Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT serial port program with a gui interface
For simple programs, maybe Gambas will work. It's a bit like M$ Visual Basic. There is an example for the serial port included. 2007/7/3, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: James ha scritto: Well those are OK but, I was hoping for something with a few simple input boxes, so the user can input, say a floating point varialble or an integer varialble inside the box, then my program would use the 9600 baud serial port to transfer the parameter setting to a specific register on the microP. Likewise the program (gui) could interrogate the microP and discover various settings/values, using the gui interface. A raw terminal session will work, but, it helps me to be able to put simple graphics and other things beside the IO gui boxes (my jargon is neophyte. maybe they are called dialog boxes to gui programmers?) I know how to do all of the serial stuff on the linux and microP side, I just am not much of a gui developer (to say the least) It can be simple to the point of spartan on the gui side of things, I usually use C underneath and on the micro. If you know c++, I guess you can use the GUI library wxWindows and code the gui yourself. It's not that hard (I use the wxWindows library under Python, however). m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Hi All, I have no experience with vmware and was wondering if there is an equivalent application to allow a MS Windows or Linux machine to run OSX. I need this to be able to check what websites look like in Safari (Konqueror comes close, but there are differences). Is there such a thing? -- Regards, Mick pgpRnXeIlNF4m.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tuesday 3 July 2007 12:35, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have no experience with vmware and was wondering if there is an equivalent application to allow a MS Windows or Linux machine to run OSX. I need this to be able to check what websites look like in Safari (Konqueror comes close, but there are differences). Is there such a thing? Yes, there is pearpc (http://pearpc.sf.net), but since one of the developers died, development seems to have stalled. Anyway, last time I checked the current version was able to run OS X 10.3 (don't know about later versions). Since newer OS X versions can run on intel hardware, you might be able to run them in vmware, but I also could be completely wrong on this! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Hi Etaoin, Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 1:51:44 PM, you wrote: On Tuesday 3 July 2007 12:35, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have no experience with vmware and was wondering if there is an equivalent application to allow a MS Windows or Linux machine to run OSX. I need this to be able to check what websites look like in Safari (Konqueror comes close, but there are differences). Is there such a thing? Yes, there is pearpc (http://pearpc.sf.net), but since one of the developers died, development seems to have stalled. Anyway, last time I checked the current version was able to run OS X 10.3 (don't know about later versions). Since newer OS X versions can run on intel hardware, you might be able to run them in vmware, but I also could be completely wrong on this! VMware Server can help you. It worked for me some time ago. Also looks like you can use Virtual PC 2007. -- Sergey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Mick wrote: Is there such a thing? Yes, there is pearpc (http://pearpc.sf.net), but since one of the developers died, development seems to have stalled. Anyway, last time I checked the current version was able to run OS X 10.3 (don't know about later versions). Since newer OS X versions can run on intel hardware, you might be able to run them in vmware, but I also could be completely wrong on this! Also, you might be able to use qemu. Look here: http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi Remember that, according to apple eula, installing OSX inside a virtual machine might violate the license. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tuesday 3 July 2007 13:04, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 11:48, Sergey A. Kobzar wrote: VMware Server can help you. It worked for me some time ago. Also looks like you can use Virtual PC 2007. That implies the opposite of what I am trying to do, which is to run AppleMac OS apps in a virtual machine on my Gentoo or on a MS Windows PC. The pearpc that Etaoin is suggesting seems to be what I am after. Thanks! Why? vmware server runs under linux too, and if Sergey is right you can install vmware server under gentoo and then install OSX (x86 version) inside it. IIUC, that would be what you're looking for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Hi Mick, On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:35:57AM +0100, Mick wrote: I have no experience with vmware and was wondering if there is an equivalent application to allow a MS Windows or Linux machine to run OSX. You have several alternatives, one of which is to google for Mac OS X on a x86 - it is possible to install Mac OS X to a PC (and run it natively as on operating system in itself), though illegal. One of my fellow students did it and got most of his laptop's hardware to actually work. Pretty much everything you do to run Mac OS X on anything else than a Mac could violate the EULA... You can also try to download Safari's Windows Version and emulate it with WINE. I didn't try it so far but it could work and you also don't need to purchase a Mac OS X license. Regards, Aleks pgpaK93rlef2W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Hi Mick, Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 2:04:43 PM, you wrote: That implies the opposite of what I am trying to do, which is to run AppleMac OS apps in a virtual machine on my Gentoo or on a MS Windows PC. I did it :). One note - you need find ISO with Mac OS X installation in torrent. Not all images can be started in VMware. Mac OS has strong requirements to the hardware. BTW - we are out of mailing list subj :) The pearpc that Etaoin is suggesting seems to be what I am after. Thanks! -- Sergey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 11:48, Sergey A. Kobzar wrote: Hi Etaoin, Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 1:51:44 PM, you wrote: On Tuesday 3 July 2007 12:35, Mick wrote: Hi All, I have no experience with vmware and was wondering if there is an equivalent application to allow a MS Windows or Linux machine to run OSX. I need this to be able to check what websites look like in Safari (Konqueror comes close, but there are differences). Is there such a thing? Yes, there is pearpc (http://pearpc.sf.net), but since one of the developers died, development seems to have stalled. Anyway, last time I checked the current version was able to run OS X 10.3 (don't know about later versions). Since newer OS X versions can run on intel hardware, you might be able to run them in vmware, but I also could be completely wrong on this! VMware Server can help you. It worked for me some time ago. Also looks like you can use Virtual PC 2007. That implies the opposite of what I am trying to do, which is to run AppleMac OS apps in a virtual machine on my Gentoo or on a MS Windows PC. The pearpc that Etaoin is suggesting seems to be what I am after. Thanks! -- Regards, Mick pgpKRSGGw3JLJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 12:18, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Tuesday 3 July 2007 13:04, Mick wrote: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 11:48, Sergey A. Kobzar wrote: VMware Server can help you. It worked for me some time ago. Also looks like you can use Virtual PC 2007. That implies