[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Devmanual

2006-05-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Mark Loeser wrote: > At long last the devmanual is official. You can find it at > http://devmanual.gentoo.org. I would like to thank plasmaroo for helping > me with converting it to XML (since he did all of the XSL work to add in > the features we needed to make it easy to write and expand upon).

[gentoo-dev] Re: IP routing on Gentoo

2006-05-27 Thread Ryan Hill
Rumi Szabolcs wrote: > I wanted to set up dynamic routing on a Gentoo box. What I found is that > the netkit-routed from ebuild (w/gcc 3.3.6) is segfaulting and gated is > not in portage at all. Any comments? There's also Networking area on the forums where this question might be better answered.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Addition of a USE_EXPAND-Variable LIRC_DRIVERS and general cleanup of app-misc/lirc

2006-06-03 Thread Ryan Hill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Schwarzott wrote: > The --with-driver part will be moved to LIRC_DRIVERS. The name need not to be > LIRC_DRIVERS, tell me if you have a better name for it (LIRC_RECEIVERS is > another possibility). LIRC_DEVICE? most of the USE_EXPAND stuf

[gentoo-dev] Re: User Relations Co-lead

2006-06-03 Thread Ryan Hill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Christel Dahlskjaer wrote: > It is my pleasure to inform you that after much discussion I can > announce that Joshua Jackson (tsunam) has come onboard to act as my > co-lead in Userrel[1]. Uh-oh. - --de. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

[gentoo-dev] Re: Addition of a USE_EXPAND-Variable LIRC_DRIVERS and general cleanup of app-misc/lirc

2006-06-04 Thread Ryan Hill
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henrik Brix Andersen wrote: > On Sat, Jun 03, 2006 at 09:11:38PM -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: >> LIRC_DEVICE? most of the USE_EXPAND stuff seems to be named for the device >> rather than the driver. eg. ALSA_CARDS, VIDEO_CARDS, INPUT_DE

[gentoo-dev] Re: [ANNOUNCE] Project Sunrise - Gentoo User Overlay

2006-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
Peter wrote: > Chris, I am not familiar enough about gentoo's hierarchy, politics, or > team responsibilities to question your sincerity or authority to say > something like: Sorry, but if it isn't supported, it doesn't belong on > Gentoo infrastructure. Then please trust that these people who ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
Markus Ullmann wrote: > Okay, so after figuring out open problems (thanks to kloeri and various > other people for help here), we now have a resolution that should > satisfy all involved parties here. This should adress dostrow's demands > as well. Nice, I think this is a great improvement. > 2.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Project Sunrise -- Proposal

2006-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
Marius Mauch wrote: > Functional changes, bugfixes, etc. Let people use common sense there. > The intention is simply that people watching the bug don't have to track > the overlay as well to get notifications of important changes (like a > bugfix that prevented them from using the ebuild previous

[gentoo-dev] Re: June Council meeting summary + log

2006-06-17 Thread Ryan Hill
Mike Frysinger wrote: > unadulterated log of the meeting will be synced out to the servers in a bit: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20060616.txt I got http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20060615.txt Also the council project page links to 20060620.txt (?). --

[gentoo-dev] Re: Help offered - Portage tree

2008-03-13 Thread Ryan Hill
Fabio Erculiani wrote: [02:31] lxnay: we offer all of our work that you base your distribution off, and you don't contribute back at all, in any way. ^^ This is a really stupid sentence. It seems some of you don't even realize how many users we brought to Gentoo, and this is really sad. For t

[gentoo-dev] Last Rites - dev-util/jam

2008-03-16 Thread Ryan Hill
# Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (16 Mar 2008) # Mask for removal on 16 Apr 2008 # upstream unresponsive, replaced by dev-util/ftjam # Bug #173703 dev-util/jam -- fonts, gcc-porting, by design, by neglect mips, treecleaner,for a fact o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remaining PMS todo list etc

2008-03-19 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: There's an updated, pre-built copy of current PMS at: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spb/pms.pdf Thanks for keeping up with this. * 174335: Some ebuild use FEATURES. Can we get them to stop doing that, or do we have to force package managers to emulate it? We seriously

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remaining PMS todo list etc

2008-03-20 Thread Ryan Hill
Marius Mauch wrote: On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 18:32:41 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We seriously need a PM-independent way of saying "run the testsuite", "run the testsuite with user privledges", and "run the testsuite with root privledges if you c

