Re: Announcements without Release Notes

2009-01-11 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 12:51 -0800, Otis Gospodnetic wrote: Hello, General announcement question I have. I like getting announcem...@jakarta emails, as it allows me to passively keep abreast of new releases. What I like even more is when announcements have a link to release notes of

RE: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Mon, 2007-05-07 at 15:36 -0500, Laubach, Shawn Contr 555 ACSS/GFLA1 wrote: So I can vote for this but then I'm not a committer anymore? Just curious. anyone can vote (and please feel free to do so). however only some votes are binding upon apache. in this case, it's Jakarta PMC votes. if POI

Re: [VOTE] Move POI to TLP

2007-05-07 Thread Robert Burrell Donkin
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 10:17 +0100, Nick Burch wrote: snip So, now is the time to vote on the proposal: [X] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... - robert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: My svn account

2007-01-15 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 16:44 -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: IIRC, this is my 4th attempt to resolve this (I try like every 3-4 months). I would like to commit something. My SVN account is not working. per the instructions off the SVN page I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got no response.

[ANN] Apache Jakarta Commons Betwixt 0.8 Released

2006-12-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Jakarta Commons community is pleased to announce that Apache Jakarta Commons Betwixt 0.8 is now available for download from http://jakarta.apache.org/site/downloads/downloads_commons-betwixt.cgi. Please remember to verify the release when

[NOTICE] New OpenPGP Subkey For Email

2006-06-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
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Re: testing.apache.org

2006-06-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-06-12 at 14:24 -0400, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On 6/11/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 22:50 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Rahul Akolkar wrote: snip/ Per the umbrella concern, the question then becomes what -- if any

RE: Commons-modeler release request

2006-05-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-05-24 at 18:00 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 24 May 2006, Bill Barker wrote: -Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] snip Backwards incompatible shouldn't be a worry (imo), that's what major version numbers are for - but if you mean

Re: commons-fileupload: Streaming mode

2006-05-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-05-23 at 07:24 -0400, Yoav Shapira wrote: Hola, +1 to you getting commons-fileupload karma and doing it yourself ;) +1 i've kicked off the formal vote on commons-dev. - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 22:54 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote: On 4/25/06, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sounds great, Martin. But if i may be forgiven a little semantic nitpicking, my understanding of previous discussions is that JWC would be a grouping rather than a sub-project.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 14:55 -0500, Greg Reddin wrote: Sorry to be a latecomer to this thread. I've had some trouble subscribing for whatever reason. But I just wanted to add that I am working on Standalone Tiles over at the Struts project and am willing to support it if it's moved to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tiles as the seed for Jakarta Web Components

2006-04-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 11:48 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: The Web Components thread is much older than the recent set of threads, it was back in 2005. So I don't think we've heard your reasons against a JWC Sub-Project as opposed to the not-community-of-community threads. i have worries about

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 22:31 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Yes. A lot of things predate the incubator. I'm not opposed to say an HTTPD-sandbox for experimental HTTPD related stuff. I'm not opposed to a POI-sandbox (indeed we have one but call it scratchpad) for POI-related stuff. However

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Sandbox

2006-04-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-04-09 at 10:20 -0400, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: snip Totally NOT how the incubator was described to me. As I understand it if Tomcat (for instance) wants to create a new JSP engine, that's kosher for Tomcat. However if someone in POI wanted to create a new AI engine (having

Re: Encoding and format of RSS.XML

2006-04-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sat, 2006-04-01 at 22:50 +0100, sebb wrote: Should the RSS.XML file use encoding=WINDOWS-1252? Most (all) the other files use encoding=ISO-8859-1. Also, the layout is not all that easy to read - not all that important for end-users, but makes it a bit harder to review changes. Adding

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 02:50 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: [X] +1 [ ] -1 - robert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 20:01 +0100, sebb wrote: On 27/03/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all jakarta-* groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the exception of jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and

Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 12:41 +0100, sebb wrote: Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment. And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of whom aren't interested. Just

Re: adding a link from commons.apache.org to Jakarta Commons?

2006-03-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 22:04 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: Now Martin's answer becomes very apt - something to sell across the ASF and there will be push back. ie) Good luck. However, I think it's not a bad idea. commons.apache.org as a Federation for the various Commons projects around the

Re: Jakarta Sandbox?

