Re: [gentoo-user] experience thus far

2014-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I am not clear on one thing: is the corruption that you show above *because* of btrfs, or it would occur silently with any other fs, like e.g. ext4? That is something I'm curious about as well as I stumbled on this thread.

Re: [gentoo-user] btrfs and sparse VM image files

2014-05-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:01 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 19 May 2014 12:07:32 +0200, Marc Stürmer wrote: Just take a look at the official Gotchas Page of BTRFS, which can be found here: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas Putting virtual image files on

Re: [gentoo-user] btrfs only, without dracut

2014-05-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 3:04 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 17.05.2014 20:48, schrieb Greg Turner: But if you have it working now without any initramfs then obviously that is full of win (the LA kind, not the Redmond variety)! I wonder if there are any real advantages of

Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags and Updating

2014-05-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 10:10 PM, ny6...@gmail.com wrote: I run a script that syncs portage, updates @world, depcleans, revdep-rebuild and finally runs dispatch-conf -- about once weekly. Keeps my system in fine trim. :) This one is a gem - I forget where I saw it (likely planet, but maybe it

Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags and Updating

2014-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: I think nowadays one would prefer --keep-going, which automatically resumes on failure (and recomputes the dependency tree!), and prints a list of failed packages when it's finished. However its output is more verbose than just

Re: [gentoo-user] Organising btrfs subvolumes

2014-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Also how big is each snapshot of / and why are these necessary on an hourly basiszfs ? Btrfs is COW, so snapshots only consume space as files change. If you have a read-only filesystem and snapshot it hourly the only space

Re: [gentoo-user] Organising btrfs subvolumes

2014-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: I have zfs-snapshot making snapshots at 15 minute, hourly, daily, monthly and weekly intervals - and it cleans up after itself. There isn't anything quite like that for btrfs, so I'm knocking up a python script to take

Re: [gentoo-user] Organising btrfs subvolumes

2014-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 8:58 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 27.05.2014 14:12, schrieb Rich Freeman: There is snapper, which is even in the tree now. It isn't 100% flexible but supports any number of hourly, daily, monthly, and yearly snapshots, with retention policies

Re: [gentoo-user] Organising btrfs subvolumes

2014-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:09 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: I am still happily using LVM with snapshots. Those are instantaneous as well and I can then backup the snapshot, which on my server takes between 2 hours (incremental) and 3 weeks (full) When a snapshot is backed up, it

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups and snapshots [Was: Organising btrfs subvolumes]

2014-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:12 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:31:26 AM Rich Freeman wrote: btrfs wouldn't have any issues with this at all. You'd have an advantage in that you wouldn't have to unmount the filesystem to cleanly create the snapshot (which

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups and snapshots [Was: Organising btrfs subvolumes]

2014-05-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 11:21 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: Does anyone know how these will handle (and perform) with a possible 300+ snapshots per filesystem (or volume, as I think it's called)? I can't speak for zfs. I had upwards of 1000 snapshots on my system before I stopped

Re: [gentoo-user] Backups and snapshots [Was: Organising btrfs subvolumes]

2014-05-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:13 AM, Joost Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: app-backup/dar uses catalogues for the incrementals. I think I will stick to that for the foreseeable future. I used to use that and sarab (which is a wrapper). I moved on to duplicity. The problem with dar is that it

Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?

2014-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: You log in (or boot up), the system asks for a password/key or whatever, then unlocks the encryption used. The more common approach is to not prompt for a password/key, but instead store it in the TPM using a trusted

Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?

2014-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:56 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Mon, 02 Jun 2014 05:27:44 -0500, Dale wrote: The second option does sound what I am looking for. Basically, if I log out but leave my computer on, leave home, some crook/NSA type breaks in and tries to access

Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?

