Truthfully it was a 
real strain on my brain just to have one computer player.  Now to have more 
than one and have them do things like initiate and make trades, I just don't 
want to put my brain over the edge and it still not work out.  I mean it took 
several versions just to get one computer player to play and not have lots and 
lots of complaints about it's abilities.

BFN

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-14 Thread Jim Kitchen

Hi Ari,

The thing is, the artificial intelligence for multiple computer players is 
beyond my artificial intelligence programming ability.  Truthfully it was a 
real strain on my brain just to have one computer player.  Now to have more 
than one and have them do things like initiate and make trades, I just don't 
want to put my brain over the edge and it still not work out.  I mean it took 
several versions just to get one computer player to play and not have lots and 
lots of complaints about it's abilities.

I am very sorry that your friend finds it boring to play by herself with only 
one computer player.

BFN

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[Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly question

2008-12-13 Thread ari

Hi
I know this has probably been asked before, but I don't know in what post. 
My question is, why can't monopoly be made so that you can have a computer 
player even if you don't choose a one-player game, or even, why can't you 
choose for the fun to have multiple computer oponents, example, a 
four-player game made up of you and a pal, plus two computers? I'm asking 
because I've installed monopoly for a friend, and, because she often plays 
by herself, she finds it boring to always just play against one computer.
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-22 Thread Maria visiting her folks
Yes I have noticed this as well.

Poor old puter player.

Maria

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> Hi all,
> I guess this question would probably be better for Jim, but has anyone
> else noticed that the computer player makes huge purchasing mistakes and
> doesn't know how to play Monopoly properly?
> For example the computer player will land on an expensive green property
> but have $11 in cash. It will decide to purchase the property anyway and
> morgadge everything to get it. Yeah, that is legal for the game, but is
> usually a risky move that will end the player in losing the game soon. I
> suppose it would be ok for the computer to try it for absolutely
> necessary properties, but I notice it does it over and over again until
> it runs out of money and commits financial suicide.
> Another mistake I saw was when the computer player decided to unmorgadge
> something it started automaticly with the most expensive properties.
> Duh, if you are trying to get some houses up unmorgadge the less
> expensive properties, and get some houses on them, and once they bring
> in some cash then unmorgadge the moreexpensive properties and build on
> them.
> In short I hate to be critical, but the computer player for Monopoly 6
> doesn't have a head for business at all. I can see several moves ahead
> and see when the computer player is making massive blunders and this or
> that is going to end up in the computer losing.
> When the computer player makes such blunders I am master enough of
> computer and board based monopoly to capatilise on the computer's
> blunders and make huge proffets etc usually killing the computer even
> faster yet.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-22 Thread Gary Whittington
Hi

Well since there is no real online software Monopoly game that can be played 
head to head over the net, the best thing is to have it on a voice chat room 
setting.  That way others can hear what is happening and can talk during 
game play.

Have a nice day.