2006-03-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 15:51 -0300, Felipe Leme wrote: Hi Rahul (and others), First of all, sorry for the delay (but as they say here Better later than never :-) +1 Still, I think it worths to create a separate sub-project for the Standard Taglibs - even if it's DOA on activity, it's

Re: Invitation

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sat, 2006-03-18 at 23:32 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: I'm assuming at the moment that this is a case of somebody spoofing Karthik's address. I doubt the spam is from Karthik - just something that snuck through the spamassassin and various other email controls and happens to be a

software grants drop location

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
when a software grant is received, it's important that the actual donated code is recorded in the repository: the actual code donated is identified by it's MD5 sum. it seems best to me to adopt a single drop point in jakarta for these grants. i propose

Re: software grants drop location

2006-03-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 12:09 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006, robert burrell donkin wrote: when a software grant is received, it's important that the actual donated code is recorded in the repository: the actual code donated is identified by it's MD5 sum. it seems best

RE: [PROPOSAL] Cleanup pmc members

2006-03-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Fri, 2006-03-17 at 10:48 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Noel J. Bergman wrote: My proposal is that we create a file in SVN in which PMC members can list themselves as being active. After 1 month, failure to appear in that list will result in removal from the PMC.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 19:13 +, Stephen Colebourne wrote: Reposted (edited) from original commons proposal. Currently this proposal has general, though not unanimous, support. A vote thread may follow this thread if the mood remains positive. i'm a little unsure whether this will turn out

Re: Jakarta Web Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 19:49 +0100, Ortwin Glück wrote: Sandy McArthur wrote: As a programmer looking for useful code to help me with uploaded files, I'm going to look in something named Jakarta *Web* Components first. When I see Jakarta HTTP Components I think of interacting with the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta Language Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 15:29 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: Board report done - now I can irritate you all on these threads again :) On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, robert burrell donkin wrote: snip - each component provides an extension to the JavaSE - code judged by would it be out of place

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 16:53 +0100, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Just zap alexandria (we just zapped the mailinglist too). We can look at it as being promoted to TLP anyway (gump). ORO and Regexp ar kind of finished I thought, we should mark it stable or something like that. Don't know

RE: Other Jakarta Components

2006-03-14 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 19:18 -0500, Noel J. Bergman wrote: In terms of finding homes, I wonder if we should have a root directory under which we have inactive codebases. One problem would be that no PMC would be responsible. Or we could create a sort of reverse incubator: a curatorship, where

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of OneCommunityProposals by StephenColebourne

2006-03-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 23:32 +0100, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I'd like to note my opposition. I don't have the same vision as you do and do not wish to be distracted by 100 irrelavant emails a day about Commons ABCD. I'm glad Henri posted that reorganization things were being discussed.

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of OneCommunityProposals by StephenColebourne

2006-03-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 23:48 +0100, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: that'd only leaves POI in jakarta did you have a point there? :-) thanks for highlighting my bad grammar (it's past my bed time) the point was the bit you snipped :) preserving jakarta as a special umbrella for poi seems more than

Re: OT: Gmail Labels enhancement: show recent message count in a label

2006-03-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2006-03-08 at 00:09 -0500, Sandy McArthur wrote: spam I wrote a GreaseMonkey user script to help me manage the mail on the Jakarata mailing lists and thought I'd share because I noticed a good number of people here email from Gmail. If this is completely inappropriate to post here let

Re: Other Jakarta Components

2006-03-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 22:20 +0100, Thomas Dudziak wrote: As a side note, perhaps this is an opportunity to evaluate if there are better homes for some of the components ? E.g. betwixt/digester/jxpath could benefit from going to XML commons, xml tends to be about nuts and bolts. not really

Re: Other Jakarta Components

2006-03-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 23:07 +0100, Thomas Dudziak wrote: On 3/7/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DbUtils and DBCP to db.apache.org sounds like a win to me; DBCP would point back to Jakarta for a dependency on [pool], but that helps to foster intra-project involvement.