2014-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Now that is wicked. Like I said, this could get crazy. Meh. I don't encrypt my disks for desktops at home. My Chromebook comes encrypted out-of-the-box (no doubt the NSA can have it unlocked on request). If I had any other

Re: [gentoo-user] re: sys-power/upower-pm-utils

2014-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:30 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Tuesday, June 03, 2014 11:59:07 AM Alexander Kapshuk wrote: Just wanted to make sure I read the change logs shown below correctly. So far, I've been using sys-power/upower. Attempting to update sys-power/upower seems to

Re: [gentoo-user] re: sys-power/upower-pm-utils

2014-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:13 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: It is marked stable. Otherwise it wouldn't cause blockers because it attempts to force an installation of systemd. The issue isn't really that upower requires systemd so much as that portage can't figure out that it makes

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: And yes, as devs get lazier (decide to rely on systemd rather than build it to work independently of the init system), this will in fact result in *users* (read: those lacking the skills to code every program out there

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Samuli Suominen ssuomi...@gentoo.org wrote: On 05/06/14 03:22, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: This effected stable tree of Gentoo as well, pulling undesired different layout into stable is something that should have been avoided. It is about time we split the profiles,

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Greg Woodbury redwo...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, the advocates and implementers made some major political choices when they (apparently deliberately) chose to put the systemd stuff in /usr/lib instead of /lib. It was pointed out that this abrogated

Re: [gentoo-user] Demise of Truecrypt - surprised I haven't seen t his discussed here yet?

2014-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Frank Steinmetzger war...@gmx.de wrote: Now that’s an interesting idea I haven’t thought of yet. Thanks. My LUKS passphrase is much more secure than my ancient user password anyway *hehe*. Only if it isn't the same. :) In theory neither really need be

Re: [gentoo-user] Use Flags and Updating

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 3:54 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: I think nowadays one would prefer --keep-going, which automatically resumes on failure (and recomputes the dependency tree!), and prints a list of failed packages when it's finished. However its output is more verbose than just

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:46 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 06 Jun 2014 00:15:02 Peter Humphrey wrote: I bet you have quite a lot of systemd components lurking in the background though, ready to take over the world the next time you aren't looking :-) Ha! I can already

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Systemd upower

2014-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I am mostly happy with openrc and therefore have no reason to move to the systemd monoculture, unless gentoo falls in line with Debian et al. and leaves me no choice. I don't really see that happening anytime soon - it

Re: [gentoo-user] udev 208 to 212 update, 2 questions...

2014-06-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: Question 1: What if I am not using an empty (or single comment) /etc/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules? Does this mean I can ignore everything that follows (the comment really should open with that if so)? Yes

Re: Apologies - WAS: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

2014-06-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: First question: is there a decent guide to installing a gentoo system from scratch using systemd as the init system? I've done this a few times on VMs. Just follow the handbook, but skip steps about configuring

Re: [gentoo-user] qemu-kvm replacement

2014-06-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Heiko Zinke ma...@rabuju.com wrote: So if I sudo virsh edit vmname and substitute /usr/bin/qemu-kvm by /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -machine accel=kvm -enable-kvm I only get this error :( error: Cannot check QEMU binary /usr/bin/qemu-system-x86_64 -machine

Re: [gentoo-user] udev upgrade 208 212-r1, openrc USE flag changed to disabled?

2014-06-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Alon Bar-Lev alo...@gentoo.org wrote: And in addition add the following at make.conf, as it seems that we are enforced to have files we never use. Hate to break the news to you, but by your definition you're enforced to have thousands of files you never use on

Re: [gentoo-user] udev upgrade 208 212-r1, openrc USE flag changed to disabled?

2014-06-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 14, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is *always in the ebuild and Changelog. Sometimes it's on Google too, but that is unreliable. In general the stance is supposed to be that if it doesn't have a news item, it shouldn't be a high-impact

Re: [gentoo-user] Secure DNS servers

2014-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: The benefits of DNSSEC are debatable. We're moving the centralized trust from one group of scumbags (the CAs) to another group of scumbags (the registrars). So the benefits to authentication are not entirely clear-cut.