the opposite of what I am trying to do, which is to run AppleMac OS apps in a virtual machine on my Gentoo or on a MS Windows PC. The pearpc that Etaoin is suggesting seems to be what I am after. Thanks! Why? vmware server runs under linux too, and if Sergey is right you can install vmware server under gentoo and then install OSX (x86 version) inside it. IIUC, that would be what you're looking for. I had a look but couldn't find OSX under the OS that run within vmware . . . -- Regards, Mick pgpmzrQOFPL0y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 12:16, Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote: Hi Mick, On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 11:35:57AM +0100, Mick wrote: I have no experience with vmware and was wondering if there is an equivalent application to allow a MS Windows or Linux machine to run OSX. You have several alternatives, one of which is to google for Mac OS X on a x86 - it is possible to install Mac OS X to a PC (and run it natively as on operating system in itself), though illegal. One of my fellow students did it and got most of his laptop's hardware to actually work. Pretty much everything you do to run Mac OS X on anything else than a Mac could violate the EULA... You can also try to download Safari's Windows Version and emulate it with WINE. I didn't try it so far but it could work and you also don't need to purchase a Mac OS X license. Of course! (slaps forehead) As long as the MS Windows Safari behaves like the AppleMac Safari, WINE will probably do the trick (assuming it installs and runs). Will give it a go. Thanks! -- Regards, Mick pgpq66zUbSGRG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tuesday 3 July 2007 13:40, Mick wrote: Why? vmware server runs under linux too, and if Sergey is right you can install vmware server under gentoo and then install OSX (x86 version) inside it. IIUC, that would be what you're looking for. I had a look but couldn't find OSX under the OS that run within vmware Of course, they can't neither officially support it nor mention it, since installing OSX inside anything different from apple hardware violates the EULA. But a quick google search for osx vmware yelds many results. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Mick wrote: I had a look but couldn't find OSX under the OS that run within vmware . . It's not supported, but it runs. Just pick FreeBSD and you're done. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
Hi Norberto, Tuesday, July 3, 2007, 3:01:15 PM, you wrote: Mick wrote: I had a look but couldn't find OSX under the OS that run within vmware . . It's not supported, but it runs. Just pick FreeBSD and you're done. http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to http://www.google.com/search?hl=ruclient=operarls=enhs=E4gq=Mac+OS+VMwarebtnG=%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%B8%D1%81%D0%BAlr= ;) -- Sergey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Monitor recognition at boot time
Hello folks, I was wondering whether some of you could have any ideas about how to identify a certain monitor plugged into my card's secondary output at boot time (before X starts) automatically. The situation is the following: I have a laptop (Samsung R65) with an nVdidia GeForce Go 7400 in it. I like dual head setups and I have one at home and two at work, one of which is dedicated to the laptop. The problem is however, that at work the external CRT is _left of_ my laptop, and at home the external (DFP) is _right of_ my laptop. So I would love to be able to manipulate xorg.conf with a script at boot time. It would just be very - convenient ;-). But to do this I would have to aquire information about the monitor [1]. Is there any way to get the EDID or something similar out of the nvidia module or any other program /before/ starting X? Thanks in advance, Aleks ad 1: I could also misuse information about the network connection or the like but then again, I don't always plug in/need the second monitor... pgpitY1CBXXyF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble Getting Wireless Networking Configured -- SOLVED
On 6/27/2007 7:45 AM Drew Tomlinson said the following: On 6/27/2007 1:12 AM Alan McKinnon said the following: On Wednesday 27 June 2007, Randy Barlow wrote: Drew Tomlinson wrote: I ran tcpdump on eth1 and no packets are leaving the interface. Thus I assume that's why I'm not getting an address. I don't know how to solve your problem, but I don't think DHCP is at the TCP layer of your network, and so you shouldn't see packets for DHCP there. DHCP is a special protocol if I recall... That's correct, dhcp is an ethernet protocol, and tcp/ip are one layer above it. Drew should be able to see the packets with the 'proto ether' expression. man tcpdump for more info alan Thank you both for your ideas. I've tested and it seems that I should be able to see the packets without any special expressions. I've run tcpdump on my DHCP server and can see packets from other nodes on my network: Client IP: bigdaddy Client Ethernet Address: 00:50:8d:d7:8d:89 (oui Unknown) [|bootp] 15:39:48.229850 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 128, id 25950, offset 0, flags [none], proto: UDP (17), length: 328) bigdaddy.bootpc 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 00:50:8d:d7:8d:89 (oui Unknown), length: 300, xid:0x7707a3b2, secs:768, flags: [none] When I run 'tcpdump -i eth1' on the laptop, I see no traffic whatsoever. I read the man page for tcpdump regarding the 'proto ether' expression Alan mentions. While it is true that this expression will limit the traffic captured, not specifying any expression will show all traffic. Plus DHCP works by sending UDP packets and thus 'proto ether' does not seem to be appropriate. Thanks, Drew For the archives... Ditching wpa_supplicant in favor of iwconfig (wireless tools port) solved my problems. Only downside is that I am unable to use WPA-PSK authentication. Maybe a future version of wpa_supplicant will work? Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
I have a laptop with ATI integrated graphics. lspci shows the graphics card as: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] I have been unsuccessful in getting X configured to work with this card with dri enabled. I followed the guides at: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/dri-howto.xml and I've also Googled for a week with no success. With the x11 drivers installed, I get this error message when starting X: (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I've emerged ati-drivers and set make.conf to include the fglrx driver as suggested in the ATI guide. However when loading the fglrx.ko module, I get an error about ...taints the kernel. Thus I suspect I have some option set in my kernel that conflicts with the fglrx module? I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Trouble Getting Wireless Networking Configured -- SOLVED
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 06:08:17 -0700, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: For the archives... Ditching wpa_supplicant in favor of iwconfig (wireless tools port) solved my problems. Only downside is that I am unable to use WPA-PSK authentication. Maybe a future version of wpa_supplicant will work? Unlikely. ;-) I've used it a couple times and it always strikes me as much less stable than wireless-tools, even when authenticating to non-WEP networks. It would routinely fail to associate, even when wireless-tools worked effortlessly. I'd love to run WPA, just because it's better, but I'm unwilling to put up with wpa_supplicant. My two cents, Thomas Tuttle -- Thomas Tuttle - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ttuttle.net/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppleMac in a Virtual Machine?
