Re: [gentoo-dev] About XFCE, renames, eclass, etc

2009-09-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: [. . .] Thanks for the message, Jeremy; it's informative and appreciated! - xfce-config.xml: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xfce-config.xml Josh (nightmorph) updated this, basically an after thought by us so thanks Josh! - xfce4-meta : former name xfce-base/xfce4. Renamed

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2009.0 profiles

2009-08-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Samuli Suominen wrote: You do realize all this discussion is now pointless as 10.0 profiles are in place already? :-p So what do we do? Sebastian http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-upgrading.xml signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 LiveDVD release enhancements

2009-08-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Samuli Suominen wrote: 2. Enable HybridISO for the images What's this? Explain! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: Josh Saddler wrote: Why isn't this on git.overlays.gentoo.org? If it's not on Gentoo infrastructure, it's not official. Q: Are All Official Overlays Hosted On overlays.gentoo.org? A: No. Gentoo developers are free to put their overlay wherever suits them best

Re: [gentoo-dev] Multimedia overlay

2009-08-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, The qting-edge overlay (the official overlay for the Gentoo Qt team) is a great success as a place to develop new ebuilds, packages, eclasses, to prepare new releases, to maintain bleeding edge stuff like live ebuilds and especially as a training ground for new

Re: [gentoo-dev] New 10.0 profiles are in repository

2009-08-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Mart Raudsepp wrote: I wanted to work at some point on splitting out gnome and kde profiles to separate ones. Perhaps desktop profile could be a generic universal one with USE flags enabled that rox/lxde/fluxbox and so on would like as well, and then gnome adds its stuff, and kde adds its own

Re: [gentoo-dev] Qt3 deprecation

2009-07-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Dear fellow devs, We would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Gentoo Qt team now officially discourages further usage of Qt3. Version 3 is no longer being developed or supported upstream. All users are strongly encouraged to use Qt version 4 where

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: About time to unify 'cdda' and 'cdaudio' USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Lars Wendler wrote: Let's finally move on regarding this topic. As I'm also in favour of the cdda USE flag I'd like to know if there's any objection against the decision to unify/convert the cdaudio USE flag into cdda. If there's no good reason against this conversion I will proceed with

Re: [gentoo-dev] About time to unify cdda and cdaudio USE flags and make the remaining one global?

2009-07-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Sebastian Pipping wrote: Rémi Cardona wrote: And now for some bikeshedding fun, which flag are we going to keep? ;) My vote would be for cdaudio as that - is more general (including analog playback) - is more user friendly but let those decide who implement it. I'm also in favor of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Samuli Suominen wrote: Robin H. Johnson wrote: GDP team: (I didn't hear from you in the bug) Could you please update: - handbook section Writing Init scripts - OpenRC migration guide ACK on this one, we are already overwhelmed by openrc changes wrt init scripts at media teams. Or at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Detecting Baselayout2/OpenRC from init.d scripts (summary of debate and plans from bug 270646)

2009-06-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: [stuff] Thanks, will take a look. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] New app-eselect category?

2009-05-26 Thread Josh Saddler
AllenJB wrote: I'd favor tags over increasing the category levels, tho I'm not convinced either is necessary at the current time (tho tags might make searching easier, in some ways). Heck yes! Tags are a good idea. The idea's been raised on -dev a few times. I suppose they're not (yet)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC:sys-apps/portage @overlay atoms postfix support

2009-05-25 Thread Josh Saddler
lx...@sabayonlinux.org wrote: Adding @overlay atoms/deps postfix support could really make life easier, especially because forcing specific atoms in *DEPEND hoping that these will be always pulled in from the same overlay is not something reliable, as you already know. No. This is a terrible

Re: [gentoo-dev] RfC: News item for Baselayout 2 stabilisation

2009-05-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: I hope it goes without saying that bug 213988 (http://bugs.gentoo.org/213988) should be resolved before either stabilization or news posting. The doc is somewhat out of date now. I assume you mean the baselayout-2/openrc migration guide? Not as far as we know. And what we,

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo Support Everywhere

2009-05-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Jesús Guerrero wrote: Hello, This is a request for comments on a new project, namely Gentoo Support Everywhere. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gse/ The web page doesn't really explain all the background needed to understand why would anyone want to start such a project. However this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming Willikins downtime