Re: [gentoo-user] webkit-gtk grumbles

2014-06-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: 140616 walt wrote: I'm sick of building webkit-gtk. My oldest machine (a dual-core AMD64) has been building webkit for 6 hours and still going. An entry in my home-made list of un/installed pkgs : 140322

Re: [gentoo-user] [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Thu, 19 Jun 2014 16:40:08 +0800, Amankwah wrote: Maybe the only solution is that move the portage tree to HDD?? Or tmpfs if you rarely reboot or have a fast enough connection to your preferred portage mirror. There

Re: [gentoo-user] update world problem (looks like slot confusion on my part)

2014-06-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: First thing: I understand why you want to go testing - stable, but at least leave portage unstable. A *lot* of ancient stuff has been fixed in ~arch, it's perfectly safe and robust, and most especially all that

Re: [gentoo-user] update world problem (looks like slot confusion on my part)

2014-06-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: The moral is always look for portage trying to downgrade packages and add the appropriate keyword entries when using this approach. The only issue with this is that you never get back to stable that way. What I usually

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: I found that fstrim can't work on f2fs file systems. I don't know whether discard works yet. Fstrim is to be preferred over discard in general. However, I suspect neither is needed for something like f2fs. Being

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: And while we are at it, I'd also like to mention bcache. Tho, conversion is not straight forward. However, I'm going to try that soon for my spinning rust btrfs. I contemplated that, but I'd really like to see btrfs

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: I don't see where you could lose the volume management features. You just add device on top of the bcache device after you initialized the raw device with a bcache superblock and attached it. The rest works the same, just

Re: [gentoo-user] Skype now will only work with pulseaudio?

2014-06-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: The skype website says that alsa is no longer supported without pulseaudio in their freshly cut Microsoft-owned code. Why is then the pulseaudio flag provided in portage, if without audio skype would lose its core

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/upower with systemd

2014-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: Well, in general, a user of software is to me somebody who actually uses it, and doesn't merely have it installed, doing nothing. So since you don't use it, you... don't use it ;) . It actually isn't a dumb question. Up

Re: [gentoo-user] backup hardware setup

2014-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 11:28 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...I am sure, whether I want btrfs. On the net I found for example this: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTY1MDU with sentences like: The Btrfs file-system changes for the Linux 3.15 kernel mostly deal with bug

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Re: [Gentoo-User] emerge --sync likely to kill SSD?

2014-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Kai Krakow hurikha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if multiple partitions can share the same cache device partition but more or less that's it: Initialize bcache, then attach your backing devices, then add those bcache devices to your btrfs. Ah, if you are

Re: [gentoo-user] backup hardware setup

2014-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: External drives have a much higher failure rate than internal drives. people don't expect them to fail or be dropped or accidentally plugged in in the wrong order and the wrong one to be mkfs'ed (until it does

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:55 AM, thegeezer thegee...@thegeezer.net wrote: On 06/25/2014 11:05 AM, Dale wrote: I got a drive picked out at Newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844 slightly offtopic - i notice that the drive has a 2year limited

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: thegeezer wrote: On 06/25/2014 08:49 AM, Dale wrote: thegeezer wrote: this says there are 104 pending sectors i.e. bad blocks on the drive that have not been reallocatd yet Wonder why it hasn't? Isn't it supposed to do

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 25 Jun 2014 08:33:37 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: Typically drives tend to die for me about a year after I buy them - alarmingly often, actually. Do you have a UPS? I used to get similar levels of failure

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:30 AM, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Is it not true that you cannot run raid on consumer drives because of timing errors? Yes, it is not true. :) I've never had issues running RAID on consumer drives. Sure, devices certified for RAID might spend less time trying

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm going to bet this drive is out of warranty. I'm pretty sure it is over 2 years since I bought it. Once I replace that drive, I'll dd the thing and see what it does then. It'll either break it or give me a fresh start to

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: so without looking that drive up - you are using a desktop part for non-stop setup? Honestly, I think it makes far more sense to build a fault-tolerant setup than to try to avoid faults by spending more on