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remaining PMS todo list etc

2008-03-21 Thread Ryan Hill
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:02:31 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about just checking EUID == 0 in src_test and skip the tests (with a ewarn message) if it doesn't match your needs? I thought I remembered someone raising a stink about checking permis

[gentoo-dev] Re: gcc-4.2 / gcc-4.3 plans

2008-04-28 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:14:37 -0400 Mike Frysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > the x86 cld revert is in now as well as some more upstream pr fixes. > i'll probably let things settle for this week and pending any > craziness, move gcc-4.3.0-r1 into ~arch in a week. i'll prob commit > some "obvi

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: media-fonts/sharefonts

2008-04-29 Thread Ryan Hill
In bug #218288, it was brought to our attention that media-fonts/sharefonts, which has been in our tree under a public-domain LICENSE, is anything but. Each of the fonts in this collection is released under a variety of restrictive or non-free licenses, the majority being shareware licenses that r

[gentoo-dev] Re: New developer : Markus Duft (mduft)

2008-04-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008 13:35:40 +0200 "Denis Dupeyron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's my pleasure to introduce Markus Duft (mduft) as a new developer. > He will go among us under the name of mduft, and will work in the > Gentoo/Alt project porting Gentoo Prefix to Interix. Yes, people, that > mean

[gentoo-dev] Re: Last rites: media-fonts/sharefonts

2008-05-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:27:18 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In bug #218288, it was brought to our attention that > media-fonts/sharefonts, which has been in our tree under a > public-domain LICENSE, is anything but. Each of the fonts in this > collection is releas

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 07 May 2008 16:23:12 +0300 Mart Raudsepp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Over the course of this year, a lzma-utils buildtime dependency has > been added to a few system packages, to handle .tar.lzma tarballs. > This has huge implications on the requirement of the system toolchain

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: lzma tarball usage

2008-05-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 08 May 2008 09:17:08 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > The new lzma-utils codebase uses liblzma, written in C. It's at the > > alpha stage but supposedly supports encoding/decoding the current > > lzma format "wel

[gentoo-dev] Re: Moving some packages around

2008-05-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 12 May 2008 02:58:55 +0200 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > - bison and flex should get out of the system package set, what > clearer than moving them out of sys-*? They are not so commonly used > so there should no compelling reason to have them installed on every >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Moving some packages around

2008-05-11 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 11 May 2008 19:46:36 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I guess I don't see the point. If you do move them, don't forget > about documentation changes. Also consider that people searching for bugs about dev-util/ccache for example won't find ma

[gentoo-dev] reminder - mips is unstable

2008-05-16 Thread Ryan Hill
Just a friendly reminder. Because the stable mips keyword is being phased out, there is no need to CC mips on stabilization bugs. Also try to refrain from dropping the mips keyword because of repoman warnings. They are probably caused by an ebuild having a stable mips keyword and a dependency on

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?

2008-05-28 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 29 May 2008 01:13:16 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, do you think it should be enabled by default? Yes please. :) I haven't had any problems in the couple of months i've been using it. -- fonts, gcc-porting, by design, by neglect mips,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for June

2008-06-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:41:28 +0200 Raúl Porcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Requesting ~arch keywords: Is a maintainer able to request ~arch > keywords, if the package is not a dependency of some other package > which is keyworded, and the maintainer doesn't have that arch? Yes. Last time I loo

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 19:11:44 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:46:53 +0100 > George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Correct. Only developers can vote but anyone can nominate: > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ > > 6. Voting Process > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Default blank lines for error, elog, einfo, etc

2008-06-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:31:58 -0600 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > William L. Thomson Jr. wrote: > > Just a quick thought looking over a couple ebuilds. It seems most > > times anyone does a error, elog, einfo, or similar. They start and > > end with a few blank lines. Calls with no argu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations for council

2008-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 5 Jun 2008 22:41:40 +0300 Samuli Suominen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tue, 3 Jun 2008 05:52:35 + > Ferris McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> kirjoitti: > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > > > I think nominations are open. I nominate > > Then I'd like to nom

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations for council

2008-06-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 01:08:24 +0200 Patrick Börjesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > just picking a random mail to reply to. > > > > gentoo-project people! this is why it exists. > > > > > > Actually, it was stated in the originating mail (starting the > nomination period) that "All nominations