2009-04-14 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: Hi folks, just a quick note, since the Willikins bot is widely used now. Due to the datacentre where the bot is hosted moving physical premises, there will be a downtime of 4-16 hours, starting Apr 15 04:00:00. 4 hours is the timeframe I've been told, but I think

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-soc] Gsoc Idea: EeePC Script/Build

2009-03-25 Thread Josh Saddler
Aaron Lebahn wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Andrey Falko afa...@gmail.com wrote: Would it be possible to integrate these scripts into Gentoo current graphical installer, as well as included on one of the minimal install CDs? Yes, That would be a good idea. I could add to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Ideas for a (fast) EAPI=3

2009-03-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Tiziano Müller wrote: Hi everyone With eapis 1 and 2 we introduced nice features but also a couple of new problems. One of them are the use dependencies when the package you depend on doesn't have the use flag anymore (see [1] for an example). So I think it's time for a short eapi bump

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: LC_ALL=C Set by default for portage

2009-03-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Dawid Węgliński wrote: On Sunday 08 of March 2009 23:50:08 Ryan Hill wrote: You do realize that many people don't speak any English, and therefore wouldn't be filing bugs anyways? They just want to use their computer. I'm not sure they will appreciate you forcing a language they don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] How to speed up maintenance and other Gentoo work?

2009-03-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Olivier Crête wrote: Maybe we could use the dev wiki for that kind of stuff? Having a wiki.gentoo.org would be even better... There is, but it's uber-sekrit. Or so I was told some years ago. It may or may not (still) exist. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Collecting opinions about GLEP 55 and alternatives

2009-02-25 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: Let's try something new. I would like to get opinions from as many people as possible about GLEP 55 and alternatives listed here in order to get some idea what the general developer pool thinks. Everyone is only allowed to post a single reply to this thread in order to make

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC + Bridge + Tap not working as expected?

2009-02-19 Thread Josh Saddler
This list is not a user support list. Please see the gentoo-user ML. You may also want to check http://forums.gentoo.org to see if anyone else has had the issue. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Can't format floppy or write to it...

2009-02-09 Thread Josh Saddler
This is not the right place to ask. Ask on either: 1. Gentoo forums: http://forums.gentoo.org 2. Gentoo user mailing list: gentoo-u...@lists.gentoo.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] new categories:

2009-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Maciej Mrozowski wrote: I was thinking, maybe it would be possible to drop categories completely in the future (maybe keeping symlinks for compatibility and to ease migration) and to put *all* packages in one directory - that would require making all names unique of course. Tags for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: PR Project Activity Issues

2009-01-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:47:04 -0800 Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: Is GuideXML in fact a barrier for submission (do we get complaints about it?) I seem to remember doc/newsletter people stating on multiple occasions that they're happy to accept plain text

[gentoo-dev] Handling Launchpad SRC_URI

2009-01-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Right now, there's no canonical (heh) way of handling SRC_URI for projects that have their files at launchpad.net. We need a standard way of handling Launchpad SRC_URIs, similar to what we do with mirror://sourceforge/ SRC_URIs. 1. Some packages use the launchpadlibrarian.net download redirect,

Re: [gentoo-dev] QEMU Sick!

2009-01-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Mateusz Mierzwinski (me.matheos.org) wrote: [Rant rant rant] 1. Stop bitching. 2. Go away. (Not necessarily in that order.) Oh, and by the way: - No serious Gentoo-Wiki - rewritten after great boom! Guess what? We don't own that. We don't control it. It has no affiliation with Gentoo; it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] glep-42-news: sparc multilib profile

2008-12-30 Thread Josh Saddler
Jeremy Olexa wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:04 AM, Friedrich Oslage blueb...@gentoo.org wrote: [1] http://dev.gentoo.org/~bluebird/sparc-multilib/ I would put it in the gentoo.org/doc/en/ domain and link to it in the gentoo-sparc index

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: disable python and perl USE flags in profile

2008-12-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Nathan Zachary wrote: If one has built a system with the default python and perl USE flags, what steps would be necessary to remove all packages and dependencies after removing them from the USE declarations? After kicking 'em out of make.conf, run emerge -pvtuDN world (the N is important; it

Re: [gentoo-dev] A tool helps to diff and override config files

2008-12-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Song Ma wrote: I tried dispatch-conf and etc-update. Here are two major differences from my tool: 1. For desktop user, my tool will invoke GUI based kdiff3 to do diff and merge files if the user installed the kdiff3. And for remote login user or the user without kdiff3, the tool will just