Gary.
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> Hi Gary.
>
> Personally I think the tournament should be for anyone, not restricted to
> members of FTP.  I haven't got any reason to sign up for it simply because
> I don't have a microphone and don't have the money for one right now.  I
> don't have the time for voice chatting with school starting again next 
> week
> and all the e-mail lists I'm on, but a tournament sounds like it would be
> interesting.  But my vote is to have an open tournament.
>
> MissWings
>
>
> At 11:42 AM 8/22/2006, Gary Whittington wrote:
>
>>Free games ain't going to have computer being smart as Oppenheimer.
>>
>>Now, I again, will throw down the Gonelet and to find out how many want to
>>put their purple money where there mouth is.
>>
>>I would be happy to help start a Monopoly Tournament for the blind.  As 
>>many
>>know that I run many pools and so I do have the software toput up a web 
>>page
>>showing either brackets or most likey a standings format will be used.
>>
>>How long the tournament would last would depend on the number of members 
>>in
>>the tournament.
>>
>>Like they do on For-the-Pople.com have Golf tourneys on a regular bases 
>>with
>>Jim's game why not Monopoly.
>>
>>The last time I had offer this idea, was a system where there would been a
>>small Fee to play in the tournament of five bucks that way the winner of 
>>the
>>tournament could be awarded something afterward.  Since the tournament 
>>could
>>been as long as the football season, I thought it would only been right.
>>Now taking the bull by the horn again, since now there has been talk about
>>how good one is beating up a simple bot in a game, lets get down to
>>business..
>>
>>For those who wants braging rights.  Where is what I will do.
>>Instead of having an open tournament that could last for months, but a 
>>close
>>tournament.  Members will have to belong to FTP and only four players may 
>>be
>>pick from this list.  I will then will may it know to the Talk list on the
>>FTP email group where aother four players will be choosen by me.
>>
>>The 8 members and myself will have a meeting on FTP to hammer out detail 
>>on
>>the rules.  During this metting those who wish to join the tournament will
>>be able to sign up.
>>With nobodie needing to pay any sort of fee to play, but a reasonable 
>>number
>>of players
>>
>>But first is first, and I need feedback on having a tournament.  And Again 
>>I
>>will start with this email list to test the waters.  If I get a good 
>>enough
>>response on who would want to participate then I will move to the next 
>>steps
>>in the process in forming a league of members.
>>
>>Lets create a new thread and have it called:
>>"Lets do it"
>>In the thread just put in the phrase
>>"Consider me as a member"
>>
>>If the thread starts I  would like to see it go for a week.  I then will 
>>ask
>>it to be closed out after that amount of time.  Then I will let the list
>>know of my decision if there is enough interest where I would consider
>>giving up some of my time and resources to produce a MOnopoly tournamet
>>
>>Gary aka Crash
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "Jim Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Thomas Ward" 
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:17 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.
>>
>>
>> > Hi Thomas,
>> >
>> > Thank you for your suggestions, but as I said and you suggested, I 
>> > think
>> > that you would be better off writing your own Monopoly game since you 
>> > have
>> > a better head for business and writing artificial intelligence.
>> >
>> > BFN
>> >
>> > - Original Message -
>> > Hi Jim,
>> > Your Monopoly game has promise, but I think a few small corrections in
>> > the way the computer does business would go a long way to improving the
>> > game play.
>> > For example, when

Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-22 Thread MissWings
Hi Gary.

Personally I think the tournament should be for anyone, not restricted to 
members of FTP.  I haven't got any reason to sign up for it simply because 
I don't have a microphone and don't have the money for one right now.  I 
don't have the time for voice chatting with school starting again next week 
and all the e-mail lists I'm on, but a tournament sounds like it would be 
interesting.  But my vote is to have an open tournament.

MissWings


At 11:42 AM 8/22/2006, Gary Whittington wrote:

>Free games ain't going to have computer being smart as Oppenheimer.
>
>Now, I again, will throw down the Gonelet and to find out how many want to
>put their purple money where there mouth is.
>
>I would be happy to help start a Monopoly Tournament for the blind.  As many
>know that I run many pools and so I do have the software toput up a web page
>showing either brackets or most likey a standings format will be used.
>
>How long the tournament would last would depend on the number of members in
>the tournament.
>
>Like they do on For-the-Pople.com have Golf tourneys on a regular bases with
>Jim's game why not Monopoly.
>
>The last time I had offer this idea, was a system where there would been a
>small Fee to play in the tournament of five bucks that way the winner of the
>tournament could be awarded something afterward.  Since the tournament could
>been as long as the football season, I thought it would only been right.
>Now taking the bull by the horn again, since now there has been talk about
>how good one is beating up a simple bot in a game, lets get down to
>business..
>
>For those who wants braging rights.  Where is what I will do.
>Instead of having an open tournament that could last for months, but a close
>tournament.  Members will have to belong to FTP and only four players may be
>pick from this list.  I will then will may it know to the Talk list on the
>FTP email group where aother four players will be choosen by me.
>
>The 8 members and myself will have a meeting on FTP to hammer out detail on
>the rules.  During this metting those who wish to join the tournament will
>be able to sign up.
>With nobodie needing to pay any sort of fee to play, but a reasonable number
>of players
>
>But first is first, and I need feedback on having a tournament.  And Again I
>will start with this email list to test the waters.  If I get a good enough
>response on who would want to participate then I will move to the next steps
>in the process in forming a league of members.
>
>Lets create a new thread and have it called:
>"Lets do it"
>In the thread just put in the phrase
>"Consider me as a member"
>
>If the thread starts I  would like to see it go for a week.  I then will ask
>it to be closed out after that amount of time.  Then I will let the list
>know of my decision if there is enough interest where I would consider
>giving up some of my time and resources to produce a MOnopoly tournamet
>
>Gary aka Crash
>- Original Message -
>From: "Jim Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Thomas Ward" 
>Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:17 AM
>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.
>
>
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > Thank you for your suggestions, but as I said and you suggested, I think
> > that you would be better off writing your own Monopoly game since you have
> > a better head for business and writing artificial intelligence.
> >
> > BFN
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > Hi Jim,
> > Your Monopoly game has promise, but I think a few small corrections in
> > the way the computer does business would go a long way to improving the
> > game play.
> > For example, when I play and I start getting low on cash I stop buying
> > property and houses until I build up a bit of a reserve. That way I
> > don't go to much in to debt by morgadging all my properties.
> > However, the computer AI player will land on an expensive property, have
> > limitted funds, and instead of trying to buy it later buys right then,
> > and morgadges several properties to obtain the property. That is a very
> > risky move, and can be a suicidal act in the end if the computer player
> > doesn't know how to recover from that kind of move properly. Which it
> > usually doesn't, and continues to lose money rather than continue
> > picking up income.
> > Here is a clear example of a mistake the computer player makes. It
> > usually tries to unmorgadge the most expensive properties, and start
> > building there first. Good if you have the funds to do it, but bad if
> > you have limited funds.
> > Well, in my last g

Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-22 Thread Gary Whittington
Free games ain't going to have computer being smart as Oppenheimer.

Now, I again, will throw down the Gonelet and to find out how many want to 
put their purple money where there mouth is.

I would be happy to help start a Monopoly Tournament for the blind.  As many 
know that I run many pools and so I do have the software toput up a web page 
showing either brackets or most likey a standings format will be used.

How long the tournament would last would depend on the number of members in 
the tournament.

Like they do on For-the-Pople.com have Golf tourneys on a regular bases with 
Jim's game why not Monopoly.

The last time I had offer this idea, was a system where there would been a 
small Fee to play in the tournament of five bucks that way the winner of the 
tournament could be awarded something afterward.  Since the tournament could 
been as long as the football season, I thought it would only been right.
Now taking the bull by the horn again, since now there has been talk about 
how good one is beating up a simple bot in a game, lets get down to 
business..

For those who wants braging rights.  Where is what I will do.
Instead of having an open tournament that could last for months, but a close 
tournament.  Members will have to belong to FTP and only four players may be 
pick from this list.  I will then will may it know to the Talk list on the 
FTP email group where aother four players will be choosen by me.

The 8 members and myself will have a meeting on FTP to hammer out detail on 
the rules.  During this metting those who wish to join the tournament will 
be able to sign up.
With nobodie needing to pay any sort of fee to play, but a reasonable number 
of players

But first is first, and I need feedback on having a tournament.  And Again I 
will start with this email list to test the waters.  If I get a good enough 
response on who would want to participate then I will move to the next steps 
in the process in forming a league of members.

Lets create a new thread and have it called:
"Lets do it"
In the thread just put in the phrase
"Consider me as a member"

If the thread starts I  would like to see it go for a week.  I then will ask 
it to be closed out after that amount of time.  Then I will let the list 
know of my decision if there is enough interest where I would consider 
giving up some of my time and resources to produce a MOnopoly tournamet

Gary aka Crash
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Thomas Ward" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi Thomas,
>
> Thank you for your suggestions, but as I said and you suggested, I think 
> that you would be better off writing your own Monopoly game since you have 
> a better head for business and writing artificial intelligence.
>
> BFN
>
> - Original Message -
> Hi Jim,
> Your Monopoly game has promise, but I think a few small corrections in
> the way the computer does business would go a long way to improving the
> game play.
> For example, when I play and I start getting low on cash I stop buying
> property and houses until I build up a bit of a reserve. That way I
> don't go to much in to debt by morgadging all my properties.
> However, the computer AI player will land on an expensive property, have
> limitted funds, and instead of trying to buy it later buys right then,
> and morgadges several properties to obtain the property. That is a very
> risky move, and can be a suicidal act in the end if the computer player
> doesn't know how to recover from that kind of move properly. Which it
> usually doesn't, and continues to lose money rather than continue
> picking up income.
> Here is a clear example of a mistake the computer player makes. It
> usually tries to unmorgadge the most expensive properties, and start
> building there first. Good if you have the funds to do it, but bad if
> you have limited funds.
> Well, in my last game the computer player had all the green properties,
> red, and light blue. All of them were morgadged and the computer just
> went around go. It unmorgadged a green property. However, a more
> financially sound investment might have been to unmorgadge the light
> blue, and then build a few houses on it in time so that there would be
> some income coming in besides the $14, and so on from the empty 
> properties.
> The income from the light blue properties could have been used to pull
> say the red out of debt, and once started building on that the player
> could have started in too the green.
> What I am saying in monopoly as in real life building a monopoly takes
> starting from the least expensive investments and as you increase
> investments, build upwards until u reach the final goal.
>
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>

Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-22 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas,

Thank you for your suggestions, but as I said and you suggested, I think that 
you would be better off writing your own Monopoly game since you have a better 
head for business and writing artificial intelligence.

BFN

- Original Message -
Hi Jim,
Your Monopoly game has promise, but I think a few small corrections in 
the way the computer does business would go a long way to improving the 
game play.
For example, when I play and I start getting low on cash I stop buying 
property and houses until I build up a bit of a reserve. That way I 
don't go to much in to debt by morgadging all my properties.
However, the computer AI player will land on an expensive property, have 
limitted funds, and instead of trying to buy it later buys right then, 
and morgadges several properties to obtain the property. That is a very 
risky move, and can be a suicidal act in the end if the computer player 
doesn't know how to recover from that kind of move properly. Which it 
usually doesn't, and continues to lose money rather than continue 
picking up income.
Here is a clear example of a mistake the computer player makes. It 
usually tries to unmorgadge the most expensive properties, and start 
building there first. Good if you have the funds to do it, but bad if 
you have limited funds.
Well, in my last game the computer player had all the green properties, 
red, and light blue. All of them were morgadged and the computer just 
went around go. It unmorgadged a green property. However, a more 
financially sound investment might have been to unmorgadge the light 
blue, and then build a few houses on it in time so that there would be 
some income coming in besides the $14, and so on from the empty properties.
The income from the light blue properties could have been used to pull 
say the red out of debt, and once started building on that the player 
could have started in too the green.
What I am saying in monopoly as in real life building a monopoly takes 
starting from the least expensive investments and as you increase 
investments, build upwards until u reach the final goal.




 Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread Charles Rivard
Another example of good strategy:  When my Mom was a kid, there used to be a 
hamburger joint that sold a quarter-pound burger for a nickel.  One of the 
major burger chains moved in right across the street from the family-run 
restaurant.  They would put signs up to send messages to one another.  The 
chain restaurant boasted about the number of burgers they sold elsewhere. 
However, they weren't doing much business here.  They sold their burger for 
a dime.  The final sign that the family-run place put up made a very good 
point that businesses, and players of Monopoly should follow:  "A fast 
nickel beats a slow dime any day".  By the way, the chain restaurant moved 
elsewhere due to a lack of business.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 4:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi Jim,
> Your Monopoly game has promise, but I think a few small corrections in
> the way the computer does business would go a long way to improving the
> game play.
> For example, when I play and I start getting low on cash I stop buying
> property and houses until I build up a bit of a reserve. That way I
> don't go to much in to debt by morgadging all my properties.
> However, the computer AI player will land on an expensive property, have
> limitted funds, and instead of trying to buy it later buys right then,
> and morgadges several properties to obtain the property. That is a very
> risky move, and can be a suicidal act in the end if the computer player
> doesn't know how to recover from that kind of move properly. Which it
> usually doesn't, and continues to lose money rather than continue
> picking up income.
> Here is a clear example of a mistake the computer player makes. It
> usually tries to unmorgadge the most expensive properties, and start
> building there first. Good if you have the funds to do it, but bad if
> you have limited funds.
> Well, in my last game the computer player had all the green properties,
> red, and light blue. All of them were morgadged and the computer just
> went around go. It unmorgadged a green property. However, a more
> financially sound investment might have been to unmorgadge the light
> blue, and then build a few houses on it in time so that there would be
> some income coming in besides the $14, and so on from the empty 
> properties.
> The income from the light blue properties could have been used to pull
> say the red out of debt, and once started building on that the player
> could have started in too the green.
> What I am saying in monopoly as in real life building a monopoly takes
> starting from the least expensive investments and as you increase
> investments, build upwards until u reach the final goal.
>
>
>
>
> Jim Kitchen wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> I only win about half of the time against the Monopoly computer player. 
>> I guess that I just ain't so good at playing Monopoly or writing the 
>> artificial intelligence for it.  So I reckon that you will have to do as 
>> you said and crank out a Monopoly game in between one of your finished 
>> projects.
>>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread mark bishop
Hi Jim
Sorry this is not about monopoly.  I had a problem with life 2 the other day 
and you advised deleting certain files.  I did this and downloaded it again 
and I still have the same problem.  i didn't have any problem with the first 
version.  Any help will be welcome.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Kitchen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Fun Times" 
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi Brian,
>
> You are very welcome.  Glad to hear that you are enjoying the game. 
> Thanks for saying so.
>
> BFN
>
> - Original Message -
> Tom,
>  Sure the computer makes mistakes, but knowing this it must really hurt
> when the computer wins! HaHa! Remember you can play the Monopoly game
> against up to five other real live people, thus avoiding playing against 
> the
> computer. Jim, if you're reading this, thanks a million for the Monopoly
> game.
>  Brian
>
> Jim
>
> Another fine product of a dysfunctional family.
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Jim,
Your Monopoly game has promise, but I think a few small corrections in 
the way the computer does business would go a long way to improving the 
game play.
For example, when I play and I start getting low on cash I stop buying 
property and houses until I build up a bit of a reserve. That way I 
don't go to much in to debt by morgadging all my properties.
However, the computer AI player will land on an expensive property, have 
limitted funds, and instead of trying to buy it later buys right then, 
and morgadges several properties to obtain the property. That is a very 
risky move, and can be a suicidal act in the end if the computer player 
doesn't know how to recover from that kind of move properly. Which it 
usually doesn't, and continues to lose money rather than continue 
picking up income.
Here is a clear example of a mistake the computer player makes. It 
usually tries to unmorgadge the most expensive properties, and start 
building there first. Good if you have the funds to do it, but bad if 
you have limited funds.
Well, in my last game the computer player had all the green properties, 
red, and light blue. All of them were morgadged and the computer just 
went around go. It unmorgadged a green property. However, a more 
financially sound investment might have been to unmorgadge the light 
blue, and then build a few houses on it in time so that there would be 
some income coming in besides the $14, and so on from the empty properties.
The income from the light blue properties could have been used to pull 
say the red out of debt, and once started building on that the player 
could have started in too the green.
What I am saying in monopoly as in real life building a monopoly takes 
starting from the least expensive investments and as you increase 
investments, build upwards until u reach the final goal.




Jim Kitchen wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> I only win about half of the time against the Monopoly computer player.  I 
> guess that I just ain't so good at playing Monopoly or writing the artificial 
> intelligence for it.  So I reckon that you will have to do as you said and 
> crank out a Monopoly game in between one of your finished projects.
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Brian,

You are very welcome.  Glad to hear that you are enjoying the game.  Thanks for 
saying so.

BFN

- Original Message -
Tom,
  Sure the computer makes mistakes, but knowing this it must really hurt 
when the computer wins! HaHa! Remember you can play the Monopoly game 
against up to five other real live people, thus avoiding playing against the 
computer. Jim, if you're reading this, thanks a million for the Monopoly 
game.
  Brian

 Jim

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Yeah, you can say that again. If I wanted to cheat the computer I could 
make it's life to miserable.
I remember playing Monopoly 4 and one time I traded it some really 
crappy properties for the two dark blue properties and it did it. I 
couldn't believe how easy it was to do that. A human wouldn't have ever 
done a deal like that. Laugh.

Eugene Baroni wrote:
> Cheating the computer is like taking candy from a baby. It's too easy.
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
I'll keep that in mind. I usually buy and exchange properties with the 
computer so that probably gives me the high success rate of wins. the AI 
isn't inteligent enough to see the doom coming by selling this or that 
property.
However, when it is ahead and doing well it doesn't have the ogressive 
tactics to get a monopoly going. I seen times where it had three 
properties ready to build and suddenly it goes in debt to buy a property 
that it didn't really need.