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 12:42:43PM +0100, Mick wrote: Of course! (slaps forehead) As long as the MS Windows Safari behaves like the AppleMac Safari, WINE will probably do the trick (assuming it installs and runs). Will give it a go. Thanks! I don't really know - back then when M$ still supported their IE for Mac, IE for Mac would behave differently than IE for Win at least in some situations. That said, I _do_ believe Apple programmers still do their job a lot better than Microsoft so you should at least get a very good impression of what your page would look like on a Mac. Regards, Aleks pgp3LYJ7HQ2mB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
Drew Tomlinson wrote: I've emerged ati-drivers and set make.conf to include the fglrx driver as suggested in the ATI guide. However when loading the fglrx.ko module, I get an error about ...taints the kernel. Thus I suspect I have some option set in my kernel that conflicts with the fglrx module? It's not an error - just some wise guy's reference to the fact that you are using a closed-source driver with the open-source kernel. Sounds like it is loading perfectly fine. :) Be lucky, Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? -James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On Tuesday 03 July 2007, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP': [W]hen loading the fglrx.ko module, I get an error about ...taints the kernel. Thus I suspect I have some option set in my kernel that conflicts with the fglrx module? No that just means that the binary you are running (kernel + modules) is not Free Software or, in this case, distributable at all. See http://www.kroah.com/log/images/ols_2006_keynote_12.jpg , part of http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html which is full of high level information about the kernel. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Monitor recognition at boot time
Aleksandar L. Dimitrov wrote: The problem is however, that at work the external CRT is _left of_ my laptop, and at home the external (DFP) is _right of_ my laptop. So I would love to be able to manipulate xorg.conf with a script at boot time. What I do is maintain two xorg.conf files: xorg.conf.home xorg.conf.work. Then I do not start X during startup. Instead I log into the console and run one of two scripts: x-home or x-work, which simply copies the corresponding xorg.conf.* file to xorg.conf then starts xdm. HTH, Roy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On 7/3/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant Hi Grant, I think Gentoo is 'healthy', in the sense that it continues to thrive. On the other hand I have, over the last 6-9 months started to think of Gentoo as 'mature'. The distro has apparently become what it is going to be. While that may not be all I hoped for it is clearly worth while and a contributing member of the group of Linux distros so that's great. As a non-developer, general work-a-day Linux user I do feel that Gentoo has lost some of its energy. Maybe that's all part of becoming a mature distro. When I first started with Gentoo in (I think 2000) this was a very lively place and it was clear that there was a real push on to grow the tools, grow the distro, grow the user base. While I think that today those metrics would still be considered valuable, it is not my view that there is a lot of energy being put into taking things to the next level. (Whatever the heck that might be!) Anyway, I value Gentoo greatly. It's been a really great distro to me. Folks have treated a non-IT Linux dummy like me with great respect and for the most part a pretty gentle hand. I've learned a lot when I wanted to. The documentation, in my mind, is second to none which makes my life easier. (Sometimes) What's in Gentoo's future? I haven't a clue. I have wondered a few times in the last year if I'd have to look for another distro one of these days.but I never have. Two to three years ago that thought never entered my mind. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant Hi Grant, I think Gentoo is 'healthy', in the sense that it continues to thrive. On the other hand I have, over the last 6-9 months started to think of Gentoo as 'mature'. The distro has apparently become what it is going to be. While that may not be all I hoped for it is clearly worth while and a contributing member of the group of Linux distros so that's great. As a non-developer, general work-a-day Linux user I do feel that Gentoo has lost some of its energy. Maybe that's all part of becoming a mature distro. When I first started with Gentoo in (I think 2000) this was a very lively place and it was clear that there was a real push on to grow the tools, grow the distro, grow the user base. While I think that today those metrics would still be considered valuable, it is not my view that there is a lot of energy being put into taking things to the next level. (Whatever the heck that might be!) Anyway, I value Gentoo greatly. It's been a really great distro to me. Folks have treated a non-IT Linux dummy like me with great respect and for the most part a pretty gentle hand. I've learned a lot when I wanted to. The documentation, in my mind, is second to none which makes my life easier. (Sometimes) What's in Gentoo's future? I haven't a clue. I have wondered a few times in the last year if I'd have to look for another distro one of these days.but I never have. Two to three years ago that thought never entered my mind. Hey Mark, Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other meta-distro out there? It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? The thought of installing the latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated makes me wanna throw up. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On 7/3/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SNIP Hey Mark, Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other meta-distro out there? It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? The thought of installing the latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated makes me wanna throw up. - Grant Being sort of pragmatic, if it happens it happens and I'll worry about it then. While I may have my frustrations with Gentoo they are certainly no where near large enough to cause me to even think of switching 8 machines in 2 households to something else. Heck, it's the devil you know for the devil you don't know when you go that way and I still see Gentoo as an angel and not a devil!!! :-) Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:14, Grant wrote: Hey Mark, Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other meta-distro out there? It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? The thought of installing the latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated makes me wanna throw up. - Grant I hope I'm not too of-topic. I've never been able to bring friends to try out Gentoo. Tell them they'll be working for days to get a cli distro working... if they get there, setting up X is sure to be the end of the experiment. What I mean is: Gentoo is for experimented users, and those who'd like to become experimented. I consider myself not to be a noob anymore, after 8 years of using Linux, but my last gentoo install still waits to get finished. I tried to get sound, and that crashed the nvidia module, and now I don't have time to cure that. Now, on the next partition, I have installed Sabayon. It's bloated OK, it's not compiled for my machine OK, but I had it up and running in an hour. I still have to test the idea of installing Sabayon, modifying make.conf and emerging world to see what happens. I think the future of Gentoo could be that: an easy install for the mass, and he opportunity for the geeks to tweak that install or directly go for the total customisation. I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if the real Gentoo users feel it's a treason. Thierry -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] PPTP connection to Windows server 2003 vpn
I've been following the guide at: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_PPTP_VPN_client_%28Microsoft-compatible_with_mppe%29 Trying to get my vpn to work going from my linux laptop. That would really make the boss jealous! Anyhow, when i run my ifconfing ppp0, after doing /etc/init.d/net.ppp0 start, it looks like this: ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol POINTOPOINT NOARP MULTICAST MTU:1400 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:3 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) I see no inet entries like i think i should, and if i do: route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev ppp0 is says the interface doesn't exist!! What am I doing wrong here? I'd be glad to talk to someone on IRC (I'm karleeto 24/7) and in a return email. Thanks in advance for the help! -- Karl Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://karlhaines.com/ cell: (615)686-5043 --- Franklin Computer Head Technician Network Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.franklincomputer.net/ work: (615)599-6714 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
Hello Grant, In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. What decline in the number of users? Where are there figures demonstrating this? There also seem to be a lot more new developer announcements than resignations, so it would appear that the number of devs is increasing. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 38: Government organization signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:41:34 +0200 Thierry de Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if the real Gentoo users feel it's a treason. Thierry It is nothing of that kind. These, simply, is not the Sabayon list, but the Gentoo one. No matter if Sabayon forked from Gentoo, it is a different distro, like Mandrake or Debian, so, it is not usually a topic for these lists. The Sabayon list is this: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/sabayon-list Sabayon has many differences with Gentoo, starting with the kernel and the toolchain. Two core pieces, overall, in a source based meta distro. -- Jesús Guerrero [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Bugday is approaching!