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 15:46:10 -0400 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I nominate: > > dev-zero > dirtyepic > zmedico Thanks, but I'm not sure what I could do to fix this crazy thing. -- gcc-porting, by design, by neglect treecleaner,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:00:55 +0100 "Alex Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/6/7 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Thanks, but I'm not sure what I could do to fix this crazy thing. > > > > Precisely why you'd be perfect for

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:42:34 +0200 Bo Ørsted Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Err.. Maybe this could have been phrased better but then I did expect > you would look at the bug before commenting. The idea is to enable > tests by default in EAPI 2 and beyond and let them stay off by > default in

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:19:16 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 23:16:04 -0600 > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > if people are just going to RESTRICT tests when they fail (and they > > will, because it's a hell o

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:35:52 +0200 Marius Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ignoring possible semantic issues for the moment, I'd be against this > simply because it would require the PM to be aware of the current > revision of the repository and to transform it into a integer value > (trivial fo

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:53:51 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:19:32 +0200 > > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> I'm confused. If I have a gcc-4.4.0.live ebuild which checks out > >>> rev. 136737, after the merge do I hav

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:01:15 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:27:22 +0200 > Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Many of them applies as well to the alternative proposal, I wonder > > how you could say we, council, had to vote the other proposal give

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 12:32:22 + Patrick Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, here's a silly idea - > > tag the ebuilds with metadata. We already have RESTRICT, why not add > a "LIVE" variable. The package manager can then treat all ebuilds > with that tag differently. Scripts can find them

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:55:27 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > So every user will have a different _preN version which would vary > > depending on how often they rebuild the package and that has > > absolutely no correlation with

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:34:21 +0200 Bernd Steinhauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill schrieb: > No, the idea behind ESCM_LOGDIR was different. > If you just want the revision of the current installed thing, you can > grep through the environment. > > ESCM_LOGDIR m

[gentoo-dev] Re: tetex maintainance (RFH?)

2008-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:57:45 +0200 Alexis Ballier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The other option is to p.mask and last rite it, breaking mips and s390 > trees, leaving them without tex support at all. This would also > leave arm and sh with only ptex as tex support. Thus that is not > really an opt

[gentoo-dev] Re: A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:16:36 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bernd Steinhauser wrote: > > Wow, impressive. > > > > Actually, you can't be serious... > > I am. > > GLEP 54 for quite some time now and it works very well. > > adds nothing to - and sets usage as is. > > I just d

[gentoo-dev] Re: Council nominations deadline

2008-06-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:16:00 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The current nominees and the state of their acceptance can > be checked on > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/voting-logs/council-2008-nominees.xml > If there's someone else you would like to nominate

[gentoo-dev] Re: Packages broken by phase ordering change

2008-06-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:21:24 -0700 Chris Gianelloni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 15:09 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:55:29 +0200 > > "Santiago M. Mola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > As discussed in bug #222721, portage has changed the execution >

[gentoo-dev] Re: EAPI-2 - Let's get it started

2008-06-21 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:20:03 +0200 Luca Barbato <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Santiago M. Mola wrote: > > Upstream clearly states that a gmp build which tests have failed > > shouldn't be used. I bet they deny support for users who fail to > > follow that indication ;-) > > gmp isn't a key compone

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:17:48 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 24-06-2008 14:15:10 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis > wrote: > > I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the > > following flags: "-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common". > > > > -

[gentoo-dev] Re: When the version scheme changes

2008-06-29 Thread Ryan Hill
"Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marius Mauch wrote: > > "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Marius Mauch wrote: > > I don't really see how making PV not read-only is any easier > > than using MY_PV. Did you expect changing PV to magically > >

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-06-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:42:49 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Frysinger kirjoitti: > > On Saturday 28 June 2008, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis kirjoitti: > >>> I would like to suggest that default LDFLAGS in Gentoo contain the > >>> following flag

[gentoo-dev] Re: [v3] Planning for automatic assignment of bugs

2008-07-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 23:07:03 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 4. If we have a valid category name, but no valid package atoms (this > may be a new or misspelt package), try to figure out which team might > want it. Use the category-level metadata.xml file. I wonder how often

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-scheme/drscheme: ChangeLog reversion.patch drscheme-4.0.1.ebuild drscheme-0.372-r1.ebuild

2008-07-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:23:01 +0200 "Marijn Schouten (hkBst)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 04:53:06PM +, Marijn Schouten (hkbst) > > wrote: > >> hkbst 08/06/28 16:53:06 > >> > >> Mod

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: 0-day bump requests

2008-07-07 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 10:10:14 -0400 Jim Ramsay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here's an interesting solution for those who find it annoying though: > Just file your own 0-day bump request in bugzilla. In theory some > users would find this and just CC themselves on it. Other users could > be shushed w

[gentoo-dev] Re: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-08 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't think it's worth losing track of the CVS history just so we > can have something in a different place that ultimately is hardly > useful to anyone. Maybe it's time to test the feasibility of moving to SVN again

[gentoo-dev] Re: sci-libs/scipy -> dev-python/scipy ?