Don Voyles wrote:
> Hi Tom!
>
> For a while I was playing monopoly every night  for about an hour.  I
> would usually have it beat in an hour.  I have probably played it 75 to 100
> times.  It has beat me maybe 3 or 4 times. A couple times it was a draw
> because we each had one of each properties.  I don't try to buy from the
> computer any more because it is to easy to beat the computer that way. If, I
> can't get a monopoly on a property and there is no way to do so without
> buying from the computer I just call it a draw.  The game takes hours to win
> by draining him of his funds that way.
> But, I do enjoy plaing monopoly and I only have the computer to play
> with. My friends don't like monopoly much. Actually, I do have one friend
> that likes monopoly but I only see him about every six months.
>
> Later!
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-21 Thread Jim Kitchen
Hi Thomas,

I only win about half of the time against the Monopoly computer player.  I 
guess that I just ain't so good at playing Monopoly or writing the artificial 
intelligence for it.  So I reckon that you will have to do as you said and 
crank out a Monopoly game in between one of your finished projects.

- Original Message -
Well, my problem is I have to try to lose to lose Monopoly. That is what 
has me bothered. When I play against the computer I would like to really 
face my skills with a more skilled aponent.
Ah well, if I ever get the time between games maybe I will crank out my 
own monopoly with a more challenging foe.

 Jim

Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never cease  to be 
amused.

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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Charles Rivard
Well, there's a possible answer to a question I just posted.  Thanks, Phil.


- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Vlasak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi Tom,
> Playing Jim's monopoly in an on-line chat room where one person broadcasts
> the games moves to the other human players would make the game more
> challenging.
> I think For the People could do this.
> Phil
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.
>
>
>> Hi Bryan,
>> The only problem is I never lose against the computer, and there is not
>> usually anyone to play against, and even if there are they aren't much
>> more challenging.
>> I guess what is different about me as a kid I played allot of board
>> games, and I am strong at strategy games, and Monopoly is still sort of
>> a strategy game. Play your moves right and you can really chew up an
>> aponent.
>>
>> Fun Times wrote:
>>> Tom,
>>>   Sure the computer makes mistakes, but knowing this it must really hurt
>>> when the computer wins! HaHa! Remember you can play the Monopoly game
>>> against up to five other real live people, thus avoiding playing against
>>> the
>>> computer. Jim, if you're reading this, thanks a million for the Monopoly
>>> game.
>>>   Brian
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Eugene Baroni
Cheating the computer is like taking candy from a baby. It's too easy.
- Original Message - 
From: "Don Voyles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


Hi Tom!

For a while I was playing monopoly every night  for about an hour.  I
would usually have it beat in an hour.  I have probably played it 75 to 100
times.  It has beat me maybe 3 or 4 times. A couple times it was a draw
because we each had one of each properties.  I don't try to buy from the
computer any more because it is to easy to beat the computer that way. If, I
can't get a monopoly on a property and there is no way to do so without
buying from the computer I just call it a draw.  The game takes hours to win
by draining him of his funds that way.
But, I do enjoy plaing monopoly and I only have the computer to play
with. My friends don't like monopoly much. Actually, I do have one friend
that likes monopoly but I only see him about every six months.

Later!







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> Well, my problem is I have to try to lose to lose Monopoly. That is what
> has me bothered. When I play against the computer I would like to really
> face my skills with a more skilled aponent.
> Ah well, if I ever get the time between games maybe I will crank out my
> own monopoly with a more challenging foe.
>
>
> Don Voyles wrote:
> > Hi Tom!
> >
> > Yes, I definitely noticed that.  I use that and other ideas to beat
the
> > computer. I beat the computer almost every time. Jim, has corrected 2 or
3
> > errors already, I think if I remember  right.
> >
> > Regards!
> >
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Don Voyles
Hi Tom!

For a while I was playing monopoly every night  for about an hour.  I
would usually have it beat in an hour.  I have probably played it 75 to 100
times.  It has beat me maybe 3 or 4 times. A couple times it was a draw
because we each had one of each properties.  I don't try to buy from the
computer any more because it is to easy to beat the computer that way. If, I
can't get a monopoly on a property and there is no way to do so without
buying from the computer I just call it a draw.  The game takes hours to win
by draining him of his funds that way.
But, I do enjoy plaing monopoly and I only have the computer to play
with. My friends don't like monopoly much. Actually, I do have one friend
that likes monopoly but I only see him about every six months.

Later!