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-12 Thread Josh Saddler
Gokdeniz Karadag wrote: The wiki can be a staging ground for user contributed documents, which can become part of official docs after a review and cleanup by developers. . . . no, I'd think not. It takes time and effort to produce one of our polished, professional documents. That's duplicating

Re: [gentoo-dev] An official Gentoo wiki

2008-11-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Mark Loeser wrote: So, gentoo-wiki.com went down for a awhile and took something away from our users something that is useful. Its back now, but I think we should consider having our own official wiki that our users can contribute to. We already have something very similar to this on the

Re: [gentoo-dev] To ELISA, PIGMENT, PIGMENT-PYTHON dev's

2008-11-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Mateusz Mierzwinski (me.matheos.org) wrote: (stuff) http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159086 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). Comments are welcome! First, thanks for getting this stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Adding lxde-base category

2008-11-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Hi, I would like to add a new category to the tree: lxde-base, to be used for the LXDE desktop [1,2] packages, in correspondence to the categories for the other desktop environments we have (gnome, kde, xfce). With the help of a few users I have been developing ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] Flags to punt (including: kerberos USE flag)

2008-10-31 Thread Josh Saddler
Mart Raudsepp wrote: I'm believe the primary reason is for release LiveCD's. They ship with evolution-exchange, and that requires evolution/evolution-data-server to be built with USE=kerberos They don't do /etc/portage business, so it's a global USE flag to get things like GRP packages to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-10-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: Willikins was not in the following channels, as nobody requested it here yet. #gentoo-apache #gentoo-br #gentoo-db #gentoo-doc-nl #gentoo-embedded #gentoo-eselect #gentoo-hardened #gentoo-installer #gentoo-media #gentoo-netmon #gentoo-osx #gentoo-pms

Re: [gentoo-dev] Baselayout-2 / OpenRC Stabilization

2008-10-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Doug Goldstein wrote: As some people may have already noticed, I have recently added OpenRC 0.3.0 to the tree. This will be the stabilization candidate in approximately 30 days. I encourage everyone to kick the tires on this one. Current Bugs: *http://tinyurl.com/4housz* I need

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects without a homepage, and valid contents of HOMEPAGE (per bug 239268)

2008-10-06 Thread Josh Saddler
Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Sun, 5 Oct 2008, Robin H Johnson wrote: HOMEPAGE=http://this-package-has-no-homepage.gentoo.org/; That would impose needless lookups on subdomains of gentoo.org for clients trying to load the homepage. http://gentoo.org/package-has-no-homepage/ then. Couldn't a

Re: [gentoo-dev] developer profile

2008-10-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Thomas Sachau wrote: I just had a user in bugzilla who thought, the developer profile would be for software developers, not just for gentoo developers. Probably he is not the only one. What about either adding some big warning on portage output or renaming this profile to e.g.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Testing is not a valid reason to package.mask

2008-10-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Alec Warner wrote: If pmask is not for testing...what is it for? UT GOTY and nvidia-drivers, of course! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council meeting summaries for August September

2008-09-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Donnie Berkholz wrote: - All our docs should be updated to refer to irc.gentoo.org instead of irc.freenode.net. Fixed in irc.xml and most of our other documentation in /doc/en/; will fix the rest later. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Bug wrangling

2008-09-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Joe Peterson wrote: Sorry if this answer can be found elsewhere, but if one has a proxy maintainer (i.e. not a Gentoo dev) for a package, can/should this person be added to metadata.xml? Is there a special tag for this? I can certainly see this being helpful (so that person automatically gets

Re: [gentoo-dev] FHS compliant KDE install and multi-version support

2008-09-07 Thread Josh Saddler
Philip Webb wrote: I really do appreciate the hard volunteer work the KDE team donates have nothing but thanks to them all, but shouldn't your priority be to get KDE 4.1 into 'testing', so that users can actually try it out ? There's also 3.5.10 , which has been released, but isn't in Gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] LXDE project

2008-08-31 Thread Josh Saddler
Ben de Groot wrote: Hi everyone, I recently got interested in LXDE[1], the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment, and I would like to see this available in portage. At the moment there are, to my knowledge, 3 overlays maintained by users that include ebuilds for lxde. I think it is time to