2008-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 20:49:43 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 19:14 Tue 08 Jul , Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 21:02:37 -0700 > > Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I don't think it's worth

[gentoo-dev] Re: Suggested default LDFLAGS+="-Wl,-O1,--hash-style=gnu,--sort-common"

2008-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 21:15:32 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008-07-09 15:45:15 Doug Goldstein napisał(a): > > Luca Barbato wrote: > > > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > >> On 30-06-2008 17:35:08 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar > > >> Arahesis wrote: > > How

[gentoo-dev] Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for July

2008-07-09 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 01:40:13 -0700 Donnie Berkholz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Slacker arches > -- > Preparation: vapier needs to send the post 4+ hours before the > meeting. (Mike, is this ever going to happen?) I believe he's out of the country until August. -- gcc-porting,

[gentoo-dev] Re: LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:00 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 15-07-2008 15:32:32 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > all, > > > > I'm at the point that -Wl,-O1 appears to be successful. It's time > > to toss on -Wl,--hash-style=gnu. The issue is that we need glibc > > 2.5 or high

[gentoo-dev] Re: LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu

2008-07-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:09:36 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:00 +0200 > > Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On 15-07-2008 15:32:32 -0400, Doug Goldstein wrote: > >&

[gentoo-dev] Re: IBM article of interest ?

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:20:15 -0400 Philip Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 080717 Jeremy Olexa wrote: > > Philip Webb wrote: > >> [2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html > >> '03 Jul 2008' has been added since I sent my comment to them > >> yesterday ! However, the incorre

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: mozcoreconf-2.eclass

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:55:00 + "Raul Porcel (armin76)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > armin76 08/07/18 17:55:00 > > Modified: mozcoreconf-2.eclass > Log: > Enable by default mozilla's optimization > +IUSE="${IUSE} custom-optimization" > + Could you use custom-cflags for

[gentoo-dev] Re: system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 18:01:23 -0400 Doug Goldstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With the new split in Portage where system set packages are not > considered in an "emerge -auDNv world" unless something in world > RDEPENDs on it brings about a few issues. Just curious, what are the benefits of no

[gentoo-dev] Re: system set no longer in part of world set

2008-07-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:13:01 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just curious, what are the benefits of not having world include > system? Nevermind, I just found your post explaining this. -- gcc-porting, by design, by neglect

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:36:28 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to suggest new policy stating that packages should > respect LDFLAGS. Small amount of packages which ignore LDFLAGS should > be patched to respect them. Such patches are usually small a

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 18:37:06 +0200 Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Loeser (Halcy0n) (QA project leader) said on 2008-07-24 that > this policy doesn't exist. I understand that bug reports about > LDFLAGS being ignored are usually fixed, so I ask for the formal

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New policy: LDFLAGS should be respected

2008-07-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 02:12:13 +0300 Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that I have ever seen a package that breaks with --as-needed > though. Of course that's just me. Well, then, behold: http://tinyurl.com/5jvkm9 Now you have. Enjoy. :) -- gcc-porting,

[gentoo-dev] LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-26 Thread Ryan Hill
I have an interesting (to me anyways) question. Should LICENSE changes require a revision bump? It kinda seems to me the answer should be yes. I don't know if any PM currently implements LICENSE filtering so there may not be any technical reason for it yet. And so I guess it comes down to a phi

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] What features should be included in EAPI 2?

2008-08-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:27:03 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > >> b) Does it really matter? > > > > In the grand scheme of things, no. In the grand scheme of things, > > you only *need* a single src_ function. From a maintainer > > convenience perspective, ho

[gentoo-dev] Re: media-fonts/droid licensing: should fonts include Apache license in tarball?