Hi, Don't forget that next Saturday is the first Saturday of the month, which means it's Bugday! For those of you who don't know, Bugday is a great opportunity for users to start fixing bugs, as well as testing bugfixes submitted by other users (and getting/giving help in the process). Feel free to join in by joining #gentoo-bugs on irc.freenode.net More information can be found at the following links: http://bugday.gentoo.org/ http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/bugday/index.xml Thanks, welp signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Grant wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. no. gentoo was for a while the exciting new kid. And everybody flocked to it. Especially 'ricers'. The 'decline' you observed is more of a pruning - the type of users who always use the latest 'distri of the month' are gone, also the users who really do not fit in but used gentoo because it was cool for a while. Every distro has that moment - ubuntu will suffer from that too. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. that is a completly different problem ;) Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? hm, couple of new devs in the last two weeks. What was your question? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. why should a beginner WANT to use gentoo? To get his hands dirty without being forced to, he can start with a much more 'beginner friendly' distro. There is no reason nor need to dumb down gentoo to fit everybody. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. no. It really does not. The opposite is true. Gentoo does not need to become another dumb 'userfriendly' distro - there are hundreds of them already. It does not need the 'I don't want to learn anything' or 'I don't read documentation' type of user. It does not need the standard-ubuntu-dau that askeds the same stupid (stupid because it is explained in a sticky topic on top of the forum) question again and again and again, because he is too lazy to read an existing thread or use the search feature (look into the nvnews forum for an example). Gentoo needs users who want to use gentoo for its technical merits, not because it is is 'cool'. We lost the 'cool distro of the month' users and it was a good thing. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. There are users and users. There are users who try to help in mailing lists and forums and file bugs. There are users who help fellow gentoo users among their friends. And there are the ones who do nothing at all -except complaining if something does not work (even if it is their own fault). Gentoo needs the first kind of users - and I would go so far to say, that it got them. Gentoo does NOT need the second kind - and we lost a lot of them. I call that win-win. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
· Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant Hi Grant, I think Gentoo is 'healthy', in the sense that it continues to thrive. On the other hand I have, over the last 6-9 months started to think of Gentoo as 'mature'. The distro has apparently become what it is going to be. While that may not be all I hoped for it is clearly worth while and a contributing member of the group of Linux distros so that's great. As a non-developer, general work-a-day Linux user I do feel that Gentoo has lost some of its energy. Maybe that's all part of becoming a mature distro. When I first started with Gentoo in (I think 2000) this was a very lively place and it was clear that there was a real push on to grow the tools, grow the distro, grow the user base. While I think that today those metrics would still be considered valuable, it is not my view that there is a lot of energy being put into taking things to the next level. (Whatever the heck that might be!) Anyway, I value Gentoo greatly. It's been a really great distro to me. Folks have treated a non-IT Linux dummy like me with great respect and for the most part a pretty gentle hand. I've learned a lot when I wanted to. The documentation, in my mind, is second to none which makes my life easier. (Sometimes) What's in Gentoo's future? I haven't a clue. I have wondered a few times in the last year if I'd have to look for another distro one of these days.but I never have. Two to three years ago that thought never entered my mind. Hey Mark, Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other meta-distro out there? No, Debian is no meta-distro. It's a distribution just like Fedora Core or Mandriva. The only thing that sets Debian apart is, that it's a truely non-commercial distribution and that it is quite big. Another Debian specialty is, that it has a mission, so to speak. It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? No, I don't think so. It's just not something which is completely main stream compatible. And I don't think that this is bad ;) The thought of installing the latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated makes me wanna throw up. Yep. Alexander Skwar -- Your step will soil many countries. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:07:24 -0700 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant As an experience Windows programmer who was moving into Linux last summer I started off with Ubuntu. The ease with which it installed and updated itself was a big surprise and pleasure. But then as my knowledge grew I decided to use a more demanding distro which in my case would allow me to learn more about how a Linux system works; and so I chose gentoo. Sure there was a hurdle of a couple of days to get it installed but I have not come up against any problems apart from my own lack of experience. All in all the choice was a good one. Gentoo appears to be very stable and the e-builds seem to be quite up to date - although I have to use the ~amd64 keyword on most packages as x64 support lags behind x86. One problem I have however is knowing how to choose between all the different ways of doing things. I recently tried to get the interface to my Kodak camera working and went down several blind alleys before discovering that each actual alley was no longer the best ways of doing things due to changes in the kernel or new tools. So sure on the surface things do not appear to be changing much in gentoo but that does not mean it does not work - just that it is stable. Paul -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
Grant wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant The startup I work for was bought last Oct. I spent four months migrating to Redhat ES 4.0 as well as dealing with some odd internal software decisions at the new company. Six months later the whole system still doesn't run as well or give me the flexibility I had with Gentoo. On top of that I get to deal with a poorly implemented, thought out, and extremely frustrating home grown package management tool that wishes it was one tenth as powerful as portage. Hell most days I'd rather have straight up RPM over the internal tools. And for anyone that thinks Fortune 1000 companies back port fixes of their PHP 5.1 package because their chosen distro doesn't include it (or ninety other packages we use) or test better than unknown thousands of Gentoo users running ~x86, let me disabuse you of that notion right now. The grass always looks greener on the other side and in regards to Gentoo, it ain't. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] After power failure, SATA hd not recognized a bunch of times: do I have to worry?
Hi, Today, while I was at work, there had been a power failure. My Gentoo box was on when it happened. I found the box was not off, but it had tried to reboot. But it showed no Linux login prompt; instead, BIOS told me that wanted a floppy disk... I rebooted a bunch of times, and everytime it behaved like there were no more hard disks. It looked for a bootsector in the CD/DVD drives and in the floppy drive, but behaved like the SATA HD did not exist. I tried to boot a Knoppix and its fstab showed no trace of an hard disk. Even more strange, at startup it I was quite terrified, but after a couple more reboots it got the hd again, apparently flawlessly... and now I'm here writing to you from the box. What I want to know is: is it a common glitch in case of power failures or it is the symptom of something that is going very wrong? And how can I know if it's the second? (I have smartctl, but I'm not very smart at using it). Thanks, m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] After power failure, SATA hd not recognized a bunch of times: do I have to worry?