Re: Subproject Charters

2006-03-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 17:31 -0500, Henri Yandell wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Martin Cooper wrote: On 3/5/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Say some Prolog constraint framework decided

Re: New Commons SubProject Proposal

2006-02-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Fri, 2006-02-17 at 14:57 +0530, Karthik Kumar wrote: On 2/17/06, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2006-02-15 at 16:52 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: Given its database-centric nature, and the fact that it's a framework, this would appear to be more appropriate

[ANNOUNCEMENT] ApacheCon EU 2006

2006-02-18 Thread robert burrell donkin
The ApacheCon Planners have announced that ApacheCon Europe 2006 will be held in Dublin, Ireland, at the Burlington Hotel (http://www.jurysdoyle.com/ireland/doyle_burlington.htm), June 26-30. Further details to follow as they are available. Robert signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [RESULT] Tapestry TLP

2006-02-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 09:43 -0800, Howard Lewis Ship wrote: Below is the result of the recent Tapestry committers vote to move Tapestry to an Apache top level project. Pending the approval of the Jakarta PMC, we'll be submitting the request to the Apache board. is another VOTE needed for

Re: Users on Tomcat

2006-02-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
for a more quantitative answer, please ask on the tomcat user list. please read http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html. - robert On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 10:56 -0500, Travis Quarterman wrote: Carl, Don't know the exact answer, but Apache is scaled better than Tomcat's Http server. This can be

Re: Jakarta subproject-package system

2006-01-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 09:55 -0100, jan meskens wrote: Hello Henri, I was looking to these page : http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/charter.html Maybe that's the wrong page for these info... . not wrong probably just a little confusing the jakarta commons charter encapsulates the opinions

Re: Notice of intent.... #2

2006-01-10 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 10:20 -0800, Martin Cooper wrote: On 1/10/06, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a second email in the Notice of intent series; here's what I think being a Jakarta component will be like in the future. * Jakarta is a collection of components. Hopefully all

Re: feed parser enclosure support

2005-11-02 Thread robert burrell donkin
this list is for general matters effecting the whole of jakarta. please read http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html and subscribe to either commons-user or commons-dev. please read http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html and remember to add [feedparser] as a prefix to the subject. - robert On

Re: no jsp2 path possible NO SUFFICIENT DOCUMENTING

2005-10-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
the usual comment when this arises is: please post to the correct list (which is tomcat-user please read http://tomcat.apache.org/lists.html). however, i'd would strongly suggest that you research your problem and try to prepare a better question before posting. tomcat is a

Re: Fw: Subscribing a new Project into Jakarta

2005-10-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 14:36 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, my name is João, i'm a Brazillian Java developer. hi João In this email i will describe the general proposal for my project, the JFTP4I (Java FTP for Integration). My intentions are basically to put my project inside the

Re: [Request for Comment] Http Components proposal

2005-09-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2005-09-25 at 12:27 +0200, Oleg Kalnichevski wrote: On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 20:34 -0700, Martin Cooper wrote: On 9/24/05, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... * Jakarta Http Components MUST be content agnostic. The project DOES NOT develop components intended to produce or

Re: GMANE

2005-09-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-09-01 at 15:13 -0400, David Smiley wrote: Hello all. I love using GMANE ( http://www.gmane.org ) to access mailing lists because: 1. one stop mailing-list shopping -- a consistent experience 2. NNTP access 3. easiest path to posting a question to a list that you're not a member

Re: JK Isapi Redirector and IE6 problem

2005-08-30 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi Thomas you'll get a faster and better response if you ask this question on the tomcat user list. please read http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html. - robert On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 07:32 +0100, Kubiak, Thomas wrote: Hello guys. We have the following configuration: Server 1: Tomcat

Re: List moderation

2005-08-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-08-11 at 22:13 +0200, Torsten Curdt wrote: we're moving towards insisting on pgp keys so we could check and moderate through all signed apache.org email without danger. You mean forcing all subscribers to use gpg Although I love the idea of forcing people to sign their

Re: List moderation

2005-08-11 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-08-10 at 17:25 +0200, Santiago Gala wrote: El mié, 10-08-2005 a las 11:27 +0200, Torsten Curdt escribió: Hi, I've been a moderator for the bcel-dev@jakarta.apache.org and bcel-user@jakarta.apache.org for a few months now. In that time there have been 2 valid emails

Re: Web Components/Common project

2005-08-08 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 13:14 -0400, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: On Mon, August 8, 2005 12:42 pm, robert burrell donkin said: On Mon, 2005-08-08 at 01:54 -0300, Felipe Leme wrote: snip Anyway, the Jakarta Taglib Project has voted how it would like to take part on this new project

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Jakarta-Commons Betwixt 0.7 Released

2005-07-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
The Jakarta Commons Team is pleased to announce the latest release of common-betwixt from Apache. Betwixt is a flexible, dynamic, start-from-beans xml-object binder. For more information on Betwixt, please see http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/betwixt/. Betwixt 0.7 is a feature release adding