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 25.06.2014 19:06, schrieb Rich Freeman: Honestly, I think it makes far more sense to build a fault-tolerant setup than to try to avoid faults by spending more on the parts. I've only run desktop hard

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Douglas J Hunley doug.hun...@gmail.com wrote: You're going to want to cron a 'scrub' and have it email you. There's no background daemon that I'm aware of to handle this. ZFS just introduced 'zed' and it would be nice if BTRFS would do the same Actually, I

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: What I really need to do, set up a RAID or some other backup method so that even if this happens again, I don't risk losing anything. Then again, that will take time as well. Also takes money. Keep in mind that RAID is more

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 10:07 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Rich Freeman wrote: I don't have anything on the cloud to backup too. That would likely be a good idea but I can't afford anything pricey, which is why I hadn't bought a backup drive before now either. Plus, something I'd

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 7:03 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I'm thinking of something tho. Btrfs. While I have a new drive with no file system on it, it's a good time to think on switching from LVM. Hmmm. I'm currently on gentoo-sources 3.14. I think btrfs is usable, but not

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: They _might_ block port 25 and require you to use SMTP/SSL on port 465. More likely, they would still allow an initial plaintext connection to port 25 and require use of the starttls command. Check with your ISP.

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 11:27 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: So, thoughts? Did it mark that part as bad and all is well or is this going to be trouble down the line? Should I just fill the thing up with data and test the stuffin out of it to make sure? That is pretty typical. You

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-06-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: What if I copied data to the drive until it was just about full. I'm thinking like maybe 90 or 95% or so. If I do that and run the test every few days, would it then catch a error after a few weeks or so of testing? I

Re: [gentoo-user] smartctrl drive error @60%

2014-07-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 2:09 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Tuesday, July 01, 2014 06:52:10 AM Mick wrote: What triggers a relocation? I also have a drive which shows a sector relocation pending, but for a few days now and after some tests that showed no errors, it won't

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel config little problem (rt61pci)

2014-07-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 10:04 AM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: As you can see at the image attached, I'm looking for my wireless driver (rt61pci). I can find it when I search using / on make menuconfig, but, it is not listed on wireless menu. On the same screen shot notice the line for

Re: [gentoo-user] How does ssh know to use pinentry?

2014-07-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 9:41 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: ssh is asking me for my passphrase using a terrible program called pinentry. It's terrible for a bunch of reasons, and if you are interested you can just google pinentry sucks. Probably more a case of X11

Re: [gentoo-user] How does ssh know to use pinentry?

2014-07-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:42 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: In any case, I suspect that gpg-agent is actually serving passwords to openssh, so the file you want is ~/.gnupg/gpg-agent.conf - it probably

Re: [gentoo-user] How does ssh know to use pinentry?

2014-07-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:40 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: On another note, from my OP, I am still curious how the ssh software knows to use /usr/bin/pinentry to fetch my passphrase. In a follow-up post, I discovered that this mechanism only works if an environment

Re: [gentoo-user] How does ssh know to use pinentry?

2014-07-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: GPG_AGENT_INFO tells ssh to use gpg-agent. Are you saying that the ssh software checks for the presence of the GPG_AGENT_INFO environment

Re: [gentoo-user] Local portage ebuilds

2014-07-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Michael Orlitzky m...@gentoo.org wrote: For bonus points, you can publish your overlay on e.g. github to get a better feel for what it's like committing to the tree. If only... :) Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 6:55 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: Is ECC memory a drop-in replacement for ordinary RAM, or does it need a special motherboard? It requires both CPU and motherboard support I believe. The RAM itself isn't much more expensive - really just reflecting the cost of the

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: resolv.conf is different after every reboot

2014-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 12:33 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I set my nameservers all manually in this file and they do not every change. I do not run systemd. I'm not sure of your issue(s) but, historically, resolv.conf should not be displaying this behavior. FWIW, systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] re: which NTPd package to use?