2008-08-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:25:42 +0400 Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello. > > There are droid fonts package in the tree. Author states that they are > apache licensed [1] (supposedly similar to google's android sdk) but > license itself is not included in the package (only .ttf files ar

[gentoo-dev] Re: LICENSE and revbumps

2008-08-27 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:02:02 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:17:48 -0600 > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Should LICENSE changes require a revision bump? > > No. > > Any ebuild should be published with

[gentoo-dev] Re: FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 02:05:07 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've been trying to find a way that > will allow users to do an FHS compliant install if they want it, > while at the same time still allowing those that are not interested > in it to keep using the curre

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Extend blocker syntax to indicate when conflicting packages may be temporarily installed simultaneously (for EAPI 2)

2008-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 15:38:43 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi everyone, > > Please consider a blocker syntax extension, for inclusion in EAPI 2, > which will serve to indicate that conflicting packages may be > temporarily inst

[gentoo-dev] Re: Making built_with_use die by default with EAPI 2

2008-09-20 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 22:05:43 +0300 Petteri Räty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alexis Ballier kirjoitti: > > Hi, > > > >> When EAPI 2 goes live built_with_use should probably die for most > >> cases. > > > > I don't understand here: you mean die like being removed or die like > > the die call in

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: addition of virtual/fonts package

2008-09-22 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:03:53 -0500 Jeremy Olexa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm thinking that a virtual/fonts package would be a good addition to > the tree. We have hit this issue in Gentoo Prefix where any font > package would satisfy a dependency. I also have an open bug where a > package dep

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-09-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:31:46 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can package.use syntax be extended to allow set entries? > > @compiz-fusion -gnome kde kde4 > > Perhaps, but we need to clarify how that sort of setting will affect > nested sets. For example, if @compiz-fusion contains

[gentoo-dev] Re: Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 22:24:35 +0200 Jeroen Roovers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please people, > > >if you want to get something tested, then don't mask it. Um... no? One thing that package.mask has always been used for is temporarily masking a package until it can be tested and then unleash

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-10-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:51:53 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Zac Medico wrote: > > Ryan Hill wrote: > >> Though what happens if a package is in both sets which have > >> conflicting flags in package.use? I would say th

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-10-03 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:05:53 -0600 Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:51:53 + > "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ryan, I disagree with your proposal. If I enable a use flag for the > > "meta

[gentoo-dev] Re: Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 03:44:20 -0700 "Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For projects where the upstream has vanished off the face of the > planet, and the project was reasonably obscure, but the code works > fine still, there's problems with either the requirements of HOMEPAGE > or the r

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] PROPERTIES=set for meta-packages that should behave like package sets

2008-10-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 10:17:05 -0700 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ryan Hill wrote: > > Though I'm still not sure what happens when a package is in two > > unrelated sets.. > > > &

[gentoo-dev] Re: "Slacking" arches - which are stable, which aren't?

2008-10-05 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:44:51 -0500 Jeremy Olexa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would suggest moving all the "slacking" arches to "experimental" > until there is desire from the dev community (read: manpower) to > support a stable tree again. Until then, it seems pretty pointless to > keep assignin

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] New keywords for non-Gentoo Linux platforms

2008-10-10 Thread Ryan Hill
On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:15:16 +0200 Fabian Groffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, x64 is the marketing name Microsoft made up for x86_64 (aka > > amd64, ia32e and Intel 64), as "Windows for x86_64" doesn't sound > > that sexy, and was later adopted by Sun and others. > > ia64/Itanium doesn't h

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in dev-lang/python: ChangeLog python-2.6.ebuild python-2.5.2-r6.ebuild

2008-10-13 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:59:00 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thomas Sachau wrote: > > > what about this: > > insinto /usr/share/doc/${P}/examples > Is there any chance we can start using correctly quoted filenames > across the board? This is correctly quoted, so, yep. -- gcc-por

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:22:09 +0100 Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:06:40 +0100 > > Steve Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Have a look at, for example, [1], where Mike already gave you an > >> > answer one of the previous times we d

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] some global useflags

2008-10-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:36:32 +0200 Markus Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > html 7 > editor6 > tools 6 > music 5 > http 5 > web 5 All way too genera

[gentoo-dev] GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-10-31 Thread Ryan Hill
In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with 4.3, and if not please stabilize a version that does in the near future if at all possible. Stabilizing this version is going to be a huge job due to the number of

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 1 Nov 2008 14:30:09 +0100 Christian Faulhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Ryan Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > > ask maintainers check if their current stable packa