Re: Copyright line in code submissions

2005-07-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 08:57 +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Robert wrote: i sometimes find it hard to work out where opinion stops and policy begins... Then again... it is surely the PMC's business to know or find out, and enforce? I mean, IANAL but as a manager I would think that if the PMC

Re: svn commit: r225366 - in /jakarta/site: docs/site/downloads/downloads_tomcat-connectors.html xdocs/downloads/downloads.xml

2005-07-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi Jean-Frederic docs/site/downloads/download_tomcat.html is generated and so these changes are in grave danger of being reverted next time someone regenerates the site. - robert On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 18:08 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: jfclere Date: Tue Jul 26 11:08:22 2005 New

Re: svn commit: r225366 - in /jakarta/site: docs/site/downloads/downloads_tomcat-connectors.html xdocs/downloads/downloads.xml

2005-07-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 16:52 -0400, Rahul Akolkar wrote: On 7/26/05, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi Jean-Frederic docs/site/downloads/download_tomcat.html is generated and so these changes are in grave danger of being reverted next time someone regenerates the site

Re: Copyright line in code submissions

2005-07-25 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-07-25 at 17:22 +1200, Simon Kitching wrote: snip Basically, I think it's legal for code submitted to apache to have the copyright of the original author but there are good reasons to avoid this if possible. Certainly the norm for commons projects is to have only one copyright

Re: [RESULT][POLL] drop point 12

2005-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
+1 - robert On Mon, 2005-07-04 at 02:16 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: We should do the same on Commons at some point. Throw out the ones that seem dead. Hen On Sun, 3 Jul 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: i count 4 +1's the consensus seems to be in favour of removal so that's

[RESULT] [POLL] drop 8

2005-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
i count 5 +1's and no objections so i'm going to go ahead and delete it. - robert On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 19:44 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: 8. Packages are encouraged to either use JavaBeans as core objects, a JavaBean-style API, or to provide an optional JavaBean wrapper. doesn't

Re: [site] Added svn resource to library.xml

2005-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
committed. many thanks. - robert On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 20:19 +0200, Fredrik Westermarck wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Is there a BZ or Jira where one can open issues and add patches to the jakarta-site module? Or is all such requests handled on this ml? This mailing list is the best

Re: new components

2005-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
there doesn't see any enthusiasm for those new ideas and no objections to phil's draft. i think we should go ahead and make the changes suggested by phil. - robert On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 22:39 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:13 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here

Re: [POLL] Marking changes

2005-07-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-07-05 at 15:23 -0400, Rahul Akolkar wrote: (Was: Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of DraftCharterForWebComponentCommons by RobertBurrellDonkin) - pasted here since the title was getting too long ;-) Thanks for making the changes Robert! I propose we wrap changes in {{{DELETED}}} and

Re: Dormant guidelines proposal?

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Fri, 2005-07-01 at 01:55 -0500, Curt Arnold wrote: There has been some discussion about modifying the Logging Services project bylaws (http://logging.apache.org/site/bylaws.html) to address some concerns particular to the project. I was researching the Jakarta guidelines and stumbled

[RESULT][POLL] drop point 12

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
i count 4 +1's the consensus seems to be in favour of removal so that's what i'm going to do. i propose to leave retain the number by noting those that have been deleted (rather than removing them). - robert - To

Re: mailing lists for components [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 14:33 -0400, Martin Cooper wrote: On 6/23/05, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: 4.1 in the guidelines repeats the error that I thought was fixed in the j-c guidelines saying that each package has

[POLL] drop 8

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
8. Packages are encouraged to either use JavaBeans as core objects, a JavaBean-style API, or to provide an optional JavaBean wrapper. doesn't seem very relevant. i think that it'd be simpler just to drop it. here's my +1 - robert --8---

Re: new components

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 14:52 -0400, Martin Cooper wrote: On 6/23/05, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip Interpreted literally, 17 goes against standard practice in jakarta (or apache, to my knowledge, other than

Re: new components [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sat, 2005-07-02 at 12:27 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Martin Cooper wrote: On 6/23/05, robert burrell donkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip Interpreted literally, 17 goes against standard practice in jakarta (or apache, to my

Re: new components

2005-07-03 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2005-07-03 at 13:13 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Here is a stab at replacement text for 15, 17 and 18. great :) looks good but threw up some ideas... 15-1 Any member of the community may propose a new package. To be accepted, a package proposal must receive majority approval of the

Re: Name for commons-like area for web

2005-06-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-06-27 at 19:37 +0200, Torsten Curdt wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but if Web were a subproject under Jakarta Commons, could Web itself have subprojects? AFAIK there is no project that has such subproject. ...but that does not mean it's completely impossible. Probably needs to

Re: The content of the folder weapps of tomcat disappeared.