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From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Well, my problem is I have to try to lose to lose Monopoly. That is what
> has me bothered. When I play against the computer I would like to really
> face my skills with a more skilled aponent.
> Ah well, if I ever get the time between games maybe I will crank out my
> own monopoly with a more challenging foe.
>
>
> Don Voyles wrote:
> > Hi Tom!
> >
> > Yes, I definitely noticed that.  I use that and other ideas to beat
the
> > computer. I beat the computer almost every time. Jim, has corrected 2 or
3
> > errors already, I think if I remember  right.
> >
> > Regards!
> >
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread mark bishop
I have just lost for the first time.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Well, my problem is I have to try to lose to lose Monopoly. That is what
> has me bothered. When I play against the computer I would like to really
> face my skills with a more skilled aponent.
> Ah well, if I ever get the time between games maybe I will crank out my
> own monopoly with a more challenging foe.
>
>
> Don Voyles wrote:
>> Hi Tom!
>>
>> Yes, I definitely noticed that.  I use that and other ideas to beat 
>> the
>> computer. I beat the computer almost every time. Jim, has corrected 2 or 
>> 3
>> errors already, I think if I remember  right.
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Phil Vlasak
Hi Tom,
Playing Jim's monopoly in an on-line chat room where one person broadcasts 
the games moves to the other human players would make the game more 
challenging.
I think For the People could do this.
Phil

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> Hi Bryan,
> The only problem is I never lose against the computer, and there is not
> usually anyone to play against, and even if there are they aren't much
> more challenging.
> I guess what is different about me as a kid I played allot of board
> games, and I am strong at strategy games, and Monopoly is still sort of
> a strategy game. Play your moves right and you can really chew up an
> aponent.
>
> Fun Times wrote:
>> Tom,
>>   Sure the computer makes mistakes, but knowing this it must really hurt
>> when the computer wins! HaHa! Remember you can play the Monopoly game
>> against up to five other real live people, thus avoiding playing against 
>> the
>> computer. Jim, if you're reading this, thanks a million for the Monopoly
>> game.
>>   Brian
>>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Neither have I, and it is getting frustrating. I am waiting the day the 
game actually beats me.


mark bishop wrote:
> I have noticed this as well.  I have played several games against the 
> computer and have never lost yet mainly because of this situation.
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
The only problem is I never lose against the computer, and there is not 
usually anyone to play against, and even if there are they aren't much 
more challenging.
I guess what is different about me as a kid I played allot of board 
games, and I am strong at strategy games, and Monopoly is still sort of 
a strategy game. Play your moves right and you can really chew up an 
aponent.

Fun Times wrote:
> Tom,
>   Sure the computer makes mistakes, but knowing this it must really hurt 
> when the computer wins! HaHa! Remember you can play the Monopoly game 
> against up to five other real live people, thus avoiding playing against the 
> computer. Jim, if you're reading this, thanks a million for the Monopoly 
> game.
>   Brian
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Well, my problem is I have to try to lose to lose Monopoly. That is what 
has me bothered. When I play against the computer I would like to really 
face my skills with a more skilled aponent.
Ah well, if I ever get the time between games maybe I will crank out my 
own monopoly with a more challenging foe.


Don Voyles wrote:
> Hi Tom!
>
> Yes, I definitely noticed that.  I use that and other ideas to beat the
> computer. I beat the computer almost every time. Jim, has corrected 2 or 3
> errors already, I think if I remember  right.
>
> Regards!
>   