Re: [gentoo-dev] The Plethora of Patches

2008-08-15 Thread Josh Saddler
Andrew D Kirch wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:17 AM, Andrew D Kirch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Looks like you counted the number of files in the files/ subdirectories. Not all of these are patches. Also, you probably forgot to count seds, as some of us use sed more

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP 56] metadata.xml USE flag descriptions [Clarifications]

2008-08-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Doug Goldstein wrote: Howdy all, Further questions regarding use.desc have come up with regard to this GLEP. My proposed solution would be a potential amendment to the GLEP to state that flag name='png' / Comments, Suggestions, Input are all welcome. If you're going for proper XML,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Proposal: Make developer profiles more difficult to select

2008-07-19 Thread Josh Saddler
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Reading around on the net, it amazes me how many people are using developer profiles for their Gentoo because they think it's for software developers and don't see that it's for Gentoo developers and not intended for end users. They know the Developer installation

Re: [gentoo-dev] IBM article of interest ?

2008-07-17 Thread Josh Saddler
Philip Webb wrote: 080716 Josh Saddler wrote: Philip Webb wrote: I'm not sure whether anyone among Gentoo officials cares about this, but IBM has an article http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html whose byline is very misleading may infringe on Gentoo's IP. I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] IBM article of interest ?

2008-07-16 Thread Josh Saddler
Philip Webb wrote: I'm not sure whether anyone among Gentoo officials cares about this, but IBM has an article http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-awk1.html whose byline is very misleading may infringe on Gentoo's IP. I have submitted a comment to IBM via their form at the

Re: [gentoo-dev] LDFLAGS=-Wl,--hash-style=gnu

2008-07-15 Thread Josh Saddler
Fabian Groffen wrote: I'm just wondering... unless it has changed since last time I installed Gentoo Linux, but isn't the installation manual on purpose conservative with CFLAGS? make.conf.example also does not much more than -march -O2 -pipe. -O1 to the linker feels conservative to me.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tags vs. categories (was: sci-libs/scipy - dev-python/scip)

2008-07-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Alec Warner wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 8:51 PM, Joe Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: I actually object to having crap in dev-python, because things should be categorized functionally instead of by the language they're implemented in. 90% of the time you don't care

Re: [gentoo-dev] Tags vs. categories

2008-07-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Tags . . . I like the idea. I like it a lot. Thoughts? Exciting? Or is it an old issue, and I'm 5 years late to the party. :) Probably more than 5... Well, that's not very helpful. Got any links? My archives.g.o-fu has failed me. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] MP4 global use flag

2008-06-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Steve Dibb wrote: Any objections to moving MP4 from a local to a global USE flag. For the record, MP4 is a multimedia container to store multiple audio/video formats in. Currently we have 4 ebuilds using it, all for the same description. 4 doesn't sound quite worthy of global, yet.

Re: [gentoo-dev] A few questions to our nominees

2008-06-09 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:49:35 +0200 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:50:11 +0200 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So how, specifically, is PMS wrongly written, and why hasn't anyone who thinks so bothered to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Council Idea

2008-06-06 Thread Josh Saddler
George Prowse wrote: [stuff] Take it to gentoo-project, please. This list is s'posed to be for technical discussion. gentoo-project is more appropriate for this kind of query. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009

2008-06-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Łukasz Damentko wrote: Hi guys, Nominations for the Gentoo Council 2008/2009 are open now and will be open for the next two weeks (until 23:59 UTC, 18/06/2008). Now that nominations are officially open, I nominate the current council members (again): amne betelgeuse dberkholz flameeyes

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations for council

2008-06-03 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: Alright. Then I'll nominate all members of the current council. In alphabetical order: amne betelgeuse dberkholz flameeyes jokey lu_zero vapier Seconded. (Also...it's voting time already? Can't believe it's already been a year.) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: --as-needed to default LDFLAGS (Was: RFC: Should preserve-libs be enabled by default?)