2005-06-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
this sounds to me like a question that would be better directed to the tomcat user list. see http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html. - robert On Fri, 2005-06-24 at 16:05 -0300, Cosmo Luís Arrivabene wrote: The content of the folder weapps of tomcat disappeared. Did not have intervention

new Standard/JSTL subproject? [WAS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of DraftCharterForWebComponentCommons by RobertBurrellDonkin]

2005-06-26 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 20:14 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: On Thu, 23 Jun 2005, robert burrell donkin wrote: On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:49 -0300, Felipe Leme wrote: Apache Wiki wrote: Please do not edit comments into this text: please use the CharterForWebCommonsRequestForComments

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of CreatingCommonsForWebComponents by FelipeLeme

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:38 -0300, Felipe Leme wrote: I also fixed the alphabetic order of the existing proposals (but accidently typed enter before adding that comment). thanks - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

RE: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Proposal For Jakarta Sub Project For WebApplication Components

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 09:45 -0400, Bernard, Shawn wrote: If someone is interested in this project, what should they do? you've already taken the first step: signing up to this list and joining in :) at the moment, this is just a proposal. for this to get any further, there are some tangible

Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip Here are some comments on the draft charter. It is nice to see so much borrowed from the (at least I think) successful j-c model ;-) everything borrowed, in fact. not that it'll stay that way for long... A couple of things

mailing lists for components [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: 4.1 in the guidelines repeats the error that I thought was fixed in the j-c guidelines saying that each package has its own mailing list. If that is intentional, I think that is a *bad* idea, especially to start. it was intentional in

configuration files [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: 9 or somewhere else should speak to J2EE or other external config requirments, which should be fine, even encouraged in some cases is 9 needed? are any configuration guidelines needed? if they are then i agree that they should encourage

[POLL] drop point 12 [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip Don't know what kind of goo 12 would result in or who would use such a thing ;-) this has proved impractical in the jakarta commons. i propose we drop point 12. - robert

new components [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip Interpreted literally, 17 goes against standard practice in jakarta (or apache, to my knowledge, other than in the incubator). I would recommend that new packages require existing committers to support them. I would at least

sandbox [WAS Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications]

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip I guess 18 refers to the sandbox? I do not understand what the intent of this is. is boils down to the question: does this subproject need it's own sandbox or will neophyte components start in the jakarta commons sandbox? - robert

Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: snip One final thing to think about. I know lots of apache people are opposed to umbrella projects for lots of reasons, one of which is the fragmentation and abandonment that can result. We have certainly not been immune to that in

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of DraftCharterForWebComponentCommons by RobertBurrellDonkin

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:49 -0300, Felipe Leme wrote: Apache Wiki wrote: Please do not edit comments into this text: please use the CharterForWebCommonsRequestForComments or post to [http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html General At Jakarta]. OK, here I am posting :-) I'd

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Update of DraftCharterForWebComponentCommons by RobertBurrellDonkin

2005-06-23 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 00:52 -0300, Felipe Leme wrote: Felipe Leme wrote: I'd like to suggest 2 things: ... 3 Damn, beaten by the ENTER key again :-( shades of monty python's flying circus ;) - robert - To

Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications

2005-06-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2005-06-19 at 15:34 -0400, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: web parts is a good name. I thought so... that's why I chose it ;) trademarks are of particular importance for the ASF but it's also important to do the right thing ethically. i wouldn't

Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications

2005-06-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 16:53 -0400, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I'll step back and let you guys get it off the ground then... no one's asking you to step back :) the reason why this discussion was moved to this forum was to encourage people to get involved with the discussion and help to shape the

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Proposal For Jakarta Sub Project For Web Application Components

2005-06-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
i considered posting this to one or more of the announcement lists in an attempt to widen the audience but i didn't feel confident that it would be appropriate or wise. opinions? - robert On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 22:48 +0100, robert burrell donkin wrote: There has been considerable interest over