Sorry, I sent the mail too early. Two corrections: b.n. ha scritto: Hi, Today, while I was at work, there had been a power failure. My Gentoo box was on when it happened. I was at work, but the box is at home, so I have no idea of what really happened. I rebooted a bunch of times, and everytime it behaved like there were no more hard disks. It looked for a bootsector in the CD/DVD drives and in the floppy drive, but behaved like the SATA HD did not exist. I tried to boot a Knoppix and its fstab showed no trace of an hard disk. Even more strange, at startup it ...seemed active, because the red LED blinked sometimes. No strange noises etc. whatsoever. Thanks again, m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re[2]: [gentoo-user] [OT] After power failure, SATA hd not recognized a bunch of times: do I have to worry?
Hi b.n., Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 2:08:56 AM, you wrote: Sorry, I sent the mail too early. Two corrections: b.n. ha scritto: Hi, Today, while I was at work, there had been a power failure. My Gentoo box was on when it happened. I was at work, but the box is at home, so I have no idea of what really happened. I rebooted a bunch of times, and everytime it behaved like there were no more hard disks. It looked for a bootsector in the CD/DVD drives and in the floppy drive, but behaved like the SATA HD did not exist. I tried to boot a Knoppix and its fstab showed no trace of an hard disk. Even more strange, at startup it ...seemed active, because the red LED blinked sometimes. No strange noises etc. whatsoever. Thanks again, m. Anyway I recommend you check S.M.A.R.T. attributes and FS consistency. -- Sergey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] After power failure, SATA hd not recognized a bunch of times: do I have to worry?
b.n. wrote: Sorry, I sent the mail too early. Two corrections: b.n. ha scritto: Hi, Today, while I was at work, there had been a power failure. My Gentoo box was on when it happened. I was at work, but the box is at home, so I have no idea of what really happened. I rebooted a bunch of times, and everytime it behaved like there were no more hard disks. It looked for a bootsector in the CD/DVD drives and in the floppy drive, but behaved like the SATA HD did not exist. I tried to boot a Knoppix and its fstab showed no trace of an hard disk. Even more strange, at startup it ...seemed active, because the red LED blinked sometimes. No strange noises etc. whatsoever. Thanks again, m. I wonder if it reset your BIOS. --Joshua Doll -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] After power failure, SATA hd not recognized a bunch of times: do I have to worry?
Joshua Doll ha scritto: I wonder if it reset your BIOS. I must say that the hd was again recognized just after I had accessed the BIOS control center to understand what happened. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:41:34 +0200, Thierry de Coulon wrote: I think the future of Gentoo could be that: an easy install for the mass, and he opportunity for the geeks to tweak that install or directly go for the total customisation. Then the install process wouldn't screen out users. -Thufir -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Index to /usr/share/doc/...html... a reinvented wheel?
I emerge with the doc USE flag and generally have a bunch of stuff in /usr/share/doc. Most of the time it's the HTML stuff I want to read, but it's a annoyingly laborious to wade through unindexed directgories and get a browser pointing to the right thing. So I wrote a little Perl script to create a top-level index.html, organized by package and with a bit of rudimentary pruning. I bookmarked it in Firefox, and can get to things a lot faster now. I like the result, and will continue to tweak it here and there. Did I just reinvent a wheel? If not, is there any point it trying to make this part of gentoo? If so, how would one do that? Current script attached. -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD makeindex.perl Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:41:34 Thierry de Coulon wrote: I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if the real Gentoo users feel it's a treason. Not treason. Just inferior, leechers and off-topic... -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:14, Grant wrote: Hey Mark, Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other meta-distro out there? It's not exactly thriving is it? Is the meta-distro concept perhaps flawed? The thought of installing the latest Ubuntu release, wading through a bunch of software I'll never use, and waiting for the next big release before anything is updated makes me wanna throw up. - Grant I hope I'm not too of-topic. I've never been able to bring friends to try out Gentoo. Tell them they'll be working for days to get a cli distro working... if they get there, setting up X is sure to be the end of the experiment. What I mean is: Gentoo is for experimented users, and those who'd like to become experimented. I consider myself not to be a noob anymore, after 8 years of using Linux, but my last gentoo install still waits to get finished. I tried to get sound, and that crashed the nvidia module, and now I don't have time to cure that. Now, on the next partition, I have installed Sabayon. It's bloated OK, it's not compiled for my machine OK, but I had it up and running in an hour. I still have to test the idea of installing Sabayon, modifying make.conf and emerging world to see what happens. I think the future of Gentoo could be that: an easy install for the mass, and he opportunity for the geeks to tweak that install or directly go for the total customisation. I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if the real Gentoo users feel it's a treason. no, not treason. Leeches. For using gentoo's rsync-mirrors. But you said it yourself, it is bloated. I do not want bloat. And for your friends - the last two releases have a gnome (argh!) livecd with a (buggy) graphical installer... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail
As I want the latest and greatest version of claws-mail in /etc/portage/package.keywords I have: mail-client/claws-mail In directory /usr/portage/mail-client/claws-mail there are 3 ebuilds: claws-mail-2.9.1.ebuild claws-mail-2.9.2.ebuild claws-mail-2.10.0_rc1.ebuild Their KEYWORDS lines are, respectively: KEYWORDS=alpha amd64 hppa ppc ppc64 sparc x86 ~x86-fbsd KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~hppa ~ppc ~ppc64 ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd emerge -pv claws-mail outputs: These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies . . done! [ebuild R ] mail-client/claws-mail-2.9.2 USE=bogofilter crypt dillo doc gnome spell ssl -clamav -imap -ipv6 -kde -ldap -pda -spamassassin -startup-notification -xface 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ??? Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On 7/3/2007 9:36 AM James Ausmus said the following: On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Thank you for your posts. OK, I tried starting over again as when I wrote the above post, I wasn't trying to use the ati-driver. So I emerged ati-driver. However, when attempting to load the fglrx I get an Operation not permitted error (I remember this now). I am logged on as root. Please see this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 190528 0 arc42368 0 ecb 3328 0 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 0 pcmcia 32344 0 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ieee80211_crypt 5504 1 ieee80211_crypt_wep i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted So, I am confused. What exactly should VIDEO_CARDS= setting be in /etc/make.conf? =radeon? =fglrx? =radeon fglrx? I think I need to be sure I have everything set right, be sure to un-emerge any conflicting ports, and then re-emerge the proper ports. Can someone please point out the steps? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] selecting boot(active?) partition