[gentoo-dev] Re: GCC 4.3 pre-stabilization

2008-11-01 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:30:41 +0100 Jose Luis Rivero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ryan Hill wrote: > > In anticipation of getting GCC 4.3 stabilized sometime, I'd like to > > ask maintainers check if their current stable packages build with > > 4.3, and if not plea

[gentoo-dev] Re: Reinstating eclasses

2008-11-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:43:55 -0500 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christoph Mende wrote: > > Now the most logical name for an eclass like that > > would be xfce4.eclass, except that eclass already exists. > > Since the new eclass is not version specific, how about simply > "xfce.eclass

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:31:47 +0100 Peter Alfredsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > There is still no solution for things that do not break ABI, but get > > rebuilt with different USE flags, for example the USE=esd fiasco > > where to get rid of

[gentoo-dev] Re: Please review: function epunt_la_files for eutils.eclass

2008-11-14 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:31:47 +0100 Peter Alfredsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 12 November 2008, Mart Raudsepp wrote: > > There is still no solution for things that do not break ABI, but get > > rebuilt with different USE flags, for example the USE=esd fiasco > > where to get rid o

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remember: workarounds don't warrant RESO FIXED!

2008-11-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:24:34 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > Guys, please remember that if you work something around, you should > _not_ close the bug as RESO FIXED but keep the bug open so that the > issue can be addressed and fixed _properly_. Otherwise we'll end up

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-16 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If an ebuild meets the time criteria above, and there are no > technical issues preventing stabilization, then the maintainer MAY [...] mark that ebuild as stable on every keyworded arch (that has a stable keyword). > If

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-17 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-11-16 at 18:38 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > > > > The maintainer MUST NOT NEVER EVER NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT remove the > > latest stable ebuild of an arch without the ap

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:57:23 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2008-11-17 at 19:08 -0600, Ryan Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:10:57 -0500 > > Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Sun,

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-18 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:04:33 -0500 Daniel Gryniewicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Honestly, I don't want to be a dick to the arch teams. I really > don't. But I *also* don't want them (or policy) to be a dick to me. > That's my whole point; that requirement of never removing the last > stable ebu

[gentoo-dev] Re: Remember: workarounds don't warrant RESO FIXED!

2008-11-19 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:52:25 +0300 Peter Volkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > В Вск, 16/11/2008 в 15:33 -0600, Ryan Hill пишет: > > > > > - FEATURES=test failures; > > > > And what we are su

[gentoo-dev] Re: Some support for Sunrise Overlay :-)

2008-11-24 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 17:31:34 +0100 Thomas Sachau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. i dont read it ;-) > 2. it is around help with every sort of ebuilds, not only those in or > for sunrise, so would have some "spam" e.g. for me There have been a grand total of 20 messages since we added it to gmane

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Saving package emerge output (einfo, elog, ewarn, etc.) somewhere official

2008-11-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 10:11:49 -0700 Joe Peterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Peter Volkov wrote: > > Seems that we already have everything you dreamed about: > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3&chap=1#doc_chap4 > > > > Take a look at PORTAGE_ELOG_SYSTEM. It eve

[gentoo-dev] Re: Proposal for how to handle stable ebuilds

2008-11-30 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:13:34 -0500 Mark Loeser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Instead of addressing archs as being slackers or not, this addresses > it as a more granular layer of looking at ebuilds. Thanks to Richard > Freeman for the initial proposal that I based this off of. Please > give me fe

[gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Moving HOMEPAGE out of ebuilds for the future

2008-12-02 Thread Ryan Hill
On Mon, 01 Dec 2008 10:00:33 +0100 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò) wrote: > "Alec Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That being said I still don't see the usefulness here. > > > > You seem to think that using the existing APIs for this data is > > wrong, and I think the oppos

[gentoo-dev] Re: Soliciting news items to test GLEP 42 support in sys-apps/portage-2.1.6_rc

2008-12-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:12:58 -0800 Zac Medico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > The GLEP 42 news support [1] is going to be available in stable when > sys-apps/portage-2.1.6 is marked stable later this month. I think > the news code is prett

[gentoo-dev] Re: reorganization of /var/lib gentoo-related files

2009-01-06 Thread Ryan Hill
On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:12:23 +0100 Fabio Rossi wrote: > I'm proposing to reorganize the files related to Gentoo > inside /var/lib. Currently we have this situation (at least on my > system): > > /var/lib/eselect > /var/lib/gentoo/enews > /var/lib/herdstat/ > /var/lib/module-rebuild > /var/lib/po

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