2008-05-30 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2008 15:07:43 -0700 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see that a number of packages in the tree explicitly filter -ffast-math. That's mostly from the bad old days when users were encouraged to use silly CFLAGS... 1. _When_ was this? 2. _Who_

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC baselayout-2 meets Gentoo

2008-03-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Doug Goldstein wrote: It appears my migration plan was not good enough for Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he went ahead and wrote his own version of the OpenRC ebuild, differing from the one in the OpenRC layman repo, and committed it to the tree this weekend. Since my offer to work on

Re: [gentoo-dev] OpenRC baselayout-2 meets Gentoo

2008-03-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Doug Goldstein wrote: All, This is a formal notice to everyone that OpenRC will be hitting the Gentoo tree sooner rather then later. I would like to see *ALL* arch teams give the current code a whirl on their systems, which is available via the layman module openrc. I would also like to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for March

2008-03-05 Thread Josh Saddler
Anant Narayanan wrote: [stuff] So basically, what you're looking for is something like Arch Linux's Trusted User (TU) concept[1]. That works for Arch, because they have 5 repositories (including a community repo), but I'm not sure how well that would fit Gentoo, where there's just one. We'd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Keyword amd64 - x86_64

2008-02-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: Beside, does it really changes stuff for anybody beside Intel fanboys? In fairness, not just for Intel fanboys. Drop by the forums some time and just try to count up all the threads asking are the amd64 stages/media appropriate for my computer? i have a core

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [RFC] Adding two USE flags to 2008.0's profiles

2008-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: Actually bluetooth support is in quite a good shape. The thing was there was a urgent need to get bluez-utils-3* stable for which I need some doc updates etc before it can go stable. (Yes I am a slacker there) Doc updates? GDP hasn't heard anything about this, as far as I

Re: [gentoo-dev] I want to steal your tools

2008-02-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Alec Warner wrote: s/writtten/written s/aggregrate/aggregate s/genitellia/genitalia app-doc/nightmorph, your spellchecking tool. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: removal of digest files from the tree

2008-01-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Zac Medico wrote: (shtuff) This sounds like something that might require extensive documentation changes. If so, please review the Portage Handbooks for anything that will need updating, as well as the Gentoo Upgrading Guide[1]. This latter document is where we keep the instructions for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: sys-devel/distcc-config

2008-01-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: # Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008) # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc # Masked for removal (treecleaner) # Bug #192741 sys-devel/distcc-config Given that this is being removed, can you or someone in charge of distcc packages please provide a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last Rites: sys-devel/distcc-config

2008-01-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: Josh Saddler kirjoitti: Ryan Hill wrote: # Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] (10 Jan 2008) # Duplicates functionality already in sys-devel/distcc # Masked for removal (treecleaner) # Bug #192741 sys-devel/distcc-config Given that this is being removed, can you or someone

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Reducing the size of the system package set

2008-01-09 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Frysinger wrote: Well, openssh has always been questionable. Sure, *I* think it should be on any Gentoo system I'd want to touch, but it really isn't necessary for a lot of people. Moving this to, say, the server profiles only would be acceptable to me, but then again, so is leaving it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Projects and subproject status

2008-01-09 Thread Josh Saddler
Luca Barbato wrote: Here is a list of interesting questions: Are we fine? What are we going to do? Documentation (Note: I'm not the project lead, but neysx isn't on the list, nor does he send status updates, so I hope he and the rest of the project won't mind. Are we fine? Sure, why not.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: Donnie Berkholz kirjoitti: Unportable to filesystems that don't support extended attributes isn't very interesting to me, unless they're common. Out of curiosity, do you know which ones that would be? Looking at my kernel config, ext3 and reiser explicitly support

Re: [gentoo-dev] [GLEP] Use EAPI-suffixed ebuilds (.ebuild-EAPI)

2007-12-20 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:17:12 +0100 Luca Barbato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Putting a tag in the file name or at the to of the file as comment (maybe using a #! line) is the same ... * It's a format restriction. Some formats have to start with something that's not #!.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for December

2007-12-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Jose Luis Rivero wrote: I would suggest this kind of question based on the different ideas shown by the developers comunity: - What is proper way to make changes to ebuild related information (metadata.dtd)? Do we need a GLEP? It only need to be discussed in -dev first? Gentoo-doc is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add USE_EXPAND for apache

2007-11-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Josh Saddler wrote: Benedikt Böhm wrote: If this goes through, please look over our existing apache-related documentation and file a bug with any necessary changes. I updated our documentation, thanks to the massive patch sent my way by hollow. (Thanks, Benedikt!) As mentioned in an email