Hello, I have real problem :-( On my laptop I have Gentoo and windows. At work I use windows at home Gentoo. Now is the time to reinstall windows from the recovery partition which is at end of the disk. I'm booting with GRUB which is in MBR. So, in GRUB I have record for boot from recovery, but the recovery boot ends with blue screen. I think the problem is that at the disk there are non dos/wondows partitions and thus the recovery boot ends. And my problem is that I'm not able to setup the recovery partition as bootable(active) and remove all other partitions. I've used the fdisk, but it's not enough. Could someone suggest a tool, which can help me to select bootable partition? Thanks a lot !!! Pat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 David Relson wrote: Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ??? try emerge -upv claws-mail If you omit -u (means --upgrade), you will re-emerge currently installed version. - -- Arturo Buanzo Busleiman - Consultor Independiente en Seguridad Informatica ¿Su empresa consume demasiado ancho de banda? ¡Consulteme! Free (as in Freedom) Punk Rock from Argentina: http://www.futurabanda.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQFGiuVHAlpOsGhXcE0RCrUfAKCDVnsFZrs1a0F8Ndf09nm1pNhrFACWLwv/ Qsrrb+dlq32rk4cE0yFzhA== =lTK3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 07:55:40 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 9:36 AM James Ausmus said the following: On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Thank you for your posts. OK, I tried starting over again as when I wrote the above post, I wasn't trying to use the ati-driver. So I emerged ati-driver. However, when attempting to load the fglrx I get an Operation not permitted error (I remember this now). I am logged on as root. Please see this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 190528 0 arc42368 0 ecb 3328 0 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 0 pcmcia 32344 0 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ieee80211_crypt 5504 1 ieee80211_crypt_wep i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Question: Is this a custom kernel build? If so, did you enable --- enable loadable module suppot -- module versioning support or -- source checksum for all modules If so, turn them both off and rebuild the kernel and try to load the fglrx module again... What happens is, your closed source, binary, module does not have the correct credentials for it to be installed... Thus the operation not permitted complaint... -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:48:01 -0400 David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ??? Because it is hard-masked in package.mask ;-) If you really want it you can unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On 7/3/2007 5:19 PM Jerry McBride said the following: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 07:55:40 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 9:36 AM James Ausmus said the following: On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Thank you for your posts. OK, I tried starting over again as when I wrote the above post, I wasn't trying to use the ati-driver. So I emerged ati-driver. However, when attempting to load the fglrx I get an Operation not permitted error (I remember this now). I am logged on as root. Please see this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 190528 0 arc42368 0 ecb 3328 0 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 0 pcmcia 32344 0 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ieee80211_crypt 5504 1 ieee80211_crypt_wep i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Question: Is this a custom kernel build? If so, did you enable Yes. --- enable loadable module suppot -- module versioning support or -- source checksum for all modules I have these options: [*] Enable loadable module support [*] Module unloading [*] Forced module unloading [ ] Module versioning support (NEW) [ ] Source checksum for all modules (NEW) [*] Automatic kernel module loading If so, turn them both off and rebuild the kernel and try to load the fglrx module again... What happens is, your closed source, binary, module does not have the correct credentials for it to be installed... Thus the operation not permitted complaint... I just rebuilt the kernel again to be sure I really built it with those options. There was no change. See this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by arc42368 2 ecb 3328 2 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 1 ndiswrapper 190528 0 pcmcia 32344 0 bcm43xx 423008 0 ieee80211softmac 29248 1 bcm43xx ieee80211 29448 2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac ieee80211_crypt 5504 2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Any other ideas? Thanks for your help. Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] selecting boot(active?) partition
pat wrote: I've used the fdisk, but it's not enough. Could someone suggest a tool, which can help me to select bootable partition? I'm not clear on this - did you type 'a' and select the recovery partition to make it bootable? And did you set up grub to boot from that partition? You probably need to use the chainloader command and such... -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. Once you were not a people, but now you are God's people; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy. ~1 Peter 2:9-10 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 08:58:39 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 5:19 PM Jerry McBride said the following: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 07:55:40 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 9:36 AM James Ausmus said the following: On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Thank you for your posts. OK, I tried starting over again as when I wrote the above post, I wasn't trying to use the ati-driver. So I emerged ati-driver. However, when attempting to load the fglrx I get an Operation not permitted error (I remember this now). I am logged on as root. Please see this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 190528 0 arc42368 0 ecb 3328 0 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 0 pcmcia 32344 0 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ieee80211_crypt 5504 1 ieee80211_crypt_wep i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Question: Is this a custom kernel build? If so, did you enable Yes. --- enable loadable module suppot -- module versioning support or -- source checksum for all modules I have these options: [*] Enable loadable module support [*] Module unloading [*] Forced module unloading [ ] Module versioning support (NEW) [ ] Source checksum for all modules (NEW) [*] Automatic kernel module loading If so, turn them both off and rebuild the kernel and try to load the fglrx module again... What happens is, your closed source, binary, module does not have the correct credentials for it to be installed... Thus the operation not permitted complaint... I just rebuilt the kernel again to be sure I really built it with those options. There was no change. See this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by arc42368 2 ecb 3328 2 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 1 ndiswrapper 190528 0 pcmcia 32344 0 bcm43xx 423008 0 ieee80211softmac 29248 1 bcm43xx ieee80211 29448 2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac ieee80211_crypt 5504 2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Any other ideas? Thanks for your help. Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com The only thing to consider then is that your hardware is not supported by that driver... -- From the Desk of: Jerome D. McBride -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] selecting boot(active?) partition
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] After power failure, SATA hd not recognized a bunch of times: do I have to worry?