2014-07-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Douglas J Hunley doug.hun...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 5:05 AM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: Which NTPd package would the list recommend using, ntp, openntpd, or some other package? openntpd seems to be easier to set

Re: [gentoo-user] a question about updating process

2014-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 6:52 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: well chromium was just an example. I just think that when there is a version upgrade, a patch should be enough. For things like backports you're fairly likely to only get a patch. However, for an upstream version

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ECC-ram, it is worth it.

2014-07-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: pretty easy actually. When I looked for ECC support, ALL Asus boards supported it officially - and a whole bunch of Gigabyte boards according to their forums. Interesting, the Gigabyte board I'm using

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hello list, I run a couple of chroots on this box to build packages for other boxes on the LAN. So far, I haven't worked out what I should populate /etc/mtab with in each chroot. Is it enough to grep ext4 /etc/mtab

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: And just for completeness, systemd actually requires /etc/mtab as a link to /proc/self/mounts, so don't be surprised if software in the future in Linux just assumes that. Part of the reason for this is namespace

Re: [gentoo-user] What to put in chroot mtab

2014-08-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 11:29 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: I wouldn't like to be the one who has to write a new installation handbook for systemd-only systems! :) We'll need to rewrote the

Re: [gentoo-user] unclear (to me) errors from portage

2014-08-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:23 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: I notice a few perl blockers. You could try the following: # emerge -vuD1 $(qlist -IC 'virtual/perl-*') # perl-cleaner --all -v -- -v And then retry to update world. I've been encountering some perl blockages myself,

Re: [gentoo-user] sysV/openrc init script vs. systemd .service file

2014-08-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Any advice on whether it would be easier to use a common init script with sysV/OpenRC/systemd or to write a separate .service file? I'd almost certainly generate a proper unit, and not try to use a compatibility

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: It appears the recent mysql update broke quite a few things, my MythTV fronted started sulking while the backend just sucked up all the CPU cycles. Something else broke too, but I can't remember more than two things these

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sysV/openrc init script vs. systemd .service file

2014-08-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks much for the advice. Np. One other thing is that anybody using journald would probably appreciate logging to stdout. Forking with a PIDfile is actually a preferred mode of operation, since then you know it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: akonadi ... don't you just love it?

2014-08-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/12/2014 12:31 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: Yes, I think it was dev-qt/qtsql that broke MythTV. I notice that dev-python/mysql-python was rebuilt at the same time, so that must have been missed too, whereas

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: distfiles contains extra files?

2014-08-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk wrote: On Wednesday 13 August 2014 21:27:47 James wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: Any other idiotic ideas? Hey, JUST GO FUCK OFF! If you cannot respondd in a cilized form, then PLEASE

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 12:13 PM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: So can you please tell me why you have chosen a specific DE and not the other options ? So, this is more why I'm using KDE and not so much why I'm not using something else. Things I like about KDE: 1. Handles USB

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 17 Aug 2014 15:56:05 Alan McKinnon wrote: On 17/08/2014 15:28, Rich Freeman wrote: 6. That dolphin mode that gives you a shell that follows the pwd. That is just nifty. #6 - it does? How do I activate

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 6:04 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 18 Aug 2014 09:20:17 Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 17 August 2014 23:09:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: Take kparts and kioslaves. KDE treats as much as possible as some sort of plugin that all KDE apps can share.

Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: I understand that Google offers two factor authentication (https://www.google.com/landing/2step/#tab=how-it-works) for its services, but if you have not signed up for it you only need a single google account passwd to

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 10:31 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: I wouldn't use Hadoop for storage of files. It's only useful if you have a lot (and I do mean a LOT) of data where a query only returns a very small amount. Not to mention a lot of data in a small number of files. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Changing glibc

2014-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: In cases like that I would do either of the following: 1) Run it inside a VM 2) run it inside a chroot That way you can easily keep everything updated except for that application. Or better still run it inside a

Re: [gentoo-user] Clusters on Gentoo ?