Re: [gentoo-dev] Add USE_EXPAND for apache

2007-11-24 Thread Josh Saddler
Benedikt Böhm wrote: Hi all, the current behaviour of the apache ebuild -- chosing built-in modules based on /etc/apache2/apache-builtin-mods -- is very aweful, especially for binary packages. Therefore, i would like to add APACHE2_MODULES and APACHE2_MPMS to USE_EXPAND. I have

Re: [gentoo-dev] packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-14 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: I've been asking and looking, but have not yet found, a version of the logo without the spotlight effect on the background. What about http://www.gentoo.org/images/gentoo-logo.svg ? It's just the G, without any attached background or halo effect. Convert it to a png or

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Place of EAPI variable in ebuild

2007-11-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: ...which is just as good as broken when it happens to a new user first installing Gentoo and wondering why he can't even follow the directions in the Handbook. ...so you just ensure that the handbook tells the user to upgrade the package manager as quickly as

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: packages.gentoo.org lives!

2007-11-13 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: There isn't meant to be the big black area at the top like, the main gentoo.org site. But shouldn't there be some sort of area at the top with links to the other parts of the site, as the other pages do (the navstrip across the top)? Right now there's zero integration

Re: [gentoo-dev] death to mailer-config/mailwrapper

2007-11-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: A bit over two years ago, some developers set out to get debian's concept of mailerwrapper ('alternatives' for mail). Ever since then, there have been a number of package.masks for various MTAs, and the need to carry them forward. mailer-config/mailwrapper have not

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: modplug

2007-11-01 Thread Josh Saddler
Samuli Suominen wrote: I'd like to add USE modplug to use.desc. I'll do it tomorrow, unless someone objects. -- snip -- local use flags (searching: modplug) [-] modplug (gnustep-apps/cynthiune): Build with modplug support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Slapd calls nss_ldap before opening its ports

2007-10-29 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: I may venture to assume that repetitive error messages of that plenty could be seen at least as a documentation bug. Which should be filed as a bug report or sent to the gentoo-doc list. It's not a Gentoo documentation bug, so don't bother to file one, nor mention it

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Dawid Węgliński (cla)

2007-10-16 Thread Josh Saddler
Denis Dupeyron wrote: He will now be a full developer and work with the net-irc and x86 arch teams. Point of clarification: He already *was* a full developer before; he's just now *also* an ebuild developer. You make it sound like non-ebuild devs with different kinds of commit access aren't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Hoffmann wrote: On 2007-10-10 at 22:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: Since you're doing the masking, can you please help out the GDP by reviewing a few of our documents for any potential changes that must be made? Grepping for php4 shows that there are references in the following

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Josh Saddler wrote: Christian Hoffmann wrote: On 2007-10-10 at 22:44 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: Since you're doing the masking, can you please help out the GDP by reviewing a few of our documents for any potential changes that must be made? Grepping for php4 shows that there are references

Re: [gentoo-dev] Upcoming masking of dev-lang/php-4* and packages depending on it

2007-10-10 Thread Josh Saddler
Christian Hoffmann wrote: Heya, I'm going to p.mask =dev-lang/php-4* and all packages explicitly depending on this version of php (i.e. the whole dev-php4/ category (36 packages) and one webapp, www-apps/knowledgetree, bug 194894 [1]) next weekend (around Oct 14th). This step is necessary

Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer : Mike Pagano (mpagano)

2007-10-04 Thread Josh Saddler
Andrew Gaffney wrote: Denis Dupeyron wrote: Yes people, Mike is older than Uncle Seemant, and even older than me. But is he older than nerdboy? Do we have competition for the Crotchety Old Man title? Are we going to hear lots of stories that start with when I was your age? Welcome Mike!

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-wm/ion2

2007-09-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Doty wrote: Matti Bickel wrote: Hi, as previously mentioned, ion2 is currently broken (bug #167468) and going away in favour of the soon to be stable x11-wm/ion3. It will be p.masked and removed in 30 days unless someone speaks up and solves the issues surrounding slotted lua among

Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: x11-wm/ion2

2007-09-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Dawid Węgliński wrote: Dnia 11-09-2007, wto o godzinie 18:36 -0700, Chris Gianelloni napisał(a): On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 17:54 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: Mike Doty wrote: Matti Bickel wrote: Hi, as previously mentioned, ion2 is currently broken (bug #167468) and going away in favour

Re: [gentoo-dev] On my way out....