b.n. wrote: I found the box was not off, but it had tried to reboot. But it showed no Linux login prompt; instead, BIOS told me that wanted a floppy disk... Let me guess.. Intel ICHsomething? I've found that my MSI P965 wouldn't recognize my Maxtor 300GB SATAII HD after a power failure. I was quite terrified, but after a couple more reboots it got the hd again, apparently flawlessly... Exactly the same symptoms. Have you power it down completely, switching the PSU off for a few seconds? Regards, Norberto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] usb-storage detected but drive not assigned
Hi group, I can't mount a usb music stick with a fat fs because a drive letter eg /dev/sda has not been assigned. Here's dmesg: snip usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Initializing USB Mass Storage driver... scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 2 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage USB Mass Storage support registered. scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB FLASH DISK V2.0 2120 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 usb-storage: device scan complete usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2 usb 1-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3 usb 1-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice scsi1 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices usb-storage: device found at 3 usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning scsi 1:0:0:0: Direct-Access USB FLASH DISK V2.0 2120 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 usb-storage: device scan complete And $cat /proc/partitions only lists the two hard-drives. The device works OK in another gentoo unit with the same kernel config and modules as far as usb is concerned. I did #mknod /dev/sda b 8 0 and tried to mount it there and then tried /dev/sda1 but got /dev/sda not a valid block device and /dev/sda1 does not exist respectively. Yes, the fat and vfat modules are inserted. Maxim Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On 7/3/2007 6:36 PM Jerry McBride said the following: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 08:58:39 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 5:19 PM Jerry McBride said the following: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 07:55:40 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 9:36 AM James Ausmus said the following: On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Thank you for your posts. OK, I tried starting over again as when I wrote the above post, I wasn't trying to use the ati-driver. So I emerged ati-driver. However, when attempting to load the fglrx I get an Operation not permitted error (I remember this now). I am logged on as root. Please see this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 190528 0 arc42368 0 ecb 3328 0 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 0 pcmcia 32344 0 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ieee80211_crypt 5504 1 ieee80211_crypt_wep i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Question: Is this a custom kernel build? If so, did you enable Yes. --- enable loadable module suppot -- module versioning support or -- source checksum for all modules I have these options: [*] Enable loadable module support [*] Module unloading [*] Forced module unloading [ ] Module versioning support (NEW) [ ] Source checksum for all modules (NEW) [*] Automatic kernel module loading If so, turn them both off and rebuild the kernel and try to load the fglrx module again... What happens is, your closed source, binary, module does not have the correct credentials for it to be installed... Thus the operation not permitted complaint... I just rebuilt the kernel again to be sure I really built it with those options. There was no change. See this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by arc42368 2 ecb 3328 2 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 1 ndiswrapper 190528 0 pcmcia 32344 0 bcm43xx 423008 0 ieee80211softmac 29248 1 bcm43xx ieee80211 29448 2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac ieee80211_crypt 5504 2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Any other ideas? Thanks for your help. Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com The only thing to consider then is that your hardware is not supported by that driver... That may be true. I have been unable to confirm or deny that. Anyone else? Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
The only thing to consider then is that your hardware is not supported by that driver... That may be true. I have been unable to confirm or deny that. Anyone else? Thanks, Drew See if Michael can help you at the Phoronix forums: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/index.php He has been good at helping me with corner case issue on ATI drivers. Good luck, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo Healthy? (The Return)
I think gentoo is stuck with the release of new tools, new ideas.. I've been worried about the Weekly Newsletter too, but you only have to read planet.gentoo.org to see that the wheel stills moving on, and stills healthy. I think there's a lot more gentoo for the years to come. On 7/3/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the remaining Gentoo users in a negative way. Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly Newsletter hasn't been published in almost two months. Is Gentoo destined to be just another distro starved for contributors and struggling to stay up to date? If so, I really misjudged it. The meta approach of Gentoo is superior to any other in my mind, and I think it's growth and potential are being stunted by the we don't need them attitude which perpetuates Gentoo's lack of usability features for beginners. Gentoo needs as many users as possible to reach its potential. It's a short-sighted mistake to think that non-contributing users do Gentoo no good. Non-contributing users become contributors as time passes. Car mechanics all start as car drivers. - Grant -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Lost KDE
I have been using KDE for a long long time. Suddenly it's not there any more. I logged out thinking everything was okay, and now I have to use a fluxbox session, because anything else just sends me back to (what I think is) kdm. Anyway it's got a blue background and a KDE logo. Here's a synopsis (fgrep Started\ncompleted) of the emerges I did in the last couple of days. 1183486760: Started emerge on: Jul 03, 2007 11:19:20 1183486842: ::: completed emerge (1 of 1) sys-apps/portage-2.1.2.9 to / 1183487774: Started emerge on: Jul 03, 2007 11:36:14 1183488024: ::: completed emerge (1 of 22) sys-libs/timezone-data-2007f to / 1183488193: ::: completed emerge (2 of 22) dev-libs/pth-2.0.7 to / 1183489113: ::: completed emerge (3 of 22) sys-libs/ncurses-5.6-r1 to / 1183489200: ::: completed emerge (4 of 22) app-editors/nano-2.0.6 to / 1183489358: ::: completed emerge (5 of 22) sys-libs/readline-5.2_p4 to / 1183489390: ::: completed emerge (6 of 22) dev-perl/IO-Socket-SSL-1.06 to / 1183489600: ::: completed emerge (7 of 22) sys-devel/libtool-1.5.23b to / 1183489670: ::: completed emerge (8 of 22) dev-perl/DBI-1.56 to / 1183489741: ::: completed emerge (9 of 22) sys-process/psmisc-22.5 to / 1183489943: ::: completed emerge (10 of 22) app-text/iso-codes-0.58 to / 1183492488: Started emerge on: Jul 03, 2007 12:54:48 ... oops had to manually download the JDK binary. 1183493412: Started emerge on: Jul 03, 2007 13:10:12 1183493813: ::: completed emerge (1 of 12) dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.15 to / 1183499330: ::: completed emerge (2 of 12) sys-libs/glibc-2.5-r4 to / 1183499716: ::: completed emerge (3 of 12) sys-apps/shadow-4.0.18.1-r1 to / 1183499736: ::: completed emerge (4 of 12) kde-base/kdebase-pam-7 to / 1183500030: ::: completed emerge (5 of 12) dev-libs/elfutils-0.127 to / 1183500134: ::: completed emerge (6 of 12) dev-libs/boehm-gc-6.8 to / 1183503914: ::: completed emerge (7 of 12) dev-db/unixODBC-2.2.12 to / 1183504065: ::: completed emerge (8 of 12) x11-libs/libsexy-0.1.10 to / 1183504272: ::: completed emerge (9 of 12) x11-libs/libwnck-2.16.3 to / 1183504390: ::: completed emerge (10 of 12) x11-misc/notification- daemon-0.3.6-r1 to / 1183504517: ::: completed emerge (11 of 12) x11-libs/libnotify-0.4.3 to / 1183504672: ::: completed emerge (12 of 12) gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.6 to / I suppose there might be something going on with kdebase-pam (4 of 12), but I don't really know how to tell, or what to do at this point to get it back. ++ kevin -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:09:43 -0300 Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 David Relson wrote: Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ??? try emerge -upv claws-mail If you omit -u (means --upgrade), you will re-emerge currently installed version. Here's the result of emerge -upv claws-mail These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies . . done! Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB Unfortunately it didn't help :- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge claws-mail
On Wed, 4 Jul 2007 02:48:46 +0200 Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:48:01 -0400 David Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is emerge giving me 2.9.2 rather than the newer 2.10.0_rc1 ??? Because it is hard-masked in package.mask ;-) If you really want it you can unmask it in /etc/portage/package.unmask Cheers, Renat At present, /etc/portage only has package.keywords. As package.mask is not present, it's not hard masked. Unmasking it in package.unmask does the trick. I guess I had package.keywords and package.unmask confused. 'Tis time to re-read the man pages. Thanks! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Index to /usr/share/doc/...html... a reinvented wheel?