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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread mark bishop
I have noticed this as well.  I have played several games against the 
computer and have never lost yet mainly because of this situation.
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From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 2:39 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi all,
> I guess this question would probably be better for Jim, but has anyone
> else noticed that the computer player makes huge purchasing mistakes and
> doesn't know how to play Monopoly properly?
> For example the computer player will land on an expensive green property
> but have $11 in cash. It will decide to purchase the property anyway and
> morgadge everything to get it. Yeah, that is legal for the game, but is
> usually a risky move that will end the player in losing the game soon. I
> suppose it would be ok for the computer to try it for absolutely
> necessary properties, but I notice it does it over and over again until
> it runs out of money and commits financial suicide.
> Another mistake I saw was when the computer player decided to unmorgadge
> something it started automaticly with the most expensive properties.
> Duh, if you are trying to get some houses up unmorgadge the less
> expensive properties, and get some houses on them, and once they bring
> in some cash then unmorgadge the moreexpensive properties and build on
> them.
> In short I hate to be critical, but the computer player for Monopoly 6
> doesn't have a head for business at all. I can see several moves ahead
> and see when the computer player is making massive blunders and this or
> that is going to end up in the computer losing.
> When the computer player makes such blunders I am master enough of
> computer and board based monopoly to capatilise on the computer's
> blunders and make huge proffets etc usually killing the computer even
> faster yet.
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Fun Times
Tom,
  Sure the computer makes mistakes, but knowing this it must really hurt 
when the computer wins! HaHa! Remember you can play the Monopoly game 
against up to five other real live people, thus avoiding playing against the 
computer. Jim, if you're reading this, thanks a million for the Monopoly 
game.
  Brian
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From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 4:39 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi all,
> I guess this question would probably be better for Jim, but has anyone
> else noticed that the computer player makes huge purchasing mistakes and
> doesn't know how to play Monopoly properly?
> For example the computer player will land on an expensive green property
> but have $11 in cash. It will decide to purchase the property anyway and
> morgadge everything to get it. Yeah, that is legal for the game, but is
> usually a risky move that will end the player in losing the game soon. I
> suppose it would be ok for the computer to try it for absolutely
> necessary properties, but I notice it does it over and over again until
> it runs out of money and commits financial suicide.
> Another mistake I saw was when the computer player decided to unmorgadge
> something it started automaticly with the most expensive properties.
> Duh, if you are trying to get some houses up unmorgadge the less
> expensive properties, and get some houses on them, and once they bring
> in some cash then unmorgadge the moreexpensive properties and build on
> them.
> In short I hate to be critical, but the computer player for Monopoly 6
> doesn't have a head for business at all. I can see several moves ahead
> and see when the computer player is making massive blunders and this or
> that is going to end up in the computer losing.
> When the computer player makes such blunders I am master enough of
> computer and board based monopoly to capatilise on the computer's
> blunders and make huge proffets etc usually killing the computer even
> faster yet.
>
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Don Voyles
Hi Tom!

Yes, I definitely noticed that.  I use that and other ideas to beat the
computer. I beat the computer almost every time. Jim, has corrected 2 or 3
errors already, I think if I remember  right.

Regards!







- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 2:39 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.


> Hi all,
> I guess this question would probably be better for Jim, but has anyone
> else noticed that the computer player makes huge purchasing mistakes and
> doesn't know how to play Monopoly properly?
> For example the computer player will land on an expensive green property
> but have $11 in cash. It will decide to purchase the property anyway and
> morgadge everything to get it. Yeah, that is legal for the game, but is
> usually a risky move that will end the player in losing the game soon. I
> suppose it would be ok for the computer to try it for absolutely
> necessary properties, but I notice it does it over and over again until
> it runs out of money and commits financial suicide.
> Another mistake I saw was when the computer player decided to unmorgadge
> something it started automaticly with the most expensive properties.
> Duh, if you are trying to get some houses up unmorgadge the less
> expensive properties, and get some houses on them, and once they bring
> in some cash then unmorgadge the moreexpensive properties and build on
> them.
> In short I hate to be critical, but the computer player for Monopoly 6
> doesn't have a head for business at all. I can see several moves ahead
> and see when the computer player is making massive blunders and this or
> that is going to end up in the computer losing.
> When the computer player makes such blunders I am master enough of
> computer and board based monopoly to capatilise on the computer's
> blunders and make huge proffets etc usually killing the computer even
> faster yet.
>
>
>
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[Audyssey] Jim's Monopoly.

2006-08-20 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi all,
I guess this question would probably be better for Jim, but has anyone 
else noticed that the computer player makes huge purchasing mistakes and 
doesn't know how to play Monopoly properly?
For example the computer player will land on an expensive green property 
but have $11 in cash. It will decide to purchase the property anyway and 
morgadge everything to get it. Yeah, that is legal for the game, but is 
usually a risky move that will end the player in losing the game soon. I 
suppose it would be ok for the computer to try it for absolutely 
necessary properties, but I notice it does it over and over again until 
it runs out of money and commits financial suicide.
Another mistake I saw was when the computer player decided to unmorgadge 
something it started automaticly with the most expensive properties. 
Duh, if you are trying to get some houses up unmorgadge the less 
expensive properties, and get some houses on them, and once they bring 
in some cash then unmorgadge the moreexpensive properties and build on 
them.
In short I hate to be critical, but the computer player for Monopoly 6 
doesn't have a head for business at all. I can see several moves ahead 
and see when the computer player is making massive blunders and this or 
that is going to end up in the computer losing.
When the computer player makes such blunders I am master enough of 
computer and board based monopoly to capatilise on the computer's 
blunders and make huge proffets etc usually killing the computer even 
faster yet.

 

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