2007-08-28 Thread Josh Saddler
Gustavo Zacarias wrote: I resign as gentoo developer. Infra: please remove my accounts. But! But! But you're the only sparc team member that ever bothered to help me with the sparc handbook updates and other documents. Sorry to see you go; I've enjoyed working with you. Fortune to your

Re: [gentoo-dev] 2.4 profiles are on their way out!

2007-08-27 Thread Josh Saddler
Chris Gianelloni wrote: On Mon, 2007-08-27 at 16:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: Let this be a lesson to everyone. Just because you discussed it a couple months ago doesn't necessarily mean: a) it is still wanted -or- b) it is still valid so what is the 2.4 status then ? Well, we still

Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/ppp/(ip-up.d,ip-down.d} directories

2007-08-26 Thread Josh Saddler
Alin Năstac wrote: A gentoo user requested in bug 190143 [1] to change the way pppd deals with interface up/down events. He requested to break current ip-up/ip-down functionality into different scripts contained in /etc/ppp/(ip-up.d,ip-down.d}. What do you think about? Is it worth it?

Re: [gentoo-dev] LinuxWorld pictures and Dev House

2007-08-11 Thread Josh Saddler
Mike Lundy wrote: Quite the crew: http://www.flickr.com/photos/novas0x2a/1079324702/. Also, http://www.flickr.com/photos/novas0x2a/1079315370/ (If anyone in the pictures wants to be tagged, let me know, or just send me a friend request and then do it yourself) Solar must be a vampire- he

Re: [gentoo-dev] One-Day Gentoo Council Reminder for August

2007-08-08 Thread Josh Saddler
Grant Goodyear wrote: Vapier wrote: [Tue Aug 07 2007, 10:16:55PM CDT] This is your one-day friendly reminder ! The monthly Gentoo Council meeting is tomorrow in #gentoo-council on irc.freenode.net. See the channel topic for the exact time (but it's probably 2000 UTC). Um, I'm pretty sure

Re: [gentoo-dev] Pending death of mail-filter/spamassassin-ruledujour

2007-08-02 Thread Josh Saddler
Robin H. Johnson wrote: Heya, The upstream rules_du_jour folk have had issues over the last few months with DDoS and other attacks. Additionally, the nature of their original update mechanism causes a lot of traffic. Everybody that is using rules_du_jour is strongly encouraged to move to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Nominations open for the Gentoo Council 2007/08

2007-07-31 Thread Josh Saddler
Blackace wrote: I'd like to nominate: vapier tsunam nightmorph seemant avenj christel Although most of them will probably decline, I think they would do an excellent job straightening out Gentoo's heading and have the barnacles to perform the requisite keelhauling. I appreciate the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: joining the Software Freedom Conservancy

2007-07-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Ryan Hill wrote: Marius Mauch wrote: While I think this would be an excellent move, there are a few topics that concern me a bit: 1) just to be sure, did someone check the transfer agreement between the Foundation and the old Gentoo, Inc for potential problems? 2) what would this mean for

Re: [gentoo-dev] please drop support for 2.4

2007-07-22 Thread Josh Saddler
Rajiv Aaron Manglani wrote: hello all. i would like to propose that we officially drop support for 2.4 kernel profiles (especially default-linux/x86/no-nptl/2.4). over the last few months it has been increasingly difficult to keep 2.4 systems up to date. vanilla-sources is the only place to

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 11:48 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: (GDP): you give us the info, we'll document it for you. Or I will at least. Well, the changes are as outlined in my first email. The user changes are mainly a few variables in the /etc/conf.d/* files that baselayout

Re: [gentoo-dev] baselayout-2 stablisation plans

2007-07-21 Thread Josh Saddler
Roy Marples wrote: On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 17:25 -0700, Josh Saddler wrote: Archiving the handbook isn't possible. Why? Unless I'm missing something, it should be fairly trivial. It ain't. It's an old issue. Current networked (requires a net connection to install) handbooks go to /doc/en

Re: [gentoo-dev] Zombie: Sven Vermeulen (swift)

2007-07-18 Thread Josh Saddler
Petteri Räty wrote: Your doc zombie Sven Vermeulen has risen from his grave and is back to beat www.gentoo.org/doc/en with his fingers. Give him the usual welcome with nice head shots. Hi SwifTy. See you 'round our channel! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

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