edaaan, ...! Salam,ChanCT From:
b...@yahoo.com [GELORA45] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:35 AMTo:
GELORA45@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to
Become an Innovation-Driven Economy
Kutipan:
...satu contoh lagi bagaimana seorang ahli yang tidak bisa dipos
asil melihat KESALAHAN2 dan TETAP saja
> membela RBKP merupakan revolusi proletar yang benar dab harus ditempuh! Apa
> enggak edaaan, ...!
>
> Salam,
> ChanCT
>
>
>
> *From:* b...@yahoo.com [GELORA45]
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 25, 2017 2:35 AM
> *To:* GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
&g
roups.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:35 PM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
OPT itu utk international student yg mau minta, pada dasarnya ya ijin kerja
(working permit), mereka yg permintaan OP
!
Nesare
From: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 9:35 PM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
OPT itu utk international student yg mau minta, pada
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
oh ya, pekerjaan saya tidak terkait visa. lebih terkait pd taxation dgn
credential dari federal.
---In GELORA45@yahoogroups.com <mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com> , <bhjo@...
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@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups. com mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:38 AM
To: Gelora45 <GELORA45@yahoogroups.com mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com>;
Beng-Hoey Jo <bhjo@... mailto:bhjo@...>
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Diffi
akat, ...
>
> Salam,
> ChanCT
>
>
> *From:* kh djie
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:54 PM
> *To:* Gelora45 ; Chan CT
> *Subject:* Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
> Innovation-Driven Economy
>
> Bung Chan,
> Tante saya sekolah di Bela
memang mau bantu dan memang baek orangnya.
Nesare
From: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 3:48 AM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Kutipan:
...satu contoh lagi bagaimana seorang ahli yang tidak bisa diposisikan
dengan benar,.hanya karena perbedaan Ras atau Agama?
juga harus pandai-pandai menempatkan seseorang/Ahli didtempat
saja atau hebat2in
agamanya sendiri!
Nesare
From: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 1:33 AM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy [1 Attachment
gikutin setelah merkel
menang.
Nesare
From: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com <mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:15 PM
To: Yahoogroups <gelora45@yahoogroups.com <mailto:gelora45@yahoogroups.com> >
Subject:
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Gelora45 ; Chan CT
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Bung Chan,
Tante saya sekolah di Belanda, kemudian di Inggris, dan sekolah jadi
penterjemah di Jenewa.
Menikah dengan orang kedua dar
! Jangan sia-siakan mereka dan merugikan
pembangunan masyarakat, ...
Salam,
ChanCT
From: kh djie
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 2:54 PM
To: Gelora45 ; Chan CT
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Bung Chan,
Tante saya sekolah di Belanda
m merkel menang. Saya kurang ngikutin setelah merkel
menang.
Nesare
From: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 6:15 PM
To: Yahoogroups <gelora45@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innova
pi sangat kreatif, giat dan teliti dalam kerja.
>
> Salam-ngobrol,
> ChanCT
>
>
> *From:* jonathango...@yahoo.com [GELORA45]
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:35 AM
> *To:* GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
: jonathango...@yahoo.com [GELORA45]
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:35 AM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
OPT itu utk international student yg mau minta, pada dasarnya ya ijin kerja
(working permit), mereka
3:38 AM
To: Gelora45 <GELORA45@yahoogroups.com <mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com> >;
Beng-Hoey Jo <bhjo@... <mailto:bhjo@...> >
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Kalau di Belanda, dulu masuk banyak dokter gig
@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 8:24 PM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Quote:
Harus dilihat secara proportionally.
Jangan krn pengalaman bung yg hebat dapat visa ke USA dalam bbrp hari
bung Karno, ...
Salam,
ChanCT
From: b...@yahoo.com [GELORA45]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 8:24 AM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Quote:
Harus dilihat secara proportionally.
Jangan krn pengalaman bung
teraan
masyarakat, ...
Salam-ngobrol,
ChanCT
From: nesare1@... [GELORA45]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:31 PM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Bener itu yg terjadi brain drain dari jer
@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Bener itu yg terjadi brain drain dari jerman ke USA dan kanada ditahun 70/80 an.
Sekarang mah beda. Masuk USA susahnya minta ampun. Visa tidak cukup. Walaupun
permohonannya sudah
m:
GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups. com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:38 AM
To: Gelora45 <GELORA45@yahoogroups.com>; Beng-Hoey Jo <bhjo@...>
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy Kalau di Belanda, dulu masuk
da diskriminasi dalam pelaksanaannya, itu level aplikasinya tetapi
> kriteria yg telah ada dan disyaratkan itu tetap harus ada.
>
>
>
> Nesare
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 21, 2017 3:38 AM
> *
Subject: Re: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an
Innovation-Driven Economy
Kalau di Belanda, dulu masuk banyak dokter gigi dari Indonesia.
Mereka tidak boleh jadi dokter gigi, kecuali kalau ikut kuliah dan lulus ujian
di Belanda.
Setelah bertahun-tahun jadi schooltandarts (
Kalau di Belanda, dulu masuk banyak dokter gigi dari Indonesia.
Mereka tidak boleh jadi dokter gigi, kecuali kalau ikut kuliah dan lulus
ujian di Belanda.
Setelah bertahun-tahun jadi schooltandarts ( dokter gigi untuk periksa gigi
anak2 sekolah),
terjadi perubahan peraturan yang tidak pakai
Yg. saya ceritakan adalah situasi di Indonesia tahun 1970-1980-han. Maka dari
itu majoritas dari mahasiswa2 di Jerman kebanyakan pindah ke AS, Kanada
sebagian ke Belanda dan Australia. Untuk pulang ke Indonesia pada waktu itu,
mereka merasa akan dipersulit kalau dibanding ke negara2 Barat lain,
dan
birokrasinya tidak terlalu banyak.
Nesare
From: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com [mailto:GELORA45@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2017 5:36 AM
To: GELORA45@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [GELORA45] Re: Difficult for Indonesia to Become an Innovation-Driven
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