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 00:19:14 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Did I just reinvent a wheel? If not, is there any point it trying to make this part of gentoo? If so, how would one do that? See DOC_SYMLINKS_DIR in make.conf (man page I think, or .example) -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] qmail spamming
Dear all, I'm using qmail with qmail-scanner. but i'm getting lots of mails from drug sites(drug advertiesment) to my users mail boxes. i have installed the spammassin. but still I'm getting such spam mail. please help me how I'm stop this spam mails. Thanks regards, -- Try to be a Buddhist..!!
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On 7/3/2007 7:01 PM Drew Tomlinson said the following: On 7/3/2007 6:36 PM Jerry McBride said the following: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 08:58:39 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 5:19 PM Jerry McBride said the following: On Tuesday 03 July 2007 07:55:40 pm Drew Tomlinson wrote: On 7/3/2007 9:36 AM James Ausmus said the following: On 7/3/07, Drew Tomlinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS485 [Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP] (EE) AIGLX: Screen 0 is not DRI capable I'm at a loss. Can some kind soul please point me in the right direction toward the steps needed to get 3D acceleration on my laptop? Should I be using x11 or ATI drivers? And if ATI drivers, any idea what is might be conflicting in my kernel? No conflict in your kernel - the taint message means that you have loaded a closed-source driver into your kernel - nothing to worry about (unless you are interested in running a completely free/libre system). Can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? Thank you for your posts. OK, I tried starting over again as when I wrote the above post, I wasn't trying to use the ati-driver. So I emerged ati-driver. However, when attempting to load the fglrx I get an Operation not permitted error (I remember this now). I am logged on as root. Please see this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by ndiswrapper 190528 0 arc42368 0 ecb 3328 0 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 0 pcmcia 32344 0 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic ieee80211_crypt 5504 1 ieee80211_crypt_wep i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Question: Is this a custom kernel build? If so, did you enable Yes. --- enable loadable module suppot -- module versioning support or -- source checksum for all modules I have these options: [*] Enable loadable module support [*] Module unloading [*] Forced module unloading [ ] Module versioning support (NEW) [ ] Source checksum for all modules (NEW) [*] Automatic kernel module loading If so, turn them both off and rebuild the kernel and try to load the fglrx module again... What happens is, your closed source, binary, module does not have the correct credentials for it to be installed... Thus the operation not permitted complaint... I just rebuilt the kernel again to be sure I really built it with those options. There was no change. See this output: tagalong ~ # lsmod Module Size Used by arc42368 2 ecb 3328 2 blkcipher 5316 1 ecb cryptomgr 2944 0 crypto_algapi 10432 3 arc4,ecb,cryptomgr ieee80211_crypt_wep 4864 1 ndiswrapper 190528 0 pcmcia 32344 0 bcm43xx 423008 0 ieee80211softmac 29248 1 bcm43xx ieee80211 29448 2 bcm43xx,ieee80211softmac ieee80211_crypt 5504 2 ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211 yenta_socket 24332 1 rsrc_nonstatic 10048 1 yenta_socket pcmcia_core34276 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic i2c_piix4 9036 0 i2c_core 18880 1 i2c_piix4 tagalong ~ # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/video/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Any other ideas? Thanks for your help. Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com The only thing to consider then is that your hardware is not supported by that driver... That may be true. I have been unable to confirm or deny that. Anyone else? I've done some more Googling. It would appear the Radeon Xpress 1100 is supported with ATI drivers. http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_14603_14624%5E14627,00.html Now, how to get the fglrx module to load?... -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] 3D Acceleration With Laptop - Radeon Xpress 1100 IGP
On 7/3/2007 7:14 PM Mark Knecht said the following: The only thing to consider then is that your hardware is not supported by that driver... That may be true. I have been unable to confirm or deny that. Anyone else? Thanks, Drew See if Michael can help you at the Phoronix forums: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/index.php He has been good at helping me with corner case issue on ATI drivers. Thanks. I'll try that. I also tried installing the ATI drivers directly from ATI's web site. Same issue. Can not load the resulting module. tagalong X11 # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.21-gentoo-r3/kernel/drivers/char/drm/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted Thanks, Drew -- Be a Great Magician! Visit The Alchemist's Warehouse http://www.alchemistswarehouse.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Lost KDE
070703 Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
I have been using KDE for a long long time.
Suddenly it's not there any more.
anything else just sends me back to (what I think is) kdm.
1183499736: ::: completed emerge (4 of 12) kde-base/kdebase-pam-7 to /
That looks the most likely suspect. It's very recent (see bug 183887).
I have version 6 : try restoring that see what happens
('emerge =kde-base/kdebase-pam-6').
You should also look in /etc/pam.d/ for further clues.
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Re: [gentoo-user] qmail spamming
Hi Gentoo, Wednesday, July 4, 2007, 7:02:41 AM, you wrote: Dear all, I'm using qmail with qmail-scanner. but i'm getting lots of mails from drug sites(drug advertiesment) to my users mail boxes. i have installed the spammassin. but still I'm getting such spam mail. please help me how I'm stop this spam mails. Thanks regards, Switch to Exim or Postfix. -- Sergey -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