Re: [PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications

2005-06-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 14:40 -0700, Phil Steitz wrote: Stephen Colebourne wrote: robert burrell donkin wrote: there have been a number of long running threads in the commons discussing the possibility of commons components for use in web applications. the consensus emerged that it would

Re: [patch] site change for Jelly release

2005-06-16 Thread robert burrell donkin
committed. hopefully, someone will sort you out with site karma sometime soon (it's open to all jakarta committers upon request)... - robert On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 02:34 +1000, Brett Porter wrote: As per http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/releases/release.html I am sending this here. I do

[PROPOSAL] subproject that's a home for bricks reusable in java web applications

2005-06-16 Thread robert burrell donkin
there have been a number of long running threads in the commons discussing the possibility of commons components for use in web applications. the consensus emerged that it would be best if a new subproject with a structure similar to the commons was created for components intended for use in web

Re: Need JAR file with...

2005-06-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
jetspeed has graduated to: http://portals.apache.org/ follow the instructions to download the jetspeed jars - robert On Mon, 2005-06-13 at 10:07 -0700, Bosko Popovic wrote: ...org.apache.jetspeed.security.spi.impl.LdapCredentialHandler class as well as all necessary prerequisite classes,

Last Call For ApacheCon Europe 2005 Early Birds

2005-06-13 Thread robert burrell donkin
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Re: Update jakarta site with commons-lang 2.1 release info

2005-06-12 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi steven i don't think that the diff made it. you might need to upload it to people.apache.org or create an issue report alternatively, you could ask for site karma and apply it yourself... - robert On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 14:39 -0400, Steven Caswell wrote: Per the instructions at

Re: Apache cannot connect to Tomcat in httpd.conf

2005-06-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi andreas you'll probably get a faster response if you post this question to the tomcat user list. please read http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html. - robert On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 12:54 +0200, Andreas Bauer wrote: Hello! Can somebody help me, please? My OS is Suse 9.2 pro.

Re: SSH access to jakarta.apache.org

2005-05-05 Thread robert burrell donkin
AIUI the dns names have changed around a bit. jakarta.apache.org is now being served from ajax. you should now access your minotaur as people.apache.org. ajax is mirrored so you'll need to wait for the mirrors to sync before you'll be able to see any changes you make. - robert On Thu,

Re: Verifying Downloads

2005-05-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
sadly, AFAIK this document does not exist as yet. (i have been intending to create one for quite a long time.) please google for the theory behind these technologies but i'll try to give a brief guide. md5 is a checksum. a checksum is a numeric hash of a file. the idea is that two different

Re: Verifying Downloads

2005-05-01 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Sun, 2005-05-01 at 14:59 -0400, Henri Yandell wrote: That would be a good link to have on the download pages wouldn't it :) Googling, I get: http://www.hybridized.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=222 which contains nice links to Windows programs. Verifying MD5 is easy on unix-based

Re: Wiki structure

2005-04-19 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Tue, 2005-04-19 at 15:23 +0100, sebb wrote: On 4/19/05, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And by the way, what is the reason for having all these separate wikis anyway, instead of just one? Dunno. IIRC the pmc had no objections to subprojects creating their own wiki's. the

Re: VOTE: Tomcat - TLP

2005-04-07 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 19:36 -0400, Ian F. Darwin wrote: [X] +1 Vote in support [ ] 0 Abstain [ ] -1 Vote against (Jakarta PMC) - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: help with patch submission for VFS

2005-04-06 Thread robert burrell donkin
you'll find general information on contributing on the website and in particular http://jakarta.apache.org/site/getinvolved.html. there are two ways to submit patches: either through bugzilla (http://issues.apache.org) or by posting an email to the commons-dev list (see

Re: future for maven generated websites?

2005-03-28 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 10:49 +1000, Brett Porter wrote: There are a few alternatives. If webDAV is the answer from infra, then we can definitely get that into the site plugin. It is on the todo list as Tim noted, but the list remains very long at this point :) sounds familiar: so much work, so

future for maven generated websites?

2005-03-27 Thread robert burrell donkin
does anyone have a plan to cope with rebuilding maven based websites when shell access is switched off to the machine serving the website? will we be able to run regular maven site regeneration on a jakarta.apache.org partition? - robert

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 17:20 -0800, Bill Barker wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ? From: Henri Gomez [EMAIL

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