2014-08-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 5:34 AM, J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org wrote: On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:53:51 AM Alec Ten Harmsel wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 10:50:23 AM EDT, Rich Freeman wrote: Hadoop is a very specialized tool. It does what it does very well, but if you want to use

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --config

2014-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Bill Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: Hi, I am building some VM's using scripts and want to run emerge --config mariadb automaticly. However it asks for a new root password (entered twice) as part of the process - I was going to make an expect

Re: [gentoo-user] accidentally deleted the /usr (I'm gonna kill myself!)

2014-08-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 7:52 AM, behrouz khosravi bz.khosr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: and now you know why you should have added --buildpkg to your default emerge options. Yeah, I am happy that I did it. I

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD recmmendation / input

2014-08-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 12:54 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: No, I wouldn't get 1TB SSD too expensive but something like 300GB I might consider it. Are they worth the investment? What brand do you have and how long? SSDs improve performance significantly, but as you point out they are

Re: [gentoo-user] openrc and sysvinit init script

2014-09-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 6:55 AM, ma...@nucleus.it wrote: Hi , i know that maybe this question was asked many many times :) . Openrc has a compatibility for run, add/delete to runlevel etc , sysvinit init script or i have to rewrite the scripts or maybe use a wrapper ? Sysvinit scripts are

Re: [gentoo-user] new installation - partitions

2014-09-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: My BIOS boot partition is 1MB not 1GB. My /boot partition is 1GB to allow room for a couple of System Rescue CD ISO images. There are a few types of boot partitions these days. One is used when booting GPT from legacy

Re: [gentoo-user] SSD discard / fstrim

2014-09-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Сергей protsero...@gmail.com wrote: You need to run Fstrim if you mounted your partition WITHOUT discard option and did lots of changes. For example, if you installed your system without discard, do fstrim and then add discard to /etc/fstab. Just a note that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Both are rolling distros. Both can be build up from sources, although Arch makes the binary install path the default for its (new) users, as well as recovery of binaries that get deleted or become corrupted. Arch doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] installed Gentoo on SSD - no bootable device

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: ls -al /boot/ total 8671 drwxr-xr-x 4 root root1024 Sep 4 14:29 . drwxr-xr-x 21 root root4096 Sep 4 16:51 .. -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 94478 Sep 4 11:41 config-3.14.14-gentoo drwxr-xr-x 6 root root1024 Sep 4

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:04 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes: On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 8:23 AM, James wireless at tampabay.rr.com wrote: Bottom line is that it is hard to measure Gentoo popularity. I've been using Gentoo since the early 2000s

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new installation - partitions

2014-09-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: What changed with our docs? Most likely a deep change in doc-team personnel, but I don;t know for sure. Some of it is probably the docs team. Some of it was that we were very slow to switch to a Wiki, which makes

Re: [gentoo-user] oracle-jdk-bin 1.8.0.20 ebuild

2014-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 12:50 AM, Saifi Khan saifik...@datasynergy.org wrote: It looks like sping already bumped 1.8.0.20 in the tree, by simply renaming the existing 1.8.0.11 ebuild. I'll explain a bit more since you're interested and are simply not doing it right... Here are things i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS is the most resilient filesystem I've ever used, you can through the bucket and kitchen sink at it and it really doesn't give a shit (it just deals with it :-) ) Nothing wrong with ZFS itself, but keep in mind

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/09/2014 15:13, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: ZFS is the most resilient filesystem I've ever used, you can through the bucket and kitchen

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: MBR partition

2014-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Kerin Millar kerfra...@fastmail.co.uk wrote: From reading the XFS list and my own experience, I have formed the opinion that the maintainers are more stringent in matters of QA and regression testing and more mature in matters of public debate. That doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] post build files

2014-09-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:20 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I'm rather new to hacking ebuilds. I have read most every doc I can find on the subject. One thing I'm looking for is a post-build document that shows me the path/name of everything built. If you literally want a list of

Re: [gentoo-user] Eapi 6 ?

2014-09-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 2:30 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: So, since I'm only hacking at ebuilds for my own needs (currently not able to produce anything that is not embarrashing) can I start building ebuilds that use EAPI-6? I understand that it is not finalized yet. But, if the

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